1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: This is the BlueBag DAYBAQ podcast. Good morning, It's Thursday, 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: the fifteenth of January. I'm Caroline Hepkat in London. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 3: And I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today. A White 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: House meeting fails to repair Denmark's rift with the US 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: over Greenland. As NATO countries begin to deploy troops to 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: the Arctic island. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: President Charm signals that he'll hold off on attacking Iran 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: for now. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: Plus heading East China's president, she welcomes a stream of 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: global leaders shaken by Trump's new world order. 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: Denmark's top diplomat says a fundamental disagreement remains over Greenland 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: following a meeting with the US Vice President and Secretary 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: of State. The talks, which included Greenland's foreign minister, followed 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: social media posts by President Trump repeating his demand for 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: the US to take control of the island for national 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: security reasons, while announcing an agreement to form a high 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: level working group. Danish Foreign Minister Lars Luca Rasmussen said 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: disregarding Greenland's right to self determination is totally unacceptable. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: Greenland for the time being and for super future will 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: remain within the Kingdom of Denmark. And therefore this is 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: a common position that we want to work with our American, 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 4: French and allies. But it must be a respectful corporation 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: and it must respect the red lines. 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: Lars Luker Rasmussen was speaking as European countries seek to 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 3: respond to US threats over the territory. Germany says an 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: exploration mission of thirteen soldiers will arrive in Greenland shortly. France, meanwhile, 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: says it will participate in joint drills on the territory 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: this week. In addition, Sweden says it's sending several officers, 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: Norway two people, and the UK one officer. 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump has indicated that he might hold 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: pulled off on attacking Iran after being reassured by sources 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: that the government in Tehran will stop killing protesters. The 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: comments come as the Oslo based Iran Human Rights Group 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: said that sources in the country's health ministry report at 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: least three four hundred people have been killed and thousands 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: injured in the protests. Here's what President Trump had to 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: say the. 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: Killing in Iran is stopping, stopped and stopping, and there's 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: no plan for executions or an execution or executions, so 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 5: I've been told they are good authority. 43 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: President charmp speaking asked if military action is now off 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: the table, the US president said that he would watch 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: it and see what the processes. Oil prices have slumped 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: in response to the comments, which MARKUS shift in tone, 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: a day after Trump had urged Iranians to continue their 48 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: protests against the country's leadership. 49 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: I mean, while the US president says the main obstacle 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: to peace in Ukraine is its own leader, Vladimir Zelenski. 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's comments to Reuters are likely to alarm European allies, 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: worried that Ukraine will suffer from any rush to a 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: peace deal on bad terms. In a social media post, 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: Ukraine's president Zelenski said his side is working hard on 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: peace plans. On our end, we are being as productive 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: as possible. We also expect energy from the American side 57 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: in their work. I personally am very much expecting this. 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: Zelenski also declared a state of emergency in the country's 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: energy sector, which has come under intense Russian bombardment. Temperatures 60 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: in Kieva expected to hit minus seventeen degrees celsius as 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: much of the city faces disruptions to heating and power. 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: In the same interview with wit As, President Trump says 63 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: that he does not plan to fire FED, change your 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: own Pale, the USC just said that his administration was 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: in holding pattern with the Central Banker. He added that 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: he would be selecting Powell's replacement within weeks and attacked 67 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:06,279 Speaker 2: Republicans who had raised concerns about the Fed's independence as disloyal. 68 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: In the UK, estate agents are growing more optimistic about 69 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: the housing market, easing borrowing caster driving up the Royal 70 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: Institution of Chartered Surveyor's gauge of expected sales Boomberg, Chanmes 71 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: Walcock has more. 72 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 6: London is facing a real estate slump. Prices fell one 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 6: point three percent last year as the capital bore the 74 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 6: brunt of tax uncertainty caused by the UK government's budget, 75 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 6: but real estate agents see light at the end of 76 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 6: the tunnel, pointing to falling interest rates and a hope 77 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 6: labor tax rises have peaked. A RIX index of confidence 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 6: jumped from minus four to twenty two in December as 79 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 6: the property market hopes buying a house is one of 80 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 6: your New Year's resolutions in London. James Walcock Bloomberg Radio. 