WEBVTT - Patriot Front's Idaho UHaul Adventure 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:11.560 Oh boy, it could happen here the podcast about it 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:19.000 and and happening and could Chris take us away? I'm 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.320 taking it away, Oh boy, I I think I promised 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.320 to um. So uh, this is this has been a 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.040 fun week so far. We're all kind of sitting through 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.240 that in that awkward period where we know the Supreme 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.640 Court is about to do some ship with Roe v. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.000 Wade and that that's gonna light a whole bunch of 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.839 stuff on fire. Um, And so we're all waiting for that, 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:46.080 and we're all waiting for the big Pride Month demonstrations 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.680 in the wake of a shipload of um threats from 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.479 the right. Uh. And kind of in that awkward interstital period, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.680 we got this this little burst this weekend of of 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:03.040 of happiness, of just of pure joy. Um. So obviously 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.440 we had covered a little earlier the Gundaleine rally and 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.800 Quarterline Idaho, which was a right wing kind of counter 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:15.960 rally to quarter Aline's regular local pride Um rally. Uh. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.800 And you know it was a an event that the 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.679 the the the p R four ahead of time was 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.120 deeply unsettling or a lot of like threats and talk 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.520 about you know, let the fight start here and all 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.679 that stuff. A lot of people were worried about a massacre, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.240 including us, because when you have a bunch of right 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.000 wingers saying that anyone queer is grooming kids and it's 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.000 time to shoot them, it's reasonable to be worried about 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.200 a massacre. Um. Now, what we did see on the day, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.959 and this is something you'll note a lot of times 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.120 when you get the events where there's a lot of 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.440 threats around them, that's what kind of provokes enough attention, 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.520 um and enough of a state response that that it's 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.919 not where people try to ship. You know, it's often 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.520 kind of at the edges of events or the events 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.960 that uh, people don't take seriously enough ahead of time 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.040 that like things go to ship. You know. Charlottesville would 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.720 be a great example because prior to Charlottesville, there was 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.120 a lot of like discussion about how big it was 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.440 going to be in the city, you know, did not 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.440 really take it seriously. There were a number of and 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.040 this is one of the things that's frustrating the fucking 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:24.240 mayor of Charlotte'sville is after what happened in Quarterline and stuff, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.480 has been like on the news talking to people about 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.240 how to how to avoid demonstrations going badly and ship 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.280 which like that. You know, he received a lot of 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.720 warnings from anti fascists about how many people with you know, 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.400 pending violent charges were going to be at Unite the 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.480 Right in Charlottesville, and how many threats were going on. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.639 It was kind of ignored and as a result it 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.360 got really fucking ugly, UM, because you know, you had 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.520 smaller numbers is on the on the first night, you know, 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.320 when people got surrounded by that torchlit mob, you had 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:59.440 smaller numbers of anti fascists, um, outnumbered by fascists, and uh, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.600 no real counter to them until you know, the next day, 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.000 and obviously that's the day that that that James Alex 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.240 Fields drove a car into a crowd. UM. And that 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.680 kind of starts our story today because the thing that 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.680 was the bright ray of sunlight in in the midst 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.480 of what has been a pretty rough couple of weeks 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.839 news wise, was thirty one members of the hate group 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.360 Patriot Front getting arrested in Quarterline, Idaho, jammed into the 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.919 back of a U haul. Um. The story of Patriot 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.119 Front and the story of how that that beautiful moment happened, UM, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:36.279 starts in Charlottesville in two seventeen. Actually it starts significantly 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.840 before that in Texas. But uh, the group that becomes 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:44.240 Patriot Front starts as a group called Vanguard America UM. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.840 And Vanguard America is one of the groups that is 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.160 responsible for kind of carrying out the the Unite the 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.800 Right rally. And this is this is a different group 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:58.360 than American Vanguard. Right. Uh wait, let me double check here, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.440 because sorry, they all use such similar names. UM. If 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.920 I'm not mistaken, there is an American Vanguard. UM. There's 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:11.120 also the American Vanguard Corporation. Uh no, no, no, I 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.960 think it's UM. American Guard. American Guard is the group 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:20.160 that UM isn't a kind of more coming out of 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.040 the KKK's sphere orbit because some of them are former clansmen. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.520 That's another story for another day. UM. So you've got 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.839 Vanguard America. They're one of the group's kind of behind 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.880 bringing a lot of people, a lot of fascists, shouldn't 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.039 call them people to UM Charlottesville in two thousand and seventeen, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.480 James alex Field is marching with them and carrying one 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.839 of their shields. Earlier in the day before he carries 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.560 out his car attack, and as a result of the 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.640 bad press that him murdering a woman in in maiming 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.599 a bunch of people with his car in a terrorist 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:55.440 attack brings down Um. The leader of Vanguard America, Thomas 0:04:55.520 --> 0:05:00.279 Rousseau uh splits off like kind of inns Van Guard 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.080 America and spins it off into Patriot Front, which is 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:10.120 less explicitly just as fascist, but less branded as fascist, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.960 more kind of branded in Americana. They all of their 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.599 pr and all of their like images look like rejected 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:23.240 stills from a bioshot game. Yeah, it's it's it's pretty amazing. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.000 I'm pretty sure. Yeah, these are the guys are like 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.240 that there there's a video of them like talking like 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.760 like like they're literally they go like on camera it's like, 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.240 oh yeah, we're doing America stuff. We don't we're not 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.040 hitler people. And then like the build the boat with 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.760 the camera turns off there like oh good, the camera's off. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.360 We can say say kale now, Yeah, it's it's great. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.479 I mean Van Guard America's logo was literally like an 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:50.320 eagle carrying a bundle of fascis. Yeah, they're not not subtle, um, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.480 and I should say Van Guard America. I think was 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.200 actually founded by another guy in in California, but um, 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:01.120 Thomas Rousseau was was pretty quickly prominence in there, and 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.359 he splinters off into into Patriot Front. I need to 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.080 be specific because there's people listening who will yell at 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.640 me forgetting that wrong. Um. So, for the purpose of 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.360 of what we're talking about today, if we should chat 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.600 about Thomas Rousseau um before we get into some of 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.560 the funnier stuff, because he's got a really interesting background 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.000 for a fascist. So in the last couple of years 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.839 since Patriot Front became a thing, Rousseau has held a 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.440 number of kind of like flash demonstrations where they'll get 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.040 a few dozen Patriot Front guys together and they'll march 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:35.320 around in their fucking gators, in their their little fascist 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.800 uniforms that are like, um, I don't know, they look 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.880 like country club Nazis, is like the way they prefer 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.080 to dress. Um, And they'll carry their shields and they'll 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.760 you know, film propaganda videos. Most of what they do 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.280 is hand out like put out stickers, put out other 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.120 kinds of propaganda to the extent that like they are 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:00.839 probably the primary national purveyors of of Nazi propping anda 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.640 um in like the real world, like in terms of 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:08.440 stuff that actually gets put out where people can see it. Um. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.560 There I've found like stickers from them and just like 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.400 random places in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, I've seen a couple 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.800 of them. Like two nineteen, Patriot Front was and this 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.720 is the A d l S estimates, so they're not 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.280 the most accurate they could be, but also no one 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.400 else is really keeping track of this, so I'll say 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.920 they're probably broadly correct. Um. The in twos nineteen, the 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.120 A d L listed Patriot Front is responsible for eight 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:37.400 percent of all propaganda incidents nationally of like Nazi type groups. Um. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.680 And then in that number doubled um and they were 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.320 responsible for like ninety plus. I think sometimes you'll hear 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:49.280 ninety two of like the Nazi propaganda distributed nationwide. UM. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:54.120 They're propaganda efforts are most active in Texas, Washington, California, Massachusetts, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.360 New York, and Virginia. UM. And it's one of those things. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.640 This is not the goal with the propaganda is for 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.440 them to be seen as very large and influential. The 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.440 way that they managed to do it is that Patriot 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.560 Front is effectively like a key para social relationship for 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.960 most of the people in it, right, it's a series 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.400 of like chats and and and discords and whatnot, and 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.240 these people like come to feel like it's their community. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:22.880 And one of the things Rusto did that was very 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.960 smart is if you want to stay a member of 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.880 Patriot Front, you will get banned and purged from the 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.720 organization if you are not regularly posting proof that you're 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.800 active in the real world. And the easiest way to 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.240 do that is by putting up stickers. Right. So that's 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.520 not only how they fund some of their operations, because 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.520 you know their guys are buying stickers, but um, that's 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.520 how you keep people engaged. If you want to like 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.800 stay in the clubhouse with your friends, you have to 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.240 go put up stickers every couple of weeks or every 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.559 so often. And you know, when you have a couple 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.600 of hundred people doing that. Stickers are not that expensive. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.360 You can get a lot of propaganda out that way. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.840 And so Rousseau has been very successful in in that 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:12.120 end of things. So let's chat about him a little bit. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:16.040 He is he was born in nine so he's twenty 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.719 four ish right now. Um, he grew up where I did. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.160 He comes from the suburbs of Dallas, the metroplex specifically Kapel. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.160 And if you're not if you don't know much about 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:31.160 the d f W suburbs. So Dallas sizeable city about 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.800 four million people last I checked, um, and then you've 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.800 got these these suburbs that are millions more and it's 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.240 it's effectively DFW is kind of this megalopolis, Like it's 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:44.400 this massive, sprawling city, larger than several states, and it's 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.600 geographical area. At some point in the future, assuming growth continues, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.840 you're going to see like all of the big cities 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:55.480 in Texas merge and when they're metro plexus start to mingle. Um. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.600 But these these these Texas suburbs are all laid out 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.400 very orderly and kids they were all they're all like 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:06.800 planned communities, um. And in the area around like this 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:11.199 particular chunk around Dallas, they're all pretty wealthy. And of 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:16.400 these wealthy suburbs, Coppel is like where the money money is. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.600 Like like coming up in plan Oh, which is was 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.640 a fairly well off suburb, we would like the Copell 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.760 kids were like the rich kids, right, Like when we 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.199 would compete against them in football and speech debate, like 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:28.839 that you'd feel like, yeah, we're like funking with the 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.760 rich kids. Let's get them. So this is this is 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.640 this is this is like this is like this is 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:39.880 like uh Dallas fort worst like Evanston, I assume so yes, um. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.679 And when we would like obviously like yeah they were 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.200 the rich kids, they were also like the kids I 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.480 would often get drugs from when I was like nineteen 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.040 because they had like they had they had good drugs, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.280 you know. UM. So the other thing you should know 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.600 about and Capella is where you know, um, our boy 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.160 Thomas Rousseau grows up in the early two thousand's and 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.520 in fact, his senior year is the year of the election. UM. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.520 And another thing you should know about Kapell is that, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.680 like all the Dallas metroplex, it's incredibly diverse. And it's also, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.720 I should know, incredibly diverse in a specific way. It's 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.880 not hugely economically diverse, um, but it is has a 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.680 massive population of people from Southeast Asia, UM, from India, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:29.000 from Vietnam, from China, UM, and from Japan UM. And 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.240 the you can kind of see that if you look 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.559 at so Thomas Rousseau as a kid works for the 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.520 Coppell High school newspaper, the Sidekick, and if you if 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.640 you go to the Sidekicks website today and if you 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.640 look at its writers and its editorial staff, it is 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.400 a bunch of kids from Southeast Asia. Now, Thomas Russeau 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.480 is extremely white, um, and he has, you know, his 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.160 big things like replacement theory. He's been yelling about this 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.200 for a very long time, UM, and so one kind 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:03.439 of assumes this is probably w air. He started feeling that. Um. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.400 Although it's interesting if you look up, like one of 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.120 the earliest articles the SPLC has a pretty pretty good 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.480 profile on him and back kind of at the start 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:16.560 of UM. In February he wrote, write this article about 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.480 the school's diversity club, which is just a pretty normal 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.520 you would not there's no signs in there, not that 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.720 I saw that, Like he's going to be a Nazi 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.080 in about a year. Like it's just it's how like 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.840 basically anybody who was writing a straight piece of reporting 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.560 on a diversity club would write it. You know, It's 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.120 not like there's no signs in that article. You know, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.080 it's just because like the next article he writes is 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.760 like completely off the rails. Yeah, Like it's it's Trump 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.719 is at that point, because you know, February, Trump is 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:51.319 still like I don't know, he's definitely becoming the front runner, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.360 but it's not clear what's going to happen yet. And 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.880 by the time he writes his next article a couple 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:03.400 in like October, it's uh, full on trumpy. Yeah, he's like, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.400 I mean, he's like but by that point, like he 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.880 started his great replacement stuff. He started like, I mean, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.960 he's doing that kind of like the the white working 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.040 class has been like oppressed for too long and people 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.080 keep calling them bracest and so they're voting for Trump 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:24.160 now because they're simultaneously poor but also like but but 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.000 I think it's interesting. It's like, you know, it's it's 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.800 an interesting sign of that kind of like what actually 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.200 generates that kind of right wing populism because it's like, 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.000 so you have you have someone who's like going fascist 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.120 really quickly writing this, and it's like, oh, where is 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.240 he from? A weight He's like just from like the 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.760 incredible rich kid place. It's like it's it's it's it's 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:50.480 it's fun he's doing. Yeah, he's he's doing this sort 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.320 of fascist version of the like working class whispering that 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:58.160 you kind of like rich Pundit's doing and it's one 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.240 of the things the kind of black box Mr reads 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.360 with Rousseau that I haven't seen a great is like 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.920 when when does the actual switch flip in his head? 