1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,520 Speaker 1: Warning. 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Today's episode contained spoilers for episode eight of Daredevil Born 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: in on Disney plus The Isle of Joy. 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Be warned. 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Hello, it was Jesson's and I am Kissden. 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 4: No, I'm Rosy, I'm Rosey Nights, I'm Rothy And. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Extra Vision of the podcast where we 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Coming from my Art podcast where we'll. 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Bringing you three huge episodes week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday plus News. 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: And in today's episode, Matt Scott had a professionally concerned 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: which honestly she should have been earlier. 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: Bos I escapes by the skin of his tooth. 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: And and Vanessa and Wilson got some saucy splaining to do. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: Wow, what an episode, Rosie. 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: This show continues to be very comic bookie and silly 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: in the way of comic bookie and soapy the way 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: a comic book story is. And this was a very 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: fun episode that continues with a lot of the themes 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: and kind of tone and feel of the previous episode. 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: And I can't wait to talk about it. So we 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: open in Rikers, where the secure wing of Rikers, where 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: Bullseye is pensively a lot of staring out of windows 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: from the bad guys, and this sho we. 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: Should do an X ray vision super cut where it's 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: just people staring out of windows, staring out at he 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: loves to look out of a window. 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 1: He can't even he can't. 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: I don't believe it. 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: So you know, Bullseye's out there, he's looking out the 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: window of his isolation cell at an inmate out there, 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: like smelling a blue flower. And then the guards arrive 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: and Bullseye is shackled and told you know when he's like, 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: where am I going? You're going to general population aka 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: gen pop or lots of inmates want to kill you. 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: Okay, but why this is why I want to know. 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: Why do they want to kill him? 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Because like he because it's like a it's like a trophy. 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: It's like I don't know, I feel like because he's 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: not like an ex cop or something, he would be 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 3: much lower. 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Down on the or like fed. 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 3: He okay, he was actually a fed back in the day. Yeah, 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: they want to kill him. I understanding, Pops bad. 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: We go to we go to Red Hook where the 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Fisks are strolling through the through the Fisks upcoming project 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: Red Hook project construction site. 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: He loves the ports. 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: He's thinking, Nassawa, I never got the opportunity to thank 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: you for everything you did for the organization where I was. 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Away, and all of this is because of you. 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: All the funding that I was able to get was 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: because of your ideas. 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: And your plans. 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 2: And she's like, well, you know, why'd you throw it 56 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: all away to become mayor And he's like, no, you 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: don't understand. I'm combining the office of mayor with what 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: we were doing before to make this whole new like legal, illegal, 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: organized crime government thing. Like it's gonna be great, and 60 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: the Red Hook Project is a part of that. 61 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: I also like the way that he's like, these are. 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: Two of the most top criminals in New York and 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: he has to explain to how, like, Babe, there's a 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: lot of corruption in the New York Mayor's office, Like 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: we can really be doing something. Yeah, like this is 66 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: an opportunity for us. 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: They then talk about Luca, and it is clear that 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Vanessa did, in fact, not that Fisk knew that Luca 69 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: was coming to kill him, but she essentially seemed like 70 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: set Luca up to die by sending him to where 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: Fisk was knowing that there was no way that he 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: would ever vibe that, Luca, I mean. 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: And then Fiskus like, well, you know, thank you, I 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: have something to show you. 75 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: And so we wonder what that might. Then we go 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: to uh, Heather and Matt at the apartment. Heather is 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: obviously still struggling with the emotions from the attack and 78 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: from her having to gun down Muse, and she's also like, 79 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: and by the way, this is what we were right, 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: because here is that conversation that we knew it was 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: coming at some point where she's like, you know, the 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: thing with these masked guys, first of all, they don't 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: even do anything. Daredevil didn't even do it. I killed mus. 84 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: Daredevil was just there running about in his little onesie 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: pgs like a little boy. Him and Muse like a 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: little little little boys pretending to be the superheroes or 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: something grown men. But the acting like little boys. That's 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: all these masked figures are. And Matt is like, yeah, 89 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: but Daredevil's cool. 90 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: He came in, you didn't he And She's like, I 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: joll he. 92 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Came in, I killeds. 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: What did he do? 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: Then Buck shows up at the door and is like, 95 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: speak to Heather please, and that gives her a letter 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: which is congratulates her on killing must get from there, 97 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: and then invites her, along with a guest plus one 98 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: the inaugural Yeah to to Wilson fiskes mayor Fisk's inaugural 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Black and White Ball. And Matt is like, wait, how 100 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: do you know Fisk? And He's like, wait a second, 101 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: are you Fisk's therapist? 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: What? 103 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: Dude? 104 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: They used two I just have to say, they gotta 105 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: have a theyve got to have a more honest relationship 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: between the two of them. 107 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: This is she's keeping he's keeping secrets. It's bad time. 108 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's she has to do that, you know. Yeah, Ethically, 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: she can't just talk about who her clients. 110 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: If he had told her. 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: What Fisk really was and that he was their devil, 112 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: she would have been able to go into that with 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: more context. But he kept it from her. So now 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: she is Wilson Fist married therapist, which is incredible. 115 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: You ever run into your therapist in the wild, it's 116 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: the worst. 