Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to okay F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody actually recording live from the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bunker. UM, folks, I want to start off today's
Speaker 1: show with an apology. UM. Last week ended in such
Speaker 1: an incredible uproar both just I mean, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't even need to go into detail. There was just
Speaker 1: a lot of emotion, a lot of things transpired, a
Speaker 1: lot of news broke, and in the midst of that, UM,
Speaker 1: we lost track of the fact that we hadn't recorded
Speaker 1: UM today's opening. And you know, but realizing that both
Speaker 1: myself and my producer Andrew, who is who makes the
Speaker 1: show UM go up and happen on a regular basis,
Speaker 1: we're exhausted and so took the weekend and then surprise
Speaker 1: didn't realize ahead of time that we hadn't put up
Speaker 1: today's show. So that is the reason why it is late.
Speaker 1: I asked that you give the both of us grace
Speaker 1: because it's something you know, we take our work, We
Speaker 1: take this work, particularly in this time, incredibly seriously. We
Speaker 1: also take our mental health and our rest serious as well.
Speaker 1: And in our rush to put the week behind us,
Speaker 1: you know, were didn't, you know, forgot things and that happens.
Speaker 1: So I say that to say I appreciate all of you.
Speaker 1: You are important to us, to me, and we will
Speaker 1: do our best to make sure in the future that
Speaker 1: that does not happen again. All right, So over the weekend,
Speaker 1: I really do hope that you all took a much
Speaker 1: needed break from the news. Too many people, too many
Speaker 1: of my friends did not and were glued to Twitter
Speaker 1: and we're glued to Instagram and we're glued to the news.
Speaker 1: And it was a lot and I got a lot
Speaker 1: of messages sent to me by you know, various people
Speaker 1: in particular, talking about what they are seeing as even
Speaker 1: a more egregious act on top of the horrific images
Speaker 1: that we had seen since Russia, since Putin. I will
Speaker 1: say I'm not going to you know, I'm also going
Speaker 1: to be mindful, more mindful than the mainstream media. This
Speaker 1: is not Russian aggression against the Ukraine. This is Putin's
Speaker 1: aggression against the Ukraine. And the fact is that his
Speaker 1: own country is not behind him. That we have seen massive,
Speaker 1: massive historic protests taking place in Estonia, taking place in Amsterdam,
Speaker 1: taking place all over the world, take place here in
Speaker 1: New York City. Massive protests taking place in Russia where
Speaker 1: the penalty, the penalty for this type of you know,
Speaker 1: domestic disobedience right can meet you with not only physical scars,
Speaker 1: but emotional ones as well. We're talking about an environment
Speaker 1: where it is illegal for you to protest, right that
Speaker 1: you can be slapped with fines and jail time or worse,
Speaker 1: depending on you know, how favorable the police and the
Speaker 1: government are feeling to you at that time. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what it is like, what it is going
Speaker 1: to be like to live in a country whose leader
Speaker 1: gets to do whatever the fuck they want, right, and
Speaker 1: there is no there there is no accountability, right, they're
Speaker 1: accountable to no one but themselves. And by virtue of
Speaker 1: the Russian people risking their own safety and lives in
Speaker 1: order to say to show the world right that we
Speaker 1: are not with this man. Is courage beyond. Right, is
Speaker 1: courage beyond And you know, when we are watching and
Speaker 1: seeing images of Ukrainian people, you know, taking up arms, right,
Speaker 1: they told, they said to all of the men in
Speaker 1: the country, if you are of you know, fighting age,
Speaker 1: that you can send your family, you know, off to safety,
Speaker 1: but you must stay here and defend your country, and
Speaker 1: there are many women that are doing the same. There
Speaker 1: are many old people older than that can fight that
Speaker 1: are doing the same, that are like, we're not going
Speaker 1: out like this. And I think that the extraordinary courage
Speaker 1: that they're showing, the bravery is amazing, but it is
Speaker 1: also they shouldn't have been put in that position. No
Speaker 1: one should be put in that position. And what pains
Speaker 1: me right now about the mainstream news, And I know
Speaker 1: that I oftentimes rail against mainstream media because I think
Speaker 1: that when you have tens of millions of people watching
Speaker 1: your shows, watching your networks, and you are so fucking
Speaker 1: irresponsible in your coverage, right, you are the perpetuator of
Speaker 1: white supremacy. You are the perpetuator of stereotypes and lies.
Speaker 1: You tell me why in this country where we have
Speaker 1: just a significant population of Ethiopians, just as significant population
Speaker 1: right to those that are in the Ukraine, why you
Speaker 1: don't cover how their countries are being ravaged by war.
Speaker 1: Why it is okay to say, oh my god, when
Speaker 1: you look at the whiteness of these people's skin and
Speaker 1: you say, how could this happen? How could this be
Speaker 1: happening to them? But it's something that you assume would
Speaker 1: happen to Ethiopians or Palestinians or you know, Persians or
Speaker 1: what have you. Like, you assume, you know aura and
Speaker 1: tragedy in those areas of the world. But oh, if
Speaker 1: it happens to be in an area that is predominantly white, right,
Speaker 1: then oh my god, we must do all the coverage
Speaker 1: because stuff like this just doesn't happen here. So what
Speaker 1: you're saying, right, And Amanda Sials, who I cannot stand
Speaker 1: the actress Amanda Seals, but I thank my friend Alicia
Speaker 1: who sent me the video of her. Amanda Sials said, So,
Speaker 1: what you are saying then, is that these other people
Speaker 1: in these other countries, in these other parts of the
Speaker 1: world are not civil like, they're not real people, right,
Speaker 1: They're not people worthy of empathy, they're not people worthy
Speaker 1: of of compassion, they're not people worthy of value in
Speaker 1: terms of coverage, right, And so how do you change
Speaker 1: the perception of regions and certain countries by humanizing them?