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.640 Like when he writes that article about the school diversity club. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.800 Is he already a fascist um or is he one 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.320 of these people who like is kind of conservative and 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.280 gets super radicalized by Trump because he had you see 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.160 throughout kind of because I get the feeling from him 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.120 that he was always kind of like the conservative kid 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.720 in his school paper in school media, and like you 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.200 get you see, like he's writing, like the month after 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.680 that diversity club article, he writes h an article about 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:39.960 campus kerry and is like supporting concealed carry on college 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:44.080 campuses and is pretty like uh, but it's also these 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:45.720 are also like kind of it's also kind of a 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.360 milk toast conservative take, Like it's not he's not like 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.040 making an explicitly fascist argument. He's making the kind of 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.080 arguments that like I would have made in speech and 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.880 too eight class as a conservative kid in North Texas 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.680 when I was a senior. You see, like in May, 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:03.160 he he's writing an article about like bathroom bills and stuff. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:08.200 That's that's getting closer to kind of modern American fascist rhetoric. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.640 And then of course by like October he's he's fully 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.760 on the Trump train. Um. And he actually has a 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:19.120 removed opinion column after the election about like the silent majority, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.520 where he says, quote, the truth is, white voters, especially 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.280 the working class, have had more than enough of being 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.080 called racist, sexist, xenophobic, islamophobic, homophobic, and the rest of 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.240 the usual trite buzzwords. The forgotten majority of the American 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.120 electorate has shown that much to the dismay of the 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.720 globalist agenda, that they have not yet been replaced by 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.040 tens of millions of blue voting immigrants from abroad. And 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.600 it's again, you can kind of there's a debate as 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.640 to whether you can, I guess argue as to whether 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.320 or not he had always been sort of a fascist 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.800 and just felt like more comfortable as the year went 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.359 on being open about it, or if he's getting radicalized. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.680 I feel like he's kind of getting radical. I can 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:57.240 see I can see in him like shades of everyone 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.240 that I knew back then at that point in time 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.280 in my life in me, like well, and this reminds. So, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.240 so I was I'm like a year older than he is, right, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.280 So I I I was out of high school by sixteen, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.440 but like I you know, i'd like I just graduated 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.640 right like a good fifteen And I remember this with 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.480 like people with people that I knew who were like 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.440 because I mean, like okay, like what there were always 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.280 people who were like really really like like we had 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.280 a lot of like Fox News pilled like kill all 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.520 the Muslims kids, But there are also people who like 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.120 weren't like that, who were just like conservatives, and over 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:31.560 the course of sixteen like they went really really like 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.560 they radicalized really quickly. So it wouldn't surprise me if 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.360 he's doing the same thing, because I think that was 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.480 a lot of like, like I watched a lot of 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.800 sort of like more majority people get like who were 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.240 kind of like on who weren't on the like absolute 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.960 like right wing, like I don't know, like who weren't 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.480 on the absolutely hard right of that thing, who were 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:03.520 kind of like conservative, but you know, like weren't actively 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.080 invested in murdering every gapers. And yeah, those people just 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.600 like a switch flipped and they like they just kind 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:15.040 of went syco mode. Yeah, and that's that's where he goes. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.800 He goes like full on and I don't know you can. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.119 It's interesting because like his his primary job for the 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.840 sidekick the Cupell High School student newspaper is as like 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.879 their their political cartoonist, and he's he's mostly doing like 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.720 really basic like clip art ship, which is what you 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.080 see him doing for like Patriot Front. It's kind of 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.280 the thing that distinguishes them is his like art style, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.520 UM and the propaganda he makes. So you know, he's 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.080 there at Unite the Right in one of the guys 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.640 he's there with commits a terrorist attack. They spent off 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.800 Patriot Front and for the next few years, most of 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.160 what they'll do is these events where they'll like show 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.320 up and they'll march. Um. It's worth noting that while 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.720 they bring different kinds of weapons to these events, mainly 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.000 lie you know, bludgeoning weapons, the