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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Drive to the Draft podcast, We've

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Speaker 1: got cornerbacks, Jason, Man, it's so hard to evaluate these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got the click and clothes, they got

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Speaker 2: the good foot speed, and then they can break on

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Speaker 3: Mentality we love.

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Speaker 1: A good mentality is really important for that group. And

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Speaker 1: then we got a three round mock draft. We do

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Speaker 1: two of them with staff writer Zach Selby, who runs

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Speaker 1: the website, and we go offense defense and guess.

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Speaker 2: What, Logan, what you guys are wrong on a wide

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Speaker 2: receiver and I am right find out.

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Speaker 3: Who it is.

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Speaker 4: It all starts right now, and.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Drive to the Draft podcast. Logan.

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Speaker 2: Today, we're filming in the Big Bear AI command Center

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Speaker 2: studio we.

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Speaker 1: Are which is very nice, got some carpeting here, and

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Speaker 1: we're just it's just related, well really really upgrading.

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Speaker 3: Really you just said we're living like kings. We're just lord.

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Speaker 2: Yes, But today we're doing probably one of the harder things,

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Speaker 2: which is DB's And before we get started, just let

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Speaker 2: you know I'm just a guy, and I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to be more than just a guy, Jason than in

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Speaker 2: this episode, because DB's are really hard. But your logan

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Speaker 2: paulse and you're a ten year NFL VET. You played

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Speaker 2: on the field, you played against DB's, you probably had

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Speaker 2: you're going to probably be the one I'm going to

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Speaker 2: lean on most when it comes to this episode on

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Speaker 2: like how to evaluate them the best you can. So

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Speaker 2: before we really get going, just want everybody to know

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Speaker 2: we're really good friends. Really good friends, I would say,

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Speaker 2: really close to the best of friends. We're at the

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Speaker 2: point now where I just roll my eyes at you

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Speaker 2: when you ask me a question, which is what real

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Speaker 2: friends can do, because colleagues, you would ask me a

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Speaker 4: Hey, you have to have a professional answer, Hey, this.

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Speaker 2: Is what we're doing on this show, and I'll be like, yes,

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Speaker 2: that's right, but professionally, like with a non friend, I

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Speaker 2: would be like, yeah, this is what we're doing. We

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Speaker 2: sent all this and yeah, but I was like, dude,

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Speaker 2: I've told you this like five times.

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Speaker 3: You just forget. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: But friends we get like it's like my wife, I

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Speaker 1: told you this five times. We're getting to be like

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Speaker 1: work spouses at this point.

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Speaker 3: Work spouses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, what a life I'm living work spouse with

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Speaker 2: logan balls.

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Speaker 3: But this is going to be a fun episode. We're

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Speaker 3: doing DB's.

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Speaker 2: But hang on because at the very end of this,

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Speaker 2: we're doing our very first mock draft for the season.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do three rounds and we're going to be

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Speaker 2: joined by Zach Selby for that. He's Commander's senior staff writer.

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Speaker 2: He's going to sit down and the three of us

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Speaker 2: are going to go through three rounds a mock draft

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Speaker 2: for the Commanders. We're gonna do it twice, once where

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Speaker 2: Just kind of see how the board lands. But first,

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Speaker 2: it's all about the DB's, specifically today the cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was one of the things you got

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Speaker 2: You have to watch so much, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, anyway, here we go. So the top ten.

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Speaker 3: This is always confusing to me of how to actually

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, let's read just ten to eight

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Speaker 2: do your ten, nine and eight. We'll see where we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, love it. Let's do it, all right.

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Speaker 2: I'll start. No one cares about me, We'll wait for you.

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Speaker 2: That's called a tease in the business. So number ten

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Speaker 1: I have Keith Abney, who's in your thing there at eight,

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Speaker 2: Probably all right, k soh do we want to start

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Speaker 2: since we have kind of overlap here, We'll start with

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Speaker 2: my nine. Give me your ten, nine and eight because

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Speaker 1: So David is it Davison Igbinosen from Ohio State, John

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Speaker 4: He said that?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Jadon Candy from Oregon safety nickel kind of player, and

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Speaker 2: All right, so we're going to start with my Devin

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Speaker 2: Marshall from into state, right, Okay, can you said he

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Speaker 2: was an honorable mention.

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Speaker 1: For you, honorable mention for me. So when you cut

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Speaker 1: the film on man, I think he's a pretty good player.

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Speaker 1: Like he's instinctive, he's pretty physical at the catch point.

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Speaker 1: playing the deep ball. All of those things are very positive.

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing that I took away from

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Speaker 1: eleven two hundre pounds least, that's what he's listed on

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Speaker 1: he was very competitive as a tackler. He forces runs well,

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Speaker 1: so that means like when a blocker is coming to

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Speaker 1: he's forcing it back to the other guys. He's willing,

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Speaker 1: he's good at diagnosing screens, like all of those football

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Speaker 1: kind of IQ things are there. In terms of checking boxes,

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Speaker 1: he had a bunch of PBUs to star. I think

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Speaker 1: he had sixteen PBu something crazy like that. Like he

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Speaker 1: is a good football player. I think the thing that

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Speaker 1: maybe he'd be a better nickel player than he would

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Speaker 1: be a perimeter player. We're going to talk about a

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Speaker 4: I think he's a solid piece to your culture.

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Speaker 1: But again, the athlete got me a little bit concerned there,

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Speaker 1: because again, at the NFL level, those guys got to

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Speaker 1: be kind of top shelf athletes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is he's five to eleven, two hundred,

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Speaker 2: so he's not big big I would say, So here's

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Speaker 2: here's a little bit of stats. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: all these I want to say it, but it's worth

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Speaker 2: pointing out sixteen pass defenses this year, sixteen forcing completions

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Speaker 2: according to PFF. That's second in college football, even though

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Speaker 2: he's a smaller guy at five to eleven. I watched

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Speaker 2: Florida State, and he had no problem.

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Speaker 1: We killed Florida State. So I watched Florida State. Also

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Speaker 1: like that was by far his best game this year.

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Speaker 1: And again like there's a little bit of the quarterback

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Speaker 1: ball placement. But that's not to take away from him

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Speaker 1: and his production because he did a really good job.

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Speaker 2: There, right, And why was he successful in those Well,

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Speaker 2: he instinctively can break on the ball, excellent hands, getting

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Speaker 2: in late to break up, and he's not afraid to

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Speaker 2: be physical. Yeah, but obviously his size just stands out.

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Speaker 2: He can be overly aggressive. And I'm going to say

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Speaker 2: this as you were saying, like the athlete thing here,

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Speaker 2: I put not super explosive in the speed I have

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Speaker 2: questions about. So that's why he's at ten for me

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Speaker 2: because I love that he's kind of like the spark

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Speaker 2: plug like player. He plays with a certain type of

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Speaker 2: attitude and doesn't really care in a way like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're a bigger guy. Like against Florida State, he lined

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Speaker 2: up against Deuce Robinson who's six' to two twenty two, orright,

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Speaker 2: sorry six six twenty two and Like i'm five to eleven,

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Speaker 2: Whatever i'm going to just Be i'm going to be

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Speaker 2: a little gnat and.

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Speaker 3: Just be a problem.

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Speaker 2: THERE i don't know where he's going to land in

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Speaker 2: the draft because of the physical things you're talking about

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Speaker 2: the athleticism that he may not, have BUT i like the.

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Speaker 2: MENTALITY i like that he's proven that five eleven isn't

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Speaker 2: really a thing. There So i'm putting him at ten

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Speaker 2: because there's he showed me he can do. It now

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Speaker 2: it's at the college, level but he showed me that's

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Speaker 2: the size for him isn't a big.

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Speaker 1: Issue, YEAH i think that this is a really good

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Speaker 1: talking point for the rest of the position because he

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Speaker 1: talked about movement skills and, again LIKE i think the

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Speaker 1: play was very, Good like we talked about the tackling

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Speaker 1: the FOOTBALL iq kind of understanding. Concepts but there's a

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Speaker 1: labored ness to his movement AND i think that's the

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Speaker 1: thing that makes me, go, like what is his actual?

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Speaker 1: Ceiling like could you ever start in THE nfl because

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Speaker 1: of your? Athleticism And i've seen corners that have kind

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Speaker 1: of mixed, athleticism but they've never quite broken into that

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Speaker 1: starting you, know you know nickel perimeter group in terms

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Speaker 1: of defensive. Back so to, ME i got like, this

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Speaker 1: if if we grabbed him like in the fifth round

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Speaker 1: or even in the fourth. Round if we had a

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Speaker 1: fourth round, Pick i'd be, stoked BUT i just there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of risk there because of the athletic.

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Speaker 3: Profile all, right let's talk about my ten and your number.

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Speaker 2: Eight this is where we have the, overlap and It's

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Speaker 2: Keith abney to second From Arizona. State i'm just going

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Speaker 2: to start by saying. This he was one of my favorite. Watches,

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Speaker 2: dude so really fun.

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Speaker 1: WATCH i think the thing is, like SO i cut

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Speaker 1: on The Texas tech tape AND i was blown away

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Speaker 1: because they Got Caleb douglass. There they Got vigors the

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Speaker 1: receiver From Texas. Tech both guys are really, dynamic and

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Speaker 1: he was physical and. Press he showed good movement skills in.

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Speaker 4: Zone he was very.

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Speaker 2: Instinctive it's important to note he's also small on the

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Speaker 2: smaller five ten.

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Speaker 4: Right he measured at the.

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Speaker 1: Combine so the other measurement for you, Know Devon marshall

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Speaker 1: was that's from the school. Website the combine measurement For Keith.

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Speaker 1: Abnue he is really. Important AND i just, thought, like you,

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Speaker 1: know like one of my favorite things is WHEN i

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Speaker 1: see a receiver run a dig and at the top

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Speaker 1: of the. Dig THE dB undercuts the dig because they

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Speaker 1: feel it based on the route Stem like he did

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Speaker 1: a really nice job with.

