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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am Ryan Warmley, joining this Friday Morning. This Glorious Victorious

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Speaker 1: Friday Morning by Derek Brihydam Pat fitzimorious Fellas. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing after witnessing just an excellent quarterback battle on

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, which has been more common than usual

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Speaker 1: this season, Debra.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I mean Jamar Chase winning people weeks,

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Speaker 2: proving that you know, he's outside of the contract stuff.

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Speaker 2: Should have been a top top two wide receiver one

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Speaker 2: overall for some. So it was. It was a glorious game, dude,

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Speaker 2: that that moment. And I know, you know, all props

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Speaker 2: like I'm all for the trash talk like don't flag

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Speaker 2: the guys, let him go out there and play, let

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Speaker 2: him have fun. And I was all for the smoke

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Speaker 2: that Jamar Chase gave back to Lamar Jackson after kind

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Speaker 2: of standing there throwing the ball into the stands and

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Speaker 2: Chase standing on like the one yard line for five seconds.

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Speaker 2: I was loving every second of it. And I know

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Speaker 2: a not a lot of people will. I loved every

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Speaker 2: moment of it, so.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was weird. As a response to Lamar

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Speaker 1: because I didn't think Lamar did anything that unusual, Like

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm just used to watching Lamar he does that

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Speaker 1: a lot. But having said that, even if Lamar had

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Speaker 1: done nothing, which I kind of think he did, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have minded Jamar Chase doing that. You just on

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Speaker 1: an all time heater, like do whatever you want, like

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Speaker 1: if you're not hurting other players, like I encourage taunting,

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Speaker 1: like I even when it goes against the Ravens, like

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Speaker 1: I'm super you Like, I know, b that's sports.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Like I used to smack talk all the time

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Speaker 2: when I was growing up playing sports.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fits, What was your big takeaway from the game?

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Speaker 1: I mean just obviously the second time we've seen these

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Speaker 1: teams go against each other, two of the best games

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Speaker 1: of the NFL season so far, and just fantasy points galore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was spectacular, and you know it.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I have never loved about the Thursday

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Speaker 4: games is that if you get a game like that

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Speaker 4: from Jamar Chase and you're going against Jamar Chase, you

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Speaker 4: know your toast before you even get to some like

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Speaker 4: you're you're doomed and the Sunday doesn't even matter. That

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Speaker 4: I don't love but can we not get any more

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Speaker 4: five target jamar Chase games? Like can we make sure

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Speaker 4: he always gets more targets or as many targets as

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Speaker 4: t Higgins when Higgins is playing The guy's just so

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Speaker 4: good and so is Joe Burrow. And that was a

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Speaker 4: really fun game. And I regret betting the under, which

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Speaker 4: actually looked pretty good for a while. And then why

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Speaker 4: did that go up in flames?

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Speaker 2: Fast, Fitz, I want to ask you real fast, how

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Speaker 2: as much as you talked about in this entire offseason,

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Speaker 2: how much did you love seeing the Chase Brown eleven

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Speaker 2: target performance because that was freaking beautiful too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's And I mean if you want your

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Speaker 4: running back to be impactful against the Ravens, you have

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Speaker 4: to do that, use them as sort of, you know,

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Speaker 4: extensions of the running game, because if you hand it

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Speaker 4: to Chase Brown and ask him to go between the

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Speaker 4: tackles against the Ravens, Yeah, he actually did better in

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Speaker 4: that capacity than I thought he might do. But like

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Speaker 4: it's hard to do business against the Ravens that way.

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Speaker 4: So yes, by all means, like I love seeing sets

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Speaker 2: Somebody might have talked about Chase Brown's ability to handle

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Speaker 2: a high heavy workload all off scene. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if they're on the show, but I think that was

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Speaker 2: mentioned on this broadcast, right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the worm was challenging me the other day off

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Speaker 4: the top of my head, could I.

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Speaker 1: Remember the stat.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I I will say too, like that has always been

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Speaker 1: like for this season, the way to attack the Ravens defense,

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Speaker 1: like running backs through the air. It will become even

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Speaker 1: more that way for any amount of time Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 1: is out. Kyle Hamilton might be the best safety in

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Speaker 1: football at breaking up screens, and they were still that

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Speaker 1: bad all season against running backs catching the ball. So

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Speaker 1: if he's out, it's going to get even more you know,

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Speaker 1: feasting on that for opposing running backs against Baltimore. The

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Speaker 1: other thing I did, I just want to say quickly

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Speaker 1: is like I agree I guesse Everyoney's gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's a raven sommer. He definitely thought it shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been a call. No, it was a missed call at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, like absolutely got away with one,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Having said that, there were also miscalls that

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Speaker 1: it looks a lot more you know, bad, I guess,

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Speaker 1: but no, it was. It was absolutely a miscall. I

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Speaker 1: also am like, you know what, you kind of deserve

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Speaker 1: what you get, not just throwing the ball at Jumar

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Speaker 1: Chase the way he'd been playing, Like if you run

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Speaker 1: up and play to anybody else, you kind of ask

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Speaker 1: kind of get what you ask for there. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a good point. Fits like I have,

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Speaker 1: you know, Chase and Lamar together in our work fourteen

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Speaker 1: team league, and I'm going up against our boss Blaine,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, his his week's over already before it even

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Speaker 1: begins because I already have ninety points against him.

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Speaker 2: I saw my slack app light up late last night

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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, dear, does somebody have shitt

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Speaker 2: like Burrow and Chase? And then I saw your message

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Speaker 2: about I wonder who has Lamar and Chase in our league?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh crap, yeah no, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. Super fun game obviously, like one of the

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Speaker 1: best games of the year. Great Thursday night game. As

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Speaker 1: I speed last night, build the whole plane out of

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Speaker 1: Ravens Bengals games because they always always deliver, and then

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Speaker 1: again not really much fantasy takeaway because the stars were stars.

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Speaker 1: It was basically what even Derek Henry had a down

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Speaker 1: game still like sixty yards in a touchdown, like that's

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Speaker 1: his floor. So super fun time. Obviously, I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: picks for the Fantasy Over Under Challenge. Time now for

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Speaker 1: the Week ten Over Under Challenge. As always, this segment

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Speaker 1: is presented by DraftKings and I'm joined by Colin Kaward

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Speaker 1: to talk through some of our favorite player picks on

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Speaker 1: this week's slate. We'll jump right in, but first I

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Speaker 1: heading to fantasypros dot com Slash Challenge. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: start with the quarterbacks as usual. Sam Darnold obviously had

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Speaker 1: a much better season than a lot of people had

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Speaker 1: expected with Minnesota. He's at Jacksonville this week, QUB twelve

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Speaker 1: on the season on DraftKings, scoring seventeen point nine fantasy

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit recently. He's facing this Jags pass defense.

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Speaker 5: I think Sam's gonna play well. I worry that because

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Speaker 5: they have so many big divisional games coming up, it

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Speaker 5: could be a letdown game. But with Mac Jones potentially

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Speaker 5: more possessions for Sam Donald, probably better field position for

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald. I tend to look that a lot, and

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you guys the fantasy experts do,

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Speaker 5: but when you face a week quarterback, I think your

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Speaker 5: usually a little more aggressive offensive play calling. I think

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Speaker 5: this game will be decided by the Vikings defense against

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. You often hear people say, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be a blowout, so they're not

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Speaker 1: much late. But if it's a blowout, they're scoring points

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Speaker 1: you would think, and like you said, more opportunities shorter

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Speaker 1: fields as well. So I like that thought process. The

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, going up against the Jets. You know, not

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Speaker 1: an easy matchup at least in terms of the fantasy scoring.

