WEBVTT - EP 382: Why Romance Is The Bare Minimum (Ft. Mike The Poet)

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Horrible Decisions. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I can because, bitch, i've been moaning, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing some good ship. I'm your girl. Madv Aka

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<v Speaker 2>well cor buks aka did beach?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, y'all, I'm weezy. Welcome back for another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're not solo, but we have a man in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. So y'all could either love him r we do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a poet, he's an author, he's my friend out

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<v Speaker 2>of Philly. We were touring with Tonight's conversations and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad to have you shoes at.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do shoes. Are you joking?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>She must. She didn't know boyfriend. She didn't know about

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<v Speaker 3>the shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would I know about the shoes. I just know

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<v Speaker 4>about the poaching.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's all together. It's a package.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see the bottom of your socks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on camera right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Are the bottom of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Stat walking here with shoes?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he has shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>You thought you walked in with no shoe typing ship

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<v Speaker 2>you took him off, you thought, oh wait, you thought

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<v Speaker 2>he just walked No shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>My expectations so low of people. I'm so aware. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, listen, wherever slow your boat. You already kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have a hole teppy vibe. You might have been like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be that close to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Earth if no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna lie. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about hoteppie.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's giving. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to come up with that other word. Maybe artsy,

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<v Speaker 2>but not because you're from Philly but you do poetry.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just being funny, like you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you came here with a danglyar.

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<v Speaker 2>No, like ho teppy to me is nineteen keys that

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. Like hotel, Like I don't think take grand

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<v Speaker 2>minds the hotel when dudes be saying ship to me,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when I.

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<v Speaker 1>Walked in and you said something about your boyfriend, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really believe in boyfriend whatever you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So wait, you said you don't believe in boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes you for me? No, it's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Boyfriends is not a thing. So what is just the.

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<v Speaker 3>Concept of it? I mean I feel like like, like

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<v Speaker 3>do we have to stop here on a way to

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<v Speaker 3>the altar?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? So you just believe in you love her.

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<v Speaker 3>If you love her, either marry her or Sarah free.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh why do you have to Why can't we test

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<v Speaker 4>the waters first?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I mean, why do we have to

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<v Speaker 3>put these relationship handcuffs? Like you know how to swim? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't have my relationship just like you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got no ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, relationship with our handcuffs is a little boring. In

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<v Speaker 3>my personal opinion, I would say get handcuffs.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, in the bedroom where you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>just locking somebody down, and even that word I don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't like the locking down to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for me, this is what I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>good prim and is mean like when I say no handcuffs,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't want a relationship to feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>can never do anything again. Like my man just said

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<v Speaker 1>to me a few nights ago. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I said this on Horrible, but we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor and butch red parties because I have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine who's getting married, and he was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not having a bachelor party. I'm like why, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I having some last fucking night of some shit?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do without telling you. He was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in a relationship where I'm like gotta fucking

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<v Speaker 1>ham on my throat, Like I don't need a bachelor party.

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<v Speaker 1>I can live my life with you, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. Year. I was like, damn, dude, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having one if you think I'm not about the swat

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<v Speaker 1>away a penis.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I was gonna say bachelorette parties are different

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<v Speaker 2>than bachelor parties.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess, like when he said that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, Yo, all of my friends that have talked

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<v Speaker 1>about bachelor parties need to like get this last moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't going to jail. And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I say that to say, I think when a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship has too many restrictions, that's what keeps people from commitment.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I don't like that commitment has a tie

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<v Speaker 1>to there's nothing else, or I can't have this other

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<v Speaker 1>experience or whatever. So that's why I'm very happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship that's like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But but wait, are you you're monogamous though?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Okay, So I think that that's the difference too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the the constructor idea that you're locked down and

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<v Speaker 2>can't do anything else. When you have a non traditional,

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<v Speaker 2>non monogamous relationship, all of those like don't press the

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<v Speaker 2>red button, and if you press the red button, it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing goes out the window because you know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>open to just communicate with your partner. A I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of want some of the pussy today. Are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it together?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think monogamous men are monogamous because they don't

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<v Speaker 3>want it, but they have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people are monogamous because that makes them

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<v Speaker 1>feel safer soon Like No, I just mean like I

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<v Speaker 1>think monogamy makes you feel like you only want me.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that we're good. If you want someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>you must not love me enough.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a bit mediocre depressing, Like if that was the

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<v Speaker 3>advertisement I read for monogamy, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldnt think about what happens when people get cheated on.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think, I mean, I guess in my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>monogamy is not the it's not the requirement, it's the decision.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like yo, like, have you ever met a person

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<v Speaker 3>of abundance and you don't need nobody else? Like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not monogamous because I have to be. It's like what

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<v Speaker 3>else could I need?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the it's the desires. Doesn't don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that like you don't need anyone else. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>best friend, but I got other friends. I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, but the connection you have with this non

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<v Speaker 3>familiar human transcends every other relationship, or in my belief

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<v Speaker 3>it does. And that's that's such a like the two

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<v Speaker 3>become one, you know, so now the one of us

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<v Speaker 3>might want to go do something, but like this is

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<v Speaker 3>this is the homie, like this is my heart now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when people are in these like mids like

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<v Speaker 3>these mid tier, mid depth relationships, then it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in this waiting room. That's like really, it's like damn,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to get back to single because I

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<v Speaker 3>hate it in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I only hate that idea because as a woman who

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want marriage, yeah I want a partner, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be viewed as a mid tier limbo

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<v Speaker 2>as relationship only because there's no end goal of marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this idea that you're either single or you're married,

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<v Speaker 2>it leaves out so many of the people that don't

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<v Speaker 2>seek marriage or that piece of paper or to walk

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<v Speaker 2>down the aisle like you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we just got three different I know.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were talking, all I thought was, oh, that hurts,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't feel mid tier just because of other

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<v Speaker 1>sexual desires. So like, for example, if anyone's watched Will

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<v Speaker 1>and Jada talk about each other or Red Table Talk

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Their love seems like there's no else I could touch it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't seem mid tier. They negas right, So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I think somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean, but it's not like how you

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<v Speaker 3>just said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, like they.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast not too much on Will, because I love

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<v Speaker 3>you so Will.

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<v Speaker 2>In person, baby, I wanted to hop on that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If Jada was in the room, I would have asked

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<v Speaker 2>her permission. Now that motherfucker got a little to hold

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<v Speaker 2>that palm, because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, no, no, no, no, he did. I'm playing y'all laughing.

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<v Speaker 4>He really sat up there during Bad Boys and said,

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<v Speaker 4>do you know what I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Mother?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I ain't even gonna hold you. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>in a room with a man with big dick energy

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<v Speaker 2>in a while. The way Will sat up there with

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<v Speaker 2>some big dicken.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like that don't mean I don't love my man.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't at the bad boy. You're like, whoa, whoa?

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<v Speaker 2>And I also thinks there is as is a what

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get the.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think, I think. I think the more

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<v Speaker 3>we you do more Jesus, Listen, he did honestly. No, no, no, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean less of the Sinny's nuts. Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this world is This world is a beautiful place, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But there's more than just re enforce here. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 3>we can start. We could start dating our demons and

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<v Speaker 3>dancing with him and taking them home and fucking them

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<v Speaker 3>and then calling them cousins and shoot and bail for him.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. I'm not like, how how

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<v Speaker 3>how slippery are we gonna go down this slope? If

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, everything's pretty much on the table. You

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<v Speaker 3>can be dudes, like, you know what, you should want

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<v Speaker 3>to desire another person, Like it's totally normal to desire

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<v Speaker 3>another person while you're so quote unquote madly in love.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only is it okay to desire them, but you

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<v Speaker 3>should also be in a space that's safe enough that

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<v Speaker 3>I can come to you with my feelings and you

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<v Speaker 3>should accept them and let me be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like that. I like everything you said. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're SI was like you were trying to be sarcastic,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be sarcastic to me. To me, I hate

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<v Speaker 2>the limits and bounds that we place on ourselves, like

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<v Speaker 2>a we got one life to live now. Yes, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been here before, I know I have in another realm,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be here again. But to me, where I'm at,

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<v Speaker 2>where I know. I went to Mexico. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>swim with well sharks. I just did the south of France,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to try all these different foods cuisines,

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<v Speaker 2>visit the world. I want to do as much as

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<v Speaker 2>humanly possible while I'm here, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be limited by the bounds of other motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 3>Of peace in school. But it is not in the

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<v Speaker 3>tent commandments.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>God is not saying don't get an oxygen tank and

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<v Speaker 3>climb up Machu Pichu. He's not saying okay, He's just saying,

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<v Speaker 3>thou shall not still, thou shall not kill you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the evils shall not cove it. LUs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, phone marriage, we don't we don't fucked up a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the things they say we should I think.

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<v Speaker 4>So, just to make it clear, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I I feel like I'm my house and household is

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<v Speaker 1>not this whole willy nilly like it's every day type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do believe in moments, right, yes, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty three years old. You look great, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately he already happened. He can't. He's in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't experienced it all yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>There really is not to sound like New York bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>there aren't many moments where I am feeling like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just craving some of them, Like, that's not it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I just happen to be with my homegirls,

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<v Speaker 1>we take a trip to Paris, right well, just in

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<v Speaker 1>France and there's some really cute French guy that's flirting

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<v Speaker 1>with me on the dance floor or American fun moment. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, that just was something that I could do. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people start to resent their partner because they

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<v Speaker 1>can't enjoy a moment in time, and that to me work, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>I self work.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, like when you hang around with

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<v Speaker 3>people with mud on their hands, they're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>it on your shirt, so you can't do nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you should have seen that type of person before

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<v Speaker 3>it got to that thing. Like that's different. Like love

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<v Speaker 3>is patient, love is kind, love is free?

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<v Speaker 1>But why is If love is free, then why is

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<v Speaker 1>it jeopardized? If I just made out with some French kindidance?

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<v Speaker 3>But listen, there's a moment, right, and then it's like okay,

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<v Speaker 3>like there's also decorum, there's also integrity, there's also honored

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<v Speaker 3>But what.

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<v Speaker 1>But how is me having that moment of freedom? And

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<v Speaker 1>I would even just boil it down to well, the

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<v Speaker 1>question fun either jeopardize or invalidate or or make me

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's not loyal anybody?

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<v Speaker 3>If you want me no, kiss them?

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<v Speaker 1>I the word kiss. But even if if it was sex, right,

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<v Speaker 1>why does that take away what I have with this person?

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<v Speaker 4>How does it then tarnish.

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<v Speaker 2>All the cheating is Listening, what I delt with that

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<v Speaker 2>cheating is different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why, explain that before. Cheating is a

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<v Speaker 1>very deceitful thing because we made a commitment and a

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<v Speaker 1>promise to each other. Cheating to me is a very

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<v Speaker 1>bottom tier thing. Okay, you're lying, You're you had to

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<v Speaker 1>go out of your way to fucking lie to me

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to tell me you fell asleep

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<v Speaker 1>to do all this other ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you really it's the lying then, not the cheating

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<v Speaker 2>that is the problem of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheating requires a lie, Cheating requires deception.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you were in France, they kiss this French guy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only not cheating because you told your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you tell them before or after? Well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about these specific rules. I'm just saying in non monogamy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>these things can happen right or whatever relationship you have,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever those rules are, I'm just saying, specific to cheating,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how that's a moral that's lying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a complete turn off because.

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<v Speaker 3>Even a deeper level, if we don't, if we're not,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're not going to go to black and white,

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<v Speaker 3>like what what in your in your inside could be fulfilled?