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Speaker 5: THAT i.

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Speaker 1: LOVE i love with THE dB when they're like, competitive

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Speaker 1: like shit, talking like they're just like that dog. MENTALITY

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Speaker 1: i love that from, Him and So, logan you love

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Speaker 1: him so? Much why is he h raid on your?

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Speaker 1: List then you cut on The Arizona State arizona tape

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Speaker 1: and had a really hard time with some kind of

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Speaker 1: some stems kind of undercutting. Stuff the guys are running.

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Speaker 1: Post he's way behind his way off. Schedule AND i

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Speaker 1: think there was just like a little bit of inconsistency

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Speaker 1: to his. Game like the good was very, good and

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Speaker 1: WHEN i first started, this he was in my top.

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Speaker 1: Five but the MORE i, LIKE i, said the MORE

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Speaker 1: i watched to, him the MORE i was, like, Okay

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Speaker 1: like there are limitations to what you. Do you're a

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Speaker 1: very good, player you're very. COMPETITIVE i love kind of

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Speaker 1: how you approach. This but the, size some of the,

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Speaker 1: instincts the deep playing the deep ball down the, field

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Speaker 1: this side showed up a little. Bit SO i was,

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Speaker 1: LIKE i like, you BUT i think you're probably a

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Speaker 1: little bit farther down the.

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Speaker 2: List, YEAH i MEAN i saw the same. Thing he

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Speaker 2: can get caught on double. Moves he sometimes has, short choppy.

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Speaker 2: STEPS i think that get him in.

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Speaker 3: Trouble very.

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Speaker 2: Aggressive sometimes that's, great sometimes that's. Bad the other thing

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Speaker 2: is is he's. Grabby, NOW i know a lot of

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Speaker 2: guys are grabby at the college, level but this is

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Speaker 2: thirteen penalties.

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Speaker 3: Grabby, yeah, right that's a.

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Speaker 1: Lot and SO i, think, like again just a double

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Speaker 1: click on What jason said there for people at, Home

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Speaker 1: like they LEGISLATE pi differently in, college so DB's in

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Speaker 1: college are just generally way more. Gravy but, again like

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Speaker 1: that is something that you notice with him.

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Speaker 2: Also so here's the thing, THOUGH i love his mentality

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Speaker 2: as you were talking. ABOUT i love that aggressiveness now

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Speaker 2: what it looked like to. Me And i'm going to steal.

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Speaker 2: THIS i can't remember WHERE i heard it. From i'm

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Speaker 2: going to steal. This analogy is that he's like a

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Speaker 2: batter that is waiting for that fastball right down the.

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Speaker 2: Middle you just wait for and if he gets, it

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Speaker 2: he is swinging for the. Fence and you mentioned like

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Speaker 2: undercutting some routes and. Digson if he thinks that's a

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Speaker 2: fastball down in the, middle he's going to take the

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Speaker 2: chance to go grab that.

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Speaker 3: THING i kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: Mentality SO i will say, this like one of the

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Speaker 1: things that you'll see this reflected in my list later,

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Speaker 1: on IS i love instinctive players AND i love hyper

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Speaker 1: competitive players at this. Position Like Fred smoots talked about

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Speaker 1: this a, Ton like when we talked about DB's in the.

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Speaker 4: Past it's, like you have to have the right.

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Speaker 1: Mindset so WHEN i just see a dude who's just

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Speaker 1: like a dog, competitor because that's what you need for

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Speaker 1: it from A, dB, right just a just a junk

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Speaker 1: yard dog. Mentality and it's different than an offensive. Lineman

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Speaker 1: but like it's okay IF i get.

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Speaker 2: Burnt you Remember Nate, Robinson, Dude, yes basketball, player that's

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Speaker 2: what this. Is he's a little, undersized but, man does

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Speaker 2: he get under the skin of the? Opponent is he?

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Speaker 2: Aggressive does he? Attack like it's just what he's Like.

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Speaker 3: Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and, again like there is some Like i'm glad

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Speaker 1: you talked about the, short choppy. Steps there is some

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Speaker 1: hip titness with him which doesn't really show up on

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Speaker 1: like his tea cut for, example or like breaking on a,

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Speaker 1: route you feel like he's taking maybe one extra. Step

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Speaker 1: BUT i think he's a heck of a football.

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Speaker 3: Player he's an exciting. Player, yeah but it's.

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Speaker 1: Just there are there are some concerns, there and that's

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Speaker 1: why he's number eight for me and number ten for.

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Speaker 3: You so talk about your number, ten Davidson Igman.

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Speaker 1: Nosen So i'm going to tell you right, now LIKE

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Speaker 1: i had a different player. HERE i Had mohammed From

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Speaker 1: texas here BECAUSE i was like kind of infatuated with the.

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Speaker 1: Length he's six, foot he's got thirty two and a

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Speaker 1: he was the guy THAT i was talking. ABOUT i

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Speaker 1: watched four games of him and he had ONE PBu

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Speaker 1: four tackles and like that was it and the game

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Speaker 1: just never came to. Him BUT i was, like you

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Speaker 1: see the movement, skills you see the, fluidity you see

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Speaker 1: these great, turns like when he's kind of covering these

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Speaker 1: backside posts and things like. That here you talking about right,

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Speaker 1: now he's From. Texas i'll get you the name Right, oh.

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Speaker 3: You're not talking About. David you're talking About mohammed, Wilkeson,

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Speaker 3: Yeah i'm going to find him.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah so he Was.

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Speaker 1: Malik muhammad From, texas so he was actually in this.

436
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,080
Speaker 1: Spot and THEN i went and this is how this

437
00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,760
Speaker 1: is how DESPERATE i, Was. JASON i went back and

438
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,280
Speaker 1: watched all The Senior bowl reps again AND i saw

439
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,960
Speaker 1: him just kind of have no instincts In Manda man

440
00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,360
Speaker 1: coverage AND i was, like, Okay so THEN i had

441
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 1: to go. Through and THEN i Watched David igbinosen from

442
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,840
Speaker 1: The Senior bowl AND i was, like this dude is,

443
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,160
Speaker 1: long he's, tall he's, competitive he's physical when he, tackles,

444
00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,080
Speaker 1: LIKE i think he's A i.

445
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,760
Speaker 4: Think there is There he's ten for.

446
00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,679
Speaker 1: Me SO i don't love him because there's some stiffness

447
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 1: he grabs a little bit, Right but in terms of

448
00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,000
Speaker 1: the competitor and in terms of how he handled the

449
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,359
Speaker 1: one of the ones at The Senior, bowl LIKE i,

450
00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,200
Speaker 1: thought this is a dude That i'm just going to

451
00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,679
Speaker 1: give the tick mark. Too because there's a lot of

452
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,760
Speaker 1: guys that we're going to talk. About the couple guys

453
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,359
Speaker 1: on your on Your honorable, mention a couple guys for

454
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,800
Speaker 1: me that are onble mentions as well that really struggled

455
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,840
Speaker 1: in the one on ones at The Senior, bowl AND i, thought,

456
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 1: like that is that is an offensive. Drill and so

457
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,440
Speaker 1: For igbinosen to go in there show what he did

458
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 1: to be as productive as he was At Ohio, STATE i, Thought,

459
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 1: Okay LIKE i can live with.

460
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,160
Speaker 4: THAT i can live with the spare.

461
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 2: Time, yeah measured in at six two one ninety, three

462
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 2: so pretty good size. Air he had thirty penalties in his.

463
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 2: CAREER i don't know what to make of, these, because

464
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 2: like you, said in, college they just regulated. Differently and

465
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 2: if you're getting penalties in, College i'm kind OF i don't.

466
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 3: KNOW i just don't know that is.

467
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:12,880
Speaker 4: Impactful.

468
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well and that's the other thing, too is

469
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 1: like he, is he's very.

470
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 3: Gravvy.

471
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 1: Like SO i went back and watched these reps of

472
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 1: The Senior. Bowl these are the best dbs in college

473
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,640
Speaker 1: football from last, year some of, them, Right And i'll

474
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 1: be damned if every single one on one there wasn't

475
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 1: a penalty, flag, Right, Like it's just it's part of

476
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 1: how they play the. Position it's like why you see

477
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: those viral training camp camp clips of Like Sauce gardner

478
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 1: with oven mints, on because in THE. Nfl you can't

479
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: PLAY dB this, way so you're it's you, know you

480
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 1: talk about offensive, line how offensive lines of. Projection at

481
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: least they're still playing like the same. Sport like With

482
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,679
Speaker 1: DB's it's completely. Different so with, him he's very. Gravvy

483
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,239
Speaker 1: he's a little. Stiff BUT i like the. MENTALITY i

484
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 1: like the physicality that he plays. WITH i think he

485
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: has got some good long. SPEED i think he timed

486
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: pretty well IF i remember, correctly at the. Combine so,

487
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 1: yeah he's a tenth guy for me because because of,

488
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 1: that more because of the mindset than anything.

489
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 3: Else and he does look the, part oh he.

490
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 2: Does he's got the long, arms he's got the good,

491
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 2: build like he has that. There and he's also pretty

492
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: scrappy and will assist in the run.

493
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 4: GAME i, think, YEAH i like that about him for.

494
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 4: SURE i love that about.

495
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 3: Him so all, right let's do your number.

496
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: Nine uh that Was oh my number nine is Uh

497
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: Jadon candy From. Oregon so this guy was kind of

498
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 1: a laborer love And i'm probably way higher on him

499
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 1: than a lot of, PEOPLE i would. Say so he played,

500
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: safety he played, nickel and he played perimeter corner At,

501
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: oregon right and the organ's defense man with those secondary

502
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 1: players Like Dylan thineman is an absolute.

503
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 4: Psychopath like that guy's so.

504
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: Fun to, watch but he's kind of in that back

505
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: end mix for, Them so really fun player to. Watch

506
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: AND i thought, like here is kind of the modern

507
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: iteration of A nickel.

508
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 4: Cornerback.