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Speaker 1: Certainly on paper, Kyler's QB fourteen a little over seventeen

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Speaker 5: This is kind of a stay away game for me.

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Speaker 5: Jets played on Thursday, so as you know, they have

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Speaker 5: extra time. I like their defensive personnel. Arizona's on a

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Speaker 5: trust their maturity all the many of their best players

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Speaker 5: are kids, and Kyler's not. But he's always field. There's

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Speaker 5: some leadership maturity issues with him. I don't trust this

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Speaker 5: team to go on long winning streaks. They've been playing well,

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Speaker 5: but they've also been a team like against Miami, that

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Speaker 5: stay away from Kyler for me.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at some running backs here. Jonathan Taylor going

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Speaker 1: off against the Buffalo Bills. He was RB eight so

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Speaker 1: far in the season on DraftKings fifteen points per game.

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Speaker 1: he was RB four and week three, RB thirty seven

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Speaker 1: a Week nine. But he's going up against this Bill's

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Speaker 5: I love Taylor this week. I think the Colts upset

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Speaker 5: the Bills. I think Miami's off a highly emotional win

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Speaker 5: against Miami. I think they come in flat. They've got

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Speaker 5: that division wrapped up, right Buffalo. You could see them

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Speaker 5: flying to the Midwest, not a divisional game, off a

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Speaker 5: big rival let down emotionally, and you know, the Colts

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Speaker 5: still believe with Flacco they can win this division, right,

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Speaker 5: They still feel they got a shot here. This feels

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Speaker 5: like a much bigger game against a high profile team

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Speaker 5: in Buffalo. I like Taylor. I like the Colts in

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Speaker 5: my upset of the week.

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Speaker 1: That's a great I don't know that I've heard a

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Speaker 1: lot of people pick this as a possible upset. It's

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Speaker 1: a pretty consensus. You know, everybody's siding with the Bills

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Speaker 5: It's a stay away for me. The Chargers are now

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Speaker 5: also think strangely they become the Chiefs. We love their coach,

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Speaker 5: Of the Steelers defense best defense Washington's face. They bring

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Speaker 1: Last receiver here ceed Lamb, obviously some degree of question

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you keep your backup quarterback job? You

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Speaker 1: Thanks Colin. Good luck in week ten. All right? Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the reason Montgomery and Gibbs work is a. The

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Speaker 4: also like it's a better setup for running backs in

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh where you've got a defense that can actually hold

432
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Speaker 4: people and get your offense the ball back and give

433
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Speaker 4: you favorable game scripts.

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Speaker 3: So I'd hate to see it turn out to be

435
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Speaker 3: like that.

436
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Speaker 4: I guess I should acknowledge the possibility it is, but

437
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Speaker 4: right now I'm betting on something pretty close to the

438
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Speaker 4: status quo with as deebro said, Brooks threatening Miles Sanders

439
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Speaker 4: backup role more than Cuba's role.

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Speaker 2: I'm real curious with one thing before. I don't want

441
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Speaker 2: to get you know, too far in the weeds on this,

442
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Speaker 2: but like I know, people as soon as that news

443
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Speaker 2: hit they were thinking about, Okay, what do I do

444
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: in dynasty? And I'm like, is there any kind of

445
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Speaker 2: thought for me? Because I just and we don't have news.

446
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 2: I'm not breaking news, but like to just reading the

447
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 2: tea leaves here. Carolina has been very very conservative with Brooks,

448
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Speaker 2: like more so than I think a lot of us

449
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Speaker 2: even anticipated to this point. And now with this Cuba

450
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Speaker 2: Hubbard extension middle of the season nowhere free agency, I'm

451
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Speaker 2: kind of wondering, like was the the Brooks injury more

452
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Speaker 2: substantial or has the rehab not gone as well as

453
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Speaker 2: like maybe they hoped that has kind of like pulled

454
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Speaker 2: some of these levers. But I mean, and I don't

455
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Speaker 2: want to get two tenfold had here, but like, did

456
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Speaker 2: you think about that at all, like looking up dynasty

457
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Speaker 2: wise and moving forward because those things kind of just

458
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Speaker 2: like like popped off of my head after we saw

459
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Speaker 2: the news.

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Speaker 4: I didn't, but we should probably consider that possibility.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, fits you mentioned that they're like

462
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Speaker 1: the Panthers don't have incentive to play Jonathan Brooks. They

463
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Speaker 1: didn't really have incentive to pay cheb of Hubbard right now,

464
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Speaker 1: and they still did. So maybe they don't, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: view it in that same way. Saw somebody There is

466
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Speaker 1: some quote about how they like view cub Hubbard as

467
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Speaker 1: like the type of player that really like is emblematic

468
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Speaker 1: of their franchise and who they want to be, and

469
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Speaker 1: somebody was like Packers, Bart Starr, Ravens ed reed Cuba Hubbard.

470
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Speaker 1: I mean, to me, the biggest case against paying Chuba

471
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Speaker 1: Hubbard is Shoba Hubbard. You can find a guy like

472
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Speaker 1: him in the fourth round of the draft. That's why

473
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Speaker 1: you don't pay. It's not because running backs aren't good.

474
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Speaker 1: It's because you can find them later. And you know,

475
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Speaker 1: also the shorter shelf life. So I don't know that

476
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Speaker 1: this is going to be like the difference maker in

477
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Speaker 1: the state of their franchise, Like there was a lot

478
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Speaker 1: wrong anyway. So you want to pay a guy that

479
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Speaker 1: you know like and has done a good job for you, Sure,

480
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Speaker 1: but I just think it's bad practice and sign Hubb.

481
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Speaker 2: To an extension and pay him or draft somebody like

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Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy. Is there a difference?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well also too, like like you said, d where

484
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Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know what was bad, like drafting

485
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Speaker 1: Brooks in the second round or extending Schuba Hubbard. It's

486
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's both. You can do what.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer could be both easily both.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to a much more fun matchup.

489
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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't have said this in August, but these

490
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Speaker 1: have been two really fun teams for entirely different reasons

491
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Speaker 1: this season. Uh, Steelers at Commanders. It's a historic offense

492
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Speaker 1: what the Commanders are doing, and probably the best defense

493
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Speaker 1: in football for Pittsburgh. So I'm keeping this key question simple.

494
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Speaker 1: Who prevails this great offense or this great defense? Fits

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Speaker 1: will start with you.

496
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Speaker 3: Is it the best defense for him? Like the Steelers

497
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Speaker 3: are only eight.

498
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Speaker 1: I think it might be. I mean, I don't know

499
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Speaker 1: with like statistically speaking, what it is, but I think

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Speaker 1: they're awesome and when I watch them, I just feel

501
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Speaker 1: like that's the Toughesti's.

502
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Speaker 2: Definitely better than the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: God, I don't know about the best well irrelevant, Yeah.