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<v Speaker 3>But just the presence of a foreign guy in a

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<v Speaker 3>foreign place, that simple, simple of an occurrence could lead

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<v Speaker 3>to something as passionate, as spiritual as just swapping a

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<v Speaker 3>flesh in any capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't think that sex is always spiritual with

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<v Speaker 4>other people.

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<v Speaker 1>It is my.

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<v Speaker 2>Part I can't talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have sex. I've had sex with women and

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<v Speaker 1>men that I don't really care about. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember the name I made great chemistry. I did that, However,

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>It, Okay, I haven't always been like that. I always been.

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I the person that isn't healed, isn't forward,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a good woman? If I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well no, see this is not judge. Mathis over here, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So don't let my like retort of you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>things that you say be just like the authority, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I just mean, like I only believe and that that's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of love that in composes everything that I desire

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<v Speaker 3>at that present time. And I feel so fulfilled, so intrigued,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, disinterested in everybody else that I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>like locked in this human And it's not predicated. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not predicated on beauty, it's not predicated on sexual chemistry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just my attachment. It's like my feeling that this

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<v Speaker 3>person just their presence as value to my life and

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<v Speaker 3>when I get when I get in. And now, some

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<v Speaker 3>of these bubbles with women last six weeks, some of

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<v Speaker 3>them last six months. I had won that last like

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<v Speaker 3>three and a half years. But I have never been

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<v Speaker 3>a cheater because I only I only met with women

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<v Speaker 3>and only agreed to monogamy in my mind because I

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<v Speaker 3>was fulfilled and I didn't want nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to ask you that question though, because

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<v Speaker 2>you said some can last six days, six weeks, three years, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But so are you saying that once you are no

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<v Speaker 2>longer fulfilled, that relationship is out so that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>cheat everybody, thinking that's what I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel me so that next.

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<v Speaker 3>Bitch, you know, I take my shoes off so I

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<v Speaker 3>can be comfortable enough to be vulnerable. Okay, I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>grounded myself.

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<v Speaker 1>No, for real, after the six months or even three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half yearn after the three that's a good commitment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when six months, I feel like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of our average kind of dating. Three and a half years,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point is it something else, someone else, or

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<v Speaker 1>something starts lacking that you didn't see before? Because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't want to get on a high

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<v Speaker 1>horse and say I made this huge commitment to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm able to change my.

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<v Speaker 3>Mind, I think. For I think having emotional intelligence right

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<v Speaker 3>lets me know when the woman that I'm dealing with personally,

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<v Speaker 3>don't like me no more. You know what when they

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<v Speaker 3>start sucking a teeth, start complaining, Like when I meet

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, I'm probably so mesmerized by her visually that

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<v Speaker 3>I come up and make some ridiculous sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, my first pickup line was cutting to

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<v Speaker 3>the chase. It's like, how, my name is Mike, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one years old, I don't have no kids, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>an author, I'm a publisher. Can I take you to dinner?

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<v Speaker 3>And then sometimes I'd be like I got a good

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<v Speaker 3>credit score and no felonies, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Etc.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and then it'd be like yes, kind of get

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<v Speaker 3>to the yes, and then from that day every day

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<v Speaker 3>after that, I'm on you, and it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I was love bombing. My therapist would say

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<v Speaker 3>I was love bombing before love bombing existed. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>only a bomb if it actually explodes and if people die.

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<v Speaker 3>If not, I'm just a hundred from the start, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one hundred until a moment, right. I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>to be disappointed. I tell people when I meet them,

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<v Speaker 3>I say I don't. I have problems of forgiveness that

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<v Speaker 3>are deeper than this. You like, I just met you,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've already struggled with forgiveness and I'm working on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So please don't put me in a position where I

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<v Speaker 3>might have to forgive you, because I'm not sure regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of how much fun we have, if when that moment comes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you start to switch up, you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no no. I mean, things will go through,

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<v Speaker 3>something happened, well, things go good, and sometimes it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's fun, it's new, it's fresh, it's clean,

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<v Speaker 3>and then after a while, like you know how when

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<v Speaker 3>you live with a person, it's like, damn, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the nigga I used to just date, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the wax wears off of people, right, myself included.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's with everyone. I think the problem with that

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<v Speaker 2>too is something you just said is I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to be disappointed by people and.

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<v Speaker 3>Close to me, right, but when the ways just messed

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<v Speaker 3>up my order, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>But regardless, I think that that's what a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us do in dating or in finding partnership. We literally

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<v Speaker 2>go into something with these high level of expectations of

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<v Speaker 2>a person and in partnership and and what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>We have all these things and we want them, we

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<v Speaker 2>want all the boxes ticks off, However, wempletely remove the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that this person is human. Nigga's gonna fuck up,

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<v Speaker 2>people are gonna suck up. Not everyone's gonna be I also.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, just to be a little hotepy, but I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think forgiveness is like the foundation anal of being able

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<v Speaker 1>to be loyal. So you're saying, like, don't put me

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<v Speaker 1>in a position to like.

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<v Speaker 3>Now when I say I have to forgive you, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not because when you actually just text you and you

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<v Speaker 3>probably had a conversation on a Wednesday while you were

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<v Speaker 3>at the hairdresser, right when I say forgive me, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you're doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing though, and I think you see

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<v Speaker 1>this is how much monogamy. Wait, the fact that that

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<v Speaker 1>came out of your mouth for me, I don't even think.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe because that's not the foundation of the loyalty

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<v Speaker 1>in my relationship. Sure, my shit is like, were you

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<v Speaker 1>not showing up for me? Were you not keeping me focused?

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<v Speaker 1>I've too seen your parents. Were you not keeping up

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<v Speaker 1>with my mama, making sure we're good our family, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what was boyfriend here? You got to guess?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll say this. My boyfriend has only had

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<v Speaker 1>one girlfriend before me, right, so he really doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>look at it like I've had a bunch of boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to say that if the wind blows anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>you're her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I realize. Literally, I used to say, boyfriend is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who three months, let's be exclusive, your my boyfriend. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in a relationship. It was like, no, we basically exclusive, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just only date each other seriously to see if

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. And now I'm starting to see that

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend can be deeper than that. And while you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>do we need a pit stop before marriage? Yeah? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you good at this? Right now? Are you good at

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<v Speaker 1>being my boyfriend? Now? Before I make a lie?

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<v Speaker 3>Since when did meet and other humans become a talent show?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? What do you mean I mean when I said exclusive?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Are you good at this? He wants to when

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<v Speaker 2>did dating?

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<v Speaker 3>I think as a man, I think as another human

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<v Speaker 3>that encounters you. I'm just supposed to witness your movie.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel me? I think when we interact with each other,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like flashes of light that that hit each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not. I'm not supposed to come here ready

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<v Speaker 3>to serve or audition in all of my tricks. You're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to watch me and my manhood.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking, you do men not expect women

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<v Speaker 2>to do exactly that, though, But I mean I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I was before I walked in this door. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm showing up too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I don't mean exchanging service. What I mean

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<v Speaker 3>is like, I don't think I need to demonstrate my

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<v Speaker 3>capabilities to you directly for you to realize if I

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<v Speaker 3>have them or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, Yes, yes, yes you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not about that you're going to be a good father, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to be a good partner or yeah No, No, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to see it like you though.

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<v Speaker 3>You like the car that I have, the house that

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<v Speaker 3>I have, the job that I have, the relationships with

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<v Speaker 3>my family and my friends in my community that I

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<v Speaker 3>already have could be No, I mean, I just mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like all of these things matter, right, Okay? Where is

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<v Speaker 3>my box spring in relation to my bed? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>on the floor? Does it have like a frame around it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have hands hooels and disimpacting? Do I have bleach.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>There are other things to consider.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's a myriad of things to consider. But how

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<v Speaker 3>the way those things do I have to demonstrate? No,

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<v Speaker 3>do I have to demonstrate to your benefit for you

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<v Speaker 3>to prove that I have those capabilities to me?

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<v Speaker 2>To me, here's the thing. The way you show up

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<v Speaker 2>with your family is one way. The way you show

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<v Speaker 2>up at work is another. The way you maintain your

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<v Speaker 2>household is another. However, the way that men show up

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<v Speaker 2>in relationships and how they treat a woman is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be different than how they show up with their

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<v Speaker 2>homeboys and every which way in their lives. A talent show,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what, it was testing me too.

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<v Speaker 3>So you swallowing before the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm swallowing. I'm looking ass, I'm sucking balls I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing that's crazy. But let me just say this too.

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<v Speaker 2>When you mentioned like a test before marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've heard one other person to say this besides him,

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>but I was kind of feeling like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, and women, we all go through this.

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Are we together not together yet? And do he need

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<v Speaker 1>to ask me or whatever? Right? And after commitment he said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you thinks to me, like I really needed to

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<v Speaker 1>see all these emotions out of you anger, upset, not

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just you angry? Are anger at me? Yeah? Well, who

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the fuck are you when you're mad? When you're happy, like.

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 2>When you're drunk?

0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you can figure that out that quick.

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You really got to see phases. I agree, Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have to own you during these phases? Or

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.399
<v Speaker 3>can I just witness you wow in these moments? Like

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<v Speaker 3>why does there like a lot of people say when

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<v Speaker 3>I be like Mike, I mean they be like Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>how can I know if he's a husband material if

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<v Speaker 3>he's not my boyfriend? I just mean, like your ownership

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<v Speaker 3>to each other in terms of like your ability to

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 3>freely like interact with other humors. I feel like a

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.199
<v Speaker 3>lot of people are gonna be like you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>their late thirties early forties, and then to start adding

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<v Speaker 3>up their boyfriends now hopefully it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is they had once.

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, Okay, so not for some people.

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Some people they get to this point right. And I

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<v Speaker 3>started to notice it, Like when I was in my

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<v Speaker 3>mid thirties and I was dating women who were also

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<v Speaker 3>in their mid thirties, but their intentions kind of changed.

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 3>It's like, Mike, I want you to come in and

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I want you to prove to me that your husband

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<v Speaker 3>material because I'm thirty six. I'm thirty seven, I got

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 3>great hair on my kuchi, and I'm ready to settle down.

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 3>My periods ain't coming like how they're supposed to.

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 2>My mom is on.

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<v Speaker 3>Some shit, like cause she's seventy and she don't know

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 3>if she gonna see grandkids. So no, I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to go to turks with you. I'm trying to sit

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<v Speaker 3>down and do like couples counseling. I'm like, I just

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<v Speaker 3>met you four months ago. I don't even know what

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 3>you like in the wintertime because we only you know

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Get that out. So to your point, you just said

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<v Speaker 1>something about why can't we mingle a date with other

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>people or whatever it's like, But then to put the

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<v Speaker 1>height of as if that was very casual, to put

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the height of loyalty. Then when you're in a committed relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>like no, I think mingling and doing all that stuff

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>means you're not focusing and pouring into me, because at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, most we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever been to college. Excuse me, have you ever been

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<v Speaker 3>to college?

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever taken more than one semester at a

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<v Speaker 3>time because you have to come home and study math

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.959
<v Speaker 3>and religion and social studies and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I class.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, but what I'm saying is I think the

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<v Speaker 3>human brain is capable of focusing on two things. You

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<v Speaker 3>have a two bubble gum and walk at the same time,

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 3>all of these, all of these attributes and things. A

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of times we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're focusing on two things at the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, how purposeful can you be?

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>How intentional are you being? If you're focusing on those

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<v Speaker 1>things at the same time. I'm not looking at Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm talking, so if I took my eyes off

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>of you, that would mean I'm not that interested or

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<v Speaker 1>serious about a conversation. I'm very intentional when I do things.

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 1>I pour into people when I'm talking to them, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to them. If my attention diverts, I'm out of it.

