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Speaker 2: All right, team, welcome to the Buck Brief. We've got
Speaker 2: a special guest this episode. Our friend Ben Ferguson is
Speaker 2: in the House of the Ben Ferguson Show. You should
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Speaker 2: He's a man who knows his way around the barbecue pit.
Speaker 2: Ferguson honored to have you back on the program.
Speaker 1: Good to see it, brother, How you been.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good man. Florida's making me soft, but it
Speaker 2: is warm here and I like it.
Speaker 1: So hey, you can shit a lot more guns in
Speaker 1: Florida than you can in New York City.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to get my SBR paperwork done
Speaker 2: next week. I've already got a can, I've already got
Speaker 2: a silencer. I'm loving the Florida life, my friend.
Speaker 1: It's hash tag America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, although I don't. I don't get to the beach
Speaker 2: as much as I thought I would. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I burn. I'm like Irish by background,
Speaker 2: so I don't anyway enough of that. Tell me what's
Speaker 2: going on here. I want to throw some big concepts
Speaker 2: out to you. Right now, we're weeks away from Iowa caucuses.
Speaker 2: Trump's up forty points or what I mean, He's a
Speaker 2: prohibitive favor by at least the polls. Is this thing
Speaker 2: in your mind? Is the meaning the Republican primer is
Speaker 2: there already over? Or are you still holding out the
Speaker 2: possibility there could be some big surprises.
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's pretty much over.
Speaker 3: I think if there's any big surprise at this point,
Speaker 3: it would probably be Nicki Haley. The money that's coming in,
Speaker 3: and Nicky Haley is significant the Republican establishment that the
Speaker 3: neocons are clearly behind her.
Speaker 1: She's a woman that obviously is pro war.
Speaker 3: She'd love to be in a war I think in
Speaker 3: the Middle East and being a war with Russia at
Speaker 3: the same time, which concerns me. But this is good
Speaker 3: for a lot of people's business if that's going on.
Speaker 3: And look, they're treating her like she's Jeb Bush or
Speaker 3: Mitt Romney, the list goes on and on. They want
Speaker 3: somebody that's pout up on Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina.
Speaker 3: She obviously, as I think a strategy to do well
Speaker 3: in those And look, if you're Rn de Santis, who's
Speaker 3: been one hell of a governor in Florida, you're hoping
Speaker 3: you can at least come in second. I think at
Speaker 3: this point in Iowa there is a chance a third.
Speaker 3: New Hampshire does not look good for him. So can
Speaker 3: he survive to South Carolina financially with donors? That's his
Speaker 3: biggest struggle. But it's still Donald Trump's I mean, it's
Speaker 3: Trump's party. Every indictment seems to solidify the base behind him.
Speaker 3: I don't know why so many people are trying to
Speaker 3: act like it's not his party, and I don't think
Speaker 3: anyone gives a crap about these indictments. They feel like
Speaker 3: it's election interference. They're more hell bent on voting for
Speaker 3: him than ever before, and that makes it in many ways,
Speaker 3: I think impossible to run a campaign against him. I mean,
Speaker 3: if I'm DeSantis right now, who's a Look, you know, Ron,
Speaker 3: he's a brilliant guy. He's done unbelievable things for the
Speaker 3: state of Florida. But how do you distinguish yourself from
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. I don't know if any candidate they could
Speaker 3: pull it off to be honest with you with what
Speaker 3: we're right now and the abusive power against Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to say this to my audience all
Speaker 2: the time. I mean, I I love Trump, I love
Speaker 2: the Santas. I have a lot of respect for you know,
Speaker 2: Vivek for what he's been able to do. I don't
Speaker 2: always you know, I don't always agree with he's approach.
Speaker 2: I he says things, but you know those are guys who,
Speaker 2: when push comes to shove, they're all on my team,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm on their team. You
Speaker 2: know Nikki Haley, look she's a Republican, but you know,
Speaker 2: with some of the war stuff, we'll talk Ukraine funding
Speaker 2: here in a minute. That stuff, I start to get
Speaker 2: a little reminds me a little too much of Lindsey
Speaker 2: Graham actually on the you know, never seen a war.
