WEBVTT - Second Date Update PODCAST: Engagement Factory

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<v Speaker 1>when you take a girl out on a first date,

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant choice is always important. Usually you try to find

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<v Speaker 1>some like quaint local eatery perfectly, a place that has

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<v Speaker 1>like organic foods, maybe some artisan cocktails, things like that

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<v Speaker 1>that are handcrafted by the bartender. Place where the chef

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and greets you and talks about the food.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, very classy places like that. And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what Mark did on his first date. His email said,

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<v Speaker 1>they took her to the cheesecake Factory. Shut up, good work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to get a reservation there, Mark, How did

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<v Speaker 1>you do it? It wasn't easy, but I had some

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<v Speaker 1>connections there. Yeah. Man, slide the host one hundred dollar

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<v Speaker 1>bill and they give you a seat right next to

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<v Speaker 1>the window where you can watch people carry their bags

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<v Speaker 1>from them all. That's right, that's right. It's very quick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. So why did you decide on the cheesecake factory? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we were on different sides of town, and we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out someplace that was between us that we

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<v Speaker 1>could meet at, and it was just really convenient. Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you like my high mashed potatoes to so many mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the one making fun of him for taking the

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<v Speaker 1>cheesecake factory, yet I know menu items from there. How

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<v Speaker 1>bad is that? Is that really a specific venue? It does?

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<v Speaker 1>It is my high mashed potatoes and it's delicious. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually the truth. They do it. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you know that, but yet I may have been there

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<v Speaker 1>a time or two. Going into this first date, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys both felt like you had honestly represented yourself before

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<v Speaker 1>you met in person. Yeah, I mean she looked like

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<v Speaker 1>her picture, which was good because I've definitely had bad

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<v Speaker 1>experiences in the past with that whole thing, like the

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<v Speaker 1>little angling of the picture thing, so you only see

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<v Speaker 1>the face and then she's got the body of like

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea the Giant. People are very good at taking pictures

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<v Speaker 1>to make themselves look way better than they actually look

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<v Speaker 1>in person, that's for sure. That's defolutely right. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was not the case with her. She actually looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the picture. She's very pretty, all right, that's exciting

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<v Speaker 1>and was she cool? I mean, obviously you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get a second date with her, so she had to

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<v Speaker 1>be cool, But like, what'd you like about her so much?

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<v Speaker 1>She was really funny. Actually we did a lot of laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I like a good sense of humor

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely is something that's essential to me. And she was

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<v Speaker 1>really fun And before I knew it, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner was over. Yeah, that'll happen. Sometimes you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a place and you're like, all right, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like a two hour dinner. Hopefully we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>for a while and you're like thirty minutes and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was quick? So now what do we do?

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you end everything at the restaurant? Then? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when it ended, you know, I wanted to spend some

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<v Speaker 1>more time with her, and since we were already the mall,

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<v Speaker 1>I just suggested we walk around the mall and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talk for a little while. Hey, I gotta pick up

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<v Speaker 1>some I gotta pick up some new undis and socks.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to roll with me to the Partner store

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<v Speaker 1>real quick? No, No, we didn't do that. We just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of we walked around. Was she was she cool?

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<v Speaker 1>At that. Yeah. Well, I mean it was cool in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, but then it did get a little weird

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<v Speaker 1>at one point. How so, well, there was a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a lull in the conversation and we happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be passing by a jewelry store, and I, in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind that had this impulsive idea of why don't I

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<v Speaker 1>just take her into this jewelry store and do something

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<v Speaker 1>really crazy? You know? So I followed that impulse and, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>buy her jewelry on your first date? No, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't buy her anything, but I did suggest that we

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<v Speaker 1>try on some rings. What are you kidding me? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you crazy? No? I don't know. I know it sounds bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. I wasn't thinking of it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be a fun thing, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>What was her reaction when you walk by the jewelry

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<v Speaker 1>store and you're like, hey, why don't we go in

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<v Speaker 1>there and trying some engagement rings? Well, she sort of

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<v Speaker 1>laughed uncomfortably, but she said yes because but at the

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<v Speaker 1>time I thought this because she was into it, But

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<v Speaker 1>she said yes to it. You guys actually went and

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<v Speaker 1>sized yourself for engagement rings. Well, I mean, she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>technically say yes to it. But but I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said it would be fun, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>drag her in. Oh, I would be out the door

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<v Speaker 1>in a heart beat. How long were you in the

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<v Speaker 1>store for? I don't know, like half an hour? Did

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<v Speaker 1>she did she okay? After the weirdness of it? Did

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<v Speaker 1>she seem to be enjoying herself? Um? Well, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I wanted to see it in retrospect. Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you realize how weird that could come off when

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing it? No? I mean, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>I kept saying, dre, you know, we're just pretending. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying that the whole time, for pretend, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just for fun. My heart starts beating faster just walking

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<v Speaker 1>by engagement rings when I was single? Is that all

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<v Speaker 1>you did? I mean? Did the date end after that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much it was. We sort of walked out of

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<v Speaker 1>them all after that and watched her to her a car,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gave her a little tech on the cheek

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<v Speaker 1>and a hug, you know, And I thought I did

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<v Speaker 1>my best, And I hope that she realized that. How

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<v Speaker 1>many times have you tried to get ahold of her?

