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Welcome 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: back all the smoke. 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: Miami just had a great one and and the o 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: g Alonso one morning you dig And now we got somebody. 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Who's my dog? Who my real dog? Who fucked up 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: UCLA's hopes and dreams? 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: It ain't been the same since that ship was over 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven years ago. 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Come on there, Welcome. 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: To the show, twenty twenty. Hall of Famer egrimnd James Man. 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Brot Jacket. Yeah, that's real. 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: From gold Teeth to Go, I mean, speak to that 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: that line right there and what that meant to you 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: and symbolized na. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: It just summarized everything. You know. 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: It's like a lot of stories run parallel, everybody coming 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 4: from certain situations, but they all kind of mirror each other. 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing saying from rags to riches. 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's just me telling my story, me sitting 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: up there, going into a space where it was uncoming. 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: Nobody was used to somebody coming in from South Florida, 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: dreads gold teeth and back in the day, everybody used 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: to conform, And for me, I just always, you know, 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: I felt best at being myself, keeping me one hunding 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: with myself first first, and then understanding the overall. 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: The overall was, I'm here to. 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: Play ball, you know, and anybody that understands business understands 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: that all the outside stuff is irrelevant if you're getting 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: a job done. And I always kept the main thing, 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: the main thing. Every time, you know, I just go 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: out there, I'm gonna go play ball. But then when 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: the season i'm gonna get missing, I'm gonna get back 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: to my comfort zone. So that's been the story, and 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: that's been one of the kind of methods I use 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: to make sure I stayed locked in love. 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: It rush for twelve and forty six yards ninety one 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: touchdowns led the league in rushing each of your first 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: two seasons. Only one of four runners to at least 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred yards in those campaigns, the other three the 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: Great Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, and Walter Payne. We're gonna 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: get into everything but house life currently. Was you just 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: mentioned that you're doing a podcast that's kind of getting 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: you out of your comfort zone a little bit. 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: But what's going on with your life right now? Life's good, man. 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: You know. It's like I got them six kids. 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: I got five that's either been through closet or graduate 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: and I got the last one my dog or you know, Jesse, 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: he rocked out with just But like like me, I 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: tell tech prior to being a parent, you know, So 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure that I lock in and 77 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: make that my whole focus once I got through playing ball. 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: So my goal is to be six for six, put 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: six great people out into this world, and you know, 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: hopefully they able to reach back and keep that thing 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: going with the next generation or anybody encounter. So, you know, 82 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: especially like being an African American or being black, you know, 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: you always got the stigma and you might not have 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: kids in the same house, But that don't mean you 85 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: can't be a father, you know. So it's like me, 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna show you that anything that is 87 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: perceived as negative, I'm gonna turn it into a positive. 88 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: And so I'm gonna have them kids rocking out doing 89 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: doing what they're supposed to do and make him become. 90 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: Independent yeah, his son Jessel James played in the Offson 91 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: game last year, and he wasn't he was playing in 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: the twenty four K game. 93 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: At first. 94 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: He played so good in the twenty four K game, 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: he played in the Iverson game, ended up starting in 96 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: the Iverson game. N He's in Cincinnati, so and during 97 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: that time, you know, he didn't know I had a 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: relationship with his pops. So during that time I called him. 99 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I've got a relationship with your pops. 100 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm telling he, like, man, your pop's cool. He didn't 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: believe it. So I was able to help him doing 102 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: that process in the Iverson game. Now he shined it 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: us Cincinnati. Shout out to my boy Jise. That's my 104 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: dog man. 105 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: I got six and one on the running. I'm about 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: to have seven come seven come summertime. 107 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: Man. 108 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: So it's a blessing and I love to hear that because, 109 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: like I said, there's so many stigmas on black fathers 110 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: and what we can and can't do and what we're 111 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: capable of. But like you said, there ain't no excuses. 112 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: You're gonna be a father. You're gonna be a father, 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: and we're gonna make good people. 114 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: Not just good athletes exactly, put some good people out 115 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: of the world. 116 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: Man. So you and Stack, how y'all meet? What's your 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: first interaction time? You mean, tell them about it? We 118 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: made it three one seven cool man. 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: He handled the basketball, I handed the football, and we 120 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: met him every night every night in the club out 121 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 4: and the beauty of it this man, like everybody enjoying 122 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: each other's success. 123 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: We're all growing, we're all young. 124 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: Were all learning, you know, at the same time. And 125 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: who better to learn with somebody then somebody is actually 126 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: going through the same things you're going through. So we 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: and that on stay forever. Everywhere I see Stack is 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: always I don't never want to. 129 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: Hear that basketball and football players don't get along because. 130 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: We did every night every night. We did it every 131 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: night in atoime Bro now the college, but we did 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: it every night. Now different. But when you get to 133 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: the pros, it's like you made it. Ain't no conditions 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: on you. It's it's a smaller fraternity when it comes 135 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: to the pros. Man. If you come to these these 136 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: new cities, man. 137 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 4: It's like you gotta link up, you know, and like, 138 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: and then you're talking about going to support you at 139 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: them I'm at them pacer games. You know, you're out there, 140 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: but it's a difference when your dog on the court. 141 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's totally different. 142 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: And we grew up, we know, like when you are 143 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: to know, man, when you see somebody grew up like us, 144 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, even if they're playing football, 145 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: y'all relate off that first. 146 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Then when you find out. 147 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: Everybody real ones or it just go off from that. 148 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Only makes it better. 149 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, house it being a hoop dad though, you know 150 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: we talked about we're talking about Jizzle just got to 151 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 3: get a chance. 152 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: To go to the league. Man. 153 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: And you know from you play with him, he's he's 154 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: basically a running back playing basketball though. That's what Jesu 155 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: Will is. But how do how do you feel about 156 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: him his success in basketball? Did you want him to 157 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: play basketball? I wish I could have played basketball, like. 158 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: Like my first love. Like, but I just all I 159 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: had was a strong right and no left. 160 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of people that made him leave wonder. Yeah. 161 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: So it's like it's like so like football was easy 162 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: to me. 163 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: It's like you got to make a business decision, which 164 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: one do you gravitate to and then you fast forward. 165 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: You know, Ji three four you mom, you just send 166 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: a little clip to him shooting the basketball. And he 167 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: really loved the game, and I'm like, shit, I got 168 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: to relive what I wish I would have done, you know. 169 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: So it's like so and I always we used to 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: always practice with the basketball players and get out there 171 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: on the court with like, man, the basketball player they 172 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: soft because. 173 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: You just run they come playing. 174 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, so, I'm like, man, if I can create 175 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: something that's tough like a football player like basketball, but 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: the skill like a basketball player, I think that would 177 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: be the perfect combination. You did that and you know, 178 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: just a six two sixty three, So it got skilled. 179 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: But he got that toughness, a toughness, and so if 180 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: you put that in there, then you can go because 181 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: like even when he was growing up with training, it's 182 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: like you can't call foul like we through you know, 183 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: like we can't. 184 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: You just got to play through it. 185 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: And if you if you can master that, you can 186 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: play this game. 187 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 188 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: Football is my first love, and maybe to the league 189 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: in basketball, but I felt like I was a football 190 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: player the whole time. 191 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: And then different got to be tough, definitely different. 