509
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: Right he can play safety if you need, To you

510
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: can play in the. Box he's aggressive, Downhill he's got

511
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of this, predatory you, know running to the. Football

512
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: and the thing that really separated him to me from

513
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: like the Other nichols in this draft, class one in

514
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: particular is the guy From. Miami what's his, name Uh Keante,

515
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,479
Speaker 1: scott So. Kanty scott's like this, downhill, blitzing aggressive.

516
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 4: Like run Fit.

517
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 1: Nickel the REASON i Have candy above him IS i

518
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: Think candy's a better cover. Player they put him in

519
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: man coverage a little bit. More they put him on

520
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: number one wide, receivers AND i just love the flexibility he. Brought,

521
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: now is he a perfect? Player, No, like there's some

522
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: times WHERE i guess it was against, You. Dub he's

523
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 1: covering the. Slot he kind of breaks on this like

524
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: what he thinks is a. Seam the guy breaks out

525
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 1: he's a falling. Down it's kind of, messy BUT i

526
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: think overall the positive coverage, grade the flexibility brings the,

527
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: defense and then just the general mentality were. Something we're

528
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: some things THAT i liked about, him and to, me

529
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: it's you talked about the movement, skills the, flexibility the,

530
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: fluidity And i'm gonna go back to the mindset where

531
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: things THAT i really liked with this.

532
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 3: Player, well let's talk about number.

533
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: Seven then let's move there my number seven, Yet, scott

534
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: you just talked about From, miami who's five to, eleven

535
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: one ninety three that he weighed in. At my big

536
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: question for him is, like how fast are you? Really

537
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: he didn't run a forty, yet so we're now quite,

538
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: sure AND i THINK i can see at times like

539
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: that speed isn't quite.

540
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 3: There but, man is this guy a. Dude that's WHY

541
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 3: i love.

542
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: HIM i think he absolutely brings this aggressive hard play

543
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 2: style to the table despite his. Size he plays with great,

544
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: twitch burst and. Speed just a missile as a, blitzer

545
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: really good blitzer and for his size, again really nice

546
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: hard hits with Raps LIKE i love corners that can tackle,

547
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: Right they're not just lawn mowering, low trying to cut

548
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: at the ankles they come. Up they're aiming for your

549
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: hips to wrap and drive you into the.

550
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: Ground he does.

551
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: That NOW i have the same thing you, said struggles

552
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: and covers right THAT i gets.

553
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: Grabby he's number twelve for.

554
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 6: Me SO i like this fire a lot but.

555
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: Easy but he's an. Animal but so WHAT i would

556
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 1: say is like this is where like scheme fit becomes so.

557
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: Important so if you're going to prioritize a run fitting

558
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: kind of, nickel like think About Jeremy reeves this year

559
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: at point where he's kind of playing the buffalo nickel

560
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: for The washington, Commanders like that's what he. Brings i'm gonna.

561
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: BLITZ i can set edges on tight. Ends i'm not

562
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: afraid to mix it up with an offensive. Lineman i'm

563
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit of shit Like i'm gonna

564
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: get after. You but, like don't ask me to cover

565
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: if anything but zone. Coverage i'm a little tight in the.

566
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: HIPS i can't turn and run the same. Way i'm,

567
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: built like in a muscly linebacker type. Way and again

568
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: he's an older, prospect he's twenty. Four he's gonna be

569
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: twenty five this, year like a little bit, older but

570
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: like the, physicality like the. Mindset it's JUST i Think

571
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: nickels have to, cover especially now with how much eleven

572
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: personne they're. End so that's WHY i gave the edge

573
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: To Jadan candy.

574
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: There and you mentioned that when you were playing With Kyle,

575
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: shanahan they scheme up runs to go for a. Corner, yeah,

576
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: right we're gonna leave you the unblocked. Player you have

577
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: to go and make a. Tackle so important.

578
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: These and so and especially like now like with These nickel,

579
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: players like the like so that's like perimeter, corners, right

580
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: you got to tackle as a perimeter. Corner like these

581
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: guys are in a different cut in terms of the

582
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: demands from A nickel, Player like you're fitting like big,

583
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: boy you're fitting, guards you're doing all this. Stuff so

584
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: that's where like if you have a system like that

585
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: Where Kiante scott's got to be in the box and do,

586
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: STUFF i love. That but, again like if you ask

587
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: them to, cover Then i'm gonna, Move i'm Gonna i'm

588
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna air to the side Of candy because, again to

589
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: see a guy who Played nickel played the, post played

590
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: the perimeter and did serviceable at all areas like that

591
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: FLEXIBILIT i think is.

592
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: Valuable all, Right i'm gonna say my six and my five, because,

593
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 2: Uh Kiante, SCOTT i think that's how you.

594
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: Say Kiante scott.

595
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: From miami was my, seven and we got some overlap.

596
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: Here so my six is D'Angelo ponds From, indiana and

597
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: my five Is Avion trell From, clemson and your, seven

598
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: six and five.

599
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: Is, yeah my, seven six and five Is avianterrell From.

600
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: Clemson D'Angelo ponds is my, six And Brandon cisa is my,

601
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: five who we talked about.

602
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: Earlier, yeah so we're tied with our. Six we both

603
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 2: have D'andro, Pond so let's Do. Avionterrrell i'm higher on,

604
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: them you're a little lower on, them but probably by

605
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: splitting ears, here so let's talk about.

606
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 4: Him, yeah it really was just like a split of the.

607
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Hair like you know what's funny IS i watched The

608
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Wrong guy the first time watch the, film SO i

609
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: ran my right up AND i was, like, man this guy's,

610
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: Terrible like what's going? On and THEN i went back

611
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: and watched the like you, know rocks the right guy

612
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: AND i was, like, man this guy's pretty good football.

613
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: Player SO i, think so this is HOW i described,

614
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: this HOW i describe. Him he's like he's a little bit,

615
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: smaller but he's got really superb, footwork so like he

616
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: kind of is like this perfect slot coverage, Player like

617
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: just the feet are incredibly. TIGHT i THINK i worry

618
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: a little bit about the top end, athlete you know

619
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: WHAT i, mean in terms of like that that sounds

620
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: that's the wrong way to put. That in terms of vertical,

621
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: SPEED i don't know how fast he, is, right and

622
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: which makes. Sense he didn't run the. Combine he looked

623
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: awesome in the field, work in the drill. Work he's

624
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: got great bald. Skills he attacks the line of. Scrimmage

625
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: he's a good, blitzer like he is a perfect.

626
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 4: Nickel.

627
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: Right so he's a little bit ahead Of candy for

628
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: me BECAUSE i think he's got more natural. Athleticism but,

629
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: AGAIN i think there are some. Limitations if you, said, hey,

630
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: man we want you to play perimeter, CORNER i don't

631
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: know if he's got the horsepower to do.

632
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: That brother the Aj trureut just a little side note.

633
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: THERE i love his athleticism in his, Length his hips

634
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: are pretty smooth and but for whatever, reason his eyes

635
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: can be really bad at times and just gets out

636
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: of phase because he's not paying attention to really what

637
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: the wide receiver's.

638
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 3: DOING i don't know what he's looking.

639
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: AT i don't know if he thinks he knows what

640
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 2: the route concept is going to, be so he starts

641
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: shading to go for the ball or. Something but he'll

642
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: straight up just lose a guy for reasons that are

643
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: kind of. Inexplicable and he's a much more reactive player

644
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: than a proactive player in the sense of what he's

645
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: doing to what the wide receiver is showing. Him so

646
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: and that's WHAT i, Mean like maybe he's trying to

647
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: guess what's. Happening he just drips away Like i'm not quite,

648
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: sure but he. Can't he just has a really bad

649
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: time like understand understanding what is happening in front of

650
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: him and then being aggressive towards.

651
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: It he waits for something to.

652
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: Happen, yeah before he takes an. Action do you give

653
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 4: that some?

654
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: CONTEXT i do think, that like the nickel position in

655
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: college is especially reactive because you're a lot of the

656
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: stuff he's dealing with is LIKE rpo, Stuff so he's

657
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: in the. Runfit but he's also in, coverage so, Like

658
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: i'm sure the coaching point for some of this stuff

659
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: is like waight see, it then go you know WHAT i?

660
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: Mean AND i, think, like BUT i.

661
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Hear what you're, saying but the Way i'm describing, It

662
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: like he even does this in the run game where

663
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: he's hesitant for the. Tackle he stands and waits so

664
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: instead of Like i'm going to get.

665
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: It so, AGAIN i think he's a smaller. Dude, Right

666
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of Like Honey badger to his.

667
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: GAME i don't, know like everyone Thinks Honey badger is.

668
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: Like this great.

669
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: Tackler he never was like a great, tackler, Right he's

670
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: always kind of a, passive like not a thunderous human.

671
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: BEING i think he's the. Best he's the best when

672
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: he's kind of like got a free, run got free,

673
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: access he can cut your legs. Out like, again he's

674
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty six. Pounds he's not a big,

675
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: dude so like he's like a slight. Frame you see

676
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: him next to the OTHER. dB he's not a big.

677
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 1: Man so those are the things about him that but

678
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: it's the it's the footwork it's the. Upside it's the

679
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: coverage instincts THAT i.

680
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: Think, yeah that's what it. Is the smooth, hips great closing.

681
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: Speed Gary, athletics.

682
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: Stays low in his. Stands, yeah he's like he does

683
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: a lot of really good technical.

684
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: Things, well like if you were to, like, hey like

685
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: here's a cutup of like PERFECT dB, footwork like that's

686
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: kind of what he does For.

687
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah also excellent name for A dB. Avion all, right

688
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: let's talk about The Angelo ponds rim and we both

689
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: have him at.