81 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: Elon Musk's EXAI has blocked its chat bot Grock from 82 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: creating sexualized images of real people. The move comes after 83 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: widespread global criticism that the firm had allowed women and 84 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 2: children to be victimized by the AI tool. Speaking before 85 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: the news, UK Prime Minister Kids Starmer welcomed changes from 86 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: the platform. 87 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 7: I have been informed this morning that x is acting 88 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 7: to ensure full compliance with UK law. If so, that 89 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 7: is welcome, but we're not going to back down. They 90 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 7: must act. We will take the necessary measures. We will 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 7: strengthen existing laws and prepare for legislation if it needs 92 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 7: to go further, and Ofcom will continue it's independent investigation. 93 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: Kis Starmer. 94 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: They're speaking in Parliament before a statement from XAI posted 95 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: on x yesterday, which said that technological measures now prevent 96 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: Grock from editing images of real people in revealing clothing, 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: but paid subscribers can still create pictures that adhere to 98 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: X's terms of service. Governments and regulators around the world 99 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: have condemned the feature and opened investigations into XAI and groc. 100 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: Mask has so so far defended the technology instead blaming 101 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: users for abusing it. 102 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: A crew of four astronauts is depart of the International 103 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: Space Station on Wednesday, in NASA's first ever medical evacuation. 104 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: NASA sent four astronauts back to Earth, the first time 105 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: they've taken part in this One crewmate, was in need 106 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: of medical attention, left the International Space Station alongside three 107 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: others on Wednesday. The group is due to land in 108 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: the Pacific Ocean early this morning. NASA declined to offer 109 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: details on the astronauts condition, citing medical privacy, but confirmed 110 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: in a social media statement that it was not an 111 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: emergency situation and the decision was taken to allow proper 112 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: medical evaluations on the ground. One American and two Russian 113 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: astronauts remain aboard the orbiting lab, taking part in the mission, 114 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: which began just over a months ago with a Sawyer's 115 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: rocket lift off from Kazakhstan. 116 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: Those are top stories for you today. Looking at the 117 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: markets right now, oil falling for the first time in 118 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: six days. Breakthrough futures are well over three percent this morning. 119 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: Silver is tumbling, Gold, platinum and pallagium also declining. Two 120 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: earnings to think about Rischmot in terms of third quarter 121 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: sales up by eleven percent. TSMC is a beat on 122 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: net income and gross margins. The dollar this morning is 123 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: currently flat on the Blue Big Dollar Spot Index. Ten 124 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: year treasury yields this morning also little change, trading at 125 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: four fourteen this as European stock futures are up to 126 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: ten to US stock futures range bound but actually slightly negative. 127 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: Those are the markets in a moment. More on that 128 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: meeting in the US over Greenland, plus why world leaders 129 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: are lining up to mend fences with China amid the 130 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: turmoil and international relations. But another story that we've been 131 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: reading this morning about people's changing relationship with alcohol. Our 132 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: food editor k Crater has been looking into this the numbers, 133 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: things like Diagio projecting a drop and first quarter sales 134 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: and surveys showing fewer adults drinking, but also talking to 135 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: restauranteurs about what they're seeing, and they're actually picking out 136 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: different kinds of trends. Some people are choosing to get 137 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: takeaway bottles of wine rather than sitting in a wine 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: bar and having a drink. Others are actually seeing people 139 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: drink more like the stake chain Hawks more in London Waitrose. 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: So we'll take from this what you will sales off 141 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: It's canned rose and sparkling wine jump last year too. 142 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: So what does this mean for people's trend of alcohol? 