Speaker 1: And mainstream media has the opportunity and dare I say,
Speaker 1: the fucking obligation to do so, but they don't because
Speaker 1: those that are sitting in the c suites look and
Speaker 1: are white and are addicted to whiteness, right and the
Speaker 1: power thereof. And any time that someone else says, well
Speaker 1: what about everybody else? Oh, why do you have to
Speaker 1: bring race into it? Understand that race is brought into
Speaker 1: every fucking thing by virtue of you being intentional or not.
Speaker 1: So you can be intentional about what is missing, what
Speaker 1: perspectives are missing, what coverage is missing, or you can
Speaker 1: just choose not to cover it at all, but understand
Speaker 1: that the decisions that you are making are decisions that
Speaker 1: are built and based on race and racism, which brings
Speaker 1: me to what people have been sending me all weekend long.
Speaker 1: There are horrible stories once again coming out of the
Speaker 1: bordering nations to the Ukraine that are white nations that
Speaker 1: are turning away immigrants of color, namely African immigrants, right,
Speaker 1: Latins immigrants, Muslim immigrants, right, that they are turning people
Speaker 1: away and letting the white Ukrainians pass. But all of
Speaker 1: those other people that happen to be in the Ukraine
Speaker 1: that are also human fucking beings, that are also fleeing
Speaker 1: violence and looking for safety with their families and are
Speaker 1: literally and figuratively being left out in the cold because
Speaker 1: they are looking at them, looking with tears and fear
Speaker 1: in their eyes and saying that your melanin does not
Speaker 1: match what we want in our country. And I tweeted
Speaker 1: this weekend and I said, why is it so difficult
Speaker 1: for white people to be decent? And I am asking
Speaker 1: that question outright, why is it so difficult to just
Speaker 1: be fucking kind to people who are not white? I
Speaker 1: don't get it. I really don't. And as a black
Speaker 1: person in this world, not just in this country, but
Speaker 1: in this world, living in this black body, knowing that everyone,
Speaker 1: everyone fucking hates you, you have no idea what that
Speaker 1: feels like. By virtue of nothing other than your existence
Speaker 1: in a black body, that you are dismissed in your
Speaker 1: moment of need because your moment of need cannot possibly
Speaker 1: be the same as what the white person that is
Speaker 1: fleeing along next to you. It's disgusting. And for people
Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, why do we have to bring
Speaker 1: race into Why the fuck do you have to bring
Speaker 1: race into it? Why is it so difficult for white people,
Speaker 1: not just in America but around the world to see
Speaker 1: black people and other people of color as people worthy
Speaker 1: of safety, of shelter, of compassion, of empathy, of love.
Speaker 1: Why is that so difficult? How is it that your
Speaker 1: reptilian brain right which is functioning on flight flight and
Speaker 1: flight mode? How is it that you don't look at
Speaker 1: the person next to you who is doing the same
Speaker 1: and say, how can I help you? Because you are
Speaker 1: my brother and my sister in tragedy at this time
Speaker 1: that we are forging a bond that others will not
Speaker 1: be able to see or understand unless they are in
Speaker 1: literally these shoes. But no, in the midst of tragedy,
Speaker 1: you find time to create more tragedy, and that, to
Speaker 1: me is outrageous. Don't talk to me about people's borders
Speaker 1: being overwhelmed, and don't talk to me about COVID, because
Speaker 1: when you are letting in thousands and thousands of white
Speaker 1: people and denying everybody else, you are sending a very
Speaker 1: clear message and we get it. But don't think that
Speaker 1: you're going to do so over the cloak of darkness
Speaker 1: or be able to make up an excuse other than
Speaker 1: the one that's staring us all in the fucking face.
Speaker 1: You know, we cannot change this shit because we have
Speaker 1: mainstream media that is complicit in it, that will come
Speaker 1: up for every excuse as to why this certain group
Speaker 1: of people that are African, that are Arab, that are whatever,
Speaker 1: are savages, not worthy of safety. But oh look and
Speaker 1: let me tell you these heartbreaking stories about white families.
Speaker 1: It is a self perpetuating prophecy, over and over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. And I for one, am going
Speaker 1: to consistently and outright call bullshit all the fucking time,
Speaker 1: because the only people that consistently harp on and bring
Speaker 1: up and make everything, including policy about race and racism,
Speaker 1: are white people in power, and they would like to
Speaker 1: distract everyone by saying, oh, no, we're not talking about X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z. You think that by leaving it out,
Speaker 1: we don't know what you're doing. It's bullshit. And I
Speaker 1: want people to call the networks. I want people to
Speaker 1: call their representatives. I want people to be called out.
