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Speaker 2: We just went with the players that we we really

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Speaker 2: felt really good about these guys, really good football players,

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Speaker 2: starting with Malick today. Just loved the way he plays

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Speaker 2: You know, one of our favorite interviews, one of my

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Speaker 3: Now I played a one of these hybrid positions. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he called that position the panther at

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Speaker 4: He's obviously had players that he's valued, like Derwin James

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Speaker 5: But when he talks about consensus and everybody, like, there

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Speaker 6: Like him through through it. What was it like without

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Speaker 2: So you move forward, and we're will always be appreciative

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Speaker 4: But you don't just add that just to add it.

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Speaker 5: For his lack of size, he makes up with mentality

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Speaker 7: Ways guys with a special teams experience today. Just does

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Speaker 7: the new kickoff rules change the traits you're looking for

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Speaker 2: You don't change your whole entire mentality. We think we

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's hard to say there's a lot more.

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Speaker 5: And you got to look at it a different levels

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're always making, you know, really important decisions,

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Speaker 4: We did it through the draft as good as we can.

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Speaker 7: Assuming you guys may be able to offensive tackles and

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Speaker 4: We're glad to add to alignment in the draft. Would

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Speaker 4: That, yeah yet, so you know, we like guys to

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Speaker 7: Kingston was saying his last year at USC kind of

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Speaker 5: Their stories as long as they understand they can't transfer here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the first practice doesn't go right.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't a great story because they're just it's i mean,

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Speaker 4: So it's it's that doesn't get old.

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Speaker 2: Each of them. I mean, these calls are so cool,

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