1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible decision. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Horrible Decisions. I 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: feel like I can because, bitch, i've been moaning, I've 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: been doing some good ship. I'm your girl. Madv Aka 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: well cor buks aka did beach? 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, I'm weezy. Welcome back for another episode. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Now we're not solo, but we have a man in 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: the building. So y'all could either love him r we do. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: He's a poet, he's an author, he's my friend out 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: of Philly. We were touring with Tonight's conversations and I'm 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: glad to have you shoes at. 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't do shoes. Are you joking? 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: No? 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: She must. She didn't know boyfriend. She didn't know about 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: the shoes. 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: Why would I know about the shoes. I just know 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: about the poaching. 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: Oh, it's all together. It's a package. 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: Let me see the bottom of your socks. 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, on camera right now? 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Are the bottom of the. 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Stat walking here with shoes? 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: No? 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: No, he has shoes. 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: You thought you walked in with no shoe typing ship 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: you took him off, you thought, oh wait, you thought 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: he just walked No shoes. 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: My expectations so low of people. I'm so aware. I'd 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: be like, listen, wherever slow your boat. You already kind 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: of have a hole teppy vibe. You might have been like, yo, 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: I can't be that close to the. 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: Earth if no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna lie. I 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: don't know about hoteppie. 34 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: But it's giving. I don't know. 35 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: We have to come up with that other word. Maybe artsy, 36 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: but not because you're from Philly but you do poetry. 37 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just being funny, like you know, it's 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: not like you came here with a danglyar. 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: No, like ho teppy to me is nineteen keys that 40 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: for sure. Like hotel, Like I don't think take grand 41 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: minds the hotel when dudes be saying ship to me, 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: Like when I. 43 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Walked in and you said something about your boyfriend, I 44 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: don't really believe in boyfriend whatever you. 45 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So wait, you said you don't believe in boyfriend? 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: Yes you for me? No, it's not a thing. 47 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Boyfriends is not a thing. So what is just the. 48 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: Concept of it? I mean I feel like like, like 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: do we have to stop here on a way to 50 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: the altar? 51 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh? So you just believe in you love her. 52 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: If you love her, either marry her or Sarah free. 53 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 4: Oh why do you have to Why can't we test 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: the waters first? 55 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I mean, why do we have to 56 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: put these relationship handcuffs? Like you know how to swim? Right? 57 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't have my relationship just like you ain't 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: got no ship. 59 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: Well, relationship with our handcuffs is a little boring. In 60 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: my personal opinion, I would say get handcuffs. 61 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: No. 62 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, in the bedroom where you're talking about 63 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: just locking somebody down, and even that word I don't like, 64 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: Like I don't like the locking down to somebody. 65 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, this is what I feel like 66 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: good prim and is mean like when I say no handcuffs, 67 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: like I don't want a relationship to feel like I 68 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: can never do anything again. Like my man just said 69 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to me a few nights ago. I don't know if 70 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: I said this on Horrible, but we were talking about 71 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: bachelor and butch red parties because I have a friend 72 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: of mine who's getting married, and he was like, I'm 73 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: not having a bachelor party. I'm like why, He's like, 74 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: what am I having some last fucking night of some shit? 75 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: I can't do without telling you. He was like, no, 76 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm not in a relationship where I'm like gotta fucking 77 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: ham on my throat, Like I don't need a bachelor party. 78 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: I can live my life with you, So I'm not 79 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: doing that. Year. I was like, damn, dude, because I'm 80 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: having one if you think I'm not about the swat 81 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: away a penis. 82 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: But but I was gonna say bachelorette parties are different 83 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: than bachelor parties. 84 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: But I guess, like when he said that to me, 85 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: he's like, Yo, all of my friends that have talked 86 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: about bachelor parties need to like get this last moment. 87 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I ain't going to jail. And I was like, okay, 88 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: So I say that to say, I think when a 89 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: relationship has too many restrictions, that's what keeps people from commitment. 90 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: And so I don't like that commitment has a tie 91 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: to there's nothing else, or I can't have this other 92 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: experience or whatever. So that's why I'm very happy to 93 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: be in a relationship that's like that. 94 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: But but wait, are you you're monogamous though? 95 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Correct? 96 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Okay, So I think that that's the difference too, 97 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: Like the the constructor idea that you're locked down and 98 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: can't do anything else. When you have a non traditional, 99 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: non monogamous relationship, all of those like don't press the 100 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: red button, and if you press the red button, it's over. 101 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: Thing goes out the window because you know that you're 102 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: open to just communicate with your partner. A I kind 103 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: of want some of the pussy today. Are we going 104 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: to do it together? 105 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: Now? Do you think? 106 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: Do you think monogamous men are monogamous because they don't 107 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: want it, but they have it. 108 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't think. 109 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I think most people are monogamous because that makes them 110 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: feel safer soon Like No, I just mean like I 111 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: think monogamy makes you feel like you only want me. 112 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: That means that we're good. If you want someone else, 113 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: you must not love me enough. 114 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: That's a bit mediocre depressing, Like if that was the 115 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: advertisement I read for monogamy, I. 116 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Wouldnt think about what happens when people get cheated on. 117 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: No, I think, I mean, I guess in my mind, 118 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: monogamy is not the it's not the requirement, it's the decision. 119 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: It's like yo, like, have you ever met a person 120 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: of abundance and you don't need nobody else? Like I'm 121 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: not monogamous because I have to be. It's like what 122 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: else could I need? 123 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's the it's the desires. Doesn't don't mean 124 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: that like you don't need anyone else. I have a 125 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: best friend, but I got other friends. I can't. 126 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 3: I mean, but the connection you have with this non 127 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: familiar human transcends every other relationship, or in my belief 128 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: it does. And that's that's such a like the two 129 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: become one, you know, so now the one of us 130 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: might want to go do something, but like this is 131 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: this is the homie, like this is my heart now. 132 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: I think when people are in these like mids like 133 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: these mid tier, mid depth relationships, then it's like I'm 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: in this waiting room. That's like really, it's like damn, 135 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: I can't wait to get back to single because I 136 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: hate it in here. 137 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: I only hate that idea because as a woman who 138 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: doesn't want marriage, yeah I want a partner, I don't 139 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: want it to be viewed as a mid tier limbo 140 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: as relationship only because there's no end goal of marriage. 141 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: And so this idea that you're either single or you're married, 142 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: it leaves out so many of the people that don't 143 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: seek marriage or that piece of paper or to walk 144 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: down the aisle like you know. 145 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: Like we just got three different I know. 146 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: When you were talking, all I thought was, oh, that hurts, 147 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: because I don't feel mid tier just because of other 148 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: sexual desires. So like, for example, if anyone's watched Will 149 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: and Jada talk about each other or Red Table Talk 150 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: or whatever. 151 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: Love them. 152 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Their love seems like there's no else I could touch it, right, 153 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem mid tier. They negas right, So I'm like, 154 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't I think somebody. 155 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, but it's not like how you 156 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: just said that. 157 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, like they. 158 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: This podcast not too much on Will, because I love 159 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: you so Will. 160 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: In person, baby, I wanted to hop on that thing. 161 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: If Jada was in the room, I would have asked 162 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: her permission. Now that motherfucker got a little to hold 163 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: that palm, because you. 164 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: Know, no, no, no, no, he did. I'm playing y'all laughing. 165 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: He really sat up there during Bad Boys and said, 166 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: do you know what I do? 167 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Mother? 168 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: No, I ain't even gonna hold you. I haven't been 169 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: in a room with a man with big dick energy 170 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: in a while. The way Will sat up there with 171 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 2: some big dicken. 172 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: He was like that don't mean I don't love my man. 173 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't at the bad boy. You're like, whoa, whoa? 174 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: And I also thinks there is as is a what 175 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: you'll get the. 176 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: I mean I think, I think. I think the more 177 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: we you do more Jesus, Listen, he did honestly. No, no, no, I. 178 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Mean less of the Sinny's nuts. Listen. 179 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: Well, this world is This world is a beautiful place, right, 180 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: But there's more than just re enforce here. Okay, now 181 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: we can start. We could start dating our demons and 182 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: dancing with him and taking them home and fucking them 183 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: and then calling them cousins and shoot and bail for him. 184 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm not like, how how 185 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: how slippery are we gonna go down this slope? If 186 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: you know what, everything's pretty much on the table. You 187 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: can be dudes, like, you know what, you should want 188 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: to desire another person, Like it's totally normal to desire 189 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: another person while you're so quote unquote madly in love. 190 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: Not only is it okay to desire them, but you 191 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: should also be in a space that's safe enough that 192 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: I can come to you with my feelings and you 193 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: should accept them and let me be happy. 194 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: So I like that. I like everything you said. I 195 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: know you're SI was like you were trying to be sarcastic, 196 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: trying to be sarcastic to me. To me, I hate 197 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: the limits and bounds that we place on ourselves, like 198 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: a we got one life to live now. Yes, I've 199 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: been here before, I know I have in another realm, 200 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be here again. But to me, where I'm at, 201 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: where I know. I went to Mexico. I wanted to 202 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: swim with well sharks. I just did the south of France, 203 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: and I want to try all these different foods cuisines, 204 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: visit the world. I want to do as much as 205 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: humanly possible while I'm here, and I don't want to 206 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: be limited by the bounds of other motherfuckers. 207 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: Of peace in school. But it is not in the 208 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: tent commandments. 209 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 210 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 3: God is not saying don't get an oxygen tank and 211 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: climb up Machu Pichu. He's not saying okay, He's just saying, 212 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: thou shall not still, thou shall not kill you know, 213 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: all the evils shall not cove it. LUs. 214 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: So I'm doing a lot. 215 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, phone marriage, we don't we don't fucked up a 216 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: lot of the things they say we should I think. 217 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: So, just to make it clear, I agree with you. 218 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: I I feel like I'm my house and household is 219 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: not this whole willy nilly like it's every day type thing. 220 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: But I do believe in moments, right, yes, and so 221 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm thirty three years old. You look great, thank you. 222 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: Fortunately he already happened. He can't. He's in my life. 223 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: I haven't experienced it all yet. 224 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: Now. 225 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: There really is not to sound like New York bitch, 226 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: there aren't many moments where I am feeling like I'm 227 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: just craving some of them, Like, that's not it. However, 228 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: what if I just happen to be with my homegirls, 229 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: we take a trip to Paris, right well, just in 230 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: France and there's some really cute French guy that's flirting 231 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: with me on the dance floor or American fun moment. Yes, 232 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: in my life, that just was something that I could do. Yes. 233 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: So many people start to resent their partner because they 234 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: can't enjoy a moment in time, and that to me work, huh, 235 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I self work. 236 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like when you hang around with 237 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: people with mud on their hands, they're going to get 238 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: it on your shirt, so you can't do nothing about it. 239 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: But you should have seen that type of person before 240 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: it got to that thing. Like that's different. Like love 241 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 3: is patient, love is kind, love is free? 242 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: But why is If love is free, then why is 243 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: it jeopardized? If I just made out with some French kindidance? 244 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: But listen, there's a moment, right, and then it's like okay, 245 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: like there's also decorum, there's also integrity, there's also honored 246 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: But what. 247 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: But how is me having that moment of freedom? And 248 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I would even just boil it down to well, the 249 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: question fun either jeopardize or invalidate or or make me 250 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: someone who's not loyal anybody? 251 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: If you want me no, kiss them? 252 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: I the word kiss. But even if if it was sex, right, 253 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: why does that take away what I have with this person? 254 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: How does it then tarnish. 255 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: All the cheating is Listening, what I delt with that 256 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: cheating is different. 