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Speaker 1: It's that steps up throws deep. Vindle picked off Peterson

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Speaker 1: It's twenty eight future free agents for the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: at least going into the offseason. That's Patrick Peterson. You're

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Speaker 1: the interception against Buffalo one of three this season. But

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Speaker 1: Think about a total attendance last year, because of the

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Speaker 1: news on that today. And because our hashtag Ron Wolfley

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Speaker 1: bring on Kyle outor guard because when it comes in

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Speaker 1: of the numbers, we bring in Kyle Cardinals insider. We

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Speaker 1: say good evening to Kyle and we ask him to

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Speaker 1: break it down and Kyle, what was the headline today

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Speaker 1: when it comes to this salary cap. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: That is a big deal. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: What do you think it's gonna do just big picture overall,

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Speaker 1: a breakdown and what Chase Edmonds tweeted out this week

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Speaker 1: Here's Michael Bidwell. We've got to cram a lot more

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Paul, he's twenty six, he's a double

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Speaker 1: digit SAT guy. Hey, we're going to invest in somebody

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Speaker 1: like that with such high upside. I really think fit

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Speaker 1: is going to determine where these free agent guys are

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Speaker 1: going to go the vast majority of free agents. State

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Speaker 1: tax needs to be considered on this one. The city

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Speaker 1: in which they play, right, the weather, the fan base,

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Speaker 1: the school system, the coach, and the fit of his

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Speaker 1: offense or defense. I think fit is going to be

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Speaker 1: absolutely huge and a lot of these one year deals

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Speaker 1: that are going to be signed and Wolf, you know,

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Speaker 1: Michael Bigball. That is part of his pitch. He cites

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Speaker 1: everything you just threw out there, including Arizona state tax structure, yes,

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Speaker 1: which is much more enticing and favorable than most states

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Speaker 1: around the country save Florida or Nevada something like that.

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Speaker 1: So yes, that is most definitely part of the recruiting pitch.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue with a big red rage Kyler Guard. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into Larry his future and more. It is the

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Speaker 1: big red rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert. We are

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Speaker 1: Satanford staff to Murray and he's gonna keep it off

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Speaker 1: the left side. He's at the ten half. The five

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Speaker 1: Pie's in again. Tyler Murray into double figures, the rushing

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Speaker 1: punch down town of the season, the Cardinals half the league.

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Speaker 1: So more Murray magic that State Farm Stadium. He's got

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Speaker 1: a fire in his value. We've all seen it, a

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Speaker 1: competitive spirit where he wants to win and he wants

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Speaker 1: to win now. And I love that. That's what I

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Speaker 1: want and that's what I expect, and that's what he expects.

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Speaker 1: Steve Owner Michael Bidwell this morning with wolf By ninety

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Speaker 1: eight seven FM Arizona Sports, talking about Kyler Murray going

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Speaker 1: into year three. Can he take that big step like oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Josh Allen did with the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: this year Baker Mayfield did with the Cleveland Browns, both

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Speaker 1: leading their teams into the postseason. We know two words

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Speaker 1: we all love to hear when it comes to your

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Speaker 1: quarterback Pro Bowl. Maybe the only two words better when

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Speaker 1: it comes to your starting quarterback rookie contract. And so

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Speaker 1: that's the situation right now with Kyler Murray. It is

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Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert

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Speaker 1: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley Cardinals insider Kyle outer Guard and

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Speaker 1: you know, Kyle, why don't you answer that question that

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Speaker 1: was put by Doug and Wolf this morning to Michael Bidwell,

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Speaker 1: what is the next step in your mind for Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray in year three? Yeah, I think that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: show a natural progression quarterbacks usually due from their first

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Speaker 1: season to their second to their third. And my big

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Speaker 1: question is can he take that truly big jump where

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Speaker 1: he becomes an elite quarterback because I think he was

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Speaker 1: close in twenty twenty and there were certainly games where

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Speaker 1: he looked like a superstar, but it apped and flowed.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't super consistent all the way through the year.

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Speaker 1: So I do think if he reaches it. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's the passing game where they get that intermediate efficiency going.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got the deep ball. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a really accurate guy with good arm strength. But reading

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Speaker 1: the field and just knowing exactly where to go with

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Speaker 1: the football in rhythm, to me is the most important thing.