192 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: Dion gave him is probles when we had Deon, Like 193 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: he didn't see a lot of guys the mother sports 194 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: talk about playing football, but he felt like he know 195 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: that Matt really had a career. 196 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he had really had a career in football. 197 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, say what you want the tapes don't lie, don't lie. 198 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: How did you come into the podcast space, started your 199 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: podcast Create the Life? 200 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's just you know, it's like sometimes you step 201 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 4: outside of your comfort zone. But for me, it's just 202 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: another way to reach back, give information. It's like I'm 203 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: not going to force something on people, but you always 204 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: ask questions. You know, you got all these It's like 205 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: I look at it as another form of mentoring. 206 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you get this kind of mentor to. 207 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: People who you couldn't read, Like me, I like, I 208 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: like to read books. I like to set up there 209 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: and try to always get one up on whatever situation. 210 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: And so you look to situations or you look to 211 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: people and you start saying, Okay, that's how I can 212 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: reach them. So I say, this is the way I 213 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: can reach people. Even with I wrote the book Gold Cheat, 214 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 4: the Gold Jacket. You know that was I can't reach 215 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: every athlete. I can't talk to these young kids that 216 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 4: that's in another city or another town or whatever. But 217 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: if they go pick up this material and get them 218 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: some insight. You know, a book can take you places 219 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 4: that you. 220 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Too. 221 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it actually introduce you to people that you 222 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: can't really get a chance to meet in person. And 223 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: so I think that's a good thing in mine is 224 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 4: you know, it's based on five pillars mindset, self mastery, 225 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: financial freedom, community, networking, and lifestyle leader. I think that 226 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: pretty much covers everything, and it's all on some positive 227 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: vibes like I don't like I ain't never I ain't 228 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: never get it, I ain't never get ahead, you know, 229 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: cutting corners or doing nothing negative. Everything I've done with 230 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 4: doing it the right way, and I've been winning none stop. 231 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm scared to do something wrong because I've been winning 232 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: too long the time. Yeah, just stay solid, But then 233 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: you're showing other people that, man, you could do things 234 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: the right way. 235 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: You can stay positive, you can remove all that negative stuff, 236 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 4: and you're gonna see how much better you feel and 237 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: how much farther you go. 238 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: Portfolio includes gentlemen clubs. 239 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 3: As we both like you know, you know being you 240 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: both love restaurants, real estate more. If I'm not mistaken, 241 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: were you involved with some type of tour putting tours 242 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: together or someone. 243 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: That what point you just try to get in this. 244 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: But like like I think, like you know, when you 245 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: once you start, you know, you play ball, you what 246 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: you want to do. Now you're going to another space, 247 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: but something that you gravitate too. And a lot of 248 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: the time when they said, man, you you involved with 249 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: strip clubs, they always gonna take the negative approach. 250 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: But that's that's where you meet everybody. That's where everybody hanged. 251 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: That's the kicket spot, my best. 252 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody, everybody know, everybody gonna be there, everybody gonna hang. 253 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: But it's the cool stuff to do. 254 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: And then you also like you ain't and you're not 255 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 4: there going for bad you know, you're with good intentions 256 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: and you having a good time. 257 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: Like imagine if people would just be and not. 258 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: Worried about And I can't do this because my job, 259 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: it's so many people hiding going through the back door 260 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: of the club. Man, You're like, man, y'all, you take 261 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: it too many steps. Man, go straight to the front door. Man, 262 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 4: be you and be you. I'm telling you life, man, 263 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: people gonna accept you. 264 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Man. The world is wide open. You can be whatever 265 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: you want to be. 266 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: I've owned clubs, but I've never owned a strip club, 267 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: and I can imagine it's probably good. 268 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but. 269 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: See if I did, I just want to be a 270 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: part of one thing, the hiring process. 271 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: But then you get then you're gonna get into your 272 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: type and they're gonna be your type. 273 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: You won't forget about everybody. 274 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: You don't advanced that he thinking of something whole the lee. 275 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna behave this is your type. And then 276 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, why this girl don't work no more? 277 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: Steve, Steve fell out man, the kidnapped the game up 278 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: a proposition you could refuse. 279 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Jackon got it pregnant rare. He went to the Hall 280 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: of Fame, went to the Hall of Fame ceremony, and the. 281 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: Seventy five rag top Chevy Caprice as you supposed to 282 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: real Florida ship. Yeah, what are the class? What other 283 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: classes do you own? And then uh, did Jim or 284 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: say buy you one? Buy you that one? 285 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Well? 286 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: As far as classic cars, you know, I got like 287 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: we always had the don't the Chevyes. You know, I 288 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 4: grew up having them, you know, and that was like 289 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: that's a popular thing. So that was my way of 290 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: putting a stamp on the Hall of Fame, bringing South 291 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: Florida tour. You know, like every every everywhere I've been, 292 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 4: I brought South Florida, the family. I brought who I 293 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: was with me and you know, you see it in 294 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: my approach and what I do, and that's my comfort zone. 295 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: That what makes it easy. So you know, I would 296 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: once I found out they had a. 297 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 4: Parade, and I was like, I didn't want to just 298 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: be riding on some type of convertible. 299 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Like, man, it's a big moment. Man, I got to 300 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: you got to represent for the people. 301 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: You know, it's like the dreads that go because it's 302 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: like it means a lot, you know what I'm saying, 303 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: to be able to reach back and show people that 304 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: it's possible your way. Yeah, this stigma is that, man, 305 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: you got to you got to walk the straight line. 306 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: No man, you go play ball, stay out the way, 307 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: do things the right way, and you can go. That's 308 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: why you see that gold You see the Gold team, 309 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: you see the bus, you see everything with the dreads, 310 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: you see the car, So that was all part of it. 311 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 4: But I've always been into them cars. And as far 312 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: as mister I called him the Big Man, he always 313 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: man big Man, like he like one of the greatest man. 314 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: Know. 315 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: He he bought me a rose Ross you know that 316 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 4: were riding on the car. He was like, Man, I'm 317 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: gonna get you whatever type of car. I'm like, you bullshit. 318 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 4: But then again then it goes back to like I'm 319 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: a principal person, you know. I'm like, I ain't gonna 320 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: just go get something. I want to get myself. I 321 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: had already had a Fanom, and I was like, man, 322 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: when I get myself together and the time is right, 323 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get me a get me a. 324 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: I had the Fannel, which one I had to I 325 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: had the Ghost, the Ghost. I had the Ghost. 326 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm so, I said, Man, I always 327 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: wanted to get the Fantom. I said, I wanted to 328 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: get the Fannom. Later on, once I you know, slow. 329 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Down, that's the big Boy. Yeah, that's the big Boy. 330 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: And the Big Man came through and bought the Big Boy. 331 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: You know. It's just crazy man like manifesting things and 332 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: things just happened on their own but doing things the 333 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: right way. Man, people see you, man, and then the 334 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: man on top always shine the kids. 335 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: So I ain't never worried. 336 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, speak on your childhood now, don't make me uh 337 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: say it wrong. 338 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: Mockley Yeah, Mockley Yeah. 339 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: A small agriculture town ninety minutes northwest of Miami. 340 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, like Mackley's Bottom. It's small town, South Florida, and 341 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: football is everything. 342 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: You know. 343 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: It's like it's one of those places where like people 344 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: come to work and they'll migrate like it's not it's 345 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: like a lot of medskins, Haitians, blacks. 