Speaker 2: He didn't want somebody else's children to go fight. And
Speaker 2: then Chris Christie, look, I respect the old Chris Christie.
Speaker 2: I just feel like the new Chris Christie is just
Speaker 2: doing this to get you know, get love on MSNBC.
Speaker 1: So it's an audition for MSNBC. Let's call it what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: He's auditioning for his next job, and it ain't in
Speaker 3: the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think you when I see this is
Speaker 2: the same way I can like more than one Republican right,
Speaker 2: and maybe we all have to pick one sure for
Speaker 2: the primary eventually when we vote. But you know, I'm
Speaker 2: voting for DeSantis or I'm voting for Trump doesn't mean
Speaker 2: I hate the other guy. It just means in this case,
Speaker 2: I think I can still think they're both great. I
Speaker 2: try to tell people this, and a lot of folks
Speaker 2: are on board with that, but some people are, no,
Speaker 2: you know, he's d sanctimonious, or no, you know Trump
Speaker 2: is a you know, he can't win anyway. I feel
Speaker 2: like people get overheated about that, but it's a primary
Speaker 2: that will pass. Here's the thing, though, and I want
Speaker 2: you to answer this question, but I'm I'm gonna want
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Speaker 2: that's a sacrilege. I can't allow that. All right, right,
Speaker 2: explain the important things to us for a second here, Ben, Uh,
Speaker 2: the Trump trap?
Speaker 1: Is it real?
Speaker 2: Do you worry about it?
Speaker 1: No? I don't. I really don't. And here's why. I
Speaker 1: think that voters know that this is a witch hunt.
Speaker 1: I think it's obvious.
Speaker 3: Just look at the latest information that came out from
Speaker 3: the Special prosecutor apparently going through Donald Trump's text messages
Speaker 3: and his tweets and the tweets that he didn't even
Speaker 3: send in his DMS while he was sitting president of
Speaker 3: the United States of America that just came out about
Speaker 3: Jack Smith. And when people see that, they understand this
Speaker 3: is a witch hunt. This is what Marxists do, Socialists do,
Speaker 3: and communists due to their opponents.
Speaker 1: And I'm not worried about this.
Speaker 3: I also think the general election poll numbers that have
Speaker 3: been coming out show you just how big of a
Speaker 3: suck Joe Biden is going to be on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 3: What worries me the most, buck is the idea that
Speaker 3: they can replace at the convention Joe Biden, because it's
Speaker 3: obvious if you look at this polling down it they
Speaker 3: need to get rid of him. They want to get
Speaker 3: rid of him. How do you offload his sitting president
Speaker 3: of the United States of America. I think with these
Speaker 3: new indictments against Hunter Biden, I think they Democrats may say, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's just kind of lay off this and let them
Speaker 3: do their thing. That could hurt him obviously if you
Speaker 3: then decide to pardon him. But I think the biggest
Speaker 3: concern I have is you bring in somebody the last
Speaker 3: moment at the Democratic convention to take the place of
Speaker 3: Joe Biden. You bring in whether it's Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 3: which I don't know if you saw yesterday they're talking
Speaker 3: about Hillary Clinton taking like a full campaign schedule coming
Speaker 3: up for Joe Biden. What the hell's that about? And
Speaker 3: that's not normal by the way, Obama they're saying it's
Speaker 3: going to work a tough schedule for him on the
Speaker 3: campaign trail as well. Michelle Obama as well. Democrats are
Speaker 3: not happy with Joe Biden as their leader. They realize
Speaker 3: it could destroy them down ticket. The House, the Senator
Speaker 3: obviously up for grabs. The sex election they favor. By
Speaker 3: the way, Democrats, if you look at the electoral map
Speaker 3: we had the last time at favored Republicans and we
Speaker 3: screwed that up.
Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about.
Speaker 3: This idea that Donald Trump's a disaster and in general election,
Speaker 3: I think they.
Speaker 1: Are more worried about Joe Biden than I would be
Speaker 1: if I was him as well.
Speaker 2: So you think, what when you see these polls that
Speaker 2: suggest because we know right now Trump is crushing the well,
Speaker 2: obviously he's crushing the Republican primary opponents, but even in
Speaker 2: a general election in the swing states, which I think
Speaker 2: that's important, the national.
Speaker 1: Poll Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, absolutely.
Speaker 2: You know, but they're like, oh, it's fifty one. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't care about that. We care about the swing
Speaker 2: states because that's what's going to determine the election. Trump
Speaker 2: is crushing Biden those swing states right now. But then
Speaker 2: what should we make of this? Is this just because
Speaker 2: they haven't turned the heat on and the propaganda machinery
Speaker 2: of the Democrats isn't in full swing yet, or do
Speaker 2: you think we're really in this positions it's Trump's to lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's real.
Speaker 3: I think it's the economy stupid line, coming back to
Speaker 3: reality yet again. And look in a lot of these
Speaker 3: states where they had these COVID lockdowns and there was
Speaker 3: fear going into the last presidential they're now seeing what
Speaker 3: their governments did to them and the rights they took
Speaker 3: away from them. And they're also seeing the disastrous points
Speaker 3: of sending out COVID funds and all this quote free money,
Speaker 3: stay home, don't work, and we'll pay you more. Well, now,
Speaker 3: look at inflation, look at home ownership. I mean just
Speaker 3: yesterday there was an article came out that now says
Speaker 3: among young people, seventy percent of younger Americans and young
Speaker 3: newlyweds say they cannot afford to buy a home now
Speaker 3: because of interest rates and the housing prices.
Speaker 1: So that is a real voting block.
Speaker 3: And I also think Biden really screwed up and the
Speaker 3: Democrats for short term, short term gain of winning the
Speaker 3: last election promising everyone and they were going to get
Speaker 3: rid of their student loan debt, and they knew that
Speaker 3: they couldn't do it, they knew it was unconstitutional, they
Speaker 3: knew they were lying to voters when they did it.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of really hacked off younger people that
Speaker 3: truly believe they were going to get eighty grand or
Speaker 3: fifty grand, or with a couple one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: grand of this debt that just would disappear because Joe
Speaker 3: Biden the Democrats that they could do it, So that's also
Speaker 3: coming back to haunt them as well. But the basic
Speaker 3: costs of goods and services. This is why Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: I think, was so popular the first time. And I
Speaker 3: think if Donald Trump is smart, loof you and I
Speaker 3: could run his campaign, you'd look at him. You and
Speaker 3: I would agree one hundred percent, we say, President Trump,
Speaker 3: just talk about the economy. Just talk about what things
Speaker 3: cost now to compare to when you were in office.
Speaker 3: Stick to the basics. Don't go back and regurgitate the past.
Speaker 3: Don't argue about if the last selection was stolen. Just
Speaker 3: stick to the current present day and compare it to
Speaker 3: the past. With the open border, and you'll win this
Speaker 3: damn thing. The real question is can he discipline himself
Speaker 3: enough to do that. Democrats are betting on he won't
Speaker 3: be able to be disciplined enough. He'll take the questions
Speaker 3: from the zoo gallery and the media and he'll go
Speaker 3: back and relitigate the pass and that's where he ends
Speaker 3: up losing the thing.
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Speaker 2: next one, next one up here for you. You talked
Speaker 2: about this a little bit, the Biden situation. Okay, everyone's
Speaker 2: discussing this, and I hear all these different theories. You
Speaker 2: mentioned the possibility of a last minute candidate. But why
Speaker 2: do you think that they're not just going to go
Speaker 2: with Biden to the very end and figure that the
Speaker 2: Trump indictments will sink him? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: is that their plan or do you think they just
Speaker 2: have a totally different plan.
