1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Holl that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: for a day? Edith Steak is that woof? Woof? And 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: then and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal Boys 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: and girls. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: My name is ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as always over 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: there the one and onldly Dan Rubinstein, Sir, sir, sir, 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: how you doing. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Ty I'm doing good. I'm I'm on some new shit. 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: Been saying yes yeah instead of no. I thought I 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: saw you at the bus stop. I didn't. You'd been 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: listening to folklore? Haven't you time into it? I'm into it? 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: The new t swift dropped what two weeks ago before 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: our podcast. We found out about it before our podcast, 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: something like that. 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's good, it's good. It's different. It's good. 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Walk in music, Tye, walk, you gotta go for a walk. 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: I push the solid toddler. We'll go for a walk. 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: We'll go over to a park or something like that. 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: And maybe while he's, you know, running around flirting with 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: the ladies, going on some swings, maybe I'll pop in 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: a song or two. Give me a soundtrack. Usually I 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: like the nat sound, as they say, but it's good 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: walk in music. Sometimes, just maybe after he goes down 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: for the night, I'll go for a walk in the neighborhood. 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: We'll just throw on some T Swift, sometimes a podcast, 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: sometimes folklore, Supreme Washed list activity. Oh ty, I'm advanced. 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: I've been practicing go on that nice long walk after dinner. 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. We have broken the seal 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: on August. As we get a little bit closer to 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: whatever this season is going to look like, we do 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: have some news on that front that we're going to 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: get through. Also, of note, we put out the call 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: earlier that we wanted to take your questions again. It's August. 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: We generally do one or two of these shows, these 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: Q and A type shows per month, and now that 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: we are getting seemingly closer to a season, it's time 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: for us to do previews. Mister Rubinstein, Yeah, we are approaching. 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that time, but it's not an 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: annual time that we do this, So yeah, it appears 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: that it's time for us to do so. I'm very 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: excited to dive in the Big twelve is where we're 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: starting in the Big twelve. As we're recording this later 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: in the week we were recording this early on, they're 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: going to announce more schedule specifics, so we'll be armed 47 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: with more data to talk about what Brock Purdy has 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: in front of him, or what Sam Ellinger has in 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: front of him, or Keyante Ingram is running into stuff 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: like that. So I'm excited. I am too. 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: It feels good to actually go in and do a 52 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: deep dive on some of these teams, so I'm excited. 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: That'll be on Friday that show drops, We're going to 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: start previews, and each of the next what four or 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: five shows after that will also be previews as we 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: build towards again, whatever format this season takes on, we 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: will be with you, cheering loudly, hoping that. 58 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: It stays safe and that it's fun. Voice is going up. 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Got to raise the register here, Dan. It's been a 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: long off season and still an uncertain one at that. Yeah, 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: and I'm excited because obviously timing is pretty variable. We 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: are going to have opportunities as we increase the rate 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: with which we record to maybe update some previews. A 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: quarterback wins the job, somebody gets hurt, a coach gets fired, 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: another schedule adjustment happens, So we're leaving ourselves some wiggle 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: room given the revised scheduling as it stands August third, 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: today's a third word. 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: This is going to drop on the fifth, so they 69 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: could call the whole damn thing off by the time 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: the show drops. 71 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's actually good that we make that 72 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: clear because a lot of news drops every hour right now, 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: be it with players uniting and taking stands and asking 74 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: a conference for a us min's to how student athletes 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: quote unquote are treated, or with how schedules are revised, 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: or anything coaches made all that they should be. Come on, 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: come on, come on, it's just clear that we're recording 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: this Monday, August third. That's all. Also going out to 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 1: Solid verbal dot com slash store and buy the new shirt, 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: the techmost Solid Verbal I believe is what you called it. 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But if you haven't already, 110 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: just gone out to Solid verbal dot com and sign 111 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: up for our newsletter. You can also follow along on 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: social media Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, going out to the subreddit 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: salverb with our reddit dot com. 114 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: All those hot spots can help you stay up to 115 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: date with what we got going on. We got some 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: cool stuff planned and I'm excited. I'll just leave it 117 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: at that for now. More to come, especially if you 118 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: live in christ Church, New Zealand. 119 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: Especially shall we get to that news? Uh? Yeah? Can 120 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: you actually play a breaking news question real quick or 121 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: sound bite? 122 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: Real quick? 123 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: Do? An Instagram user asked us Cajun truffle oil or 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: regular tots slash fries? Which is the best that comes 125 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: to us from qvho that has come in? Tie do? 126 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: I should be a little bit alarmed that we're almost 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: at like fifty to fifty? Hey what five running backs 128 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: you're most looking forward to watching? And hey, what would 129 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: you call chicken wings that are named after you? Guys 130 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: type questions. My answer is basically, anytime I see a 131 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Cajun seasoning option, I roll with it and it rarely 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: steers me in the wrong direction. 133 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, let's get to the actual news here. 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: So you mentioned this at the top, but some news 135 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: towards the latter half of the week last week and 136 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: then materialized a little bit more over the weekend. PAC 137 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: twelve football players are showing unity. They are listing demands 138 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: in a letter to the conference. The group from multiple 139 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: schools they pend a letter. It showed up in the 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: player's tribune, threatening to opt out of fall camp and 141 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: game participation unless their demands for fair treatment, safety regulations, 142 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: and concerns over racial justice for college athletes are met 143 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: by the conference. The letter is signed by players of 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve that uses the hashtag we are united 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: to explain their concerns, saying quote, because NCAA exploits college 146 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: athletes physically, economically, academically, and also disproportionately harms black college 147 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: athletes hashtag we are you and I had dis garnered 148 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: a lot of attention over the last few days. Very 149 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: interested to see where this all goes to what end 150 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve and member schools are able to meet 151 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: some of these demands. I will say that they waited 152 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: for the right time to cash in their bargaining chip 153 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: because right now, with things as uncertain as they are 154 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: in and around the world of college football, if you've 155 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: got a workforce quote unquote workforce that just decides, ah, 156 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: we're good, that would really put things in a bind. 157 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: So I admire the timing of this for sure. 158 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely no, the organization, the timing, the messaging in 159 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: large part, and one of the things I think gets 160 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: overlooked a little bit, this is a negotiation. The grander 161 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: group of college athletes as a whole don't have representation, 162 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: so they've banded together in the way that I guess 163 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: Packed twelve football players can, and that I think it 164 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: started on Group me, started with some Cal football players 165 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: and branched out from there. A lot of pretty well 166 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: known Packed twelve players were on board with this and 167 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: shared the messaging yesterday on social media, so it certainly 168 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: garnered a lot of attention. But yeah, between the health stuff, 169 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: which all made sense, all of the concerns about safety 170 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,479 Speaker 1: protocols and health insurance after playing, nothing really all that unreasonable. 171 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Just a tricky situation. Perhaps with some of the revenue 172 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: ass I think there was an ask for about fifty 173 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: percent of revenue to be distributed to players and dipping 174 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: into endowments, which is more complicated since endowments are earmarked 175 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: for specific things by the people giving the money to save. 176 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: And we saw Stanford cancel a number of Olympic sports. 