690
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: Six, dude this was maybe my favorite player to watch

691
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: in the whole. Thing, Man like he is an absolute,

692
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: dog like just a junk yard. Dog like he is

693
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: in the, tackle like he is in care like you're

694
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: running down, hill you're a big. Back he's gonna throw

695
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: his little body in there and get run over and

696
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: get up and just talk like face mask to face

697
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: mass with. You like he takes on offensive. Lineman he's

698
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: instinctive in. Coverage, LIKE i love. HIM i love. Him

699
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: he's one of my FAVORITE tbs THAT i.

700
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: Watched he's five to.

701
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Nine, yeah that's why he's number six for. Me so like,

702
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: again like people like, logan what's going. On he's five, nine,

703
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: right and like they just the history of those guys

704
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: playing at a super high level in THE nfl are

705
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: not super. High but, LIKE i think he's good in,

706
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: coverage like he had a forty one inch vertical at the.

707
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: COMBINE i think that shows up in his lower half,

708
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: strength like when he has to accelerate out of a

709
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: break or, something like he's able to rally and match.

710
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: STUFF i also think he's pretty instinctive in terms of his.

711
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Vision but, yeah it's the size for me that really

712
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: a lot of pods because it's not like he's five

713
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: nine and what is? Weight he hat his weight, There,

714
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: JASON i. Do, Yeah so he's like, Small he's like

715
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: a small, person AND i just it makes me a

716
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: little bit worried because like THE nfl is such a

717
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: big man's.

718
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: GAME i, mean aggressive as all get, out stays in

719
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: phase pretty, well a tax ball. Carriers he's a, finisher

720
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: like he is a football, Player.

721
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Like if he loves playing, football if he'd be bare

722
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: of my number one. Corner AND i know that sounds,

723
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: silly but like that.

724
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: It plays in.

725
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: COLLEGE i don't know if the size will play in THE.

726
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Nfl he's a little, Concerning, yeah BUT i love.

727
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: The mentality and like he's not, uh he's not bad at. Anything,

728
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: NO i think that's the. Thing he's just really.

729
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Consistent and you, know we talked about the, mentality like

730
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: no player encapsulates the mentality better to me Than Dangelo

731
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: pons in terms of what it means to be A.

732
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: dB all, right do you want to talk About you

733
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: had him higher than, Me brandon From South, Carolina so

734
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: you can start off because you have him at, five

735
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: him down at.

736
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Eight and again this is really more of like just

737
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: a size and strength. THING i think he's. STRONG i

738
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: think he's got good. LENGTH i think he's pretty physical

739
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to like line of scrimmage. PRESS i

740
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: think he's got a great top end gear to, him,

741
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Right like he can really. Run he didn't run at the,

742
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: combine but he's, fast AND i think the thing about

743
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: him IS i think he's pretty. Good, underneath there's a

744
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: little bit of like Like i'm gonna, say reactive. Stiffness

745
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: and WHAT i mean by that is like when you

746
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: look at ponds With, gatterrell like they're so fluid to

747
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: move to the football. Right ses doesn't really have. That

748
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: and the thing that really got me a little bit.

749
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: Concerned is like WHEN i got he's, fast he can

750
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: stay in, phase he's got long, arms but when the

751
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: ball's in the, air he panics a little. Bit like

752
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: he reminds me a little bit of Like Marshawn. Lattimore

753
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: like he's really, handsy he's really, grabby and like there's

754
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: this move That Nick harber From South carolina ran where

755
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: it's like a slant and go and he does a

756
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: great job turning.

757
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: Right he's running with him and then he.

758
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: Just gets lost a little bit to the ball and

759
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: the ball ends up getting. Complete it Wasn't Nick carber

760
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: that think of actually different player they Get Fromssissippi, state

761
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: but it was the same type of. Thing like the

762
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: balls in the, air he's in a goo, position he's

763
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: just late to play the football ends up being.

764
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Complete like SO i wrote down that his body control

765
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: looks a little below. Average it's like there's something there

766
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: where it's not quite lined, up.

767
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 4: Like he started to cut.

768
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: Off he reminds me of that dude that like you

769
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: go play pickup like he can jump hy and run,

770
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: fast but you go play pick up basketball with, him

771
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: and it's a little bit like of a spas you

772
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: know WHAT i, Mean, like that's what he reminds me

773
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: of a little.

774
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: Bit, Right, no that's a great way to describe. It

775
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: and he's not super consistent Rep the REP i think

776
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: bothers me a little. Bit, yeah he just doesn't track

777
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: the ball, well slow and recognizing and then the weird

778
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: kind of almost uncoordinated like movements when the ball's. There

779
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: BUT i, mean let's talk, positively but it's.

780
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: Not BUT i think that's the interesting thing about him

781
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: is it's like he's coordinated and then the balls in

782
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: the air and then it's. Not it's like a Pan

783
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: it's like there's a panic to. Him and again, like

784
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: well i'm talking To. Fred i'm gonna Give fred his flowers.

785
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: Here but like he was, saying like one of the

786
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: number one things he looks for is like how you

787
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: track the football in the, Air and again like he's

788
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be is going to be in the right.

789
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Spot the ball tracking is a little bit, concerning which

790
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: is why he's down the list for.

791
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Me, well he gets after it in a run game, too,

792
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Right and he's an explosive. Athlete the, length the, strength

793
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: he has really nice long. Speed as you were talking

794
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: about he can keep. Up he didn't, run BUT i

795
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: suspect he'll run pretty. GOOD i JUST i he's the

796
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: frame length and the athlete is. Worth, LIKE i think

797
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: we can coach him up on this ball skill type.

798
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: Thing or maybe he's just never going to be a

799
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: big ball. Producer he's just gonna he's just gonna be

800
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: a guy that gets his hand in, there breaks it

801
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: up and is in the right.

802
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Spot and that's very that's. Valuable.

803
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Yep, NO i think that's one hundred percent, Right AND

804
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: i think it sounds like we see him very.

805
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Similarly, Okay i'm gonna do my four and. Three.

806
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: Yep i'm just gonna do, four, three two on one

807
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: because we have all these guys just different, orders all.

808
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Right so my four Is Colton hood From.

809
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: Tennessee three Is Chris johnson From San Diego, state Not

810
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: San Diego South Dakota.

811
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: State, sorry, no, no, no is it San Diego SO i

812
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: WROTE Sd? State.

813
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: Sorry number two Is Mansor delane FROM. Lsu and my number,

814
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: one which is good you're GONNA i know you're gonna

815
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: push back on Is jamald McCoy From.

816
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: Tennessee i'm not gonna push back onto that hard actually

817
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: for being number.

818
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: One, YEAH i mean we'll talk about it when we get.

819
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: There so, yeah my fourdth my, Forest Chris johnson From

820
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: San Diego. State jermond McCoy is my number, Three Colton

821
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: hood is my number, two and mansword De lane is

822
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: my number one FROM.

823
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: Lsu who gets in the most choice that you want

824
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: to talk?

825
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: About, uh let's save McCoy and De. Lane, okay Either

826
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: johnson Or? Hood which one do you want to?

827
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: Do?

828
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Okay SO i like it a. Lot, again he's my

829
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: number two. GUY i think the guy that gets me

830
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: the most juice Is Chris, johnson to be honest with. You,

831
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah like he's just silky smooth. Man like he just

832
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: is got these great. Feet watching him at The combine was.

833
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: Excellent watch him on the. Field to, translate he's not

834
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: afraid to go. Tackle there's a tackle short yard situation

835
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: versus Cal he's making two tackles for a loss on

836
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: back to back. PLAYS i think you know there in

837
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: The Senior, bowl his man and man reps were very.

838
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Good he's in, phase he's in close. Proximity he did

839
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: get moss By Josh cameron From, baylor but he was

840
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: like right in the pocket hand playing through the football

841
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: was just a great play By. CAMERON i think he's

842
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: a really good football. Player there are times WHERE i

843
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: feel like his size against bigger receivers shows, up kind

844
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: of gets bodied off the position a little.

845
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: Bit he's six ft ninety, three.

846
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah and kind of midsts measurables but not super handsy

847
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: and which is unique for the college. Game AND i

848
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: like everything about. HIM i think the reason he's looking

849
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: like why is he number? Four if you like everything about,

850
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: him he's number four because he went To Santo, state

851
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: like he, like you're like HE'S i was like looking for,

852
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: games Right so you're looking At Colton hood like they're Playing,

853
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: alabama they're Playing, georgia they're playing you, Know South. Carolina

854
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: they're playing teams OUR nfl rosters. Basically and the best

855
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: team That Chris johnson played against Was. Cal so like

856
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: no offense To, cal but they're not very good right,

857
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: now you know WHAT i? Mean and so like do

858
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: they have receivers that are going to? Scary so that's

859
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: WHERE i get a little bit worried about his projection

860
00:34:59,600 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: in THE.

861
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: NFL i, MEAN i really really really want to like,

862
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: him but the GAME i watched was cal BECAUSE i

863
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: thought maybe that was the best. Competition he looked, great

864
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: BUT i want to see, more, right but the level of,

865
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: competition even though that's kind of. Scary the thing that's.

866
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: Great great closing, speed even though he's not necessarily a,

867
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: burner hips are super, fluid nice, Footwork he has really

868
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: good ability to mirror what the ybcver is. Doing just excellent,

869
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: act stays right with, him very. Sticky all, right here's the.

870
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: Bonus attacks aggressively in the run game and as he'll wrap,

871
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: up nice textbook. Report love. THAT i think that this

872
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: guy could be like a top one to two round.

873
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Talent because somebody's going to, SAY i don't care about

874
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: the competition.

875
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: Thing i'm going to interview.

876
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: You i'm going to get if you're a competitive person

877
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: and everything you've if you're not playing against top, competition

878
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: what are you supposed to do against? Him if you're

879
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 2: dead dominate? Him and he did a really good job at, that.

880
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: AND i think so there's no doubt in my mind

881
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: he's a top fifty. Player like these these three guys

882
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: are going to the four guys were gonna talk about

883
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: all top fifty, players, right and, yeah they're good football.

884
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: Players so all, Right Colton hood.