504
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Speaker 4: They are a contender for best defense. I know they're

505
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Speaker 4: only eighth in defensive DVA, seventh against the run, tenth

506
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Speaker 4: against the pass. But it'll be interesting to see what

507
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Speaker 4: the acquisition of Preston Smith does for their pass rush

508
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Speaker 4: because right now Pittsburgh is only middle of the pack

509
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Speaker 4: in sacks and pressure rate, and getting Preston Smith should help.

510
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Speaker 4: Also helping getting my guy Nick Herbig back from a

511
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Speaker 4: hamstring injury, because that guy is a terror off the edge.

512
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Speaker 4: So that's gonna make Pittsburgh tough with the University of

513
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Speaker 4: Wisconsin edge combo of TJ.

514
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Speaker 3: Watt and Nick Herbig. But it's a really good de defense.

515
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Speaker 4: But I don't think we'll see a decisive winner in

516
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Speaker 4: the matchup between the Pittsburgh defense and the Washington offense.

517
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Speaker 4: I think Jayden Daniels will have his moments. I think

518
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: they'll be able to move the ball in fits and spurts.

519
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Speaker 4: But I don't think the Commanders are putting up a

520
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Speaker 4: forty burger on the Steelers either.

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Speaker 2: Debra, Yeah, I'm kind of where fits is like. I

522
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: think that both are going to have their moments. It's

523
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Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of push and pull. If I

524
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Speaker 2: have to pick one winner out of this, dude, I've

525
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: not bet against Jade and Daniels the entire entire season,

526
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Speaker 2: like even going back to prospect season. I'm not going

527
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Speaker 2: to bet against him now, and it's specifically because of

528
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Speaker 2: the reasons that fits stated like talking about the pass rush.

529
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Speaker 2: They've had the third lowest quarterback hurry rate. Now, maybe

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Speaker 2: Preston Smith makes a dent in that. I doubt a

531
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Speaker 2: serious dent in that for his first game. So yes,

532
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Speaker 2: I'm not betting against Jadan Daniels, Like he's pretty much

533
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Speaker 2: like between rushing equity and how good he has been

534
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Speaker 2: as a passer. And this flows over to Terry McLaurin.

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Speaker 2: They're pretty much freaking matchup proof. I don't care I'm

536
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Speaker 2: starting them just regardless of the matchup.

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Speaker 1: Is there any player in this game that you on

538
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Speaker 1: the Commander's offensive side that there's a bad matchup, like

539
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: even if you're still starting them in the bad matchup

540
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Speaker 1: as anybody that you are worried about.

541
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Speaker 2: Brian Robinson Junior easiest player to talk about here. Terrible matchup,

542
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: terrible matchup on the ground, and the bigger point of like, okay,

543
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: when when you see running backs get these bad matchups

544
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Speaker 2: on the ground versus really tough run defenses, then we're like, okay,

545
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: like a la Chase Brown, you either need to get

546
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: a lot of volume or get pass game work, and

547
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Brian Robinson Junior gets either. So really

548
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: you're hoping that he sucks out with touchdowns because he's

549
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 2: been living in this thirty percent snap range when he's

550
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Speaker 2: not been fully healthy, and maybe that goes up to

551
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Speaker 2: forty percent, But what are we talking about here, Like

552
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Speaker 2: he probably gets somewhere in the neighborhood of like eleven

553
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Speaker 2: to fourteen carries no pass game work, I mean really,

554
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Speaker 2: so you're just betting on that he rips a long

555
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: run probably unlikely versus this run defense, or he scores

556
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Speaker 2: a touchdown. So really that makes him a touchdown dependent

557
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: RB three instead of an RB two, where I think

558
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Speaker 2: a lot of people kind of view him at.

559
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: By the way it fits, just to like, you know,

560
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: make sure people don't think i'much, a're just just gassing

561
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: up the AFC North or whatever. Like I recognize that

562
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Speaker 1: there are other teams that are better statistically defensively, like

563
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a really good case best defense in football,

564
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: the Vikings obviously, I just think the Steelers are really,

565
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Speaker 1: really good is maybe the better way to frame it.

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Speaker 4: No, I agree, I would personally cast my vote for

567
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs as the best defense in football, but yeah.

568
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Speaker 1: It probably is the Chiefs. I think I like the

569
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Speaker 1: Steelers defense maybe better than the Vikings, even though the

570
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Speaker 1: Vikings pass rush is amazing and they've been better so

571
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Speaker 1: far this season. Like if I'm projecting forward, but I

572
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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are probably the correct answer. Let's go

573
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Speaker 1: to Bills at Colts, to teams that would not be

574
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Speaker 1: in that conversation for best defense in football. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about James Cook. We didn't really mentioned him

576
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Speaker 1: a ton on the show or really any of the

577
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Speaker 1: shows we've done the last couple of weeks. The last

578
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Speaker 1: five games, he has either been a top five running

579
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Speaker 1: back or outside the top twenty four. Very boom or

580
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Speaker 1: bust for James Cook. So Debro, I ask you, where

581
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Speaker 1: should he be ranked for Week ten?

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Speaker 2: I've got James Cook right now at RB fourteen. I think,

583
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Speaker 2: looking at him, and that's probably a little bit low.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I think he should be a low

585
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Speaker 2: end RB one this week. I think it's more boom

586
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: than bust, and looking at it, I mean, this is

587
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: just an easy narrative. Man, Colts can't stop the run.

588
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: Second most rushing yards allowed per game. They suck versus

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Speaker 2: zone runs tenth highest zone rushing success rate allowed. Sixty

590
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Speaker 2: one point five percent of Cook's runs have been on

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Speaker 2: zone concepts. I think this is a game where we

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Speaker 2: should be ranking James Cook closer to being a top

593
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Speaker 2: five option than being an RB two.

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Speaker 1: What do you think fits?

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00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: I agree with t bro Yes, the production has been

596
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: somewhat uneven, but if you net it out, that results

597
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: are eight touchdowns in eight games and eighty three point

598
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: three yards from scrimmage per game, which works out too.

599
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 4: In PPR scoring. He is tied for RB ten in

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Speaker 4: points per game among running backs with Jonathan Taylor and

601
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Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt. And that seems about right because I think

602
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: of all of those guys as low end RB one's.

603
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: I've got him RB eleven James Cook this week, so

604
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Speaker 4: and the Colts. Deebrow says, there's some things to like

605
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: about the matchup. I mean other things. It is no

606
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Speaker 4: worse than a neutral matchup, and quite possibly a favorable

607
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Speaker 4: one for James Cook. So yeah, I think he should

608
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: be a back end RB one.

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Speaker 1: I just moved him with the RB ten, what kind

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Speaker 1: of usage do you expect Debro given, like also just

611
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Speaker 1: the injuries for the receiving players in this offense. I mean,

612
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Speaker 1: Kean Coleman already ruled out some question as of now

613
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Speaker 1: when we're recording about Amari Cooper, does that, you know,

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Speaker 1: really increase your your interest in James Cook to a

615
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Speaker 1: significant degree or maybe just a slight boost.