177 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: The social justice, the racial justice stuff all was it 178 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: just seemed like a no brainer. Let's listen to pe, 179 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Let's create scholarships for low income people more, let's have 180 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: a more open conversation, more due process. All of these 181 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: things from a human level all seem like very reasonable, 182 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: thoughtful asks. One of the I wouldn't say problems is 183 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: just the revenue thing is tough because college football is 184 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: built on not handling revenue all that responsibly as it 185 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: relates to other similar professionalized sports. And so the understanding 186 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: I have is it's the beginning of a negotiation. How 187 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: can we help to distribute revenue with those who help 188 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: to generate it. And I think that is a reasonable conversation, 189 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: a reasonable ask, And the hope is that things evolve 190 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: from a human perspective. You see a lot of people 191 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and this is the straw man argument, come out, whether 192 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: they're in the media, whether they're fans in general. And 193 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's a bad faith place I 194 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: think people like the sport for different reasons, and they 195 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: see say, scholarships and room and board as well. I 196 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: didn't get that they should be lucky that they get that. 197 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to open the can 198 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: of worms thing about what college ball players do and 199 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: don't have, but it's clear this season is largely happening 200 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: for revenue purposes. And the revenue right even a question 201 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: that football helps to generate and helps to garner. So 202 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: if that's the case, these players have even more leverage 203 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: than usual. And we saw I think it was a 204 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: top Washington corner Elijah Molden. He shared something and I 205 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: thought it was very thoughtful. And then Trevor Lawrence, who 206 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: might be the highest profile college football player on the 207 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: planet right now, he shared what Elijah Molden had to say. 208 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: So it seems like you're never going to really get 209 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: change without a ton of buy in from big names 210 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: with big platforms, and that's what we're seeing more and more. 211 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: So I found it to be fascinating. I really hope 212 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: for their sake because and this is I think I 213 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: can speak for you, but I can definitely speak for myself. 214 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: My favorite thing about college football is watching college football 215 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: players play college football. So anything that is college football 216 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: player forward, I'm in favor of. That's my favorite. It's 217 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: my literal favorite part, with grilled Mexican food coming shortly thereafter. Yeah, 218 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: and truly it is the next frontier, Yeah, in college football, 219 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: the players finding their collective voice about this or something else. 220 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: We saw it with the nil legislation, which at some 221 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: point will dive a little bit more into. Yeah, this 222 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: is the next frontier. Where do you see this going realistically? 223 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: And is it something that you could see getting worked 224 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: out or having a like a beta agreement before? I 225 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: think it's fall Camp. I think it's the beta agreement. 226 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: One of their specific asks was for some sort of 227 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: task force to help with some of the racial injustice 228 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: topics that were voice in this letter. That strikes me 229 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: as a quick win, something that can be organized very 230 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: quickly and can have great effect. There are other things 231 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: here that are more systemic, right, Like the whole financial 232 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: model here is a big deal, right, Yeah, that's a 233 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: system upon which the entire sport is built. It's going 234 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: to take a while to work through the details on 235 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 2: that front, but I think if we can get some 236 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: sort of buy in from member institutions that they're going 237 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 2: to work with this group of players. That's where I 238 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: would expect this to go next. 239 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, And there are a number of smart 240 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: people you can follow on this on social media. I 241 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: saw Michael Felder, who's terrific. I think he's I don't 242 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: know if he's Michael Felder in the bleachers on Twitter, 243 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: but we've been following him forever. He played defensive back 244 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: at North Carolina and mentioned the facilities thing. Why do 245 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: exorbitant and beautiful facilities exist. Well, it's sort of a 246 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: recruiting arms race. It's to keep players in the facility, 247 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: watching film, being around other players, buying in and not 248 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: necessarily becoming full college students. And it's even more recruiting. 249 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: It's even more recruiting. And so one of the things 250 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: that the players in the PAC twelve United statement made 251 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: was we're spending so much money on everything but the 252 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: people on the field. And so that's the interesting thing 253 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: to me is how this changes the bottom line and 254 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: the spreadsheets across the sport, Because what a Texas spreadsheet, 255 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: what an Ohio State spreadsheet looks like, is not what 256 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: a Mountain Union spreadsheet looks like. Is not what a 257 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Texas track and field spreadsheet looks like. So it's fascinating 258 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: to see if this gets at least there's an incremental 259 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: change that happens in the next month or so before 260 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: the season starts. 261 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: All right, So to pivot off of that, Washington State 262 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: head football coach Nick Rolovich tells wide receiver Cassidy Woods 263 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: that joining the Unity group, the one we just discussed, 264 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: would create now quote an issue. Now, Cassidy Woods called 265 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: to inform Nick Rolovich that he was going to opt 266 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: out of the season. He's got sickle cell trade. He 267 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: would be at an enhanced risk obviously for the coronavirus. 268 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: No big deal on that front, right, Rolovich told Woods, 269 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: No big deal, no problem there. What he would have 270 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: a problem with is if he opted to be part 271 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: of the Unity movement, the group that we just discussed, 272 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: the ones that are threatening to opt out this season. 273 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: If the PAC twelve does not meet a series of demands. Quote, 274 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: that's going to be an issue if you align with them. 275 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: As far as future stuff, Rolovich said, according to the 276 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News, quote the COVID stuff is one thing, 277 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: but joining this group, it's going to be different. If 278 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: you say I'm opting out because of COVID and health 279 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: and safety. I'm good, but this group is going to 280 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: change how things go in the future for everybody, at 281 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: least at our school. 282 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: End quote. 283 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: That's a really bad look there. Perhaps there is more 284 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: context that will come out that will make it look better, 285 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: but call on its face, I'm trying to give folks 286 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard on its face. 287 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: That is certainly not a good look for the new 288 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: head football coach at Washington State. 289 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Mister Rolovic. Yeah, I'm trying to look at this from 290 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: all perspectives. But the call was recorded. There is a 291 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: transcript to the call. It's not a terrific look for 292 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Nick Rolovich, especially since he hasn't coached a single game 293 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: or a full spring practice session or full fall camp. 294 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: He is brand new, and the most important thing if 295 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: you if you asked any coach about is what is 296 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: the most important thing when you become a new coach. 297 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: It's generally you got to win over the locker room 298 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: and get buy in. You got to get everybody believing 299 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: in you, believing in your vision, believing in you as 300 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: a human and how you are going to day to day. 301 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Take this program from A to B and ah, it's rough. 302 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: It is absolutely rough to start your tenure. Oh and 303 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: not in Nikrolovitch's defense, but I can see that Nikrolovich 304 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: is saying, Okay, I need buying. If somebody's opting out, 305 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't want them at practices. I don't want them 306 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: in the locker room. If they're opting out for health reasons, 307 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: it's for the best that they're not there, perhaps distracting 308 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: or just sort of on the sidelines. 309 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: By the way, Nicole our back our friend, shortly after 310 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: some of this news broke on Twitter that no, no, 311 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: this is because of him opting out. He has to leave, 312 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: he can't practice. That's part of the rules. And more 313 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: came out after that, the transcript, the recording of the call, etc. 314 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: And that sort of puts us where we're at right now. 315 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: It seems like when we hear about coaches sort of 316 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: making fools of themselves or the optics are that a 317 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: coach has made a fool of himself, it seems like 318 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: he is not there for his players and he's there 319 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: for him and he's there to be a football coach. 320 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: And even if that is more true than not, it 321 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: seems like the best coaches in this situation, and I've 322 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: heard about conversations that have happened on multiple campuses. It 323 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: seems like the best coaches say to their players, Hey, 324 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: I really I'm interested by the stuff you put out. 325 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know I have your 326 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: back and anything that I can do to clarify anything 327 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: to be there for you, Send me a text, give 328 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: me a call. Here's my number. Nick Rolovitch saying we 329 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: may need you to clear out your locker. It probably 330 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: could have been handled. It definitely could have been handled better. 