WEBVTT - August Q&A 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal. Holl that for me. I'm 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:09.680 a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:11.640 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.040 for a day? Edith Steak is that woof? Woof? And 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:21.479 then and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal Boys 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:22.759 and girls. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.239 My name is ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as always over 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:32.400 there the one and onldly Dan Rubinstein, Sir, sir, sir, 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:33.400 how you doing. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.560 Ty I'm doing good. I'm I'm on some new shit. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.279 Been saying yes yeah instead of no. I thought I 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.960 saw you at the bus stop. I didn't. You'd been 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.640 listening to folklore? Haven't you time into it? I'm into it? 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.080 The new t swift dropped what two weeks ago before 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.280 our podcast. We found out about it before our podcast, 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:56.480 something like that. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.440 Yeah, No, it's good, it's good. It's different. It's good. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.920 Walk in music, Tye, walk, you gotta go for a walk. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.040 I push the solid toddler. We'll go for a walk. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:06.720 We'll go over to a park or something like that. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.000 And maybe while he's, you know, running around flirting with 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.959 the ladies, going on some swings, maybe I'll pop in 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.319 a song or two. Give me a soundtrack. Usually I 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.080 like the nat sound, as they say, but it's good 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.399 walk in music. Sometimes, just maybe after he goes down 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.160 for the night, I'll go for a walk in the neighborhood. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.400 We'll just throw on some T Swift, sometimes a podcast, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:32.320 sometimes folklore, Supreme Washed list activity. Oh ty, I'm advanced. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:37.199 I've been practicing go on that nice long walk after dinner. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.920 Welcome back to the show. We have broken the seal 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.800 on August. As we get a little bit closer to 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.120 whatever this season is going to look like, we do 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.640 have some news on that front that we're going to 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.200 get through. Also, of note, we put out the call 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.840 earlier that we wanted to take your questions again. It's August. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.440 We generally do one or two of these shows, these 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.920 Q and A type shows per month, and now that 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.960 we are getting seemingly closer to a season, it's time 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:13.240 for us to do previews. Mister Rubinstein, Yeah, we are approaching. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.880 I was gonna say that time, but it's not an 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.000 annual time that we do this, So yeah, it appears 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.600 that it's time for us to do so. I'm very 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.600 excited to dive in the Big twelve is where we're 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.720 starting in the Big twelve. As we're recording this later 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.040 in the week we were recording this early on, they're 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.760 going to announce more schedule specifics, so we'll be armed 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.399 with more data to talk about what Brock Purdy has 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.640 in front of him, or what Sam Ellinger has in 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.680 front of him, or Keyante Ingram is running into stuff 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.239 like that. So I'm excited. I am too. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.640 It feels good to actually go in and do a 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.120 deep dive on some of these teams, so I'm excited. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.120 That'll be on Friday that show drops, We're going to 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.400 start previews, and each of the next what four or 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.680 five shows after that will also be previews as we 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:06.040 build towards again, whatever format this season takes on, we 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.520 will be with you, cheering loudly, hoping that. 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.720 It stays safe and that it's fun. Voice is going up. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.000 Got to raise the register here, Dan. It's been a 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.240 long off season and still an uncertain one at that. Yeah, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.120 and I'm excited because obviously timing is pretty variable. We 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.280 are going to have opportunities as we increase the rate 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.200 with which we record to maybe update some previews. A 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.320 quarterback wins the job, somebody gets hurt, a coach gets fired, 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.280 another schedule adjustment happens, So we're leaving ourselves some wiggle 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.920 room given the revised scheduling as it stands August third, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.040 today's a third word. 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.040 This is going to drop on the fifth, so they 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.160 could call the whole damn thing off by the time 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:48.200 the show drops. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.520 Yeah. I think it's actually good that we make that 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.600 clear because a lot of news drops every hour right now, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.840 be it with players uniting and taking stands and asking 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.480 a conference for a us min's to how student athletes 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.560 quote unquote are treated, or with how schedules are revised, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:10.000 or anything coaches made all that they should be. Come on, 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.880 come on, come on, it's just clear that we're recording 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.320 this Monday, August third. That's all. Also going out to 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.679 Solid verbal dot com slash store and buy the new shirt, 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.640 the techmost Solid Verbal I believe is what you called it. Yeah, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.800 it's the welcome screen to Techmost super Bowl, the greatest 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:33.040 video game ever made. 