346 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: Not a lot of whites, you know. 347 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: So, but you're growing up in the same area as Naples, 348 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: which is you know, that's one of the richest cities 349 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: per capita in the US. 350 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: So you get a. 351 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: Chance to see you get a chance to see things, 352 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: You get a chance to dream and believe it, like, man, 353 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: this stuff possible because you're right there. And so you know, 354 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: it was like it was the perfect upbringing because it 355 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: gives you a great appreciation for when you make that 356 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: hour in some trip to miam or you go somewhere else, 357 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: you go to another city. 358 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: You like, man, like we really had the grind. We 359 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: really had to do things to make. 360 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: It out, and you have to keep a discipline because 361 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: it's easy to stay in that small town mindset. It's 362 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: easy to set up there and just be comfortable with 363 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: whatever whatever everybody. 364 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Else is doing. 365 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: How vital that was for your mom to tell you 366 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: that I'm not buying you gifts because she was your wholewitness, 367 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: because every day was a gift. 368 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: I think that helped you. 369 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, like when you when you're young, you don't really understand. 370 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: You don't understand it. You don't understand you as you 371 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: get older. 372 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: As you get older, man, it's like it's like one 373 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: of the greatest gifts because of the fact that you're 374 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: like man, like, I don't like I don't value all 375 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 4: that material stuff, so you can't move me. You can't 376 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: trick me with all that stuff right there, you know. 377 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: And then I don't have bad days. You know, I 378 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: don't have bad days because I know every day it's 379 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: a good day. And I think, you know, as parents 380 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: don't realize the importance of planting seeds. They started planting 381 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: those seeds at an early age, and it carries over, 382 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: you know, it carried like my mom used to one time, 383 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: she's just like you remember Popeye's remember the cartoon Popeye. 384 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: My mom and she would go make some spinach and ship, 385 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, like you do that. I all believe that. 386 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: And then after you this spinish you say, you flex 387 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: your muscle, and then it's like for your muscle on 388 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: got so big. 389 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: I was really believing we all because of Popeye. Bro. 390 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like and then now you're like, and then 391 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: so but you actually it's something good for you. And 392 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: now you've incorporated that into like your lifestyle, and then 393 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: you start believing, you start believing. So you know, I 394 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: plant seeds all the time. And my kids, you know, 395 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: always tell them they the greatest. Always tell them, Okay, 396 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 4: yeah you can be this, you can do that. But 397 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 4: it's realistic too. But I also lay out, you know, 398 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: the pitfalls stuff like, look, you can do this, you 399 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: can do it, speaking of you can make it, but 400 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: if you stay around that circle, you stand around us 401 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: when you ain't gonna make it, and it's just cut 402 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 4: and dry, you know what I'm saying. 403 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Then you're gonna sit back and you're gonna live and regret. 404 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: And so I'm telling you personally, like you can physically 405 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: make it. You know, you got the tools, but if 406 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: you don't make it, I want you to look at it. 407 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: And even even they circle, I tell them, I said, 408 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: I want each one of y'all, whoever, go go get 409 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: the weed hand, the weed man, go get to this. 410 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Go get to that. 411 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: I want y'all to sit back and say, man, I'm 412 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: responsible for this kid not making it, because I'm never 413 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: gonna tell one of my kids or anybody's kid to 414 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: do something that's not gonna push them in the direction 415 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: that they're going. But I'm not gonna sit up here 416 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: and be battling with you all day. I'm gonna give 417 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: you the information. 418 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Now. 419 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: You want to hang with them, that's what you do. 420 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: You want to sit around a bunch of people who 421 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 4: ain't got nothing going, that's you. But I don't want 422 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: to hear it later on. And that's that's the beauty 423 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: of our position. You know, I'm still outside, so I'm 424 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: I ain't like somebody that's out the loot. You know, 425 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: I'm outside, uh, and I'm paying attention and everything. 426 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm watching everything. I'm watching. 427 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 4: The moves stand in tune with every generation, so we're 428 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 4: seeing the moves. You know, and it's like and that 429 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: was when I talked to d on them team. I 430 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: had had to give a speech, and you know, part 431 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: of it was you lived like Ford, but you understand 432 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: it backwards and all us as elders like, look, but 433 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: we're trying to tell you. But if you want to 434 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: be hard headed and go for that man, that's on you. 435 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: You're not You're not about to mess up my days. 436 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: I think about boys in the Hood when Ricky played 437 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: the VHA tape of his highlights when they're. 438 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: You gonna see did you there? Was that the same 439 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: type of moment when you've seen that Walter Payton VHS. 440 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, like like man, when I used to see that 441 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: Walter Payton vhas man, that was like playing those seeds early. 442 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: You know, I don't and like for me, it's like 443 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 4: I was younger, but I was bigger than everybody, so 444 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: I'd always play up. And then when you plan up, 445 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: you know, you playing like it's a difference between eleven 446 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: year old and twelve year old. So and somebody gonna 447 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: hit you done, they don't hit you good, and you're 448 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 4: feeling it, you know. But that walked the Payton take. 449 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 4: That walked the Payton video always said, Man, I don't 450 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: care how hard somebody hit you, jump right back up. 451 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: You know you can be hurting. 452 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: You know, I ain't gonna never let a person see 453 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: me down or see that I've been affected. And I 454 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 4: took that with me my whole career. And then you 455 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: start people hearing people say, man, he don't never get tired, 456 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: he don't never sit up there, and you know that 457 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: you're never gonna I'm gonna keep this poker face and 458 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep giving it to you. And even if 459 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: you got me, you ain't gonna know it, you know, 460 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: because I'm gonna get myself together in the corner, but 461 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: ain't nobody gonna know? 462 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: And then back out there, give it to you again. 463 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: Explain the mindset behind your secret to a workouts? Now? 464 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: That was it's like a cheat code, I think. 465 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: I think in sports sports it's like, you know, first 466 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 4: you get a measuring stick, you know, you get a 467 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: measures till you get around people and then you start 468 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: seeing what they do and then you start saying, Okay, 469 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 4: how can I get one up? How can I put 470 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: myself in position to be better? And I realized that, man, 471 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: if I out train everybody and I outwork everybody, I'm 472 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: gonna come back way better than that. 473 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what they do. But then I'm gonna 474 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: do what I do. 475 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 4: And I just always did and two am was like 476 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: like I'm a night person by nature, you know, so 477 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: I always used to go in around two, three, four 478 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: in the morning. It started from like middle school, and 479 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: then it went all the way through the pros, you know, 480 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: and and it was it was one of the best 481 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: things ever because you know, everybody else, they gonna come 482 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: in and you got people that cut the workouts, cheat 483 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: the workouts. But it's like, what you can do by yourself, 484 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: what you willing to do by yourself is the true 485 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 4: testament of who you are, what type of person you are. 486 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: Everybody can do it when the coach there, when the 487 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: video on, but it's like, what you're. 488 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: Gonna do, nobody look, nobody looking. 489 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: I'm talking about making yourself do it, but then going 490 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: hard because you have to put like imaginary people in 491 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: front of you, you know, you got to you got 492 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 4: to really think that you're playing against the best in 493 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: the world. And when I started doing that, I started 494 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 4: kind of overvaluing the people that I was about to 495 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: play or who I was going against because I made 496 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 4: them so great in my workout and I trained to 497 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: make sure that I match that intensity. But then when 498 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 4: I see them in person and we get across from 499 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: each other, they don't be it. It's like, so the 500 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 4: game continues, you know, you just keep playing that little 501 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: mental game with yourself. 502 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: That's dope to you. What is that logo represent for you? 503 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: The universe? The universe. That's the universe. Man, that's the 504 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: greatest school. Man, I'm taking. 