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 3>So it's not like both of these girls are sitting

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<v Speaker 3>on my couch at the same time. All I mean

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 3>to say is like, there there are the same way

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 3>a woman can be a mother, a student and an

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 3>employee in a day. Is the same way that I

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 3>could go to lunch with you and have a forty

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 3>five minute phone call with Holo.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, I want to get to the Manila ship.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what this sounds like, Mike, You might

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 2>not be as monogamous as you motherfucking thing because you

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 2>are here one.

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Juggle different you selling is given it. You don't want

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>to juggle b I already let me know that you

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<v Speaker 1>had a little home that you is alone after.

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 3>That hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get into our vanilla, share our vanilliha

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It sex in the news, and we talked about cohabitating,

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 2>living with other people just a little bit. And there

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>is a woman on a Reddit thread who is letting

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<v Speaker 2>everyone know that she is divorcing her husband because he

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>screws jar lids on two tights. Now, I want to

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 2>get into this just a little bit because within the

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 2>reddit thread people felt as though he was doing it

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 2>in ten and that's the reason why she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>divorce him. But also she feels like, am I the

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>asshole because I'm allowing this little minute thing to make

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>me want to divorce my husband. So sometimes I literally

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 2>feel insane for being so upset over jarred Lin's It's

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>been a recurring cycle over the past five years, and

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just the thing that would escalate until a major

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>mountdown and freak out, screaming frustration, seemingly craze what happened

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 2>just because I couldn't open a lid. Then it would

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 2>get a little better for a while, then it would

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 2>slowly become an issue again, just getting worse and worse

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>until I reached the breaking point, she said five.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Years, because you know, when that little shit, I feel like.

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>It's something else. I feel like it gotta be something else.

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the dick she's getting on this side

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>is something else. Do you think that's what it is?

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to ask that in terms of being

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 2>someone for six weeks, six months, three years, or in

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>any of your past relationships, has there, at any point

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>over time or even in the beginning, been something so

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>minute about her and that you're like, I can't be

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>with this person because they do this little thing and

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>it bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>So fucking much.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not gonna lie I started dating a guy

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 2>or not dating y'all know, I just be fucking these thinkers.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 2>But one guy would come over. What I mean, I

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>dated the shut up. Anyways, there was one guy that

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<v Speaker 2>would come over and never put the fucking seat down.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I hate that bitch, I literally, and then I

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 2>had to start talking to him like he was my child.

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 2>First off, this is my house. This is the house

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 2>of a woman. You going to use the bathroom and

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 2>leaving the toilet seat up. One time after we got

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 2>done fucking went to the bathroom and just went to

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>sit down on my normal fucking seat and almost fell

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 2>into it. That was the last straw because he didn't

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 2>put the fucking seat down. Now, the dick was good,

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 2>but literally, him not putting the seat down in my

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>apartment was like, I ain't fucking with this, Niga nomore, because.

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 4>I already told I really feel like that's no home training.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that what it is?

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Cause that's how the man be chivalrous and lift the

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<v Speaker 1>seat up and keep it.

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Up and keep it up right, Like now I'm judging here.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you don't do that. I feel like

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you look like a man that pussed

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to see you put the seat down after you piss right,

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about it, you don't you don't seem like

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy that would leave it up in a woman's house.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>You just don't.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't really go over women's houses, Okay, Okay. Two

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 3>thousand and nine, I woke up. I went to a

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 3>women's house. I woke up and one of my good

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>friends was at the foot of the bed. I did

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 3>not know it was his baby mom. And I've never

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 3>been back to that.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't a good friend. If you ain't know whose baby

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>mama was.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Well no, I mean, but it was a different sort

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 3>of thing, like I don't be checking for you who

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 3>your baby mom is, you know, and niggas hiby baby

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 3>mom talk about that and I am saying and I'm not.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I spent like a hundred days he ever done,

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 3>no story, had the son, he had his son with.

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 3>It was really bad. I seen her in the club.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I ain't see her in like four or five years, right,

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, damn, Like I don't normally go home,

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 3>but I'll go home with you because I've been trying

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 3>to get at you for years now.

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So we go home and how you been trying to

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>get her for years?

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, like it's the line outside.

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 3>So I get to you when I get to you.

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 3>But I finally got to her, and then I was like,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm.

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Is this l A.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>No, this is Philly?

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>This is that is Wait?

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Did this happen in l A?

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:15.239
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>This was this was Philly?

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 2>And wait he just said, hey, Mike, like, what was

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>the interaction.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 3>With damn bro?

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>For real?

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy?

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Was it because she got some dick last night? Or

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 4>was it because it was yours?

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>This is mix?

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 3>And then the kid was there.

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>The kid was there, like, wait, the kid and the

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>kid was with the baby daddy.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 3>The kid was with the baby daddy. She was so

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 3>fried that she didn't even remember that young boy was

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 3>coming home the next day or that her baby father

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 3>even had keys. She was just so oh my god,

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 3>my this is and she actually it did happen to la.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna put that on Philly.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You saying this? Tell me, I don't remember what show

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>he was watching another night? Was some crazy baby mama

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>should have it? And I looked at this nigga, you

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>would get mad about something my motherfucker can't do. I'm

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at him, Yeah, putting the seat shoes. Would motherfucking

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>leave me with a baby, bitch, he was like God,

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I never gonna have this shit happened

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to me. Hell no, only one break. I'm having this medio.

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something, baby mama, baby daddy drama.

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I wish it on nobody.

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Yo. This is my last girlfriend September last year. I

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 3>was in love. She was beautiful. I feel like the

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 3>baby father just wasn't going for it. He was one

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 3>of them. Over my dead body. Niggas.

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh what's your sign?

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Dollars?

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna do that.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>That's why said dollar sign.

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>If I if my emotions are striking her, you're if

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you not a pcey email nigga?

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>What are you you want to show? I'm gonna show

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 3>you my coach star for ten dollars.

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't go to tuck about the other ones. What's

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 4>the main? What's your birthday?

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna scorpio?

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh your water signed? Okay water?

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Now that's what we're doing. I don't know with at me.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Scorpios are from what I've heard. Obviously we all know

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>their amazing lovers. They also are very thank you. They

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, well, they could be considered deceitful or

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>guarded because they they don't really show.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Who they are, that's given gem.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>But the water means they pour out so many.

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a river, you know what. I Am not playing

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 2>they go way used to. So I said the toilet

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<v Speaker 2>seate real quick. Is there anything that both of you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's so small that you wouldn't continue dating

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>somebody if they did?

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I was going to agree with you that one. What's

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>yours with women? No, I think it's hygiene, hygiene that

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not small.

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>That is actually hygiene, that is a part of hygiene.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I'd be like, oh de with it. Like I

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of my early loves were like super

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>super neat, you know, like like they really loved themselves

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>and they was when they was young girls.

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>So now it's like, damn, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>You think lack of hygiene is a lack of a

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>woman's security or love of herself? Yeah, or just or

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 2>just maybe not?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think I think people that love themselves with

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 4>it depends.

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 3>On the age an age, the age like you know,

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 3>like it's a lot of young girls that don't be showered.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Like you can see him at a day party, then

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 3>you can see him at the bar around half I

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 3>mean you can't.

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm joking for party, where are we going?

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I ain't a little function out like you got. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. I can't see you at two

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 3>pm at the brunch at the same leg as the

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 3>two am Hookah Johnny, and you will twelve hours since.

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<v Speaker 2>First off, I live in New York. Ain't nobody commuting

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>from the boroughs back home back to the borough No,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I go Philly.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this when it comes to cleanliness and like

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing if someone's showered, if they're kept up. I've spent

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>time with friends, man, with anybody, and I've kind of

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>noticed the showering habits and I don't want to refresh. Okay,

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that. To me, summertime, outdoor, all day shit,

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>that don't count. But I do think that when you

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>don't make it a happen. I even notice teeth brushing

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>with men or people that are visiting. But I offer

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you a toothbrush and you ain't using it just because

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you stay the night, even homegirls on the couch, I'm like, girl,

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that's right there, you ain't and I have the good

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>ship the Marvin's toothpaste.

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I don't want to go deep dive on shower, right,

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 3>it's really about the whole aesthetic. It's like, how do

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 3>you lotion regularly? Like what's your morning routine? Does it

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 3>involve a toothbrush and mouthwash? Damn, you got the kills

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 3>for the face. Like that's excellent.

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>You know who don't be showering that much? I believe

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>it the white one of ours?

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Who's one of ours? The waste speed girls don't do that.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Don't talk about the wastebeed girls do.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Not do that. I don't know.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Youboty, get on the instant where everybody know.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>That's my type of nigga.

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 4>And I like them girls, the waste speed guys.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like the girls and the guys going in

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the hind that they're kind of saying, right, the waste

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>speed girls. I don't know if it's because everybody using

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>deodamant that isn't necessarily store bought, give it up, get

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the cancer them girl. I go to a little black part.

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. The essentials are not ascension,

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>those oils ain't doing it, and some of them been

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>a little funky. I think we need to go with

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the girl who's slabbing it off.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you also think maybe it's they're hairy and like

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>they don't shave in the same places like the under

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>arms be under They may.

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Be too listen to this podcast, but one of you

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 1>bit just in here. No, no, no, because we've had

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>some people be like, oh, like you guys talk about

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>girl shall put that ship on La Merk Park in

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>l a ship bro just buy the shade, butter, don't

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>buy the deodor. And he's a liar.

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Please get the aluminum.

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>How do you want to live with you? Stop it?

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>No bullshit, bullshit.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 2>The hotel niggas wiping them bitches.

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Up and they like it. I don't lie.

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 2>They aren't funky. It's given a flight.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>The cleanest w HOTEP that I know personally, it's probably Wolf.

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Wolf works at w TFBDI Students New York and Mandy

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and I work with him too. I ain't never smelled him. However,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the way he be talking seems like he don't seem.

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Like he don't watch that PC.

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't he seem like one of them? He do? You know?

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 3>If my sister called me and told me that her

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 3>husband still puts the jars on tight after five years,

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 3>I would tell her to leave this nigga. Really sorry

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 3>we had to circle back. Well, no, I mean I

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 3>just think. I just think that, like I'm a principal

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 3>sort of guy, Like the action could be like, you know,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Sharlotte was fucked, but it's the principle behind the action

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 3>that carries up, you know, so for five years.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, especially she's expressed it.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 3>If I've expressed it. It's your inability to change, you know,

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 3>or to listen.

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:00.879
<v Speaker 2>So I was just I was, well, I.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Mean people like I hate the word listen because listen

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.760
<v Speaker 3>only involves your ear drums then, and you can't turn

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 3>off your sound, Like I hate when women when you

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 3>argue with a woman and she'd be like did you

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 3>hear me? Like you're not even listening to me? Like

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I wish there was a button guy could create that

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I could just mute circle.

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>But then there's comprehension. I was just walking the park

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 2>with my homegirl, and there's conversations right now where we

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>think a proposal is coming. So we're literally talking about

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>what the ringo look like.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>She don't want nothing gaudy, she said, all diamonds are

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>blood diamonds, so she don't want a real like nothing like,

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>no real diamond.

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, but this she won't have been made by

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a ten year old kid. Give me, she said, literally?

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Literally did?

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>She said?

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't wear silver, saw, I want a gold band,

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 2>something with gold. She said, if he proposes, If he

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 2>proposes and it's not a gold band and it's a

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>real diamond, I know that he's doing this for him

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and not for me, and that can't be my husband.

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, oh, I guess that's the

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>way to start.

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>But no disrespect to your homegirl. Yeah, And I have

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of thoughts about this, Okay, I am so

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>tired of the stipulations that women put on men with tiny,

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>minute things. I'm gonna tell you why. First of all,

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to engagement rings. Right, I don't know

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>if she verbade him said the words I want gold.