143 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Are we drinking less? Are we drinking differently? Are we 144 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: choosing two different things? Kate looks through all the sort 145 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: of various definitions of this too, and comes up with 146 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: the term that I haven't heard before, but I think 147 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: I will be using now zebra striping. This is where 148 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: you're alternating an alcoholic drink and an alcoholic drink on 149 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: a night out as well, just one of the new 150 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: habits people are picking up. 151 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really I like this story. I think it's 152 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: I think it's great. Obviously we've been drinking for millennia 153 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: as human beings, but I think that it's nice that 154 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: maybe there's less social pressure to drink and that people 155 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: can decide what they want to do. But yeah, I 156 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: thought it was fascinating that the bosses over Hawksmore was saying, 157 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: you know, with such global uncertainty, maybe difficult times, that 158 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: people are sometimes drinking more. But yeah, it depends how 159 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: there's a huge kind of cost factor, isn't there too? 160 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look at whether it's cost whether it's 161 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: people being more health conscious, whether it's just January or 162 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: whether it's the state of the world. I think there's 163 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: a lot of factors that you can point to about 164 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: what's driving you to drink or not drink, as the 165 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 3: case may be. It's a great read. You'll find it 166 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: out Bloomberg dot com and we'll put a link to 167 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: it in our podcast show notes. Well, let's bring you 168 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: more on that meeting in Washington now of a greenland 169 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: Denmark's foreign minister. It says a fundamental disagreement over the 170 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: island's future remains ar Chief or of correspondent Oliver Crook 171 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: is with US now for more. Oliver, was any progress 172 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: then made at this meeting? 173 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's, you know, you sort of summarize 174 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: the headline. That's a story that everybody's running with. That 175 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: line from the Danish foreign minister after those meetings with 176 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: jd Vance and Marco Rubio in Washington, d C. Yesterday 177 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: saying that there's still fundamental disagreements that remain. Gave a 178 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: little press conference after that, saying that basically nothing is 179 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: really solved at this point. The discussions were frank and constructive, 180 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: but says that really their position has been since the 181 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: very beginning that it is possible to secure Greenland through 182 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: the framework that exists currently, the nineteen fifty one agreement 183 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: that basically governs the relationship of the United States's presence 184 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: in Greenland, that was signed just two years after NATO 185 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: in order to beef up Arctic security, and that they 186 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: have also announced now a high level working group to 187 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: quote this is what he said, explore if they can 188 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: find a common way forward in the issue of Greenland, 189 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: and that work will start to try to find a 190 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: path that accommodates both the concerns of the United States 191 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: and obviously the number of red lines that have been 192 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: set out by Denmark. 193 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you were to take anything from 194 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: the body language of that sort of hasty press conference, 195 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 2: as you say, they looked grim. I'm quite glum. What 196 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: do we know about the plans to beef up the 197 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: military presence in Greenlands? Is that going to satisfy Donald Trump? 198 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a handful of military individuals being sent. 199 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. So there are a couple of things here. We 200 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: should say that last year Denmark announced that they would 201 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: add several billions dollars more in terms of consecrating that 202 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: to the security of Denmark. We know that the Danes 203 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: are going to be sending more troops, more aircraft, more 204 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: naval vessels as well. But we also got a signal 205 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: of solidarity from a number of European countries overnight over 206 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: the last basically twenty four hours, where we have Germany, Sweden, Norway, 207 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: the UK. They're all sending what are currently very very 208 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: very small military delegations to Greenland. But today we expect 209 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: the Germans to send thirteen soldiers in what they're calling 210 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: an exploratory mission to Greenland. The Defense Ministry of Germany 211 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: saying that they're going to explore the framework of conditions 212 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: for possible military contributions to support Denmark and ensuring security 213 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: in the region, for example on maritime surveillance capacities. Yesterday 214 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: we heard from the Prime Minister of Sweden out on 215 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: x saying that basically they will prepare for the upcoming 216 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: elements of the framework of the Danish exercise on Operation 217 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: Arctic Endurance, and that what is interesting, he said, it 218 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: is Denmark's request that Sweden send personnel of the armed forces, 219 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: so this is something that Denmark has asked for. Norway 220 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: will send a couple. France will open a consulate in 221 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: Greenland on February the sixth, and the Foreign minister says 222 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: that that's a political signal, so listen at the moment, 223 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: it's really sort of a symbolic move to bring more 224 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: of the troops their solidarity within Europe. 225 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: We should say that it's. 226 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: Not really going to be a military deterrent for the 227 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: United States, but it may be an effective diplomatic deterrent. 