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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. We have broken the seal
Speaker 1: on August. As we get a little bit closer to
Speaker 1: whatever this season is going to look like, we do
Speaker 1: have some news on that front that we're going to
Speaker 1: get through. Also, of note, we put out the call
Speaker 1: earlier that we wanted to take your questions again. It's August.
Speaker 2: We generally do one or two of these shows, these
Speaker 2: Q and A type shows per month, and now that
Speaker 2: we are getting seemingly closer to a season, it's time
Speaker 2: for us to do previews. Mister Rubinstein, Yeah, we are approaching.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that time, but it's not an
Speaker 1: annual time that we do this, So yeah, it appears
Speaker 1: that it's time for us to do so. I'm very
Speaker 1: excited to dive in the Big twelve is where we're
Speaker 1: starting in the Big twelve. As we're recording this later
Speaker 1: in the week we were recording this early on, they're
Speaker 1: going to announce more schedule specifics, so we'll be armed
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Speaker 2: It feels good to actually go in and do a
Speaker 2: deep dive on some of these teams, so I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: start previews, and each of the next what four or
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Speaker 1: It stays safe and that it's fun. Voice is going up.
Speaker 1: Got to raise the register here, Dan. It's been a
Speaker 1: long off season and still an uncertain one at that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited because obviously timing is pretty variable. We
Speaker 1: are going to have opportunities as we increase the rate
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Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, let's get to the actual news here.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned this at the top, but some news
Speaker 2: towards the latter half of the week last week and
Speaker 2: then materialized a little bit more over the weekend. PAC
Speaker 2: twelve football players are showing unity. They are listing demands
Speaker 2: in a letter to the conference. The group from multiple
Speaker 2: schools they pend a letter. It showed up in the
Speaker 2: player's tribune, threatening to opt out of fall camp and
Speaker 2: game participation unless their demands for fair treatment, safety regulations,
Speaker 2: and concerns over racial justice for college athletes are met
Speaker 2: by the conference. The letter is signed by players of
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve that uses the hashtag we are united
Speaker 2: to explain their concerns, saying quote, because NCAA exploits college
Speaker 2: athletes physically, economically, academically, and also disproportionately harms black college
Speaker 2: athletes hashtag we are you and I had dis garnered
Speaker 2: a lot of attention over the last few days. Very
Speaker 2: interested to see where this all goes to what end
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve and member schools are able to meet
Speaker 2: some of these demands. I will say that they waited
Speaker 2: for the right time to cash in their bargaining chip
Speaker 2: because right now, with things as uncertain as they are
Speaker 2: in and around the world of college football, if you've
Speaker 2: got a workforce quote unquote workforce that just decides, ah,
Speaker 2: we're good, that would really put things in a bind.
Speaker 2: So I admire the timing of this for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely no, the organization, the timing, the messaging in
Speaker 1: large part, and one of the things I think gets
Speaker 1: overlooked a little bit, this is a negotiation. The grander
Speaker 1: group of college athletes as a whole don't have representation,
Speaker 1: so they've banded together in the way that I guess
Speaker 1: Packed twelve football players can, and that I think it
Speaker 1: started on Group me, started with some Cal football players
Speaker 1: and branched out from there. A lot of pretty well
Speaker 1: known Packed twelve players were on board with this and
Speaker 1: shared the messaging yesterday on social media, so it certainly
Speaker 1: garnered a lot of attention. But yeah, between the health stuff,
Speaker 1: which all made sense, all of the concerns about safety
Speaker 1: protocols and health insurance after playing, nothing really all that unreasonable.
Speaker 1: Just a tricky situation. Perhaps with some of the revenue
Speaker 1: ass I think there was an ask for about fifty
Speaker 1: percent of revenue to be distributed to players and dipping
Speaker 1: into endowments, which is more complicated since endowments are earmarked
Speaker 1: for specific things by the people giving the money to save.
Speaker 1: And we saw Stanford cancel a number of Olympic sports.
Speaker 1: The social justice, the racial justice stuff all was it
Speaker 1: just seemed like a no brainer. Let's listen to pe,
Speaker 1: Let's create scholarships for low income people more, let's have
Speaker 1: a more open conversation, more due process. All of these
Speaker 1: things from a human level all seem like very reasonable,
Speaker 1: thoughtful asks. One of the I wouldn't say problems is
Speaker 1: just the revenue thing is tough because college football is
Speaker 1: built on not handling revenue all that responsibly as it
Speaker 1: relates to other similar professionalized sports. And so the understanding
Speaker 1: I have is it's the beginning of a negotiation. How
Speaker 1: can we help to distribute revenue with those who help
Speaker 1: to generate it. And I think that is a reasonable conversation,
Speaker 1: a reasonable ask, And the hope is that things evolve
Speaker 1: from a human perspective. You see a lot of people
Speaker 1: and this is the straw man argument, come out, whether
Speaker 1: they're in the media, whether they're fans in general. And
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's a bad faith place I
Speaker 1: think people like the sport for different reasons, and they
Speaker 1: see say, scholarships and room and board as well. I
Speaker 1: didn't get that they should be lucky that they get that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to open the can
Speaker 1: of worms thing about what college ball players do and
Speaker 1: don't have, but it's clear this season is largely happening
Speaker 1: for revenue purposes. And the revenue right even a question
Speaker 1: that football helps to generate and helps to garner. So
Speaker 1: if that's the case, these players have even more leverage
Speaker 1: than usual. And we saw I think it was a
Speaker 1: top Washington corner Elijah Molden. He shared something and I
Speaker 1: thought it was very thoughtful. And then Trevor Lawrence, who
Speaker 1: might be the highest profile college football player on the
Speaker 1: planet right now, he shared what Elijah Molden had to say.
Speaker 1: So it seems like you're never going to really get
Speaker 1: change without a ton of buy in from big names
Speaker 1: with big platforms, and that's what we're seeing more and more.
Speaker 1: So I found it to be fascinating. I really hope
Speaker 1: for their sake because and this is I think I
Speaker 1: can speak for you, but I can definitely speak for myself.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about college football is watching college football
Speaker 1: players play college football. So anything that is college football
Speaker 1: player forward, I'm in favor of. That's my favorite. It's
Speaker 1: my literal favorite part, with grilled Mexican food coming shortly thereafter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and truly it is the next frontier, Yeah, in college football,
Speaker 1: the players finding their collective voice about this or something else.
Speaker 1: We saw it with the nil legislation, which at some
Speaker 1: point will dive a little bit more into. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the next frontier. Where do you see this going realistically?
Speaker 1: And is it something that you could see getting worked
Speaker 1: out or having a like a beta agreement before? I
Speaker 1: think it's fall Camp. I think it's the beta agreement.
Speaker 2: One of their specific asks was for some sort of
Speaker 2: task force to help with some of the racial injustice
Speaker 2: topics that were voice in this letter. That strikes me
Speaker 2: as a quick win, something that can be organized very
Speaker 2: quickly and can have great effect. There are other things
Speaker 2: here that are more systemic, right, Like the whole financial
Speaker 2: model here is a big deal, right, Yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: system upon which the entire sport is built. It's going
Speaker 2: to take a while to work through the details on
Speaker 2: that front, but I think if we can get some
Speaker 2: sort of buy in from member institutions that they're going
Speaker 2: to work with this group of players. That's where I
Speaker 2: would expect this to go next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, And there are a number of smart
Speaker 1: people you can follow on this on social media. I
Speaker 1: saw Michael Felder, who's terrific. I think he's I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's Michael Felder in the bleachers on Twitter,
Speaker 1: but we've been following him forever. He played defensive back
Speaker 1: at North Carolina and mentioned the facilities thing. Why do
Speaker 1: exorbitant and beautiful facilities exist. Well, it's sort of a
Speaker 1: recruiting arms race. It's to keep players in the facility,
Speaker 1: watching film, being around other players, buying in and not
Speaker 1: necessarily becoming full college students. And it's even more recruiting.