505 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: It's like when you look at college, you got you 506 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: got probably two schools, three schools maybe that got the 507 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: total package. And that's the U U c l A 508 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: U s. See the major cities with top programs, and 509 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 4: for us, it's like we just feel like it ain't 510 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: nothing gonna be like us. You know, nobody gonna bond 511 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: like us. And when you down here, you're like, man, 512 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: I get to go to school, great school. You know, 513 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: nobody can knock the school. You know, the school put 514 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: out some of the greatest people in the business world overall. 515 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: But then you get the city of Miami. You get 516 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: to you get to. 517 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 4: Stay up four, five, six in the morning's always something 518 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: to do, you know, I go on the West coast, 519 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 4: l A. Y'all got two o'clock house house parties. But 520 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: so you think about it around the country. What school 521 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: gonna give you everything? But it also is things that 522 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: come with that too. 523 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 6: You know that I wouldn't it would it would have 524 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: wouldn't him now maybe because surrounded by somebody, it's like 525 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 6: we go out tomorrow, we're. 526 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Going to work house. It ain't. 527 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 4: You don't have no choice, Like no, It's like a 528 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: lot of times you see people they don't they don't 529 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: command or demand their teammates to step up and like, 530 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 4: you have to do that. 531 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: And that's one thing we did. We held everybody accountable. 532 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: You can't be on my team and not willing to 533 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 4: do what it takes because it's going to affect the whole. 534 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: We need to get rid of you. 535 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: You need to say, man, I'm not built for this 536 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: or something, because at the end of this, it's a 537 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: team game and there's no way you can be slacking. 538 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: And I can't sit up there and let you slack. 539 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: And a lot of times see something sometimes players will 540 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 4: be like, well I got me, I did me. 541 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm like you forget about a big picture costs. 542 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: It ain't They ain't no better fun than going to 543 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 4: the pros with your dog or being in the same 544 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: situation and we all growing together, you know. 545 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: So it's ain't boxing or golf by yourself teams, but 546 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: you're dependent on people anyway, regardless. 547 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: Uncle Luke big part of Uncle Luke the history and tradition, 548 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: but also instrumental in in the university's program. Were you 549 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: around with he had the bounty program with them. 550 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Not no, that right that was before you, that was 551 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: before me. 552 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 4: But like I think that right there was kind of 553 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: that Like a lot of people put their spin on it, 554 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 4: but they don't really understand that. 555 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: If you know Uncle Luke, Uncle Luke is a. 556 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: True mentor you know Uncle Luke don't have a dog 557 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: in the fight, and he's gonna sit up there and 558 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: make sure that he's working for the people and they 559 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: you can call it a bounty call Uncle Luke making 560 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: sure that people at school, you're doing what you know, 561 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 4: making sure that you understand like what you're up against, 562 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: keeping people out of trouble. You know, it's like when 563 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 4: you out because you're in these Miami streets, man, everything 564 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: goes on so many temptations and you got people that say, hey, 565 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: y'all need to go get back to school, get back 566 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: to the dorm. Y'all got a safe place to come 567 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 4: to my club and y'all to be good, and somebody 568 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 4: else will take it the wrong way. 569 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: And of course when you go out involved. 570 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: Man, man, everybody around here, go and sit up there 571 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: and make sure you're good. Because, man, the people down 572 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: here love they love home team. 573 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: They love represent represent that like your representation of their teammates. 574 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean your practices I'm sure were wards, 575 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: but your team Reggie Wayne Santana moss Ed reed to 576 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: name a few. What were those practices and training sessions 577 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: and just camaraderie like amongst that team. 578 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: Oh man, it was fun. Man. 579 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: Imagine people that would be in the transport portal once 580 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: they show up today and they walk with practice and 581 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: see all y'all hit the portal. 582 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, get on this field. We wouldn't be hit no porter. 583 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: Man, We'll be making you go to the port I'm saying, 584 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: I'd be like, man, I made three forty to. 585 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: The straight up, make you'll make you get into portal. 586 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: That's what I would do. I would make you get 587 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: in the porter. Would like I. 588 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 4: Don't understand, I said a kids jumping the porter like man, no, 589 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you know. I'm gonna make you get 590 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: this is my turf, this mine right here. Too many 591 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: times they run, But that was that was thinking like 592 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: us with us. You know, it was like it was 593 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: like a true brotherhood. But everybody was cold with it, 594 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, like like it's like you can go out. 595 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: And I remember we had this thing where if somebody said, man, dang, 596 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: I can't I can't practice or I can't play, and 597 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: everybody looking like, man, you're bad, and we get back 598 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: at it because this is our opportunity. This is this 599 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 4: what is about. And then if somebody get one up 600 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 4: on you, you can't wait till tomorrow because you're gonna 601 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: get They're gonna ride you all day, all night, and it's. 602 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: Gonna make you up your game. 603 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 4: They're gonna make you either getting the transfer a portal 604 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 4: or step your game up. 605 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: And that's what it was like. 606 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 4: And so practice was more exciting than anything because you 607 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: have people that was driven, you have people that like 608 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: everybody wanted to go pro. 609 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: You know, everybody did what of it? You should see 610 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: our pro days. 611 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: Everybody everybody's sitting there just imagining it, imagining that that 612 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: being them because they're like, man, I can't wait till 613 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: my day. And when you got people that's driven and 614 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 4: they have a purpose behind it, like man, I'm gonna 615 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: take my family out of this poverty. I'm finna make 616 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 4: sure I have this. Somebody do that, and I'm not 617 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: gonna miss workouts. I'm not gonna cut corners. And then 618 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 4: you see a different type of person. It's like every 619 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: year you see the guy that been messing up or 620 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: messing around. Right when it comes time to get ready 621 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: for come by, they start training, they start doing all 622 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: this stuff. It's like it's a new person, Like you 623 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 4: should have been doing that. 624 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: Do you did you ever go head up with the 625 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: reading practice? 626 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Now you don't really go nah, I ain't really know 627 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: head up. 628 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: Like we just everybody just out of the ball every 629 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: place safety, you know, So I want no thing where you. 630 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Can't do that. He was right there waiting on you. Man. 631 00:28:53,880 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 7: I always got busy man. 632 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: For a reason. 633 00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: Man. 634 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: Now we battled. We battered. Everybody battle. 635 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: Man. 636 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: It's like we battled, but it wasn't no thing. 637 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: When nobody can say, man, I got one up on me. 638 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Me running back University. 639 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean there was an era where Frank Gore, Clinton 640 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Ports yourself, Willie m Willias McGahee. I mean just the 641 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: tradition in that era of running back. So y'all close 642 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: to this day. Nobody jumped in the portal. Man, nobody jump. 643 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: You're jumping. 644 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: Now you can't jump in the Porter's like, I'm gonna 645 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: see if I can make you jump in the port 646 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: But now everybody, everybody's still stick together, everybody's still communicate. 647 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: And now it's about the children. You know, you're looking 648 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: at like Frank Gore his son when the draft he 649 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: went to the bill. So we're sitting everybody monitoring everybody, 650 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: you know, saluting each other and pushing porters. 651 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: Guy, he got two. 652 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: Boys that's coming along, that's getting a lot of recognition, 653 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: you know. And then I got my on as a 654 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 4: Howard that plays running back. So it's like that fraternity 655 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: is still there. You know, Willis's son just went. You're 656 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 4: going to college, So everybody got somebody. Then you have 657 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: a reference that you can utilize this person on. 658 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: You know. 659 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: It's like it's like it I realized that that you 660 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: can probably reach my kid better than I can in 661 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: certain situations, like they just want to hear it from 662 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: somebody else. 663 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: Same message is something different messenger. Yeah, so so I 664 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: like to utilize that. 665 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: Okay, come talk to them, or come show them this 666 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: drill or show them work out. So and that's the 667 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 4: good thing you got when you have a group that 668 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 4: you know personally that you. 669 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Went to war with, that you can just lean on. 670 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: Top five Florida football players of all time put you 671 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: right on the spot. 672 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I can't. I can't do that one. Man, 673 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 4: You're gonna leave a lot of people. Oh but off, 674 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna skip that question. Man, Florida man like Florida, 675 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: Tough Texas. 