117 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: You don't want to see it. 118 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: You're like, it's the worst. 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: It's just like it's happened a couple of times, and 120 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: I literally just freeze up, like, oh my god. So 121 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: the thing that Wilson wants to show Vanessa is Adam. 122 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: Apparently Wilson at some point transported Adam to Red Hook. 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: Is that what happened the basement? 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: I claim back in the basement because he was, But 125 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: it does feel like he's like, I got something to 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: show you, and they're just strolling around. 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: So I think it's wherever the basement is. 128 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: I think Adam is in the basement and he's got 129 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: a bid. He's looking very cast away, very Tom Hanks's 130 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: looking very tough. 131 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: It's very sang well for him. 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's really really it's very count of 133 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Monte Cristo. 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: But before the escape. 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Ye, escape never happens. 136 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 4: The escape never happens for this man. 137 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you so. 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: Fiscus talking about how he's like, you know, every time 139 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: I look at at him, his hands, his artist's hands. 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I becoming rang. He just starts going. 141 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 4: He's like like, She's like, I kept my promise, Vanessa. 142 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: I never killed him. I will never kill him. 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, bro, but you did keep him as 144 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: a Let's roll back the tape. I think there's a 145 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: significant amount of space between what you promised and like. 146 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 2: The spirit of the promise regardless. Yes, He then says, 147 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: I mean this is Fisk channeling Shakespeare's Sonnets. He then says, 148 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: if I can't be with you, Vanessa, I cannot. 149 00:07:54,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: Be Wow Wow top ten MCU relationship. 150 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Yes. 151 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Adam is like, of course, begging for his life. 152 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: You know, if you let me go, I'll never tell 153 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: anybody about this. Just let me out, YadA, YadA YadA. 154 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: Matt and Heather, meanwhile, are continuing to argue. Matt is like, listen, 155 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: I can't tell you how I know this, but Fisk 156 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: is using you to get to me, which must sound 157 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: insane at this point. 158 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: Heaven must be so sick of this man, like he 159 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: is so fuck he seems so self centered. 160 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: If you don't what kind. 161 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Of main character bullshit is this? He wants me to 162 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: get to you why? 163 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: He's like, what do you mean the mayor? Who is 164 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: my marriage therapy client? He wants to get to you. 165 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: A random Moyer like what do you two have against 166 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: each other? 167 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: Oh? I feel like you should let her know, Matthew, yes. 168 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: And then she's like, well, how is me treating the 169 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: mayor like anything but a great career? Move for me, 170 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: and then she's like, and if you're so worried about it, 171 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: why don't you come to the ball with me? 172 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: And he's like, fine, Okay, you know what, Fine, I'll go. Okay. 173 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Like she's like, she's like, please, don't come just to 174 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: like fuck with the me though, and. 175 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: He's like, no, I'll just come. Don't worry will happen. 176 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: Back at the cage, gunshots ring out, Vanessa guns down Adam, 177 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: and then Wilson Fisk bricks up. Vanessa looks at him 178 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: like hearts pounding out of. 179 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: Her eyes and no. 180 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: For the next three hours they are engaged in the 181 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: most heated coitus in front of the cage containing Adam's corpse. 182 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: Dude, they were hot. 183 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: These were they freaks, but you know what, they match 184 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: each other's freak and I. 185 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: Love as the few are. I thought this was a 186 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: great twist. 187 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: I wasn't one hundred percent sure where they were going 188 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: to go with the reveal and whether it would break 189 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: things between Vanessa and Fisk or whether it would become 190 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: part of the kind of weird, flirtatious, grotesque dance. 191 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 4: That they play. 192 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: But I think it's really fun and I also love 193 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: the way that this episode, like so many of the 194 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: best episodes of the show, are about the reflections between 195 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: Fisk and yeah, Matt and now Matt's relationship with Heather 196 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: and Fisk's relationship with Vanessa, and I like that, Like 197 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: Matt and Heather are still in the withholding phase, but 198 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: there is like, yes this, you know we're gonna go 199 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: to this ball together. You can keep an eye on me, 200 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: like we can see what's going to happen. But Fisk 201 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: and Minessa is so far ahead that they're at They're 202 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: like murdering their enemies and fucking in the blood stage, 203 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: and you're just like, you know what, Matt and Heather, 204 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: you're doing okay? In the grand scheam of things, Like 205 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: in the Grand Schemer. 206 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Matt is late to the office as usual. I mean, 207 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: just be happy this guy went to work today. 208 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: Has he ever gone to work? I bus said, how 209 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: much has he clocked in? I'm like, get Charlie Cox 210 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: on the phone. 211 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: We need to know he's gotta go. He's gotta be 212 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: there three hours a week max. 213 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: He is no work, like just like help one client, bro, 214 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: like one client please please? 215 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: He goes in. 216 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: Kirsten is like, where the fuck have you been. Why 217 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: are you all beat up? What's going on? She then 218 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: like updates him on a case that's going on there. 219 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: The other the law firm that they're arguing against is 220 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: withholding discovery evidence and financial statements. Doesn't want them to 221 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: look at them. Christen then is like, listen, I also 222 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: have some other news and I don't want you to 223 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: fucking flip out, but you're going to flip out. He's 224 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: like what Bullseye is moved to gen Pop. He's like, wait, 225 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: why would they do that? And then she drops the 226 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: hammer because Wilson Fisk apparently the mayor demanded that he 227 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: go to gen Pop. 228 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Oh, no, one knows. 