331 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: And it's and I think it was Beaumonti Jones who 332 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: said this that Washington State's already a very difficult place 333 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: to recruit too. It is not a traditional college and 334 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: college football program that recruits top level talent. It is 335 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: not near any big high school talent bases. And so 336 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: for Nick Rolovich, without having coached a game, to give 337 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: himself this to self inflict this sort of reputation about 338 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: not having his players backs and not being able to 339 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: convey what he's trying to convey in a mature, leadery way, 340 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what his long term 341 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: future looks like. Because it's got to convince parents on 342 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the road that you're there for your sucks, bad luck. 343 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: And how many people knew buck? How many people knew 344 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: his name before yesterday? I know how many? I know 345 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: how many West Virginia fans, how many Miami fans, how 346 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: many Texas Tech fans? How many Wisconsin fans knew Nick 347 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: rolovich name before yesterday? And now they know his name? Okay? 348 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: Staying with the PAC twelve been a busy news cycle 349 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: out West. They approved on Friday a ten game conference 350 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: only slate for football. We don't have to spend a 351 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: whole lot of time on this one. We do have 352 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of questions that we want to get to. 353 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: But ten game schedule, conference only beginning on September the 354 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: twenty sixth, with quote a lot of built in flexibility. 355 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: Each team's going to play five home, five road games. 356 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: The PAC twelve championship will be played at one of 357 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: the home sites. It's not going to be played in 358 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Vegas the higher ranked Yeah, the higher ranked home team 359 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: either on December eighteenth or nineteenth, they worked out some 360 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: sort of deal where they're going to start the Vegas 361 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: game next year, and then games that can't be played 362 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: on their scheduled dates are going to be made up 363 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: in one of the bye weeks or in Week twelve, 364 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: which is the December the twelfth. So you know, whether 365 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: they could pull it off or not is the operative question. 366 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: And as we speak, as I think you said at 367 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: the top, the Big twelve, trying to work towards their 368 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: own model, trying to get some agreement there. There's also 369 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: one yeah, yeah, there's also a big NCAA Board of 370 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: Governors meeting that's going to drop on Tuesday. So perhaps 371 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff will be irrelevant by the 372 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: time folks listen on Wednesday morning. But that is a 373 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: state of play right now. The only other thing that 374 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: I'll add here this is just a follow up to 375 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: a story that we discussed on the last show about 376 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley from Virginia Tech the prize defensive back opting 377 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: out going to focus on the draft. Remember lost a 378 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: parent two years ago, didn't want to run that risk 379 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: with another. He also adds that because of Virginia Tech's 380 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: rudimentary and or non existent health and safety protocols that 381 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: contributed to his decision as well. Quote this year at 382 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech at our workouts. I started having deep concerns 383 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: about staying healthy. Guys are going home, going to Myrtle Beach, 384 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: coming back up to campus. We weren't getting tested. We're 385 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: all together, working out close to each other. One day 386 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: I looked around. We were like one hundred deep in 387 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: our indoor facility, no masks. My concern grew more and more. Yeah, 388 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: and I don't fault players. I mean, I don't faull 389 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley. I don't even fault players for being in 390 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: a large group without mass. I mean, yes, they're at fault, 391 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: But it's the responsibility of the grown ups in the 392 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: room to be very clear about protocol, to be very clear, 393 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: like we're not wearing masks, we're not working out. If 394 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: we're not working out, we're not playing. It's very strange 395 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: to me. I think I just came into this with 396 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: the assumption that, like, oh, all of these major college 397 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: football programs have the means to convey protocol that anytime 398 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: you're inside, you wearing a mask, anytime you're practicing, this 399 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: is what we're doing anytime. This is how we clean 400 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: up after practice, is how we're dealing with footballs and 401 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: goalposts or whatever. I guess we're not really touching goalposts 402 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: all that much. But for a place like Virginia Tech, 403 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: if this is true, which I have no reason to believe, 404 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: it isn't kind of shocking. No, I can understand a 405 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: tiny school really having trouble keeping up with whether it's 406 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: a money thing, whether it's a supply thing, a testing thing, whatever. 407 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech makes a lot of money, They're an ACC school, 408 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: They've played in recent huge Bowl games. And if they're 409 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: not able to get their messaging to their players, I 410 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: imagine they're not the only school. I hope they are, 411 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: because that's extremely worrisome if they are, but or if 412 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: they're not. But man, this is this is rough. This 413 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: is this is a I totally get where Caleb Farley's 414 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: coming from. 415 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: We'll see if there are other players, we'll see which 416 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: direction this al goes. But adding a little bit more 417 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: insight to his decision, that's all we have for now. 418 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: There could be more news by the time this breaks. 419 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: That is sort of the way it goes in the 420 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: world of podcasting. 421 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: We did get a bunch of questions. Would you like 422 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: to get to those? Yeah, let's get to those. Congratulations, Skippy, 423 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: you've got mail. You've got mail on the solid verubal 424 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: generally speaking to about once a month. M hmm. We 425 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: like to pay homage. 426 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: Let's pay homage to the people that write in soliverbal 427 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: at gmail dot com, tell us on Instagram, on Twitter, 428 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: on Facebook, Uh juno. 429 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't know however, you get the stuff to us, 430 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: We do our best to read it good. We received 431 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: a fantastic question here from Eric. He writes in the 432 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: email and says, guys, I was wondering if you can 433 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: help settle a bet something we've done in the past. 434 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: End Oh, I've seen any reason we can't do it. Here. 435 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, a friend and I made a little 436 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: wager basically, will Notre Dame join a football conference before 437 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six? We were no more specific. That's more 438 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: or less the exact wording. We obviously did not anticipate 439 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: this situation. So should Notre Dame quote unquote joining the 440 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: ACC for this season count? That is? Americ Dan, how 441 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: do you feel? I don'ts bet? Would you count it? 442 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't know the language that they used. If it's 443 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: simply will Notre Dame football join a conference before twenty 444 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: twenty six? Notre Dame has joined the ACC before twenty 445 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: twenty six. If the wording of the bet is not, 446 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: will Notre Dame become a full time memory of a conference? 447 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: Might be different? That's semantics, right, But the fact is 448 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is playing an ACC schedule, is eligible for 449 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: the ACC Championship game? And how many non ACC opponents 450 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: is Notre Dame going to play this year? Uh? Maybe one? 451 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: If things think well, I think I think probably zero 452 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: maybe one, which is no different than any other ACC team. 453 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: So I think Notre Dame's an ACC team. I think 454 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is an ACC team if there is say 455 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: full time membership. 456 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, if there is no legally binding contract containing specific language. 457 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: If you're being very vague and broad, right, Eric, I 458 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: think you got to pay out the bet. I don't 459 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: know which side of this bet you took, mind you, 460 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: but I think it counts. I think it has to count, right. 461 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Do you think we got a question on Instagram? 462 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: Do you think it's you know, more likely that Notre 463 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Dame and other independent school's army by you are our 464 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: big notable ones? You know? Is aremy going to join 465 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: the American if they ask them to is b why 466 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: you're going to join the Big twelve or are they going 467 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: to go back to the Mountain West if they're asked to. 468 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: Do you think this unique earth situation makes it such 469 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: that that could happen? I don't know what the output is. 470 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 471 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 2: I could certainly make a case for it. Here's what 472 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: I do think. I do think that the sport is 473 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: fundamentally going to be changed moving forward. Yeah, in many 474 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: ways that we probably can't predict. But Notre Dame getting 475 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: this exposure hopping into the acc if only out of 476 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: necessity for one football season, one shortened football season. There 477 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: will be some output from that experience that they will 478 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: find valuable. The whole thing still may not outweigh. 