Speaker 1: You know, there are times when we say are we
Speaker 1: calling people out? Are we calling them in? No, in
Speaker 1: this particular situation, I'm calling these bordering countries out. I'm
Speaker 1: calling the media out, I'm calling representatives who do not
Speaker 1: bring attention to this travesty out. Racism is never going
Speaker 1: to die out because it's rebirthed every single day. Oh
Speaker 1: it's the young people they care. No, they don't actually,
Speaker 1: because they've been force fed the same diet of white
Speaker 1: supremacy that you have. But until we acknowledge the truth,
Speaker 1: until we understand how this happened, we're never going to
Speaker 1: stop it. It's never going to ease, not in our lifetime,
Speaker 1: and not in our children's lifetime, and not in our
Speaker 1: children children's lifetime, you know. And this, friends, comes on
Speaker 1: the backdrop of the historic announcement, right, that was made
Speaker 1: on Friday about Biden's Supreme Court nominee. And here's what
Speaker 1: I want to say about Judge Brown. Judge Brown is
Speaker 1: beyond qualified. Right, Judge Brown was chosen because she is
Speaker 1: beyond qualified. Her academic pedigree, her legal pedigree is beyond reproach,
Speaker 1: unlike the pieces of shit that Republicans put up by
Speaker 1: virtue of their whiteness. Oh, they're qualified, not according to
Speaker 1: the American Bar Association. And once again at the highest level.
Speaker 1: I just want to show people how black people need
Speaker 1: to be over qualified for shit that mediocre white people
Speaker 1: are given by virtue of the relationships that they have. Right,
Speaker 1: you have to have a pedigree beyond reproach when you
Speaker 1: are black in this country. But you can scream on
Speaker 1: the top of your lungs, show the uttermost disrespect and
Speaker 1: hostile demeanor as a Brett Kavanaugh did, and become Supreme
Speaker 1: become a judge, become a Supreme Court Judge of the
Speaker 1: United States. You can be so disgusting and foul as
Speaker 1: a Donald Trump and become president, but you cannot be
Speaker 1: overly qualified for the position and be a woman as
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. You are hidden away in the attic of
Speaker 1: the White House if you are the black woman vice president,
Speaker 1: only brought out for pageantry to say, look at the
Speaker 1: history that we have, and then let's quickly put her
Speaker 1: back in the attic for before white people realize that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden had a black woman as his running mate.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the fucking lies because they're so blatant,
Speaker 1: it's a cartoonish At this fucking point, again, you want
Speaker 1: me to believe that this administration is so much better
Speaker 1: than the other ones, and yet we have had to
Speaker 1: put the vice president on a milk carton, wondering where
Speaker 1: the fuck she is and why she isn't being utilized
Speaker 1: for anything other than these flash moments where race is
Speaker 1: really at play and you want to use her for
Speaker 1: your own pageantry, and then you want to tell these
Speaker 1: very same people whose needs you've been denying, overlooking and ignoring, that, oh,
Speaker 1: if we lose the upcoming midterm elections, it's going to
Speaker 1: be your fault. No, it's going to be your fault,
Speaker 1: mister President, It's going to be your fault. There are
Speaker 1: so many days where I am utterly just beside myself done,
Speaker 1: you know, because it is everywhere. Right. I keep rewatching
Speaker 1: The Matrix over and over again, the whole series, the
Speaker 1: new one, just I keep watching it over and over
Speaker 1: again because racism is very much like the Matrix. When
Speaker 1: Laurence Fishburn's character Morpheus says in The First Matrix to Neo,
Speaker 1: the matrix is all around you. It is what you eat,
Speaker 1: it is what you taste, it is on your clo
Speaker 1: it is everywhere, and it's hard to explain it unless
Speaker 1: you're in it. That is what it is like to
Speaker 1: deal with racism in this world as a black person.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if you are black, American, Black, Caribbean, Afro Latina, right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you are from directly from one
Speaker 1: of the nations of Africa. Does not matter. To exist
Speaker 1: in a black body in this world is to understand
Speaker 1: what it is like to live in the matrix of
Speaker 1: racism day in and day out, sometimes subtle, sometimes just
Speaker 1: a series of microaggressions, of purses being closed, of being
Speaker 1: followed around stores. Right then it escalates into being shot
Speaker 1: in your own car, or in your own bed, or
Speaker 1: on the playground. But it is all around sound you,
Speaker 1: all the time. And it is your responsibility and yours
Speaker 1: alone to go through this matrix and somehow come out
Speaker 1: alive with your emotional well being intact. So forgive us
Speaker 1: right for the consistent exhaustion that we are exhibiting these days,
Speaker 1: because going through the Olympics, the matrix of racism, day
Speaker 1: in and day out, is taking its fucking toll. And
Speaker 1: this is why I have said many times that for
Speaker 1: black folks, for people of color in this country that
Speaker 1: are deciding that they don't want to fucking vote, I
Speaker 1: hear you, that are opting out of giving a fuck,
Speaker 1: I hear you. I want to tell you right that
Speaker 1: we are not just fighting for our generation that we
Speaker 1: are living in, but for the general rations to come right.