676 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, those three, it's a lot. It's a lot of 677 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: great people. 678 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of great players that that came 679 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: through this thing. And not only on the pop one 680 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: of a high school college level. They did in the 681 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: Prosy And that's that's the tell tale sign. 682 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: Postgame celebrations with Trick Daddy in South Beach. Any any 683 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: stories you remember from back then. 684 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 8: Now, I really had no I can share, but we 685 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 8: had we we have, we had some good times. 686 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: You know. 687 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: It's like and all of us around imagine everybody having. 688 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: Success at the same time. 689 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: You know, we're all around the same age, we're all 690 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: like hitting our stride at the same time. 691 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: So just imagine that, you know, just. 692 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: Imagine everybody, everybody just in the same but it's not 693 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: no one boss and a bunch of people up on 694 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: everybody bosses. Everybody got and nobody's like showing nobody. Everybody 695 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: like really happy for each other. 696 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety eight. Reschedule the game versus UCLA that got canceled, 697 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: and you decide to go three don't say too night, 698 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: ninety nine yards on thirty nine carries, and y'all upset Ucla, 699 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: who was supposed to go to the national championship forty 700 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: nine to forty five, and we ain't been shipped on 701 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: the football field since. 702 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: What do you remember about that? That was? That was opportunity, 703 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: you know it was it was was that your freshman 704 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: and sophomore year, my junior year, my last game? Yeah, 705 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: it was easy. 706 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: So that I mean, it was like, you know, it's 707 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 4: two different type of balls, you know, you West Coast 708 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: ball and then over here we play a different type 709 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 4: of ball. And then UCLA was at a disadvantage, you know, 710 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 4: it's one o'clock, you know, twelve one o'clock game. That's 711 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: where the here's different. You know, y'all got a different 712 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: breeze out there. And then we didn't have nothing to lose. 713 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 4: You know, you're going out there with some people just 714 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: imagine a gang of brother and got nothing to lose, 715 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: and you know, you just you just hanging loose, just 716 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: hanging out, just doing what you do because they you know, 717 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: if you win, you know, it's great. You know, if 718 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: you lose, the whole world think you're gonna lose anyway. 719 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: And then I got a chance to knock you too. 720 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 4: I was like, so that was that was that was 721 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: the cool part, man like, look, we know it was 722 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: up against and then that was that was my Actually, 723 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: that was actually my first time that I was gonna 724 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 4: be that. I went into a game knowing that I 725 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: was gonna be the one that carried the load because 726 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 4: and the way University of Mind was set up is, 727 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: you know, every back is going to play, you know, 728 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: so you had to split carriage. 729 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: We split carriage. 730 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: But then one of the other guys he had got 731 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 4: he got suspended or he got injured or something. 732 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Well he wasn't able to play, and so that was 733 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: my opportunity for me. I wanted the chance. You know, 734 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: you just want a chance. 735 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: You wish you get more carries, you know, you wish 736 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 4: you get more opportunities throughout the year, but just the 737 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 4: way our program designed, and so you got to make 738 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: the most out of those opportunities. And then now I 739 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: got to touch the ball thirty something times. 740 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: That was the first time game. 741 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the first And that's where all that hard 742 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: work they started to show because I hadn't. If I 743 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 4: hadn't worked hard and put in that work, that's too 744 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 4: many carries. 745 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: Trying to get to the big leagues after college, after 746 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: you did put up a thousand yards on U C 747 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: l A and seventy five touchdowns. How was the pre 748 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: draft process, Like what was your what was your forty 749 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: your time the forty. 750 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: Like I think four three four four one something. Different 751 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: people have a different thing. But that was all irrelevant, 752 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 4: you know, because it's like, you know, as long as 753 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 4: you're in the four folds and you can play. 754 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: But I know I could do it all. 755 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: But we was in a situation where it was like 756 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: me and Ricky Williams and a couple of the backs, 757 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: and Ricky was the popular back and he had won Heisman, 758 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: and nobody had really seen me play. And so it 759 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: takes somebody who really really do their homework to say, man, 760 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: look this to guy and go against public perception, because 761 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: you know, the public go about whatever you show them. 762 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: And so that was the coach. They never talked to me. 763 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: I didn't. 764 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: I never interacted with them anything. And then leading up 765 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 4: to you saw Marshall got Marshall got traded. And when 766 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 4: Marshall got traded, he was like, okay, well now a 767 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 4: running back is going. So now I know I'm gonna 768 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 4: move up. You know, I know I'm move up in 769 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: the draft wherever. But my thought process through the whole 770 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: thing was, man all I cared. 771 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get into pros, like I don't 772 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: care where or whatever. 773 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 4: And then so happened. Everything went. It just went fast, 774 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: you know, It's like went fast, and I end up 775 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 4: playing for the Coats. The coach select me. And what's 776 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: crazy was like, you know, you know, you get recruited 777 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 4: by agents, and these agents flew me to New York. 778 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: It was Nick's Pacers and. 779 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 4: I'm sitting right behind Peyton, you know, and never say 780 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 4: nothing to him, don't communicate, to communicate with him. I'm 781 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 4: sitting right behind him, you know. And then two three 782 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 4: weeks later with teammates. You know, that was crazy. 783 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: Fourth overall pick in the ninety nine draft brought into 784 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: a place Marshall fault, big shoes to fill out. 785 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: How was that? 786 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 4: Football's like, I wasn't. I never was worried about having 787 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 4: to replace somebody. 788 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: You know. It's like, man, I know I know what 789 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: they getting. They don't know what they getting. You know. 790 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: It's like when you know you're adult, man, you don't 791 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 4: worry about nothing that you know you got it. 792 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: You don't what to get. Football was too easy, It 793 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: was way too easy. 794 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 4: So to be concerned about anything like that, that's that's 795 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: a waste of energy, especially when you know you got 796 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: what it take, and you know, like, man, like I 797 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 4: know I'm that deal. You know, I know that. I'm like, 798 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 4: this thing is serious over here, but my purpose is 799 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 4: even bigger than hear that, And so I was never 800 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 4: worried or concerned. 801 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: You just want to you just want to get out 802 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: and get the opportunity to go play. Did you have 803 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: to do any rookie duties? Noah, No, I wasn't. I 804 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: wasn't really with all that. You know what they tried. 805 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: I remember one. I remember one situation. Dude, dude, they 806 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: did try me. 807 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 4: Dude like he came and said, hey, rook, I just like, 808 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 4: hold up, man, I said, look, my name e J. 809 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 4: You can call me Edge or if not, don't call 810 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 4: me none at all. I'm not with all that. I'm 811 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 4: just saying like, I'm here to do my thing. And dude, 812 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: man said, I respect that because I'm not, like, I 813 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 4: don't come to play games. You know what I'm saying, Like, Man, 814 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 4: I come here to be one of the greatest to 815 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 4: ever play the game, make me some money, take kept 816 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: my family, and do my thing. I ain't come here 817 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 4: to play all these little gimmicky games. And it's cool 818 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 4: for some people, but man, when I'm in a certain space, 819 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 4: I'm a serious person. 820 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: Man. That's like y'all play them games with somebody else, 821 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: you know. 822 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 4: It's like, and I never had no other issues and 823 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: the actually I got a lot of respect from that. 824 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 4: But it's like that wasn't like, Oh, let me stick 825 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 4: my chest out and show. 826 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: These like you. 827 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 4: Nah, man, I come here to play ball, man, like 828 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 4: I came with all this stuff, man, Like, y'all go 829 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 4: ahead and play them little monkey games with somebody else. 830 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: Man, nobody got time for that. 831 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Peyton Mann and who was he on the field. 