479 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: You're such an it guy. There's going to be output, Well, 480 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: there will be. There will be something that comes to Wait, 481 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: I was thinking outcomes, but yeah, an outcome, sure, outputs 482 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: and outcomes. Yeah, there will be some thing that comes 483 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: from this that I wholeheartedly expect they will be very 484 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: happy about. Will it be enough to sway them from 485 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: independence a culture that has permeated Notre Dame for decades? 486 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, probably not in the short term. I think 487 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: what I do think though, I hate when I get 488 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: permeated by culture. 489 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: Are you listen, If you're not making Front of the 490 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: Globe tomatoes, you're making fun of the permeation. 491 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: It's a culture that has permeated Notre Dame for decades. Okay, sorry, scoundrel. 492 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well back back to the serious topic of this man, 493 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: if I could for a second. 494 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: I talked about how we're recording this on a Monday. 495 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: There's a board of governors meeting on Tuesday in the NCAA. 496 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how it relates to Notre Dame or 497 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: BYU or army. 498 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: But if the Board of Governors decides that they're going 499 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: to cancel the fall Championships, but the Power five somehow 500 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: finds some way to weasel a season out of the 501 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty calendar year, that to me would be the 502 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: first like major major schism between the Power Five the 503 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: nc DOUBLEA, and it could signify maybe cracks in the foundation, 504 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 2: maybe point a little bit more towards that break with 505 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: one from the other that we talked about with Richard Johnson, 506 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Like could the Power five decide that it's sort of 507 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: quasi going to break away from the NCAA and run 508 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: football on its own. 509 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it already sort of does. The NCAA is just 510 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: there for enforcement and eligibility stuff. But in terms of 511 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: a postseason, in terms of TV deals and exposure, and 512 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: the conferences aligning to sort of govern everything else, they 513 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: already kind of had. And I saw people talking about this. 514 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: The NCUBLEA answers to its member schools, so anything new 515 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: that Power five schools would form would be an entity 516 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: that answers to Power five schools, which is not all 517 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: that different from the nc DOUBLEA just has a shiny 518 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: new polish. The way that the college Football Playoff is 519 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: run by Hutai BCS people, it is indeed Bill is 520 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: indeed Bill right. So yes, I could see in regard 521 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: to this Instagram question, I could see these schools becoming 522 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: parts of conferences, but only because I think a lot's 523 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: going to change with the sport in the next year 524 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: or two, because of whatever it is, PAC twelve players, 525 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is, players becoming more vocal and revenues becoming 526 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: more obviously in need of a little bit more redistribution. 527 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: I think things are going to change now. Notre Dame 528 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: has the cachet to go about things independently because they 529 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: are that quote unquote national brand. I'm not doubting it. 530 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I just like quoting national brand, and then they can 531 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: negotiate a TV dealer on their own. I don't think 532 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: there's a national TV deal available for BYU and Army 533 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: in the same way on network TV that there is 534 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. But I think it's interesting. I think 535 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: it's interesting because we're going to see at some point, 536 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: whenever it is, TV contracts come up in various conferences. 537 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: I think gradual reorganization around the reality that college football 538 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: has in a lot of ways outgrown college. Yeah, and 539 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: look no further than our current situation to really highlight 540 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: the weakness in the system, right yeah, yeah. 541 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: Jason writes in if the college football season does not 542 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: happen at all this year, which teams benefit the most, 543 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: which suffer the most? Consider players in coming outgoing lost momentum, 544 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: coaches aging, coaches getting another year when maybe they don't 545 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: deserve it, et cetera, et cetera. Show your work. 546 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I like the end of that. This is this is 547 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 1: a Clayhilton question, right, yes, this is the cla This 548 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: is how Clay Hilton stays at USC until twenty twenty five. 549 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: What is your answer? Obviously, Clay Helton is a short 550 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: term winner. He doesn't have to play Alabama. He's given 551 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: more time to sort of get the USC program in order. 552 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: From a coaching in personnel and general infrastructure standpoint, and 553 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: coaches like Clay Hilton, who you know, have been hanging 554 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: on whoever that coach is, whoever. You know, a coach 555 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: maybe coming off of an uncharacteristic bad twenty nineteen that's 556 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: going to go farther and farther into the rear view mirror, 557 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, like a Dino Babers at Syracuse, somebody who 558 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: followed up a pretty exciting year with a disappointing one, 559 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, not all that challenging conference that. You know, 560 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald probably a big winner, you know that even 561 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: though Northwestern isn't a huge, huge national name, Northwestern had 562 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: a pretty terrible year. David Shaw pretty big winner. We're not, 563 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, thinking about Stanford's disappointing twenty nineteen as much 564 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: so from an optics standpoint, teams like that from a 565 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: coach's aging further, I don't know if there's an obvious 566 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: answer there. I mean, there's no reason to think Nick 567 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: Saban's retiring because of age. At this point, there's you know, 568 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: now Alabama's still getting it done momentum wise. Maybe, I 569 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: think schools that have a lot of obvious first round, 570 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: second round picks who are either not going to play 571 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: because the season isn't happening, or opt out because they 572 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: don't want to take that chance. High State, Clemson schools 573 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: like that that I think have a lot like, you know. 574 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: If there is no season and you know, I don't 575 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: know what that means for players like ian Book or 576 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: in ian Book's type of situation. 577 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: It puts schools like. 578 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: Notre Dame in a bind where you've got maybe that 579 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 2: returning quarterback and who knows what the eligibility thing is, 580 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 2: Maybe he wants to take a run at the NFL 581 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: for so, I mean, who knows you're in Book? 582 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it strikes me as but you're really 583 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: coming at me today, You're just is my presence permeating 584 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: your takes? The snarkiness is permeating the show. Sorry. 585 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: I feel for the group of five schools. I think 586 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: they're the big losers, certainly in the Power five. It's 587 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: uh going to put you in a bit of a 588 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: state of financial ruin. That's the oppositor to me. 589 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Schools who have recruited really really well recent and can 590 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: absorb the loss of newly eligible to the NFL for 591 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft players, Your traditional powers, you know, may 592 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: perhaps coaches in year two who have put together their 593 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: first real recruiting cycle and so they have their players 594 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: in the system and have more time to get to 595 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: know their players and you know, strengths and weaknesses if 596 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: there's able to be practiced in some way. I also 597 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: think big losers are new coaches, because new coaches are 598 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: desperate to see what they have with their players and 599 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: to see what the new school is like, and just 600 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: to to get out on the field and make sense 601 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: of everything in either a year zero or a year 602 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: one situation. Those are, you know, Mike Norvell at Florida State. 603 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: I was going to say, yeah, yeah, let yeah, all 604 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: these guys, those are those are big losers who are 605 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: and it's champing at the bed I learned, But you 606 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: can also say chomping at the bed to just know 607 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: what they have, know what it's like to be a 608 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: head coach for these guys. Those are those are some 609 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: pretty big losers there This is a fun question. 610 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: It's from Dan, and then beneath Dan is one from Dave. 611 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: So we've got Dan and Dave coming back to back here. 612 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: Shout out rebox, shout out? 613 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: Is it? 614 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Dan klobash? All right, I don't know, Dan, it is? 615 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: It is. I'm telling you it is. 616 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: If there is spring football, how will we designate the 617 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one spring and fall seasons? Twenty one A 618 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: and twenty one B, twenty twenty one and twenty twenty 619 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: one Dash two Judgment season twenty one A New Hope 620 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: in twenty one, the season Strikes Back twenty twenty one, 621 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: Excellent Adventure in twenty twenty one Bogus Journey. 