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Speaker 2: I think it boosts not all James Cook, but flow

617
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: this over to Khalil Shakir and Dalton Kinkaid. All three

618
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: of these players have plus matchups this week every way

619
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Speaker 2: every way you slice this, And now you're telling me

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Speaker 2: that Amari Cooper is probably going to be out. We'll

621
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Speaker 2: see with the news ends up being. Kean Coleman's already

622
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: been ruled out, and Curtis Samuel has not been a

623
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Speaker 2: full time player in this offense. Mac Collins has his moments.

624
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Speaker 2: He probably catches a freaking touchdown that I'm actually saying

625
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Speaker 2: all this, but this is all to say that, yes,

626
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Speaker 2: like I want to be above consensus for those three

627
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: specific players this week, and warm you'll have to tell

628
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Speaker 2: me where's Khalil Shakir in ranks right now? Because I

629
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Speaker 2: have him right now at Oh, Khalil, where are you?

630
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Speaker 2: I've got him at a wide receiver seventeen? Is that

631
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: too lot?

632
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Speaker 1: He's wide receiver twenty four in ECR for half GPR scoring.

633
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Speaker 2: Because I think I might actually bump him up, like

634
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Speaker 2: here's an interesting conversation boys, And maybe this sounds crazy,

635
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Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, like banged up plus has Cooper Rush's

636
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Speaker 2: quarterback Khalil Shakira se D Lamb. Who do you rather

637
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: this week?

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00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: Oh?

639
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: They're actually back to back for the record in ECR.

640
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Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, I would much rather have Lamb.

641
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Speaker 2: Okay, and I think I take shakier. I've seen too

642
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: much Cooper Rush in my life.

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Speaker 1: Secures waders here for twenty four, Ceede Lambs wider here

644
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: with twenty three in ECR. So that's really interesting that

645
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Speaker 1: you picked that name because they are there. It's funny

646
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: like you look compared to like what you would think

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Speaker 2: That that pass that Burrow threw over to Ravens defenders

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Speaker 1: As somebody who obviously was very motivated to see them

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand why they didn't throw it in the

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Speaker 1: That was what I was most scared of, as somebody

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Speaker 1: That's all I'll say. All right, let's go to forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers at Buccaneers. What do we expect out of

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing somewhere between twelve to seventeen touches for McCaffrey,

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Speaker 2: Debra wheels up for everybody. I mean, CMC, I don't

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Speaker 2: I can't rank him as an RB one in his

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Speaker 2: But I've gotta hi an RB sixteen. I agree with

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Speaker 2: don't think that stops here. So yeah, it wheels up

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Speaker 1: I really kind of struggle with ranking CMC this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why San Francisco would bring him back

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Speaker 1: really close to it, I don't know why we would

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Speaker 1: see it for a game before he comes back. How

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Speaker 1: are you approaching ranking him?

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Speaker 4: I've got him Marbi ten, one spot ahead of James Cook,

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Speaker 4: And you pretty much summed up my philosophy on injuries

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Speaker 4: medical staffs don't want to bring players back prematurely and

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Speaker 4: risk these guys having long term absences. So I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a game that I'm really fascinated by,

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Speaker 4: Fits Well wouldn't have to be either both carryover or

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Speaker 4: I mean so, I like, I don't know if the

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Speaker 4: would you bet over or under over?

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Speaker 2: I want him. I think he's a low end wide

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Speaker 1: I would bet over.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is and all of that. It really comes

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Speaker 2: He legit like they had been playing him in a

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins took over that role, so he is going

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Speaker 2: to play that role when people need to understand that

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Speaker 2: because he played forty five percent of his snaps in

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Speaker 2: just like rest of season, he's droppable. He is now

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Speaker 2: playing the DeMarcus Robinson the NBS role where he is

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what the numbers said from last week.

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Speaker 4: Like you would have thought those guys would be immensely

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Speaker 1: Also Derek Henry looking like he would need touchdowns to

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Speaker 1: be relevant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah true in that true or.

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Speaker 1: Speak too, Yeah, a lot of stuff didn't pan out.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, don't overreact to one week.

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Speaker 1: I to answer your questions fits on DeAndre Hopkins, Like,

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00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: I do agree. He's actually ranked in our ECR for

865
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: rest of season as wide receiver twenty six. Like, I

866
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: think that's going to continue to go up. Oh, but

867
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: that's that's a sign that maybe right now you should

868
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: go try and trade for Hopkins in new league. We

869
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: think we think that that's off. We think he's misvalued.

870
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: As far as Worthy goes philosophically, I really like investing

871
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: in second half of the season talented for the first

872
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: round rookie receivers. Everything we have seen on the field

873
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: in terms of usage and in terms of the actual play,

874
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: the eye test, the stats, like, he is an obvious

875
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: drop if not for the fact that he falls under

876
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: the umbrella of the types of players I philosophically like

877
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: to pursue. So if I can get past that, you know, barrier,

878
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: then yes, I think he's definitely a drop candidate.

879
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe there's something to be said for the theory that,

880
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: like the Andy Reid offense, is hard for rookies to

881
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 4: pick up because we saw guy more completely.

882
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: Buzs say, yeah, he's not the first rookie receiver to struggle.

883
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: No, I mean, yeah, maybe Kansas City just needs to

884
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: start just signing veteran wide receivers and quit quit with

885
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: drafting rookies and hurting our heart.

886
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Ra she Rice took off in the second half of

887
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: his rookie season too, and then looks like.

888
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess Rice, that's the obvious exception.

889
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: That's fair depro. What do you think about this this game?

890
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: And you know, given that we saw the Broncos statistically

891
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: had a case in that best defensive football argument. Again,

892
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: statistically speaking, they were facing easier competition, you know, prior

893
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: to last week, and then they get absolutely roasted. So

894
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: do you think that's more typical of what we're gonna

895
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: see for them going forward? Again, it's hard to know

896
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs are a similarly difficult matchup because you know,

897
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: historically sure, but this season not so much. Last week, Yes,

898
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: what do you think of this one?

899
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: So first of all, nobody can stop Derrick Henry in

900
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: the Ravens rushing attack. Nobody. You can just hope to

901
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: try to like quell that storm a little bit or

902
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: try to contain them. Good luck, you're not doing that.

903
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: I mean, even since, like we talked about, Derrick Henry

904
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: had a down game last night, Like it's just a fact.

905
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: So I think that the Broncos will be able to

906
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: contain Kareem Hunt to an extent. He's still gonna probably

907
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: like sniff twenty five opportunities and it's not going to

908
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: matter because the volume he's gonna see. But the big

909
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: thing that I want to highlight with this matchup is

910
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: that what has been helping Denver and really really help

911
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: their past defense is Patrick's retained shadowing guys and taking

912
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: the number one wide receivers off the board. Now, the

913
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: Ravens exploited this last week and said, Okay, fine, you

914
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: don't move into the slot a whole lot. So we're

915
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: going to play our best wide receiver in the slot

916
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the time. You're telling me that Andy

917
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: Reid's not going to do the same damn thing after

918
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: playing DeAndre Hopkins in the slot forty five percent of

919
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: the time last week. So yeah, I think Hopkins probably

920
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: sees a fifty maybe sixty percent slot rate. I think

921
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey is going to get volume and get his

922
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: and I think the Chiefs are going to roll like

923
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know if we see mahomes By

924
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: as good as he was last week, because It's been

925
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: a long time, but I think we're going to see

926
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: probably he's going to be in that eighteen to twenty

927
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: fantasy point range this week or close to it. And

928
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: the Chiefs might not look as good as they did

929
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: last week, but they're still going to look very, very

930
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: good in Hopkins gonna have a good game quickly.