Speaker 1: And this is our part of the marathon that may
Speaker 1: never be completed, but I want to do I want
Speaker 1: to run my leg the best that I can, but
Speaker 1: there are going to be days where I'm going to
Speaker 1: put my feet up and let somebody else run it
Speaker 1: because I too need to rest. Because sometimes it feels
Speaker 1: like that racism matrix is just closing in in every
Speaker 1: fucking direction and I literally cannot breathe. I've been saying
Speaker 1: for a long time on this show that things are
Speaker 1: going to get bloodier before they get better, and we
Speaker 1: are seeing that happen all around us. We're seeing escalations
Speaker 1: of violence in our own country. And what I will
Speaker 1: say about that is, again, mainstream media doesn't use the
Speaker 1: same language it uses for other countries when they are
Speaker 1: seeing great upheavals and political decline. They don't use that
Speaker 1: same language here. They don't talk about invasions right invasions
Speaker 1: in the United States. But I want us to be
Speaker 1: very clear about the fact that the insurrection that occurred
Speaker 1: was not the first invasion that we had seen over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. No, there have been state
Speaker 1: capital buildings that have been taken over. There is currently
Speaker 1: a fucking caravan of Trumpers headed from California to Washington,
Speaker 1: DC to pull an Ottawa, Canada. In Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: We are being invaded, right, These people have their guns.
Speaker 1: They have been holding buildings hostage, only to have some
Speaker 1: plan disrupted on kidnapping elected officials. But yet you want
Speaker 1: to look down on countries like Haiti. You want to
Speaker 1: call out countries like Colombia, like the Ukraine, like Russia,
Speaker 1: but you don't are not paying attention to what the
Speaker 1: fuck is escalating up in here. Have eyes on everybody else,
Speaker 1: got opinions on everybody else, but don't paying attention to
Speaker 1: what is happening in your own country, thinking that we're
Speaker 1: still beyond reproach. Wait the fuck up. So when you're
Speaker 1: watching the news, call out the fucking news, tweet them out,
Speaker 1: Oh really, at CNN, at MSNBC. Really, because we forget
Speaker 1: how much power we have as a collective. That's the
Speaker 1: point of this show, that's the point of my work
Speaker 1: in general, is for people to recognize no, no, no right,
Speaker 1: nobody's steals your vote, if your vote ain't valuable, nobody
Speaker 1: tries to lock up and incarcerrat and minimize and depress
Speaker 1: and opress black people. If you didn't think as a
Speaker 1: collective we were powerful, and you were that fucking fragile
Speaker 1: so when we really see things, I want us to
Speaker 1: see it with eyes wide open. I want us to
Speaker 1: understand all of the levers, all of the systems that
Speaker 1: are at play at the same time, so that we
Speaker 1: can figure out our way through because we ain't getting
Speaker 1: over this. The only way that we are moving forward
Speaker 1: is through right, and that is going to be like
Speaker 1: going through a motherfucking tornado. We gotta get ready, folks.
Speaker 1: What a week, What a week. It has been always
Speaker 1: excited to have the opportunity to speak with our dear
Speaker 1: friend MSNBC legal analyst and the host of Justice Matters,
Speaker 1: Glenn Kirshner, to walk us through. I mean from my
Speaker 1: outrage last week at the news breaking around the two
Speaker 1: lead prosecutors in the Manhattan District Attorney's case, which was
Speaker 1: initially in the hands of Sythance. Since the election, the
Speaker 1: Manhattan DA has changed batons to Alvin Bragg, and there
Speaker 1: has always been hope. And what was announced before Syvance left, Glenn,
Speaker 1: is that you know, we had the Manhattan District Attorney
Speaker 1: working hand in hand with New York State Attorney General
Speaker 1: Tissie James. What I have you have? What you have
Speaker 1: I have, which made us believe that in New York, right,
Speaker 1: maybe just possibly, accountability and justice was actually going to
Speaker 1: come to fruition. Then bombshell, the two lead prosecutors resign.
Speaker 1: So far they have said what has been said, I
Speaker 1: should say, is that they are resigning because after a
Speaker 1: month of no movement that they have heard or were
Speaker 1: told that it is of doubt that the Manhattander's office
Speaker 1: will move forward with their case. What are you think?
Speaker 1: What initially did you think and feel? And then what
Speaker 1: are you feeling at the offices pushback and saying oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not true. Yeah, there's so much to unpack in
Speaker 1: this story. Who thought that, you know, accountability and justice
Speaker 1: would be this darned part on every single front. You know,
Speaker 1: accountability really shouldn't be too much to ask for when
Speaker 1: our high government officials just go on an unabated crime spree,
Speaker 1: which has been Donald Trump's life, let's face it. So
Speaker 1: my heart sank when I saw that the two you know,
Speaker 1: long time prosecutors. I can't call Pomerants a career prosecutor
Speaker 1: because even though he was a white collar prosecutor, a
Speaker 1: mob prosecutor when he was with the Southern District of
Speaker 1: New York Us Attorney's office. He then went over to
Speaker 1: the other side. I tried never to call it the
Speaker 1: dark side. When you go to do defense work and
Speaker 1: you defend the people who have been everybody is deserving right,
Speaker 1: everybody's deserves it. And I really believe everybody deserves a
Speaker 1: fair defense, and I embrace it and I'll fight for it.
Speaker 1: You're just not going to get that fair defense from
Speaker 1: me because I'm comfortable trying to hold folk accountable for
Speaker 1: their crimes and protect the community. So but these were
Speaker 1: two long term serious prosecutors, pomerants and done. And then
Speaker 1: when I saw that they they coordinated their resignations at
Speaker 1: the same time, obviously to make a point, and the
Speaker 1: news broke that that point was Alvin Bragg didn't seem
Speaker 1: determined enough or committed enough, or persuaded that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: himself should be prosecuted, should be held accountable. Let's stop
Speaker 1: right there, Danielle, because I find it, as a former
Speaker 1: career prosecutor, impossible to believe, not just difficult to believe
Speaker 1: that the Trump organization that was run in dictator fashion
Speaker 1: by Donald Trump could be criminally indicted for a fifteen
Speaker 1: year long criminal scheme to defraud in the first degree.