622 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: This is a fantic question. Yeah, it's I mean, it's 623 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: just going to be Spring twenty one, Fall twenty one. 624 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a semester type thing I would imagine, 625 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: So I would say twenty twenty one spring semester, Fall semester. 626 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: But let's get creative with this, Dan, you know, like 627 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: you've done the acc fatlantic m hmm. We've come up 628 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 2: with great names like Duke of Hazzard, Alan Wizard. Right, 629 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 2: there's a creative outfit here. 630 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: Spring forward fall back. I was thinking something like that, 631 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: got to incorporate the spring in the fall. Yeah, I 632 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: think daylight savings is a sham. We've all watched VEEP. 633 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: We know. Sure. Okay, so you're talking spring and fall 634 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: seasons and how we go about I mean spring break. 635 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: What is a good idiom with fall? By the way, 636 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: if we have a season, you're in this fall break too. Yeah, 637 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: there is a fall break. But if we have a 638 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: season in the spring and it ends after six weeks, 639 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: that's a spring break. B R A k E. Because 640 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: pcast tie right, I'll give it some more thought. You 641 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: can let us know how. It's weird. It's hard to 642 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: imagine they'd have a spring, a full spring, and a 643 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: full fall season. It's hard to imagine they would say, yeah, 644 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna need you to play to some teams. I 645 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: don't twenty eight games, twenty nine games in twenty that's 646 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: a lot to ask. That's a lot to ask guys 647 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: to just take a summer off and not have a 648 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: full offseason. And what that does to recruiting and official 649 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: visits and signing classes. I don't know. I think it's 650 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: if anything is going to happen. I think it'll be 651 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: an attempted fall season. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, 652 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: and then they're going to try again in August of 653 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: next year if they really feel good about like a 654 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: Banger's only five game schedule in April May, I can 655 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: understand having five and then a full season in the fall. 656 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: Beyond that it's too far to ass Then you're going 657 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: to see a lot more PAC twelve Players United, ACC 658 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: Players United, Mountain West Players United. All that's going to 659 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: start up to really come into play. I mean, we 660 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 1: saw what happened when what the NFL tried to add 661 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: one more game and what the players union push back on. 662 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: So and I understand why they didn't want her two 663 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: more games. Whatever, I think it's gonna get pretty dicey, 664 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: all right, So we don't I'll think on names till 665 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: got to think on this. We'll put this out there, 666 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe on social media. That'd be a good one. Dave, 667 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: staying with the subject of playing games in the spring, 668 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: could we get a non traditional champion if they even 669 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: have a playoff or BCS style champion. This is an 670 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: interesting question to me. 671 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: Dan, you know it's not likely it's the same teams 672 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: playing most of the same teams, right, they're just confining 673 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: it a little bit more to conference. But I'll harken 674 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: back to something I said on the last show. Without 675 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: the non conference games, typically you would use those just 676 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: to get a check on where teams are relative to 677 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 2: one another. It's much tougher to compare conferences if you 678 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: don't have the non conference games. So without that, in 679 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 2: lieu of that, again, it is Barry Alvarez or people 680 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 2: like Barry Alvarez in a room arguing about it, and 681 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: that to me seems like a great recipe for some 682 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 2: weird stuff to happen. Now, it is going to be 683 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: tough to leave the big guns out, the Clemsons and 684 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: the Ohio States and certainly the Oklahomas, right. 685 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: But it stands to reason. 686 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: I think if it were going to happen at all, 687 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: and if we were going to have a weird like 688 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 2: odd ball team that works their way into the playoff, 689 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: this would sort of be the year that it would 690 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: happen because everything that we'll have to go on will 691 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: be much more of a limited sample size. 692 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: What if hear me out, what if we in the 693 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: way that there are different cups right in European Soccer. 694 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: There are different tournaments and even though you didn't win 695 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: the Champions League, you won euro or FA or what right, 696 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: So what if any way that we've ever determined a 697 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: national champion is brought back, And especially if there's no 698 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: college football playoff and the season just ends after conference 699 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: championship games and we have three ten and zero teams 700 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: and two nine and one teams, and then in the 701 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: G five level we've got a couple undefeated teams and 702 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: it's like wow, I mean, this is the American was 703 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: really tough this year. This you know, Houston has to 704 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: be given consideration. ECU has to be considered given consideration. 705 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: Whatever I think we have a BCS champion, I think 706 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: we have we don't have a college Yeah, let's call 707 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: it a college football national College fotball playoff national champion. 708 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: That's just determined by the playoff committee. There's no actual playoff. 709 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: It's just a playoff committee champion. There is a college 710 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: coalition champ. So whoever would have won the Orange Bowl 711 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: or something that year. There is every single way that 712 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's an AP champion, there's a coaches champion, 713 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: every single way. Everything has to be fully transparent, and 714 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: we just have like seven national champions. Seven national champions. Wow, yeah, 715 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: all right, why not? I mean, it's it's such a weird, 716 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: like to just say, Okay, Alabama or Georgia or Ohio 717 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: State went undefeated and they had the best margin of 718 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 1: victory and it was clear that, you know, they were 719 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: a class above in a way that no other team 720 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: was a class above. They're the national champion as boring, Ty, 721 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like that at all. 722 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: So I I'd like it to be uh, sort of 723 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: more up in the air. I think that's the way 724 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: to go, because it's such an up in the air season, 725 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: you might as well make the national champion. 726 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 2: Weird Patrick, Who are your top five running backs going 727 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 2: into the twenty twenty season? 728 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: Hm? Question? I did some resun for this, Ty, so 729 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: did I. 730 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: Travis Etn is my alpha. A close second is Chewba Hubbard. 731 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: After that, I have a little bit more trouble. After that, 732 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: I start looking at guys like Kennedy Brooks. 733 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: I start looking at your boys. CJ. Verdell, my boy, 734 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: Jerny Brown's the name I wrote down, Yeah, Kylon Hill, 735 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: I have Hawkins from He's pretty good. I have Najie Harris, 736 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: I have Kante Ingram performed well against good teams, Jerry 737 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: and eally Ole miss now So certainly wasn't a workhorse 738 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: last year. But the best of Jerry and Eely was 739 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: really strong. It's a good I mean, I don't like 740 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: putting freshmen on this level yet. We'll see what happens. 741 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: At Georgia was Amir White, who's finally hopefully healthy. Man. 742 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: This will be I feel like I'm generally more excited 743 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: about a returning CJ. Verdell was good and had some 744 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: really nice long runs, but also some more inconsistent play 745 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: earlier on in the season. Mostly I think Stanford and 746 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: Auburn were not great. But yeah, I don't feel like 747 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: I'm as excited about the running back class going into 748 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: the season as I normally am. I don't know, Maybe 749 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm forgetting a lot of guys. We'll see 750 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: Trace sarmon Ohio State, Yep, yep, Arbone. 751 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: I am not that excited about the quarterback class. To 752 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I'm okay with the quarterback class. 753 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 2: We had Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence. 754 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: There. It all starts with Chase Garber's for you. 755 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: Sure, then after Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence, who's like 756 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: your third best quarterback in college football? 757 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 1: Oh? McHale, obviously, what are you talking about. 758 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: That's a question, who's your third best quarterback? Mckail Cunningham, 759 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: that's your answer? It might be I like mckail cunningham. 760 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: Excuse me, nothing but really good? 761 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: No. I think it's a fascinating here. So okay, here's 762 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: why it's fascinating. So we've seen a lot of very 763 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: very good sam Ellinger and seen some unfortunate sam Ellinger. 