257 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, explain that before. Cheating is a 258 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: very deceitful thing because we made a commitment and a 259 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: promise to each other. Cheating to me is a very 260 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: bottom tier thing. Okay, you're lying, You're you had to 261 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: go out of your way to fucking lie to me 262 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: to figure out how to tell me you fell asleep 263 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: to do all this other ship. 264 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: Now you really it's the lying then, not the cheating 265 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: that is the problem of it. 266 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Cheating requires a lie, Cheating requires deception. 267 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: Or if you were in France, they kiss this French guy, 268 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: it's only not cheating because you told your partner. 269 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: Do you tell them before or after? Well, I'm not 270 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: talking about these specific rules. I'm just saying in non monogamy, right, 271 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: these things can happen right or whatever relationship you have, 272 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: whatever those rules are, I'm just saying, specific to cheating, 273 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I understand how that's a moral that's lying to me. 274 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: It's a complete turn off because. 275 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 3: Even a deeper level, if we don't, if we're not, 276 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: if we're not going to go to black and white, 277 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: like what what in your in your inside could be fulfilled? 278 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: But just the presence of a foreign guy in a 279 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: foreign place, that simple, simple of an occurrence could lead 280 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: to something as passionate, as spiritual as just swapping a 281 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: flesh in any capacity. 282 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: So I don't think that sex is always spiritual with 283 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: other people. 284 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: It is my. 285 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: Part I can't talk about. 286 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: So I have sex. I've had sex with women and 287 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: men that I don't really care about. I don't even 288 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: remember the name I made great chemistry. I did that, However, 289 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: if I want to scratch. 290 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: It, Okay, I haven't always been like that. I always been. 291 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: Why am I the person that isn't healed, isn't forward, 292 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: isn't a good woman? If I do that? 293 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: Well, well no, see this is not judge. Mathis over here, right, 294 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: So don't let my like retort of you know, the 295 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: things that you say be just like the authority, right. 296 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: I just mean, like I only believe and that that's 297 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: sort of love that in composes everything that I desire 298 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: at that present time. And I feel so fulfilled, so intrigued, 299 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: so you know, disinterested in everybody else that I'm really 300 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: like locked in this human And it's not predicated. It's 301 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,359 Speaker 3: not predicated on beauty, it's not predicated on sexual chemistry. 302 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: It's just my attachment. It's like my feeling that this 303 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: person just their presence as value to my life and 304 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: when I get when I get in. And now, some 305 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: of these bubbles with women last six weeks, some of 306 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: them last six months. I had won that last like 307 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: three and a half years. But I have never been 308 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: a cheater because I only I only met with women 309 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: and only agreed to monogamy in my mind because I 310 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: was fulfilled and I didn't want nothing else. 311 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask you that question though, because 312 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: you said some can last six days, six weeks, three years, whatever. 313 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: But so are you saying that once you are no 314 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: longer fulfilled, that relationship is out so that you don't 315 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: cheat everybody, thinking that's what I was. 316 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Feel me so that next. 317 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: Bitch, you know, I take my shoes off so I 318 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: can be comfortable enough to be vulnerable. Okay, I'll be 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: grounded myself. 320 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: No, for real, after the six months or even three 321 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: and a half yearn after the three that's a good commitment. 322 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: That's when six months, I feel like there's a lot 323 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: of our average kind of dating. Three and a half years, 324 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: at what point is it something else, someone else, or 325 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: something starts lacking that you didn't see before? Because to me, 326 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: it's like I don't want to get on a high 327 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: horse and say I made this huge commitment to somebody, 328 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: then I'm able to change my. 329 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: Mind, I think. For I think having emotional intelligence right 330 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: lets me know when the woman that I'm dealing with personally, 331 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: don't like me no more. You know what when they 332 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: start sucking a teeth, start complaining, Like when I meet 333 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: a woman, I'm probably so mesmerized by her visually that 334 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: I come up and make some ridiculous sort of thing, 335 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: like you know, my first pickup line was cutting to 336 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: the chase. It's like, how, my name is Mike, I'm 337 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: thirty one years old, I don't have no kids, I'm 338 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: an author, I'm a publisher. Can I take you to dinner? 339 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: And then sometimes I'd be like I got a good 340 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: credit score and no felonies, etc. 341 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: Etc. 342 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: Right, and then it'd be like yes, kind of get 343 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: to the yes, and then from that day every day 344 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: after that, I'm on you, and it's like, you know, 345 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: I guess I was love bombing. My therapist would say 346 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: I was love bombing before love bombing existed. But it's 347 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: only a bomb if it actually explodes and if people die. 348 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: If not, I'm just a hundred from the start, and 349 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm one hundred until a moment, right. I don't like 350 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: to be disappointed. I tell people when I meet them, 351 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: I say I don't. I have problems of forgiveness that 352 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: are deeper than this. You like, I just met you, 353 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: but I've already struggled with forgiveness and I'm working on that. 354 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: So please don't put me in a position where I 355 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: might have to forgive you, because I'm not sure regardless 356 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: of how much fun we have, if when that moment comes, 357 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: I'll be able to do it. 358 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: So you start to switch up, you're saying. 359 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. I mean, things will go through, 360 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: something happened, well, things go good, and sometimes it's like, 361 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's fun, it's new, it's fresh, it's clean, 362 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: and then after a while, like you know how when 363 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: you live with a person, it's like, damn, it's not 364 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: the nigga I used to just date, right, I mean, 365 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: and then the wax wears off of people, right, myself included. 366 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: But that's with everyone. I think the problem with that 367 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: too is something you just said is I don't like 368 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: to be disappointed by people and. 369 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: Close to me, right, but when the ways just messed 370 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 3: up my order, that's right. 371 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: But regardless, I think that that's what a lot of 372 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: us do in dating or in finding partnership. We literally 373 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: go into something with these high level of expectations of 374 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: a person and in partnership and and what we want. 375 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: We have all these things and we want them, we 376 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: want all the boxes ticks off, However, wempletely remove the 377 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: fact that this person is human. Nigga's gonna fuck up, 378 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: people are gonna suck up. Not everyone's gonna be I also. 379 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: Think, just to be a little hotepy, but I actually 380 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: think forgiveness is like the foundation anal of being able 381 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: to be loyal. So you're saying, like, don't put me 382 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: in a position to like. 383 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: Now when I say I have to forgive you, it's 384 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: not because when you actually just text you and you 385 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: probably had a conversation on a Wednesday while you were 386 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: at the hairdresser, right when I say forgive me, bro, 387 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: it's like you're doing so. 388 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, and I think you see 389 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: this is how much monogamy. Wait, the fact that that 390 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: came out of your mouth for me, I don't even think. 391 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: And maybe because that's not the foundation of the loyalty 392 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: in my relationship. Sure, my shit is like, were you 393 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: not showing up for me? Were you not keeping me focused? 394 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: I've too seen your parents. Were you not keeping up 395 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: with my mama, making sure we're good our family, like, 396 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: this is what was boyfriend here? You got to guess? 397 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: I think I'll say this. My boyfriend has only had 398 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: one girlfriend before me, right, so he really doesn't really 399 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: look at it like I've had a bunch of boyfriends. 400 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: I need to say that if the wind blows anyway, 401 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: you're her boyfriend. 402 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: I realize. Literally, I used to say, boyfriend is someone 403 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: who three months, let's be exclusive, your my boyfriend. I'm 404 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: not in a relationship. It was like, no, we basically exclusive, Like, 405 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: let's just only date each other seriously to see if 406 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: this is it. And now I'm starting to see that 407 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: boyfriend can be deeper than that. And while you're saying, 408 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: do we need a pit stop before marriage? Yeah? Are 409 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: you good at this? Right now? Are you good at 410 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: being my boyfriend? Now? Before I make a lie? 411 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: Since when did meet and other humans become a talent show? 412 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh? What do you mean I mean when I said exclusive? 413 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: No? Are you good at this? He wants to when 414 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: did dating? 415 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: I think as a man, I think as another human 416 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: that encounters you. I'm just supposed to witness your movie. 417 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: You feel me? I think when we interact with each other, 418 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: it's just like flashes of light that that hit each other. 419 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: Like I'm not. I'm not supposed to come here ready 420 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: to serve or audition in all of my tricks. You're 421 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: supposed to watch me and my manhood. 422 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: I was just thinking, you do men not expect women 423 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: to do exactly that, though, But I mean I don't. 424 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: I was before I walked in this door. I'm like, 425 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: I'm showing up too. 426 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Well. 427 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't mean exchanging service. What I mean 428 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: is like, I don't think I need to demonstrate my 429 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: capabilities to you directly for you to realize if I 430 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: have them or not. 431 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: I do, Yes, yes, yes you do. 432 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm not about that you're going to be a good father, Yeah, 433 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: You're going to be a good partner or yeah No, No, I. 434 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Need to see it like you though. 435 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: You like the car that I have, the house that 436 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: I have, the job that I have, the relationships with 437 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: my family and my friends in my community that I 438 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 3: already have could be No, I mean, I just mean, 439 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: like all of these things matter, right, Okay? Where is 440 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: my box spring in relation to my bed? Is it 441 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: on the floor? Does it have like a frame around it? 442 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: Do I have hands hooels and disimpacting? Do I have bleach. 443 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 444 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: There are other things to consider. 445 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: But there's a myriad of things to consider. But how 446 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: the way those things do I have to demonstrate? No, 447 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: do I have to demonstrate to your benefit for you 448 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: to prove that I have those capabilities to me? 449 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: To me, here's the thing. The way you show up 450 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: with your family is one way. The way you show 451 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: up at work is another. The way you maintain your 452 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: household is another. However, the way that men show up 453 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: in relationships and how they treat a woman is going 454 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: to be different than how they show up with their 455 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: homeboys and every which way in their lives. A talent show, 456 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: and you know what, it was testing me too. 457 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: So you swallowing before the ring. 458 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm swallowing. I'm looking ass, I'm sucking balls I'm 459 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: doing that's crazy. But let me just say this too. 460 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: When you mentioned like a test before marriage. 461 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard one other person to say this besides him, 462 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: but I was kind of feeling like, you know, when 463 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: you're you know, and women, we all go through this. 464 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: Are we together not together yet? And do he need 465 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: to ask me or whatever? Right? And after commitment he said, 466 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: if you thinks to me, like I really needed to 467 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: see all these emotions out of you anger, upset, not 468 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: just you angry? Are anger at me? Yeah? Well, who 469 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: the fuck are you when you're mad? When you're happy, like. 470 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: When you're drunk? 471 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think you can figure that out that quick. 472 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: You really got to see phases. I agree, Yes, you 473 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, but. 474 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: Do I have to own you during these phases? Or 475 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: can I just witness you wow in these moments? Like 476 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: why does there like a lot of people say when 477 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: I be like Mike, I mean they be like Mike, 478 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: how can I know if he's a husband material if 479 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: he's not my boyfriend? I just mean, like your ownership 480 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: to each other in terms of like your ability to 481 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: freely like interact with other humors. I feel like a 482 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: lot of people are gonna be like you know, in 483 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: their late thirties early forties, and then to start adding 484 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: up their boyfriends now hopefully it. 485 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: Is they had once. 486 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm good, Okay, so not for some people. 487 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: Some people they get to this point right. And I 488 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 3: started to notice it, Like when I was in my 489 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: mid thirties and I was dating women who were also 490 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: in their mid thirties, but their intentions kind of changed. 491 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: It's like, Mike, I want you to come in and 492 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: I want you to prove to me that your husband 493 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: material because I'm thirty six. I'm thirty seven, I got 494 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: great hair on my kuchi, and I'm ready to settle down. 495 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: My periods ain't coming like how they're supposed to. 496 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: My mom is on. 497 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: Some shit, like cause she's seventy and she don't know 498 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: if she gonna see grandkids. So no, I'm not trying 499 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: to go to turks with you. I'm trying to sit 500 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: down and do like couples counseling. I'm like, I just 501 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: met you four months ago. I don't even know what 502 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: you like in the wintertime because we only you know 503 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 504 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: Get that out. So to your point, you just said 505 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: something about why can't we mingle a date with other 506 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: people or whatever it's like, But then to put the 507 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: height of as if that was very casual, to put 508 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: the height of loyalty. Then when you're in a committed relationship, 509 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: like no, I think mingling and doing all that stuff 510 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: means you're not focusing and pouring into me, because at 511 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: the end of the day, most we've. 512 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: Ever been to college. Excuse me, have you ever been 513 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: to college? 