Speaker 1: That Donald Trump's right hand man, Alan Weisselberg, chief financial
Speaker 1: officer for the Trump organization for decades, could similarly be
Speaker 1: convicted of a fifteen year criminal scheme to defraud in
Speaker 1: the first degree and lots of other crimes. And we
Speaker 1: just don't have the goods on Donald Trump. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that for a minute. I will not impugne Alvin
Speaker 1: Braggs morals or integrity. I don't know what is behind
Speaker 1: this dust up, this considerable dustup in the New York
Speaker 1: District Attorney's office, but they better write their ship because
Speaker 1: it feels wrong. It smells wrong, it looks wrong. Now,
Speaker 1: like you say, they're trying to back up in a hurry,
Speaker 1: and they just announced that they've appointed a new chief
Speaker 1: prosecutor whose name is Susan Huffington. I'm sorry, Susan Huffinger,
Speaker 1: and so I'm doing some combat research on her. And
Speaker 1: what we know is that, yes, she did prosecute in
Speaker 1: that office previously for eight years, back in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: two to two thousand, and then for the last twenty
Speaker 1: two years, she's been in private practice making lots of money,
Speaker 1: I assume representing whomever I don't know, because I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say, because I don't know, that does and
Speaker 1: give me an enormous comfort level that Alan Bragg a politician,
Speaker 1: also a serious consequential lawyer and former prosecutor himself. But
Speaker 1: once you start running for office, Danielle, you're a politician.
Speaker 1: He gets elected, he comes in and in one of
Speaker 1: the most consequential investigations and prosecutions New York has ever seen.
Speaker 1: He says, Yeah, I'm not feeling going after Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: That that doesn't make sense to me, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: give me a ton of confidence that he has now
Speaker 1: brought back after twenty two years in private practice. Somebody
Speaker 1: who I'll bet, if we dig down, was probably a
Speaker 1: big supporter of his in his campaign. We'll have to
Speaker 1: find out. I'll always say, follow the money. There's a
Speaker 1: team of twenty five. It's just a district attorneys dedicated
Speaker 1: to the Trump investigation and the Trump Org and Weislberg prosecutions.
Speaker 1: That's a huge team of local prosecutors of New York
Speaker 1: State secutors, and she's going to head up that team.
Speaker 1: Let's hope that they get this thing back on track
Speaker 1: if it has fallen off the tracks. And continue to
Speaker 1: follow the facts and follow the evidence wherever it leads,
Speaker 1: because if they do, it's going to lead to an
Speaker 1: indictment of Donald Trump. And as long as they don't,
Speaker 1: you know, start to throw politics into the mix, then
Speaker 1: hopefully we're still going to be okay. But this, you know,
Speaker 1: justice took a bit of a blow in the last
Speaker 1: couple of days. You know, I'm telling you that every
Speaker 1: time I talk to you, it seems like justice is
Speaker 1: getting the help beat out of it. Right. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought that one of the most pointed tweets that
Speaker 1: I saw when this news broke and everyone who's been
Speaker 1: following this took a collective gas was Ejeene Carrol. Ejeene Carroll,
Speaker 1: who has accused Donald Trump of sexual assault, right, and
Speaker 1: then because of them, what is it the term? Right?
Speaker 1: The statutory limitations on that charge? Then was suing him for?
Speaker 1: Was it defamation? Defamation and libel? So Ejean Carol tweets
Speaker 1: out and she's like, my god, will anybody stand up
Speaker 1: to this man and hold this man accountable? Right? And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, So, if I'm Ejeing Carol and
Speaker 1: I'm one of the twenty some odd women that have
Speaker 1: accused Donald Trump of sexual assault. And then you have
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice that had decided to defend Donald
Speaker 1: Trump against Eejean Carol and not Trump's Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: Biden's Department of Justice deciding that this would be the
Speaker 1: case that they would take up to represent Donald Trump
Speaker 1: in defend defend him against the claims that they know,
Speaker 1: good god damn well that this man is guilty of.