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Speaker 1: I think if he gets there, like watch out for him,

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Speaker 1: because we know what he can do with his legs.

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Speaker 1: We know all the talent if it all comes together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the salary cap and bringing in free

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Speaker 1: agents and all that, but if you have a superstar quarterback,

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Speaker 1: your team is going to be a winner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you need the supporting cast, but those guys are so

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Speaker 1: valuable that if he gets there, the Cardinals are going

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Speaker 1: to be really good next season Kyle hopefully, And this

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Speaker 1: is something that I hope. Of course, he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to run the ball for him to be successful. And

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Speaker 1: when I say that, I'm talking about you don't have

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Speaker 1: to have called runs for the Arizona Cardinals offense to

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Speaker 1: be successful, called Kyler Murray run, so to speak. Here,

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Speaker 1: what's your take on that? I mean, I get it,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like for this offense to really go

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Speaker 1: at full tilt, I think that has to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. And I feel like when the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: were at their best the last two seasons, that threat

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Speaker 1: was there and sometimes it was eighty yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Other games maybe it was only thirty five, but teams

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Speaker 1: had to watch for it. So I do feel like

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Speaker 1: they're built like the Ravens, where Kyler Murray can run it,

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds or whoever else is going to be in

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Speaker 1: the backfield can run it and then they can throw.

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Speaker 1: But I think his mobility is so special that to me,

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Speaker 1: I like seeing it. And I get what you're saying

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Speaker 1: because you don't want him to take hits and you

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Speaker 1: don't want him to wear down. You want to have

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Speaker 1: a nice, long career. But I feel like he's so

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Speaker 1: dynamic on the ground that I would still make it

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Speaker 1: a big part of the office. You know, it's interesting, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: because so much of the time as well, when you

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Speaker 1: run that zone or you run an RPO, the defense

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Speaker 1: suddenly can dictate to the offense what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: You can, hey, listen, if you want Kyler Murray, just

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Speaker 1: by way of example, if you want Kyler Murray running

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Speaker 1: the ball because you want to take shots at him,

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Speaker 1: you know how to make that happen. On those zone reads.

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Speaker 1: Just go ahead and collapse the end man on the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. He's gonna run the ball. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to make a tackle on Kyler Murray. So,

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Speaker 1: to me, I don't like the fact that we're typically historically,

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Speaker 1: traditionally you've got the offense dictating to the defense what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. Because you have the initiative when you

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Speaker 1: start running a lot of RPOs and zone reads. Now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the defense can dictate to the

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Speaker 1: offense what it is that you're going to do with

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Speaker 1: the football, and that, to me, I think is something

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Speaker 1: that may have made them a little bit more predictable

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. That's just my thought

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Speaker 1: on that. Hey, that's a great point, and I think

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Speaker 1: it plays into what we heard a lot of the

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Speaker 1: last month and half of the season was adjust to

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Speaker 1: the adjustment. The Cardinals offense needs to adapt to what

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Speaker 1: defenses we're doing. Sam Acho cited it a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, remember Wolf right here on this show, and

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Speaker 1: he said what Seattle started doing and what the Belichick

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Speaker 1: disciples and Bill Belichick himself did against Kyler Murray was

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Speaker 1: problematic and in his opinion, watching a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals games this year, former edge guy sam Acho said

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Speaker 1: that he believes the big step next step for Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray is to grow in reading defenses and he's got

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Speaker 1: to run the ball. There's no doubt about a guy.

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Speaker 1: He does have to run the ball because he's just

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Speaker 1: too good at it is. He's just too good to

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Speaker 1: take that away. I'm not saying take that away. I

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Speaker 1: just think they've got to come up with different ways

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Speaker 1: to make their offense a little bit less predictable. Or

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Speaker 1: as Rob Frederickson said last week, Kyle and we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this, maybe Kyler Murray under center a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: some of the bootlegs, the play action, it opens up

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Speaker 1: the downhill running game with it, Kenyan Drake or whomever.