514 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: Yes? 515 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: Have you ever taken more than one semester at a 516 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: time because you have to come home and study math 517 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 3: and religion and social studies and everything. 518 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I class. 519 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: I mean, but what I'm saying is I think the 520 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: human brain is capable of focusing on two things. You 521 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: have a two bubble gum and walk at the same time, 522 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: all of these, all of these attributes and things. A 523 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: lot of times we don't. 524 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: If you're focusing on two things at the same. 525 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: Time, how purposeful can you be? 526 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: How intentional are you being? If you're focusing on those 527 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: things at the same time. I'm not looking at Mandy 528 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: when I'm talking, so if I took my eyes off 529 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: of you, that would mean I'm not that interested or 530 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: serious about a conversation. I'm very intentional when I do things. 531 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: I pour into people when I'm talking to them, speaking 532 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: to them. If my attention diverts, I'm out of it. 533 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: So it's not like both of these girls are sitting 534 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 3: on my couch at the same time. All I mean 535 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: to say is like, there there are the same way 536 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: a woman can be a mother, a student and an 537 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: employee in a day. Is the same way that I 538 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: could go to lunch with you and have a forty 539 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: five minute phone call with Holo. 540 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: Hold on, I want to get to the Manila ship. 541 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: But you know what this sounds like, Mike, You might 542 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: not be as monogamous as you motherfucking thing because you 543 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: are here one. 544 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: Juggle different you selling is given it. You don't want 545 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: to juggle b I already let me know that you 546 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: had a little home that you is alone after. 547 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: That hotel. 548 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: I want to get into our vanilla, share our vanilliha 549 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: It sex in the news, and we talked about cohabitating, 550 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: living with other people just a little bit. And there 551 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: is a woman on a Reddit thread who is letting 552 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: everyone know that she is divorcing her husband because he 553 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: screws jar lids on two tights. Now, I want to 554 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: get into this just a little bit because within the 555 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: reddit thread people felt as though he was doing it 556 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: in ten and that's the reason why she wants to 557 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: divorce him. But also she feels like, am I the 558 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: asshole because I'm allowing this little minute thing to make 559 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: me want to divorce my husband. So sometimes I literally 560 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: feel insane for being so upset over jarred Lin's It's 561 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: been a recurring cycle over the past five years, and 562 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: it's just the thing that would escalate until a major 563 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: mountdown and freak out, screaming frustration, seemingly craze what happened 564 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: just because I couldn't open a lid. Then it would 565 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: get a little better for a while, then it would 566 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: slowly become an issue again, just getting worse and worse 567 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: until I reached the breaking point, she said five. 568 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: Years, because you know, when that little shit, I feel like. 569 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: It's something else. I feel like it gotta be something else. 570 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: I feel like the dick she's getting on this side 571 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: is something else. Do you think that's what it is? 572 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Okay? 573 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask that in terms of being 574 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: someone for six weeks, six months, three years, or in 575 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: any of your past relationships, has there, at any point 576 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: over time or even in the beginning, been something so 577 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: minute about her and that you're like, I can't be 578 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: with this person because they do this little thing and 579 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: it bothers me. 580 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: So fucking much. 581 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: Like I'm not gonna lie I started dating a guy 582 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: or not dating y'all know, I just be fucking these thinkers. 583 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: But one guy would come over. What I mean, I 584 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: dated the shut up. Anyways, there was one guy that 585 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: would come over and never put the fucking seat down. 586 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh I hate that bitch, I literally, and then I 587 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: had to start talking to him like he was my child. 588 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: First off, this is my house. This is the house 589 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: of a woman. You going to use the bathroom and 590 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: leaving the toilet seat up. One time after we got 591 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: done fucking went to the bathroom and just went to 592 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: sit down on my normal fucking seat and almost fell 593 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: into it. That was the last straw because he didn't 594 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: put the fucking seat down. Now, the dick was good, 595 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: but literally, him not putting the seat down in my 596 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: apartment was like, I ain't fucking with this, Niga nomore, because. 597 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: I already told I really feel like that's no home training. 598 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: Is that? 599 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: Is that what it is? 600 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: Cause that's how the man be chivalrous and lift the 601 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: seat up and keep it. 602 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: Up and keep it up right, Like now I'm judging here. 603 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: I feel like you don't do that. I feel like 604 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: I feel like you look like a man that pussed 605 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: to see you put the seat down after you piss right, 606 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: you're thinking about it, you don't you don't seem like 607 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: a guy that would leave it up in a woman's house. 608 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: You just don't. 609 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: I don't really go over women's houses, Okay, Okay. Two 610 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: thousand and nine, I woke up. I went to a 611 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: women's house. I woke up and one of my good 612 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: friends was at the foot of the bed. I did 613 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: not know it was his baby mom. And I've never 614 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: been back to that. 615 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't a good friend. If you ain't know whose baby 616 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: mama was. 617 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: Well no, I mean, but it was a different sort 618 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: of thing, like I don't be checking for you who 619 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: your baby mom is, you know, and niggas hiby baby 620 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: mom talk about that and I am saying and I'm not. 621 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm not. I spent like a hundred days he ever done, 622 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: no story, had the son, he had his son with. 623 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: It was really bad. I seen her in the club. 624 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: I ain't see her in like four or five years, right, 625 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: And I'm like, damn, Like I don't normally go home, 626 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: but I'll go home with you because I've been trying 627 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 3: to get at you for years now. 628 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: So we go home and how you been trying to 629 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: get her for years? 630 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: Well, like it's the line outside. 631 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 632 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: So I get to you when I get to you. 633 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: But I finally got to her, and then I was like, 634 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, I'm. 635 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: Is this l A. 636 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: No, this is Philly? 637 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: This is that is Wait? 638 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: Did this happen in l A? 639 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,239 Speaker 3: No? 640 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: This was this was Philly? 641 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: And wait he just said, hey, Mike, like, what was 642 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: the interaction. 643 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: With damn bro? 644 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: For real? 645 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: That's crazy? 646 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: Was it because she got some dick last night? Or 647 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: was it because it was yours? 648 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: This is mix? 649 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: And then the kid was there. 650 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: The kid was there, like, wait, the kid and the 651 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: kid was with the baby daddy. 652 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: The kid was with the baby daddy. She was so 653 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: fried that she didn't even remember that young boy was 654 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: coming home the next day or that her baby father 655 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: even had keys. She was just so oh my god, 656 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: my this is and she actually it did happen to la. 657 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna put that on Philly. 658 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: You saying this? Tell me, I don't remember what show 659 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: he was watching another night? Was some crazy baby mama 660 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: should have it? And I looked at this nigga, you 661 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: would get mad about something my motherfucker can't do. I'm 662 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: looking at him, Yeah, putting the seat shoes. Would motherfucking 663 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: leave me with a baby, bitch, he was like God, 664 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I never gonna have this shit happened 665 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: to me. Hell no, only one break. I'm having this medio. 666 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, baby mama, baby daddy drama. 667 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: I wish it on nobody. 668 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: Yo. This is my last girlfriend September last year. I 669 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: was in love. She was beautiful. I feel like the 670 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: baby father just wasn't going for it. He was one 671 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: of them. Over my dead body. Niggas. 672 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: Oh what's your sign? 673 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: Dollars? 674 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: We're not gonna do that. 675 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: I know. 676 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: That's why said dollar sign. 677 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: If I if my emotions are striking her, you're if 678 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: you not a pcey email nigga? 679 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: What are you you want to show? I'm gonna show 680 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: you my coach star for ten dollars. 681 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: I don't go to tuck about the other ones. What's 682 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: the main? What's your birthday? 683 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna scorpio? 684 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: Oh your water signed? Okay water? 685 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Now that's what we're doing. I don't know with at me. 686 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: Scorpios are from what I've heard. Obviously we all know 687 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: their amazing lovers. They also are very thank you. They 688 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of like, well, they could be considered deceitful or 689 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: guarded because they they don't really show. 690 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: Who they are, that's given gem. 691 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: But the water means they pour out so many. 692 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: I'm a river, you know what. I Am not playing 693 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: they go way used to. So I said the toilet 694 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: seate real quick. Is there anything that both of you 695 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: feel like it's so small that you wouldn't continue dating 696 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: somebody if they did? 697 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: I was going to agree with you that one. What's 698 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: yours with women? No, I think it's hygiene, hygiene that 699 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: that's not small. 700 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: That is actually hygiene, that is a part of hygiene. 701 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: See, I'd be like, oh de with it. Like I 702 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: think a lot of my early loves were like super 703 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: super neat, you know, like like they really loved themselves 704 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: and they was when they was young girls. 705 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: So now it's like, damn, bro. 706 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: You think lack of hygiene is a lack of a 707 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: woman's security or love of herself? Yeah, or just or 708 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 2: just maybe not? 709 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: No, I think I think people that love themselves with 710 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: it depends. 711 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: On the age an age, the age like you know, 712 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: like it's a lot of young girls that don't be showered. 713 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: Like you can see him at a day party, then 714 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: you can see him at the bar around half I 715 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: mean you can't. 716 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm joking for party, where are we going? 717 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: I ain't a little function out like you got. You 718 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I can't see you at two 719 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: pm at the brunch at the same leg as the 720 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: two am Hookah Johnny, and you will twelve hours since. 721 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: First off, I live in New York. Ain't nobody commuting 722 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: from the boroughs back home back to the borough No, 723 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I go Philly. 724 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll say this when it comes to cleanliness and like 725 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: seeing if someone's showered, if they're kept up. I've spent 726 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: time with friends, man, with anybody, and I've kind of 727 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: noticed the showering habits and I don't want to refresh. Okay, 728 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: I noticed that. To me, summertime, outdoor, all day shit, 729 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: that don't count. But I do think that when you 730 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: don't make it a happen. I even notice teeth brushing 731 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: with men or people that are visiting. But I offer 732 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: you a toothbrush and you ain't using it just because 733 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: you stay the night, even homegirls on the couch, I'm like, girl, 734 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: that's right there, you ain't and I have the good 735 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: ship the Marvin's toothpaste. 736 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't want to go deep dive on shower, right, 737 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: it's really about the whole aesthetic. It's like, how do 738 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: you lotion regularly? Like what's your morning routine? Does it 739 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: involve a toothbrush and mouthwash? Damn, you got the kills 740 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: for the face. Like that's excellent. 741 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: You know who don't be showering that much? I believe 742 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: it the white one of ours? 743 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: Who's one of ours? The waste speed girls don't do that. 744 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: Don't talk about the wastebeed girls do. 745 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Not do that. I don't know. 746 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: Youboty, get on the instant where everybody know. 747 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: That's my type of nigga. 748 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: And I like them girls, the waste speed guys. 749 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the girls and the guys going in 750 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: the hind that they're kind of saying, right, the waste 751 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: speed girls. I don't know if it's because everybody using 752 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: deodamant that isn't necessarily store bought, give it up, get 753 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: the cancer them girl. I go to a little black part. 754 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. The essentials are not ascension, 755 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: those oils ain't doing it, and some of them been 756 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: a little funky. I think we need to go with 757 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: the girl who's slabbing it off. 758 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: Do you also think maybe it's they're hairy and like 759 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: they don't shave in the same places like the under 760 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: arms be under They may. 761 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: Be too listen to this podcast, but one of you 762 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: bit just in here. No, no, no, because we've had 763 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: some people be like, oh, like you guys talk about 764 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: girl shall put that ship on La Merk Park in 765 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: l a ship bro just buy the shade, butter, don't 766 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: buy the deodor. And he's a liar. 767 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: Please get the aluminum. 