931
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: No explanation, no thoughts, Just give me a number, Patrick Mahomes.

932
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: Rest of season will be fantasy QB blank, oh ye,

933
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: ten and eleven. Okay, so low end QB one for

934
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: the guys. Let's go to another matchup here, Falcons. That's

935
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: Saints divisional matchup here, fun rivalry. When the teams are good,

936
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: Are there any Saints beyond Alvin Kamara worth starting now

937
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: that they have a new head coach. We often see

938
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: teams kind of change up their philosophy sometimes get that

939
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: new coach, you know, bump for the players. Is there

940
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: any players in New Orleans we want to start setting

941
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: aside Alvin Kamara, deepro Taysom Hill.

942
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: That's it. It's it's just it's just King Taysom Man

943
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: like regardless. I mean, he is, he is like Thanos,

944
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: he is inevitable. All roads lead back to Taysom Hill

945
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: on the Saints offense, It's like, oh, well, what did

946
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: Taysom do last time he played the Falcons? Oh, that's right,

947
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: he got two rushing scores. Okay, and Atlanta's still bad

948
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: versus the rushing attack. Okay? Check? Oh wait, is Atlanta

949
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: any good versus tight ends? Nope? Allowing the ninth most

950
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: Fantasy points per game to tight ends? Okay? Well check.

951
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: So regardless, if you want to talk about Taysom the

952
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: the rushing weapon, boom, you want to talk about Taysom

953
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: the receiving weapon, who also, by the way, led the

954
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: team with a twenty percent first read share last week, Boom,

955
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: He's gonna pop off their way. So I mean, either

956
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: way it goes all road sleep Back to Taysom.

957
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Hill, Deebro. Taysom Hill is tight end eight in ecr

958
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Is that too high? Too low?

959
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: Or too low? I've got him. That's too low. I

960
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: mean I've got him at uh. Let's see, I've got

961
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill right now at I've had him at tight

962
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: end five earlier in the week I dropped him. He

963
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: is tight end eight in my ranks, But I do

964
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: think it was too low. I will slap my own

965
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: wrist with that one.

966
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: What do you think fits spicy?

967
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 4: I've got him at tight end A two, and I

968
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 4: agree with dee Bro's assessment. You know, look, Chris olave

969
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: out its rashid shei heat out for the year. Alvin

970
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: Kamara with thirty five touches last week, like he's not

971
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 4: going to survive if they keep giving him that sort

972
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 4: of workload. So yeah, I mean it seems like the

973
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: more adverse things the Saints' offense is dealing with, the

974
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 4: better it is for Taysom Hill. So Debro comped him

975
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: to Thanos. I would comp him to a funeral director,

976
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: funeral home director, because tragedy is good for business for

977
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: Taysom Hill.

978
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: It's fair.

979
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Wow, it's fair.

980
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: Alvacas are a really dark metaphor, but it totally fit.

981
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Dude. Plase Alva Kamara is RB five and he see her.

982
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: By the way, do you worry that he's just going

983
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: to get one hundred percent of the defensive attention here

984
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: or the volume is king and he'll be fine?

985
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: I mean defensive attention when the defense can't stop the

986
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: run doesn't really matter to me.

987
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got him a consensus.

988
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 4: You would think maybe there would be a little bit

989
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 4: of pullback and that they're not looking to get him

990
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: twenty five plus touches this week if they can help it.

991
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make the case to get away

992
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: from Camara obviously like you should. Sorry, I'm just trying

993
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: to ask the question. But yeah, over under twenty eight

994
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: and a half touches for him in this game.

995
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: Well, it's a good line, all right.

996
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: Growing up, basketball was never near the top of my

997
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: list of favorite sports. I always preferred baseball and then

998
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: football as I got older. But once I was in

999
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: college at Maryland, I completely fell in love with the

1000
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: atmosphere at college basketball games. The energy, the passion, the noise,

1001
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: the chills. There's no fan experience in the world quite

1002
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: like a high level college troops game. I still remember

1003
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: storming the court my final game as a student senior

1004
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: year against Uva. And now that I'm a decade past

1005
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: my days as a student, which is sad to think about,

1006
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: when I need basketball tickets, I turned to Game Time,

1007
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: which is fun to think about. Game Time has this

1008
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Speaker 1: new feature called Game Time Picks, which filters out the

1009
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1010
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Speaker 1: It makes getting tickets to see your favorite teams play

1011
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,960
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1012
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Speaker 1: the Game Time app it's too long to read everything.

1013
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Here are some standouts for me personally. I love the

1014
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1015
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,440
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1016
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1017
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Speaker 1: no surprise fees at checkout. There's nothing in the world

1018
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: more infuriating to me than thinking I know what I'm

1019
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Speaker 1: about to spend on a purchase, then getting hit with

1020
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: a surprise fee at the last second. That doesn't happen

1021
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1022
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,720
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1023
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1029
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Speaker 1: What time is it? Game Time? It's My next key

1030
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: question is how scared are you as a Wisconsin fan

1031
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: of having Derek Queen in the Big Ten.

1032
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: Now, hey, we're two and oer man.

1033
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 4: We've beaten the Holy Cross and University of Wisconsin Milwaukee.

1034
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah you storm the cord after those?

1035
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: No, I did not.

1036
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, hopefully, hopefully this much hyped prospect works out

1037
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 4: better for Maryland than i'mond Stone, who you played from

1038
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 4: Wisconsin and turned out to be not that good despite

1039
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: all the He's.

1040
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: Going to take a nap when anyway.

1041
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I suppose I should have known that was coming,

1042
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: considering that Diamond soone almost went to Wisconsin, so that

1043
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: was a fair game. Let's go to an actual football question.

1044
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: Patriots Bears Drake Bay is quarterback twenty two in ECR

1045
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: for Week ten, but he's been QB ten, QB seven,

1046
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: and QB eighteen in his three healthy starts this season.

1047
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Should he be ranked higher? Even in what is clearly

1048
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: a tough matchup? Fits, I'll start with you this time.

1049
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: On paper, it's a tough matchup.

1050
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 4: The Bears have allowed the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks,

1051
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: but the Bears also seem like they might be collapsing.

1052
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 4: They responded to their Hail Mary loss to the Commanders

1053
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: by getting their wigs peeled back by the Arizona Cardinals

1054
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 4: last week in the Desert, so team morale seems low.

1055
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 4: Matt Eberflus's job is probably hanging by a thread right now,

1056
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: so I don't think this is that scary a matchup

1057
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: for Drake May, although the Bears are expected to get

1058
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: edge rusher Montes Sweat and cornerback Kyler Gordon back, which

1059
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 4: is gonna help that defense. But still three games for

1060
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 4: Drake May that he's started and finished, he's averaging twenty

1061
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: excuse me, two hundred and forty one point six passing yards,

1062
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 4: two touchdown passes, and fifty point three rushing yards. So

1063
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: I have Drake May ranked QB twenty one, and I

1064
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 4: feel like that might be too conservative.