229 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: Let's go to a quick ad break and then we'll 230 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: be right back to can you Discovery? 231 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: And we're back. 232 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: So man Is Matt is upset about the fact that 233 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: Bulls has been moved to jen Pop, but what does 234 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: it mean? Meanwhile, Fisk is in his office, he meets 235 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: with his team. Sheila is like, Mayor Fisk, it's time 236 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: to start getting the money together. I need you at 237 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: some campaign events today. But Fisk is, this is a 238 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: crazy move from Fisk. He then goes down. He's not 239 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,479 Speaker 2: cancel all by cancel all by campaign boy butts today 240 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: we celebrate our successes. 241 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: What he's just done that he's gotten the glow, the 242 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: off the glow. He's like feeling yeah right, He's like, 243 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: I want to have a party where I can dance 244 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: with my wife who killed her boyfriend just for me. 245 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: That's what we're doing today, guys. 246 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that is so true. That's got to be. 247 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean, Daniel must be like, hey, boss, you're really 248 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: glowing today. Boss, you're looking good about you. You look good, 249 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: you look look you were fifteen pounds today. 250 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: He claims. He's like Vigili Lanty crime is down thirty percent. 251 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: What does that even mean? 252 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: I will say, look, if I have one critique show, yeah, 253 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: just like the out of the three fucking vigilantes they 254 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: have on this show, I will say I think that 255 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: is the only thing that I would say this show. 256 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: You can sense his missing from whatever the recuts. I 257 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 4: love most of this show. 258 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: I think for me, it has been just a step 259 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: above what I was expecting. And the writing is fantastic 260 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: that obviously the acting is incredible, but I do think 261 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: the vigilante crime but like we're barely seeing any vigilantes 262 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: is quite hilarious. 263 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 4: So I like that. Yeah, I like that. 264 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: Read He's like Vigilanti crimes down, muses dead White, Tiger's dead, 265 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 3: only like one more to. 266 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: Go, let's party. This is a successful quarter for us. 267 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: Then he shocks everyone by naming Daniel Deputy Mayor of Communications. Sheila, 268 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: who's been in politics like thirty years or whatever, is 269 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: like what this is and she does the move where 270 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: she's like, Daniel, no offense and turns to physically like 271 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: and it's like Daniel can't do. 272 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: This, eating alive. 273 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: But the city council burke like, come on, but this 274 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: is also again I think we were talking on our 275 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: Prestige TV episode and what is Prestige TV? 276 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: And what era are we in. 277 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: About how there is this kind of delayed response to 278 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: real life situations like the pit being a response to 279 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: COVID and it coming out now. But this show with 280 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: the Daniel character managed to presciently look at what it's 281 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: like when a high power politician just fills his ranks 282 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: with a bunch of people who have never done a 283 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: job before. 284 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: And guess what it actually is? 285 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: This easy, It is this easy to just put a 286 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: siven and be like, hey, this guy likes me. 287 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: He's in charge now. 288 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: He's the In fact, Daniel isn't just a young and 289 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: eager lieutenant, he. 290 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: Is he's the future of the city. What the fuck 291 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: does that means? 292 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: Like some creepy I guess his dream is like white 293 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: Mafiosa esque Maga kids are gonna be the next big thing, sure, bro. 294 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: Daniel then like drops to his knees and kissing the 295 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: boot ring and yeah, boot kissing the boot pledging everlasting 296 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: loyalty to Wilson, which we've heard that before. 297 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: We got it, Daniel, I'll burn festival. 298 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: Is that some kind of foreshadowing that he's gonna get 299 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: burnt alive? 300 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: I think his season comes to the end. 301 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: I feel like I like him getting killed or or 302 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: or you know, hideously burned. 303 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 304 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: We go back to Eminem and Matt hates his client. 305 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: He's Matt's. 306 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: This client that they have that paid them good money 307 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: is a piece of shit, apparently, and Matt just doesn't 308 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: take He's been sitting in on this deposition or meeting 309 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: or whatever it is for like ten minutes and he's already. 310 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: That Kirston's obviously done prepping this guy. 311 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: He's getting very frustrated at having to be at his 312 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: job for like close to thirty minutes, and he's starting 313 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: to like get really annoyed. He can tell the guy 314 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: is lying about like defrauding New York City teachers. 315 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: So matt flips. 316 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Out and he's like, well, I'll have you know that, 317 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,479 Speaker 2: according to Law Code two oh five dash A, lawyers 318 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: can't knowingly perjure themselves. 319 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: And he's like, what are you talking about? It's like 320 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: you're lying. 321 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: And if I know you're lying, how can I go 322 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: up there in court and argue what I know to 323 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: be lies? 324 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: And Christ is like, no, what are you talking about? 325 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: Not on law? 326 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: Like this weird idea that there's some kind of law 327 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: that a lawyer like can't represent ala. No, then all, 328 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: like all court cases would be stopped because one side 329 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: is not telling the truth, Matthew. And also, I don't 330 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: think it's like a MISSI ballink caught that. He's like, well, 331 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: I could hear with my super his heartbeat. 332 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: Maybe you just stressed him out because you look, I'm 333 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: not gonna lie. This guy clearly did steal the money. 