768 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: How do you want to live with you? Stop it? 769 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: No bullshit, bullshit. 770 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: The hotel niggas wiping them bitches. 771 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: Up and they like it. I don't lie. 772 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 2: They aren't funky. It's given a flight. 773 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: The cleanest w HOTEP that I know personally, it's probably Wolf. 774 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: Wolf works at w TFBDI Students New York and Mandy 775 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: and I work with him too. I ain't never smelled him. However, 776 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: the way he be talking seems like he don't seem. 777 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: Like he don't watch that PC. 778 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: Don't he seem like one of them? He do? You know? 779 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 3: If my sister called me and told me that her 780 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: husband still puts the jars on tight after five years, 781 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 3: I would tell her to leave this nigga. Really sorry 782 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: we had to circle back. Well, no, I mean I 783 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: just think. I just think that, like I'm a principal 784 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: sort of guy, Like the action could be like, you know, 785 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 3: Sharlotte was fucked, but it's the principle behind the action 786 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: that carries up, you know, so for five years. 787 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 2: I don't care, especially she's expressed it. 788 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: If I've expressed it. It's your inability to change, you know, 789 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: or to listen. 790 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 2: So I was just I was, well, I. 791 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: Mean people like I hate the word listen because listen 792 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: only involves your ear drums then, and you can't turn 793 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: off your sound, Like I hate when women when you 794 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 3: argue with a woman and she'd be like did you 795 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: hear me? Like you're not even listening to me? Like 796 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: I wish there was a button guy could create that 797 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: I could just mute circle. 798 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: But then there's comprehension. I was just walking the park 799 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: with my homegirl, and there's conversations right now where we 800 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: think a proposal is coming. So we're literally talking about 801 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: what the ringo look like. 802 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 3: Right. 803 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: She don't want nothing gaudy, she said, all diamonds are 804 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: blood diamonds, so she don't want a real like nothing like, 805 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: no real diamond. 806 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm good, but this she won't have been made by 807 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: a ten year old kid. Give me, she said, literally? 808 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: Literally did? 809 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: She said? 810 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 2: I don't wear silver, saw, I want a gold band, 811 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: something with gold. She said, if he proposes, If he 812 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: proposes and it's not a gold band and it's a 813 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: real diamond, I know that he's doing this for him 814 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 2: and not for me, and that can't be my husband. 815 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh, I guess that's the 816 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 2: way to start. 817 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: But no disrespect to your homegirl. Yeah, And I have 818 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts about this, Okay, I am so 819 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: tired of the stipulations that women put on men with tiny, 820 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: minute things. I'm gonna tell you why. First of all, 821 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to engagement rings. Right, I don't know 822 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: if she verbade him said the words I want gold. 823 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: All I wear is gold. 824 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: She said she didn't want white gold. She knows that 825 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 2: white gold looks silver. 826 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: Right. If a man knows I wear gold, My man 827 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: knows I wear gold, but happened to get me a 828 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: silver ring, right, just for context. Traditionally speaking, most wedding 829 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: bands are white gold or silver. Yes, that man is 830 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: probably in the store super excited talking to the clerk, 831 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: figuring out what would work like. No, not the person 832 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: for you. You know what, this person made a choice 833 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: to do this. You know what changeable. Hold on, bitch, 834 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm triggered. You know what's pissed me off? On flowers? No, 835 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: it's not even flowers clothes. 836 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 2: The birthday. The birthday fucking party. When I said I 837 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 2: did not want a birthday party, I said I wanted 838 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 2: to go to a spot, I did not want friends around. 839 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: I did not want a group of people around. And 840 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: what did he do? Throw me a goddamn surprise party 841 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: with all my friends. And literally I was pissed because 842 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: I literally the one thing I said I didn't want 843 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: you went and did, and he made it about well, 844 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 2: I've never done this for someone. He made it about him, 845 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: the effort that he put into it, the people he 846 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: had to reach out to, and it was just like, 847 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: fuck me. But that was literally a part of what 848 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 2: I was saying, like to me in a relationship. 849 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: This is really asshole though. 850 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, but so is somebody who goes 851 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 3: in and does is not even wise enough to know 852 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 3: my shorty like goal. So I'm gonna get her the 853 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: gold situation, get me what I want? Like this, this 854 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 3: whole ceremony of courting to ring to wedding is all 855 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 3: about her movie. This is her movie, and I don't 856 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 3: care if I don't care if the only thing that 857 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: she picked out about this thing was the color cut 858 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: and clarity of her ring. 859 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: Wait you should get that, you guys said, all. 860 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: She does is wear a goal. She never verbade them, 861 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: said she wanted to. No, no, no. 862 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 2: This was a conversation that they've already had, so literally 863 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: we were having the conversation and she was like, bro, 864 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: Like a part of me is like if my ring 865 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: is not gold. After we've had this conversation, I know 866 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: the ring is for you and it's not for me. 867 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: You're not being considerate of what I want. You're not 868 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: listening to the things I want, And are those characteristics 869 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: that I want in a party moving forward? Like that's 870 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 2: the thing we talked about the as small as just 871 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: screwing the jars on. But to me, in a relationship, 872 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: I would love to know that my partner is considerate 873 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 2: of the things that would make me upset that I 874 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: don't like that I like that would make me happy 875 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 2: and knowing that those were things in my last relationship 876 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: that almost seemed intentional. I don't want anyone. 877 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to be in a. 878 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: Relationship with anyone who I feel like, intentionally now is 879 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 2: playing in my face or wants to hurt me. Those flowers, 880 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: the birthday party, A lot of things I felt like 881 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: were intentional. I don't want to tell I don't want you. 882 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: I guess I don't want you. Gesture it's hard to 883 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: go from Here's the thing with tightening a lid, right, 884 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's something that annoys somebody. But nice gestures 885 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: as parties, flowers, rings, those are difficult. 886 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 4: It's hard to talk about your ex because he's. 887 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 2: So trash, all these niggas is no no, no, really 888 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: no he is he is, and his fake cancer. But 889 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: oh we're gonna get into it because I just do 890 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: deep for a horrible decision. 891 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 3: I want. 892 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what you thought about you last night 893 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: because this girl was in tears crying about how a 894 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: man lied to her about a sickness, and I was 895 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: I thought I was listening to It's awful, and I 896 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to bring up another person 897 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: right now, while his whole crime. But like these niggas. 898 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: These niggas is to say that, to say, when nice 899 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: gestures are done and maybe someone didn't do it to 900 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: your liking, there's this thing of like, damn, well, what 901 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: can I do to make you happy? You know what 902 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean? Like the other person can feel like fuck, 903 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: will I never match up more? It could seem so 904 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: minute and selfish. So that's why I kind of bring 905 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 1: up that other point. 906 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: By the way, I ain't never used the word my 907 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 2: new as much as we just did in the last 908 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 2: ten minutes. I don't even use that in my regular thing, 909 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: like my regular cab Blarry minute. Anyway, before we get 910 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: into a horrible decision because I ran into my ex 911 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: and I want to talk about soul ties and soulmates 912 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 2: and negative energy. I would love for you to give 913 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 2: a sex tip. This is our horror derve. Do you 914 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 2: have a sex tip that you can give to our audience? 915 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 3: Do I have a sex tip? 916 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: Yes? 917 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 2: Two in the pink, all right, I'm not like two 918 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 2: two in the pink, one in the stink. Oh okay, 919 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 2: you've never heard them? Yeah, yeah, But I just don't 920 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: know how you would do it. It's like this actually 921 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: is thumb normally, Wait, that's what is it like? Right, Well, 922 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: I could never do that because both my thumbs be long, 923 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: so I don't. 924 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: I don't. I gotta shot my thumb in the butt 925 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: because it just feels like just enough GIRs. 926 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy. I never put a thumb in 927 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 2: the butt. I know, like future said, I'm gonna put 928 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: my thumb and uh, but I don't even think I've 929 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: had a thumb in my butt. If you been niggas 930 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 2: over the thought I had it. So niggas put thumbs 931 00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: in the bus, but I don't be putting. 932 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 4: They put them on the bus because it's easy with 933 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 4: the grip. 934 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: Oh and I don't be gripping. Okay, I don't be 935 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 2: gripping niggas. I put these in the butt. Like even 936 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 2: it really actually starts with the middle finger. I do 937 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: middle finger in the butt, and then when it's all consensual, 938 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: it is all consensual. But because oftentimes in the air, 939 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: their legs are in the air, I'm right here, so 940 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: legs are in the air, my head is on their dick, 941 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: and now I'm like probably going down below. This is 942 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: the longest finger and so to me, that's the one 943 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: that the middle finger goes in first, and then I 944 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: get that. 945 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: Hold on. 946 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 3: I'm not lying. 947 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm telling you, I just hold on. No, no, no, both, 948 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: But I. 949 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: Gotta make it way if we ain't gotten a love nearby. 950 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 2: So I I wait it up. I waited up, make 951 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: sure that the buddle hole opening, get it in, and 952 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 2: then I will probably really bring it back out and 953 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: spit on both fingers. 954 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: And they try to fit two figures in there. 955 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know do too. Anyway, let's get into 956 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: the horrible decision because I want to share this story 957 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 2: with y'all because the time came. Uh Vinnie asked you. 958 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: About it when we were in France, and I. 959 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 2: Like, demons exists with these niggas. So went to the 960 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 2: layout when I got back from Okac, and as y'all know, 961 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: it has been now May third, twenty twenty three is 962 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: when I broke up with this nigga. So it has 963 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: been now a year and two months. You know why 964 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: I know because we went on Breakfast Club two days later. 965 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: That's the only reason why I know, and I talked 966 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 2: about that nigga, and when he wrote that email month, 967 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 2: he was like, you can even go on the breakfast 968 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: club and not talk about me cause you are you 969 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 2: became color. 970 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, maybe if your goofy ass wasn't out hope. 971 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 3: The show. 972 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: No, I would never bring anything. 973 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh I'm not gonna lie to you, Andy. I love 974 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: to sit now right. 975 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: I would do a chance, no receipt and I got 976 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: don't do that, oh bitch, and do I thought? 977 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: But I like you hold on. 978 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: So I'm at the layout and every for the listeners, 979 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: new or old, y'all know, this is my first real relationships. 980 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: So we were together for three years and when we 981 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: broke up. Have not seen him since, have not run 982 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 2: into him, have not been in the same space as him, 983 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 2: thank god, until the layout. So I'm at the layout. 984 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: Mind you, he has not been there the last two 985 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: years I've gone. So this is not a place at all. 986 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to see him. So I'm with 987 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 2: my friends, and because I refuse to use a porter potty, 988 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna go to this little wine bar 989 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: to use their bathroom and get me another beer and 990 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk back. So we're walking down the hill 991 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,959 Speaker 2: and we're going to walk around to leave the park. 992 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 2: My heart is beating now even just sharing it. And 993 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: I'm talking to my homegirl, and I look up and 994 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: I min y'all, I don't even know how to gasp 995 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 2: in real life, but I gassed so loud and I stopped, 996 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: and I'm literally like this, like whole body freeze PTSD 997 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: like a motherfucking hit me. So I see him and 998 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm with my best friend Crystal, and I go like 999 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 2: this and I freeze. Once I go, I literally feel 1000 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: every vein every muscle in my body, like literally it 1001 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: felt like electric shocks. I felt it. Look look at 1002 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: me shaking. It reached each fingertip, look each fingertip. I 1003 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: felt to go all the way down my legs into 1004 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: each toes. And I stood there and I like quickly 1005 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: turn around. Immediately I have a fucking panic attack. My 1006 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 2: eyes start watering and I'm like hyperventilating, and I'm like, 1007 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, that's him. 1008 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 2: Like even sharing this story right now, the way that 1009 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 2: my body felt, a human being has never made me 1010 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: feel this way in my life. This is just off 1011 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: the side of him a year later. Mind you y'all know, 1012 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: couldn't even be around niggas last year for a long 1013 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 2: part without being triggered, without crying. 1014 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: Without being reminded of him. And so I saw him and. 1015 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 2: I go like, we gotta go, we gotta go, we 1016 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 2: gotta go. So I called Antonet and I'm like, bitch, 1017 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 2: I just saw this nigga. She's like, you can go 1018 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: if you want. Do you want me to come get you. 1019 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, there, no, he did. It was all psychological. 