764 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: But we know him, We're familiar with him. We know 765 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: what the Sam Ellinger experience is about, and I'm happy 766 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: to have another year with it. Maybe not all Texas 767 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: fans are with some of his not his fun game. 768 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: I think he's underrated. Spencer Ratler is exciting to me 769 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: because he should. We've seen Oklahoma track record. He should 770 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: have a good year. 771 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, mister permeation, Wait a set. Okay, the 772 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: question was about top five running backsh and. 773 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: I shifted it to like top whatever quarter I'm Spencer 774 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: Rattler in that I'm not saying I'm saying I'm more 775 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: excited about the quarterbacks in the twenty twenty season. I'm 776 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: not saying these are my top five, but I'm saying, 777 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: as a general rule, the running backs that we know 778 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: about and potentially we're going to see step into a 779 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: bigger role. It's there are some years where quarterbacks are 780 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: not that interesting. I think with what's happening at big school. 781 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: So you have Mac Jones and Bryce Young at Alabama, 782 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: so a more veteran, steady hand and then the promising freshman. 783 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: We've seen that situation with Alabama before. Recently, Clemson's all set, 784 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State's all set. But Oregon Joe Morehead, Tyler Shuck 785 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: I think is interesting. Washington is wide open. Chase Garber's 786 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody on the West Coast that talks about 787 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: back twelve football will say, well, he's never lost a 788 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: game that he played all of in twenty nineteen. The city, 789 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, Keaton Slovas I think is probably worthy of 790 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: top five quarterbacks in the country consideration. I think so, Yeah, 791 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Yeah, I think across the 792 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: sport there's I think there's more intrigue than there is 793 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: proven and reliable. But it's interesting to me and in 794 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: normally yours in normal years, when you've got that kind 795 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: of uncertainty at the quarterback position, you get some wild results. Yeah, 796 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: truely absolutely. 797 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, and so I I sort of 798 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: share your curiosity around the quarterback position. But in terms 799 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: of like guys that we could really hang our hat 800 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: on outside of Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence, maybe Sam 801 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: Howell and Keaton Slovas Sam Ellinger, like outside of a 802 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 2: very small select group, there really is a lot of 803 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: uncertainty there. 804 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: Hat hanging is overrated. Wild cards, Tie, wild that's underrated. 805 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: All right, give me some non football. We got time 806 00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: for like three or four? Uh wow, Okay, So this 807 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be selfish about this one, both because I 808 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: think there's people are either in their homes and they're 809 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 1: just really making the most of their time at home 810 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: during this time, or perhaps there's some movement happening, you know, 811 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: you're moving closer to family during this time or whatever. 812 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: So Tie, specifically, this is a question from Tyler, and 813 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: it's probably for you. Tips for moving to a new 814 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 1: house beyond hydrating and stretching, which are both very important, 815 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: I would say maybe maybe take Adville ahead of time 816 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: before you move pieces of heavy furniture. Ty, I'm about 817 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: to move into a rental house. Yeah, you recently purchased 818 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: a house and moved in from not that far away. 819 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: If you had to give everybody listening tips about what 820 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: to do when moving into a new house, both the 821 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: physical move and what you should do once you're already settled, 822 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: what would they be As for the physical move? 823 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: If you can afford to get movers. Oh yeah, if 824 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 2: you can afford to get movers, that's a pro. 825 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: Tip right there. Okay, I appreciate that we have. You 826 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: do have movers. We do excellent. 827 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 2: So that's a huge relief right there. The second thing 828 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 2: that I would say moving into a new house is 829 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 2: get intimately familiar with some of the di y YouTube tutorials. 830 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: Oh good, call. 831 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: I have learned more about amateur plumbing odds and ends 832 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 2: around the house. Have really tried to stay away from 833 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: the electrical, but most other stuff. YouTube has been a godsend. 834 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: What did you have to buy the most of because 835 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: you moved in from like a townhouse situation to a 836 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: full on house an foa I did? Yeah, what were 837 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: the big purchases early on? Well, the big purchases. 838 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 2: Is that we we needed we we didn't we didn't 839 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: have enough furniture because we moved into a bigger place 840 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, yeah, we we had some empty 841 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: rooms here, so trying to figure out what goes where 842 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: and how some of our old stuff would fit in 843 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: with the new place. That that led to a lot 844 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 2: of furniture purchases. 845 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: Your big arm R guy me huge arm or guy. 846 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: You know that about everybody knows that. About timebody knows that, pa, 847 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: and it's on my Twitter bio. 848 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I The furniture thing kind of caught me 849 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: off guard, and so yeah, I would say if you 850 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 2: do the movers, do the movers. Otherwise, get get familiar 851 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 2: with the YouTube DIY section and uh, you know, be 852 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 2: prepared to try out some new stuff. Don't do anything 853 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: crazy like try to fix your own garage door. I 854 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: tried that and almost killed my stone. 855 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: Don't do that. That sounds dumb. 856 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: Don't don't try that. There's a lot of tension there. 857 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 2: Please don't try that. But as for things like amateur. 858 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: Plumbing and you know, just play it by your and 859 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: don't overextend yourself if it looks too difficult. Do you 860 00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: have like a checklist of when, especially because I'm living 861 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: in cold weather, which like when valves need to be 862 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: looked at, making sure water hasn't gone into a basement, 863 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 1: making sure pipes don't freeze. Do you have a checklist? 864 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, it's getting a little cold. I have 865 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,479 Speaker 1: to do like a a once over of the old house, 866 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: ARU and stuff like that. Well, we have the heating 867 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: and cooling guy who comes twice a year, okay, and 868 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: that's on a schedule as long as you pay your bill, right, Okay, 869 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: No big deal there. Most of the other stuff is 870 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: sort of as you need it, okay, and sometimes it's 871 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: not always apparent when you need it. That's something that 872 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 1: I think you'll learn as to you as you get 873 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: a house. But I got to get a grill that 874 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: ideally has a gas line hook up. I don't know 875 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: if you have a recommendation. And I'm speaking to both 876 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: of you and anybody listening. I don't need a huge grill. 877 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: It's just me and solid wife Jody with an eye. Sorry, 878 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: Kate's solid wife. It's just me Jody with an eye 879 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: and the solid a toddler. But don't need a huge one. 880 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: Don't need a smoker, but it'd be nice to have 881 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: a quality one that that gets hot, can can make 882 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,959 Speaker 1: all sorts of meats and vegetables on it. That'd be great. 883 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: Got some patio furniture coming, Yeah, we could talk. We 884 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: can talk about this, all right. I was excited. I 885 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,959 Speaker 1: need a Pellett girl, tie, What do I need? Pellet grill? 886 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: Gotta get gotta get a gas grill. Man. Well, I 887 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: guess if I'm getting natural gas line girl, I don't 888 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: need a pellet girl. But yeah, all right, I figure 889 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: that out. So yeah, I'm gonna pre Advil. I think 890 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 1: that's big Advil. Not a sponsor, but heavy usage. Next question, 891 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 1: James says, when you close your eyes and say the 892 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: phrase college football Saturday, Yeah, college football Saturday, what do 893 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: you visualize? Uh? Right now? Is how you're interpreting this. 894 00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: I guess so more missed moments bea of child care, 895 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: which is fine, love the solid toddler, but that's different. 896 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: And I suppose more room because I'll be in a 897 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: house college football Saturday. When I close my eyes, I 898 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: feel that Crisp bear. Did you mount your TVs? By 899 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: the way, No, I didn't have you ever mounted a TV? 900 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: I have? 901 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could help you with that. Did you do it? So? 902 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the actual process. I have a 903 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: sixty five inch TV. I don't know, it's probably ways 904 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 1: forty pounds or so. Did you do it solo? Did 905 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: you do it with the help of a friend? Did 906 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: you hire somebody to do it for you? No? I 907 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: did it with the help of a friend. Okay, that's 908 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: what that's my gut. Yeah. Yeah, but you could do 909 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: it with Jody with it eye, you just know a 910 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: couple pro tips for how to get that thing mounted. Okay, 911 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: the brackets are already there, so that that part's that 912 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: You're fine? Oh okay, then you're fine. Done? All right, Dan, 913 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: Where do we want to go next? Give me a question, Well, 914 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: you didn't technically to the truffle oil or Cajun seasoning 915 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 1: and tots or fries question, I'll go tots or fries. 