334 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: And he also then mentions that his mom is a teacher, 335 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: his sister is a teacher. His wife's a teacher, so 336 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: he stole it because he knew how to steal it. 337 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: He is a scumbag, But Matthew, just generally you can't 338 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: walk into a room and start yelling at someone and no, 339 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: I expect that you don't know what's going on. 340 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: Why was he Maybe he was defording it for a 341 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: good reason. Why don't you ask him? 342 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: All I know is, Matt, you don't come to work, 343 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: and when you come into work, you shit on our 344 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: paying clients and then walk away. So Christian is like, 345 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? I'm worried about your acting 346 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 2: fucking crazy, and then Matt says some overwrought shit like 347 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: this is also feudle, like fighting for law and. 348 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: Justice, and then he leaves and he's probably been at 349 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: work for forty. 350 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 3: Five mates Max Max before leaving. I look, I am 351 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: a kissed in mcduffy fan. I like this character. I 352 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: want to see her in more. I don't think she's 353 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: just a Karen replacement. I think she's a or a 354 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: Foggy replacement. I think she's an interesting character I want 355 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: to know more about. But also guys like, let me 356 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: know more about her and also have her just tell 357 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: Matt to go fuck himself, like she's running this law 358 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: firm by herself. She doesn't need him or Cherry. He 359 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: needs to just go on to I mean, with the 360 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: spoiler earmuffs if you don't like tear about leaks, but 361 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: with the suit leaks that we have seen coming up, 362 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 3: we can assume that this season is gonna end with 363 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: Matt being out on the outs by himself, maybe faked 364 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: his own death, maybe something like that, or at least 365 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: that's where season two will find him because he's wearing 366 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: the black suit. So I would be interested to see 367 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: if she interest does boot him out, but we'll see 368 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: she should because he is annoying as hell when it 369 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: comes to his job. 370 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: Matt then goes to a neighborhood favorite, Josie's Bar, which 371 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: has not reopened since Bull's Eye violent. 372 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: Killed Foggy and yes inside the bar, but. 373 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: Josie is there just hanging out, just drinking, and so 374 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: Matt is like day drinking with Josie. 375 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Cherry arrives. 376 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: Kirsten sent him to keep track of Matt because she 377 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: was probably like Cherry, Matt's acting like a wild man, 378 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: you gotta go. 379 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: And he's like he's probably day drinking instead of being. 380 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: A US, which is true, and. 381 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: Matt starts to think, you know, there's something else going 382 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: on because the you know, with Bullseye being moved and 383 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: Foggy's death not really making sense, it's all connected somehow. 384 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: And then it all comes together when Josie comes out 385 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: with this specific bottle of Irish whiskey, Oh Melvinies and 386 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: says that Foggy, this is what Foggy was drinking on 387 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: the night he was killed, and this makes Matt realize 388 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: that Foggy was celebrating something, some kind of break in 389 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: his case that he had, and that must have been 390 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: why he was killed, because he was about to win 391 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: some huge case. Matt then goes to see Bullseye and 392 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: writers asks bullsey if did you kill Foggy because Fisk 393 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: hired you? Poindexter is just being super weird, making like 394 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: various philosophical statements and saying, you know, I have questions 395 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: too about like what happened, And then Matt again is like, 396 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: did you kill Foggy because Fitsk hired you to? 397 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: And Bullsay is like, I'll tell you, but I. 398 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: Need to get out first, and then Matt's like, okay, whatever, 399 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: it bashes his head into the table and leaves. 400 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: We go to the Black and White Ball. Daniel is riding. 401 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: High at the Black and White Ball. He sees Bebe, 402 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: which continues to be one of the craziest relationships in 403 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: this show. 404 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: He sees Bbe, who. 405 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: He clearly like, I think that there's on one level, 406 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: he sees Bebe as like, we're these two young New 407 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: Yorkers on the come up. 408 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, we're we're ascendant right now, And isn't this awesome? 409 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Isn't this cool? Like look at us? 410 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: And I think in his mind he definitely imagines like, oh, 411 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: she could be my Vanessa, Like look at us, We've 412 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: got this connector is also he likes her. 413 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: He likes you definitely, So he apologizes for pushing her 414 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 2: to like report lies in the BB report regarding the 415 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: muse in the task Force. 416 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: He then tells her and by the hey. 417 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: And but I'm now you're talking as a Deputy may 418 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: As the coms now, it's not crazy, baby, and the 419 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: kind of he's like flexing and he's like, look at 420 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: us well on the way to the top, BB Yerika 421 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: BB Report, I'm the Deputy may As. 422 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: The power couple, look at us. 423 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, across the across the ballroom, Jack Duquane, the Swordsman, 424 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: he is talking to Artemis Sledge, the you know her 425 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: and Arthur Sledge or this socialite New York, very very 426 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: wealthy couple met previously, and they both supposedly hate Fisks. 427 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: So Jack is like, look at us here, two people 428 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: that hate fisk, Why are we here? But Artemis is 429 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: like weirdly preoccupied about something. She's like clearly has a 430 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: lot of stuff on her mind. She kind of wanders off, 431 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: and this raises Jack's suspicions a little bit. 432 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Something's off. 433 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: Heather is there looking around waiting for Matt, looking great, 434 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: her hair looking great, looking wonderfully done up for this 435 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: ball and she's clearly like frustrated and fuming because Matt 436 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 2: said he would be there and he's not there. And 437 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, like the lights drop and 438 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: you hear like the Chicago Bulls theme music, and the 439 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: voice gets on that na Mare and first lady, what's 440 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: that that Vanessa Fisk? 441 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: And they play this crazy like. 442 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: The most evil milling song of old. 443 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like sounds like it truly sounds like you're riding 444 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: into Mordor with this fucking music. 445 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: And let's take a quick break and come. 446 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 3: Back in second. 447 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: And we're back. 448 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, of course, guess what Bullseye breaks out of prison? 