Speaker 3: I think they're in this this world of unknown right now,
Speaker 3: and I think they're trying to figure out can we
Speaker 3: get rid of a guy this close to the election,
Speaker 3: and if we do, how do we offload him? And
Speaker 3: do we allow the Biden crime family and the issues
Speaker 3: and the protections that they've been given by the deep
Speaker 3: state to basically say, Okay, we'll let the gloves come
Speaker 3: off and you guys do your thing. And that's how
Speaker 3: they sink him. And look, it's an issue of connectability
Speaker 3: the majority of America right now. I don't and it's
Speaker 3: not my opinion, it's now the polling data shows they
Speaker 3: believe that he is not there and can't handle the
Speaker 3: job at his age. And I don't even think it's
Speaker 3: an age issue. I think it's cognitive decline. I said
Speaker 3: this the other day when I was on Fox. I said, look,
Speaker 3: go watch a speech of Joe Biden from twenty fifteen
Speaker 3: when he was you know, and then go and look
Speaker 3: at his speech from twenty eighteen, and then twenty twenty
Speaker 3: and then today, and what you will find is that
Speaker 3: it is a massive cognitive decline. And you can't hide
Speaker 3: that from the American people. The American people know that
Speaker 3: this is a problem.
Speaker 1: They know it now.
Speaker 2: If you had to tell me right now whether or
Speaker 2: not they're just going to go around Kamala or they're
Speaker 2: going to try to prop up Kamala in some capacity
Speaker 2: and give it to her if Biden can't be the guy.
Speaker 1: With no chance in hell? You no chance in hell chance?
Speaker 2: You think no chance? Called talk me through that because
Speaker 2: to me, look we saw it does happen at Harvard, right,
Speaker 2: black female president of Harvard unfireable. She's unfirerable. That's what
Speaker 2: we've learned. Kamala Harris to me, Okay, they're not trying
Speaker 2: to fire her, but to go around her as the
Speaker 2: vice president here. How does the Democrat Identity Politics coalition
Speaker 2: not fracture itself if they just move her to the side.
Speaker 1: Replace her with Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think at the convention and the convention
Speaker 3: you can do this. Right at the Democratic Convention, you
Speaker 3: can replace a candidate and the delegates could do it,
Speaker 3: and then she would only have to run a three
Speaker 3: month campaign, really two and a half months if you
Speaker 3: look at the actual dates there.
Speaker 1: You could do that. I also think of Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 3: You could say, okay, we want that one, and it
Speaker 3: doesn't look like you're offloading her. It just looks like
Speaker 3: you're replacing. You can even keep her as the vice
Speaker 3: president on the ticket, so there'd be some sort of
Speaker 3: continuity from the past administration to this one, and so
Speaker 3: it's not so radical, right, And I think that's how
Speaker 3: they would probably do that, say hey, well keep her
Speaker 3: as the VP. She'll stay there, but there's no chance
Speaker 3: of running her as the president where she has what
Speaker 3: three percent in the polls when she was in a
Speaker 3: Democratic primary. She was chosen because she was filling a void.
Speaker 3: He had a problem as people thinking he was a racist.
Speaker 3: Kamala Harrison basically called him a racist with the bussing
Speaker 3: issues when they were in the president of debate. If
Speaker 3: you remember so, they said, Hey, we need an African
Speaker 3: American female. She fits it. Joe Biden won't be called
Speaker 3: a racist anymore. We fix that problem. We're done, and
Speaker 3: I think they're it the same way.
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Speaker 1: All right? So number one patience.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't understand that to make great barbecue,
Speaker 3: you need to take your time. If you don't have
Speaker 3: hours on end minimum four hours with ribs, it's going
Speaker 3: to take you about eight to twelve hours depending on
Speaker 3: the size of a brisket or a shoulder. You gotta
Speaker 3: have time, and if you rush it, it's not gonna
Speaker 3: be near as good. That's how you get the flavor
Speaker 3: out of it. And number two with sauce. By the way,
Speaker 3: the other thing is the the rap matters. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: cbo that wrap things after a few hours on smoke
Speaker 3: and in aluminum foil.