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>All I wear is gold.

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>She said she didn't want white gold. She knows that

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:31.919
<v Speaker 2>white gold looks silver.

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Right. If a man knows I wear gold, My man

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>knows I wear gold, but happened to get me a

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>silver ring, right, just for context. Traditionally speaking, most wedding

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>bands are white gold or silver. Yes, that man is

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>probably in the store super excited talking to the clerk,

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>figuring out what would work like. No, not the person

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>for you. You know what, this person made a choice

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>to do this. You know what changeable. Hold on, bitch,

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm triggered. You know what's pissed me off? On flowers? No,

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not even flowers clothes.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 2>The birthday. The birthday fucking party. When I said I

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 2>did not want a birthday party, I said I wanted

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 2>to go to a spot, I did not want friends around.

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I did not want a group of people around. And

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>what did he do? Throw me a goddamn surprise party

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>with all my friends. And literally I was pissed because

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I literally the one thing I said I didn't want

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>you went and did, and he made it about well,

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I've never done this for someone. He made it about him,

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the effort that he put into it, the people he

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 2>had to reach out to, and it was just like,

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 2>fuck me. But that was literally a part of what

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I was saying, like to me in a relationship.

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 1>This is really asshole though.

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.919
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, but so is somebody who goes

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 3>in and does is not even wise enough to know

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 3>my shorty like goal. So I'm gonna get her the

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 3>gold situation, get me what I want? Like this, this

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 3>whole ceremony of courting to ring to wedding is all

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 3>about her movie. This is her movie, and I don't

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 3>care if I don't care if the only thing that

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 3>she picked out about this thing was the color cut

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 3>and clarity of her ring.

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Wait you should get that, you guys said, all.

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>She does is wear a goal. She never verbade them,

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>said she wanted to. No, no, no.

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.760
<v Speaker 2>This was a conversation that they've already had, so literally

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 2>we were having the conversation and she was like, bro,

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Like a part of me is like if my ring

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 2>is not gold. After we've had this conversation, I know

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the ring is for you and it's not for me.

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>You're not being considerate of what I want. You're not

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>listening to the things I want, And are those characteristics

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 2>that I want in a party moving forward? Like that's

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 2>the thing we talked about the as small as just

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>screwing the jars on. But to me, in a relationship,

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I would love to know that my partner is considerate

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of the things that would make me upset that I

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 2>don't like that I like that would make me happy

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 2>and knowing that those were things in my last relationship

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 2>that almost seemed intentional. I don't want anyone.

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be in a.

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Relationship with anyone who I feel like, intentionally now is

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>playing in my face or wants to hurt me. Those flowers,

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the birthday party, A lot of things I felt like

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 2>were intentional. I don't want to tell I don't want you.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't want you. Gesture it's hard to

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.919
<v Speaker 1>go from Here's the thing with tightening a lid, right,

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's something that annoys somebody. But nice gestures

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>as parties, flowers, rings, those are difficult.

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 4>It's hard to talk about your ex because he's.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 2>So trash, all these niggas is no no, no, really

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 2>no he is he is, and his fake cancer. But

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 2>oh we're gonna get into it because I just do

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 2>deep for a horrible decision.

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 3>I want.

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you thought about you last night

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>because this girl was in tears crying about how a

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>man lied to her about a sickness, and I was

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was listening to It's awful, and I

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't want to bring up another person

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>right now, while his whole crime. But like these niggas.

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>These niggas is to say that, to say, when nice

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>gestures are done and maybe someone didn't do it to

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>your liking, there's this thing of like, damn, well, what

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>can I do to make you happy? You know what

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like the other person can feel like fuck,

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>will I never match up more? It could seem so

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 1>minute and selfish. So that's why I kind of bring

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 1>up that other point.

0:40:57.800 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I ain't never used the word my

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 2>new as much as we just did in the last

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes. I don't even use that in my regular thing,

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like my regular cab Blarry minute. Anyway, before we get

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 2>into a horrible decision because I ran into my ex

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 2>and I want to talk about soul ties and soulmates

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 2>and negative energy. I would love for you to give

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>a sex tip. This is our horror derve. Do you

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>have a sex tip that you can give to our audience?

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Do I have a sex tip?

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Two in the pink, all right, I'm not like two

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.280
<v Speaker 2>two in the pink, one in the stink. Oh okay,

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 2>you've never heard them? Yeah, yeah, But I just don't

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>know how you would do it. It's like this actually

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>is thumb normally, Wait, that's what is it like? Right, Well,

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I could never do that because both my thumbs be long,

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 2>so I don't.

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I gotta shot my thumb in the butt

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>because it just feels like just enough GIRs.

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's crazy. I never put a thumb in

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the butt. I know, like future said, I'm gonna put

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 2>my thumb and uh, but I don't even think I've

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 2>had a thumb in my butt. If you been niggas

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 2>over the thought I had it. So niggas put thumbs

0:41:58.880 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>in the bus, but I don't be putting.

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 4>They put them on the bus because it's easy with

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 4>the grip.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh and I don't be gripping. Okay, I don't be

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 2>gripping niggas. I put these in the butt. Like even

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>it really actually starts with the middle finger. I do

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 2>middle finger in the butt, and then when it's all consensual,

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>it is all consensual. But because oftentimes in the air,

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 2>their legs are in the air, I'm right here, so

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 2>legs are in the air, my head is on their dick,

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm like probably going down below. This is

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the longest finger and so to me, that's the one

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 2>that the middle finger goes in first, and then I

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>get that.

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Hold on.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm not lying.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, I'm telling you, I just hold on. No, no, no, both,

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But I.

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Gotta make it way if we ain't gotten a love nearby.

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 2>So I I wait it up. I waited up, make

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 2>sure that the buddle hole opening, get it in, and

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 2>then I will probably really bring it back out and

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 2>spit on both fingers.

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:57.839
<v Speaker 1>And they try to fit two figures in there.

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you know do too. Anyway, let's get into

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the horrible decision because I want to share this story

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>with y'all because the time came. Uh Vinnie asked you.

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>About it when we were in France, and I.

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, demons exists with these niggas. So went to the

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 2>layout when I got back from Okac, and as y'all know,

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 2>it has been now May third, twenty twenty three is

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 2>when I broke up with this nigga. So it has

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>been now a year and two months. You know why

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I know because we went on Breakfast Club two days later.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the only reason why I know, and I talked

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 2>about that nigga, and when he wrote that email month,

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:46.800
<v Speaker 2>he was like, you can even go on the breakfast

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 2>club and not talk about me cause you are you

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 2>became color.

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe if your goofy ass wasn't out hope.

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>The show.

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I would never bring anything.

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm not gonna lie to you, Andy. I love

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to sit now right.

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I would do a chance, no receipt and I got

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 2>don't do that, oh bitch, and do I thought?

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But I like you hold on.

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm at the layout and every for the listeners,

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>new or old, y'all know, this is my first real relationships.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 2>So we were together for three years and when we

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 2>broke up. Have not seen him since, have not run

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 2>into him, have not been in the same space as him,

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>thank god, until the layout. So I'm at the layout.

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Mind you, he has not been there the last two

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>years I've gone. So this is not a place at all.

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.439
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm going to see him. So I'm with

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.280
<v Speaker 2>my friends, and because I refuse to use a porter potty,

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna go to this little wine bar

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>to use their bathroom and get me another beer and

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna walk back. So we're walking down the hill

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.959
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to walk around to leave the park.

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 2>My heart is beating now even just sharing it. And

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to my homegirl, and I look up and

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I min y'all, I don't even know how to gasp

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>in real life, but I gassed so loud and I stopped,

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm literally like this, like whole body freeze PTSD

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>like a motherfucking hit me. So I see him and

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm with my best friend Crystal, and I go like

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>this and I freeze. Once I go, I literally feel

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 2>every vein every muscle in my body, like literally it

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 2>felt like electric shocks. I felt it. Look look at

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>me shaking. It reached each fingertip, look each fingertip. I

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 2>felt to go all the way down my legs into

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 2>each toes. And I stood there and I like quickly

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 2>turn around. Immediately I have a fucking panic attack. My

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>eyes start watering and I'm like hyperventilating, and I'm like,

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, that's him.

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Like even sharing this story right now, the way that

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>my body felt, a human being has never made me

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>feel this way in my life. This is just off

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 2>the side of him a year later. Mind you y'all know,

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even be around niggas last year for a long

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 2>part without being triggered, without crying.

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Without being reminded of him. And so I saw him and.

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I go like, we gotta go, we gotta go, we

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 2>gotta go. So I called Antonet and I'm like, bitch,

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I just saw this nigga. She's like, you can go

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 2>if you want. Do you want me to come get you.

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, there, no, he did. It was all psychological.

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 2>He's never he's never laid his hands on me. He cheated,

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 2>but I found out the cheating after the fact, and

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 2>but psychologically it was. We broke up thirteen times, and

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>I ended up looking into narcissism. But literally, anytime I

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 2>had something good happening, he broke up. Anytime I questioned

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>him about anything, he broke up with me to the

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>point where I stopped questioning because I just wanted us

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 2>to be on the high for as long as possible.

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope you get the cans.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Listen me too, bitch. I ain't even gonna hold you

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 2>so so listen.

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, we gotta, like, let me tell you something.

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 3>Listen.

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Why did we euthanize dogs and shit, Oh, bitch, I

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 2>will not even euthanized. You know, the nigga eats neutered,

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 2>but neoter to where you topped the and the dick.

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to walk around like Kendall.

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Can I ask you a question? And this has maybe

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 3>not so much for you, so don't. Okay, take it

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 3>in a personal way, but how how much bill are

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 3>we going to keep giving co stars in these sad movies?

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, I don't I don't want the bell. I'm

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Wait, what you're saying, Mandy needs to say no, no, no no.

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And I've taken responsibility. And what I'm saying is seeing

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 2>this man after this long and what yes, mind you

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I've I've went through therapy. I'm very aware that I

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 2>chose to go back all those times. I chose to

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 2>keep wanting to see, which is also weird because from

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 2>a humane point, right, if you go back to taking

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 2>us out of relationships, we're also taught to see the

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 2>good in someone. We're taught to forgive, We're taught to

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>believe that someone can be a better virgial thing.

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Right. I won't say that he is. One of my

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>good friends is single right now and he has been

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in dumping girls that want more with him. I do

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it all now. I said this to me, man, and

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>my man was like, but why doesn't he just like

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 1>reiterated to them like I don't understand, Like now he

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 1>got no holes because he keeps letting them go. I

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>was like, Yo, this is the sign to me of

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>a really good person. You and we me and him

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>had a serious talk about it, me in my homework right,

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, Yo, I can't take the fucking

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>disappointment with these girls anymore. They're let down.

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 2>After I tell them for the third fucking time.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>But let me tell you something. If he wasn't shit,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you start to mold this person. You know they need you,

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know they don't want to let you go. That

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>is a bad person.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 3>But guess who gives thirteen chances and guess who gets block? No?

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 1>No, no, So what he knows the thing though, when

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>someone I'm not trying to call you week, just let

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>me get the oh. When someone is in the dumps

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>of love, right, they let you go, they're like fuck,

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they feel good for a second and then you come

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.479
<v Speaker 1>back and you're manipulate. I'm gonna do this right, baby,

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>this and that you know I'm already weak for this

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>person in this moment.

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's the Stockholm not only no one can make

0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>you feel better than you.

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just supposed to go to another nigga, you're gonna

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>think about you, go to her friends, go on vacation. No,

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>there's only one thing that pacifies the problem.

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 2>It's like drugs, but not only the Stockholm syndrome of that.

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I really love about it. Hold on, but I also

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:13.640
<v Speaker 1>very intentional when they're no, they're hurting.