Speaker 1: It's even more recruiting. And so one of the things
Speaker 1: that the players in the PAC twelve United statement made
Speaker 1: was we're spending so much money on everything but the
Speaker 1: people on the field. And so that's the interesting thing
Speaker 1: to me is how this changes the bottom line and
Speaker 1: the spreadsheets across the sport, Because what a Texas spreadsheet,
Speaker 1: what an Ohio State spreadsheet looks like, is not what
Speaker 1: a Mountain Union spreadsheet looks like. Is not what a
Speaker 1: Texas track and field spreadsheet looks like. So it's fascinating
Speaker 1: to see if this gets at least there's an incremental
Speaker 1: change that happens in the next month or so before
Speaker 1: the season starts.
Speaker 2: All right, So to pivot off of that, Washington State
Speaker 2: head football coach Nick Rolovich tells wide receiver Cassidy Woods
Speaker 2: that joining the Unity group, the one we just discussed,
Speaker 2: would create now quote an issue. Now, Cassidy Woods called
Speaker 2: to inform Nick Rolovich that he was going to opt
Speaker 2: out of the season. He's got sickle cell trade. He
Speaker 2: would be at an enhanced risk obviously for the coronavirus.
Speaker 2: No big deal on that front, right, Rolovich told Woods,
Speaker 2: No big deal, no problem there. What he would have
Speaker 2: a problem with is if he opted to be part
Speaker 2: of the Unity movement, the group that we just discussed,
Speaker 2: the ones that are threatening to opt out this season.
Speaker 2: If the PAC twelve does not meet a series of demands. Quote,
Speaker 2: that's going to be an issue if you align with them.
Speaker 2: As far as future stuff, Rolovich said, according to the
Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News, quote the COVID stuff is one thing,
Speaker 2: but joining this group, it's going to be different. If
Speaker 2: you say I'm opting out because of COVID and health
Speaker 2: and safety. I'm good, but this group is going to
Speaker 2: change how things go in the future for everybody, at
Speaker 2: least at our school.
Speaker 1: End quote.
Speaker 2: That's a really bad look there. Perhaps there is more
Speaker 2: context that will come out that will make it look better,
Speaker 2: but call on its face, I'm trying to give folks
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard on its face.
Speaker 2: That is certainly not a good look for the new
Speaker 2: head football coach at Washington State.
Speaker 1: Mister Rolovic. Yeah, I'm trying to look at this from
Speaker 1: all perspectives. But the call was recorded. There is a
Speaker 1: transcript to the call. It's not a terrific look for
Speaker 1: Nick Rolovich, especially since he hasn't coached a single game
Speaker 1: or a full spring practice session or full fall camp.
Speaker 1: He is brand new, and the most important thing if
Speaker 1: you if you asked any coach about is what is
Speaker 1: the most important thing when you become a new coach.
Speaker 1: It's generally you got to win over the locker room
Speaker 1: and get buy in. You got to get everybody believing
Speaker 1: in you, believing in your vision, believing in you as
Speaker 1: a human and how you are going to day to day.
Speaker 1: Take this program from A to B and ah, it's rough.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely rough to start your tenure. Oh and
Speaker 1: not in Nikrolovitch's defense, but I can see that Nikrolovich
Speaker 1: is saying, Okay, I need buying. If somebody's opting out,
Speaker 1: I don't want them at practices. I don't want them
Speaker 1: in the locker room. If they're opting out for health reasons,
Speaker 1: it's for the best that they're not there, perhaps distracting
Speaker 1: or just sort of on the sidelines.
Speaker 2: By the way, Nicole our back our friend, shortly after
Speaker 2: some of this news broke on Twitter that no, no,
Speaker 2: this is because of him opting out. He has to leave,
Speaker 2: he can't practice. That's part of the rules. And more
Speaker 2: came out after that, the transcript, the recording of the call, etc.
Speaker 2: And that sort of puts us where we're at right now.
Speaker 1: It seems like when we hear about coaches sort of
Speaker 1: making fools of themselves or the optics are that a
Speaker 1: coach has made a fool of himself, it seems like
Speaker 1: he is not there for his players and he's there
Speaker 1: for him and he's there to be a football coach.
Speaker 1: And even if that is more true than not, it
Speaker 1: seems like the best coaches in this situation, and I've
Speaker 1: heard about conversations that have happened on multiple campuses. It
Speaker 1: seems like the best coaches say to their players, Hey,
Speaker 1: I really I'm interested by the stuff you put out.
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know I have your
Speaker 1: back and anything that I can do to clarify anything
Speaker 1: to be there for you, Send me a text, give
Speaker 1: me a call. Here's my number. Nick Rolovitch saying we
Speaker 1: may need you to clear out your locker. It probably
Speaker 1: could have been handled. It definitely could have been handled better.
Speaker 1: And it's and I think it was Beaumonti Jones who
Speaker 1: said this that Washington State's already a very difficult place
Speaker 1: to recruit too. It is not a traditional college and
Speaker 1: college football program that recruits top level talent. It is
Speaker 1: not near any big high school talent bases. And so
Speaker 1: for Nick Rolovich, without having coached a game, to give
Speaker 1: himself this to self inflict this sort of reputation about
Speaker 1: not having his players backs and not being able to
Speaker 1: convey what he's trying to convey in a mature, leadery way,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what his long term
Speaker 1: future looks like. Because it's got to convince parents on
Speaker 1: the road that you're there for your sucks, bad luck.
Speaker 1: And how many people knew buck? How many people knew
Speaker 1: his name before yesterday? I know how many? I know
Speaker 1: how many West Virginia fans, how many Miami fans, how
Speaker 1: many Texas Tech fans? How many Wisconsin fans knew Nick
Speaker 1: rolovich name before yesterday? And now they know his name? Okay?
Speaker 1: Staying with the PAC twelve been a busy news cycle
Speaker 1: out West. They approved on Friday a ten game conference
Speaker 1: only slate for football. We don't have to spend a
Speaker 1: whole lot of time on this one. We do have
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions that we want to get to.
Speaker 1: But ten game schedule, conference only beginning on September the
Speaker 1: twenty sixth, with quote a lot of built in flexibility.
Speaker 1: Each team's going to play five home, five road games.
Speaker 1: The PAC twelve championship will be played at one of
Speaker 1: the home sites. It's not going to be played in
Speaker 1: Vegas the higher ranked Yeah, the higher ranked home team
Speaker 1: either on December eighteenth or nineteenth, they worked out some
Speaker 1: sort of deal where they're going to start the Vegas
Speaker 1: game next year, and then games that can't be played
Speaker 1: on their scheduled dates are going to be made up
Speaker 1: in one of the bye weeks or in Week twelve,
Speaker 1: which is the December the twelfth. So you know, whether
Speaker 1: they could pull it off or not is the operative question.