449 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: How does he do it? Though? 450 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: Jay thinks this is straight from the coll mix and 451 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: I love it. 452 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: It is really great. 453 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: So apparently when Matt bashed his head, he loosened a tooth, yes, 454 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: which which Bullseye then goes to the dentist to like, 455 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: uh world, to the doctor to have like stitches done 456 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: in his head from when he's his head bashed, But 457 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: that tooth is loose, and so while he's sitting there 458 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: manacled to the chair, he sucks the tooth out of 459 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: his out of his h gum, I guess the gum 460 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: hole which crazy suction from Ben Point Dexter didn't know 461 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: he had that kind of talent as well. Then he 462 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: spits the tooth into the guard's eye, blinding him and 463 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: then immediately escapes, gets all like the little like scalpels 464 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 2: and shit and just starts killing everybody. 465 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's done it, he's out. He's done it in 466 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: the comics. 467 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: Like in some really crazy times, like he did it 468 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: in a Captain America book. 469 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: He killed someone with his tooth. 470 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: He's done it obviously in dat evil like this man, 471 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: he loves to do a crazy killing. In fact, I 472 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: was thinking today about one of the wildest parts of 473 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: the law is that he. 474 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: In prison, like they would have to like. 475 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: Give him stool softeners so he didn't kill people with 476 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: his poop, so he didn't just be pooping out bullets. 477 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 4: Like come on, man, like this guy is a crazy guy. 478 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: This is he the most overpowered guy in the Marvel 479 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: universe with this tooth bullet that, by the way, killed 480 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 3: multiple people. Okay, I do have to bring this up, 481 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: big conversation in the discord. 482 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. 483 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 4: I agree with you and Joel on this now. 484 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: But the disc or conversation was, did Matt Murdock know 485 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: that by smashing Bullseye's face on. 486 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 4: The table he was going to end up escaping and 487 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: trying to kill fist? 488 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: No way, no way he did that out of pure aim. 489 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: I don't think so, simply because of the nature of 490 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: how many people bulls I killed when he got out 491 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: of prison, and Matt could not make that good with himself. 492 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: I don't believe. 493 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: But I understand why it feels ambiguous when you know 494 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: bulls eye immediately says thank you, counselor, and doesn't make 495 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: any you know, argument that he didn't just randomly smash 496 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: his face against the table, which is what Matt. 497 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: And this is just Matt out of control. 498 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just classic like a violence against imprison people. 499 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: Matt is not new in doing this, but I do 500 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 3: like out. I do think you make a great statement. 501 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: I think Matt is out of control at this point. 502 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: His session with Wilson and the death of Foggy is 503 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: making him lose any kind of moral center that he had, 504 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: which has always been kind of blarry for him. And 505 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: I actually think it makes a very very interesting dad 506 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: devil kind of interpretation. Then what we often see with 507 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 3: the kind of guilt ridden Matt, like he will be 508 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: guilty about this at some point, but right now he's 509 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: just on that quest for revenge. 510 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: We go back to the ball. 511 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: Vanessa comes up to Heather and he's like, thank you 512 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: for all your help with me and Wilson, and that 513 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: was great, and they have some small talk and then 514 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: she goes off, and then we look over and the music, 515 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: the carmina burana like choral music starts up again, and 516 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: who is it? But Matt entering the black and white ball, 517 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: He's got his keen to complete the look, and he's like, 518 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: apparently can he's heading right for Wilson. I don't know 519 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: what Heather thinks is like is he going by smell 520 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: directly towards Wilson? 521 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: Like how is he doing? 522 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: I just think this guy's putting it on. 523 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: Like he's like navigating a dance floor with a question, 524 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: is Matt Madow blind? Like does the through the powers 525 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: you have mean that he isn't blind? Like it's very controversial, 526 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: and yeah, I am intrigued to see what happens next. 527 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: But come on, Matthew, you are not doing a good 528 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: job a pretending anymore. 529 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: Then this is the guy who said, yeah, I just 530 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: bump into stuff all the time to the point that 531 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm like bleeding and bruised. And then you watch him 532 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: like navigate a dance floor at a at a party. Anyway, 533 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: Heather like intercepts him and she's steamed. 534 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: Where were you? Why didn't you tell I thought you 535 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: were coming? 536 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: And then you don't show up And then he's like, 537 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: well I was I was just yeah, I'm here now. 538 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: And by the way, I was just randomly visiting Bullseye 539 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: at Rikers. 540 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: She's like, what what? What's what? Why do you you 541 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: don't call? 542 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: You show up whenever you want, and then when you 543 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: show up you have the craziest stories about what's been 544 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: going on. 545 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: Matt. 546 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 2: Then hears Dukane chatting with Fisk, and as he's supposed 547 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: to be having this like very serious, really serious conversation 548 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: with Heather about their relationship, he starts listening into that conversation. 549 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: So she's like, you're not even listening to me. 550 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: This infuriates her, which, by the way, she's gonna be 551 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: used to it at this point because this man is 552 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: always snooping on someone with his superhering like you know, yes, 553 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: that'll be He's like eating her out in the New 554 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 2: York offist and then he's hearing like an old lady 555 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: get mugged and he's like. 556 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: Oh, I gotta go outside. I got through this, like ah. 557 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: Fisk and Ducane then go off and they discuss Red 558 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: Hook and Fisk basically shakes Ducane down for money. 