1020 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: He's never he's never laid his hands on me. He cheated, 1021 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: but I found out the cheating after the fact, and 1022 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 2: but psychologically it was. We broke up thirteen times, and 1023 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: I ended up looking into narcissism. But literally, anytime I 1024 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 2: had something good happening, he broke up. Anytime I questioned 1025 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 2: him about anything, he broke up with me to the 1026 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: point where I stopped questioning because I just wanted us 1027 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 2: to be on the high for as long as possible. 1028 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: I hope you get the cans. 1029 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 2: Listen me too, bitch. I ain't even gonna hold you 1030 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 2: so so listen. 1031 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: So I'm like, we gotta, like, let me tell you something. 1032 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 3: Listen. 1033 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: Why did we euthanize dogs and shit, Oh, bitch, I 1034 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: will not even euthanized. You know, the nigga eats neutered, 1035 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: but neoter to where you topped the and the dick. 1036 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 2: I wanted to walk around like Kendall. 1037 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? And this has maybe 1038 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 3: not so much for you, so don't. Okay, take it 1039 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 3: in a personal way, but how how much bill are 1040 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 3: we going to keep giving co stars in these sad movies? 1041 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: No? No, no, I don't I don't want the bell. I'm 1042 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. 1043 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 4: Wait, what you're saying, Mandy needs to say no, no, no no. 1044 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: And I've taken responsibility. And what I'm saying is seeing 1045 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 2: this man after this long and what yes, mind you 1046 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 2: I've I've went through therapy. I'm very aware that I 1047 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: chose to go back all those times. I chose to 1048 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 2: keep wanting to see, which is also weird because from 1049 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 2: a humane point, right, if you go back to taking 1050 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 2: us out of relationships, we're also taught to see the 1051 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 2: good in someone. We're taught to forgive, We're taught to 1052 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 2: believe that someone can be a better virgial thing. 1053 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: Right. I won't say that he is. One of my 1054 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: good friends is single right now and he has been 1055 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: in dumping girls that want more with him. I do 1056 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: it all now. I said this to me, man, and 1057 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: my man was like, but why doesn't he just like 1058 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: reiterated to them like I don't understand, Like now he 1059 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: got no holes because he keeps letting them go. I 1060 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is the sign to me of 1061 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: a really good person. You and we me and him 1062 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: had a serious talk about it, me in my homework right, 1063 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, I can't take the fucking 1064 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: disappointment with these girls anymore. They're let down. 1065 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 2: After I tell them for the third fucking time. 1066 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something. If he wasn't shit, 1067 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: you start to mold this person. You know they need you, 1068 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: you know they don't want to let you go. That 1069 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: is a bad person. 1070 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 3: But guess who gives thirteen chances and guess who gets block? No? 1071 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: No, no, So what he knows the thing though, when 1072 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 1: someone I'm not trying to call you week, just let 1073 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: me get the oh. When someone is in the dumps 1074 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: of love, right, they let you go, they're like fuck, 1075 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: they feel good for a second and then you come 1076 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,479 Speaker 1: back and you're manipulate. I'm gonna do this right, baby, 1077 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: this and that you know I'm already weak for this 1078 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: person in this moment. 1079 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 2: And that's the Stockholm not only no one can make 1080 00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: you feel better than you. 1081 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm just supposed to go to another nigga, you're gonna 1082 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: think about you, go to her friends, go on vacation. No, 1083 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: there's only one thing that pacifies the problem. 1084 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 2: It's like drugs, but not only the Stockholm syndrome of that. 1085 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: I really love about it. Hold on, but I also 1086 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: very intentional when they're no, they're hurting. 1087 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 2: It's not only that, it's also for a lot of us. 1088 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 2: And this is men, men and women. We are also 1089 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 2: taught that marriage, as well as relationships, take work. They're 1090 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: not easy. Everything's not going to be perfect. If it's 1091 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: a love worth having, you have to fight for it. 1092 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 2: So all of these ideas, with this being my first relationship, 1093 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 2: a part of me and seeing a lot of my 1094 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 2: friends and other relationships and put up with bullshit, a 1095 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 2: part of me was like, okay, I'm easily. As soon 1096 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,959 Speaker 2: as the nigga pissed me off, I'm out that bitch 1097 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 2: on to the next one. So a part of me 1098 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I'm in a real relationship. 1099 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: Let me fight for this, let me show him I 1100 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 2: do love him, let me let me take him back 1101 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 2: and forgive him and let, you know, show him that 1102 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: I can be a better partner. And maybe he's trying 1103 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 2: to come back and show that he could be a 1104 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 2: better partner. That's a unfortunately, this fucked up thing. There's 1105 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 2: a song and y'all know it, The ship that you 1106 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 2: come out to, Nigga, the song by Summer Walker. 1107 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: It's always like, uh. 1108 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 2: The hurt song, you know, the one by Summer Walker, and. 1109 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 4: Oh you come out to that? 1110 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: And Summer Walker also singing the most depressing songs of 1111 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: all time and it's literally your cry performing performs picnic, Yes, 1112 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: and that makes me cry. 1113 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes me cry too. That's why I come 1114 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 3: out to it. 1115 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people it brings that emotional worse. 1116 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 3: That's why it's so beautiful. 1117 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: Why do you want to come out to that? 1118 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 3: Because people are emotionless? Thank God for things that actually 1119 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 3: make people feel something, Okay, And this fucking, this numb, ignorant, 1120 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 3: filthy world. 1121 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: So bessy about that song. I was watching Summer Walker 1122 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,439 Speaker 1: like performing on YouTube or something, and all I could 1123 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: think is, I don't really like all the BBL stuff 1124 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: on her. I just think she's so beautiful that I 1125 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: kind of hate sometimes, like what culture has become like 1126 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: listening to music like this bitch looks like a fashion 1127 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: over queen. What the fuck is gon be weird? 1128 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 2: You could get all the ship done in your body 1129 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 2: and these niggas still gonna act up. 1130 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: Bro, don't meddle perfection, all of it injection and it 1131 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter they don't. 1132 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think like I hate that if 1133 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: something goes like anything, any any beauty standard that a 1134 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 3: woman does in excess, don't don't put that back on 1135 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 3: the bros. I think a lot for yourselves and for 1136 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 3: other women, and nobody knows what it's going to do 1137 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 3: to your body, Like everybody when they go to wherever 1138 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 3: they go and they tell them what it's supposed to 1139 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,439 Speaker 3: look like. Uh, you know, there's a lot of things 1140 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 3: that go wrong with making. 1141 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: Don't you do that today? All well, not all, but 1142 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: most there's like a ig We talked about this a 1143 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. I think with Julie Ginger, do you 1144 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: think there's like an internet standard of beauty how the 1145 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: girl will look kind of like an ey? 1146 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's all AI. Now all them bitches don't 1147 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 2: be looking like that. 1148 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 4: Well, I think the point is to look like that 1149 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 4: though filters to get the. 1150 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: I and then you see him in person and they look nuts. 1151 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: I really crazy. 1152 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 4: Shout out to Wai Speeds. Y'all be funny, not unless they. 1153 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: Be naturally beautiful. I want to ask. I want to 1154 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 2: get back to this because after experiencing this, I realized that. 1155 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 2: And I want to bring this up because I used 1156 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: to refer to him as so may. I at one 1157 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 2: point did believe he was my soulmate and having that 1158 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 2: that interaction with my body after just seeing him, made 1159 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 2: me realize there's some level of soul ties. And I 1160 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 2: want to talk about a little bit of soul ties, 1161 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 2: but also energy transference with relationships and casual sex, because 1162 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 2: it's I'm only asking to fight against. I'm only asking 1163 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: this too because we're in LA and I brought up 1164 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 2: you know, I went back into the roller dicks I got, 1165 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 2: I bought. I got a lot about niggas back on 1166 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 2: my line, and so there's a nigga here that they 1167 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 2: never leave. So I was really excited to see this 1168 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 2: one guy here. And we've been back facetiming, back talking. 1169 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 2: You knew I was coming here, and he went ghosts 1170 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 2: the past couple of days before I got here, and 1171 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 2: so he hit me back, and literally I was already 1172 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 2: cause I'm like, nigga, you know I'm coming. I need 1173 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 2: to feel the excitement that I'm coming. And he let 1174 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 2: me know, Sorry, I haven't slept. I've been on a 1175 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 2: three day bench like drinking. And to me, that made 1176 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: me feel like, nigga, you fighting something else. I don't 1177 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: even want that shit inside of me whatever you're battling, 1178 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 2: because no, I'm good. Even though I wanted to get 1179 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 2: in his boot hole, I wasn't even gonna let me 1180 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 2: a three day bitch. Nigga, you have a job. I 1181 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: need to know. No, bitch, it wasn't Friday to Sunday. 1182 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 2: To me, if anybody is like I haven't slept, I've 1183 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 2: been drunk and I've been binging for three days, that's 1184 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,320 Speaker 2: not the type of person I want. 1185 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 3: You never fucked the nigga into loom on Memorial Day weekend. No, 1186 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 3: on the fourth day my Miami Memorial Day weekend, fight weekend, catch. 1187 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: A nigga on the Sunday went through something. The problem 1188 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. 1189 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to transfer like energies with a nigga 1190 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 2: that I think is battling his own demon. 1191 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: I will tell you this, I got a nigga, who's 1192 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 1: there people that maybe aren't drinking or explicitly saying it, it's. 1193 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 2: Still battling, yeah, man, But I don't know about him. 1194 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 2: Let me not know about it, goddamn it. 1195 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. Sometimes when you're on that kind 1196 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: of shiit, what what what you know? 1197 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are too creative with 1198 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 3: their storytelling, And the most dangerous part is most of 1199 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 3: the stories they tell are to themselves, right, And we've 1200 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 3: become so empowered and so free that we think that 1201 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 3: we we can sell, like we can come up with 1202 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 3: our own narrative for basically any sort of situation. Now, 1203 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 3: the beauty in that is because you can prevent yourself 1204 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 3: from being hurt. But the delusion in it is I 1205 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: could hear that same story as a third party, and 1206 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 3: I can say, you know what, in order for me 1207 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 3: to save myself, I'm going to say that I was 1208 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 3: probably upset, honestly that this guy kind of curved me 1209 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 3: and then wasn't prepared for me when I got here. 1210 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 3: So his presentation to me makes me all of a 1211 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 3: sudden go back into my rolodex of excuses and say, 1212 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm so glad this shit didn't work 1213 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 3: out because it's an energy you weren't really caring about. 1214 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no. He might have got that. 1215 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: I get that vendor, but you drink too. No no, no, 1216 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: I do. 1217 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 2: But what's crazy about you even saying that is in 1218 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,720 Speaker 2: my dating currently and in how men have been showing 1219 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 2: up for me recently. In dating, I'm very adamant with 1220 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 2: only giving people the time of day that I feel 1221 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: like deserve it. So, yes, he went on a binger. 1222 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't like the three days or the fact that 1223 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: he went and I feel like keep battling something cool. However, 1224 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 2: in the same breath, I'm also in a place where 1225 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 2: you didn't respond for three days. You didn't roll out 1226 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 2: the red carpet that I'm coming. That's not the treatment 1227 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: from anybody, casual sex or not that I'm seeking. 1228 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I could. 1229 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 2: Say it's one of two things, But yeah, to me, 1230 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 2: I know what I want from a partner or a 1231 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 2: casual sex encounter or friends with benefits, but I don't. 1232 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 3: Really want that first. 1233 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: I get it. 1234 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 3: You started this story off with the with the dick 1235 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 3: roller decks. But it's like it's like it's like when 1236 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 3: you pulled this card out of the dick roller decks, 1237 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 3: you know, not the not the kinetic friendship, like right, 1238 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 3: not the spiritual bond, like you're only you're only flipping 1239 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 3: this thing for like available dick. Yes, And then when 1240 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 3: we pull the dick out right now, it's like I 1241 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 3: want to dress this dick up and have it performed 1242 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 3: for me because I want you to be ready when 1243 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 3: I land showered with with all my favorite snacks by 1244 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 3: the bedside and fucking two gallons. 1245 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: Of loo I have for things you're making me think 1246 00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: of right now. 1247 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 3: But that's the delusion. 1248 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: I won't I want one? Do you need? I want 1249 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: to know when what was the text you sent into 1250 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: I want to bring something up. My man told me 1251 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: about a girl that he fucks with this time of time. 1252 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: Whatever happens right like curly, like if he wants to 1253 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: like fucking random is hit. I travel a lot, so 1254 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: but this is something we discussed again. So he's like, yo, 1255 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: he's like this. 1256 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 3: Girl boyfriend, call him something else. 1257 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't need to call him something else. That's the boyfriend. 1258 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: So he says, this girl was like bugging on him 1259 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: about communication. 