Speaker 1: And as we speak, as I think you said at
Speaker 1: the top, the Big twelve, trying to work towards their
Speaker 1: own model, trying to get some agreement there. There's also
Speaker 1: one yeah, yeah, there's also a big NCAA Board of
Speaker 1: Governors meeting that's going to drop on Tuesday. So perhaps
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff will be irrelevant by the
Speaker 1: time folks listen on Wednesday morning. But that is a
Speaker 1: state of play right now. The only other thing that
Speaker 1: I'll add here this is just a follow up to
Speaker 1: a story that we discussed on the last show about
Speaker 1: Caleb Farley from Virginia Tech the prize defensive back opting
Speaker 1: out going to focus on the draft. Remember lost a
Speaker 1: parent two years ago, didn't want to run that risk
Speaker 1: with another. He also adds that because of Virginia Tech's
Speaker 1: rudimentary and or non existent health and safety protocols that
Speaker 1: contributed to his decision as well. Quote this year at
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech at our workouts. I started having deep concerns
Speaker 1: about staying healthy. Guys are going home, going to Myrtle Beach,
Speaker 1: coming back up to campus. We weren't getting tested. We're
Speaker 1: all together, working out close to each other. One day
Speaker 1: I looked around. We were like one hundred deep in
Speaker 1: our indoor facility, no masks. My concern grew more and more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't fault players. I mean, I don't faull
Speaker 1: Caleb Farley. I don't even fault players for being in
Speaker 1: a large group without mass. I mean, yes, they're at fault,
Speaker 1: But it's the responsibility of the grown ups in the
Speaker 1: room to be very clear about protocol, to be very clear,
Speaker 1: like we're not wearing masks, we're not working out. If
Speaker 1: we're not working out, we're not playing. It's very strange
Speaker 1: to me. I think I just came into this with
Speaker 1: the assumption that, like, oh, all of these major college
Speaker 1: football programs have the means to convey protocol that anytime
Speaker 1: you're inside, you wearing a mask, anytime you're practicing, this
Speaker 1: is what we're doing anytime. This is how we clean
Speaker 1: up after practice, is how we're dealing with footballs and
Speaker 1: goalposts or whatever. I guess we're not really touching goalposts
Speaker 1: all that much. But for a place like Virginia Tech,
Speaker 1: if this is true, which I have no reason to believe,
Speaker 1: it isn't kind of shocking. No, I can understand a
Speaker 1: tiny school really having trouble keeping up with whether it's
Speaker 1: a money thing, whether it's a supply thing, a testing thing, whatever.
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech makes a lot of money, They're an ACC school,
Speaker 1: They've played in recent huge Bowl games. And if they're
Speaker 1: not able to get their messaging to their players, I
Speaker 1: imagine they're not the only school. I hope they are,
Speaker 1: because that's extremely worrisome if they are, but or if
Speaker 1: they're not. But man, this is this is rough. This
Speaker 1: is this is a I totally get where Caleb Farley's
Speaker 1: coming from.
Speaker 2: We'll see if there are other players, we'll see which
Speaker 2: direction this al goes. But adding a little bit more
Speaker 2: insight to his decision, that's all we have for now.
Speaker 2: There could be more news by the time this breaks.
Speaker 2: That is sort of the way it goes in the
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Speaker 1: a fantastic question here from Eric. He writes in the
Speaker 1: email and says, guys, I was wondering if you can
Speaker 1: help settle a bet something we've done in the past.
Speaker 1: End Oh, I've seen any reason we can't do it. Here.
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, a friend and I made a little
Speaker 1: wager basically, will Notre Dame join a football conference before
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six? We were no more specific. That's more
Speaker 1: or less the exact wording. We obviously did not anticipate
Speaker 1: this situation. So should Notre Dame quote unquote joining the
Speaker 1: ACC for this season count? That is? Americ Dan, how
Speaker 1: do you feel? I don'ts bet? Would you count it?
Speaker 1: I don't know the language that they used. If it's
Speaker 1: simply will Notre Dame football join a conference before twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six? Notre Dame has joined the ACC before twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. If the wording of the bet is not,
Speaker 1: will Notre Dame become a full time memory of a conference?
Speaker 1: Might be different? That's semantics, right, But the fact is
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is playing an ACC schedule, is eligible for
Speaker 1: the ACC Championship game? And how many non ACC opponents
Speaker 1: is Notre Dame going to play this year? Uh? Maybe one?
Speaker 1: If things think well, I think I think probably zero
Speaker 1: maybe one, which is no different than any other ACC team.
Speaker 1: So I think Notre Dame's an ACC team. I think
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is an ACC team if there is say
Speaker 1: full time membership.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if there is no legally binding contract containing specific language.
Speaker 2: If you're being very vague and broad, right, Eric, I
Speaker 2: think you got to pay out the bet. I don't
Speaker 2: know which side of this bet you took, mind you,
Speaker 2: but I think it counts. I think it has to count, right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Do you think we got a question on Instagram?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's you know, more likely that Notre
Speaker 1: Dame and other independent school's army by you are our
Speaker 1: big notable ones? You know? Is aremy going to join
Speaker 1: the American if they ask them to is b why
Speaker 1: you're going to join the Big twelve or are they going
Speaker 1: to go back to the Mountain West if they're asked to.
Speaker 1: Do you think this unique earth situation makes it such
Speaker 1: that that could happen? I don't know what the output is.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I could certainly make a case for it. Here's what
Speaker 2: I do think. I do think that the sport is
Speaker 2: fundamentally going to be changed moving forward. Yeah, in many
Speaker 2: ways that we probably can't predict. But Notre Dame getting
Speaker 2: this exposure hopping into the acc if only out of
Speaker 2: necessity for one football season, one shortened football season. There
Speaker 2: will be some output from that experience that they will
Speaker 2: find valuable. The whole thing still may not outweigh.
Speaker 1: You're such an it guy. There's going to be output, Well,
Speaker 1: there will be. There will be something that comes to Wait,
Speaker 1: I was thinking outcomes, but yeah, an outcome, sure, outputs
Speaker 1: and outcomes. Yeah, there will be some thing that comes
Speaker 1: from this that I wholeheartedly expect they will be very
Speaker 1: happy about. Will it be enough to sway them from
Speaker 1: independence a culture that has permeated Notre Dame for decades?
Speaker 1: You know, probably not in the short term. I think
Speaker 1: what I do think though, I hate when I get
Speaker 1: permeated by culture.
Speaker 2: Are you listen, If you're not making Front of the
Speaker 2: Globe tomatoes, you're making fun of the permeation.
Speaker 1: It's a culture that has permeated Notre Dame for decades. Okay, sorry, scoundrel.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well back back to the serious topic of this man,
Speaker 2: if I could for a second.
Speaker 1: I talked about how we're recording this on a Monday.
Speaker 1: There's a board of governors meeting on Tuesday in the NCAA.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it relates to Notre Dame or
Speaker 1: BYU or army.
Speaker 2: But if the Board of Governors decides that they're going
Speaker 2: to cancel the fall Championships, but the Power five somehow
Speaker 2: finds some way to weasel a season out of the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty calendar year, that to me would be the
Speaker 2: first like major major schism between the Power Five the
Speaker 2: nc DOUBLEA, and it could signify maybe cracks in the foundation,
Speaker 2: maybe point a little bit more towards that break with
Speaker 2: one from the other that we talked about with Richard Johnson,
Speaker 2: Like could the Power five decide that it's sort of
Speaker 2: quasi going to break away from the NCAA and run
Speaker 2: football on its own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it already sort of does. The NCAA is just
Speaker 1: there for enforcement and eligibility stuff. But in terms of
Speaker 1: a postseason, in terms of TV deals and exposure, and
Speaker 1: the conferences aligning to sort of govern everything else, they
Speaker 1: already kind of had. And I saw people talking about this.