Speaker 1: So when you take that and then you take this,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying to myself, and I said it on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I say to people, you know, you need to follow
Speaker 1: the money, because it was our conversation Glenn where you
Speaker 1: alerted me to the fact of where did Sivance get
Speaker 1: some of his donations from? Right Like this is these
Speaker 1: are literally open secrets that nobody does the due diligence
Speaker 1: of digging into and figuring out. How would you with
Speaker 1: impaneling this grand jury for an extended period of time
Speaker 1: that your predecessor did, because there is so much information
Speaker 1: to go through that in this finite amount of time,
Speaker 1: like we are literally working against the clock, how would
Speaker 1: it make sense, Glenn, for you to just slow walk
Speaker 1: for an entire month allow an entire month when your
Speaker 1: predecessor impaneled a grand jury for an extended period of
Speaker 1: time for you to waste that time. How does that
Speaker 1: make like, Is there a way that makes sense that
Speaker 1: actually smells right. No, But here's what I'll say. Anytime
Speaker 1: there is turnover at the top of a significant prosecutorial organization,
Speaker 1: whether it's a district attorney's office or my former office,
Speaker 1: the US Attorney's office for the District of Columbia. I
Speaker 1: served there under ten US attorneys. All of them were
Speaker 1: appointed by the President, were confirmed by the Senate. Some
Speaker 1: came from Republican administration, some from Democratic administrations. Every last
Speaker 1: one of them would come in and would shake things up,
Speaker 1: would put their own kind of make their own mark
Speaker 1: on the organization, would change priorities, would shift focus, would
Speaker 1: do and that results in some turnover. That's natural. The same,
Speaker 1: I'm sure is true of a district attorney's office when
Speaker 1: a new district attorney is elected. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to get derailed over the wisdom of having, you know,
Speaker 1: people like district attorneys and judges be elected rather than appointed,
Speaker 1: because there is a friction there between the responsibilities of
Speaker 1: a judge and a district Jerney, both of whom need
Speaker 1: to do justice fairly and impartially without you know, fear
Speaker 1: or favor or prejudice. And when you're running for office,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be tough on prime I'm gonna lock them
Speaker 1: all up. I'm gonna Well, there's an inconsistency there from
Speaker 1: my perspective, setting that aside. A new district attorney comes in,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a shakeup, they're gonna be new priorities announced.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't surprise me that there's turnover. But this
Speaker 1: turnover would not be the turnover I would expect, particularly
Speaker 1: if Alvin Bragg was a savvy politician, never mind a
Speaker 1: savvy district attorney. You know. So, yeah, this is there's
Speaker 1: no way to look at this through a rose colored
Speaker 1: lens and say, you know what, this is actually a
Speaker 1: good thing or an okay thing. This is a bad thing.
Speaker 1: But we don't want to lose sight of the really
Speaker 1: good things that have happened in the last week. I
Speaker 1: think I lose act of the days. Some of this
Speaker 1: happened eight days ago. But I mean what Judge Mata
Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, a former a former public defender in
Speaker 1: the courts of DC. I know the good judge. He
Speaker 1: is a serious man, a serious jurist, and he takes
Speaker 1: the responsibility of being fair to both sides deadly seriously,
Speaker 1: the prosecution and the defense. And his words in refusing
Speaker 1: to throw out the insurrection lawsuit against Donald Trump, his
Speaker 1: words were that Donald Trump's January sixth speech were the
Speaker 1: essence of civil conspiracy. Daniel from a federal judge, that
Speaker 1: couldn't be more ominous or more dangerous for Donald Trump
Speaker 1: because he's shining a light on a roadmap to prosecuting
Speaker 1: Donald Trump for inciting an insurrection. That was a huge development,
Speaker 1: bigger than was the New York Strict Attorney's development. One
Speaker 1: was good, one was bad. The other thing is we
Speaker 1: can't forget another judge in New York. Judge En Garon
Speaker 1: said in telling Trump and Don Junior and Ivanka, you
Speaker 1: will sit for depositions period, and I will not throw
Speaker 1: out a lawsuit because you claimed. Tish James doesn't like you.
Speaker 1: She ain't supposed to like criminals. That was my editor
Speaker 1: but I did say precisely, he said, I reviewed thousands
Speaker 1: of documents in camera behind closed doors that had been
Speaker 1: subpoena by attorney General James Civil investigators, and then he
Speaker 1: commented that she had uncovered quote copious amounts of possible
Speaker 1: no copious evidence of possible financial fraud. I don't use
Speaker 1: twenty five cent words. I'm a gutter kid from Jersey.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say copious. I would say tons of fricking
Speaker 1: evidence of financial fraud by Trump and company. Danielle that
Speaker 1: motion that was being litigated, where Judge en Grons spit
Speaker 1: those words out, that's a routine motion to quash a subpoena.
Speaker 1: Happens thousands of times around the country every day. Judges
Speaker 1: don't say things like that, They just either grant or
Speaker 1: deny the motion. Judge Endgron was so incensed that not
Speaker 1: only did he say that, but he said if Tish
Speaker 1: James hadn't investigated this and hadn't subpoena at these three,
Speaker 1: it would have been a dereliction of duke of duty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are dramatically bad developments for Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and these are paving the way for accountability for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: But then we are now focused on the New York DA,
Speaker 1: you know, troubling development, and we can't lose sight of
Speaker 1: the really good developments. Let me ask you this because
Speaker 1: you know, like I said at the top, what was
Speaker 1: good a couple of months ago is when we learned
Speaker 1: the public learned that there was going to be co
Speaker 1: ordination between the Manhattan District Attorney and the New York
Speaker 1: Attorney General's Office. What do we make right? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about what if any coordination
Speaker 1: we can anticipate? Or because we know that Tish James's
Speaker 1: route is a civil one, right it is. It is
Speaker 1: not jail time. It is fine. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to you know, I don't want to undercut that because
Speaker 1: she got Trump University shut down, right like, so there
Speaker 1: is an opportunity here to have the whole entirety of
Speaker 1: Trump organization shut down, have its doors shuttered. It doesn't
Speaker 1: preclude it from being able to open up under a
Speaker 1: different you know, under a different title, in a different
Speaker 1: space and all of those things. And no one is
Speaker 1: doing a purp walk. But where does she bring all
Speaker 1: of the evidence that she has collected if she's met
Speaker 1: with a oh no, we're good here from the Manhattan DA.