885
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: So coldinhood is ahead Of jeron McCoy for, me just

886
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: by a hair And i'm going to picking it. Here

887
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: but like one of the things About coltonhood IS i

888
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: you can tell he's really well. Coached so he comes

889
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: to line of scrimmage every time he sets his eyes

890
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: to the DB's.

891
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: Feet he understands route stems.

892
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: At are really high, level like really high, level so

893
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: like he anticipates breaks really. Well he like you talk

894
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: about inside, releases he understands the routes you can run

895
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: off inside. Releases he undercut stuff as. WELL i just

896
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: saw a guy who was like a pro from the

897
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: mental side of the, game like just a, pro AND

898
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: i thought he was pretty good underneath. Coverage there is

899
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: some stiffness in his upper back which shows up a little,

900
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: bit but he's got nice long. Arms and to, me

901
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: it was the athlete coupled with the FOOTBALL iq and

902
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: that was something THAT i was, Like, Okay LIKE i

903
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: feel very very very confident in him and what he.

904
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: BRINGS i kind of know exactly what he. IS i

905
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: think he's physical as a tackler right for A. dB

906
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: you know, WHAT i, mean like just to make sure

907
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: it's all. Relative BUT i was, LIKE i like, that

908
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: and again Like i'm this is an interesting conversation BECAUSE

909
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: i could easily See jermal McCoy being one for some

910
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: people Because i'm valuing things a little bit. Differently i'm

911
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: valuing the anticipation kind of the, process the, professionalism AND

912
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: i think With jerom, McCoy LIKE i could easily be

913
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: my number, one but the upside there because the upside

914
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: played with.

915
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: McCoy SO i think McCoy could come in and within

916
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: his rookie year be A cb two for a, Team

917
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: like he's got that pro mentality that you're talking. About

918
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: then tell me if you saw this About. Hood, sorry, yes, yeah,

919
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: sorry McCoy's my number. One, Yeah HOOD cb two right

920
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: like within his rookie season can be A cb. Two

921
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: tell me if you saw. This hips can get a

922
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: little sticky on the sudden movements and that's, Stiff, yeah

923
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: a little, stiff little.

924
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: Sticky if you want to see a good rep of,

925
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: that like go check out The senior ball where our

926
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: guy From John carroll is running a comeback and you

927
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: Know hood keeps running on the go Like. Montgomery, yeah

928
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: like there's you see some of the. Stiffness you see this,

929
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: limitation and it's, Like, logan why aren't you concerned about?

930
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: That it's like he didn't have time to game plan these.

931
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: Receivers AND i feel like he's better when he's got

932
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: time to, prep which is a good and a bad

933
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: thing because it also shows some of his his. Limitations

934
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: but to, me the the mindset was correct for.

935
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: Me, yeah really smart recognitions of, routes, concepts what's, happening,

936
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: well attack the, ball, downhill good, mirroring really nice, speed

937
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: like he has all the all the tools to say

938
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: this is a high.

939
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Floor he's of these dbs to, me like he might

940
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: be the highest floor guy outside Of mansword De, lane you,

941
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Know AND i just THAT'S i bet on. That but,

942
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: again LIKE i Think jeral McCoy is an interesting. Conversation

943
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: if you don't have that, conversation well let's.

944
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: Do dura McCoy From. Tennessee he's six one Eight, logan

945
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: he's only twenty years. OLD i think this is. Important,

946
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: yeah he missed all of last year with AN acl

947
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: so this is all based on tape from two years.

948
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: Ago he is a you, KNOW i love these little little.

949
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: Tidbits So i'm going to give him to you real.

950
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Quick former triple jump and long jump, champion, right who

951
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: else was that for? US a triple jump Champion Santana

952
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: Moss right shows explosiveness in twenty twenty three twenty four

953
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: combined sixteen pass, defenses six. Interceptions he plays the ball really. Well,

954
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: Look i'm gonna say a couple of things. Here you

955
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: tell me if they're yes or.

956
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 5: Not.

957
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Right, well first, off the way he, looks he's like

958
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 2: the proto type build that you. Want all, right patient

959
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: and then we'll just burst, right very fluid, hips smooth,

960
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: feet great, mirroring great. Eyes he is smart enough to

961
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: bait the quarterback in the wide receiver at, times AND

962
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: i think that's that patient and that burst where he

963
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: knows what's coming and he just slow, plays that doesn't

964
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: get too, excited waits for the quarterback to make the,

965
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: mistake and then just shoots as soon as he sees

966
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: that quarterback draw back to go. There there's not MUCH

967
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: i don't like about. Him that's why he's my number.

968
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: One it's up for that. Aco but the REASON i

969
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: put him at number one is Because i'm just a.

970
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: GUY i have no stake in anything AND i can do.

971
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: That, Yeah and AGAIN i don't think THE aso would bother,

972
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: me but he. Hasn't he was invited to The Senior,

973
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: bowl he didn't do. It he was invited to The,

974
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: combine he didn't do. It so like part of me

975
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: is just a little bit, Concerned LIKE i don't know

976
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: if he's. Speckful, yeah where are we at with? It

977
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: because again it's been a, year like a calendar, year

978
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: and usually you're. Good So i'm just a little bit

979
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a red flag for. Me and,

980
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: again LIKE i don't disagree with anything you said, There

981
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: LIKE i think he's really good in press. COVERAGE i

982
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: think he knows how to run with. RECEIVERS i think

983
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: he plays the ball. Well the thing that just kind

984
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: of got me a little bit shook WAS i think

985
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: he relies on his athleticism a, lot which is, okay

986
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: which is not a bad. Thing but, again like in THE,

987
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: nfl like you, know you're going to have to develop

988
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of like the other mental

989
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: stuff WHICH i Thought Colton hood. Had and the other

990
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: thing about him too is like in zone coverages as

991
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: an underneath, PLAYER i feel like he gets a little

992
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: bit high hipped and gets a little bit sticky when

993
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: it comes to like breaking on, stuff so stuff will

994
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: get completed in front of.

995
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: Him he has to rally to.

996
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: Tackle he tackles high yeah high yeah.

997
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: Yeah and so, again LIKE i think that's where it's,

998
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: like could you do everything? Right and, again man coverage is.

999
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: EXCELLENT i think in cover three does a good job

1000
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: of like playing like between number one and number two

1001
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: kind of in the. Seam and he's made some plays, there,

1002
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: interceptions big, hits things like, that WHICH i. Love BUT

1003
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: i guess the underneath zone coverage stuff was a little

1004
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: bit concerning just from a movement.

1005
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: Standpoint maybe it made him look a little bit.

1006
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Stiff BUT i don't know if you have this, player

1007
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: if that's something you want to, be is going to

1008
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: be overly concerning because you bring him because he's, like

1009
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna play man, Coverage we're going to kind of

1010
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: have you play, Quarters we're gonna have you do some

1011
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: different stuff that would be good for.

1012
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: You so, YEAH i hate playing this game because it's, Whatever,

1013
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: AGAIN i can be, HERE i can do this because

1014
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: there's no like no one's coming back at me and

1015
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: being like you, idiot or maybe they, are but HIS aco,

1016
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: right like if he didn't.

1017
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: Have, That, YEAH i think he's a top ten, player.

1018
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: Right like he's got SOMETHING i wish he had this

1019
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: past season because the twenty twenty four tape was so.

1020
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: Good what if he had one more, year like he

1021
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: could be he could be that dude in the draft

1022
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: and we got robbed of. That he got robbed of.

1023
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: That BUT i think like he's got. It he's got

1024
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: like the star part AND i just THE acl, MAN.

1025
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: I, think and again the fact that it's taking so

1026
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: long is also a concerning. Element but, yeah a really

1027
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: good football. Player so for, me he's three because of

1028
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: the THE acl and because of the just a little

1029
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: bit of concerning about the underneath kind of short area,

1030
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: quickness which isn't it's not a bad, thing but like

1031
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: when everything else is so, good that's the one THING

1032
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: i would kind.

1033
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 3: Of GE's the one that sticks.

1034
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: Out, yeah all, right your number one overall Was mansword

1035
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: De lane FROM.

1036
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: Lsu, yeah AND i was really frustrated with him initially

1037
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: WHEN i started watching him because it's like they run

1038
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: so much cover three like where it's like you, know

1039
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: like The seattle cover, three we're just bailing out on.

1040
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: Stuff but AS i, WATCHED i would probably watch five

1041
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: games of. Him, actually the thing that came to the

1042
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: forefront is he's incredibly, instinctive like underneath his own. Coverages

1043
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: he's got really good. Eyes he like you talked about

1044
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: the baiting of the quarterback, Thing like he really can

1045
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: get a feel for route, concepts which is. Great like

1046
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: there's times where they're trying to pick him on like crossing.

1047
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Route he knows how to play across like over the,

1048
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: top and he makes ends up making good plays on the.

1049
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: Football and the other thing about him WHICH i was

1050
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: really impressed with was the ball, skills like down the,

1051
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: field like we're trying to throw a go like we

1052
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: talked about cc kind of freaking out, Right he's cool

1053
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: as a, cucumber reaches, back plays the, football plays through the.

1054
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: HANDS i just felt like he was the most, consistent

1055
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: even Including jermond. McCoy, honestly just very, consistent very. Fluid

1056
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: is the ceiling as high as? McCoy probably? Not but

1057
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: is he A is he the best of the group right?

1058
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: Now and, YES i would say.

1059
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: That, yeah long, arms, yep, right that elite athlete kind

1060
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: of thing good at keeping his eyes on THE qb

1061
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: while not losing the wide, receiver which IS i guess

1062
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: speaks to his ball ability to track and stay with the,

1063
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: ball top end, speed hammer and, raps like not afraid

1064
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: to tackle and all.

1065
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: That he's not like a thunderous, tackler but like he's,

1066
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: good he's.

1067
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: Passable, yeah he's not gonna let he's not going to

1068
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: be passive and let just like he's going to get in.

1069
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: There.