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
Speaker 3: Go on Amazon get you some red butcher paper unwax.
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's a disaster and you wrap it because it
Speaker 3: still breathe, but it keeps the moisture in h in your.
Speaker 1: Brisket or in your in your shoulder. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: I wrap my ribs actually at the end and that's
Speaker 3: how you get those fall off the bone ribs. But
Speaker 3: also with a really really good smoke flavor. So that's
Speaker 3: that's the second part of that, i'd say. And then
Speaker 3: finally with a sauce. Look, there's a lot of bases
Speaker 3: out there you can find on the internet. You got
Speaker 3: to really find like fine tune it to what you want.
Speaker 3: And when you're making your sauce, you do not want
Speaker 3: to boil your sauce. You'll it totally changes the flavor profile.
Speaker 3: So simmer in your sauce and constantly simmering and whipping
Speaker 3: your sauce.
Speaker 1: And look, you can have some cool things. I did.
Speaker 3: I did the other day brisket tacos, and I did
Speaker 3: a sauce with some lime juice in it and some
Speaker 3: and some cilantro I added in as well, and then
Speaker 3: I had some cumin with a barbie base.
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. I was mad at myself because I
Speaker 1: didn't write down the recipe.
Speaker 3: I was just kind of playing with it and go
Speaker 3: and so I tell people this, if you're going to
Speaker 3: do barbecue, don't do it under pressure of a timestamp.
Speaker 3: Take your time. Last thing I'll say is I see
Speaker 3: it happen all the time. And as a barbecue you know,
Speaker 3: restaurant owner. People grab barbecue, they pull it off right
Speaker 3: when it's ready for dinner. If you're doing that, you're wrong.
Speaker 3: Don't do that, whether it's chicken, brisket, sausage, pork.
Speaker 1: I take it and then I.
Speaker 3: Throw it in a cooler with a towel, and I
Speaker 3: let it slowly kind of cool off a little bit
Speaker 3: before I serve for at least an hour and a
Speaker 3: half to two hours before dinner. It will be fall
Speaker 3: off the bone. I'm the best barbecue of your life.
Speaker 3: And again, don't rush it. Don't rush your sauces, and
Speaker 3: you can be a pro in no time.
Speaker 2: Check out the Ben Ferguson Show. Everybody can subscribe to
Speaker 2: the podcast. My friend, Ben, you're gonna come to Miami
Speaker 2: this I'm ready in this winter and you and I
Speaker 2: are going to eat barbecue. We're gonna play some tennis.
Speaker 1: Love it are you? Are you working on your game?
Speaker 2: Working all my games on? I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 2: free lesson.
Speaker 1: I love this. Now the loser, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: put something.
Speaker 3: Real on the line here because I have I have
Speaker 3: literally this much concern and you're gonna beat me.
Speaker 1: I might even spot you games.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, dude, you are delusional and I love it,
Speaker 2: and you are underestimating the buckster. Man. I'm from I'm
Speaker 2: from the Northeast. You know I went to private schools.
Speaker 2: Paddle sports is in my blood. This is what we do,
Speaker 2: this is all we do.
Speaker 1: You be a guy that's gonna be really good at
Speaker 1: pick a ball when you're seventy. I can just find
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you should see me on the pig pong court. Anyway,
Speaker 2: the tennis gauntlet has been thrown down. Mister Ben Ferguson
Speaker 2: will have updates for everybody on how that goes. But
Speaker 2: check out Ben show and my friend. If I don't
Speaker 2: talk to you before, I have a great Christmas for
Speaker 2: you and your family, and I'll talk to you the
Speaker 2: new year.
Speaker 1: Hey, Mary, Christmas to you and everybody. Listen, you guys,
Speaker 1: have a great one.