Speaker 1: The NCUBLEA answers to its member schools, so anything new
Speaker 1: that Power five schools would form would be an entity
Speaker 1: that answers to Power five schools, which is not all
Speaker 1: that different from the nc DOUBLEA just has a shiny
Speaker 1: new polish. The way that the college Football Playoff is
Speaker 1: run by Hutai BCS people, it is indeed Bill is
Speaker 1: indeed Bill right. So yes, I could see in regard
Speaker 1: to this Instagram question, I could see these schools becoming
Speaker 1: parts of conferences, but only because I think a lot's
Speaker 1: going to change with the sport in the next year
Speaker 1: or two, because of whatever it is, PAC twelve players,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, players becoming more vocal and revenues becoming
Speaker 1: more obviously in need of a little bit more redistribution.
Speaker 1: I think things are going to change now. Notre Dame
Speaker 1: has the cachet to go about things independently because they
Speaker 1: are that quote unquote national brand. I'm not doubting it.
Speaker 1: I just like quoting national brand, and then they can
Speaker 1: negotiate a TV dealer on their own. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a national TV deal available for BYU and Army
Speaker 1: in the same way on network TV that there is
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. But I think it's interesting. I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting because we're going to see at some point,
Speaker 1: whenever it is, TV contracts come up in various conferences.
Speaker 1: I think gradual reorganization around the reality that college football
Speaker 1: has in a lot of ways outgrown college. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: look no further than our current situation to really highlight
Speaker 1: the weakness in the system, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Jason writes in if the college football season does not
Speaker 2: happen at all this year, which teams benefit the most,
Speaker 2: which suffer the most? Consider players in coming outgoing lost momentum,
Speaker 2: coaches aging, coaches getting another year when maybe they don't
Speaker 2: deserve it, et cetera, et cetera. Show your work.
Speaker 1: I like the end of that. This is this is
Speaker 1: a Clayhilton question, right, yes, this is the cla This
Speaker 1: is how Clay Hilton stays at USC until twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: What is your answer? Obviously, Clay Helton is a short
Speaker 1: term winner. He doesn't have to play Alabama. He's given
Speaker 1: more time to sort of get the USC program in order.
Speaker 1: From a coaching in personnel and general infrastructure standpoint, and
Speaker 1: coaches like Clay Hilton, who you know, have been hanging
Speaker 1: on whoever that coach is, whoever. You know, a coach
Speaker 1: maybe coming off of an uncharacteristic bad twenty nineteen that's
Speaker 1: going to go farther and farther into the rear view mirror,
Speaker 1: you know, like a Dino Babers at Syracuse, somebody who
Speaker 1: followed up a pretty exciting year with a disappointing one,
Speaker 1: you know, not all that challenging conference that. You know,
Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald probably a big winner, you know that even
Speaker 1: though Northwestern isn't a huge, huge national name, Northwestern had
Speaker 1: a pretty terrible year. David Shaw pretty big winner. We're not,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking about Stanford's disappointing twenty nineteen as much
Speaker 1: so from an optics standpoint, teams like that from a
Speaker 1: coach's aging further, I don't know if there's an obvious
Speaker 1: answer there. I mean, there's no reason to think Nick
Speaker 1: Saban's retiring because of age. At this point, there's you know,
Speaker 1: now Alabama's still getting it done momentum wise. Maybe, I
Speaker 1: think schools that have a lot of obvious first round,
Speaker 1: second round picks who are either not going to play
Speaker 1: because the season isn't happening, or opt out because they
Speaker 1: don't want to take that chance. High State, Clemson schools
Speaker 1: like that that I think have a lot like, you know.
Speaker 2: If there is no season and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know what that means for players like ian Book or
Speaker 2: in ian Book's type of situation.
Speaker 1: It puts schools like.
Speaker 2: Notre Dame in a bind where you've got maybe that
Speaker 2: returning quarterback and who knows what the eligibility thing is,
Speaker 2: Maybe he wants to take a run at the NFL
Speaker 2: for so, I mean, who knows you're in Book?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it strikes me as but you're really
Speaker 1: coming at me today, You're just is my presence permeating
Speaker 1: your takes? The snarkiness is permeating the show. Sorry.
Speaker 2: I feel for the group of five schools. I think
Speaker 2: they're the big losers, certainly in the Power five. It's
Speaker 2: uh going to put you in a bit of a
Speaker 2: state of financial ruin. That's the oppositor to me.
Speaker 1: Schools who have recruited really really well recent and can
Speaker 1: absorb the loss of newly eligible to the NFL for
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft players, Your traditional powers, you know, may
Speaker 1: perhaps coaches in year two who have put together their
Speaker 1: first real recruiting cycle and so they have their players
Speaker 1: in the system and have more time to get to
Speaker 1: know their players and you know, strengths and weaknesses if
Speaker 1: there's able to be practiced in some way. I also
Speaker 1: think big losers are new coaches, because new coaches are
Speaker 1: desperate to see what they have with their players and
Speaker 1: to see what the new school is like, and just
Speaker 1: to to get out on the field and make sense
Speaker 1: of everything in either a year zero or a year
Speaker 1: one situation. Those are, you know, Mike Norvell at Florida State.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, yeah, yeah, let yeah, all
Speaker 1: these guys, those are those are big losers who are
Speaker 1: and it's champing at the bed I learned, But you
Speaker 1: can also say chomping at the bed to just know
Speaker 1: what they have, know what it's like to be a
Speaker 1: head coach for these guys. Those are those are some
Speaker 1: pretty big losers there This is a fun question.
Speaker 2: It's from Dan, and then beneath Dan is one from Dave.
Speaker 2: So we've got Dan and Dave coming back to back here.
Speaker 1: Shout out rebox, shout out?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Dan klobash? All right, I don't know, Dan, it is?
Speaker 1: It is. I'm telling you it is.
Speaker 2: If there is spring football, how will we designate the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one spring and fall seasons? Twenty one A
Speaker 2: and twenty one B, twenty twenty one and twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one Dash two Judgment season twenty one A New Hope
Speaker 2: in twenty one, the season Strikes Back twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: Excellent Adventure in twenty twenty one Bogus Journey.
Speaker 1: This is a fantic question. Yeah, it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just going to be Spring twenty one, Fall twenty one.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a semester type thing I would imagine,
Speaker 1: So I would say twenty twenty one spring semester, Fall semester.
Speaker 2: But let's get creative with this, Dan, you know, like
Speaker 2: you've done the acc fatlantic m hmm. We've come up
Speaker 2: with great names like Duke of Hazzard, Alan Wizard. Right,
Speaker 2: there's a creative outfit here.
Speaker 1: Spring forward fall back. I was thinking something like that,
Speaker 1: got to incorporate the spring in the fall. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think daylight savings is a sham. We've all watched VEEP.
Speaker 1: We know. Sure. Okay, so you're talking spring and fall
Speaker 1: seasons and how we go about I mean spring break.
Speaker 1: What is a good idiom with fall? By the way,
Speaker 1: if we have a season, you're in this fall break too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is a fall break. But if we have a
Speaker 1: season in the spring and it ends after six weeks,
Speaker 1: that's a spring break. B R A k E. Because
Speaker 1: pcast tie right, I'll give it some more thought. You
Speaker 1: can let us know how. It's weird. It's hard to
Speaker 1: imagine they'd have a spring, a full spring, and a
Speaker 1: full fall season. It's hard to imagine they would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna need you to play to some teams. I
Speaker 1: don't twenty eight games, twenty nine games in twenty that's
Speaker 1: a lot to ask. That's a lot to ask guys
Speaker 1: to just take a summer off and not have a
Speaker 1: full offseason. And what that does to recruiting and official
Speaker 1: visits and signing classes. I don't know. I think it's
Speaker 1: if anything is going to happen. I think it'll be
Speaker 1: an attempted fall season. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: and then they're going to try again in August of
Speaker 1: next year if they really feel good about like a
Speaker 1: Banger's only five game schedule in April May, I can
Speaker 1: understand having five and then a full season in the fall.