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I'll just leave it 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.479 at that for now. More to come, especially if you 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.640 live in christ Church, New Zealand. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:21.480 Especially shall we get to that news? Uh? Yeah? Can 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.039 you actually play a breaking news question real quick or 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:24.800 sound bite? 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:25.280 Real quick? 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:36.160 Do? An Instagram user asked us Cajun truffle oil or 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.760 regular tots slash fries? Which is the best that comes 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.120 to us from qvho that has come in? Tie do? 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.760 I should be a little bit alarmed that we're almost 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.240 at like fifty to fifty? Hey what five running backs 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.000 you're most looking forward to watching? And hey, what would 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.679 you call chicken wings that are named after you? Guys 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:59.599 type questions. My answer is basically, anytime I see a 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.640 Cajun seasoning option, I roll with it and it rarely 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:03.840 steers me in the wrong direction. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.520 Oh man, all right, let's get to the actual news here. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.600 So you mentioned this at the top, but some news 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.800 towards the latter half of the week last week and 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.880 then materialized a little bit more over the weekend. PAC 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.480 twelve football players are showing unity. They are listing demands 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.600 in a letter to the conference. The group from multiple 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.560 schools they pend a letter. It showed up in the 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:35.360 player's tribune, threatening to opt out of fall camp and 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:41.040 game participation unless their demands for fair treatment, safety regulations, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:45.320 and concerns over racial justice for college athletes are met 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:49.320 by the conference. The letter is signed by players of 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.800 the PAC twelve that uses the hashtag we are united 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:59.840 to explain their concerns, saying quote, because NCAA exploits college 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:06.200 athletes physically, economically, academically, and also disproportionately harms black college 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.720 athletes hashtag we are you and I had dis garnered 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.920 a lot of attention over the last few days. Very 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.600 interested to see where this all goes to what end 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.040 the PAC twelve and member schools are able to meet 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.760 some of these demands. I will say that they waited 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.520 for the right time to cash in their bargaining chip 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.360 because right now, with things as uncertain as they are 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.760 in and around the world of college football, if you've 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.800 got a workforce quote unquote workforce that just decides, ah, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.600 we're good, that would really put things in a bind. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.640 So I admire the timing of this for sure. 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:52.720 Oh absolutely no, the organization, the timing, the messaging in 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.120 large part, and one of the things I think gets 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:01.120 overlooked a little bit, this is a negotiation. The grander 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.120 group of college athletes as a whole don't have representation, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.880 so they've banded together in the way that I guess 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.200 Packed twelve football players can, and that I think it 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.160 started on Group me, started with some Cal football players 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.160 and branched out from there. A lot of pretty well 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.840 known Packed twelve players were on board with this and 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.160 shared the messaging yesterday on social media, so it certainly 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.040 garnered a lot of attention. But yeah, between the health stuff, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.000 which all made sense, all of the concerns about safety 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:33.479 protocols and health insurance after playing, nothing really all that unreasonable. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.160 Just a tricky situation. Perhaps with some of the revenue 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:38.880 ass I think there was an ask for about fifty 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:44.040 percent of revenue to be distributed to players and dipping 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.360 into endowments, which is more complicated since endowments are earmarked 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.200 for specific things by the people giving the money to save. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.200 And we saw Stanford cancel a number of Olympic sports. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.559 The social justice, the racial justice stuff all was it 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.880 just seemed like a no brainer. Let's listen to pe, 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.760 Let's create scholarships for low income people more, let's have 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.600 a more open conversation, more due process. All of these 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.360 things from a human level all seem like very reasonable, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.560 thoughtful asks. One of the I wouldn't say problems is 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:21.280 just the revenue thing is tough because college football is 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.520 built on not handling revenue all that responsibly as it 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:31.800 relates to other similar professionalized sports. And so the understanding 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.439 I have is it's the beginning of a negotiation. How 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.720 can we help to distribute revenue with those who help 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:42.560 to generate it. And I think that is a reasonable conversation, 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.880 a reasonable ask, And the hope is that things evolve 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.000 from a human perspective. You see a lot of people 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.040 and this is the straw man argument, come out, whether 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.000 they're in the media, whether they're fans in general. And 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.160 I don't necessarily think it's a bad faith place I 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.800 think people like the sport for different reasons, and they 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.920 see say, scholarships and room and board as well. I 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.120 didn't get that they should be lucky that they get that. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.880 I don't know if I want to open the can 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.360 of worms thing about what college ball players do and 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.040 don't have, but it's clear this season is largely happening 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.600 for revenue purposes. And the revenue right even a question 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.880 that football helps to generate and helps to garner. So 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.880 if that's the case, these players have even more leverage 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.040 than usual. And we saw I think it was a 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:36.680 top Washington corner Elijah Molden. He shared something and I 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.440 thought it was very thoughtful. And then Trevor Lawrence, who 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.959 might be the highest profile college football player on the 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.280 planet right now, he shared what Elijah Molden had to say. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.280 So it seems like you're never going to really get 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.040 change without a ton of buy in from big names 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.240 with big platforms, and that's what we're seeing more and more. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.280 So I found it to be fascinating. I really hope 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.800 for their sake because and this is I think I 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.840 can speak for you, but I can definitely speak for myself. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.520 My favorite thing about college football is watching college football 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.400 players play college football. So anything that is college football 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.839 player forward, I'm in favor of. That's my favorite. It's 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:20.280 my literal favorite part, with grilled Mexican food coming shortly thereafter. Yeah, 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.520 and truly it is the next frontier, Yeah, in college football, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.880 the players finding their collective voice about this or something else. 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.280 We saw it with the nil legislation, which at some 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.679 point will dive a little bit more into. Yeah, this 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.800 is the next frontier. Where do you see this going realistically? 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.199 And is it something that you could see getting worked 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:47.000 out or having a like a beta agreement before? I 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.560 think it's fall Camp. I think it's the beta agreement. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.840 One of their specific asks was for some sort of 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.160 task force to help with some of the racial injustice 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.680 topics that were voice in this letter. That strikes me 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.920 as a quick win, something that can be organized very 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.600 quickly and can have great effect. There are other things 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.439 here that are more systemic, right, Like the whole financial 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.880 model here is a big deal, right, Yeah, that's a 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.080 system upon which the entire sport is built. It's going 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.520 to take a while to work through the details on 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.719 that front, but I think if we can get some 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.000 sort of buy in from member institutions that they're going 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.599 to work with this group of players. That's where I 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:29.920 would expect this to go next. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.760 Yeah, no, absolutely, And there are a number of smart 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.920 people you can follow on this on social media. I 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.920 saw Michael Felder, who's terrific. I think he's I don't 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.040 know if he's Michael Felder in the bleachers on Twitter, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.240 but we've been following him forever. He played defensive back 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.680 at North Carolina and mentioned the facilities thing. Why do 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.760 exorbitant and beautiful facilities exist. Well, it's sort of a 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.439 recruiting arms race. It's to keep players in the facility, 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.920 watching film, being around other players, buying in and not 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.760 necessarily becoming full college students. And it's even more recruiting. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.760 It's even more recruiting. And so one of the things 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.600 that the players in the PAC twelve United statement made 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.560 was we're spending so much money on everything but the 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.319 people on the field. And so that's the interesting thing 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:21.680 to me is how this changes the bottom line and 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:26.240 the spreadsheets across the sport, Because what a Texas spreadsheet, 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.440 what an Ohio State spreadsheet looks like, is not what 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.120 a Mountain Union spreadsheet looks like. Is not what a 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:36.280 Texas track and field spreadsheet looks like. So it's fascinating 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.280 to see if this gets at least there's an incremental 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.040 change that happens in the next month or so before 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:43.840 the season starts. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.080 All right, So to pivot off of that, Washington State 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:53.960 head football coach Nick Rolovich tells wide receiver Cassidy Woods 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.920 that joining the Unity group, the one we just discussed, 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:02.440 would create now quote an issue. Now, Cassidy Woods called 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.560 to inform Nick Rolovich that he was going to opt 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.160 out of the season. He's got sickle cell trade. He 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:12.080 would be at an enhanced risk obviously for the coronavirus. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.040 No big deal on that front, right, Rolovich told Woods, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.720 No big deal, no problem there. What he would have 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.400 a problem with is if he opted to be part 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.280 of the Unity movement, the group that we just discussed, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.640 the ones that are threatening to opt out this season. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.320 If the PAC twelve does not meet a series of demands. Quote, 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.840 that's going to be an issue if you align with them. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.800 As far as future stuff, Rolovich said, according to the 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.680 Dallas Morning News, quote the COVID stuff is one thing, 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.800 but joining this group, it's going to be different. If 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.240 you say I'm opting out because of COVID and health 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.640 and safety. I'm good, but this group is going to 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.480 change how things go in the future for everybody, at 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.080 least at our school. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:56.400 End quote. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:01.320 That's a really bad look there. Perhaps there is more 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.040 context that will come out that will make it look better, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.760 but call on its face, I'm trying to give folks 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.440 the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard on its face. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.240 That is certainly not a good look for the new 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.640 head football coach at Washington State. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:21.080 Mister Rolovic. Yeah, I'm trying to look at this from 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.840 all perspectives. But the call was recorded. There is a 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.800 transcript to the call. It's not a terrific look for 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.600 Nick Rolovich, especially since he hasn't coached a single game 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:33.040 or a full spring practice session or full fall camp. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.520 He is brand new, and the most important thing if 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.040 you if you asked any coach about is what is 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.280 the most important thing when you become a new coach. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.040 It's generally you got to win over the locker room 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.480 and get buy in. You got to get everybody believing 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.680 in you, believing in your vision, believing in you as 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.080 a human and how you are going to day to day. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:57.320 Take this program from A to B and ah, it's rough. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.360 It is absolutely rough to start your tenure. Oh and 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.399 not in Nikrolovitch's defense, but I can see that Nikrolovich 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.840 is saying, Okay, I need buying. If somebody's opting out, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.560 I don't want them at practices. I don't want them 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.080 in the locker room. If they're opting out for health reasons, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.560 it's for the best that they're not there, perhaps distracting 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.320 or just sort of on the sidelines. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.880 By the way, Nicole our back our friend, shortly after 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.640 some of this news broke on Twitter that no, no, 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.480 this is because of him opting out. He has to leave, 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.760 he can't practice. That's part of the rules. And more 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.200 came out after that, the transcript, the recording of the call, etc. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.240 And that sort of puts us where we're at right now. 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:44.239 It seems like when we hear about coaches sort of 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.280 making fools of themselves or the optics are that a 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.320 coach has made a fool of himself, it seems like 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:55.720 he is not there for his players and he's there 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.960 for him and he's there to be a football coach. 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.600 And even if that is more true than not, it 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.440 seems like the best coaches in this situation, and I've 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:09.639 heard about conversations that have happened on multiple campuses. It 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.080 seems like the best coaches say to their players, Hey, 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.960 I really I'm interested by the stuff you put out. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.080 I just want to let you know I have your 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.200 back and anything that I can do to clarify anything 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.360 to be there for you, Send me a text, give 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.560 me a call. Here's my number. Nick Rolovitch saying we 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.680 may need you to clear out your locker. It probably 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.720 could have been handled. It definitely could have been handled better. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.440 And it's and I think it was Beaumonti Jones who 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.280 said this that Washington State's already a very difficult place 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:47.159 to recruit too. It is not a traditional college and 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.000 college football program that recruits top level talent. It is 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.560 not near any big high school talent bases. And so 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.800 for Nick Rolovich, without having coached a game, to give 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.920 himself this to self inflict this sort of reputation about 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.560 not having his players backs and not being able to 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.960 convey what he's trying to convey in a mature, leadery way, 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.520 I don't know. I don't know what his long term 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:15.080 future looks like. Because it's got to convince parents on 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:19.000 the road that you're there for your sucks, bad luck. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.000 And how many people knew buck? How many people knew 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.480 his name before yesterday? I know how many? I know 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.919 how many West Virginia fans, how many Miami fans, how 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.160 many Texas Tech fans? How many Wisconsin fans knew Nick 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:35.720 rolovich name before yesterday? And now they know his name? Okay? 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.240 Staying with the PAC twelve been a busy news cycle 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.760 out West. They approved on Friday a ten game conference 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.439 only slate for football. We don't have to spend a 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.520 whole lot of time on this one. We do have 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.320 a bunch of questions that we want to get to. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:55.119 But ten game schedule, conference only beginning on September the 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.600 twenty sixth, with quote a lot of built in flexibility. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.639 Each team's going to play five home, five road games. 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.080 The PAC twelve championship will be played at one of 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:06.760 the home sites. It's not going to be played in 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.119 Vegas the higher ranked Yeah, the higher ranked home team 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:15.640 either on December eighteenth or nineteenth, they worked out some 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.920 sort of deal where they're going to start the Vegas 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:22.359 game next year, and then games that can't be played 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.440 on their scheduled dates are going to be made up 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.520 in one of the bye weeks or in Week twelve, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:32.760 which is the December the twelfth. So you know, whether 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.879 they could pull it off or not is the operative question. 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:38.560 And as we speak, as I think you said at 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.880 the top, the Big twelve, trying to work towards their 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.440 own model, trying to get some agreement there. There's also 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.119 one yeah, yeah, there's also a big NCAA Board of 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.840 Governors meeting that's going to drop on Tuesday. So perhaps 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.439 a lot of this stuff will be irrelevant by the 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.680 time folks listen on Wednesday morning. But that is a 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.520 state of play right now. The only other thing that 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.919 I'll add here this is just a follow up to 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.159 a story that we discussed on the last show about 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.800 Caleb Farley from Virginia Tech the prize defensive back opting 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.280 out going to focus on the draft. Remember lost a 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.600 parent two years ago, didn't want to run that risk 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:19.840 with another. He also adds that because of Virginia Tech's 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:24.560 rudimentary and or non existent health and safety protocols that 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.840 contributed to his decision as well. Quote this year at 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.640 Virginia Tech at our workouts. I started having deep concerns 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.960 about staying healthy. Guys are going home, going to Myrtle Beach, 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:37.240 coming back up to campus. We weren't getting tested. We're 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.880 all together, working out close to each other. One day 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.639 I looked around. We were like one hundred deep in 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:46.359 our indoor facility, no masks. My concern grew more and more. Yeah, 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.640 and I don't fault players. I mean, I don't faull 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.760 Caleb Farley. I don't even fault players for being in 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.199 a large group without mass. I mean, yes, they're at fault, 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.320 But it's the responsibility of the grown ups in the 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.320 room to be very clear about protocol, to be very clear, 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.399 like we're not wearing masks, we're not working out. If 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:05.680 we're not working out, we're not playing. It's very strange 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:07.040 to me. I think I just came into this with 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.040 the assumption that, like, oh, all of these major college 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:15.040 football programs have the means to convey protocol that anytime 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.119 you're inside, you wearing a mask, anytime you're practicing, this 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.160 is what we're doing anytime. This is how we clean 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.080 up after practice, is how we're dealing with footballs and 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.360