1260 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm really seeing here looking at my phone, 1261 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 4: like I. 1262 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: Told you I got to short you, Like I don't. 1263 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: I can't get back to you right now. He's like, 1264 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 1: it was crazy to me that I set this very 1265 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: friends with benefits. If I fuck you, I fuck you 1266 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: relationship with this person. He's like, we're not dating. I've 1267 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 1: never taken her out. It's just been sex. And she 1268 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: was mad that I couldn't write her back quick enough. 1269 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: He said, I don't understand how the standard became communication 1270 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: when I've just been fucking and not doing shit else. 1271 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: He's like, this girl was really bugging on what she 1272 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,919 Speaker 1: thinks she deserves for me, when in reality she never 1273 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: put that I deserve X y Z even before sex. 1274 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: So I want to do well to say people in 1275 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: very casual sexual encounters do not think that they have 1276 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: to have this Like I'm in courtesy. What was courtesy. 1277 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: Can give you? But not. 1278 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: No, bro, like mind you. 1279 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 2: We were face timing when I just had a layover 1280 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Nigga called me three times back to back 1281 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 2: face time and I had to check them the next morning, Like, bro, 1282 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 2: unless you did, I said, you alive nigga, because don't 1283 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 2: you ever call me three times back on respond to 1284 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 2: oh no, it was like multiple texts, let me see, 1285 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 2: let me hold. But see, here's the thing, whether you 1286 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 2: were casually fucking someone, whether your friends with benefits with 1287 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 2: someone to me, and this is where let me grow 1288 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 2: up from how I acted in my twenties to being 1289 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 2: in my thirties. I would like common courtesy, human decency 1290 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: from someone who I don't even have to reply because 1291 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm giving you my fucking pussy, my nigga respond to 1292 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 2: a text message. So he went a few days. So 1293 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 2: I said, you're doing this shit again. I'm gonna let 1294 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 2: you be. He literally said, I was on a binge 1295 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 2: this oh week, it was a weekend. This was a 1296 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 2: Monday response, so it was a weekend. Makes sense because 1297 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 2: he has a job. Drunk for three days straight, no sleep. 1298 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 2: I said, you got it, get well soon. Then he said, morning, 1299 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 2: what are your plans for BT weekend? I said, I'm 1300 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 2: off for you. You literally ain't been responsive and I'm 1301 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 2: put for over a week. And he's like, okay, that's 1302 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 2: your choice. Wish you nothing but the best, and he 1303 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 2: got a thumbs up. That's it. And now I realized it. 1304 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: Was a what did you initially text that he didn't 1305 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: response to. 1306 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 2: No, But we were face timing. It wasn't a text. 1307 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 2: It was just like that I'm gonna be there, be 1308 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 2: there next week this time, and he didn't answer. 1309 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: No. 1310 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 2: He called me the last time he called me on 1311 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 2: face time, I didn't four o'clock in the morning. 1312 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: In three days. What was this last communication? Hold on 1313 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 1: made you so upset? 1314 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 2: Hold on? Well, the fact that we spent an hour 1315 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 2: on FaceTime making plans for this week that I'm here, 1316 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 2: and you go the whole week before I come here 1317 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 2: without talking about it wasn't a week, you. 1318 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Said, it was three days? 1319 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 3: Still long enough. 1320 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: What was it that he didn't respond to that? 1321 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 3: But the reason why he because. 1322 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 2: He left me all read. I said, you leave me 1323 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: on red raggedy. Then he said, yo, this was but 1324 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 2: see I don't know the dates now it says Monday, Saturday, Saturday, Monday, Monday, Tuesday, 1325 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Tuesday later no regardless, noo, But like like, I don't care. 1326 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 2: I didn't like the communication effort. You not gonna get 1327 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 2: in my faith, layup with me and be in my 1328 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 2: pussy if you wasn't. 1329 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 3: But see that wasn't a dick roller decks that was 1330 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 3: fucking unsolved mysteries, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1331 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 3: I just I just feel like I feel like that 1332 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 3: what fucks us up in our head is how we 1333 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 3: think things are supposed to be. And most of his 1334 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 3: damage is done before we even interact with another human being. 1335 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 3: And most and I think a lot of times we 1336 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 3: set people up for failure because we don't even give 1337 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 3: them the whole play. We just give them the offensive line. 1338 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: We're saying right before, and to his point, right before 1339 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: that you didn't want to fuck with someone that was 1340 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: energetically on a vendor. Now it's the standards you have. 1341 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 2: But but why can't two things exist? I genuinely do 1342 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 2: not want to deal with someone. 1343 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Me with your friends. But me, let's be me, drinking. 1344 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 2: With my friends did not leave me unresponsive to the people, 1345 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 2: the niggas, the friends, my family that I care about. 1346 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 2: So that's one thing. Hold on and me drinking or 1347 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 2: having fun is not me being on a binge, me 1348 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 2: literally not sleeping because I'm drinking, I'm partying. I'm exuding 1349 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 2: this level of behavior. I can drink, I can have 1350 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 2: a drink. That's not a problem. At the same time, 1351 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,919 Speaker 2: now that I'm casually dating one thing that I wasn't doing. 1352 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 1: Are you are you no? 1353 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 2: No, and we're not going to do this. 1354 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: No man, no to me if you're just fucking a nigga. 1355 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,439 Speaker 2: To me, if I'm just fucking a nigga, I still 1356 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 2: want the common courtesy, human decency of you responding to 1357 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 2: me and not leaving me on red for three days, 1358 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 2: especially knowing I'm coming to your city. Bro, I get it. Sorry, 1359 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 2: anybody that I'm gonna hope my. 1360 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Legs laying about like my volume, like Beard Bay cut 1361 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: me off for like a or six months because he 1362 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: said I didn't text backward. But I get that. I'm like, bro, okay, 1363 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: but you're not my nick like, get over it. I'd'm sorry, 1364 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: but when people make me beholden to like answering on 1365 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: their time, but it's not even mean to me literally 1366 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: with my friends all weekend. Let's just say it's a 1367 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: birthday weekend. I'm having a good time. Okay, I'll get 1368 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: to you when I get to you. I don't. 1369 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 2: I don't, and that's up to me. 1370 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to get to work text. I get it. 1371 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 2: I get it, but I don't expect. I don't expect 1372 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 2: mind you of response within an hour. If we are 1373 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 2: actively talking, I'm coming to your city. You supposed to 1374 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 2: lay up and be up inside of me. You not 1375 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 2: responding for days on end. I'm sorry. There's no way 1376 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 2: that you deserve at this point, my time, my pussy, 1377 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 2: my space, and to me. I've finally gotten to a point, 1378 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 2: thank God, where I can actually feel as though only 1379 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 2: people that make me feel wanted, feel desired should be 1380 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,959 Speaker 2: able to be in my space and to me, whether 1381 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 2: it's a text message within twenty four hours, twenty four 1382 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 2: hours is not asking a lot. I don't need joe 1383 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 2: As to respond once. 1384 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: I text you. 1385 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 2: But if you go three four days without hitting me 1386 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 2: a week before I'm coming to your city, you are 1387 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 2: not someone that I need to give my time to. 1388 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: If that's your standard. Cool, However, I just think we 1389 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: are putting a lot of rules on casual. It's human. 1390 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: I think deity deserves that. I don't think fucking does shit. 1391 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't you gonna be in my pussy? You got 1392 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: if I'm give him shit pussy next weekend July fourth 1393 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: weekend and I don't hit them back this week whatever, 1394 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: like if all we talk about is sex. 1395 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 2: We don't only talk about sex, we talk about his 1396 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,479 Speaker 2: kid work, nigga, you got me on FaceTime even caring 1397 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 2: about your motherfucking Oh sorry, there's a guy. 1398 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 3: I mean, y'all really don't need nobody else. But no, 1399 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 3: like check that was crazy, but it's brilliant. It's brilliant. 1400 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 2: It wasn't a debate, bro. 1401 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think if that didn't happen with your 1402 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 1: ex and you weren't in that mode, if I. 1403 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 2: Wasn't thirty three and grew to fuck up and say, 1404 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 2: these niggas don't deserve pussye, But. 1405 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, all right, A couple of things, A 1406 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 3: couple of things, A couple of things right for me? 1407 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 2: I mean, because I want to be treated well. 1408 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 3: I think I think. I think Mandy gives pussy. I 1409 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 3: think some women just get dick, and those are those 1410 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 3: are those are different things. 1411 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: Andy's actually giving the dick in this scenario, Yo, come, no, no. 1412 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 3: No, but no no, actually she's not like if. 1413 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: You lover, if you're someone that's showing up for sex, 1414 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: women giving you an experienced nigga. 1415 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know there are like in my 1416 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 3: own personal life, any casual sex I've had is like 1417 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 3: it would be like I'm talking to a woman in 1418 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 3: DM for like a year and a half. I finally 1419 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 3: our schedules, finally connecting, we're in the same city at 1420 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 3: the same time, and then we fucked. Or it might 1421 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 3: be like an ex girlfriend who doesn't want to move 1422 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 3: on and actually fucking new nigga, but she's okay with 1423 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 3: fucking me even though we're not in a relationship. That's 1424 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 3: probably like my extent of casual sex. Now, no, those 1425 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 3: instances are different. But I just feel like in my incident, 1426 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 3: she just wanted to come get some dick. She wasn't 1427 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 3: a submissive woman trying to make sure that she had 1428 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 3: a qualified, caring person to give her pussy to. 1429 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 2: She just wants. 1430 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 3: Now, when a woman wants dick, she will go to 1431 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 3: her nearest nightclub, motherfucking car wash, wherever, wherever dix are 1432 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 3: so and to be like, you know what givings like, Listen, 1433 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 3: it don't gotta be free, Like if a nigga gives 1434 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 3: you great dick, you should put fifty. You remember y'all 1435 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 3: had the love guy in here and he was like, yo, 1436 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 3: I fucked the bank teller. Jason Love right, Jason Love 1437 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 3: told me that if you fucking bank Taeller good and 1438 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 3: you count of fucked up, she should bless you for 1439 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 3: the happy ended. Like I wish I would have got 1440 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 3: a lot more cash for the quality dick I was 1441 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 3: giving out, especially as a side nigga, because side nigga 1442 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 3: dick is what saves relationship. 1443 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 1: That kept me so happy. 1444 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying crazy, But no, that was 1445 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 3: But like I think most women have to ask themselves 1446 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 3: when they're when they engage, when they when they get 1447 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 3: that they they dick roller DECKX moment they got asked them, 1448 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 3: am I trying to get fucked? Or am I trying 1449 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 3: to actually give my pussy to somebody I feel like 1450 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 3: cares about me. And if you don't have your mind 1451 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 3: made up about that, you're gonna set You're gonna set 1452 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 3: other people up. 1453 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 1: For get like it's super emoi and for the most 1454 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: like you don't want to let me be emo. 1455 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 2: That's what we have. 1456 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: But I think that's the point, like that I'm trying 1457 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: to make so like I'm so emotional in sexual encounters 1458 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 1: that I've sometimes ruined what it's just a sexual encounter 1459 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: men that I don't want to date men that I 1460 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: don't want to spend more time with them that I 1461 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 1: know is a bad investment of my time. I feel 1462 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: like because I've had those parameters and not just a 1463 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: text or whatever they like I'm talking about, maybe I've 1464 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: had like rules or whatever set it's kind of kept 1465 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: me from fun casual sex. I really think I was 1466 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: so on a high horse. I'm not saying you are 1467 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 1: with the sex in my past, with what I needed 1468 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 1: from casual sex partners. Then it really kept me away 1469 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: from niggas because it's like, damn, you want me to 1470 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: be your boyfriend, but not be your boyfriend. 1471 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it ain't keeping me away from niggas. I just said, 1472 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna. 1473 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 1: See you, right, I. 1474 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 3: Mean, do maybe people want these these other than monogamous bonds, 1475 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Like I don't think a lot of people really want 1476 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 3: full blown casual sex. 1477 01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't either. 1478 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people don't. And I think 1479 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 3: I think we I think we did people, but I 1480 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 3: think we all. I think we all march to that 1481 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 3: drum like as like like if if culture at the 1482 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 3: highest is in entertainment and the music, all the music 1483 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 3: suggests that you know, we can fuck niggas just because 1484 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 3: they give us money, and then we can fuck hose 1485 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 3: because they just look good and they want to be around. 1486 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 3: But I don't think people like on the day to day. 1487 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 3: I don't think people can actually handle that. 1488 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: I complete. I think men can't either. 1489 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 3: There's a lot of women I wanted them to call 1490 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 3: me back. 1491 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 1: If we're going to ask for something casual and we 1492 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: want this casual exchange, we can't then say it has 1493 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: to come with X y Z. 1494 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 3: Why not? 1495 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:49,640 Speaker 2: Why not? 1496 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 3: Because that's not casual. That's if you want me to 1497 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 3: clean my crib and have roses on the table before 1498 01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,639 Speaker 3: you come get dick. You did not come over here 1499 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 3: for dick. You came from romance, and romance is different 1500 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:03,759 Speaker 3: than tell. 1501 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 1: Me what y'all think about this scenario that's happening into 1502 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 1: a homegirl mind claims she's had the best stick in 1503 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 1: her life, hates that he sends her an uber and 1504 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: she pulls up. She has now added this stipulation, but 1505 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: after about four months, she would prefer at least they 1506 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 1: have a meal together and go out and get drinks. 