559 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, uh need money for that project, 560 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: and it'd be a shame if it was to come out. 561 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: The doctor Kaine was. 562 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: The swordsman like he basically says, like, I know you're 563 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: the swordsman, and the task force will come after you 564 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: unless you like write a chat. 565 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: I love this, but like in the context of what 566 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: we've seen of the swordsman, like he's just like a 567 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: good step dad who's also like helping out with some swordwright. 568 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: This man is not like a well known vigilante wilst 569 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: the face. 570 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: But I love that in the context of you know, 571 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: his wife being arrested as like mirror mask or whatever, 572 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: like now he is like he would be worried about that, 573 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: So I like this. I also like this is a 574 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: great example of what I think this show does well. 575 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: Even in the silliest kind of big swing moments or 576 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: the wild kind of set pieces like the Black and 577 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: White Ball, it shows that Wilson is not a moral person, 578 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: which a lot of times he claims that there is 579 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: this moral quest against vigilantes, but really that's just the 580 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: oppressed class that he is choosing to oppress to make 581 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: it seem like he's doing something. And it's funny because 582 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: here we see that actually, if you're a rich vigilante, 583 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: he'll just ask you for money. He's not gonna put 584 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: you in prison. And you're gonna try to kill He'll 585 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: just extaught you. 586 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: So that's different. Last to it, like he doesn't. 587 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: Really care if Swordsman isn't a bit gilante. He just 588 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: has if he's getting money from Swordsman. 589 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 590 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Task Force guys are all over the place, all 591 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: over this ball. They are like basically Wilson's pretorian guard. 592 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: At this point, they are acting up too, like really 593 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: crazy shit. 594 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: Dirty Cop Powell sees a waiter take a phone pick 595 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: of the ball and so they snatch him off the 596 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: floor and they're getting ready to maybe kill this guy. 597 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 4: Like yeah, he's just having fun. 598 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: At this point, when Chief Gallow comes down, it is 599 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: like you stop that. 600 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you prosecuted for assault. 601 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: And Pal's like, wait, that's we didn't even do anything 602 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 2: this you want to see assault and then puts this 603 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: guy's hand in the fry like what the fuck? 604 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Like no, and Gallo is like holy shit, like did 605 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: you just do that in front of me? 606 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 2: And then next thing you know, there's like a the 607 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: other Task Force guys in the hall and Gallo realizes 608 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: like he has to back down, like this is they're 609 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: out of control and this is actually unsafe for me 610 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: right now. 611 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: They say Tim as well, like we don't work for you, 612 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: like it's done, like in. 613 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: Case you are we are not like cops under the 614 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: guys of the NYPD anymore. 615 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: We are you know, Wilson fisks m YPD. 616 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: That's right. 617 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: Daniel and BB are still having their conversation. BIB is wondering, 618 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: you know, which I think is like an important thing 619 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: to think about for BB if she's lost her journalistic 620 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: perspective because of the proximity to power that Daniel provides, Like, 621 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: am I getting too close to them? 622 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: We? 623 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's certainly good to think about, considering 624 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: what the conversation she's about to have with Gallo. She 625 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: sees Gallo and she starts grilling him about the Task Force. 626 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: He calls her out for going with Dan's version of 627 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: the MEWS story. 628 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: Apparently she went. 629 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: To print she published that the task Force took out 630 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: news and he's like, everybody knows that was dared, Well, 631 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: it was actually Heathery. Yeah, but it's but it's interesting 632 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: that Biebe actually did succumb to the pressure from Daniel, 633 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: and then Gallo calls her basically Fisk's propaganda, Like when 634 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: did you become fisk propaganda minister? And she's like, oh, yeah, 635 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: when did you become the chief of the s S, 636 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: comparing Gallo to Himmler, which I think is a little Bobe, 637 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: that's a little fucking. 638 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: St But he did come out uncle a minister of 639 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: propaganda off the one book post, so I think that 640 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: kind of that trading, that trading Bob's And. 641 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: Also she she does know. 642 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: That he agreed to be the head of this vigilanti 643 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: task force for most even though he didn't know. 644 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: He's only yeah, he's the nominal heat. Certainly they don't 645 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: listen to him. But I think it's an important conversation 646 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: about like, can you if you were working for a 647 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: corrupt leader, is or any benefit to society as a 648 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: moral person to work for them and change trying them 649 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: in order to try and keep them from going too far. 650 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: And I think that's how Gallo probably sees himself, like 651 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm a check on Wilson just being crazy. 652 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: But he's also the other hand realized after seeing someone 653 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: get their hand French Fried, he doesn't have that control anymore. 654 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: He doesn't have the juice that's not working, and certainly 655 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: Bebe is coming to that realization now with Daniel's ascendency 656 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: and the fact that she's already crossed the journalistic line 657 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: in printing that mute stuff. Then uh, you know, they 658 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: start talking a little bit and Gallo's like, do you 659 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: know that Wilson Fisk killed your uncle? Shockingly, BB is 660 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: like yeah, I know that, which. 661 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, what no, no, no, no, no, I think this 662 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: Actually I love this twist because she's like, yeah, that's 663 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: why I'm here. And you see this difference between how 664 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: talking to Gallo and she's like, not everything I print 665 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: as under my real name. She's like, sure, I printed 666 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: that one story to make Daniel think I was on 667 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: his side, but like, if you ever want to print 668 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: something real like this is the you know, probably encryptied 669 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: email that is not straight to BB. 670 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: And we see that. 671 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: Then I think BB is using Daniel to get closer 672 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: to Fisk to find out what happened to her uncle. 