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not only that, it's also for a lot of us.

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And this is men, men and women. We are also

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 2>taught that marriage, as well as relationships, take work. They're

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 2>not easy. Everything's not going to be perfect. If it's

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 2>a love worth having, you have to fight for it.

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 2>So all of these ideas, with this being my first relationship,

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>a part of me and seeing a lot of my

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 2>friends and other relationships and put up with bullshit, a

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 2>part of me was like, okay, I'm easily. As soon

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:43.959
<v Speaker 2>as the nigga pissed me off, I'm out that bitch

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 2>on to the next one. So a part of me

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, I'm in a real relationship.

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Let me fight for this, let me show him I

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>do love him, let me let me take him back

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and forgive him and let, you know, show him that

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I can be a better partner. And maybe he's trying

0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to come back and show that he could be a

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 2>better partner. That's a unfortunately, this fucked up thing. There's

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 2>a song and y'all know it, The ship that you

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 2>come out to, Nigga, the song by Summer Walker.

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>It's always like, uh.

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.720
<v Speaker 2>The hurt song, you know, the one by Summer Walker, and.

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh you come out to that?

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>And Summer Walker also singing the most depressing songs of

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>all time and it's literally your cry performing performs picnic, Yes,

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and that makes me cry.

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it makes me cry too. That's why I come

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 3>out to it.

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people it brings that emotional worse.

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 3>That's why it's so beautiful.

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Why do you want to come out to that?

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Because people are emotionless? Thank God for things that actually

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 3>make people feel something, Okay, And this fucking, this numb, ignorant,

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 3>filthy world.

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>So bessy about that song. I was watching Summer Walker

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.439
<v Speaker 1>like performing on YouTube or something, and all I could

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>think is, I don't really like all the BBL stuff

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>on her. I just think she's so beautiful that I

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of hate sometimes, like what culture has become like

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>listening to music like this bitch looks like a fashion

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>over queen. What the fuck is gon be weird?

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>You could get all the ship done in your body

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 2>and these niggas still gonna act up.

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Bro, don't meddle perfection, all of it injection and it

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter they don't.

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think like I hate that if

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 3>something goes like anything, any any beauty standard that a

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 3>woman does in excess, don't don't put that back on

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 3>the bros. I think a lot for yourselves and for

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 3>other women, and nobody knows what it's going to do

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 3>to your body, Like everybody when they go to wherever

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 3>they go and they tell them what it's supposed to

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.439
<v Speaker 3>look like. Uh, you know, there's a lot of things

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:46.919
<v Speaker 3>that go wrong with making.

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Don't you do that today? All well, not all, but

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>most there's like a ig We talked about this a

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago. I think with Julie Ginger, do you

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>think there's like an internet standard of beauty how the

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 1>girl will look kind of like an ey?

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's all AI. Now all them bitches don't

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 2>be looking like that.

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think the point is to look like that

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 4>though filters to get the.

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I and then you see him in person and they look nuts.

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I really crazy.

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Shout out to Wai Speeds. Y'all be funny, not unless they.

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Be naturally beautiful. I want to ask. I want to

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 2>get back to this because after experiencing this, I realized that.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:26.399
<v Speaker 2>And I want to bring this up because I used

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to refer to him as so may. I at one

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 2>point did believe he was my soulmate and having that

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 2>that interaction with my body after just seeing him, made

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>me realize there's some level of soul ties. And I

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:43.760
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about a little bit of soul ties,

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 2>but also energy transference with relationships and casual sex, because

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 2>it's I'm only asking to fight against. I'm only asking

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 2>this too because we're in LA and I brought up

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, I went back into the roller dicks I got,

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I bought. I got a lot about niggas back on

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 2>my line, and so there's a nigga here that they

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 2>never leave. So I was really excited to see this

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 2>one guy here. And we've been back facetiming, back talking.

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.320
<v Speaker 2>You knew I was coming here, and he went ghosts

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.399
<v Speaker 2>the past couple of days before I got here, and

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 2>so he hit me back, and literally I was already

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:24.879
<v Speaker 2>cause I'm like, nigga, you know I'm coming. I need

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 2>to feel the excitement that I'm coming. And he let

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 2>me know, Sorry, I haven't slept. I've been on a

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>three day bench like drinking. And to me, that made

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 2>me feel like, nigga, you fighting something else. I don't

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 2>even want that shit inside of me whatever you're battling,

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 2>because no, I'm good. Even though I wanted to get

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 2>in his boot hole, I wasn't even gonna let me

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a three day bitch. Nigga, you have a job. I

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 2>need to know. No, bitch, it wasn't Friday to Sunday.

0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 2>To me, if anybody is like I haven't slept, I've

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.439
<v Speaker 2>been drunk and I've been binging for three days, that's

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:00.320
<v Speaker 2>not the type of person I want.

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 3>You never fucked the nigga into loom on Memorial Day weekend. No,

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:10.240
<v Speaker 3>on the fourth day my Miami Memorial Day weekend, fight weekend, catch.

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>A nigga on the Sunday went through something. The problem

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna.

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to transfer like energies with a nigga

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>that I think is battling his own demon.

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this, I got a nigga, who's

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:26.240
<v Speaker 1>there people that maybe aren't drinking or explicitly saying it, it's.

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Still battling, yeah, man, But I don't know about him.

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Let me not know about it, goddamn it.

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Because here's the thing. Sometimes when you're on that kind

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of shiit, what what what you know?

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people are too creative with

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 3>their storytelling, And the most dangerous part is most of

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the stories they tell are to themselves, right, And we've

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:51.239
<v Speaker 3>become so empowered and so free that we think that

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 3>we we can sell, like we can come up with

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 3>our own narrative for basically any sort of situation. Now,

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 3>the beauty in that is because you can prevent yourself

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:04.759
<v Speaker 3>from being hurt. But the delusion in it is I

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 3>could hear that same story as a third party, and

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 3>I can say, you know what, in order for me

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.880
<v Speaker 3>to save myself, I'm going to say that I was

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 3>probably upset, honestly that this guy kind of curved me

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.399
<v Speaker 3>and then wasn't prepared for me when I got here.

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 3>So his presentation to me makes me all of a

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 3>sudden go back into my rolodex of excuses and say,

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm so glad this shit didn't work

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 3>out because it's an energy you weren't really caring about.

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:37.840
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no no. He might have got that.

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I get that vendor, but you drink too. No no, no,

0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I do.

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 2>But what's crazy about you even saying that is in

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:47.720
<v Speaker 2>my dating currently and in how men have been showing

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 2>up for me recently. In dating, I'm very adamant with

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 2>only giving people the time of day that I feel

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like deserve it. So, yes, he went on a binger.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't like the three days or the fact that

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 2>he went and I feel like keep battling something cool. However,

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.320
<v Speaker 2>in the same breath, I'm also in a place where

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 2>you didn't respond for three days. You didn't roll out

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the red carpet that I'm coming. That's not the treatment

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 2>from anybody, casual sex or not that I'm seeking.

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I could.

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Say it's one of two things, But yeah, to me,

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I know what I want from a partner or a

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:21.880
<v Speaker 2>casual sex encounter or friends with benefits, but I don't.

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Really want that first.

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 3>You started this story off with the with the dick

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 3>roller decks. But it's like it's like it's like when

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.880
<v Speaker 3>you pulled this card out of the dick roller decks,

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:36.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, not the not the kinetic friendship, like right,

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:39.880
<v Speaker 3>not the spiritual bond, like you're only you're only flipping

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 3>this thing for like available dick. Yes, And then when

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 3>we pull the dick out right now, it's like I

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 3>want to dress this dick up and have it performed

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.359
<v Speaker 3>for me because I want you to be ready when

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:54.359
<v Speaker 3>I land showered with with all my favorite snacks by

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the bedside and fucking two gallons.

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Of loo I have for things you're making me think

0:56:59.320 --> 0:56:59.799
<v Speaker 1>of right now.

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 3>But that's the delusion.

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I won't I want one? Do you need? I want

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 1>to know when what was the text you sent into

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to bring something up. My man told me

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 1>about a girl that he fucks with this time of time.

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Whatever happens right like curly, like if he wants to

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 1>like fucking random is hit. I travel a lot, so

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>but this is something we discussed again. So he's like, yo,

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like this.

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Girl boyfriend, call him something else.

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to call him something else. That's the boyfriend.

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 1>So he says, this girl was like bugging on him

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:37.640
<v Speaker 1>about communication.

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I'm really seeing here looking at my phone,

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 4>like I.

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Told you I got to short you, Like I don't.

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't get back to you right now. He's like,

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy to me that I set this very

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.160
<v Speaker 1>friends with benefits. If I fuck you, I fuck you

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>relationship with this person. He's like, we're not dating. I've

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>never taken her out. It's just been sex. And she

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 1>was mad that I couldn't write her back quick enough.

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He said, I don't understand how the standard became communication

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>when I've just been fucking and not doing shit else.

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>He's like, this girl was really bugging on what she

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.919
<v Speaker 1>thinks she deserves for me, when in reality she never

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 1>put that I deserve X y Z even before sex.

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>So I want to do well to say people in

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>very casual sexual encounters do not think that they have

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to have this Like I'm in courtesy. What was courtesy.

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Can give you? But not.

0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>No, bro, like mind you.

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 2>We were face timing when I just had a layover

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta. Nigga called me three times back to back

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 2>face time and I had to check them the next morning, Like, bro,

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 2>unless you did, I said, you alive nigga, because don't

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 2>you ever call me three times back on respond to

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 2>oh no, it was like multiple texts, let me see,

0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 2>let me hold. But see, here's the thing, whether you

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 2>were casually fucking someone, whether your friends with benefits with

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 2>someone to me, and this is where let me grow

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 2>up from how I acted in my twenties to being

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 2>in my thirties. I would like common courtesy, human decency

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 2>from someone who I don't even have to reply because

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you my fucking pussy, my nigga respond to

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 2>a text message. So he went a few days. So

0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, you're doing this shit again. I'm gonna let

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 2>you be. He literally said, I was on a binge

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 2>this oh week, it was a weekend. This was a

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Monday response, so it was a weekend. Makes sense because

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 2>he has a job. Drunk for three days straight, no sleep.

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, you got it, get well soon. Then he said, morning,

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 2>what are your plans for BT weekend? I said, I'm

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:39.080
<v Speaker 2>off for you. You literally ain't been responsive and I'm

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 2>put for over a week. And he's like, okay, that's

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 2>your choice. Wish you nothing but the best, and he

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 2>got a thumbs up. That's it. And now I realized it.

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Was a what did you initially text that he didn't

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>response to.

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 2>No, But we were face timing. It wasn't a text.

0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 2>It was just like that I'm gonna be there, be

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 2>there next week this time, and he didn't answer.

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 2>He called me the last time he called me on

0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 2>face time, I didn't four o'clock in the morning.

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 1>In three days. What was this last communication? Hold on

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>made you so upset?

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Hold on? Well, the fact that we spent an hour

1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 2>on FaceTime making plans for this week that I'm here,

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:11.080
<v Speaker 2>and you go the whole week before I come here

1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 2>without talking about it wasn't a week, you.

1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Said, it was three days?

1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Still long enough.

1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:17.480
<v Speaker 1>What was it that he didn't respond to that?

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:19.440
<v Speaker 3>But the reason why he because.

1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:20.880
<v Speaker 2>He left me all read. I said, you leave me

1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.840
<v Speaker 2>on red raggedy. Then he said, yo, this was but

1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:28.440
<v Speaker 2>see I don't know the dates now it says Monday, Saturday, Saturday, Monday, Monday, Tuesday,

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday later no regardless, noo, But like like, I don't care.