1070
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think the other THING i heard from

1071
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: The todd McShay, report which is that show Top masha,

1072
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: does is like he got to talk with him and, like,

1073
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: yeah did an interview with, him and it was just

1074
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: like the compete and the toughness that he's that he's

1075
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: got to experience in the interview and that he's heard FROM,

1076
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: Gms like, yeah he just feels like in terms of

1077
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: LIKE dB prospect, again the ball, skills the, tackling kind

1078
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: of the feel for the. Game, athletically he's super, Loose

1079
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: like he he's really fun to. Watch he does get

1080
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: a little bit long with his steps and breaks and

1081
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: stuff like, that like when it comes to like chopping

1082
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: down doing your tea steps things like, That but there's

1083
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: not a lot to pick. Here worry a little bit

1084
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: at the, ceiling like is he maxed? Out, maybe but

1085
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: that's a small he could.

1086
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: Be a top fifteen corner in the, league like he's

1087
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: got The, yeah he's got kind of the ceiling to be.

1088
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 4: That, YEAH i think.

1089
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: So and again, AGAIN i really liked the. Film the

1090
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: ball skills were the thing that really put him on

1091
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: the top for, Me like the way he plays the

1092
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: ball in the, air.

1093
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: A local kid From Art Bishops school in high school In.

1094
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: Maryland, yeah it's just. Fun and then last, year according

1095
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: to THE, pff the BEST qb pas against them or

1096
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: not the BEST qb the best corner with the LOWEST qb.

1097
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Passway does that make? Sense so, yeah thirty one point

1098
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: three let's go through.

1099
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: Them which is a.

1100
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: Stat where if the quarterback just threw the ball into

1101
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: the ground every, time that's.

1102
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 3: Better than trying to test. Him no, Kidding, yeah because

1103
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: of the, interceptions, right it's you're at least not turning

1104
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: the ball.

1105
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Over so that was last year just it was better

1106
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: to just spike the ball than the test Man sword

1107
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: De laine last.

1108
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: Season, okay so that was our top.

1109
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Ten let's jump into some honorable, Mentions, Logan i'm just

1110
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: gonna lean mine.

1111
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: Off you just go after. YOURS i like your honorable,

1112
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: MENTIONS i, know but this is about.

1113
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: You we're already going. Along we Have selby sitting. Here

1114
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: but speaking Of selby the, website make sure you check

1115
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: it out with these honorable. Mentions you're gonna put your

1116
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: open notes here with these, guys so go.

1117
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: Ahead So i'm just going to read off a couple.

1118
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Names we already talked. About Cante scott The nickel From.

1119
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Miami Julian, neil who's one of your honorable mentions From,

1120
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: arkansas big long man coverage player little, stiff which is

1121
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: a little concerning and didn't do a lot other than

1122
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: play man. Coverage so that's something THAT i find and

1123
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Worried So i'm, like how do you?

1124
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: Translate and then the other guy That i'm going to,

1125
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Say i'm gonna say two guys here Is Delaine everett From.

1126
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: Georgia he's, big he's, long he's. PHYSICAL i think the

1127
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: thing that on film he's, good, right he's good in

1128
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: his own. Coverages he's pretty good in man. Coverage he

1129
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: struggled big time at The Senior bowl with like stop start,

1130
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: stuff which made me really. Concerned, Right so that was

1131
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: something THAT i was kind of, like, oh you, know

1132
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: like what's that? About but kind of fits the. Bill

1133
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: and then one of my most intriguing players of this

1134
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: entire draft class Is Tacario davis from Dub he's six,'

1135
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: four he's two hundred and, five pounds he round a

1136
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: four to four at. The combine he had a forty

1137
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: two Inch vertical like absolute freak show of a. Human

1138
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: BEING but i can't, Quit, him jason, because like, you

1139
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: KNOW what i love About the combine, is, tall long.

1140
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Athletic FREAKS and i don't know if you're going to

1141
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: find a freakier guy Than To caario DAVIS.

1142
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: From udob speaking, of freaks we.

1143
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: Got it we Got exact selby he's here and not

1144
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: freaking the, negative term but. Just freakish of how much

1145
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: content you put Out on commanders. Dot com we need

1146
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: to make sure everybody.

1147
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 5: Jumps on it's gonna be even crazier because as we're speaking,

1148
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 5: in now the legal tampering period of free agency, is

1149
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 5: open and it has already been, some moves not, for

1150
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 5: us But ken walker reportedly ahead Of the Chiefs out

1151
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 5: pierce Staying.

1152
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: In, indye oh that's gonna be bad for a lot,

1153
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: of people mocking love To.

1154
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: The chiefs, yeah exactly which has been a very popular

1155
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 5: thing for.

1156
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 6: People recently, but, yeah no, that's.

1157
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 4: Exciting.

1158
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: Man yeah, All right so what we're gonna do is

1159
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna do our first mock draft of, The, year

1160
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: selby thank you for.

1161
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: Joining us and we're gonna do, This. Twice shelby we're.

1162
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: Going to do, three rounds which means two picks where

1163
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: the commanders we're sticking, and picking no trading up or trading.

1164
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: Down yet the first time we go, through this we're

1165
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: gonna draft an offensive player. At, seven okay we're gonna do.

1166
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: It again we're gonna draft a decent defensive player. At

1167
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: seven we do whatever we want in the other but for,

1168
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: this one we're going to try and give both perspectives for. Our, fans,

1169
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: okay cool, all right is everybody ready to?

1170
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: Do?

1171
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 5: It?

1172
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 3: All right here. We go we're entering. The, draft well

1173
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: it's really just ripped.

1174
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: By. There. Huh yeah so, offensive, player.

1175
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: Yep we're doing an. Offensive player so here's. The order how,

1176
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: it went and it's hard for you guys to kind of.

1177
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: See that, i'm.

1178
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: Sorry but mendoza went one To, The Raiders sunny styles

1179
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: went two To, The Jets jeremiah love went To The,

1180
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals rvel reese went To, The Titans david bailey

1181
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: went To, the Giants And reuben bain went To. The

1182
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: browns that actually seems maybe possibly realistic in the sense

1183
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: that these guys would be gone at. This point so

1184
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: that leaves us picking offense at. Number seven and.

1185
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: Where do you?

1186
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: First off what position would you be a player that

1187
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: you would go for here or a position that you would.

1188
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: GO for, I mean i feel like the only POSITION

1189
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: that i would want to go, for personally assuming that,

1190
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 5: you know nothing else really, happens today would be receiver

1191
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: because they need they need a thread out There besides.

1192
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: TERRY McLaurin, i mean there's Only. Besides Harry there's jail

1193
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: Only and luke McCaffrey on. The contract on a contract

1194
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 5: like that's just this is not gonna work. Right now

1195
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 5: you need, other playmakers need other other guys that can

1196
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: maybe bring, the speed other guys that can make some

1197
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 5: exposive plays. Down field so That's what i'm. Looking, at

1198
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: Receiver and i'll look and what are you?

1199
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: Looking AT so, i think obviously receiver is the first

1200
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: one that's gonna come in. To mind i'm sure some

1201
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: people are gonna throw out tight end With Like, Kenyon

1202
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: sadik is this? TOO high i look at, value HERE

1203
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: and i look at like what the free agent market

1204
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: is going, to YIELD and i look at the offensive line,

1205
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: here SPECIFICALLY like i Look At France smoi noa From,

1206
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: from MIAMI and, i, think like could he play? Left

1207
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: GUARD because, i Think like i've been reading stuff Recently

1208
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: That chris paul is about to make like twenty five

1209
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: million dollars in, free, agency right like free maybe, Right

1210
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: potentially like that's like a, speculative, Thing right so if

1211
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: we need, a, Guard Right France smoi noah And Then

1212
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: van Guyoni From penn state are NAMES that i would

1213
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: just like to float Because what i'm talking about now is.

1214
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Contract value, so like if the guard market is between

1215
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: let's say twenty and thirty million dollars in, free agency

1216
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: we will be saving as a franchise quite a bit.

1217
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Of money when we pay this guy twenty, million bucks

1218
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: we save ten.

1219
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 3: Million dollars are you thinking at this Point Protect.

1220
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: Jaden daniels are you thinking best player available with the

1221
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: notion of what the value of.

1222
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: THE position i think it's best.

1223
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Player best like so, for example, right now i Would

1224
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: Have francis Malinoa and van guyone rated Higher Than. Kenyan

1225
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: Sadik and i'm in the Conversation With carnel taate like

1226
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: the Receiver thing i'm playing devil's advocare a little, bit

1227
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: right like those guys are kind of THE bucket i

1228
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: would be looking at here because of how valuable those. Positions,

1229
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: are receivers the same type, of, thing overtight, end, over

1230
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: linebacker especially with the way the. Board fell, and again

1231
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: if we got to, go offense that's THE way i. Would,

1232
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: Go Again caleb downs, IS here i would definitely kick

1233
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: the tires.

1234
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 5: On that but so let me play devil's advocate to

1235
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 5: your devil's asage care and play a little double here

1236
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: in like you've we Already Got, brandon coleman who you

1237
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 5: drafted two, years ago and he would use a third

1238
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 5: round pick on Like With chris paul. MAYBE leaving, i

1239
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: mean do you not think that you want to give

1240
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: him a chance or are you gonna let?

1241
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 6: Him compete if that's why if you, draft.