1065
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, based on everything he just laid out,

1066
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: I was guessing you were gonna say he's top twenty,

1067
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: top eighteen.

1068
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: It's a weirdly good week for quarterbacks.

1069
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: I agreed.

1070
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, if you look at it, like the

1071
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: guys ranked ahead of him, who were you dropping? You know,

1072
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is one spot ahead of him, Bo Nicks,

1073
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in the same matchup, Herbert, who I know

1074
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: you have really high fits, Stroud, Daniel Jones. Those are

1075
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: the names that are directly above Drake May and there's

1076
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: cases to be made for a lot of those guys.

1077
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got I'm ahead of I've got him ahead

1078
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: of Stroud. If Nico Collins isn't back, you know, I

1079
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: think I have him one spot ahead of Caleb. Now

1080
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 4: I've got him one spot behind Caleb, and I might

1081
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: have to change that. I think I'd rather play May

1082
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: than Caleb this week, Deeber.

1083
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: What do you think again? May is QB twenty two,

1084
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: So given this matchup, is that too high? Too lower?

1085
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: Just right as we're kind of going through this, I

1086
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: felt like I was being dismissive too. I bumped him

1087
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: up to QB sixteen. I don't want to play him.

1088
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: I think other quarterbacks they're not in my ranks in

1089
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: this range. But I would still play Aaron Rodgers over him.

1090
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: I would still play Justin Herbert over him, but I

1091
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: think playing him over Stroud, even Baker Mayfield, Caleb Williams,

1092
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson, Bo Nix, all of those guys,

1093
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: I think May needs to be ranked above them, but

1094
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: there are other players that are in the QB two

1095
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: range that I will still play over May. I think.

1096
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: I think Drake May versus Tua this week is a

1097
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: very interesting conversation. I think that's kind of where my

1098
00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: line is.

1099
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: By the way, like you know, we're focusing on the

1100
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: three games that he started and completed healthy. In that

1101
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: fourth game that he left early, he still had forty

1102
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: six yards and a touchdown and not a lot of

1103
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: playing time, Like that's just another kind of, you know,

1104
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: a feather in his cap. In terms of what this

1105
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: rushing is. I wonder if we are not we the

1106
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: three of us, but we as an industry are like

1107
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: not reacting quickly enough to the rushing equity that you

1108
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: quick May. Like we knew that he could do this

1109
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: at North Carolina and the people who liked him in

1110
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: rookie drafts in dynasty leagues said this is a guy

1111
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: who can run too. But I don't know that he's

1112
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: being ranked as a guy who is as good a

1113
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: runner as Drake May is.

1114
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: I think the best comparison. I think that that is

1115
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: very spot on worm that we are probably not catching

1116
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: up quick enough to his rushing upside and his production.

1117
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he is this player, and I'm not

1118
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 2: saying he has the attributes of this player. I'm also

1119
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: not saying that he has the same type of talent

1120
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: anything like that. But I think this is very close

1121
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: to the production we are getting in fantasy to a

1122
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: dollar store version of rookie season.

1123
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Yeah, yeah, I can see that, like even

1124
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: like stylistically, like just like, for example, a couple spots

1125
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: ahead from bow Nicks, somebody who's there, because he's also

1126
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: shown us the rushing equity, I believe justin just as

1127
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: much in May's ability to run as an NFL quarterback

1128
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: as bo Nix and Knicks is going up against the

1129
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs that we just said might have the best.

1130
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean Nick's Dollars store Daniel Jones. So it's pretty much.

1131
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: Quick quick note on that Drake May averaged ten rushing

1132
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 4: attempts during his two seasons as a starter at North

1133
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: Carolina ten.

1134
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: Yep.

1135
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Drake May is really good. I'm really

1136
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: excited to see what he does once the Patriots get

1137
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: some better players around him in future seasons. I did

1138
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: have a second question in this game, and you kind

1139
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: of touched on this briefly. Fits. Just the vibes around

1140
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: the Bears are not good. So I just wanted to

1141
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: kind of throw out, like, which Chicago player do we

1142
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: have the most faith in for Fantasy this week?

1143
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: Oh?

1144
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: Most, It's not a quot question in a most worm,

1145
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: It's a question of only it's DeAndre Swift and that's it.

1146
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 4: And I mean, like, I don't feel good about having

1147
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: any other Bear in my starting lineup. And I say

1148
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 4: this as someone who is forced to in our company

1149
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: league start Caleb Williams and Romo Dunes this week, and

1150
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: I don't feel good about it.

1151
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: In the least Debra same question.

1152
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the only one I feel good about starting

1153
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: is DeAndre Swift. I agree with Fits now. I think

1154
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: like when the question is posed, I think a lot

1155
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: of people are going to say, Okay, which wide receiver?

1156
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: If you have to start one of these wide receivers,

1157
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: who would you feel most comfortable starting this week? It's

1158
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: not Dj Moore. I want to lead off with that.

1159
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: I think he gets shot up by Christian Gonzales. I

1160
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: don't want to play Dj Moore. The only guy that

1161
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: I actually like would feel any modicum of Okay, I

1162
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 2: think he's got talent. I think he's going to get targets,

1163
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: and the matchup is good for him is Roma Dunzey,

1164
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: and he's been popping off man like since since they

1165
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: come back from the bye, he's been more integrated into

1166
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: this offense, Like since week eight, twenty percent targets here,

1167
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: two point one yards per route run. So he's the

1168
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: only player from it because it's it's not Cole Comet.

1169
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen has done nothing. They're not even on the

1170
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: same page. Like. That was one of my biggest worries

1171
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: about Keenan Allen going to Chicago is Caleb Williams doesn't

1172
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: consist And that's the problem with Kayla Williams right now.

1173
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't consistently. And I went on a rant on

1174
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: this yesterdays and Warm's already heard this, but he doesn't

1175
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: consistently play on schedule. And if you have a guy

1176
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 2: running out of the slot, that's a timing based player

1177
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: that is route running all this stuff, and it's not

1178
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: okay when the play breaks down and we run, we

1179
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: run the Merry Go round. That's not Keenan Allen's not

1180
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: going to succeed in an offense or with a player

1181
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: like that.

1182
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 4: Four point seven yards per target for Keenan Allen this season,

1183
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 4: and it's not.

1184
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: A Keenan Allen problem. I want to be very specific

1185
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: about that. If you look at the per route metrics,

1186
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: that's not a Keenan Allen problem. That's a Kalla Williams problem.

1187
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eagles at Cowboys, Dee Bro, how are

1188
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: we approaching the Dallas offense in fantasy with Dak Prescott

1189
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: out and Seedy Lamb banged up?

1190
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: Tentatively, I don't think Cooper Rush is any good. Rico

1191
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: is gonna get volume, but it's a horrible, horrible matchup.

1192
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people look at him as

1193
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: a volume based RB two. I can't rank him there

1194
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 2: because the matchup is horrible for him. He's an RB

1195
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: three for me, just volume based. Ceedee Lamb a wide

1196
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: receiver two. I'm not playing Jalen Tolbert. I'm not playing

1197
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: any other pass catcher from that offense outside of Jake

1198
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: Ferguson and Jake Ferguson I have as a tight end

1199
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: two this week. I just think you downgrade everybody and

1200
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: the guys you are playing out of this offense. Are

1201
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: very slim and it's all volume based. And no, I

1202
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: don't care about Jonathan Mingo by the.