1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like the communication effort. You not gonna get

1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 2>in my faith, layup with me and be in my

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:39.280
<v Speaker 2>pussy if you wasn't.

1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:43.200
<v Speaker 3>But see that wasn't a dick roller decks that was

1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:47.960
<v Speaker 3>fucking unsolved mysteries, right, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I just I just feel like I feel like that

1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:53.520
<v Speaker 3>what fucks us up in our head is how we

1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.280
<v Speaker 3>think things are supposed to be. And most of his

1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:59.160
<v Speaker 3>damage is done before we even interact with another human being.

1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.040
<v Speaker 3>And most and I think a lot of times we

1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 3>set people up for failure because we don't even give

1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:09.200
<v Speaker 3>them the whole play. We just give them the offensive line.

1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.640
<v Speaker 1>We're saying right before, and to his point, right before

1:01:11.680 --> 1:01:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't want to fuck with someone that was

1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:17.160
<v Speaker 1>energetically on a vendor. Now it's the standards you have.

1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:20.880
<v Speaker 2>But but why can't two things exist? I genuinely do

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:22.560
<v Speaker 2>not want to deal with someone.

1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Me with your friends. But me, let's be me, drinking.

1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:31.160
<v Speaker 2>With my friends did not leave me unresponsive to the people,

1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the niggas, the friends, my family that I care about.

1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:37.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's one thing. Hold on and me drinking or

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:39.920
<v Speaker 2>having fun is not me being on a binge, me

1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:43.200
<v Speaker 2>literally not sleeping because I'm drinking, I'm partying. I'm exuding

1:01:43.520 --> 1:01:45.360
<v Speaker 2>this level of behavior. I can drink, I can have

1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:47.560
<v Speaker 2>a drink. That's not a problem. At the same time,

1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:50.919
<v Speaker 2>now that I'm casually dating one thing that I wasn't doing.

1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Are you are you no?

1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:54.440
<v Speaker 2>No, and we're not going to do this.

1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:58.400
<v Speaker 1>No man, no to me if you're just fucking a nigga.

1:01:58.480 --> 1:02:00.439
<v Speaker 2>To me, if I'm just fucking a nigga, I still

1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:04.440
<v Speaker 2>want the common courtesy, human decency of you responding to

1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:07.040
<v Speaker 2>me and not leaving me on red for three days,

1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 2>especially knowing I'm coming to your city. Bro, I get it. Sorry,

1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:12.160
<v Speaker 2>anybody that I'm gonna hope my.

1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Legs laying about like my volume, like Beard Bay cut

1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:17.000
<v Speaker 1>me off for like a or six months because he

1:02:17.040 --> 1:02:20.080
<v Speaker 1>said I didn't text backward. But I get that. I'm like, bro, okay,

1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:23.160
<v Speaker 1>but you're not my nick like, get over it. I'd'm sorry,

1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:26.640
<v Speaker 1>but when people make me beholden to like answering on

1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:30.280
<v Speaker 1>their time, but it's not even mean to me literally

1:02:30.320 --> 1:02:32.000
<v Speaker 1>with my friends all weekend. Let's just say it's a

1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:34.280
<v Speaker 1>birthday weekend. I'm having a good time. Okay, I'll get

1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to you when I get to you. I don't.

1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't, and that's up to me.

1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to get to work text. I get it.

1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I get it, but I don't expect. I don't expect

1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:45.880
<v Speaker 2>mind you of response within an hour. If we are

1:02:46.000 --> 1:02:49.480
<v Speaker 2>actively talking, I'm coming to your city. You supposed to

1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:52.320
<v Speaker 2>lay up and be up inside of me. You not

1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:55.280
<v Speaker 2>responding for days on end. I'm sorry. There's no way

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<v Speaker 2>that you deserve at this point, my time, my pussy,

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<v Speaker 2>my space, and to me. I've finally gotten to a point,

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<v Speaker 2>thank God, where I can actually feel as though only

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<v Speaker 2>people that make me feel wanted, feel desired should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be in my space and to me, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's a text message within twenty four hours, twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hours is not asking a lot. I don't need joe

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<v Speaker 2>As to respond once.

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<v Speaker 1>I text you.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you go three four days without hitting me

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<v Speaker 2>a week before I'm coming to your city, you are

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<v Speaker 2>not someone that I need to give my time to.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's your standard. Cool, However, I just think we

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<v Speaker 1>are putting a lot of rules on casual. It's human.

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<v Speaker 1>I think deity deserves that. I don't think fucking does shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you gonna be in my pussy? You got

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm give him shit pussy next weekend July fourth

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<v Speaker 1>weekend and I don't hit them back this week whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like if all we talk about is sex.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't only talk about sex, we talk about his

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<v Speaker 2>kid work, nigga, you got me on FaceTime even caring

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<v Speaker 2>about your motherfucking Oh sorry, there's a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, y'all really don't need nobody else. But no,

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<v Speaker 3>like check that was crazy, but it's brilliant. It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a debate, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think if that didn't happen with your

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<v Speaker 1>ex and you weren't in that mode, if I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't thirty three and grew to fuck up and say,

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<v Speaker 2>these niggas don't deserve pussye, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, all right, A couple of things, A

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<v Speaker 3>couple of things, A couple of things right for me?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because I want to be treated well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think. I think Mandy gives pussy. I

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<v Speaker 3>think some women just get dick, and those are those

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<v Speaker 3>are those are different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy's actually giving the dick in this scenario, Yo, come, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but no no, actually she's not like if.

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<v Speaker 1>You lover, if you're someone that's showing up for sex,

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<v Speaker 1>women giving you an experienced nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, you know there are like in my

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<v Speaker 3>own personal life, any casual sex I've had is like

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<v Speaker 3>it would be like I'm talking to a woman in

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<v Speaker 3>DM for like a year and a half. I finally

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<v Speaker 3>our schedules, finally connecting, we're in the same city at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, and then we fucked. Or it might

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<v Speaker 3>be like an ex girlfriend who doesn't want to move

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<v Speaker 3>on and actually fucking new nigga, but she's okay with

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<v Speaker 3>fucking me even though we're not in a relationship. That's

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<v Speaker 3>probably like my extent of casual sex. Now, no, those

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<v Speaker 3>instances are different. But I just feel like in my incident,

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<v Speaker 3>she just wanted to come get some dick. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a submissive woman trying to make sure that she had

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<v Speaker 3>a qualified, caring person to give her pussy to.

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<v Speaker 2>She just wants.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when a woman wants dick, she will go to

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<v Speaker 3>her nearest nightclub, motherfucking car wash, wherever, wherever dix are

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<v Speaker 3>so and to be like, you know what givings like, Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>it don't gotta be free, Like if a nigga gives

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<v Speaker 3>you great dick, you should put fifty. You remember y'all

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<v Speaker 3>had the love guy in here and he was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>I fucked the bank teller. Jason Love right, Jason Love

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<v Speaker 3>told me that if you fucking bank Taeller good and

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<v Speaker 3>you count of fucked up, she should bless you for

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<v Speaker 3>the happy ended. Like I wish I would have got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more cash for the quality dick I was

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<v Speaker 3>giving out, especially as a side nigga, because side nigga

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<v Speaker 3>dick is what saves relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>That kept me so happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm saying crazy, But no, that was

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<v Speaker 3>But like I think most women have to ask themselves

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<v Speaker 3>when they're when they engage, when they when they get

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<v Speaker 3>that they they dick roller DECKX moment they got asked them,

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<v Speaker 3>am I trying to get fucked? Or am I trying

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<v Speaker 3>to actually give my pussy to somebody I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>cares about me. And if you don't have your mind

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<v Speaker 3>made up about that, you're gonna set You're gonna set

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<v Speaker 3>other people up.

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<v Speaker 1>For get like it's super emoi and for the most

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't want to let me be emo.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's the point, like that I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make so like I'm so emotional in sexual encounters

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<v Speaker 1>that I've sometimes ruined what it's just a sexual encounter

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<v Speaker 1>men that I don't want to date men that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to spend more time with them that I

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<v Speaker 1>know is a bad investment of my time. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like because I've had those parameters and not just a

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<v Speaker 1>text or whatever they like I'm talking about, maybe I've

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<v Speaker 1>had like rules or whatever set it's kind of kept

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<v Speaker 1>me from fun casual sex. I really think I was

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<v Speaker 1>so on a high horse. I'm not saying you are

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<v Speaker 1>with the sex in my past, with what I needed

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<v Speaker 1>from casual sex partners. Then it really kept me away

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<v Speaker 1>from niggas because it's like, damn, you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>be your boyfriend, but not be your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it ain't keeping me away from niggas. I just said,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>See you, right, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, do maybe people want these these other than monogamous bonds,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think a lot of people really want

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<v Speaker 3>full blown casual sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people don't. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think we I think we did people, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think we all. I think we all march to that

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<v Speaker 3>drum like as like like if if culture at the

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<v Speaker 3>highest is in entertainment and the music, all the music

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<v Speaker 3>suggests that you know, we can fuck niggas just because

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<v Speaker 3>they give us money, and then we can fuck hose

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<v Speaker 3>because they just look good and they want to be around.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think people like on the day to day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think people can actually handle that.

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<v Speaker 1>I complete. I think men can't either.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of women I wanted them to call

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<v Speaker 3>me back.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're going to ask for something casual and we

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<v Speaker 1>want this casual exchange, we can't then say it has

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<v Speaker 1>to come with X y Z.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's not casual. That's if you want me to

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<v Speaker 3>clean my crib and have roses on the table before

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<v Speaker 3>you come get dick. You did not come over here

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<v Speaker 3>for dick. You came from romance, and romance is different

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<v Speaker 3>than tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Me what y'all think about this scenario that's happening into

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<v Speaker 1>a homegirl mind claims she's had the best stick in

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<v Speaker 1>her life, hates that he sends her an uber and

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<v Speaker 1>she pulls up. She has now added this stipulation, but

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<v Speaker 1>after about four months, she would prefer at least they

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<v Speaker 1>have a meal together and go out and get drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>This niggas like, that's that you want me to take

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<v Speaker 1>you on a date before I fucking get some pussy

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<v Speaker 1>that I ain't going and we're like all we do

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<v Speaker 1>is fucked. So literally said to her, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of read you, but she didn't deserve He

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<v Speaker 1>sent her a text he said, Hey, we'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>keep seeing you, but like, I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not dating other people and you're suddenly putting a requirement

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<v Speaker 1>on me that we didn't set in the beginning. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do this pretend thing just to keep

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<v Speaker 1>having set like we already.

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<v Speaker 2>Had but casual sec he now wants to date him to.

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<v Speaker 1>Know se, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she just wants something else wants.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think she wants to date him. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she just she wants to.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't feel good about it, right, But no, But

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying in my what you for our twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so fine with that, And that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying even this person, Yes, it's as small as a

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<v Speaker 2>text back, I text doesn't count, no, but what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying is too. Even in my encounters of casual sex,

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<v Speaker 2>now I know the things that I like is romance.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's crazy is I took a screenshot because you

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<v Speaker 2>have a poem on your you have a poem on

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<v Speaker 2>your page, and I have a screenshot from Cinnamon Love

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<v Speaker 2>who used to be who actually was a guest here

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast, and the response to your poem.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, wrong phone.

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<v Speaker 2>This, this uh dealing with two phones thing is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Who got two phones?

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<v Speaker 2>Me? I got two? One for the whole you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, you know, well.