kind of things you'd 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:06.240 have for like a street fight, UM and shields, these 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.960 are not primarily violent events, and that like their goal 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:12.800 is not to get into a fight. I think mainly 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.280 not because they're not violent people, because they're scared of 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:19.679 getting into a fight. UM. And Rousseau's probably scared of 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.920 getting in trouble for having a bunch of people show 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.399 up to riot. So most of what they do is 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.800 they'll do these flash mobs while there. They'll get like 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.320 a bunch of people together in the middle of the 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.800 night or like on a day when nobody expects it, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.359 and they'll march around d C or something, and then 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.639 they'll get footage of themselves doing this march where you know, 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.840 they can kind of uh take care to make sure 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.199 the angles make them look as impressive as possible, and 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.240 then they'll put that up to try and get more members, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.920 um so that they can put up more propaganda. Right, 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.960 they've had a couple of well publicized failures. They showed 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:57.520 up in Philadelphia. This was last year, right, and they 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.240 again there's like thirty and fifty of them. They all 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.439 like pilot of a U haul. They're marching is like 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.800 in their fascist uniforms, and like three dudes confront them 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.080 and that wreck fit like three Philly guys just wreck 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:13.880 their ships. So funny I ever seeing feeling. I think 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.600 it was from that. We're just like there's like there's 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.960 a video, it's it's just them running away and there's 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.679 like there's like objects flying through the air, you know, 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:27.159 like their frontest little army confronts, like three random Philly 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.400 We're just like, oh, this isn't any good. I don't 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.040 know who these guys are, but there's no way this 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:37.280 is good. Come up, Um, it's a it's a perfect 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.680 Philly moment um. So yeah, and like that is their 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.879 m o UM. And in part because one thing you 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.840 have to and I people can misinterpret what I'm saying here. 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:52.080 They're probably the most disciplined of the fascist groups that 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.520 do regular in person events UM because there's a lot 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.280 of discipline required in getting several dozen people together, getting 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.880 them all to the area in the exact same mode 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.119 of transport together. That's why they all pile into u 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:09.080 Hall's right. Roussou doesn't want to coordinate a big caravan um. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.119 That would be messy. People would be arriving at different times, 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.719 people would get lost or get stuck in traffic. He 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.359 wants everyone together because he's again he's a fascist. So 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:21.120 they're they're really um, and they are are pretty consistent 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.640 and pretty good at getting everyone together and marching at 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.840 the same time. So like on a logistic end, there's 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.439 some things they do that are are competent, you know, 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:35.960 um generally speaking. Now, the downside of this plan I've 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:37.960 just talked about like why getting everyone in a U 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.840 hall can work and how it has worked for them 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.960 in the past. The downside of this is that everyone 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.520 is in a U hall together. I mean I think 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.440 I think for them there there's there. I think that 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.320 there's some upside like for them doing this, which is 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.000 that like I think on a sort of like on 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.840 like a discipline level, and on level of like building 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.440 this like like build building this sort of like culture 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.399 of like like community and like solidarity. But like the 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.240 fascist version of it is like, yeah, you have everyone's 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.080 suffering together in the back of a U haul, which 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:12.480 is hot as shit and like has to smell like 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:18.479 like like like death, Like like yeah, it's like like 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.479 imagine the worst locker room you've ever been in. But 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.720 then it's been it's every everyone has been trapped in 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.440 there for a week. It's like, yeah, it's a it's 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.920 a hot air balloon powered by Nazi farts, like that's 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.320 that's what's going on there. And they're all just like 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.000 and it's it's very funny because like when they had 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.200 done their last event or two and like this is 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.840 like in the dead of winter in the East Coast 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.879 that they do a couple of events and they have 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.560 people like nearly passing out from heat stroke in the 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.119 back of the van. Yeah. Um, in the back of 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:50.280 the U haul because like it's not great to be 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:54.880 scrapped in the back of you people. It's like, um, 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.119 it sucks. But also like that that suffering sort of 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.359 like brings them together and makes them sort of like sure, 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.800 like yeah in a lot of ways, which sucks, but 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.280 also yeah, the second modistical problem with this, I think 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.119 you're about to get to. Yeah, So they try to 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:15.040 Rousseau actually puts out specific like information about like hey, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.000