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Speaker 1: You know. Maybe it's just an adjustment like that to

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Speaker 1: this offense. Yeah, I agree with you, guys, And well,

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Speaker 1: that's a great point. I think that the zone reads

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Speaker 1: certainly lost its luster about halfway through the season, and

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Speaker 1: they do have to figure out a way to either

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Speaker 1: get that going again or to adjust and use other things.

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens run game is very varied and

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Speaker 1: they do a lot of different things. Some of its

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Speaker 1: zone read, but there's plenty of other things that they

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Speaker 1: don't use the zone reads. So I think you do

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Speaker 1: want to have a bread and butter, but to be

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Speaker 1: able to adjust if teams are playing you a certain way.

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Speaker 1: Like Paul said once, Bill Belichick and his Disciples did

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Speaker 1: it a certain way. The Cardinals run game wasn't as effective,

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Speaker 1: so they should have a good running game. When you

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Speaker 1: have Kyler Murray with the ball and taking away a

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Speaker 1: defender every single time just because of the way it

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Speaker 1: counts in the box, you should be able to run

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Speaker 1: the ball naturally with your running back. So I think

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Speaker 1: they need to get that going again and then hope

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Speaker 1: that the passing game also takes other step well. This morning,

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Speaker 1: Wolf on ninety eight seven FM arazon A Sports You

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Speaker 1: asked the owner Michael Bidwell, what he wants to see

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Speaker 1: from Kyler in two twenty one. I want to see

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Speaker 1: the next jump. I think we all want to see

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Speaker 1: the next jump. He made a big step forward between

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Speaker 1: his working year and his second year. You know, we

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Speaker 1: really want to see that next level, and hopefully that's

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Speaker 1: going to come in the off season if we're able

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Speaker 1: to get together and really see that the development in

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Speaker 1: the connection with his receiver group and doing some of

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Speaker 1: the work that they hopefully will be doing on the

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Speaker 1: field at the training facility with a more normalized OTA

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Speaker 1: and offseason later in the spring when when the vaccinations

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Speaker 1: are out more broadly, how much of his improvement guys.

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Speaker 1: Do you think is dependent on the players around him,

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Speaker 1: finding that reliable, dynamic number two receiver for defying the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. We know Kylie already tweeted in favor of

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Speaker 1: going with offensive line in the first round in the draft,

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Speaker 1: So maybe a little glimpse into what Kyler's thinking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think from a personal standpoint, it can

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Speaker 1: be upgraded, and I think it will be upgraded. I

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Speaker 1: feel like years three of Kyler Murray. Like you said earlier, Paul,

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Speaker 1: he's on his rookie contract. You want to take advantage

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Speaker 1: of it right now. And you already went and got

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. But there wasn't that consistent number two wide

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Speaker 1: receiver last season, and I think that was a big

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Speaker 1: miss or they didn't have that guy to go to.

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Speaker 1: I thought it might be Christian Kirk, but it didn't

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Speaker 1: quite happen, especially down the stretch. So do you feel

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Speaker 1: like that on your roster or do you need to

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Speaker 1: find somebody? And I would not be surprised if they

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Speaker 1: added a number two wide receiver somehow, some way this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I do think that's important. I think you want to

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Speaker 1: surround him with as much talent as you possibly can

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Speaker 1: these next two seasons and see if he can reach

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Speaker 1: that level like a Josh Allen did, where you go

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Speaker 1: from a good quarterback to one in the end. Kyle,

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Speaker 1: are you there? Did we lose you? Kyle? Oh? Yeah, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we got youa Kyle. What can you tell us in

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Speaker 1: regard to Sean Jefferson. I'm very very interested. I know

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Speaker 1: you're very very close to the team here. What are

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Speaker 1: you hearing about Sean Jefferson, the new wide receiver coach

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Yeah, it was fun talking to him

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and I think he's important

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Speaker 1: because you've got young guys like Christian Kirk and Andy

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Speaker 1: Isabella and Keishawn Johnson, and if he can do a

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Speaker 1: good job of bringing those guys along, I think that

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Speaker 1: could mean something for this group where DeAndre Hopkins is

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Speaker 1: your star, but I think you need those other guys