832 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: I have two different backgrounds, but it seemed like your 833 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 3: passion for the game was identical. 834 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, like man p p is he's great, man P 835 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 4: Like he showed you like like when you look at 836 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 4: somebody like pe I'm like, you wish you can put 837 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 4: your all into the sport like that, like, and that's 838 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 4: what I wish for my kids. I wish I could say, man, 839 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 4: let me take care of all the distractions, take get 840 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: all that out the way, and just get them the blueprint. 841 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: And you wish you had the opportunity to actually really 842 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: have a true passion for the game. It's like I 843 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: got to deal with the game, got to deal with this, 844 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 4: but they got to deal with Oh you got to 845 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 4: bond this person out, or this person went to jail 846 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: or this one that you know, you got to deal 847 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 4: with all this other stuff, and you just wish you 848 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 4: had some You wish you had the opportunity. So I 849 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 4: was always impressed with the way they had their whole 850 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 4: thing structured out, you know, It's like p was into 851 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 4: that game. 852 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: This man loved that game. 853 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 4: If you go to pee House, he got the same 854 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: equipment that we got at the facility, you know, and 855 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 4: like when you see somebody that really love you can say, man, 856 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 4: this this man can't help but be great, and then 857 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 4: it shows you like like, man, if you want to 858 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 4: be the best, you got to really commit to something. 859 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: So p knew everything, Like we had the offensive coordinator 860 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: on the field and that's. 861 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: That's what it was like planning. 862 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 4: But then you had a good person that really understands, 863 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: like like I got incentives. I got to hit some incentives, 864 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 4: so you're gonna make sure. 865 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you respect people like that. 866 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 4: It's like, dude, I got to get this, I have 867 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: to hit this or if you see that you got 868 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 4: mab Reggie both don't want the boy he got. That's 869 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 4: his hardest I mean, that's the hardest problem with that's 870 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: the hardest thing that he had to deal with is 871 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 4: trying to find balance. 872 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: And he was able to manage it pretty good. 873 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 4: And you respect that because you got somebody that you 874 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 4: know they're gonna put you in the best situation, but 875 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 4: they understand your situation. 876 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: Like I think Pete need to run for president. Man 877 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: probably can win too. 878 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 3: Man, telling you favorite teammates doing in the years? Pat 879 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: McAfee was always one of the cool home boars. But 880 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 3: who was your favorite teammates doing them years? A lot 881 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 3: of people don't know how cool Bob Sanders was too. 882 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, Like I got along with everybody. You know, 883 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 4: It's like I rocked out with everybody. It's like I 884 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 4: ain't kept you as an undrafted free agent. I don't 885 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 4: care whatever around man, as long as you coming outside 886 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 4: and you're gonna hang. 887 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: We had a lot of practice players with us. Used 888 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: to be all the practice players with us. 889 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 4: But you know that was that was like that was 890 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 4: that connection to college because you leaving college early and 891 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 4: then you started seeing like I didn't know the pros, 892 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: didn't really hang with each other. I didn't know everybody. 893 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 4: I didn't really kick it with each other until you 894 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 4: get there. It's like me, I kick it with the 895 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: cool people. Gonna kick it with the cool people and 896 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 4: the people that have things that's in common. That's who 897 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 4: gonna link up. And it didn't matter what round or 898 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 4: what status you was in. And so I hung out 899 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: with everybody. 900 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: Man, what was the furthest you've ever got in the 901 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 3: coach playoffs. 902 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: With the coach. We went to the what the AFC 903 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: Championship game? We made? We made a couple of times. 904 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, after spending most of your career in Indy, you 905 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: signed it with the Cardinals and make that home for 906 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: three years, end up going to the super Bowl versus Steelers. Uh, 907 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: what are your fondest memories about your Cardinals days? 908 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: It was a learning process. You know. 909 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 4: It's like you go to Indy any like they birth you, 910 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 4: you know, and then it's like you go to another 911 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 4: organization and you're thinking that everything in the pros was 912 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: the same. 913 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: It's not. 914 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 4: You realize these organizations are ran totally different, and you. 915 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: Know, losing is not Losing not fun. 916 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 4: And you start being around you get you start being 917 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 4: around the situation where they where they losing, and it's 918 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 4: like it's like it happens all the time. So those 919 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 4: are the things you have to deal with, Like you 920 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 4: have to kind of change the mindset and you can't 921 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 4: let it bring you down because. 922 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: The losers would pull you. You know, the people that used 923 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: to losing. 924 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: People that's okay, we're losing, they'll pull you in the 925 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 4: direction they're they're they'll console you and comforence you and 926 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 4: make it like it's cool when it's not cool. 927 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: So you have to fight that. That was the That 928 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: was the first thing, you know, having to fight that. 929 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: But it was cool out there. 930 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 4: And then the fact that you know, you look back 931 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 4: and you say, man, dang, they got the talent. You know, 932 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 4: you look at the receivers, look at the Hall of 933 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 4: Fame quarterback. You know, they have everything. It's just trying 934 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 4: to put it together. And then we go to the 935 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 4: super Bowl because that's what makes it cool because it's like, man, 936 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 4: I know what I'm talking about. I know I'm seeing 937 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 4: like it could happen. And then after everybody came together, 938 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 4: the right coach that put it together brought in a 939 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 4: system that I was kind of from, like, you know, 940 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 4: there's structure in a certain organizations and Arizona like you can, 941 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 4: like the night before a game, you can just go 942 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 4: home like I never seen that, you know, like I'm 943 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 4: used to structure, and so it was totally different. But 944 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 4: once we got structure, it all came together. 945 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: Current running backs crazy enough, it's one of the lowest 946 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: paid skill position players as we speak. The beating they take. 947 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: Have you had any conversations about that and what do 948 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 2: you feel like the solution is? 949 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's just everything evolved. The game evolved. 950 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 4: It turned to a passing game, and as a running back, 951 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 4: you can't sit there and think that things are going 952 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 4: to stay like they used to be. 953 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, you got to up your game, get in 954 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: the passing game. 955 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 4: You look at Christian McCaffrey, you know, you get involved 956 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 4: in the passing game. Now you're gonna bring more value. 957 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 4: And for me, you know I could have. I always 958 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 4: did all three. And so the more value you can 959 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: bring and the more you can do, the better your chance. 960 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 4: And it's to sit down and talk to the powers 961 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 4: that be about Look, this is how much value I 962 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 4: bring because they're not gonna try McCaffrey. He gonna get 963 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 4: paid top dollars because he can do all three. Or 964 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 4: I know he can catch the ball and he can run. 965 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know as far as blocking. I 966 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 4: haven't really paid attention on that level. But if you 967 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 4: can catch that ball, you can get involved in those situations. 968 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 4: That's gonna be the solution because it's not going back 969 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 4: to where it used to be. 970 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: Still. That's back in the day, any running backs in 971 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: the league you enjoy watching today. 972 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 4: I'm rocking out with the Coats right now. So I'm 973 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 4: gonna say, but I like all these young the young guys. Man, 974 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 4: you sit down and you always watch them, and you 975 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 4: enjoy watching. I always like watching Avan Kamarrow. You know, 976 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 4: it's like it's a lot of the guys. You know, 977 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 4: I'm glad Dak getting a chance to go back to 978 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 4: the Cowboys. 979 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: I'm at Zeke. 980 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, Dak, Ye're the same organization, but Zeke 981 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 4: going back. But you know, the game changes so many 982 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 4: different guys that you don't get a chance to just 983 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 4: settle in on. Okay, this is the guy McCaffrey. Of 984 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 4: course you're gonna sit back and say that this this 985 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 4: guy right here, you know, he's I think he's the future. 