Speaker 1: Beyond that it's too far to ass Then you're going
Speaker 1: to see a lot more PAC twelve Players United, ACC
Speaker 1: Players United, Mountain West Players United. All that's going to
Speaker 1: start up to really come into play. I mean, we
Speaker 1: saw what happened when what the NFL tried to add
Speaker 1: one more game and what the players union push back on.
Speaker 1: So and I understand why they didn't want her two
Speaker 1: more games. Whatever, I think it's gonna get pretty dicey,
Speaker 1: all right, So we don't I'll think on names till
Speaker 1: got to think on this. We'll put this out there,
Speaker 1: maybe on social media. That'd be a good one. Dave,
Speaker 1: staying with the subject of playing games in the spring,
Speaker 1: could we get a non traditional champion if they even
Speaker 1: have a playoff or BCS style champion. This is an
Speaker 1: interesting question to me.
Speaker 2: Dan, you know it's not likely it's the same teams
Speaker 2: playing most of the same teams, right, they're just confining
Speaker 2: it a little bit more to conference. But I'll harken
Speaker 2: back to something I said on the last show. Without
Speaker 2: the non conference games, typically you would use those just
Speaker 2: to get a check on where teams are relative to
Speaker 2: one another. It's much tougher to compare conferences if you
Speaker 2: don't have the non conference games. So without that, in
Speaker 2: lieu of that, again, it is Barry Alvarez or people
Speaker 2: like Barry Alvarez in a room arguing about it, and
Speaker 2: that to me seems like a great recipe for some
Speaker 2: weird stuff to happen. Now, it is going to be
Speaker 2: tough to leave the big guns out, the Clemsons and
Speaker 2: the Ohio States and certainly the Oklahomas, right.
Speaker 1: But it stands to reason.
Speaker 2: I think if it were going to happen at all,
Speaker 2: and if we were going to have a weird like
Speaker 2: odd ball team that works their way into the playoff,
Speaker 2: this would sort of be the year that it would
Speaker 2: happen because everything that we'll have to go on will
Speaker 2: be much more of a limited sample size.
Speaker 1: What if hear me out, what if we in the
Speaker 1: way that there are different cups right in European Soccer.
Speaker 1: There are different tournaments and even though you didn't win
Speaker 1: the Champions League, you won euro or FA or what right,
Speaker 1: So what if any way that we've ever determined a
Speaker 1: national champion is brought back, And especially if there's no
Speaker 1: college football playoff and the season just ends after conference
Speaker 1: championship games and we have three ten and zero teams
Speaker 1: and two nine and one teams, and then in the
Speaker 1: G five level we've got a couple undefeated teams and
Speaker 1: it's like wow, I mean, this is the American was
Speaker 1: really tough this year. This you know, Houston has to
Speaker 1: be given consideration. ECU has to be considered given consideration.
Speaker 1: Whatever I think we have a BCS champion, I think
Speaker 1: we have we don't have a college Yeah, let's call
Speaker 1: it a college football national College fotball playoff national champion.
Speaker 1: That's just determined by the playoff committee. There's no actual playoff.
Speaker 1: It's just a playoff committee champion. There is a college
Speaker 1: coalition champ. So whoever would have won the Orange Bowl
Speaker 1: or something that year. There is every single way that
Speaker 1: you know, there's an AP champion, there's a coaches champion,
Speaker 1: every single way. Everything has to be fully transparent, and
Speaker 1: we just have like seven national champions. Seven national champions. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, why not? I mean, it's it's such a weird,
Speaker 1: like to just say, Okay, Alabama or Georgia or Ohio
Speaker 1: State went undefeated and they had the best margin of
Speaker 1: victory and it was clear that, you know, they were
Speaker 1: a class above in a way that no other team
Speaker 1: was a class above. They're the national champion as boring, Ty,
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1: So I I'd like it to be uh, sort of
Speaker 1: more up in the air. I think that's the way
Speaker 1: to go, because it's such an up in the air season,
Speaker 1: you might as well make the national champion.
Speaker 2: Weird Patrick, Who are your top five running backs going
Speaker 2: into the twenty twenty season?
Speaker 1: Hm? Question? I did some resun for this, Ty, so
Speaker 1: did I.
Speaker 2: Travis Etn is my alpha. A close second is Chewba Hubbard.
Speaker 2: After that, I have a little bit more trouble. After that,
Speaker 2: I start looking at guys like Kennedy Brooks.
Speaker 1: I start looking at your boys. CJ. Verdell, my boy,
Speaker 1: Jerny Brown's the name I wrote down, Yeah, Kylon Hill,
Speaker 1: I have Hawkins from He's pretty good. I have Najie Harris,
Speaker 1: I have Kante Ingram performed well against good teams, Jerry
Speaker 1: and eally Ole miss now So certainly wasn't a workhorse
Speaker 1: last year. But the best of Jerry and Eely was
Speaker 1: really strong. It's a good I mean, I don't like
Speaker 1: putting freshmen on this level yet. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: At Georgia was Amir White, who's finally hopefully healthy. Man.
Speaker 1: This will be I feel like I'm generally more excited
Speaker 1: about a returning CJ. Verdell was good and had some
Speaker 1: really nice long runs, but also some more inconsistent play
Speaker 1: earlier on in the season. Mostly I think Stanford and
Speaker 1: Auburn were not great. But yeah, I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I'm as excited about the running back class going into
Speaker 1: the season as I normally am. I don't know, Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm forgetting a lot of guys. We'll see
Speaker 1: Trace sarmon Ohio State, Yep, yep, Arbone.
Speaker 2: I am not that excited about the quarterback class. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I'm okay with the quarterback class.
Speaker 2: We had Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: There. It all starts with Chase Garber's for you.
Speaker 2: Sure, then after Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence, who's like
Speaker 2: your third best quarterback in college football?
Speaker 1: Oh? McHale, obviously, what are you talking about.
Speaker 2: That's a question, who's your third best quarterback? Mckail Cunningham,
Speaker 2: that's your answer? It might be I like mckail cunningham.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, nothing but really good?
Speaker 1: No. I think it's a fascinating here. So okay, here's
Speaker 1: why it's fascinating. So we've seen a lot of very
Speaker 1: very good sam Ellinger and seen some unfortunate sam Ellinger.
Speaker 1: But we know him, We're familiar with him. We know
Speaker 1: what the Sam Ellinger experience is about, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: to have another year with it. Maybe not all Texas
Speaker 1: fans are with some of his not his fun game.
Speaker 1: I think he's underrated. Spencer Ratler is exciting to me
Speaker 1: because he should. We've seen Oklahoma track record. He should
Speaker 1: have a good year.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, mister permeation, Wait a set. Okay, the
Speaker 2: question was about top five running backsh and.
Speaker 1: I shifted it to like top whatever quarter I'm Spencer
Speaker 1: Rattler in that I'm not saying I'm saying I'm more
Speaker 1: excited about the quarterbacks in the twenty twenty season. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying these are my top five, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: as a general rule, the running backs that we know
Speaker 1: about and potentially we're going to see step into a
Speaker 1: bigger role. It's there are some years where quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: not that interesting. I think with what's happening at big school.
Speaker 1: So you have Mac Jones and Bryce Young at Alabama,
Speaker 1: so a more veteran, steady hand and then the promising freshman.