1242
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 1: THEM so i want. TO compete i want. The, best

1243
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: like so this IS something i think people like who

1244
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: haven't maybe been in the building. Don't understand it's like you've,

1245
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: been here we, Drafted you we're invested, in, you Right

1246
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: but i'm not going to give, you, Anything right i'm

1247
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: going to make sure you have to earn. This OPPORTUNITY and,

1248
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: i think like if, this player if this, is hypothetical

1249
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: Let's SAY francis, i know is the best player on,

1250
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: my board number. One person it does fit a need

1251
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: and he's the best player on. Our board AND if

1252
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: i think he's a blue chip prospect at the, guard

1253
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: position Think About quentin nelson For, the colts, For example

1254
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: like he has been a difference maker for. That group

1255
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: and if you think, this guy one of these, two

1256
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: guards has this potential here For The, Washington COMMANDERS like

1257
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: i wouldn't even Mind Moving brandon coleman, A CENTER like

1258
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: i would give them a shot to try some of that,

1259
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: stuff out try different. Configurations OUT and i think about

1260
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: one of these, Big Nations steve malers Next To laramie

1261
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: tunzel And Then. Brandon coleman he snapped at points last

1262
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: year and practiced. Last, season like where does that? Take

1263
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: YOU when i look at that group across the BOARD and,

1264
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: i say that's got to be one of the best,

1265
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: offensive lines at least on paper. In football and what

1266
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: does that do? For you, pass, protection plaction pass running

1267
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: the football. Elevates everything, So again i'm not saying we

1268
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: need to go, that direction but THAT'S something i just

1269
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: wanted to throw. Out, THERE again i think the pick

1270
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: here Is Probably, carnel tait but in terms of value

1271
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: for the dollar for, the pick offensive line is something

1272
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: we should do it.

1273
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 5: If IT'S an ap priority, for sure right and may

1274
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 5: if you look at the way that they've been able

1275
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: to protect want To Protect jane dana's at, All costs

1276
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 5: like that's where they put a lot of their investments

1277
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 5: in over like both the draft picks and in capital

1278
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 5: and draft picks and money and all OF their Stff With.

1279
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 6: Laramie TUNSILS so i hear you it makes.

1280
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: Sense, there well let me ask you a question then

1281
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: about the depth. Of position so in, the draft so

1282
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: would you say that wide receiver a, deeper class? Very,

1283
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: deep so but when you Sit At, Carnel Tate kay

1284
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: lemon And Then, jordan tyson you would put those in

1285
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: a tier and then kind of. Everybody else so are

1286
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: you getting a top tier wide receiver who is a

1287
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: position of?

1288
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: Great value would you really?

1289
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: Consider that and then the same thing with tight end

1290
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: in the sense of maybe the money isn't, the same

1291
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: but You Have kenyan sidik and then, Everybody else but

1292
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 2: the tight end position.

1293
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: Is deep but the gap Maybe.

1294
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: The titan positions crazy deep. This year so, TO me

1295
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: i would kind of be like unless we, felt, like

1296
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: Again If kenyan sadik is the, best player if you

1297
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: think he's a blue chip player and there's no other

1298
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: blue chip players on, the board then you take them

1299
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: like that's just how you. Do IT but i don't

1300
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: KNOW if i feel that way about him right now

1301
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: right talking about, the, Receivers like i'm kind of moving towards.

1302
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: This thing we haven't updated this on our drive Of

1303
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: the draft, show Yet But i'm i'm moving towards this

1304
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: perspective based on, the interviews based on, the workout based on,

1305
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: the Film That carnel tate isn't a tier by himself

1306
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: in terms of receiver right coming to the, Dark, Side

1307
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: yeah i'm moving, over there Right Because, jordan tyson his

1308
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: injury history. Was crazy his film, is better but the

1309
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: injury history. Is crazy we've heard there might be worse

1310
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: than people. Actually think And, McKay, LEMON again, i think

1311
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: is more of a pure slot. Type player but, You

1312
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: Know david blau has a good experience With i'se brian

1313
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: how to. Use THAT but I Think karnel tate's kind

1314
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: of in that bucket by himself at. The moment so,

1315
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: to me it's if we, were, Like, hey logan YOU'RE

1316
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: the gm For The, Washington, commanders like what are we?

1317
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: DOING here I think i think we could get a

1318
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: receiver at. SEVENTY one i don't know if you get

1319
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: an offensive. Lineman here there's no running BACK here i.

1320
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: Would take there's NO quarterback i would. Take here the list,

1321
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: is very very small in terms of offensive player.

1322
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: At seven so, in reality this probably free agency is

1323
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: going to matter so much with this type of decision

1324
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: what they do at the offensive line or receiver position

1325
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: or even, Tight, end like we'll probably make this decision

1326
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: easier come, draft day but unfortunately we don't have that,

1327
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: ability here so we have to make. A Decision has

1328
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: logan talked you into Offensive line selby or are you

1329
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: STILL feeling i need that skill position to Go?

1330
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 5: Across, TERRY yeah i definitely do hear on the offensive line.

1331
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 5: For SURE and i CAN'T even, i can't you can't

1332
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 5: over you can't understate the importance Of Protecting jayden daniels

1333
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 5: and getting yourself a really good. Offensive line that, BEING

1334
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 5: said i do look at Guys Like caronel TATE and,

1335
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 5: i think oh, my god like this guy could really shine.

1336
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: If they use him right in.

1337
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 5: This offense and, you know he might not be the

1338
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 5: number one, this year but like the, reality is, you

1339
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 5: know whether it's next year or two years, from Now

1340
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 5: wherever terry's that could be. You FOREVER and i think

1341
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 5: he could potentially be, if not like a very clear,

1342
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 5: air apparent. It could he's very much in the picture,

1343
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 5: for sure with the way he's able to make explosive

1344
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: to plays, down field his ability to, cat small, create

1345
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 5: separation all. Other stuff and, FOR me I just, I

1346
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 5: think I think i have to add. Another weapon, AND.

1347
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, i THINK and i think when you look at

1348
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: the roster composition at, the moment like, you know you

1349
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: could probably survive on the offensive line with what you

1350
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: have at, the moment and obviously the difference maker in

1351
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: terms Of what Carl al tate, COULD bring i think

1352
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: would be. Really interesting so, you know like that would

1353
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: elevate the tight, end room that would elevate a lot of.

1354
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 1: Different positions, So Yeah i'm i'm totally okay.

1355
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: With, THAT yeah i mean six' three. One ninety one

1356
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: he'll be a nice.

1357
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: Compliment to, me look big like see, him in person man,

1358
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: At the combine, he'll, looks big big and he looked

1359
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: fast and like.

1360
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: Eighty five point seven percent. Contested catch rate so imagine

1361
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: two guys that just dominate taking the ball AWAY from

1362
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: The dbs in terry being, excellent at That And then

1363
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: carnel tait on, the other side like he's A TRUE

1364
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 2: ex like, i like that and then feel like free

1365
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: agency And guys like lane and McCaffrey can kind of

1366
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: fill in that slot role for.

1367
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: You OR signficitly if i think the depth, is really

1368
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: IMPORTANT and Like i, think zach said like you got to,

1369
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: think long term and again the play on the offensive

1370
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: line would be long. Term AS well but i do

1371
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: think this is it addresses a. More pressing Need.

1372
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: And, Like wall, also i'll say like wal like the

1373
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 5: the team interviews are obviously more important than the one

1374
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 5: would the with us of the media, Of the combine

1375
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 5: like you can tell when some players really buttoned up

1376
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 5: and whether they like they're able to handle that kind

1377
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: of situation from how they, interview pretty well at least

1378
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 5: get a little bit.

1379
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: Glimpse of it and it seemed.

1380
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 5: To be Whatever listening to carnell like he's. He's, got

1381
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 5: it yeah he seems like a very much like a

1382
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: he's in for the culture.

1383
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 6: Kind.

1384
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: OF guy yeah i also like betting on wide Receivers out.

1385
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: Of ohio state they seem to be doing pretty. Well so,

1386
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: late all right so We're Gonna go carnell tate here.

1387
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: At number seven this is gonna take us all the

1388
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: way to pick seventy one. In round, three so guys

1389
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: what do you want?

1390
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 5: To?

1391
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 4: Do here yeah we were going, offense here too or

1392
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: how does we can do?

1393
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: Whatever?

1394
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: We want yeah so this is an interesting kind of

1395
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: conundrum of the draft board is big players are going,

1396
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: to be gone so, like offensive lineman it gets really thin.

1397
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: As you, go so obviously like if we're just, talking

1398
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: Here Right, like mike washington the Running back from. Arkansas

1399
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: Is INTERESTING elijahs hurrott i think is. An absolute stud

1400
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: and so if we had Gone Offensive, Line elijas hurrott

1401
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: i'd been. Doing backflips, right but again the board thins

1402
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: out changes quite a bit. In my opinion so another

1403
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: name that looks jumps out to Me Is like Grayson

1404
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: hilton from oklahoma as a pass rushing kind of three

1405
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: technique interior guy that can. Create Some, pressure sam rousch

1406
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: the Tight, END from stanford i think is, an absolute

1407
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: baller but seems a little redundant, With You know john bates.

1408
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 4: On the roster, so to me if.

1409
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: We're going here i'm probably looking if there's any kind

1410
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: of edge rushing We Go the ed, rusher ranking station.

1411
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: That'd be, awesome so yeah.

1412
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 2: Best available They Have as Ramelo, height From Texas task Kean,

1413
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: CRAWFORD From auburn Lt, Overton From alabama anthony Lucas From

1414
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: usc Malachai, Kamara From Indiana.

1415
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: Tyreek, sap florida.

1416
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: Man it's crazy how finn.

1417
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: That Group got like i'm not saying morell it's like

1418
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: not a good football player or, anything like that but like, you,

1419
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: think about oh like there's all these guys that we've

1420
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: Watched At, the senior bowl Watched At, the shrine bowl

1421
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: Gone to the combine and, watch, it like oh one

1422
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: of them. Will be There You know gabe yakis Or

1423
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: You know Zion. Young from missouri but those guys have

1424
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: done such a good job with the tree the.

1425
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: Pre draft process you're left with.

1426
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: ALL these players i Actually Like carry On crawford from

1427
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: auburn quite a bit as a pure, pass rush guy

1428
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: and he kind of fits this stand up linebacker three

1429
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: four elements you're going. TO bring here i Really Worry

1430
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: about ramelo height quite a bit as a PURE edge

1431
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: because i think you played last year at, two twenty five.

1432
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: Which is small he's also twenty, five years old a little

1433
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: bit of, an older player so it makes you a,

1434
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: little bit, concerned but good. Good football player edge seems

1435
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: like an interesting way. To go here what about is?