673 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: And we get this great moment where after they. 674 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: Agree to kind of team up in some vague way 675 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: that I'm sure we will find out, she puts on 676 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: this like huge smile and kind of bounces back to Daniel, 677 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: and I think that version of BB we've been seeing 678 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: is a mask to follow this revenge quest for her uncle. 679 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: So they're teaming up. Meanwhile, Matt and Heather are still arguing. 680 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 2: He tells Heather that Fisk again. He's like, he hired 681 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: you to get to me, and she's like what. 682 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: She's like, me, what you're talking about? 683 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: They are? You know? 684 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: The argument is getting more heated. Matt's like, I'm gonna 685 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: go talk to them. I'm not gonna confront him, and 686 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: Heather's like, I'm coming with you. But before they can 687 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 2: get there, the spotlight hits the Fisks and it's time 688 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: for the couples dance. 689 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: This is an incredible moment. So Heather, who has been. 690 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: Like furious rightfully with Matt, arguing heatedly with him, watches 691 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: as Matt goes, Okay, here goes the dance. 692 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have. 693 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: This is how we have to get close to them. 694 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 2: As we're gonna have to hit the dance floor, She's 695 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: like what. 696 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: He folds up in a very like cool guy like way. 697 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: Folds up his cane, drops it on a waiter's tray, 698 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: crazy as the waiter is like what, and then goes, 699 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to lead And then proceeds to lead 700 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: her in a ballroom dance. And it's crazy because and 701 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: this is again comic accurate Matt, because Heather, who was 702 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: just a second ago really furious at Matt, is all 703 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: of a sudden like the flush is coming back her vase. 704 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: She's just like, oh, yeah, I remember why I'm attracted 705 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: to you. Why does this work? Like why wnnoying? 706 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: But it works on me, baby, And he's that dancing 707 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 3: and that kind of like it's very silly, kind of 708 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: I don't know about dancing all music guys like in 709 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: this sense, so apologies if it's wrong, but it's very 710 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 3: like passionate kind of salsa, like they're doing a classical 711 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: dance but there's a little flat to it, and they're 712 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: getting close. 713 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: Yes and yeah, and. 714 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 3: Then and then something something happens that will change the 715 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 3: way that Matt. 716 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 4: Sees this situation. 717 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Kingpin is like talking trash from the other side 718 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: of the room. It's like, fuck you man, and. 719 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 4: He knows he can hear him. 720 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: He's like, you fucking you could hear me. I know 721 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: you could hear me. 722 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: I've your girlfriend is my therapist, Like I know you're 723 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: dressing up his Darnevil again, like, look at you chasing 724 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 2: me here. Just then, Buck Cashman gets a call telling 725 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: him that Bulls I escaped. He immediately informs Fisk. Matt 726 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: hears Vanessa tell Wilson that she is tell him something, 727 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: and he realizes in that moment that it was Vanessa 728 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: who ordered to hit on Foggy. 729 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: What a twist. 730 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 4: What twist. 731 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: But if you are of the mindset that Foggy's death 732 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: is not real, which I know many of you are hoping. 733 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: I think it might not I do actually think it 734 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: might not be real. 735 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: It is Vanessa fakes Foggy's death so that Matt cal Wilson. 736 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 4: That's like her scheme. 737 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 3: And I'm saying now that Vanessa is the one that 738 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: little easter egg that you call of the number of 739 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 3: the office being the same number of the episode where 740 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 3: you know, the issue where Matt kind of does where 741 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: this is revealed, And yeah, it's gonna be interesting because that. 742 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: I truly cannot believe that we really might be going there, 743 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: and I was firmly against it until this and now 744 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what I might. 745 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: See? 746 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: This is a very this is comics. Uh yeah, Dead 747 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 3: of a Volume two ninety two. That's when you're kind 748 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: of seeing that Wilson, that Vanessa stees and uh yeah, 749 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: crazy crazy situation here that they revealed that. 750 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 4: But I'm not surprised. 751 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: She was the big boss at the time. It makes 752 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: sense she But why did she do it? 753 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: That's what That's what I want to That's the question 754 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: we don't know. So Matt cuts in with Vanessa. He 755 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: asks hers straight out, why did you order Foggy's death? 756 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: And but before she can really answer, he hears like 757 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: the clacking of like the bolt of a sniper rifle. 758 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: He realizes someone's taking aim, and then Matt does the 759 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: most Matt fucking thing ever. 760 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: This guy jumps in front. 761 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,959 Speaker 2: Of Wilson Fisk, takes the bullet in the shoulder, sets 762 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: the floor and is bleeding out as the weather like 763 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 2: you know, kneels over him, and then we go to 764 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 2: the credit. 765 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: You know what. She is like so hot for him 766 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 4: in that moment. 767 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: She's like, oh he did even though he's obsessed with 768 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 3: this guy, he saved his life. 769 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 4: Like why is Matt like this? 770 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: Like I think the true reason for me is like 771 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 3: this is a story just like Batman and the Joker 772 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: and every great villain and their you know, heroic counterpart. 773 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 3: This is really about the relationship between Wilson, Fisk and 774 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: Matt and I understand that also Matt is supposed to 775 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 3: not want to kill people and save people's lives because 776 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 3: he's a Catholic. But this man has absolutely just like 777 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 3: beat the shit out of multiple people this season and 778 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: definitely giving people like severit CTE or like head traumas. 