Speaker 1: Great question, and it really depends on I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: say the personality of Alvin Bragg and whether he is
Speaker 1: going to you know, kind of hold closely his investigation
Speaker 1: and not want to play nice with his counterpart, New
Speaker 1: York Attorney General Tis James, or if he's going to
Speaker 1: do what public servants should and must do, sort of
Speaker 1: work cooperatively and as a team the way we came
Speaker 1: to learn, the AG's office in the DA's office had
Speaker 1: been working and stay that course. And on the shutting
Speaker 1: down Trump Universe, Trump organization front, Trump organization is done.
Speaker 1: I would bet a buck on that. That's because Mazar's,
Speaker 1: his accounting firm, not only walked away from him, but said,
Speaker 1: we disavowed ten years of work we've done for you,
Speaker 1: because inferentially you've been feeding us garbage numbers, unreliable numbers
Speaker 1: on the financial front. And they flipped on him, Make
Speaker 1: no mistake about it, they flipped on him. The Trump
Speaker 1: organization has done one way or another, I have no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But as you say, Tis James largely
Speaker 1: only has civil jurisdiction, with a little bit of an exception.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of criminal statutes that she can
Speaker 1: use to go after businesses who are engaged in criminal practices,
Speaker 1: financial accounting practices and all and that actually is a
Speaker 1: little bit of criminal jurisdiction she can exercise. So that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of an ace in the whole for her.
Speaker 1: But we expect the lion's share of the criminal charges
Speaker 1: to be brought by the District Attorney's office. I can
Speaker 1: only hope Alvin Bragg is the kind of person who
Speaker 1: will embrace as a teammate, a full teammate, Tish James
Speaker 1: and her investigators and her lawyers, and they will get
Speaker 1: back on track and proceed together. You know, I can
Speaker 1: tell you that the sentiment about Alvin Bragg here in
Speaker 1: New York is that he is making enemies on every
Speaker 1: single side, and that clearly, and again I do not
Speaker 1: know him, but my job is to speculate, is that
Speaker 1: I don't know what job he thought that he signed
Speaker 1: up for, but he is not doing it. And I
Speaker 1: think that he, you know, by virtue of their pivot
Speaker 1: with regard to no no, no no no, I know,
Speaker 1: the two you know, the two leads quit, but oh
Speaker 1: we're still doing the thing. Um shows you that he
Speaker 1: didn't he didn't anticipate how this was going to play
Speaker 1: out and how it was going to look. As if
Speaker 1: he thought that nobody was paying attention to the most
Speaker 1: watched case outside of Georgia, right to the most watched case.
Speaker 1: So I think that the calculation on his part shows
Speaker 1: that he is not at the big kids table. And
Speaker 1: that's that is words coming out of my mouth. Um,
Speaker 1: let's hope he grows in the job. Though we can
Speaker 1: all grow in the job. Yes, right, let's hope he
Speaker 1: grows in the job. Yeah, so right before I let
Speaker 1: you go, Um, Glenn also got lost in the news.
Speaker 1: Ivanka Trump going to be interviewed before the Commission. Thoughts
Speaker 1: on that, Um, I think it's good. Now let's see
Speaker 1: how forthcoming she will be. And I have a feeling
Speaker 1: this is what I'm beginning to sense. And I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Rudy Giuliani's potential appearance before the House
Speaker 1: Select Committee in a second, if we have time. But
Speaker 1: my senses, the House Select Committee is not treating these
Speaker 1: people the way prosecutors would treat them. Prosecutors say, take
Speaker 1: it from me. You want to cooperate, you want to
Speaker 1: provide information. You don't get to determine what questions you
Speaker 1: answer and what questions you don't. The prosecutors will ask
Speaker 1: you the questions we believe are relevant to our investigation.
Speaker 1: I think the House Select Committee is carving out niches
Speaker 1: where they can get really potentially damning damning information out
Speaker 1: of the witnesses without necessarily trailing off into areas that
Speaker 1: might incriminate the witnesses. The House Select Committee has the
Speaker 1: opportunity to proceed that way, where prosecutors generally don't. It's
Speaker 1: kind of an all or nothing proposition. And if you
Speaker 1: want to invoke the fifth because you committed crime, fine,
Speaker 1: we will either prosecute you and make you a full
Speaker 1: cooperating witness, or we will grant you immunity. It's an
Speaker 1: all or nothing proposition. We don't take half a loaf
Speaker 1: from yeah, this is who have important information. It looks
Speaker 1: like the House Select Committee is taking half a loaf,
Speaker 1: and I do not criticize them for that, because if
Speaker 1: that half a loaf tells us who in the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: for example, is complicit in the insurrection. I want that
Speaker 1: half a loaf and I'll make some nice tasty sandwich.
Speaker 1: Out of sandwich is out of it. Here's what we
Speaker 1: just learned from It's a HUGO Lowell. I think in
Speaker 1: the Guardian yesterday, who's been doing some great outfront reporting
Speaker 1: on the House Select Committee stuff. He said, Rudy Giuliani
Speaker 1: is in the process of negotiating an appearance by which
Speaker 1: he will testify about the complicity of Republican members of
Speaker 1: Congress in the insurrection. Now what does that tell us?