916 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: So which one? If you'd rather eat truffle oil, Cajun 917 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: seasoning solo or tots and fries. Would you prefer a 918 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 1: truffle oil on a tot or fry cajun? 919 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know what a truffle oil is, So 920 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,479 Speaker 2: you know what truffle oil is I have no idea 921 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 2: Cajun seasoning. 922 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: Truffles are similar to mushrooms. I know that, but I've 923 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: never had truffle oil. I think you have. So you're 924 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: saying Cajun season what fries are tots? I'll do tots same. 925 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Okay, let's go to another question. 926 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: Got at we got actually have a bunch of good ones. 927 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: You want to go to Brandon Cavanaugh? Sure, I'm gonna 928 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to revise his question because I don't know 929 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: enough college football players personally and about their personalities as much. 930 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 1: Let's say a documentary is being put together about how 931 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: college football players are training, slash live their lives during 932 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Name five current players you'd like to see 933 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: profiled in a documentary. I'm going to revise this tie. 934 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: If you could pick any one position to have a 935 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: different player playing that position at five different schools profiled. 936 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: What position on the football you know you want five quarterbacks? 937 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: Do you want a documentary following around quarterbacks? I feel 938 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: like that's been done so many times. I say definitely not. Yeah, 939 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going to self aware largely, and they're trying 940 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: to just have good pr about them. 941 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 2: Give me wide receivers. Wide receivers, you get a pretty 942 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 2: good spectrum. You'll get the short like jitterbug types like 943 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 2: ron Dale. 944 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: Moore who can do everything. You'll get the big dogs. Yeah, 945 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: but is he a good documentary fodder? Is he funny dishes? 946 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: Is he funny friends? I don't know that about any 947 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: of these guys, do you right? You know, I think 948 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: these guys wide receivers. I think there's a natural confidence 949 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: to a lot of wide receivers. Sure, and you have 950 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: to have a self assured nature you're going across the middle, 951 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's right. I think my answer 952 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: is probably going to be either offensive tackle or defensive tackle, 953 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: because those dudes they're both valued because they play incredibly 954 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: important positions. So there's going to be a certain degree 955 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: of confidence and self assuredness to them as well. But 956 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: also they're navigating a world that they're not necessarily built 957 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: to because they're huge. You know, the college apartments aren't 958 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: necessarily built for huge dudes, and so I think a 959 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of them have to develop a sense of humor 960 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: about themselves. So I'm going to go with with the 961 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: large men here. A lot of eating I think I 962 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: think that's the way to go. Ty, I'll go wide out. 963 00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 2: Give me ron Dale Moore, Tyland Wallace for show Bateman, 964 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm on rass Saint Brown. 965 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 1: And Chris Olave. I have no idea if that would 966 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 1: be interesting, but thank you. I'm just going large dudes, 967 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: Large dudes. Two more questions here from the non I 968 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: mean I liked watching Marvin Wilson. I think Marvin Wilson 969 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: be my list. You see Martin Wilson be fun? Yeah, 970 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: he'd be fun. Any other question? Oh, this one. I 971 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: thought it's it's a football question, but I thought it 972 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: was fascinating. Ty, we can end with a football question. 973 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 1: Surprise on topic question from the Rexologist. Then, if you 974 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: saw via Twitter, I believe on sports Wars shout out 975 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: sports Wars available via Wondering, you spoke about how one 976 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma's biggest moments in the Texas Oklahoma rivalry was 977 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 1: when they started getting recruits from Texas for other cross 978 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 1: state rivalries. What does a more quote program foundation event 979 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: look like? And this person says the bias would be Minnesota, 980 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: Wisconsin with any is good? So what what do you 981 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: just in general? What to you has swung shifted program 982 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: success level. What are those big moments that you know, 983 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma recruiting Texas players and building in roads in Texas 984 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: is going to be huge. What to you and I 985 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: don't you don't need to be specific, but what sorts 986 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: of events permeate successfully growing programs. 987 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: Non conference matchups something that we will likely be without 988 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: this year, that exposure. 989 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: But do you think, like one, yeah, I guess in 990 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: the case of Boise State, that's true that they raise 991 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: their profile to such a crazy degree with you know, 992 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: Georgia and Virginia Tech and Oregon. 993 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: I think non conference matchups can play a part. I 994 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 2: certainly think the postseason can play a part as well, 995 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,879 Speaker 2: even though those games maybe don't mean as much if 996 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,919 Speaker 2: you're not in the playoff for one of the big 997 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 2: Bowl games. But you know, you're really ultimately talking about exposure. 998 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 2: What can get you exposure, what can put you on 999 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: the map, And if you take down a giant, I think, 1000 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 2: I think that's a seminal moment, that's an important thing. 1001 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 2: So I would throw that in there as well. I 1002 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 2: would also add, you know, I know it's probably not 1003 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 2: totally applicable for a school like an LSU or an 1004 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 2: Oregon because they are already among the most prominent college 1005 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 2: football programs. But if you can get like a sweet 1006 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 2: news hit about facilities or uniforms, just something that's novel 1007 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 2: and new and potentially very interesting to incoming recruits, I 1008 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,720 Speaker 2: think that's interesting. 1009 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: That's a moment. 1010 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pr hit as opposed to like something 1011 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: that's earth shattering. But it's a tiny little moments like 1012 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,720 Speaker 2: that that can eventually add up and make your program 1013 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 2: I think more appealing to some of. 1014 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 1: Those those top level recruits. Yeah, I think all those 1015 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: are right. I think systems become really important in terms 1016 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: of defining programs and raising profiles. We saw what happened 1017 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: with you know, Florida under Steve Spurrier, or you know 1018 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: the military academies running the option, and you know, it 1019 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: establishes a reputation, it establishes an identity. You know, if 1020 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to use an Oregon example, it's having a 1021 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: miracle season the way that Oregon did in nineteen ninety 1022 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: four where they go to the Rose Bowl. They eventually 1023 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: get spanked by Penn State, but that raised Oregon's profile 1024 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: and it got the attention of Phil Knight, built them 1025 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: an indoor practice facility after Mike Blotti was like, okay, 1026 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: what can we do? And then Nike became more involved 1027 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 1: with Oregon, and obviously the branding of the uniforms and 1028 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: the flashy style and the coaching hires that becomes big. 1029 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: I think continuity with coaches. You know, we still associate 1030 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: Kansas State with Bill Snyder, right because he's recruiting junior 1031 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: college players. They're beating teams with more resources and it's 1032 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: just scrappy Little Manhattan, Kansas, Kansas State, you know, beating Giants, 1033 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: beating Oklahoma, beating Texas, and it's the continuity of a 1034 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: Bill Snyder program. We saw it with Bobby Bowden at 1035 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: Florida State and Joe Paterno at Penn State, where it's 1036 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, the identity is tied to these coaches, 1037 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: and you know what you're getting when you watch a 1038 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: Penn State team from the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties or 1039 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: a Florida State team in the nineties. I think conference 1040 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: membership becomes a pretty huge change for teams. You know what. 1041 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: You know, Utah was considered to be and TCU was 1042 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: considered to be in West Virginia, and you know this 1043 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: movement around conferences I think is a pretty huge deal 1044 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: in terms of perception and identity and success in general, 1045 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: and so force of personality among coaches I think is big. 1046 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, Minnesota I think was in need probably of 1047 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: a reboot, and PJ. Fleck has done it so far. 1048 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: Really interesting, fascinating, successful job in Minneapolis. So I think 1049 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: there are a lot of a lot of it goes 1050 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: to coaches, but having those magical seasons. I think if 1051 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: you think about Northwestern football and what they did in 1052 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: the what mid nineties really has still to this day 1053 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: set the tone of Northwestern as like a scrappy, winning, 1054 00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 1: well put together program, I think that's I think it's 1055 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, a lot is tied back to coaches, But 1056 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: when you have those singular events, like you talked about 1057 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: that big win, that big moment that you know, we're 1058 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: still talking about Boise State in two thousand and seven, 1059 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: We're still talking about, you know, the giant Killers and 1060 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: the trick plays of Boise State, those become seminal foundational 1061 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: moments that define a program sort of almost in perpetuity. 