779 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 4: So I don't know if I'm buying that. 780 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 3: I think this is like in the moment he just 781 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 3: he would have potentially let Wilson get shot if he 782 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: hadn't just found out that Vanessa was the one who 783 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: killed Foggy, right, But also then he has this complex 784 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 3: moment where he's thinking, like, shit, I can stop the 785 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: man who killed my best friend from killing another person, 786 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 3: so I want to stop him, and he just, dude, 787 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 3: when he took that bullet, I was screaming at the TV, 788 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: like on multiple rewatches too. 789 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: It just gets me every time. Such a good moment. 790 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: I also love that Matt. Here's the thing about Matthew 791 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: Murdoch Daredevil. This guy never misses a game. He's not 792 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: like Joel Embiid or some of these other guys. He's 793 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: getting concussed, he's falling off of buildings, he's getting shot, 794 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: he's getting stabbed. He's like fighting Bullseye with eight knives 795 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 2: sticking out of his body. 796 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you. 797 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: Tomorrow night he will be out there again somehow with 798 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: a bullet in his chest. Bett Murdock will be suiting 799 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 2: up as Daredbil. This guy just plays when it's game time. 800 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 2: He's yeah, he's getting up, he's doing it. We got 801 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: to find out about why how these. 802 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: Why did she? Why is she? Why did Vanessa do this? 803 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 3: Okayeah, biggest question because I either I think Bullseye is 804 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 3: I think Bullseye it took the shot at Wilson because 805 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 3: he feels like Wilson set him up. 806 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 807 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: So like biggest questions going into the finale, why did 808 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 3: Vanessa do this? Is I am distinctly getting the flavor 809 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 3: that Matt is going to like team up with Gallo 810 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 3: and maybe bebe in some kind of like good I 811 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 3: don't like good cops, like at the end of The 812 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 3: Batman where it's like there are good cops too, So 813 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 3: I feel like that could definitely happen because that hinting 814 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 3: that Gallo is going to be this kind of better 815 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,959 Speaker 3: reflection of the police than the anti Vigilanti task Force. 816 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: Will Wilson feel like he owes Matt and the thing 817 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 3: for saving his life? Will that change their relationship? 818 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: No way, I think of anything, he'll have less respect 819 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: for Matt. 820 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, like why didn't you just let him kill me? 821 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: Like, why didn't you want to have had the chance? 822 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: That was it? 823 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 2: You could have been got rid of me, And here 824 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 2: you are because you're absolutely stupid moral code. You saved 825 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: my life after everything that I've done, Like you are weak? 826 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he loses complete respectful. 827 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 5: Also, does Wilson and the season still as Maya or 828 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 5: do we see him make that transition to set up 829 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 5: season two. 830 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what it would take right now for 831 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 2: him to get torn down as Mayor. He's he's almost 832 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: doing everything out in the open. 833 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean. Would he want to 834 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 4: step away from it and just be the kingpin? 835 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: Or maybe the finale is him saying I am both, 836 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 3: like both exist, like I'm Kingpin Mayor of New York 837 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 3: or whatever. 838 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: You know. 839 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about a lot about the born again element, 840 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: and I do think that this season is it's it 841 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 2: matches the overall kind of shape of the first two 842 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 2: acts of Born Again in that I think what it's 843 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: about is driving Matt over the edge, making him cross lines, 844 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: making him think that it's all for nothing. Daredevil doesn't 845 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 2: do anything, you know, arguing the law doesn't do anything. 846 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 2: So that I think that next season as I think 847 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 2: Fisk will continue to be Mayor and be more powerful 848 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 2: than ever, and I think Matt will. Next season's Matt 849 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: is going to be the Daredevil kingpin of crime, where 850 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 2: Matt is like, you know what, I'm gonna go and 851 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: take over the gangs. I'm going to bring them to 852 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: heal and then I'm gonna I'm gonna be like the 853 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,479 Speaker 2: hyper violent Daredevil that I need to be to really 854 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: make a difference. I'm gonna cross lines, I'm gonna go 855 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: completely underground. And I think that's maybe what is going 856 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: to happen. I think maybe Matt he might fake his 857 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: death after. 858 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: This, yeah exactly, because we got to see Yeah, I'm 859 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 3: interested to see where it goes next. It feels like 860 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 3: it's going to be oddo wrap it up in one episode, 861 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 3: but I will be very excused. 862 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 2: A punisher must come back right, So how does he 863 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: get involved? 864 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: I think that Matt is going to have to call 865 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: in some kind of crew to stop to help stop 866 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 3: Bullseye now he's out and about that's my guess. But 867 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to team up with Wilson. 868 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 3: That's not that's not really in the cards for them. 869 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 3: But I do think that maybe maybe Frank comes back 870 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 3: because he hears Matt got shot. Yeah, which could also 871 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 3: mean we could get a Karen return as well, because 872 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 3: she might be worried about him for. 873 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: A Foggy return. They didn't do that. 874 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: That would be so crazy. 875 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: If he do that, I will lose it. 876 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: Tomorrow and Extra Vision, we're recapping season one of the 877 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 2: Last of Us and then Monday we're getting ready for 878 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: and Or, as we debate is Rogue one a good film? 879 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: Our Last of Us season to coverage will begin Tuesday 880 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: and on Thursday, recovering the inclusion of Dared Devil Born 881 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 2: Again season one. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, 882 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: Bye x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and 883 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 884 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman. 885 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuza par. 886 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean, Jonathan and Bay wag. 887 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 888 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman. 889 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and Heidi. 890 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 4: Our discord moderate, though