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<v Speaker 3>She that's like ipassed. When I first came a.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she left, she basically left a comment under your

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<v Speaker 2>page and here it goes right here she said that no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's wrong too. Basically anyway, don't know where the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>is at, but she basically said that romance is actually

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<v Speaker 2>the bare minimum and is in terms of your interaction

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody. And I think, to me, again, the flowers

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<v Speaker 2>can be a lot. Responding to a text is minimal,

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<v Speaker 2>But the way I used to talk about the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of not needing intimacy, romance to me does now seem

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<v Speaker 2>like the bare minimum and what someone can at least

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<v Speaker 2>offer if you laying down giving them your whole body. No,

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<v Speaker 2>look at ah, bitch, AnyWho.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>say I don't want to shit on you at this

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<v Speaker 1>because as someone that's required.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and now I do, I wasted my time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got in so many little like things of self

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<v Speaker 1>worthiness about if a man wasn't doing these things before

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<v Speaker 1>he fucked me, and I think it was simply ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>because I genuinely just wanted to fuck. I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted someone deeper, smarter, maybe just better at all aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of life, or someone that was a better fit for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I get.

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<v Speaker 2>But for some reason, I was really sitting here like.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't fuck with him because he didn't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's the bfing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been dickless, not right now. I had been dickless

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<v Speaker 1>for funds because I was doing shit like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, oh no, if someone is safe

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<v Speaker 1>and respectful, yes, nigga, that's enough. I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just realized in ending my relationship the same way. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>when you have sex, you want your dick suck, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You like for your dick to get sucked if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, will you know manny?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, let me finish, let me finish.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you have sex with somebody you want them to

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<v Speaker 2>kiss you right, Okay. So to me, what I realized

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<v Speaker 2>from my last relationship, the intimacy that I obtained actually

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<v Speaker 2>fulfilled me more than the dick.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's that one moment? So one moment?

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<v Speaker 2>So when I so, when I broke up with when

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<v Speaker 2>I broke up with my ex and went back to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seven, well, we had sex, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it was top three of the sex, I felt empty after.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, now, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have sex with someone, though these aren't sexual things, it's

1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the things that within my mind make my pussy drip.

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<v Speaker 2>But were you always feeling empty?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what I'm saying. I experienced with my ex,

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<v Speaker 2>the things, the going out and getting drinks, the talking,

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<v Speaker 2>the laying hold on, let me finish, Let me finish.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because because I am such a sexual being and

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<v Speaker 2>because I've had this nasty, freaky, wild sex, I can

1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:39.559
<v Speaker 2>have that with anybody. However, now that I'm having these

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<v Speaker 2>casual encounters or I'm having sex now with people that

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<v Speaker 2>are not my man, I realize though after my relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that actually turn me on about even being

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<v Speaker 2>around a nigga are those little those little intimacy not wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to just say that, well, yeah, because these

1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:55.719
<v Speaker 2>are my feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying if the expectation you have if a

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<v Speaker 1>man doesn't do it, I think that you being no

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<v Speaker 1>because you experienced love and now your standardship, well no,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't have a boyfriend right now. You need

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<v Speaker 1>these niggas to fill the gap. It's not even filling

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<v Speaker 1>the gap as much as this is.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm gonna lay up with you and give you

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<v Speaker 2>my time and give you my pussy to me, the

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<v Speaker 2>things that actually fulfill me and make me feel good

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<v Speaker 2>are those little things outside of it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why, and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I communicate that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why romance can never be the bare minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitch. I ain't gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a circle back because I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>agreeing with that girl. But you're right, I mean, because

1:14:37.240 --> 1:14:39.479
<v Speaker 2>clearly it's a lot to ask for it. You're telling

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<v Speaker 2>me it's a lot to ask for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've been, like I've been on this planet before,

1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:46.160
<v Speaker 3>like you said, but right now, but right now, this time,

1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:49.880
<v Speaker 3>thirty nine years is time, right, and out of all

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that they've introduced, like electric cars, diamonds,

1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:59.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, fucking keyese that doesn't go moldy after forty

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<v Speaker 3>five days?

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<v Speaker 1>The fuck is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? The best the best invention was like this best

1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:09.800
<v Speaker 3>friend that you can have sex and create life with.

1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't care about how if you if you

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<v Speaker 3>work hard enough, you can become like a doctor who

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<v Speaker 3>can actually like crack. Like that's cool. But you know

1:15:18.360 --> 1:15:22.120
<v Speaker 3>what else is cool? Everybody else in my life I inherited,

1:15:24.360 --> 1:15:27.960
<v Speaker 3>you know that. God, no, none of these people I picked. Yeah,

1:15:28.080 --> 1:15:30.080
<v Speaker 3>but I but guess what, guess what I can do?

1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Like you know, just like they've invented like fucking polyester

1:15:33.840 --> 1:15:36.519
<v Speaker 3>and poly your thing. They invented this concept that you

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<v Speaker 3>could take a stranger who you find visually pleasing yep,

1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:45.400
<v Speaker 3>and you can. You can abandon everything that was of

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<v Speaker 3>no value to you and you get the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>start anew with a person who is not your elder

1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:54.040
<v Speaker 3>or a parent figure that you had to serve for

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<v Speaker 3>some time, and you have to do the reciprocal when

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<v Speaker 3>they get older. Right, Like this is its own thing,

1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:00.519
<v Speaker 3>and the beauty about it is it hits you in

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<v Speaker 3>so many places that the person like that, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's literally your umbrella in a storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you when you have that, the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that we like when we connect, it's like what,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mind. Like I could have a connection with

1:16:20.280 --> 1:16:25.240
<v Speaker 3>a dog, but it doesn't arouse me sexually, but woman does.

1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:30.599
<v Speaker 3>So I can communicate with women, I can creep pro

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<v Speaker 3>create with women like it's the most beautiful thing that

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<v Speaker 3>ever existed. But the only thing that stops you from

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<v Speaker 3>just being my homie is the romance.

1:16:40.800 --> 1:16:44.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, but romance for some men and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not for you, because you seem just someone who

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<v Speaker 1>applies a lot to give obviously throughout your work too.

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<v Speaker 1>Romance for some men is not for that connection is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>But so so Spanish. So is a Spanish customs form

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<v Speaker 3>to somebody who never got it in high school? What

1:17:07.080 --> 1:17:15.160
<v Speaker 3>you're missing? It's like, well, you know, I guess, I guess,

1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:18.559
<v Speaker 3>like I kind of try to have analogies because I

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<v Speaker 3>want people to take their same logic and introduced it

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<v Speaker 3>to any other area of life, of life. Uh oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>just let me. I just mean that romance to some men,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically black men, specifically black men who never watched their

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<v Speaker 3>mom get bought flowers, right, specifically black men who've never

1:17:38.360 --> 1:17:41.479
<v Speaker 3>who were never brought up in an environment that catered

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<v Speaker 3>to women, you know, especially because they don't get the like,

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<v Speaker 3>where do urban black men American right, let's be let's

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<v Speaker 3>be specific, where do urban black men get their romance

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<v Speaker 3>programming from?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I think it's wrong. I believe it's taught.

1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I think we all all win and have

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<v Speaker 1>had to do a service with one.

1:18:01.760 --> 1:18:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Nick yes to tea you gotta teach.

1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:08.320
<v Speaker 1>You gotta teach your ex girlfriend that nigga's so good,

1:18:08.640 --> 1:18:11.280
<v Speaker 1>random flowers all the time. Thank you girl. You gotta

1:18:11.320 --> 1:18:13.160
<v Speaker 1>find out who I am yet, because you're probably going

1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:16.280
<v Speaker 1>deep in the pictures and being like this bitch. But yeah,

1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I learn it from when I was my ex last one.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you learn it from women. I actually believe this

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<v Speaker 1>is why men need homegirls, female friendship and kinship.

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<v Speaker 3>No when they when they took black churches and black

1:18:28.640 --> 1:18:33.439
<v Speaker 3>community centers. Uh, black people are never as youth. Inner

1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:35.640
<v Speaker 3>city black kids are never put in an opportunity in

1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:38.800
<v Speaker 3>a situation other than school where they can develop and

1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:43.000
<v Speaker 3>fellowship like platonically right, like it's and then even as

1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:46.599
<v Speaker 3>even as adults, man the networking events are never as

1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:49.479
<v Speaker 3>crowded as the nightclubs. And we're all in this in

1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:52.840
<v Speaker 3>this you know romance, like not even romantic, it's just

1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:55.160
<v Speaker 3>the sexual culture. So we don't have a place that

1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:58.960
<v Speaker 3>we harvest them like like like like Sunday school and

1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:02.200
<v Speaker 3>church and acquire practice the day before that was enough

1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:05.960
<v Speaker 3>programming to compete with the world, like with school, and

1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:08.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like whatever, whatever, whatever got drilled into my kids'

1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:11.880
<v Speaker 3>brains through Monday through Friday, between a good home and

1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.679
<v Speaker 3>church and community activities, it would.

1:19:14.520 --> 1:19:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Kind of wash that shit out.

1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:21.200
<v Speaker 3>But at a certain age, right, I can no longer

1:19:21.200 --> 1:19:24.960
<v Speaker 3>be responsible, like just I have to take ownership over

1:19:25.040 --> 1:19:28.080
<v Speaker 3>my own rearing, Like as a twenty two year old man,

1:19:28.240 --> 1:19:30.519
<v Speaker 3>if I didn't have certain qualities, it would be a

1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:34.680
<v Speaker 3>lot easier for me to blame my parents or you know,

1:19:34.920 --> 1:19:35.360
<v Speaker 3>just you know.

1:19:35.439 --> 1:19:39.200
<v Speaker 4>But at forty So with that said, yeah, to rap it.

1:19:39.160 --> 1:19:40.479
<v Speaker 3>To rapid, because we gotta.

1:19:40.320 --> 1:19:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Go no, no, no, just like actually, because I really

1:19:42.560 --> 1:19:45.360
<v Speaker 1>am curious from what you're on right now. Sure, if

1:19:45.360 --> 1:19:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a woman and you have a casual sexual relationship.

1:19:47.760 --> 1:19:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Casual sexual relationship.

1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:52.640
<v Speaker 1>And romance is something she's requiring, do you feel like

1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that's too much to add.

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<v Speaker 3>I think even my casual sex comes with romance because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't that the pleasure of pen tration is great,

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<v Speaker 3>but the viscosity is I'm.

1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Gonna use that. That's a good one, dis.

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<v Speaker 2>B I s see, oh see why that sounded right, nigga?

1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>At one point you think that that most should.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a lot of a lot of people were taught

1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:27.919
<v Speaker 3>how to how to talk to desire sex separate from romance.

1:20:28.840 --> 1:20:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I thought sex for me was always the result of

1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:35.800
<v Speaker 3>my romance. Like I was writing poems and cooking for

1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:39.800
<v Speaker 3>women before I kissed them, and I was, you know

1:20:39.840 --> 1:20:42.200
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, like I had to. I wanted to

1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:46.680
<v Speaker 3>be romantic because I it felt good for me to

1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:49.880
<v Speaker 3>be romantic, but I knew it it made them feel

1:20:49.920 --> 1:20:50.400
<v Speaker 3>good too.

1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But it was your blur a line for either party?

1:20:56.520 --> 1:20:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Of course it does.

1:20:57.600 --> 1:20:59.120
<v Speaker 3>It can't finish the question.

1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I know where shes gonna does it ever?

1:21:00.920 --> 1:21:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Blur line for either parties to where it may not

1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:06.759
<v Speaker 1>be healthy? He is this where we fall into.

1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, yes, the best the love of mone fall into.