228 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Oliver Krook archieforit, correspondence, Thank you very much. Stay 229 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: with us. More from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up after this. 230 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: Now, Donald trumps aggressive foreign policy moves have been upending 231 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: global relations. China's president is welcoming a procession of leaders 232 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: who are looking to build relations with the world's second 233 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: largest economy. Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carne is there now, 234 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: and the UK's Kiss Darmer and Germany's Friedrich Mertz are 235 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: visiting in the coming weeks. Our Greater China executive editor 236 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: John lu joins us now far more. John, good to 237 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: speak to you. How significant is this increase in diplomatic 238 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: activity around China and all of these visits. What is 239 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: driving this steady stream of leaders to Beijing's door. 240 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 8: So I would describe the current increases very substantial. I mean, 241 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 8: in addition to those leaders that you mentioned, we also 242 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 8: had Emmanuel Macron from France at the end of last year. 243 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 8: We had the Prime Minister of Ireland earlier this year, 244 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 8: the president of South Korea also earlier in January, and 245 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 8: then of course looking into April, we are expecting President 246 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 8: Trump to make a visit, and so a lot of 247 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 8: diplomatic activity very unusual. What's driving it, I would say 248 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 8: there are three things. All of these countries are looking 249 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 8: for ways to fortify their economies, to bolster growth. China 250 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 8: is the world's second biggest economy. There's a lot of 251 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 8: trade to be done. And there's also this interest in 252 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 8: securing access to rare earth. China obviously has this huge 253 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 8: dominance when it comes to supplies of critical minerals, and 254 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 8: all of these economies want access to those minerals. And 255 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 8: I think the second thing is you saw President Trump 256 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 8: and President She meeting in South Korea at the end 257 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 8: of last year and reaching this sort of detent, and 258 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 8: I think there is this concern that as She and 259 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 8: Trump meet each other more often, they might meet each 260 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 8: other four times in twenty twenty six. I think there 261 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 8: is this concern amongst the Middle Powers Germany, France, the 262 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 8: UK that they might be left out of that party, 263 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 8: and so there is an interest in trying to get involved. 264 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 8: And now many of these leaders, mister Starmer and mister Carney, 265 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 8: these are all new leaders, and so this change in 266 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 8: leadership offers an opportunity for these countries to try and 267 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 8: reset their relationship with China. 268 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: Are there risks too though? How are these foreign leaders 269 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: handling the more sensitive issues for China like Taiwan. 270 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 8: I think the strategy is to try not to talk 271 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 8: about it. I mean, if you listen to the leaders 272 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 8: when they visit, they are going to great odds to 273 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 8: make the emphasis be on economics, on business, on trade, 274 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 8: and they are avoiding Taiwan specifically. We've seen this spat 275 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 8: between China and Japan because the Prime Minister of Japan 276 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 8: may be sort of off the cuff remarks that seem 277 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 8: to open up the door for Japan's military to get 278 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 8: involved if there were ever a conflict over Taiwan. And 279 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 8: now China's cutting off rare earths, it's cutting off tourists 280 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 8: to Japan, and so that has gotten really intense and 281 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 8: I think is acted as example number one of why 282 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 8: these other leaders will not want to talk about Taiwan. 283 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and briefly, how does Beijing view these new overtures then? 284 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: Is it all about the economic benefits? 285 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 8: I think the economics are very important. China's own economy 286 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 8: is in a fairly weak state at the moment. They've 287 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 8: got a real estate crisis. Consumption as low exports has 288 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 8: been the one highlight of the economy, and that has 289 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 8: created a lot of trade tensions with European countries specifically, 290 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 8: and so there is an interest with China and trying 291 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 8: to maintain their access to these markets. But also all 292 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 8: of these leaders coming to Beijing, this sort of gives 293 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 8: she an opportunity to really grow Chinese influence around the world. 294 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 8: And so I think these this is how they see, 295 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 8: This is how Beijing season as an opportunity both economically 296 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 8: and diplomatically. 297 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 298 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 299 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, 300 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 301 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 302 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 303 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 304 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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