1062 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the Statue of Liberty play, I mean we 1063 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,479 Speaker 2: went back, we we talked about that. 1064 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: Game right, and it was ultimately a big old exhibition game. 1065 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: But Boise had been building to that moment for years 1066 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: and look, it was a great game. If it weren't 1067 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: such a great game, maybe we're not talking about it, 1068 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't have that kind of outsized impact all 1069 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: these years later. But fun game to watch and it 1070 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: definitely helped put Boise on the map. Final question here, 1071 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: I got one more question. Yeah, this is from Cody. 1072 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: Next year, my wife and I will celebrate ten years 1073 00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: of marriage. In the early days, we hash out a 1074 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: contract that allowed each person full control of what's on 1075 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: the TV during a certain part of the season. Obviously, 1076 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: I negotiated for college football season. This was a loose 1077 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: agreement early on, but became more formalized as the years 1078 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: had passed. It includes addendums for bowl season, if my 1079 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: team reaches the playoffs, and the off season things like 1080 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: the draft, National Signing Day, et cetera. During the season, 1081 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm able to watch whatever games I want, knowing that 1082 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: in the off season I get no say. With lots 1083 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: of reality TV during her time, I've learned about this 1084 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 1: tie continue with the season starting later and still possibly 1085 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: on the brink of being canceled altogether. What suggestions do 1086 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: you have for what I should do slash watch during 1087 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: my time? Should I ask for an addendum because of 1088 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: the pandemic and if so, what would that be? Any 1089 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: other thoughts or suggestions, Cody, this is a hell of 1090 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 1: a question, sir. First off, congratulations on ten years or 1091 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, coming anniversary? I want marriage suggestions from the 1092 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: man who said maybe be passive aggressive about the dog 1093 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: sleeping in your bad as your big power tip. Much 1094 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: to our friend Andy Wall's horror. 1095 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 2: Again, the snarkiness permeates that side of the conversation. 1096 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: It's the new Chicago. Would you like to tell me 1097 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: all the answers here? Or do I get a say? No? 1098 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: You know why, sir, let's hear what you got. Okay, So, 1099 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: if you're claiming saturdays during the college football season, you're 1100 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: claiming fifteen saturdays. You know, perhaps you're only really watching 1101 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: TV at night and on weekends. That's my assumption. Not 1102 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people spend all day watching TV on 1103 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: a random Thursday. So if the full season is canceled, 1104 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 1: I say you just keep those saturdays to watch what 1105 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: you want to watch. And if there's if you can't 1106 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: think of anything that fills out your complete fall run 1107 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: of Saturdays. Just take some my ouse, just say, you 1108 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to take half of these for 1109 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: shows I want to watch, and then I'm going to 1110 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 1: take half of these. We I'm going to take a 1111 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 1: quarter of these for shows I want to watch, and 1112 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: then I'm going to pull these forward to the spring. 1113 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to defer, and you know I'm not going 1114 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 1: to take I'm not going to make the decision at 1115 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: opening kickoff. I'm going to defer till the spring. I 1116 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: think that's an option you have. I would say, do 1117 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot of research about shows that you've heard are good. 1118 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you watch the pilots yourself. You're like, I've always 1119 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: heard Fargo is good. I've always heard The Wire is good. 1120 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I've always heard, you know, Breaking Bad is good, Insecure 1121 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: or whatever. Always heard these shows are great. What about 1122 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 1: watching all of or some of the pilot and it's like, 1123 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to waste my pick 1124 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 1: on this show because it turns out I'm not into 1125 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: it at all. And so that's the way you go. 1126 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: You got to do your own scouting, is what I'm saying. 1127 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: You got a pilot Scout pilot Scout, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 1128 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you have shows. Ty, do you 1129 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: have a show right now? You're like, I'd really like 1130 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: to watch that, but I'm not sure about the old 1131 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 1: Kate taste. 1132 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 2: Kate's not into not into billions. I've gotten into billions, 1133 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 2: not into billions, Succession. I haven't gotten into Succession yet. 1134 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Now do you think she would like to know anything 1135 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 2: about Succession? 1136 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Really about it? Ty bars on the floor, Ty, you 1137 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 1: need to watch Succession, even if it's does she go 1138 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 1: to bed earlier than you sometimes not all the time? 1139 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 1: Take a take a late time night and watch the 1140 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 1: pilot of Succession. There's only two seasons. I think there's 1141 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: only ten episodes in each season. 1142 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: I would tell this gentleman here on the floor. I 1143 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:47,959 Speaker 2: would tell this gentleman here that, uh, if you can 1144 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 2: defer to springtime, you know, provided there is no season, 1145 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 2: that's got to be your first move. And you know, 1146 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I say that with the recognition of the fact that 1147 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 2: it could overlap some of the reality TV stuff, Like 1148 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what the state of production is in 1149 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: the reality TV universe, but my guess is it's not 1150 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 2: doing great at the moment, so. 1151 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a backlog problem. 1152 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Whether it's a bad I don't know what the deal 1153 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 2: is there, But my only point is that you could 1154 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 2: have some overlap and that could make things interesting if 1155 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 2: you push it off to the spring. I would probably 1156 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 2: just go on like Netflix right now and just find 1157 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 2: stuff that you're both into and just stick with that. 1158 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: That's the problem, though, That's that's the tough one. Yeah, 1159 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Like I want to watch an episode about Wahawk and 1160 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: street food of some food show on Netflix and Jody 1161 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: with and I wants to watch Lennox Hill and people 1162 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: like die of brain surgery and the emotions that go 1163 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: along with that. That's not how I want to spend 1164 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: my time, but I do it sometimes, and it's it's 1165 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 1: what was the last show? I won't I won't tell 1166 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,439 Speaker 1: her ty, what was the last show that you watched 1167 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: that you weren't into but you watched it because you're 1168 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: part of a partnership. I mean, that's most of the shows, Dan, 1169 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Just give me the show. I'm 1170 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,439 Speaker 1: not going to say anything. I'm not sensing it that loud. 1171 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: It's most of the shows. Okay, what which one was? 1172 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: Was truly pulling teeth. 1173 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 2: I forget the name of this movie, Dan, but it 1174 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 2: was about like a weird cult in Norway and they 1175 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 2: were cannibals. And Kate was like, oh, I heard this 1176 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 2: is really good. It was like something summer I forget 1177 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 2: s O M M. I R very strange movie. 1178 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Not for me. She thought it was terrific. I was like, A, 1179 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about this. What I think is going 1180 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: to happen. By the way, is I think a lot 1181 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: of shows that were too bad to get picked up 1182 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: and purchased and they're just sitting on a shelf somewhere. 1183 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Netflix is like floor is Lava? Okay, summer summer mid 1184 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 1: s O M mar excuse me? Okay, yeah, mine was 1185 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 1: probably lenox l weird flick just didn't want to watch. 1186 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, good question to go out on. 1187 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: We appreciate everyone asking these questions writing in. That's soliverbleot 1188 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Hitting us up on social media again, 1189 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 2: going out to the website soliverble dot com. Sign up 1190 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 2: for our newsletter now we'll send you all of our 1191 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 2: updates in do time. Also, we've got a subreddit at 1192 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 2: soliverble dot reddit dot com. 1193 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: If you like the show. Please go on out to your. 1194 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 2: Podcasting app of choice give us a five star review. 1195 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 2: We promised that kind of stuff helps, we would greatly 1196 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 2: appreciate us. 1197 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's all I got, Dan, That's all. I think. 1198 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: That's all I have. Soliverble dot com slash store is 1199 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: the move for the new very soft, very stylish T shirt, 1200 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 1: and I guess we should take this time to announce 1201 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 1: that we are adding Danny Kanells. Like, is that? Were 1202 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: we allowed to do that? Yeah? I know you got it. 1203 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 2: Next time I have to build up to that with 1204 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 2: a drum roll. 1205 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,959 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, a little bit out of sink here. All right, 1206 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 1: welcome to everybody who is listening to this Soli Burble. 1207 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 1208 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 2: for myself, Tye Hilda Brand. 1209 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,