Speaker 1: By inference? I guess he's not going to tell us
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's crimes. But you know what, if he
Speaker 1: tells me about Jim Jordan's crimes, and Kevin McCarthy's crimes,
Speaker 1: and who we go Murts crimes, and Ron Johnson's crop
Speaker 1: and Laura Boubert, whatever the name tell me about all that, Rudy,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. But before I believe a word out
Speaker 1: of Rudy's mouth, if Rudy tells me his full legal
Speaker 1: name is Rudolph William Lewis Giuliani, I'm gonna need him
Speaker 1: to produce again, come assport his birth certificate. And if
Speaker 1: I get three forms of corroboration, then I will believe
Speaker 1: your name is Rudy William Lewis Giuliani. But short of that,
Speaker 1: I'm not believing a word out of your mouth. But
Speaker 1: you know what, the enemy of my enemy may be
Speaker 1: my friend. And if the enemy of my enemy can
Speaker 1: tell me who in Congress is criminally complicit in the insurrection.
Speaker 1: You're darned right. I will talk to even a rudy Giuliani.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Glenn. We're going out on a fire
Speaker 1: note today with some with some fireworks. As always, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you, and let's see what the cards draw for
Speaker 1: us next week. Look forward to talking to you again
Speaker 1: next week, Danielle. And now for your woke moment of wellness, friends,
Speaker 1: I want to share with you that you know, for
Speaker 1: the past couple of months, I had recloistered myself away
Speaker 1: in my home as Amicron was surging in New York,
Speaker 1: and now as we are seeing you know, the CDC
Speaker 1: different states, everyone deciding to lift their mask mandates and
Speaker 1: like pretend as if COVID is done. I for one,
Speaker 1: am continuing to be as vigilant as I was. But
Speaker 1: what I've realized too is that I need to go
Speaker 1: back into the world. I missed the world, and we
Speaker 1: all need to understand what our own safety measures and
Speaker 1: precautions are going to be right that we cannot rely
Speaker 1: on the CDCs or on our governors to keep us safe.
Speaker 1: We know now what keeps people safe, right, But you
Speaker 1: also need to understand your own tolerance for risk. Right.
Speaker 1: And for me, this past weekend, I decided to see
Speaker 1: friends that I haven't seen in months, some of them
Speaker 1: since the beginning of the pandemic. Right, Because even though
Speaker 1: there have been different times of the world opening up,
Speaker 1: we have all kind of still managed to stay in
Speaker 1: our COVID pods in our neighborhoods. Right. We're working from home,
Speaker 1: so you're not really exposing yourself out in the way
Speaker 1: that you were. This past weekend, I decided to reconnect
Speaker 1: with friends. And can I tell you how whole it
Speaker 1: made me feel, how much joy laughter, just exchanging hugs
Speaker 1: and like catching up. I felt like I was drinking
Speaker 1: in sunshine. I did not know until you know at
Speaker 1: the end of the week, and how much I needed
Speaker 1: to be around my friends, all the different types of
Speaker 1: friends and environments that I'm fortunate enough to have. It
Speaker 1: was so recharging, so joyful, And yes, there was risk, right,
Speaker 1: There is risk in gathering with other people. You hope
Speaker 1: that you know. Folks, we had windows open and doors open,
Speaker 1: and you know, take your own mitigation methods and measures,
Speaker 1: but it was needed, it was necessary, and so as
Speaker 1: spring is, you know, slowly making its way to us
Speaker 1: here on the East Coast and in different parts of
Speaker 1: the country. If you are feeling depleted, if you are
Speaker 1: feeling empty, because you need community, you need to re engage,
Speaker 1: do so. Do so. It filled my soul in such
Speaker 1: wonderful ways, so much so that friends after we were
Speaker 1: together were texting and saying, I love you, thank you,
Speaker 1: this was great. Let's do it again soon. I missed you.
Speaker 1: I missed you so much. It's needed. We need the
Speaker 1: human connection, we need the community, particularly now right. I
Speaker 1: wrote a piece at the end of last week. It's
Speaker 1: more of like a creative writing piece on putting myself,
Speaker 1: putting all of us in the shoes of those that
Speaker 1: are fleeing war, that went to bed like we did,
Speaker 1: right in their apartments, in their homes, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: about what they're doing the next day, you know, going
Speaker 1: into work, planning out dinner, all of these things, and
Speaker 1: then boom, literally air raids, explosions. For thirty years, they've
Speaker 1: never seen what is happening. Thirty forty years, they haven't
Speaker 1: seen this type of fighting in Europe since World War Two?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Like so we create
Speaker 1: these ideas about what these other countries look like and are.
Speaker 1: But if you were looking at the images past the destruction,
Speaker 1: you were looking at fucking coffee shops and restaurants and
Speaker 1: metros and museums and concert halls, all of the same
Speaker 1: shit that we have here. So if what is happening
Speaker 1: there can happen, it can happen here. What does your
Speaker 1: preparation look like. I'm still trying to wrap my mind
Speaker 1: around it, but it's important. And people say, well, who
Speaker 1: do you think is going to invade us? Motherfucker? I
Speaker 1: just talked about invasions that are being done by our
Speaker 1: own citizens. I'm not talking about outside threats. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about our internal domestic threats that no one's paying attention to.
Speaker 1: So for this woke moment of wellness, reconnect, re engage
Speaker 1: with community, with your friends, with your family. We need
Speaker 1: it now more than ever, We need each other now
Speaker 1: more than ever. That is it for me. Friends, be
Speaker 1: well and stay woke. That is it for me today. Here,
Speaker 1: folks on woke a f as always, Power to the
Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and
Speaker 1: stay woke as fuck.