1203
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, like everybody again, I had.

1204
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: To be mentioned because people are gonna ask U questions.

1205
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's a good place. I'm glad you brought

1206
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: it up. I fully endorse not caring about him.

1207
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 4: I'm I'm worried about Jonathan Mingo devaluing all my Cavante

1208
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: Turpin shares.

1209
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: Deep Dynasty best Ball Baby.

1210
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I agree with debro On, Dowbell and Ferguson.

1211
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: I've got Dowell RB twenty five and Ferguson tight End sixteen.

1212
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: Don't want to play either of those guys, but I

1213
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 4: did promise earlier in the show some ceed Lamb optimism.

1214
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: So for the all the Lamb stakeholders out there, here

1215
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: is your mint jelly. In twenty twenty two, Dak Prescott

1216
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: got hurt early in the season and Cooper Rush had

1217
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: to make five starts for the Cowboys. In those five starts,

1218
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 4: Cede Lamb averaged six point two catches seventy six yards

1219
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: and had two touchdowns. So like he was still very

1220
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: playable when Cooper Rush started those five games. So pretty good,

1221
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 4: Chunk of the schedule, Ceed Lambs still productive. I've got

1222
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: him ranked wide receiver nine, and it's kind of because

1223
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 4: of the texture of the wide receiver position this week,

1224
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 4: like there aren't I don't know, I feel good about

1225
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: maybe seven receivers this week, and after that things get

1226
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: kind of dicey. So he's still kind of in the

1227
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 4: dicey category, but I am ranking him as a low

1228
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: end receiver one this week.

1229
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: Those who are listening on the audio feed have already

1230
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: heard earlier in the show my conversation with Colin Coward.

1231
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: We do the over runner challenge every week, and so

1232
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: for those on the video side who don't have that.

1233
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: As part of this episode, we did talk about how

1234
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: when you're a backup quarterback, what do you do you

1235
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: throw to the superstar. So as long as Seedy Lamb

1236
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: can handle the targets and your health wise, he will

1237
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: get the targets. This is what backup quarterbacks do. It's

1238
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: the best way to stay a backup quarterback is to

1239
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: know kind of where your bread is buttered, and this

1240
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: offense that is very clearly Seed Lambs. I wouldn't be

1241
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: surprised if we see some some real decent volume for

1242
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: lamb in this one efficiency going to be a question.

1243
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: Mark that bread could be starting to kind of turn moldy.

1244
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: I just gonna mention, Yeah, it's it's a fair, it's

1245
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: a fair rebuttal, let's go to Sunday Night. Before we

1246
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: get to the key question for Sunday Night's matchup, I

1247
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: want to ask you guys about your Uber Eats Sunday

1248
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: Night Meals of the week debro. What must order food

1249
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: gets you reaching for your Uber eats at for great

1250
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: game day deals when you think of Houston.

1251
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of dismissed of the fact that

1252
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: we only have one day a week that is synonymous

1253
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: with tacos. I want all seven freaking days of the

1254
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: week's anonymous with tacos. And I'm going to brothers tacos.

1255
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: Just just all the freaking tacos, all the cilantro, all

1256
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: of it, all the time.

1257
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: I fully endorse having tacos more than once a week.

1258
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: I strongly agree with that you can.

1259
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: Eat them for every meal, like we have breakfast tacos.

1260
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: Long I make breakfast tacos four times a week. Yes, honestly,

1261
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: Theresa tacos one on one, easy, easy fits.

1262
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: How about you man, I feel like I should mention

1263
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 4: Vietnamese food because I know Houston is known for great

1264
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: Vietnamese food, But I have to go with I'm always

1265
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: a fool for barbecue, and I've heard really good things

1266
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 4: about Gatlands barbecue and Houston.

1267
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say some variation of barbecue

1268
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: as well, dee Bro. When we talked about this in slack,

1269
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: I was surprised that that wasn't the first place you

1270
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: went was barbecue. I just think of text. Is that

1271
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: like more of a Dallas thing or more of an

1272
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: other parts of Texas thing, or is Houston. I mean,

1273
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: I haven't been to Houston, but I would assume the

1274
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: barbecue is still super.

1275
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: Barbecue is still good. But tacos are the one oh one,

1276
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm just not picking anything above tacos.

1277
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: But the one thing I did tell you in slack

1278
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: when we we were talking about this, I also saw

1279
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: when I was looking up Houston places to eat that

1280
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: like creole Louisiana because cuisine was part of a thing.

1281
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we

1282
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: are not. Every single Louisiana person, whether it listens to

1283
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: this show, will tell you you're not getting Cajun or Creole

1284
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: food outside of Louisiana unless that chef happened to work

1285
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: in Louisiana and it's from there past that.

1286
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Speaker 1: No, No, I know we're talking Houston and at New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to New Orleans and the biggest reason

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Speaker 1: I want to go, I think it would be a

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Speaker 1: really fun please food man. Regardless of I want to

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Speaker 1: go for the food so badly, like I would gain

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01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: thirty five pounds in a long weekend. I h that's

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Speaker 1: really appealing to me. So there you have it. Our

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Speaker 1: Uber Eats Sunday Night Meals of the Week. We've got

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Speaker 1: some tech you know, tacos of any variety, I'll say,

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Speaker 1: on any day of the week, and we like to

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Speaker 1: barbecue as well. Uber Eats has the best game day

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Speaker 1: deals all season long. Order now for game day, Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: lines at Texans, I think probably the game of the week,

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Speaker 1: even with the Texans not at full strength. It's seeming

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01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: like can CJ. Stroud get back to playing at a

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Speaker 1: high level even if Nico Collins isn't suiting up in

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Speaker 1: this one?

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Speaker 4: Fits No, I've got him at quarterback twenty three right now?

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: Stroud has thrown four less than two hundred yards, and

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01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: three of the four games that Nico has been out,

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01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 4: he's only averaging one touchdown pass a game over that stretch.

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Speaker 4: And the Texans offensive line has completely fallen apart. When

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Speaker 4: we last saw Houston on Halloween Night, the Jets sacked CJ.

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01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 4: Stroud eight times in that game. But this goes back

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Speaker 4: like three games. They the Texans offensive line is playing

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: worse now than it early in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud's rookie season when they had like four starters hurt

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Speaker 4: and I was worried that CJ. Stroud might not survive,

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: that he might be like David Carr early in his

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 4: career getting sacked so much that it ruined him.

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Speaker 3: He survived that just fine.

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Speaker 4: But like, I don't know if he can survive what's

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Speaker 4: going on right now because they are not protecting him

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 1: Deebro, what do you think? And by the way, in

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Speaker 1: ECR he's QB seventeen fits has already kind of discussed

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Speaker 1: how he's lower on Stroud than consensus. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: where you stand.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, wherever consensus is gonna come in at you

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Speaker 2: say he's QB seventeen. Right now, yep, I got him

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01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: at QB twenty. I'm gonna play Kleb over him, Baker Mayfield,

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, Drake may to It's and.

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Speaker 1: For all Herbert is ranked one spot behind Stroud.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's ridiculous. Herbert should not be ranked that low.