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<v Speaker 1>Since you guys went out I've called her, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, two or three times. It's always gone straight

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<v Speaker 1>to voicemail. But I've texted her five times and she

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<v Speaker 1>responded to the first one. She hasn't responded since. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to clarify something. So you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>you did was strange to do on a first date.

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<v Speaker 1>You know now looking back now that she's hasn't responded

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and it might have been a little weird

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<v Speaker 1>for her. All right, Well, we'll play a song, come back,

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<v Speaker 1>call her and get your second date update. All right, great,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, hang on brooking jubile in the morning if

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<v Speaker 1>you're just tuning in for the second date update. Mark

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<v Speaker 1>is on the phone with us. He wants to call

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<v Speaker 1>a girl named Christina. Today. They met online, went out

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<v Speaker 1>on a date. Then Mark made the very sane decision

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<v Speaker 1>of taking her into a ring store to do some

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<v Speaker 1>engagement ring shopping on a first date, doesn't it. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>According to Mark, he knew that what he did was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, but in the moment it sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>a fun thing, like, Hey, let's just go in here

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<v Speaker 1>and check out some engagement rings. And now she's not

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<v Speaker 1>calling him back, all right, Mark you're about ready to

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<v Speaker 1>give her a call. Yeah, let's I think the mistake

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<v Speaker 1>you made was you didn't go all the way with it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Oh what you should have done is while

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<v Speaker 1>you were in the store, purchased a ring without her knowing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you walked her back to your car,

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<v Speaker 1>got down on one knee and said, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend the rest of my life with you, Christina. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's bad enough with it what I did. Please

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<v Speaker 1>don't make it worse. But by not proposing, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. You should have proposed go all the way

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Don't do it. Don't half asset mark. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to doll the phone number and get her

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone and find out what went wrong on

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<v Speaker 1>your dates, even though we already know probably what went wrong. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>can I speak to Christina please? This is Hers. Hey Christina,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? This is Jewil from Brook and Jewil

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<v Speaker 1>in the Morning. Sorry, who did you say you were?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoop business? It's a radio show, a morning show. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't catch that Whoop business again. It's Brooke and Jewil

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<v Speaker 1>in the Morning. It's a morning radio program. You can

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<v Speaker 1>hear it in your car on the way to work

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Okay, you clearly don't listen, right, Are you

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<v Speaker 1>still talking about the radio thing? Yes? I am here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain for a second. All right, we host

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<v Speaker 1>a morning radio show. One of our listeners actually emailed

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<v Speaker 1>us to try to get you on the phone. His

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<v Speaker 1>name is Mark, and you recently went out on a

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<v Speaker 1>date with Mark. Yeah. I'm not calling him back, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Yeah, that's the whole reason that he emailed us.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Hey, I met this really cool girl named Christina.

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<v Speaker 1>We went out on a day and had fun, but

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<v Speaker 1>now she won't respond to my phone calls. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to us for a second about your date with Mark?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, I'm pretty busy. I promise this won't take

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<v Speaker 1>up much of your time. I just really, all I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you about is him taking you to

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<v Speaker 1>the jewelry store on a first date to look at

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<v Speaker 1>engagement rings. Oh man, you wow? He told you about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he did, and he actually admits that he knows

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of an awkward move. Yeah, awkward is

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<v Speaker 1>an understatement. Oh. I would have freaked out if I

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<v Speaker 1>were you. Honestly, it was just such a strange suggestion,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just thought he was kidding. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>why did you go along with it? I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to see mean, he did seem like a

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<v Speaker 1>nice guy. It just seems like a very strange thing

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<v Speaker 1>to request. Okay, so that's why you're not calling him

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<v Speaker 1>back because he took you engagement ring shopping on a

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<v Speaker 1>first date. I mean, yeah, there's a little more to

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<v Speaker 1>the story, but that's basically the main reason. Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the more. Well, he pulled me in. I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>seemed apprehensive enough, but he like seemed very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>go in. And while we were there, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that this spur of the moment or deal wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as spur of the moment as he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it seem. What do you mean by that? I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like he planned it. One of the girls when

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<v Speaker 1>we came in called him by his name. Shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew his first name, like, welcome to the store. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, hi, Mark, good to see you, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is his first date. Move While we were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a lot of jewelry, and when he went to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the store, I leaned in and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the woman, I'm like, hey, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know him, and she said to me, yeah, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>in here a few times, like with other girls. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to ask because he was on his way back.