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Speaker 1: to step up. And we'll see what he can do

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Speaker 1: and how much he's able to be around them this

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Speaker 1: off season. But if he can help those guys out,

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Speaker 1: give them some little tricks of the trade, maybe they

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Speaker 1: can't get that passing game to the next level. You know, well,

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Speaker 1: me and you over what the last two decades. We

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Speaker 1: agree on very little. I mean, me and you, we

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Speaker 1: don't see eye Molly Sports or beyond. You know, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Outergard is a close second. I mean this guy on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground podcast, we agree on nothing, and then you

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Speaker 1: got Darren Herby and glowing some of my points out

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Speaker 1: of the water with his fact checking. It's just it's brutal.

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Speaker 1: It's a brutal kind of slug every single week on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. And we disagreed on Seaun Jefferson the following

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Speaker 1: what's most important? Why was he hired? And Kylee with

641
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella? Okay, but you know what, I think it's

642
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: just as every bit as much as Christian Kirk because

643
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: he's going into a contract year and you got to

644
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: figure out is he a number two receiver or not?

645
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: And if he isn't a number two receiver, you're not

646
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna pay him to be a number three receiver. Yeah,

647
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: that's a great point, it really is. But honestly, does

648
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: it always have to be in either or? Guys? Doesn't

649
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: have to be an either or can it not be both?

650
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: You know? For me, I think you could build a case.

651
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Christian Kirk and his disappearance

652
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. That is a mystery, Kyle,

653
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that right there? Yeah, I mean,

654
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly why it went from so good

655
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: that stretch of games and then you know, really fell

656
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: off pretty badly. And I'm not sure exactly why. I

657
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: think the passing game wasn't great overall down the stretch.

658
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if Christian Kirk, at his height and

659
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: not being that super elite speed guy, if he does

660
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: make more sense in the slot, if you can get

661
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: him in there. And obviously that depends on Larry Fitzgerald

662
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: and what he decides to do. But I'm intrigued if

663
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: they can put Christian Kirk in the slot what he

664
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: can do, because I think his skill set might fit

665
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: better there. He did it in college. And we'll see

666
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: what happens in twenty twenty one if it's even an opportunity.

667
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: But if he gets into the slot, I think Christian

668
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: Kirk might be able to blossom. All right. Well, I mean,

669
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Speaker 1: Kyle didn't give us a hot take like Dan Roloski

670
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: today on ESPN. You guys here, Dan Roloski earlier today

671
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: on the Carson Wentz trade to Indy. He said that

672
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: now that he's reunited with Frank Reich and he's on

673
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: the Colts, he's firmly back in the MVP consideration. He'll

674
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: be a factor in the MVP right soon to which

675
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: everybody pretty much lost their mind, both in studio and

676
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: on the internet. So you know, Kyle, get ready, I'm

677
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a hot take for you on Cardinals Underground

678
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: next week because I know you're dying to blow anything

679
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: and everything I say out of the water. Now I'm

680
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: gonna have to pump up my game next time and

681
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: come up with the fire. That's right, Kyle. Thank you.

682
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: Thanks for the insight and the numbers in particular because

683
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: once again our hashtag around here is nomad. Thanks Kyle,

684
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: love your stuff. Kyle, Thank you brother. Thanks guys, appreciate it.

685
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: There you go. You know, if you're want to talk numbers,

686
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: the next gen stats, just hit up Kyle on Twitter.

687
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: We continue with a big Red Rage present of my

688
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: Santan Ford in Gilbert trips left single receiver right second

689
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: ago in the fifteen snapped to Murray, play action pass

690
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: Murray and Trouble on the pocket rolls to the left

691
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: now throws left side of the end zone, and oh

692
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: my goodness, Larry Fitzgerrold caught it for a touchdown, his

693
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: first touchdown of the year. And it's been fens falling backwards,

694
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: the defender screening and he probably can't even see the

695
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: ball until it hits him his hands and the Cardinals

696
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: get a touch. Larry Fitzgerald, don't know how many more

697
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: times we're gonna get to watch him here at State

698
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Barn Stadium. Take every one of those in That is

699
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: the question yet again, another offseason where that is the question, Larry,