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01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: That's dismissed. It to whatever. Herbert has been the QB

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Speaker 2: ten over the last three weeks, So get with it, people,

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Speaker 2: He's a QB one this week. What are we doing here?

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01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: But with Stroud for all the reasons that fits brought

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01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: up man, the offensive line is playing terrible. His ceiling

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: is so heavily correlated to Nico Collins that if Nico

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01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: doesn't play, yeah, he's a bottom end QB two. And

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Speaker 2: it's not a Stroud problem, it's it's in everything else

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: around him problem. Like since week seven, tell me what

1340
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: quarterback can succeed in an offense? Since since week seven, CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud is facing the eighth highest pressure rate in the league.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, excuse me, the highest. I'm sorry, I'm under

1343
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: selling this. It's the eighth fastest time to pressure, but

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Speaker 2: the highest pressure rate. He has been pressured since week

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01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: seven on fifty four percent of his dropbacks. Tell me

1346
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: what freaking quarterback in the NFL can succeed like that?

1347
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: Who with also downgraded weapons? I nobody. The answer you're

1348
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: searching for is nobody. So don't play this at the

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: feet of c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 4: Week seven was that game against the Packers where I

1351
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 4: think the pack pressure rate on CJ. Strod was like

1352
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 4: sixty two point eight percent and it was the highest

1353
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 4: of the season. It's like over fifty percent for a

1354
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 4: three week stretch. That is just awful, horrible.

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01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: So so obviously we all agree that the majority of

1356
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: the problem is not CJ. Strodd. Do you think that

1357
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: zero of the blame is Stroud or is it just

1358
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: like you know, on a scale of one to ten,

1359
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: it's like one or two. It's like a very low amount.

1360
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: Do you think he like there's anything that he's doing

1361
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: wrong and can be doing better or it is like

1362
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: truly one hundred percent the other stuff around him.

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01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a one or two. I think

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01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: there are a few times where we've seen him missthrows,

1365
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: but like hard to blame him. It's not it's not else.

1366
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: It's not a second year fall off in the way

1367
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: like at the box scores. I understand why people are

1368
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: upset or fantasy whatever. I get that if you watch

1369
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: the games at all, the talents still there, the composure, Like,

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01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, we playing quarterback when you got somebody

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: in your freaking face as soon as you hike the ball,

1372
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: like you don't even have time to go through your

1373
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: progressions even maybe get to your second read. What the

1374
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: hell is he supposed to do? Like seriously?

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I just wanted to ask a question because

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Speaker 1: I agree with you Dolphins at RAMS Monday Night Football Fits,

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01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: we received tons of start seeing questions this week about

1378
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle on every live stream that we did, and

1379
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: I know we talked about him a bit on Thursday

1380
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: with ericson FITS. So I'll throw to you first here,

1381
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: what are our expectations for Jalen Wattle against the Rams.

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01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll kind of repeat what I said on Thursday,

1383
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 4: and I echoed what our guest, Jacob Gibbs of CBS

1384
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: had said on our Wide Receiver ranking show earlier in

1385
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 4: the week. So Jacob made the great point about Jalen Wattle,

1386
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 4: like he just sort of reiterating what an excellent player

1387
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 4: he is and that goes back to college, where he

1388
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 4: had the highest yards per out run in college of

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01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 4: any receiver since twenty twenty, which includes guys like Jamar

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 4: Chase and Ceedee Lamb. Wattle was good enough to be

1391
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 4: the number sixth overall pick in the draft, starts his

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 4: NFL career with three straight thousand yard seasons. So then

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: we get to this year in the Miami passing game

1394
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 4: was obviously completely broken for the four games that Tua

1395
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 4: was out, And of the four games that Tua has played,

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Speaker 4: two of them were against the Bills, who have one

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01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 4: of the lowest wide receiver target rates in the league

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01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 4: and basically just kind of take away outside receivers. So

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Speaker 4: and in one of the other Tua games, Jalen Waddle

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01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 4: had five catches for one hundred and nine yards. So

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01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 4: I like, don't overthink it. Jalen Waddle is really really good.

1402
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: If you have him, he should be in your lineup

1403
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: against a Rams defense that's given up the eighth most

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Speaker 4: fantasy points to receivers.

1405
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: De Bro, the way we talked you and me on

1406
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: this last year yesterday, I think you disagree.

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: I mean I disagree in the sense of, like I

1408
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of good context there. But the

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01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: other part about it is like this offense is running

1410
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: the same way that it ran last year. And I

1411
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: know we have a smaller snippet with Tua, but this

1412
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: offense has been running heavily through Tyreek Hill and that

1413
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: was the problem last year for Wattle. My my problems

1414
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 2: with Wattle have nothing to do with Wattle the player.

1415
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: Wattle is awesome. Every single per route metric that you

1416
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: look at, he is awesome. But the offense is not

1417
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: running through him. It's Tyreek Hill, It's Devon ah chan

1418
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: and John new Smith. They are the players that are

1419
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 2: getting the target chare and this is not just like

1420
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: so for me, it's if two is gonna throw it

1421
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: in his dang direction, then sure, I'm totally in on

1422
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: Jaal and Waddle like I've got him as a wide receiver. Three.

1423
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: I just that's my problem with it. Like I'm really

1424
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: high and the matchup is really good for John U

1425
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: Smith this week as well, and Devon ah Chan' is

1426
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: gonna get his target. So my problem with Wattle has

1427
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Wattle. It has everything to do

1428
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 2: with the composition of this offense. Now we could talk

1429
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 2: about the matchup some, but it's not like we didn't

1430
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: see this the entirety of in all of last season

1431
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: where Jalen Wattle was awesome in per route metrics, yards,

1432
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: per route run, everything, but he didn't get the target chair,

1433
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: he didn't get the first reach here. The targets went elsewhere.

1434
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: And that's just the composition of the offense. So like,

1435
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 2: I think he has the upside, but he is volatile,

1436
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: and he's a dice roll for me, Like I would

1437
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: not be. I would not feel good about starting Jayalen

1438
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: Wattle as a wide receiver. Two. You give me Jaylen

1439
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: Waddle as a high upside flex or a wide receiver three,

1440
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: and I'm just playing. I'm I'm playing him for the

1441
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: possible ceiling outcome. Sure, I'm all in, but as a

1442
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: floor option, heck no fits.

1443
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle is wide receiver twenty nine in ECR too

1444
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: high two low, just right.

1445
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: Too low.

1446
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 4: I've got wide receiver twenty four. He's never been a

1447
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: high volume guy, deebro. He's always operated at just remarkably

1448
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,440
Speaker 4: my efficiency.

1449
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: Well. Rookie season, the Jarvis Lander role was different.

1450
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, ye yeah yeah.

1451
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: Deepro wide receiver twenty nine two high two log just right,

1452
01:09:58,560 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: I've got him.

1453
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: Where is Jill and Waddle? I just moved him in

1454
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: my ranks. I've got him at twenty eight so I'm

1455
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: in that same area code.

1456
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: All right, We're up up there. Thank you everybody for

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: tuning in. Those were our week ten key questions. Best

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01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: of luck in week ten. Hopefully your week's ago as

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 1: well for you as they started off for me or

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Speaker 1: Fits and I discrease one. We're in there for Fits

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