986 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 4: He's showing everybody's the blueprint of what it's gonna take 987 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 4: to be a high paid running back. But I like 988 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 4: I got j T and and Andy. I like him 989 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 4: with our quarterback and our new receiving courts. So you're 990 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 4: just watching it and you're just paying attention to, you know, 991 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 4: the direction of it, because it's hard to give advice 992 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 4: when it's a totally different game. 993 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: He's said he got wills, Yeah, he got wills. Yeah. 994 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 2: Just kind of a double double edged question because he 995 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 2: was always about your ship out there. But you ever 996 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: see some people that you try to avoid on the 997 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 2: other side, whether they be lying. I mean, it's over 998 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: now so he can say it, or anybody that really 999 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 2: got you one time good in the league. 1000 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: You got your bill rung, now you get your bell. 1001 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna get hit, but you ain't gonna never a 1002 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: nobody gonna know it. 1003 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: You know, we can know it now that it's over. 1004 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: Though, Nah, you're not gonna know it. 1005 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 4: But like for me, it's like it's like I remember 1006 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 4: like when I was when I was younger, and we 1007 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 4: had to play against the Jets. 1008 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: The Jets had they had. 1009 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 4: Marvin Jones, you know, like and so if you come 1010 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 4: from if you come from the state of Florida, Marvin 1011 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 4: Jones was like the big deal, you know. So I 1012 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 4: was like, Man, I get any opportunity, I'm going to 1013 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 4: straight into it, you know. And I got my opportunity, 1014 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 4: you know, and it's just like it's just like a 1015 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 4: breath of fresh air. He's like, man, I be long, 1016 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 4: like man like I'm playing with the big dogs, you know, 1017 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 4: And those are the things I always did, Like I 1018 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 4: always I always wanted the action because I want to 1019 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 4: see what it feels like to play against the best. 1020 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 4: You know, when you play against Ray, you play against that, 1021 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 4: you played against all the Buffalo Bill greats. 1022 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: It's like I. 1023 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 4: Want to I want that, you know, because how you 1024 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 4: going to ever get a chance to measure yourself if 1025 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 4: you don't get out there with them and you go 1026 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 4: at them and then at the end of the game 1027 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 4: they give your respect. That's like, that's like the biggest compliment, 1028 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 4: especially as a young player. So it's like I always 1029 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 4: embrace that, you know. It's like I'm always looking for 1030 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 4: the best of the best. You got it, man, You 1031 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: got to like who how you're going to be a 1032 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,959 Speaker 4: competitor and you don't want to go against the best 1033 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 4: and you you want to see because I need to 1034 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 4: know what I need to work on. I didn't know 1035 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 4: what I needed to do to get better. And that 1036 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 4: was the approach I always took. 1037 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: That the patent get to the line. 1038 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 3: He used to always get to the line, and you 1039 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 3: had a certain hop step where you can hop to 1040 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 3: the next door, like that that was one of your patents. 1041 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 3: Did that come off instinct or you worked on that. 1042 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 4: That was something that worked on because what it does 1043 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 4: is it's a glide, right, It's a glide because what 1044 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 4: I do is it's a by time. If you get 1045 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 4: in a space where you don't know he hasn't gotten 1046 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 4: to where you can just do something with conviction, you 1047 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 4: buy time and you glide. 1048 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: But you glide like I was. 1049 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 4: I was teaching this to my son, how you glide 1050 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 4: with your feet, you know, not too far from the 1051 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 4: ground where you still under control. As soon as you 1052 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 4: see it, hit it and go. And that was always 1053 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 4: a move because I don't care which direction they was going. 1054 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 4: If they overplay something, I can hit it, I can 1055 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 4: get back here. And so it's something that I added 1056 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 4: to my game to make sure that I can buy 1057 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 4: time because sometimes you can be a little bit too 1058 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 4: fast and then the whole yeah, you hit the whole 1059 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,479 Speaker 4: little bit too fast. 1060 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: You got to buy time. 1061 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 4: And it's just but the thing you can do is 1062 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 4: once you once you make a decision, you got to 1063 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 4: give it you all right then, So that was that 1064 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 4: was one of the things I just kind of worked 1065 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 4: on a lot. 1066 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 3: I know because I know you to hit the us, 1067 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 3: to try to hit that whole hard. Sometimes you run 1068 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 3: so fast you got to put your hand on the lineman. 1069 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: And then figure out where you're going from there. Yeah, 1070 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: that's much. I used to watch you dog. Yeah, man, 1071 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 1072 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 5: Man. 1073 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 4: And then the other thing you can do is like 1074 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 4: I can, like when you get in tune to the 1075 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 4: to your craft, you start to understand, Okay, how can 1076 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 4: I help the lineman. I can position the defender however 1077 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 4: I want him to be because he's watching me and 1078 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 4: the lineman watching him. So if I need to work 1079 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 4: for the lineman, I got to position this defender for 1080 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 4: the linemen to get his hands on, to get him 1081 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,280 Speaker 4: in the best best position possible. 1082 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: So I used to work with the lineman. 1083 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna move him like this, 1084 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 4: like we used to play against the Dolphins, and like 1085 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 4: we played against Zach Thomas. Zach he just went into 1086 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame and I was like, man, how 1087 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 4: the fuck Jack keep getting to the spot. 1088 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: And then I figured out. 1089 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 4: I said, Okay, I watched enough film and I figured 1090 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 4: I said, look, he looking at my shoulders when my 1091 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 4: shoulders turned. 1092 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: He was just hall ass running. He get in front 1093 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 1: of our lineman. 1094 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 4: So then I started, I'll keep my shoulder square Zach 1095 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 4: with Paul's get my linemen in one love advantage over him. 1096 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 4: Then I'll get on it. And then never had a 1097 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 4: problem with never had a problem with it. But it's like, 1098 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 4: it's like, how can I make this better? How can 1099 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 4: I you know, It's like even when you know with 1100 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 4: your receivers, you're gonna tell your receivers like, man, Dan, 1101 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 4: like you start looking at he got this corner or 1102 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 4: he had this safety, and you started saying, Okay, yeah, 1103 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 4: this safety right here. 1104 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: He pretty tough, you know what I'm saying. 1105 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 4: So I'd rather you push your push your corner up 1106 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 4: and go get to the safety because I can deal 1107 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 4: with him, you know. 1108 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: But in certain corners you're like, man, this motherfucker tough. 1109 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1110 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 4: It's tough to get around, but he gonna play it right, 1111 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 4: And you say, okay, stay on him. I work the safety, 1112 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 4: safety and heat nothing, you know, And so you start 1113 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 4: when you start breaking the game down, you're actually working together. 1114 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 4: And it's like even when you're doing play action fakes 1115 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 4: or whatever, you know you're doing all this stuff right, 1116 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 4: you're so in tune with the game. But like if 1117 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 4: Peyton see me breaking out the fake, that means something 1118 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 4: is happening, you know what I mean, he that means 1119 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 4: something has happened. So that means there's a sense of 1120 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 4: urgency for him to get into his throat, you know. 1121 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 4: But if I go through with a full fake, I'm 1122 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 4: seeing stuff that he can't see. And so it's just 1123 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 4: a little little things like that that take your game 1124 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 4: to another level. 1125 00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 2: Speak to his his his mindset and obsessiveness of just 1126 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: reading the defenses and the audibles you guys had to 1127 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 2: go through and how long did it kind of take 1128 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 2: a rhythm? How long did how long did it take 1129 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: to really get a rhythm and just understand everything he's 1130 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: seeing out there? But like you just said, also what 1131 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: you're seeing out there as well. 1132 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 4: Well, you kind of grow together, like it was only 1133 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 4: one year apart, and like I went to a team 1134 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 4: that was three and thirteen and it was like, oh, 1135 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 4: new guy coming in this and that whatever, But we 1136 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 4: worked so hard then we also can go thirteen and three, 1137 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 4: you know, and it's like you implement one or two pieces, 1138 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,479 Speaker 4: but they need they match, they jail, and you turn 1139 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 4: this whole thing around. 1140 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: So we all grow together. 