700
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: to be or not to be an Arizona Cardinal this

701
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: next season as that answer hangs in the balance. It

702
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: is the Big Red Race presented by Santan Ford and

703
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Gilbert We are Satan for Paul calvc Ron Wolfley Special

704
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: thanks to Kylo to guard wolf as a guy who's

705
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: been tackled at least twice by Larry Fitzgerald. You know,

706
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: what can you tell us? Come on now, what kind

707
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: of please? You've been wrong every off season pretty much,

708
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: but I still ask you the question even though you've

709
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: been wrong every offseason, right Polly, listen to honestly? You know,

710
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: I you know a lot more about this than I do.

711
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: You're laughing as you ask me that question, because you know,

712
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: nobody talks to me whatsoever. Nobody tells me anything. My

713
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: gut tells me. The longer it goes, the better the

714
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: odds he comes back. I agree with that, you do.

715
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I think remember what Antoine

716
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Bethey told us here recently on the Big Red Rage.

717
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: When you're trying to figure out if you're gonna play

718
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: an eighteenth season, and this is bithet now, someone who

719
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: played fourteen seasons. It's not September through January, because on

720
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: a week to week basis, you can get up for

721
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: games and the adrenaline and the work's already in this

722
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: season started. It's February through August. Yeah, it's it's the

723
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: mental grind of Okay, I gotta stay in shape. I

724
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: gotta get an even better shape because I'm even older.

725
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: It's the OTAs. It's gonna be all these zoom meetings.

726
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be training camp. I mean, well, if you

727
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: played a decade in the NFL, can you relate to that? Yeah? No,

728
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: I can relate to that, Polly, Yeah, I just I

729
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: feel like the longer it goes, And the reason why

730
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: I feel this way, Polly, the longer it goes, the

731
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: better the odds it tells me he might be conflicted.

732
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: I think we all looked at Larry Fitzgerald last year

733
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: and saw him play in his seventeenth season, saw the

734
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: injuries that he dealt with, right he had the COVID

735
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: situation as well. We saw what happened to Larry, the

736
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: dip in productivity. I think that has a lot to

737
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: do with it as well. But it tells me that

738
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: he's conflicted about walking away under those auspices. And I

739
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: know what that feels like, Paul, because I did that

740
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: in year nine. I sat out after nine years in

741
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. I sat out with a bad back. And

742
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: now listen, Bally, I'm not comparing myself to the legend,

743
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: all right, that is Larry Fitzgerald. I'm not, but I

744
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: know what it's like. I wanted to say goodbye to

745
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: the game on my terms, not sitting out with a

746
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: bad back. So I came back for that tenth year

747
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five. I wanted to come back and

748
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: be able to say I'm wondering if Larry feels the

749
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: same way, knowing how this joined it last season was

750
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: for him if he doesn't want to go out that way. Okay,

751
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: So once again to confirm you have not spoken with

752
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: Larry Fisher. I have not. Okay, Let's let's hear from

753
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: someone who has. Because owner Michael Biddwell this Morning with

754
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: You and Doug on Newsmaker's Week of ninety eight seven

755
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: FM Arizona Sports had this update on fits. Let's just

756
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: be patient. There are a lot of things that Larry's

757
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: thinking about. And I did get a chance to speak

758
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: with him on the way back from the super Bowl.

759
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: We rode back to Phoenix together and had a long discussion.

760
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: Didn't ask him a single question about this, and it

761
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: scause you know, you just want to let him take

762
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: his time, be patient, and I hope we're able to

763
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: see him in our uniform coming back this year. It's

764
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting year. We certainly in

765
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: this offseason. Could the wait, this is me surmising now,

766
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: Could the wait be related to a business decision? Could

767
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: there be a business component this? Perhaps Larry has been

768
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: waiting for the news we got today. What the sour

769
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: clap floor? What could it be? What will I earn

770
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: as a guy who's earned his jersey number in millions

771
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: each of the last several years, eleven million per Yeah,

772
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: what sort of haircut is Larry gonna have to take financially?

773
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: Maybe he needs or wants an answer to that question. Yeah, Polly,

774
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: that is that's a good question to answer or have answered.