Speaker 1: We've seen that situation with Alabama before. Recently, Clemson's all set,
Speaker 1: Ohio State's all set. But Oregon Joe Morehead, Tyler Shuck
Speaker 1: I think is interesting. Washington is wide open. Chase Garber's
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody on the West Coast that talks about
Speaker 1: back twelve football will say, well, he's never lost a
Speaker 1: game that he played all of in twenty nineteen. The city,
Speaker 1: you know, Keaton Slovas I think is probably worthy of
Speaker 1: top five quarterbacks in the country consideration. I think so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Yeah, I think across the
Speaker 1: sport there's I think there's more intrigue than there is
Speaker 1: proven and reliable. But it's interesting to me and in
Speaker 1: normally yours in normal years, when you've got that kind
Speaker 1: of uncertainty at the quarterback position, you get some wild results. Yeah,
Speaker 1: truely absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, and so I I sort of
Speaker 2: share your curiosity around the quarterback position. But in terms
Speaker 2: of like guys that we could really hang our hat
Speaker 2: on outside of Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence, maybe Sam
Speaker 2: Howell and Keaton Slovas Sam Ellinger, like outside of a
Speaker 2: very small select group, there really is a lot of
Speaker 2: uncertainty there.
Speaker 1: Hat hanging is overrated. Wild cards, Tie, wild that's underrated.
Speaker 1: All right, give me some non football. We got time
Speaker 1: for like three or four? Uh wow, Okay, So this
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be selfish about this one, both because I
Speaker 1: think there's people are either in their homes and they're
Speaker 1: just really making the most of their time at home
Speaker 1: during this time, or perhaps there's some movement happening, you know,
Speaker 1: you're moving closer to family during this time or whatever.
Speaker 1: So Tie, specifically, this is a question from Tyler, and
Speaker 1: it's probably for you. Tips for moving to a new
Speaker 1: house beyond hydrating and stretching, which are both very important,
Speaker 1: I would say maybe maybe take Adville ahead of time
Speaker 1: before you move pieces of heavy furniture. Ty, I'm about
Speaker 1: to move into a rental house. Yeah, you recently purchased
Speaker 1: a house and moved in from not that far away.
Speaker 1: If you had to give everybody listening tips about what
Speaker 1: to do when moving into a new house, both the
Speaker 1: physical move and what you should do once you're already settled,
Speaker 1: what would they be As for the physical move?
Speaker 2: If you can afford to get movers. Oh yeah, if
Speaker 2: you can afford to get movers, that's a pro.
Speaker 1: Tip right there. Okay, I appreciate that we have. You
Speaker 1: do have movers. We do excellent.
Speaker 2: So that's a huge relief right there. The second thing
Speaker 2: that I would say moving into a new house is
Speaker 2: get intimately familiar with some of the di y YouTube tutorials.
Speaker 1: Oh good, call.
Speaker 2: I have learned more about amateur plumbing odds and ends
Speaker 2: around the house. Have really tried to stay away from
Speaker 2: the electrical, but most other stuff. YouTube has been a godsend.
Speaker 1: What did you have to buy the most of because
Speaker 1: you moved in from like a townhouse situation to a
Speaker 1: full on house an foa I did? Yeah, what were
Speaker 1: the big purchases early on? Well, the big purchases.
Speaker 2: Is that we we needed we we didn't we didn't
Speaker 2: have enough furniture because we moved into a bigger place
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, yeah, we we had some empty
Speaker 2: rooms here, so trying to figure out what goes where
Speaker 2: and how some of our old stuff would fit in
Speaker 2: with the new place. That that led to a lot
Speaker 2: of furniture purchases.
Speaker 1: Your big arm R guy me huge arm or guy.
Speaker 1: You know that about everybody knows that. About timebody knows that, pa,
Speaker 1: and it's on my Twitter bio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I The furniture thing kind of caught me
Speaker 2: off guard, and so yeah, I would say if you
Speaker 2: do the movers, do the movers. Otherwise, get get familiar
Speaker 2: with the YouTube DIY section and uh, you know, be
Speaker 2: prepared to try out some new stuff. Don't do anything
Speaker 2: crazy like try to fix your own garage door. I
Speaker 2: tried that and almost killed my stone.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. That sounds dumb.
Speaker 2: Don't don't try that. There's a lot of tension there.
Speaker 2: Please don't try that. But as for things like amateur.
Speaker 1: Plumbing and you know, just play it by your and
Speaker 1: don't overextend yourself if it looks too difficult. Do you
Speaker 1: have like a checklist of when, especially because I'm living
Speaker 1: in cold weather, which like when valves need to be
Speaker 1: looked at, making sure water hasn't gone into a basement,
Speaker 1: making sure pipes don't freeze. Do you have a checklist?
Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, it's getting a little cold. I have
Speaker 1: to do like a a once over of the old house,
Speaker 1: ARU and stuff like that. Well, we have the heating
Speaker 1: and cooling guy who comes twice a year, okay, and
Speaker 1: that's on a schedule as long as you pay your bill, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: No big deal there. Most of the other stuff is
Speaker 1: sort of as you need it, okay, and sometimes it's
Speaker 1: not always apparent when you need it. That's something that
Speaker 1: I think you'll learn as to you as you get
Speaker 1: a house. But I got to get a grill that
Speaker 1: ideally has a gas line hook up. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have a recommendation. And I'm speaking to both
Speaker 1: of you and anybody listening. I don't need a huge grill.
Speaker 1: It's just me and solid wife Jody with an eye. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Kate's solid wife. It's just me Jody with an eye
Speaker 1: and the solid a toddler. But don't need a huge one.
Speaker 1: Don't need a smoker, but it'd be nice to have
Speaker 1: a quality one that that gets hot, can can make
Speaker 1: all sorts of meats and vegetables on it. That'd be great.
Speaker 1: Got some patio furniture coming, Yeah, we could talk. We
Speaker 1: can talk about this, all right. I was excited. I
Speaker 1: need a Pellett girl, tie, What do I need? Pellet grill?
Speaker 1: Gotta get gotta get a gas grill. Man. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess if I'm getting natural gas line girl, I don't
Speaker 1: need a pellet girl. But yeah, all right, I figure
Speaker 1: that out. So yeah, I'm gonna pre Advil. I think
Speaker 1: that's big Advil. Not a sponsor, but heavy usage. Next question,
Speaker 1: James says, when you close your eyes and say the
Speaker 1: phrase college football Saturday, Yeah, college football Saturday, what do
Speaker 1: you visualize? Uh? Right now? Is how you're interpreting this.
Speaker 1: I guess so more missed moments bea of child care,
Speaker 1: which is fine, love the solid toddler, but that's different.
Speaker 1: And I suppose more room because I'll be in a
Speaker 1: house college football Saturday. When I close my eyes, I
Speaker 1: feel that Crisp bear. Did you mount your TVs? By
Speaker 1: the way, No, I didn't have you ever mounted a TV?
Speaker 2: I have?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could help you with that. Did you do it? So?
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the actual process. I have a
Speaker 1: sixty five inch TV. I don't know, it's probably ways
Speaker 1: forty pounds or so. Did you do it solo? Did
Speaker 1: you do it with the help of a friend? Did
Speaker 1: you hire somebody to do it for you? No? I
Speaker 1: did it with the help of a friend. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what that's my gut. Yeah. Yeah, but you could do
Speaker 1: it with Jody with it eye, you just know a
Speaker 1: couple pro tips for how to get that thing mounted. Okay,
Speaker 1: the brackets are already there, so that that part's that
Speaker 1: You're fine? Oh okay, then you're fine. Done? All right, Dan,
Speaker 1: Where do we want to go next? Give me a question, Well,
Speaker 1: you didn't technically to the truffle oil or Cajun seasoning
Speaker 1: and tots or fries question, I'll go tots or fries.
Speaker 1: So which one? If you'd rather eat truffle oil, Cajun
Speaker 1: seasoning solo or tots and fries. Would you prefer a
Speaker 1: truffle oil on a tot or fry cajun?