1141 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 4: And for me as a as a running back, I'm 1142 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 4: sitting back there and something you go on stadium you 1143 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 4: can't hear. 1144 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: So if I can't here, I got to know what's 1145 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: going on. 1146 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 4: So that's what made our relationship even stronger because now 1147 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 4: I got to tell what did you see? 1148 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: You know what? 1149 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 4: What's going to make you make this call? What are 1150 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 4: you looking at to say? Okay, I'm gonna switch to 1151 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 4: this because I can't learn it, so I got to 1152 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 4: learn it. Yeah, so I got to learn the game. 1153 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 4: I got to be I got to really pay attention 1154 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 4: to him because if you go the wrong way, somebody 1155 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 4: can come hit your quarterback. Your whole season gone. So 1156 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 4: I got to be in tune with what's going on. 1157 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 4: I got to stay focused because he can say something 1158 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 4: at the line. The receivers they have these signals. The 1159 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 4: line is right there with the line and they talk 1160 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 4: to each other. I'm seven yards back and you don't 1161 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 4: have enough time to talk to me. So I got 1162 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 4: to learn that stuff. So that's what that's what kind 1163 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 4: of helped my football IQ. 1164 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: Go us walk the common fan through the process of 1165 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 2: you're playing on Sunday, what's the next handful of days 1166 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 2: like getting back to Sunday. 1167 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: It depends on how old you are. Like I was 1168 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty one when I went in Monday Tuesdays off. 1169 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 4: After the game, I used to go play basketball with 1170 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 4: the fan. We played kick like's not easy, like yeah. 1171 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: Now back then, and we was out all there. 1172 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 4: After the game, like when you when you're twenty one, 1173 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 4: twenty two, after the game, we would have basketball games 1174 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 4: at the house. You know in the nd especially play 1175 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 4: at one o'clock. You're back home at four o'clock, at 1176 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 4: four something five o'clock. And then you still go out. 1177 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 4: But as you get older it changes so and then 1178 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 4: you got Mondays, you go in. 1179 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: I used to always left weights. 1180 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 4: I always left wait, so Monday, you know, the day 1181 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 4: after the game, that waste tuesdays, that's your day off. 1182 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 4: You know, that's your day off. And then wins you 1183 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,240 Speaker 4: back to it. And then with coach Dundee, you had victory. 1184 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 4: Mondays start in November. So if you plan somebody you 1185 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 4: know you're gonna beat, you already book your ticket. You're 1186 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna stay in that city. You're gonna go 1187 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 4: back to South Florida, and we used to always come 1188 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 4: Downhill to come to the club a lot, like we 1189 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 4: used to come out here to hang out and get 1190 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 4: back to Indy Tuesday night. So that was that was 1191 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 4: pretty much same routine. Never it never really changes. 1192 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 1: Would it be a mistake for the NFL will expand 1193 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,240 Speaker 1: to eighteen games? 1194 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's all been. It's like, I don't really 1195 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 4: see the purpose of a preseason game. You know, it's 1196 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 4: like it's really a waste of time because you're going 1197 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 4: out there. But it's you know, it's a waste of 1198 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 4: time in a sense. But you also you question some 1199 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 4: people's dreams that don't have a chance to play it, 1200 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 4: you know, so that could be their moment, that their opportunity, 1201 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 4: so where they gonna get their opportunity, where they're gonna 1202 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,240 Speaker 4: get the opportunity to showcase you know that they belong 1203 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 4: in the league. And so I think preseason is good 1204 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 4: for that. As far as playing, I don't see it. 1205 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 4: I see you can probably get one preseason game in 1206 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 4: and get to it, you know, just gets a long 1207 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 4: season get to it. 1208 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones has been vocal on the record talking about 1209 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 2: that CTE doesn't exist. He got it also matter have 1210 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: you had any former teammates that maybe suffering from it 1211 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 2: or close personal friends that played the game that may 1212 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: be suffering from it? 1213 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,439 Speaker 4: Man, it's like, I think it does exist. I think 1214 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,439 Speaker 4: it's something because you don't go from you know, being 1215 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 4: a certain type of person and then as the years 1216 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 4: go on, you turn into something totally different. 1217 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: So there's something there, you know. 1218 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 4: And if you think it's not real, just compared to 1219 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 4: the normal person that's twenty years old and then go 1220 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 4: to when he's thirty years old and see if they 1221 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 4: act the same. If everything's the same, you know, you know, 1222 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 4: like the human body not made to hit a running 1223 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 4: to each other, So how can you expect not nothing 1224 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 4: to be there. But as a business person, you're gonna 1225 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 4: try to protect your best interest at all time. But 1226 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 4: at some point you have to get to the facts, 1227 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 4: and the facts are it's something there that things happening. 1228 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 4: They're doing a lot of things to prevent a lot 1229 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 4: of stuff that's happening, and it's gonna be an ongoing battle. 1230 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 4: You know, if you're gonna pay, if you're gonna do 1231 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 4: something that goes against what the human body is made 1232 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 4: for expect something to happen. 1233 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: I got a form of it. I just don't know 1234 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: what I got, but I got it. Not even played 1235 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: for because you was dropped on your head too much. 1236 00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 3: As maybe I just was born with it. Burn Yeah, 1237 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 3: Burn quick hitters, Mount Rushmore of running backs. Oh Man 1238 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 3: had one. 1239 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: Time. 1240 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 4: Like man, you always got to give people the respect, 1241 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 4: you know, like it's Barry, Emmitt Walter, however you want 1242 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 4: to put it, and Jim Brown, like you put all 1243 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 4: them in the group right there. I think anybody that 1244 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 4: plays the game, you study the game, you start looking 1245 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 4: at the evolution of the game for them. 1246 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: Before you got to put in there. 1247 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 4: You got you gotta put them for whatever way you 1248 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 4: want to put it, that's up you for form Burry 1249 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 4: to play that loan and still sustain. Man, it's like 1250 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 4: that that says like for Jim Brown. To Jim Brown 1251 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 4: could have crushed every record and just walked away, he 1252 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 4: became like even a greater man. Yeah, he became this 1253 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 4: person that understood, you know, things in this country wasn't right. 1254 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 1: You know, Barry walked away. 1255 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 4: You know, Barry could have kept playing, but Barry was 1256 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 4: in a situation where you know, it took its toll 1257 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 4: on him. And then Walter Payton, you know Walter Payton, Man, 1258 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 4: that was like that was my number one. He was 1259 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 4: always like it was him, you know, that was that 1260 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 4: was the one that I watched. So I think, I 1261 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 4: think if you go anything beyond those four, you know 1262 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 4: you're getting out of pocket. 1263 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, but that's that's the 1264 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: top four. You stuck on the island. Three shows or 1265 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: movies in rotation. 1266 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 8: I'm gonna watch Coming to America, gotta be the original. 1267 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 7: Watch like Belly, like movie like. I like the classics. 1268 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 7: I watched all classics, stuck on them. 1269 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: One album you could listen to, No Skips, No Skips, 1270 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: Tupac West coastmin Heavy out here for something. 1271 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, childhood crush. 1272 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: I ain't had no childhood crush. I wanted some money. 1273 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 8: Mann think about that man guilty pleasure. 1274 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 4: I like being outside, man Like, I like like, I'm 1275 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 4: gonna be in the clubs one night life. It's like, 1276 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 4: I just like being out with the people. You know, 1277 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 4: it might it might not be the safest environment, but 1278 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm won't be outside. 1279 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be outside. I won't be outside. One guess 1280 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 3: you would like to see on our show, but you 1281 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 3: have to help us get your answer on the show. 1282 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 9: Somebody get Pee money, get money, Get Pee money, man, 1283 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 9: Peyton Money, get money. 1284 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm put president what to. 1285 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 3: Call for pre money because I know P Money know 1286 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 3: that I want him on the show. He gonna come. 1287 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 3: I just ain't seen P Money years. But you Money 1288 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 3: used to rock with us heavy he moneys to rock 1289 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 3: with now. 1290 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 2: Don't trip Money needs to be in the clubs parted 1291 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 2: with P Money too? 1292 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah money silent man, don't get pe money srew up? 1293 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: Man for money. Real money is real and you need 1294 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,439 Speaker 1: to second solid dude as man. We appreciate your time. 1295 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: Man, best of luck with all the endeavors, fatherhood, business 1296 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 2: and everything else. And James, yeah, looking for way to 1297 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 2: the lead. We're looking for you man. We're best of 1298 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 2: luck with everything man, and thank you for your time. 1299 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate you.