1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:12.719
<v Speaker 2>But that's where you have to constantly. But that's where

1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:15.680
<v Speaker 2>talking and listening to me comes into play. It's communication,

1:21:15.760 --> 1:21:18.439
<v Speaker 2>and we always talk about communication being key, right, We've

1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:21.920
<v Speaker 2>been saying that from episode one, So to me, when

1:21:21.960 --> 1:21:24.519
<v Speaker 2>you you have to express the things that you want,

1:21:24.640 --> 1:21:27.160
<v Speaker 2>what you're looking for, and you have to listen to

1:21:27.200 --> 1:21:29.160
<v Speaker 2>what this person also wants, but what they're willing to

1:21:29.160 --> 1:21:30.720
<v Speaker 2>offer as soon as.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't handle this. Actually I'm a person that I

1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:38.080
<v Speaker 1>cannot handle too much romance in casual situations because it's

1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:42.320
<v Speaker 1>ann casual situation, because it's actually so needed and important

1:21:42.360 --> 1:21:44.400
<v Speaker 1>for me that I would not know what to do

1:21:44.439 --> 1:21:46.479
<v Speaker 1>with it. I'm gonna really receive it, you know what

1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, You fucking make it?

1:21:48.000 --> 1:21:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Are you're scared though? Like? Have you? Have you done

1:21:49.960 --> 1:21:53.160
<v Speaker 3>the right to ask yourself through? Am I? Am? I? Am?

1:21:53.160 --> 1:21:55.639
<v Speaker 3>I afraid of going I want to keep the romance

1:21:55.640 --> 1:21:57.960
<v Speaker 3>at baby, because I'm afraid of going over the cliff hurt,

1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:00.920
<v Speaker 3>not even being hurt, but just being just unlocking that

1:22:01.000 --> 1:22:03.479
<v Speaker 3>level of romance to where you get to Wheremandy is

1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:05.559
<v Speaker 3>and I can't have the sex without the romances. Like

1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:08.439
<v Speaker 3>is that is that a genuine fear? You know?

1:22:08.520 --> 1:22:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Like if I fear, actually it's not her, it's not that,

1:22:11.640 --> 1:22:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it's more about I know that people have an understanding.

1:22:15.200 --> 1:22:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say we're gonna start fucking right, and I

1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:19.880
<v Speaker 1>know you're a poet type of dude. I know you're

1:22:19.880 --> 1:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna have the candles out. If you started doing those

1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>things for me, the lines would be blurred because this

1:22:24.800 --> 1:22:27.280
<v Speaker 1>is simply something that turns you on as a part

1:22:27.320 --> 1:22:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of sex. You're that type of guy scorpio or whatever.

1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like, Oh, this feels amazing. I would

1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>love to keep having this. My brain just can't compute

1:22:36.200 --> 1:22:37.280
<v Speaker 1>romance and sex.

1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>So you can because you can't comp I've compartmentalized especially

1:22:42.040 --> 1:22:46.160
<v Speaker 2>sex like often, like I've had sex because I was

1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:48.400
<v Speaker 2>drunk and just wanted to have fun. I ate pussy

1:22:48.400 --> 1:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>because I just wanted to eat pussy, not that it

1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:53.080
<v Speaker 2>was anything more than that, and in my twenties whether

1:22:53.120 --> 1:22:54.759
<v Speaker 2>it was transactional.

1:22:56.800 --> 1:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Shut up. Likely.

1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:02.920
<v Speaker 2>So so because I've been able to compartmentalize sex as

1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:06.240
<v Speaker 2>something that genuinely makes me feel good. Now that I'm

1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:09.400
<v Speaker 2>able to even add the levels of romance that make

1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:12.120
<v Speaker 2>me feel good, says don't make me say why you?

1:23:12.160 --> 1:23:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Steven said, I wish I could have sex like you? Right,

1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:20.160
<v Speaker 2>everybody more shit like it is. This is cannot do this.

1:23:18.960 --> 1:23:22.599
<v Speaker 1>I ain't trying to do the ship like my homegirl

1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:25.599
<v Speaker 1>asking for my homegirl wants to do to start doing

1:23:25.600 --> 1:23:28.160
<v Speaker 1>things that make her feel more of a human being

1:23:28.439 --> 1:23:31.400
<v Speaker 1>when in reality, but see that because she doesn't, she

1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:35.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't find the value of just being someone's sex fuck buddy.

1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Right to me though, this is to me a patriarchal thing.

1:23:39.360 --> 1:23:41.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, No, I get it, I get it. But

1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:44.519
<v Speaker 2>there's also, like I said, there's a layer. Then she

1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:45.759
<v Speaker 2>needs to sit with herself.

1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Is it is she need to sit with a nigga?

1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like doing it? Hit me how great it

1:23:52.680 --> 1:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>is you were able to call me on the way

1:23:54.240 --> 1:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>back from Yeah, I just got it and going and

1:23:56.200 --> 1:23:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I just got fucking.

1:23:56.960 --> 1:23:58.559
<v Speaker 3>Now, how are you going to say at your job

1:23:58.600 --> 1:24:00.679
<v Speaker 3>paying twenty two without asking for twenty five?

1:24:01.280 --> 1:24:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Point? Is if you decided, hey, I'm casual. We're casual.

1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>This isn't going beyond this.

1:24:07.040 --> 1:24:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Yesterday's price is not today's.

1:24:08.880 --> 1:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Price, period, Please period, It's the price when I signed on.

1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>No matter.

1:24:13.200 --> 1:24:15.759
<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing to all women that she wants

1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:19.639
<v Speaker 2>him to take her on a date or to feed her, whatever,

1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:22.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever the case may be. Right as women, if you

1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:25.679
<v Speaker 2>express that you need something or that you want something,

1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and this man is like, I ain't got it for you.

1:24:28.560 --> 1:24:31.960
<v Speaker 2>That now becomes her responsibility if this man is not

1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:33.599
<v Speaker 2>willing to give her what she wants, like me.

1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:37.719
<v Speaker 1>So what's happening on this? And she feels so down

1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>like because she's like, I can't believe he won't do

1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:43.400
<v Speaker 1>this for me. She's feeling bad about herself. I'm like, girl,

1:24:43.840 --> 1:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it's literally learning with men. He's about to get into

1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a thing with you because now y'all are taking this

1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:51.759
<v Speaker 1>bedroom shit out in the real world and it's gonna

1:24:51.760 --> 1:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>turn into something headache.

1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:59.240
<v Speaker 3>If you if you you gotta can, Can we normalize

1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:06.160
<v Speaker 3>sticking dick and girls you wouldn't feed just to stick

1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:08.720
<v Speaker 3>your dick? And a woman like I don't understand that.

1:25:09.040 --> 1:25:12.240
<v Speaker 3>If if I've gotten the opportunity to sleep with a

1:25:12.280 --> 1:25:16.360
<v Speaker 3>woman without food for time and her only up the

1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:19.080
<v Speaker 3>price is like, yo, can we get a two for

1:25:19.080 --> 1:25:22.400
<v Speaker 3>forty at the sizzler before we step to that crib

1:25:22.439 --> 1:25:22.960
<v Speaker 3>getting down?

1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I hanging with no sizzler.

1:25:24.120 --> 1:25:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Bit I mean, but I mean I regardless, like bro,

1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:29.760
<v Speaker 3>like I will, I will feed you dick, but not postive.

1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Mike, thank you so much for joining us.

1:25:32.640 --> 1:25:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

1:25:34.760 --> 1:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Can you please let everyone know where they can follow you,

1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:38.560
<v Speaker 2>where they can support you, and also your book that

1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you got.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, So my name is just Mike the Poet.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time I cried was on Patreon when I

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<v Speaker 2>was going through all that goddamn bullshit with that bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>So BT weekend came. My boyfriend came to LA and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really talk about my dad too much because

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I don't like to really talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>health and you know, he's getting older. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>so emotional because he met my dad and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>was just having a hard day. You know older people

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<v Speaker 1>like they got a good day, they got a bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>So he just needed a little care and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a very vulnerable thing for me to

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<v Speaker 1>meet my dad because no one had met my dad

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<v Speaker 1>since olday and at that point my dad wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>a wheelchair, so this was like a new thing and

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<v Speaker 1>we hadn't really talked about it much. My mom was there.

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<v Speaker 1>We all just played games together. It was nice like

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<v Speaker 1>we were enjoying each other's company.

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<v Speaker 2>We hadn't really talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just told him how much it meant to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night we were on a double date. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to a couple that just got married. We

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<v Speaker 1>just went to their wedding. It was Gila. Y'all always

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<v Speaker 1>hear me talk about the other Guila. So basically we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about each other's parents and he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got to meet her dad, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so nice to see how that side of her is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I see her mom and her but I was

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<v Speaker 1>glad to see her dad, Like I see the more

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<v Speaker 1>serious side. I see this protector energy that she has.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, my dad didn't even really talk, so how

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<v Speaker 1>did you see all that? Like all we did is

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<v Speaker 1>play a game. He didn't really say much to you.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, because I could see it the way

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<v Speaker 1>you and your mom would move around. He would want

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<v Speaker 1>to look watch where you're going, to make sure you're good,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you can't open the door. It's always there,

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<v Speaker 1>like his masculinity is always there. And I was like, damn, bro, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's just dating someone that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little more.

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<v Speaker 2>Empathetic or what.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I never had conversations like this outside of

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<v Speaker 1>scissors about my parents or how things make me feel.

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<v Speaker 4>Like all day was very surface level, and I it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of men are, and especially black men.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't hit you until it hits you when

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<v Speaker 1>you have something different. And like, I'm watching him and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to start crying. And at this table

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<v Speaker 1>we're having like this fun dinner. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>he was thinking all that, and he said, then I wondered.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a few moments where I was like thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of how he looked at me and he's not even

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<v Speaker 1>saying this to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's saying this to gils Has.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I can watch him look at me with

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter and like he used to be this protector

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like the new one now for her. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like this weird moment I'm having and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>what because he told me none of this and he's

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<v Speaker 1>really thinking about it, and he's like and it made

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<v Speaker 1>me wonder how he feels like you should be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going and drilling your daughter's new man and figuring all

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<v Speaker 1>this shit. And he's like, but maybe he can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's in a wheel chair, but because he can't

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<v Speaker 1>move around on his own, like maybe he's feeling a way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, bro, it was just getting me

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<v Speaker 1>really emotional. And we were in the car home. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, like you'really gonna be my husband, Like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like I understand now, Like this is why this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. This weekend we went to a Nigerian wedding

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to be around his parents again. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I walked in, not joking, I was the only

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<v Speaker 1>light skinned person it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I felt like a white one.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga. I wanted there. I was like, and mind you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking you sure we all got wearing nothing African.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just not an anti table nigga. He's like, no, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing my fucking tabby booths. Like do your thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like we dressed a lot. We're sitting at his whole table.

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<v Speaker 3>His dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody got African council. This is his dad. He got

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<v Speaker 1>up there, he's like making a speech and I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there like, oh my god. They think I'm Puerto Rican

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<v Speaker 1>and they think that I'm the woman that made you

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<v Speaker 1>wear a fucking regular suit. Like that's all I could

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<v Speaker 1>think is that I'm this influence, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also feeling this pressure because he's been around my

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<v Speaker 1>mom a lot, right because we're going to LA for

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<v Speaker 1>a week at a time, and you know, my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>right there, and I'm just like, am I not doing enough?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how do I make sure I'm respecting the elders?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's such a process with Africans, Like, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do to let them know like how much

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<v Speaker 1>I care about their son? I don't want to overdo

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<v Speaker 1>it either with your hands, right, we didn't eat foo

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<v Speaker 1>food and okay, okay, but making the wedding was Jamaican

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<v Speaker 1>and African.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I was on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Court all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Yeah, it's really tough because now I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>this phase of my life where I'm like, ooh, like

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to make sure I never thought.

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<v Speaker 2>About being this good for someone's mom before we're their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>But what hit me? I'm at this wedding where he

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<v Speaker 1>introduced me to fifteen uncles, ten cousins, you know, Africans.

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