Speaker 2: I don't even know what a truffle oil is, So
Speaker 2: you know what truffle oil is I have no idea
Speaker 2: Cajun seasoning.
Speaker 1: Truffles are similar to mushrooms. I know that, but I've
Speaker 1: never had truffle oil. I think you have. So you're
Speaker 1: saying Cajun season what fries are tots? I'll do tots same.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Okay, let's go to another question.
Speaker 1: Got at we got actually have a bunch of good ones.
Speaker 1: You want to go to Brandon Cavanaugh? Sure, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm going to revise his question because I don't know
Speaker 1: enough college football players personally and about their personalities as much.
Speaker 1: Let's say a documentary is being put together about how
Speaker 1: college football players are training, slash live their lives during
Speaker 1: the pandemic. Name five current players you'd like to see
Speaker 1: profiled in a documentary. I'm going to revise this tie.
Speaker 1: If you could pick any one position to have a
Speaker 1: different player playing that position at five different schools profiled.
Speaker 1: What position on the football you know you want five quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: Do you want a documentary following around quarterbacks? I feel
Speaker 1: like that's been done so many times. I say definitely not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going to self aware largely, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to just have good pr about them.
Speaker 2: Give me wide receivers. Wide receivers, you get a pretty
Speaker 2: good spectrum. You'll get the short like jitterbug types like
Speaker 2: ron Dale.
Speaker 1: Moore who can do everything. You'll get the big dogs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but is he a good documentary fodder? Is he funny dishes?
Speaker 1: Is he funny friends? I don't know that about any
Speaker 1: of these guys, do you right? You know, I think
Speaker 1: these guys wide receivers. I think there's a natural confidence
Speaker 1: to a lot of wide receivers. Sure, and you have
Speaker 1: to have a self assured nature you're going across the middle,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's right. I think my answer
Speaker 1: is probably going to be either offensive tackle or defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: because those dudes they're both valued because they play incredibly
Speaker 1: important positions. So there's going to be a certain degree
Speaker 1: of confidence and self assuredness to them as well. But
Speaker 1: also they're navigating a world that they're not necessarily built
Speaker 1: to because they're huge. You know, the college apartments aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily built for huge dudes, and so I think a
Speaker 1: lot of them have to develop a sense of humor
Speaker 1: about themselves. So I'm going to go with with the
Speaker 1: large men here. A lot of eating I think I
Speaker 1: think that's the way to go. Ty, I'll go wide out.
Speaker 2: Give me ron Dale Moore, Tyland Wallace for show Bateman,
Speaker 2: I'm on rass Saint Brown.
Speaker 1: And Chris Olave. I have no idea if that would
Speaker 1: be interesting, but thank you. I'm just going large dudes,
Speaker 1: Large dudes. Two more questions here from the non I
Speaker 1: mean I liked watching Marvin Wilson. I think Marvin Wilson
Speaker 1: be my list. You see Martin Wilson be fun? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd be fun. Any other question? Oh, this one. I
Speaker 1: thought it's it's a football question, but I thought it
Speaker 1: was fascinating. Ty, we can end with a football question.
Speaker 1: Surprise on topic question from the Rexologist. Then, if you
Speaker 1: saw via Twitter, I believe on sports Wars shout out
Speaker 1: sports Wars available via Wondering, you spoke about how one
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma's biggest moments in the Texas Oklahoma rivalry was
Speaker 1: when they started getting recruits from Texas for other cross
Speaker 1: state rivalries. What does a more quote program foundation event
Speaker 1: look like? And this person says the bias would be Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin with any is good? So what what do you
Speaker 1: just in general? What to you has swung shifted program
Speaker 1: success level. What are those big moments that you know,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma recruiting Texas players and building in roads in Texas
Speaker 1: is going to be huge. What to you and I
Speaker 1: don't you don't need to be specific, but what sorts
Speaker 1: of events permeate successfully growing programs.
Speaker 2: Non conference matchups something that we will likely be without
Speaker 2: this year, that exposure.
Speaker 1: But do you think, like one, yeah, I guess in
Speaker 1: the case of Boise State, that's true that they raise
Speaker 1: their profile to such a crazy degree with you know,
Speaker 1: Georgia and Virginia Tech and Oregon.
Speaker 2: I think non conference matchups can play a part. I
Speaker 2: certainly think the postseason can play a part as well,
Speaker 2: even though those games maybe don't mean as much if
Speaker 2: you're not in the playoff for one of the big
Speaker 2: Bowl games. But you know, you're really ultimately talking about exposure.
Speaker 2: What can get you exposure, what can put you on
Speaker 2: the map, And if you take down a giant, I think,
Speaker 2: I think that's a seminal moment, that's an important thing.
Speaker 2: So I would throw that in there as well. I
Speaker 2: would also add, you know, I know it's probably not
Speaker 2: totally applicable for a school like an LSU or an
Speaker 2: Oregon because they are already among the most prominent college
Speaker 2: football programs. But if you can get like a sweet
Speaker 2: news hit about facilities or uniforms, just something that's novel
Speaker 2: and new and potentially very interesting to incoming recruits, I
Speaker 2: think that's interesting.
Speaker 1: That's a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pr hit as opposed to like something
Speaker 2: that's earth shattering. But it's a tiny little moments like
Speaker 2: that that can eventually add up and make your program
Speaker 2: I think more appealing to some of.
Speaker 1: Those those top level recruits. Yeah, I think all those
Speaker 1: are right. I think systems become really important in terms
Speaker 1: of defining programs and raising profiles. We saw what happened
Speaker 1: with you know, Florida under Steve Spurrier, or you know
Speaker 1: the military academies running the option, and you know, it
Speaker 1: establishes a reputation, it establishes an identity. You know, if
Speaker 1: I'm going to use an Oregon example, it's having a
Speaker 1: miracle season the way that Oregon did in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: four where they go to the Rose Bowl. They eventually
Speaker 1: get spanked by Penn State, but that raised Oregon's profile
Speaker 1: and it got the attention of Phil Knight, built them
Speaker 1: an indoor practice facility after Mike Blotti was like, okay,
Speaker 1: what can we do? And then Nike became more involved
Speaker 1: with Oregon, and obviously the branding of the uniforms and
Speaker 1: the flashy style and the coaching hires that becomes big.
Speaker 1: I think continuity with coaches. You know, we still associate
Speaker 1: Kansas State with Bill Snyder, right because he's recruiting junior
Speaker 1: college players. They're beating teams with more resources and it's
Speaker 1: just scrappy Little Manhattan, Kansas, Kansas State, you know, beating Giants,
Speaker 1: beating Oklahoma, beating Texas, and it's the continuity of a
Speaker 1: Bill Snyder program. We saw it with Bobby Bowden at
Speaker 1: Florida State and Joe Paterno at Penn State, where it's
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, the identity is tied to these coaches,
Speaker 1: and you know what you're getting when you watch a
Speaker 1: Penn State team from the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties or
Speaker 1: a Florida State team in the nineties. I think conference
Speaker 1: membership becomes a pretty huge change for teams. You know what.
Speaker 1: You know, Utah was considered to be and TCU was
Speaker 1: considered to be in West Virginia, and you know this
Speaker 1: movement around conferences I think is a pretty huge deal
Speaker 1: in terms of perception and identity and success in general,
Speaker 1: and so force of personality among coaches I think is big.
Speaker 1: You know, Minnesota I think was in need probably of
Speaker 1: a reboot, and PJ. Fleck has done it so far.