1507 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 1: This niggas like, that's that you want me to take 1508 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: you on a date before I fucking get some pussy 1509 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 1: that I ain't going and we're like all we do 1510 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 1: is fucked. So literally said to her, and I was like, oh, 1511 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,600 Speaker 1: you kind of read you, but she didn't deserve He 1512 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: sent her a text he said, Hey, we'd love to 1513 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: keep seeing you, but like, I don't know if you're 1514 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 1: not dating other people and you're suddenly putting a requirement 1515 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 1: on me that we didn't set in the beginning. I 1516 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: don't want to do this pretend thing just to keep 1517 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: having set like we already. 1518 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Had but casual sec he now wants to date him to. 1519 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: Know se, I don't know that. 1520 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 3: I think she just wants something else wants. 1521 01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,639 Speaker 1: I didn't think she wants to date him. I think 1522 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: she just she wants to. 1523 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 2: She doesn't feel good about it, right, But no, But 1524 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying in my what you for our twenties, 1525 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 2: I was so fine with that, And that's why I'm 1526 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 2: saying even this person, Yes, it's as small as a 1527 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 2: text back, I text doesn't count, no, but what I'm 1528 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,719 Speaker 2: saying is too. Even in my encounters of casual sex, 1529 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 2: now I know the things that I like is romance. 1530 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 2: And what's crazy is I took a screenshot because you 1531 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 2: have a poem on your you have a poem on 1532 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 2: your page, and I have a screenshot from Cinnamon Love 1533 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,680 Speaker 2: who used to be who actually was a guest here 1534 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 2: on this podcast, and the response to your poem. 1535 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, wrong phone. 1536 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 2: This, this uh dealing with two phones thing is kind 1537 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 2: of crazy. 1538 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 1: Who got two phones? 1539 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 2: Me? I got two? One for the whole you want 1540 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 2: to say, you know, well. 1541 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 3: She that's like ipassed. When I first came a. 1542 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 2: Well she left, she basically left a comment under your 1543 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 2: page and here it goes right here she said that no, 1544 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 2: that's wrong too. Basically anyway, don't know where the fuck 1545 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,919 Speaker 2: is at, but she basically said that romance is actually 1546 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 2: the bare minimum and is in terms of your interaction 1547 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,959 Speaker 2: with somebody. And I think, to me, again, the flowers 1548 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 2: can be a lot. Responding to a text is minimal, 1549 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 2: But the way I used to talk about the lack 1550 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 2: of not needing intimacy, romance to me does now seem 1551 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 2: like the bare minimum and what someone can at least 1552 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 2: offer if you laying down giving them your whole body. No, 1553 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,480 Speaker 2: look at ah, bitch, AnyWho. 1554 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't. I just want to 1555 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: say I don't want to shit on you at this 1556 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 1: because as someone that's required. 1557 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 2: Right and now I do, I wasted my time. 1558 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: I got in so many little like things of self 1559 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 1: worthiness about if a man wasn't doing these things before 1560 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 1: he fucked me, and I think it was simply ridiculous 1561 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 1: because I genuinely just wanted to fuck. I knew I 1562 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: wanted someone deeper, smarter, maybe just better at all aspects 1563 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 1: of life, or someone that was a better fit for me. 1564 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: I get. 1565 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 2: But for some reason, I was really sitting here like. 1566 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: I can't fuck with him because he didn't do this. 1567 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,599 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's the bfing. 1568 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 1: I've been dickless, not right now. I had been dickless 1569 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: for funds because I was doing shit like that. So 1570 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: I just feel like, oh no, if someone is safe 1571 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: and respectful, yes, nigga, that's enough. I get that. 1572 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 2: I just realized in ending my relationship the same way. Right, 1573 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 2: when you have sex, you want your dick suck, right, 1574 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 2: You like for your dick to get sucked if you're 1575 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:32,919 Speaker 2: gonna have sex. 1576 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: Right, will you know manny? 1577 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, let me finish, let me finish. 1578 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: No, no no. 1579 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 2: Will you have sex with somebody you want them to 1580 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 2: kiss you right, Okay. So to me, what I realized 1581 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 2: from my last relationship, the intimacy that I obtained actually 1582 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 2: fulfilled me more than the dick. 1583 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 1: So what's that one moment? So one moment? 1584 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 2: So when I so, when I broke up with when 1585 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 2: I broke up with my ex and went back to 1586 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, well, we had sex, even though 1587 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 2: it was top three of the sex, I felt empty after. 1588 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 2: So to me, now, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna 1589 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 2: have sex with someone, though these aren't sexual things, it's 1590 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 2: the things that within my mind make my pussy drip. 1591 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 2: But were you always feeling empty? 1592 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 1: No? 1593 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,759 Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. I experienced with my ex, 1594 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 2: the things, the going out and getting drinks, the talking, 1595 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 2: the laying hold on, let me finish, Let me finish. 1596 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:32,600 Speaker 2: Because because because I am such a sexual being and 1597 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 2: because I've had this nasty, freaky, wild sex, I can 1598 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 2: have that with anybody. However, now that I'm having these 1599 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 2: casual encounters or I'm having sex now with people that 1600 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: are not my man, I realize though after my relationship, 1601 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 2: the things that actually turn me on about even being 1602 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,759 Speaker 2: around a nigga are those little those little intimacy not wrong. 1603 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 2: I want to just say that, well, yeah, because these 1604 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:55,719 Speaker 2: are my feelings. 1605 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 1: But I'm saying if the expectation you have if a 1606 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 1: man doesn't do it, I think that you being no 1607 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,040 Speaker 1: because you experienced love and now your standardship, well no, 1608 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,880 Speaker 1: because you don't have a boyfriend right now. You need 1609 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: these niggas to fill the gap. It's not even filling 1610 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 1: the gap as much as this is. 1611 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 2: If I'm gonna lay up with you and give you 1612 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 2: my time and give you my pussy to me, the 1613 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,679 Speaker 2: things that actually fulfill me and make me feel good 1614 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 2: are those little things outside of it. 1615 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 3: That's why, and that's. 1616 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 2: Why I communicate that. 1617 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:30,679 Speaker 3: That's why romance can never be the bare minimum. 1618 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: Bitch. I ain't gonna lie. 1619 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 2: That was a circle back because I was kind of 1620 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 2: agreeing with that girl. But you're right, I mean, because 1621 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 2: clearly it's a lot to ask for it. You're telling 1622 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 2: me it's a lot to ask for it. 1623 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 3: Like I've been, like I've been on this planet before, 1624 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 3: like you said, but right now, but right now, this time, 1625 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 3: thirty nine years is time, right, and out of all 1626 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 3: of the things that they've introduced, like electric cars, diamonds, 1627 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 3: you know, fucking keyese that doesn't go moldy after forty 1628 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 3: five days? 1629 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: The fuck is that? 1630 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 3: Like? The best the best invention was like this best 1631 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 3: friend that you can have sex and create life with. 1632 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 3: Like I don't care about how if you if you 1633 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 3: work hard enough, you can become like a doctor who 1634 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,320 Speaker 3: can actually like crack. Like that's cool. But you know 1635 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 3: what else is cool? Everybody else in my life I inherited, 1636 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,960 Speaker 3: you know that. God, no, none of these people I picked. Yeah, 1637 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 3: but I but guess what, guess what I can do? 1638 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 3: Like you know, just like they've invented like fucking polyester 1639 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 3: and poly your thing. They invented this concept that you 1640 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,760 Speaker 3: could take a stranger who you find visually pleasing yep, 1641 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 3: and you can. You can abandon everything that was of 1642 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 3: no value to you and you get the opportunity to 1643 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 3: start anew with a person who is not your elder 1644 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 3: or a parent figure that you had to serve for 1645 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 3: some time, and you have to do the reciprocal when 1646 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 3: they get older. Right, Like this is its own thing, 1647 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 3: and the beauty about it is it hits you in 1648 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 3: so many places that the person like that, like it's 1649 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:08,760 Speaker 3: it's literally your umbrella in a storm. 1650 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Like that like that. 1651 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 3: So when you when you have that, the fact that 1652 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 3: the fact that we like when we connect, it's like what, 1653 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 3: I don't mind. Like I could have a connection with 1654 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 3: a dog, but it doesn't arouse me sexually, but woman does. 1655 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 3: So I can communicate with women, I can creep pro 1656 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,600 Speaker 3: create with women like it's the most beautiful thing that 1657 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 3: ever existed. But the only thing that stops you from 1658 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,840 Speaker 3: just being my homie is the romance. 1659 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 1: And you know what, but romance for some men and 1660 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 1: maybe not for you, because you seem just someone who 1661 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: applies a lot to give obviously throughout your work too. 1662 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 1: Romance for some men is not for that connection is 1663 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 1: a lot to ask. 1664 01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 3: But so so Spanish. So is a Spanish customs form 1665 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 3: to somebody who never got it in high school? What 1666 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 3: you're missing? It's like, well, you know, I guess, I guess, 1667 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 3: like I kind of try to have analogies because I 1668 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 3: want people to take their same logic and introduced it 1669 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 3: to any other area of life, of life. Uh oh no, 1670 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,800 Speaker 3: just let me. I just mean that romance to some men, 1671 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,680 Speaker 3: specifically black men, specifically black men who never watched their 1672 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 3: mom get bought flowers, right, specifically black men who've never 1673 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 3: who were never brought up in an environment that catered 1674 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 3: to women, you know, especially because they don't get the like, 1675 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 3: where do urban black men American right, let's be let's 1676 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 3: be specific, where do urban black men get their romance 1677 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:55,679 Speaker 3: programming from? 1678 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 1: You know what, I think it's wrong. I believe it's taught. 1679 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 1: I think I think we all all win and have 1680 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,879 Speaker 1: had to do a service with one. 1681 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,800 Speaker 2: Nick yes to tea you gotta teach. 1682 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 1: You gotta teach your ex girlfriend that nigga's so good, 1683 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 1: random flowers all the time. Thank you girl. You gotta 1684 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: find out who I am yet, because you're probably going 1685 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: deep in the pictures and being like this bitch. But yeah, 1686 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 1: I learn it from when I was my ex last one. 1687 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 1: Just you learn it from women. I actually believe this 1688 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,759 Speaker 1: is why men need homegirls, female friendship and kinship. 1689 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,639 Speaker 3: No when they when they took black churches and black 1690 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 3: community centers. Uh, black people are never as youth. Inner 1691 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,640 Speaker 3: city black kids are never put in an opportunity in 1692 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,800 Speaker 3: a situation other than school where they can develop and 1693 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 3: fellowship like platonically right, like it's and then even as 1694 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 3: even as adults, man the networking events are never as 1695 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 3: crowded as the nightclubs. And we're all in this in 1696 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 3: this you know romance, like not even romantic, it's just 1697 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 3: the sexual culture. So we don't have a place that 1698 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 3: we harvest them like like like like Sunday school and 1699 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 3: church and acquire practice the day before that was enough 1700 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 3: programming to compete with the world, like with school, and 1701 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 3: it's like whatever, whatever, whatever got drilled into my kids' 1702 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,880 Speaker 3: brains through Monday through Friday, between a good home and 1703 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,679 Speaker 3: church and community activities, it would. 1704 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:15,799 Speaker 1: Kind of wash that shit out. 1705 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 3: But at a certain age, right, I can no longer 1706 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 3: be responsible, like just I have to take ownership over 1707 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 3: my own rearing, Like as a twenty two year old man, 1708 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 3: if I didn't have certain qualities, it would be a 1709 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,680 Speaker 3: lot easier for me to blame my parents or you know, 1710 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 3: just you know. 1711 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 4: But at forty So with that said, yeah, to rap it. 1712 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 3: To rapid, because we gotta. 1713 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: Go no, no, no, just like actually, because I really 1714 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: am curious from what you're on right now. Sure, if 1715 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: a woman and you have a casual sexual relationship. 1716 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 3: Casual sexual relationship. 1717 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,640 Speaker 1: And romance is something she's requiring, do you feel like 1718 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 1: that's too much to add. 1719 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 3: I think even my casual sex comes with romance because 1720 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 3: I don't that the pleasure of pen tration is great, 1721 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 3: but the viscosity is I'm. 1722 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Gonna use that. That's a good one, dis. 1723 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 2: B I s see, oh see why that sounded right, nigga? 1724 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:20,560 Speaker 1: At one point you think that that most should. 1725 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of a lot of people were taught 1726 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,919 Speaker 3: how to how to talk to desire sex separate from romance. 1727 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 3: I thought sex for me was always the result of 1728 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 3: my romance. Like I was writing poems and cooking for 1729 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 3: women before I kissed them, and I was, you know 1730 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like I had to. I wanted to 1731 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:46,680 Speaker 3: be romantic because I it felt good for me to 1732 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 3: be romantic, but I knew it it made them feel 1733 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 3: good too. 1734 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: But it was your blur a line for either party? 1735 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 2: Of course it does. 1736 01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 3: It can't finish the question. 