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<v Speaker 1>But was she given me like the look like you

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<v Speaker 1>need to get out, like w this is weird or

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<v Speaker 1>he's just shopping by himself. And she didn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>think anything was abnormal neither one. It just it was

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<v Speaker 1>weird that she even said that he had been in

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<v Speaker 1>there a few times. Yeah, hey, does he have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of jewelry? I mean maybe a shopping for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't notice too much jewelry. Okay, so he's not

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<v Speaker 1>like a dude with like big watches and pinky rings everywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, no, No, did you ask him about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ask him like, hey, have you been here before?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how to, and I just figured this

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<v Speaker 1>was his go to date kind of thing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>kept thinking, like, why why would you want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>a girl engagement ring shopping on your first date? How

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<v Speaker 1>could that be your go to move? How could that

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<v Speaker 1>be your first instinct? I don't get it. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask him about that? I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>ask him if that's his move. No, I'd rather let

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<v Speaker 1>it go. Well, I can't let it go, Christina, And

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to ask him because he's actually on

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<v Speaker 1>the other line listening right now. Are you are you serious? Yeah? Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and say hi, Okay, let me explain. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds really bad, but there's an explanation. I

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<v Speaker 1>swear it's not what you think. So this isn't Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the explanation. This isn't your first date move, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not my first date move. I swear with with you, Christina,

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<v Speaker 1>that was an impulsive move. That is not my go

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<v Speaker 1>to move the girl first. Same, She says, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in there a few times. Explain that I understand. I understand. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in there a few times. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in there with other girls. But but what I have

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in there with two other girls. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain. It's it's legitimate. I was actually engaged

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<v Speaker 1>to both of them. What you've been engaged twice in

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<v Speaker 1>the recent past. Yes, I was engaged twice and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and both times we went to that sort of shop

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<v Speaker 1>for ring Why would you ever go in there? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Mark heard, you know, I don't know, but what I

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<v Speaker 1>think probably happened. Is that, you know, I was nervous

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<v Speaker 1>because there was a law in the conversation and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a familiar place, and I thought, well, this could

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<v Speaker 1>be fun, you know, we this could be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at some place that I that I had some good

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<v Speaker 1>memories in and maybe when you want and the sales

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<v Speaker 1>lady knew your name, didn't you know, Like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the biggest mistake I've ever made. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to leave immediately. I didn't even hear her say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I I mean, obviously she said it because Christina heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I didn't. I swear, I didn't even hear

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<v Speaker 1>her say that. I didn't know she knew my name.

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<v Speaker 1>So have you been married before? Like what You've just

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<v Speaker 1>been engaged twice? Was that recently? It was the last one? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>was was fairly recent before I met you online. It

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<v Speaker 1>was before I met you online. But but yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>never got married though, and we never never happened. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was both the engagements ended and uh, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was never you know, I never lied to

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<v Speaker 1>you or held it back from you when we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking online. It just never came up. I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And you take me to the same exact store that

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<v Speaker 1>you got their rings. You thought that was okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting nervous because there was a lot in the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and I just pulled you in there because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to shake things up a little bit and get

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<v Speaker 1>things going. And I realized it wasn't a great choice

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<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, But I swear like there was no There

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<v Speaker 1>was a million other things we could have done at

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<v Speaker 1>the mall because for engagement rings, million other things, you

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of options. Mark, But we were in

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<v Speaker 1>front of that store when we were that's true. But

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<v Speaker 1>you could have walked three feet to another store or

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<v Speaker 1>up to the food court and got some frozen yogurt.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a lot of stuff you could have done.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I mean, I know, I realized it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was stupid. I wasn't thinking, but that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I have no I you know it

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<v Speaker 1>was stupid. Are you sure, Mark? Are you sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to be dating right now? Yeah? Yes, I am sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd like to go on another day with Christina? Okay, cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask her then, Christina, would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with Mark again? I will pay for a

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<v Speaker 1>second date. I mean, my gut is telling me no. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what everybody says, don't listen to your gut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the opposite, right, Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so my gut, my gut tells me no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not no. I mean, I just I can't. It

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<v Speaker 1>was all really strange. I told too many people about

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<v Speaker 1>that story. I can't go out with that dude. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're sure you have the you have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>be Mark's next ex fiance. Come on, man, don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>say it like that. It makes me look it makes

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<v Speaker 1>me sound like a weird though. I mean, all I

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<v Speaker 1>did is take a girl into a ring shop on

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<v Speaker 1>the first dag. Just say what you said again and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that's not weird. Broken Jupil in the morning.