Speaker 1: Really interesting, fascinating, successful job in Minneapolis. So I think
Speaker 1: there are a lot of a lot of it goes
Speaker 1: to coaches, but having those magical seasons. I think if
Speaker 1: you think about Northwestern football and what they did in
Speaker 1: the what mid nineties really has still to this day
Speaker 1: set the tone of Northwestern as like a scrappy, winning,
Speaker 1: well put together program, I think that's I think it's
Speaker 1: you know, a lot is tied back to coaches, But
Speaker 1: when you have those singular events, like you talked about
Speaker 1: that big win, that big moment that you know, we're
Speaker 1: still talking about Boise State in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: We're still talking about, you know, the giant Killers and
Speaker 1: the trick plays of Boise State, those become seminal foundational
Speaker 1: moments that define a program sort of almost in perpetuity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the Statue of Liberty play, I mean we
Speaker 2: went back, we we talked about that.
Speaker 1: Game right, and it was ultimately a big old exhibition game.
Speaker 1: But Boise had been building to that moment for years
Speaker 1: and look, it was a great game. If it weren't
Speaker 1: such a great game, maybe we're not talking about it,
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't have that kind of outsized impact all
Speaker 1: these years later. But fun game to watch and it
Speaker 1: definitely helped put Boise on the map. Final question here,
Speaker 1: I got one more question. Yeah, this is from Cody.
Speaker 1: Next year, my wife and I will celebrate ten years
Speaker 1: of marriage. In the early days, we hash out a
Speaker 1: contract that allowed each person full control of what's on
Speaker 1: the TV during a certain part of the season. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I negotiated for college football season. This was a loose
Speaker 1: agreement early on, but became more formalized as the years
Speaker 1: had passed. It includes addendums for bowl season, if my
Speaker 1: team reaches the playoffs, and the off season things like
Speaker 1: the draft, National Signing Day, et cetera. During the season,
Speaker 1: I'm able to watch whatever games I want, knowing that
Speaker 1: in the off season I get no say. With lots
Speaker 1: of reality TV during her time, I've learned about this
Speaker 1: tie continue with the season starting later and still possibly
Speaker 1: on the brink of being canceled altogether. What suggestions do
Speaker 1: you have for what I should do slash watch during
Speaker 1: my time? Should I ask for an addendum because of
Speaker 1: the pandemic and if so, what would that be? Any
Speaker 1: other thoughts or suggestions, Cody, this is a hell of
Speaker 1: a question, sir. First off, congratulations on ten years or
Speaker 1: oh yeah, coming anniversary? I want marriage suggestions from the
Speaker 1: man who said maybe be passive aggressive about the dog
Speaker 1: sleeping in your bad as your big power tip. Much
Speaker 1: to our friend Andy Wall's horror.
Speaker 2: Again, the snarkiness permeates that side of the conversation.
Speaker 1: It's the new Chicago. Would you like to tell me
Speaker 1: all the answers here? Or do I get a say? No?
Speaker 1: You know why, sir, let's hear what you got. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: if you're claiming saturdays during the college football season, you're
Speaker 1: claiming fifteen saturdays. You know, perhaps you're only really watching
Speaker 1: TV at night and on weekends. That's my assumption. Not
Speaker 1: a lot of people spend all day watching TV on
Speaker 1: a random Thursday. So if the full season is canceled,
Speaker 1: I say you just keep those saturdays to watch what
Speaker 1: you want to watch. And if there's if you can't
Speaker 1: think of anything that fills out your complete fall run
Speaker 1: of Saturdays. Just take some my ouse, just say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to take half of these for
Speaker 1: shows I want to watch, and then I'm going to
Speaker 1: take half of these. We I'm going to take a
Speaker 1: quarter of these for shows I want to watch, and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to pull these forward to the spring.
Speaker 1: I'm going to defer, and you know I'm not going
Speaker 1: to take I'm not going to make the decision at
Speaker 1: opening kickoff. I'm going to defer till the spring. I
Speaker 1: think that's an option you have. I would say, do
Speaker 1: a lot of research about shows that you've heard are good.
Speaker 1: Maybe you watch the pilots yourself. You're like, I've always
Speaker 1: heard Fargo is good. I've always heard The Wire is good.
Speaker 1: I've always heard, you know, Breaking Bad is good, Insecure
Speaker 1: or whatever. Always heard these shows are great. What about
Speaker 1: watching all of or some of the pilot and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to waste my pick
Speaker 1: on this show because it turns out I'm not into
Speaker 1: it at all. And so that's the way you go.
Speaker 1: You got to do your own scouting, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got a pilot Scout pilot Scout, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you have shows. Ty, do you
Speaker 1: have a show right now? You're like, I'd really like
Speaker 1: to watch that, but I'm not sure about the old
Speaker 1: Kate taste.
Speaker 2: Kate's not into not into billions. I've gotten into billions,
Speaker 2: not into billions, Succession. I haven't gotten into Succession yet.
Speaker 2: Now do you think she would like to know anything
Speaker 2: about Succession?
Speaker 1: Really about it? Ty bars on the floor, Ty, you
Speaker 1: need to watch Succession, even if it's does she go
Speaker 1: to bed earlier than you sometimes not all the time?
Speaker 1: Take a take a late time night and watch the
Speaker 1: pilot of Succession. There's only two seasons. I think there's
Speaker 1: only ten episodes in each season.
Speaker 2: I would tell this gentleman here on the floor. I
Speaker 2: would tell this gentleman here that, uh, if you can
Speaker 2: defer to springtime, you know, provided there is no season,
Speaker 2: that's got to be your first move. And you know,
Speaker 2: I say that with the recognition of the fact that
Speaker 2: it could overlap some of the reality TV stuff, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know what the state of production is in
Speaker 2: the reality TV universe, but my guess is it's not
Speaker 2: doing great at the moment, so.
Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a backlog problem.
Speaker 2: Whether it's a bad I don't know what the deal
Speaker 2: is there, But my only point is that you could
Speaker 2: have some overlap and that could make things interesting if
Speaker 2: you push it off to the spring. I would probably
Speaker 2: just go on like Netflix right now and just find
Speaker 2: stuff that you're both into and just stick with that.
Speaker 1: That's the problem, though, That's that's the tough one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I want to watch an episode about Wahawk and
Speaker 1: street food of some food show on Netflix and Jody
Speaker 1: with and I wants to watch Lennox Hill and people
Speaker 1: like die of brain surgery and the emotions that go
Speaker 1: along with that. That's not how I want to spend
Speaker 1: my time, but I do it sometimes, and it's it's
Speaker 1: what was the last show? I won't I won't tell
Speaker 1: her ty, what was the last show that you watched
Speaker 1: that you weren't into but you watched it because you're
Speaker 1: part of a partnership. I mean, that's most of the shows, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Just give me the show. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say anything. I'm not sensing it that loud.
Speaker 1: It's most of the shows. Okay, what which one was?
Speaker 1: Was truly pulling teeth.
Speaker 2: I forget the name of this movie, Dan, but it
Speaker 2: was about like a weird cult in Norway and they
Speaker 2: were cannibals. And Kate was like, oh, I heard this
Speaker 2: is really good. It was like something summer I forget
Speaker 2: s O M M. I R very strange movie.
Speaker 1: Not for me. She thought it was terrific. I was like, A,
Speaker 1: I don't know about this. What I think is going
Speaker 1: to happen. By the way, is I think a lot
Speaker 1: of shows that were too bad to get picked up
Speaker 1: and purchased and they're just sitting on a shelf somewhere.
Speaker 1: Netflix is like floor is Lava? Okay, summer summer mid
Speaker 1: s O M mar excuse me? Okay, yeah, mine was
Speaker 1: probably lenox l weird flick just didn't want to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, good question to go out on.
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