775
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: But I can just say once again, I think overall,

776
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: it's got a lot to do with his productivity and

777
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, Larry, he's being gone the productivity and wanting

778
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: to go out there. And as long as he's productive,

779
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: why wouldn't Larry go out there if he's healthy and

780
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: he's feeling good. Last year it was not that case.

781
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why I think the longer

782
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: it goes on, Polly, he's conflicted. I think he's conflicted

783
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: because maybe he does want to come back and play,

784
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: and we're gonna all find out, we're gonna have a

785
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: front row seat. But man, I hope he does. I

786
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: hope he comes back and gets that eighteenth season in

787
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: and you know what, gets that ten minute standing ovation

788
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: from the Red Sea. Yes, I mean, he just there's

789
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: something about Larry going out without fans being able to

790
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: salute him in person at State Farm Stadium. That just

791
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right, doesn't. No, it doesn't. But you know, Paulie,

792
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter to him. He doesn't look for

793
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: those moments the way we do. It's true, we're the

794
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: ones who probably want the standing ovation for Larry right right.

795
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Not him. He's gonna sweet it out on a Friday

796
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I'll try to make it

797
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: as as least announcement and then walk on the Great

798
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: Wall of China the next day. I do have a

799
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: theory on Larry that I haven't shared yet. We'll get

800
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: to that next. To wrap up this edition of the

801
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Big Red Race presented by Santan four King Gilbert. You

802
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: know there's gonna be a size much shift here. You know,

803
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: we've already started to see it with veterans are going

804
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: to be cut around the league, and so when you

805
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: think about what's going to happen going forward, we're gonna

806
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: be able to improve this team. They're gonna be other

807
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: teams that are going to be moving around because they're

808
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna lose talent. And I'm very bullish on twenty twenty

809
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: one for both Cliff and for Steve. That's intriguing, isn't it?

810
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: That actually plays in what we mentioned earlier, and that's

811
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: team owner Michael Vidwan went Doug and Wolf this morning

812
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: at ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports as we wrap

813
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: up this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by

814
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert. That that does tie into what

815
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds had tweeted about earlier this week where he

816
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: said there's going to be a lot of really good

817
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: players taking one year rentals. Free agency is going to

818
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: be wild. According to Chase Edmonds via Twitter and Wolf,

819
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: this is my theory on Larry. Okay, does anybody have

820
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: a bigger and better Rolodex contact list in his phone?

821
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Then Larry Fitzgerald in an NFL locker room right now,

822
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: we would you say Warren Buffett is a big name

823
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: out there pubs. Remember on The Big Red Rage right

824
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: here on this show two years ago, he was talking

825
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: about how he gets text messages from Tiger Woods and

826
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: brock Obama, Right, I mean, you know, right, and so hey,

827
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: if that is the case, Larry needs to come back

828
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: and pull a Lebron and just start recruiting guys, you know,

829
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: come here in a one year rental. You can enjoy

830
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: the weather and the natural grass estate Farm Stadium. You

831
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: can even come over to my place in PV and

832
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: hang out, you know, I mean, just that would be

833
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: a great scenario and game plan, would it not. No,

834
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: You're You're right on it, Bullie. Honestly, you need that

835
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: superstar effect, that impact to recruit him today's free agency.

836
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: I would love Corey Linsley honestly, right now if the

837
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals targeted the center from the Green Bay Packers.

838
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: A guy that's played seven years in the league, He's

839
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old. He still has a lot of

840
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: value going forward. Right now. I don't know exactly what

841
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: the market is going to be for him, but Corey

842
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: Linsley to me, is a guy that I would love

843
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: that if the Arizona Cardinals targeted him, especially, experience is

844
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: so vital at that position as the quarterback of the

845
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: old line. Right just solidified because well, you answer basically

846
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: my question. I was gonna say, you know, mock drafts,

847
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: have the Cardinals taken anything from you know, I mean

848
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: cornered a wide receiver, O line edge running back. But

849
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: in terms of position of need and free agency, you're

850
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: thinking center, any other position that stands oh. I would

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna take the best player available at those needs.

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Speaker 1: At number sixteen. As we started with the Mars Rover

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