1737 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 2: I know where shes gonna does it ever? 1738 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 1: Blur line for either parties to where it may not 1739 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,759 Speaker 1: be healthy? He is this where we fall into. 1740 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 3: Well, yes, yes, the best the love of mone fall into. 1741 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,719 Speaker 2: But that's where you have to constantly. But that's where 1742 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,680 Speaker 2: talking and listening to me comes into play. It's communication, 1743 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 2: and we always talk about communication being key, right, We've 1744 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 2: been saying that from episode one, So to me, when 1745 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 2: you you have to express the things that you want, 1746 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 2: what you're looking for, and you have to listen to 1747 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 2: what this person also wants, but what they're willing to 1748 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 2: offer as soon as. 1749 01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 1: I can't handle this. Actually I'm a person that I 1750 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 1: cannot handle too much romance in casual situations because it's 1751 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 1: ann casual situation, because it's actually so needed and important 1752 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 1: for me that I would not know what to do 1753 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 1: with it. I'm gonna really receive it, you know what 1754 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, You fucking make it? 1755 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,920 Speaker 3: Are you're scared though? Like? Have you? Have you done 1756 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 3: the right to ask yourself through? Am I? Am? I? Am? 1757 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 3: I afraid of going I want to keep the romance 1758 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 3: at baby, because I'm afraid of going over the cliff hurt, 1759 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 3: not even being hurt, but just being just unlocking that 1760 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 3: level of romance to where you get to Wheremandy is 1761 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 3: and I can't have the sex without the romances. Like 1762 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 3: is that is that a genuine fear? You know? 1763 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: Like if I fear, actually it's not her, it's not that, 1764 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,120 Speaker 1: it's more about I know that people have an understanding. 1765 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: Let's just say we're gonna start fucking right, and I 1766 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,880 Speaker 1: know you're a poet type of dude. I know you're 1767 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna have the candles out. If you started doing those 1768 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: things for me, the lines would be blurred because this 1769 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 1: is simply something that turns you on as a part 1770 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,759 Speaker 1: of sex. You're that type of guy scorpio or whatever. 1771 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, Oh, this feels amazing. I would 1772 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 1: love to keep having this. My brain just can't compute 1773 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 1: romance and sex. 1774 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,600 Speaker 2: So you can because you can't comp I've compartmentalized especially 1775 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 2: sex like often, like I've had sex because I was 1776 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 2: drunk and just wanted to have fun. I ate pussy 1777 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 2: because I just wanted to eat pussy, not that it 1778 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 2: was anything more than that, and in my twenties whether 1779 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,759 Speaker 2: it was transactional. 1780 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Shut up. Likely. 1781 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 2: So so because I've been able to compartmentalize sex as 1782 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,240 Speaker 2: something that genuinely makes me feel good. Now that I'm 1783 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,400 Speaker 2: able to even add the levels of romance that make 1784 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 2: me feel good, says don't make me say why you? 1785 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 2: Steven said, I wish I could have sex like you? Right, 1786 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:20,160 Speaker 2: everybody more shit like it is. This is cannot do this. 1787 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,599 Speaker 1: I ain't trying to do the ship like my homegirl 1788 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 1: asking for my homegirl wants to do to start doing 1789 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,160 Speaker 1: things that make her feel more of a human being 1790 01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 1: when in reality, but see that because she doesn't, she 1791 01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 1: doesn't find the value of just being someone's sex fuck buddy. 1792 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Right to me though, this is to me a patriarchal thing. 1793 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 2: You know, No, I get it, I get it. But 1794 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 2: there's also, like I said, there's a layer. Then she 1795 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:45,759 Speaker 2: needs to sit with herself. 1796 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 3: Is it is she need to sit with a nigga? 1797 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,640 Speaker 1: I feel like doing it? Hit me how great it 1798 01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 1: is you were able to call me on the way 1799 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 1: back from Yeah, I just got it and going and 1800 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 1: I just got fucking. 1801 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 3: Now, how are you going to say at your job 1802 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,679 Speaker 3: paying twenty two without asking for twenty five? 1803 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Point? Is if you decided, hey, I'm casual. We're casual. 1804 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 1: This isn't going beyond this. 1805 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 3: Yesterday's price is not today's. 1806 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Price, period, Please period, It's the price when I signed on. 1807 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 1: No matter. 1808 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,759 Speaker 2: So here's the thing to all women that she wants 1809 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,639 Speaker 2: him to take her on a date or to feed her, whatever, 1810 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,680 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. Right as women, if you 1811 01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,679 Speaker 2: express that you need something or that you want something, 1812 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 2: and this man is like, I ain't got it for you. 1813 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 2: That now becomes her responsibility if this man is not 1814 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,599 Speaker 2: willing to give her what she wants, like me. 1815 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,719 Speaker 1: So what's happening on this? And she feels so down 1816 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: like because she's like, I can't believe he won't do 1817 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 1: this for me. She's feeling bad about herself. I'm like, girl, 1818 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 1: it's literally learning with men. He's about to get into 1819 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 1: a thing with you because now y'all are taking this 1820 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,759 Speaker 1: bedroom shit out in the real world and it's gonna 1821 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 1: turn into something headache. 1822 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,240 Speaker 3: If you if you you gotta can, Can we normalize 1823 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:06,160 Speaker 3: sticking dick and girls you wouldn't feed just to stick 1824 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 3: your dick? And a woman like I don't understand that. 1825 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 3: If if I've gotten the opportunity to sleep with a 1826 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 3: woman without food for time and her only up the 1827 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 3: price is like, yo, can we get a two for 1828 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 3: forty at the sizzler before we step to that crib 1829 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 3: getting down? 1830 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,480 Speaker 1: Well, I hanging with no sizzler. 1831 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 3: Bit I mean, but I mean I regardless, like bro, 1832 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,760 Speaker 3: like I will, I will feed you dick, but not postive. 1833 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 1: Anyways, Mike, thank you so much for joining us. 1834 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:33,439 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 1835 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,720 Speaker 2: Can you please let everyone know where they can follow you, 1836 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,560 Speaker 2: where they can support you, and also your book that 1837 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 2: you got. 1838 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, So my name is just Mike the Poet. 1839 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 3: You can follow me on all platforms, Just Mike the Poet, 1840 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 3: j U S T M I K E T H. 1841 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 1: E p o E. What's your cash? We need to 1842 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,160 Speaker 1: send you some shoes. 1843 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 3: Dollar dollar signs the Poet. 1844 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:53,599 Speaker 1: I know that's right. 1845 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 2: If you want some bonus content, make sure you head 1846 01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,559 Speaker 2: on over to our patreon his patreon dot com. 1847 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,879 Speaker 1: Thanks horrid bled This is the Yons. 1848 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,640 Speaker 2: We have a lot of good stuff over there, and 1849 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm making it now too to where Weezy and I 1850 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 2: go on a lot of other podcasts, and so if 1851 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 2: you just want to see where're at, that's posted on there. 1852 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,640 Speaker 2: We have bonus content. I'm taking live calls. We do 1853 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,639 Speaker 2: town halls every goddamn month. So go ahead and join us, 1854 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 2: support us. We love y'all. This has been yet another 1855 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 2: episode of Horrior Decisions. 1856 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 5: Bye bye, it's bonus bitches, catch up, yalla. 1857 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Behind the paywall is such a nice place to talk 1858 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 1: about yourself because our YouTube. 1859 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 2: They'd be like damn bitch, you crying again, y'all. I 1860 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,080 Speaker 2: ain't been runing a long time. Y'all can suck my 1861 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 2: diff from the back. That's that's what the fuck I see. 1862 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:42,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. Hold on, when's the last time 1863 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 4: I cried? 1864 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 2: The last time I cried was on Patreon when I 1865 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,240 Speaker 2: was going through all that goddamn bullshit with that bitch, 1866 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 2: I can talk about something emo all right now, you 1867 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:51,920 Speaker 2: could be chemo. 1868 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 1: So BT weekend came. My boyfriend came to LA and 1869 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't really talk about my dad too much because 1870 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,040 Speaker 1: for me, I don't like to really talk about his 1871 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 1: health and you know, he's getting older. But I was 1872 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,960 Speaker 1: so emotional because he met my dad and my dad 1873 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,599 Speaker 1: was just having a hard day. You know older people 1874 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,120 Speaker 1: like they got a good day, they got a bad day. 1875 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,720 Speaker 1: So he just needed a little care and stuff like that. 1876 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,640 Speaker 1: But it was a very vulnerable thing for me to 1877 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 1: meet my dad because no one had met my dad 1878 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 1: since olday and at that point my dad wasn't in 1879 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 1: a wheelchair, so this was like a new thing and 1880 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 1: we hadn't really talked about it much. My mom was there. 1881 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: We all just played games together. It was nice like 1882 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 1: we were enjoying each other's company. 1883 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:32,880 Speaker 2: We hadn't really talked about it. 1884 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 1: I just told him how much it meant to me. 1885 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Last night we were on a double date. He said, 1886 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 1: we talked to a couple that just got married. We 1887 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 1: just went to their wedding. It was Gila. Y'all always 1888 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,800 Speaker 1: hear me talk about the other Guila. So basically we 1889 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,639 Speaker 1: talked about each other's parents and he was like, yeah, 1890 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,200 Speaker 1: I just got to meet her dad, and it was 1891 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,600 Speaker 1: so nice to see how that side of her is. 1892 01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Like I see her mom and her but I was 1893 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,599 Speaker 1: glad to see her dad, Like I see the more 1894 01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: serious side. I see this protector energy that she has. 1895 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, my dad didn't even really talk, so how 1896 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,800 Speaker 1: did you see all that? Like all we did is 1897 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 1: play a game. He didn't really say much to you. 1898 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 1: He was like, because I could see it the way 1899 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 1: you and your mom would move around. He would want 1900 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,559 Speaker 1: to look watch where you're going, to make sure you're good, 1901 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 1: even if you can't open the door. It's always there, 1902 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,640 Speaker 1: like his masculinity is always there. And I was like, damn, bro, Like, 1903 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just dating someone that's a 1904 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 1: little more. 1905 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:28,840 Speaker 2: Empathetic or what. 1906 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 1: But like, I never had conversations like this outside of 1907 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: scissors about my parents or how things make me feel. 1908 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 4: Like all day was very surface level, and I it's a. 1909 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,880 Speaker 2: Lot of men are, and especially black men. 1910 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,280 Speaker 1: It just doesn't hit you until it hits you when 1911 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 1: you have something different. And like, I'm watching him and 1912 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to start crying. And at this table 1913 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 1: we're having like this fun dinner. But I was like, 1914 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 1: he was thinking all that, and he said, then I wondered. 1915 01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 1: There were a few moments where I was like thinking 1916 01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 1: of how he looked at me and he's not even 1917 01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: saying this to me. 1918 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 2: He's saying this to gils Has. 1919 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,640 Speaker 1: He's like, I can watch him look at me with 1920 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 1: his daughter and like he used to be this protector 1921 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like the new one now for her. And 1922 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 1: it's like this weird moment I'm having and I'm like 1923 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,719 Speaker 1: what because he told me none of this and he's 1924 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,719 Speaker 1: really thinking about it, and he's like and it made 1925 01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,559 Speaker 1: me wonder how he feels like you should be, you know, 1926 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,640 Speaker 1: going and drilling your daughter's new man and figuring all 1927 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,559 Speaker 1: this shit. And he's like, but maybe he can't do that. 1928 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Because he's in a wheel chair, but because he can't 1929 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 1: move around on his own, like maybe he's feeling a way. 1930 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, bro, it was just getting me 1931 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,559 Speaker 1: really emotional. And we were in the car home. I 1932 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh, like you'really gonna be my husband, Like oh, 1933 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,639 Speaker 1: that's like I understand now, Like this is why this 1934 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,400 Speaker 1: is happening. This weekend we went to a Nigerian wedding 1935 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,240 Speaker 1: and I got to be around his parents again. And 1936 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: when I walked in, not joking, I was the only 1937 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 1: light skinned person it was. 1938 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,040 Speaker 2: I was like, I felt like a white one. 1939 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,040 Speaker 1: Nigga. I wanted there. I was like, and mind you. 1940 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm asking you sure we all got wearing nothing African. 1941 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 1: He's just not an anti table nigga. He's like, no, baby, 1942 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm wearing my fucking tabby booths. Like do your thing, 1943 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,880 Speaker 1: like we dressed a lot. We're sitting at his whole table. 1944 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:16,240 Speaker 3: His dad. 1945 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Everybody got African council. This is his dad. He got 1946 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,920 Speaker 1: up there, he's like making a speech and I'm sitting 1947 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 1: there like, oh my god. They think I'm Puerto Rican 1948 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,760 Speaker 1: and they think that I'm the woman that made you 1949 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,200 Speaker 1: wear a fucking regular suit. Like that's all I could 1950 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,040 Speaker 1: think is that I'm this influence, you know. And then 1951 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm also feeling this pressure because he's been around my 1952 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 1: mom a lot, right because we're going to LA for 1953 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 1: a week at a time, and you know, my mom's 1954 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 1: right there, and I'm just like, am I not doing enough? 1955 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,679 Speaker 1: Like how do I make sure I'm respecting the elders? 1956 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Like that's such a process with Africans, Like, yeah, what 1957 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,840 Speaker 1: do I do to let them know like how much 1958 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,439 Speaker 1: I care about their son? I don't want to overdo 1959 01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,439 Speaker 1: it either with your hands, right, we didn't eat foo 1960 01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 1: food and okay, okay, but making the wedding was Jamaican 1961 01:30:58,640 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: and African. 1962 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so I was on the. 1963 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:01,920 Speaker 3: Court all right. 1964 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:06,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, it's really tough because now I'm in 1965 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,599 Speaker 1: this phase of my life where I'm like, ooh, like 1966 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,839 Speaker 1: I really want to make sure I never thought. 1967 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,599 Speaker 2: About being this good for someone's mom before we're their parents. 1968 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,599 Speaker 1: But what hit me? I'm at this wedding where he 1969 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 1: introduced me to fifteen uncles, ten cousins, you know, Africans. 1970 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,559 Speaker 2: Family for family's So you just called a segment from 1971 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:29,160 Speaker 2: our bonus content Oprah on Patreon. We have so much 1972 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:33,839 Speaker 2: more bonus content, BTS live episodes, hundreds of hours. 1973 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,439 Speaker 1: How are you not subscribed? Go right now? Patreon dot 1974 01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:39,480 Speaker 1: com Backslash Rebel Decisions