1436
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: How about?

1437
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Corner, we got yeah we just, talked ABOUT corners and

1438
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: i was going to bring THAT up because i think

1439
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: there's some good players here at.

1440
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: The, corner position yeah.

1441
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: We didn't Talk about chandeler rivers. ON our breakdown i

1442
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: think he's an excellent, like nickel player very much in

1443
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: the Mold Of like mikey sandrastill and so like DO

1444
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: you want i think that's something that makes this process

1445
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: Really hard to, zach is like what do you what

1446
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: does the new? Defense look like what do they? Want

1447
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: to value and what kind of players? Do we need

1448
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: and so that becomes really apm's a. Really interesting question

1449
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: and go to safety, Here, real quick jason safety is

1450
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: a deep. Group this year maybe there's a good ball. Player,

1451
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: FLOATING around.

1452
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 6: Well i think and you mentioned you know that the

1453
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 6: what that even's going. TO look like i.

1454
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 5: Think you know one thing that we do know is

1455
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 5: that there's gonna be multiplicity. In the system so you

1456
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 5: have to find a guy who maybe can play slot.

1457
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 6: And on the outside and do all his though didn't count.

1458
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 6: OF the responsibilities a.

1459
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: Name on here he's ranked one hundred. AND thirty THREE

1460
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: i think i don't think they have. Updated the Rankings

1461
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: His Blood bud clark jason like that dude is. An

1462
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: absolute baller.

1463
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: Fifteen career interceptions now. Here's the thing he's been injured in,

1464
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two and.

1465
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: Twenty, twenty five dude he's, a.

1466
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: Stud though man like, His film's excellent like the way

1467
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: the way he, produces the football the way he tracks football,

1468
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: and the wear the way he covers and. Manda man

1469
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: situations he fits runs, Physically AND violently like i, Love This.

1470
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: Ballplayer man shelby he's a he's A.

1471
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: Football playing johnny you've ever Seen The, Movie everything Everywhere.

1472
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 6: All, at once oh that's one of. My favorite movies

1473
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 6: this is.

1474
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: How he plays he wants everything, all the time and

1475
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: he's just going. One hundred percent he, wants the, interception

1476
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: to tackle he wants everything.

1477
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 3: All the time he's just got that crazy red hot.

1478
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: Motor about him and.

1479
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 5: This is, definitely a position just like defensive back that

1480
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 5: could probably be affected by free, agency as well because

1481
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 5: there's some decent corners out there right now that could. Potentially,

1482
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 5: Be available now like to maybe switch, THE conversation up

1483
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: i do want to ask you about like the. Tight,

1484
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 5: End position yeah and there's A guy that i've been,

1485
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 5: been looking at like over the last few days or so.

1486
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 6: THAT real estates I Mean it's Max Claire.

1487
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 5: From. Ohio state yeah now he looks to me LIKE

1488
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 5: he's like i look at LIKE a modern nfl tight

1489
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 5: end terms of what he's able to like move in

1490
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 5: space and make these crazy catches, Over defensive.

1491
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 6: Backs i'm like, oh my god this is were You?

1492
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: Watching?

1493
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: With, pdue yeah yeah.

1494
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 5: Yeah like that the Twenty four towar field film was

1495
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 5: much better Than Than the. Ohio STATE film BUT i

1496
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 5: think i look AT him, and, i say okay like

1497
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 5: this is this is the pass catching TIGHT end that

1498
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 5: i think a lot of teams.

1499
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: ARE looking, FOR i mean i think there's.

1500
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: Something to that he did put on a little bit

1501
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: of a way to have the state this last year

1502
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: and didn't look.

1503
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 4: Quite, the, same sure yeah.

1504
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: Which is interesting, so TO me like i kind of

1505
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: bucket him in the same Bucket As like Jack Injuries

1506
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: Or Justin jolly Jack, Juries From texas JUSTIN Jolly. From

1507
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: nc state like there are some really good players, down

1508
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: the wall even can sroll down, A, Little Bit Jason

1509
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: like Marlin klein from michigan is going to. Be A,

1510
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: stud diland bentley he is not going to be there at.

1511
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: One thirty five i'll tell you. That Right now NATE

1512
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: broadricker FROM a and m is an absolute stud when

1513
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: it comes to. Catching the Football So like joe royer

1514
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: is another Guy Transfer, From Ohio state pat cincinnati basically

1515
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: plays like big. Slot for them watching him a little,

1516
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: Bit more recently, like to me the tight end group

1517
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: like is good. Down the board so if you, want

1518
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: somebody Here Like, again max claire if you wanted to, go, that.

1519
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Way great awesome Love, him at purdue a little Bit Lackluster.

1520
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: At ohio state but this Is one, where i'm like

1521
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: you could get someone in the fifth, in my opinion

1522
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: fifth or SIXTH round that i think would be. An

1523
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: absolute baller so as we had, Linebackers, on here jason

1524
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: let's seck a linebackers.

1525
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 3: Real Quick Dude, anthony hill junior he had a.

1526
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 4: Really good dude.

1527
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: They have not updated these so he had he had

1528
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: the second best, combine of anybody and. His film's good

1529
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: and so if you want like a rangy linebacker that

1530
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: can blitz, AND is fast. I, like that yeah that

1531
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: sounds like a good. Thing to me it just depends

1532
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: on what you think the. Value is here, AT seventy

1533
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: ONE i think.

1534
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 5: I still, THINK to me i feel if we're talking about,

1535
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 5: STRAIGHT up value i still think we got to find

1536
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 5: a way to get an.

1537
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 6: EDGE rusher here, i, MEAN think yeah.

1538
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: I don't know i DON'T know if i.

1539
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: Feel that way like that's, Why, to me like if

1540
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: you want to, take an edge you take, it at

1541
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: seven like we'll, go, defense FIRST sure but.

1542
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: I think there are good edge rushers down, the board

1543
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: too a Little bit like baby as far as, Like,

1544
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: the difference yeah, because.

1545
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: To me like The difference between romelo height and name,

1546
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: your Guy Here like Caden.

1547
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 6: Curry or llewellyn like they're.

1548
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 4: Kind of in.

1549
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: The same, BUCKET to me i get it because there's

1550
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: some limitations, to them now so it's too bad it

1551
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: was it looks like there was a, Run on edge.

1552
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: I'd probably go looking, At the sport I'd Probably.

1553
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: GO bud clark i was going TO say that i

1554
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: really want To Push for BUD clark because i think

1555
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: the mentality would fit here to just.

1556
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: The ball PRODUCTION the flexibility i think about the way

1557
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: the league's going with like these dynamic. Nickel players, underneath

1558
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: like again, he's A safety but i think you can

1559
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: play that big slot for you if.

1560
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: You need, to like.

1561
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: Again he's been really impressive. Through the process the injury History,

1562
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: is CONCERNING jason but i just think he's the right

1563
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: kind Of.

1564
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 3: Guy for, washington all.

1565
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: Right let's do that and then let's start this over

1566
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: and we'll probably get an. Edge rusher, Hopefully all right

1567
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: So We drafted carnel tait at, number seven Overall And,

1568
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 2: then bud clark THE safety from tcu. At seventy one

1569
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: so let's, do It Again.

1570
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: New mack.

1571
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: Washington three rounds, here we go. Start this draft let's, go, DEFENSE.

1572
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 5: Here dude i mean this to me seems like. Like,

1573
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 5: the pick honestly.

1574
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: Which is the? Pick?

1575
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 5: You just yeah so it was.

1576
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: The same people wait, the Last draft Those, Mendoza, Love, Styles, Bailey.

1577
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: Rvel reese rubercgain how? Annoying?

1578
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: Is that geez, no edge rushers. That's, A bummer yeah so,

1579
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: this to me let's go, we, Go, defense.

1580
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: Right yeah the top edge Rushers left Are, Mesidor from Miami,

1581
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: Keldrick from Auburn cashi As HOW from texas A. And

1582
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: m Tj. PARKER from Clemson i, mean mesodor right we've talked.

1583
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: About him before i've had him. Up pretty high the

1584
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: idea with him, is he's old but he knows. What

1585
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: he's doing he's gonna, come right in he's going to

1586
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 2: be productive right. Away for you you're gonna feel comfortable with.

1587
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: His high floor Then You, have keldric faulk who is

1588
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: a puppy nineteen years old will be twenty.

1589
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 3: AT the, draft i mean.

1590
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: A freak athlete you're betting on, him, getting better yeah

1591
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: and then potentially being.

1592
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: Dominant into right both those.

1593
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: Guys' roles are interesting because they're both more like traditional

1594
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: like six technique five technique. Type defensive, ends, TO me

1595
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: like I don't even i don know why we, Click,

1596
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: through this jason go, back to safety go to, Safeties

1597
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: real quick, LIKE to me i look at the best

1598
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: player in the draft And It's. Probably caleb downs so

1599
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: like that's And Again, LIKE dylan thieneman i think had.

1600
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: A great combine so maybe you go that direction because.

1601
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: The Athletic Upside but caleb downs. IS a monster i

1602
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: think this is THE corner from lsu still. On the

1603
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: board he would be an interesting, picture As. Well sort

1604
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: delaine so Those are that that'd BE the direction i

1605
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: WOULD go because i don't think the Value There is

1606
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: fredge like obviously in, A Perfect, World Arvel reez Ruben

1607
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: Bain or david bailey sitting there and this makes this conversation.

1608
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: Way MORE interesting BUT i think i don't know how

1609
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: You Get past, caleb, Downs, honestly, MAN like YEAH i, know.

1610
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 5: I think, like you know if we're if we're set,

1611
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 5: on you know, saying it seven not training down to

1612
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 5: get in the Second Round pick like i'm. Looking at

1613
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 5: me i'm, Looking, TO say okay i need a guy

1614
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 5: who's gonna do a lot of, stuff For Me and

1615
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 5: caleb downs does a. Lot of stuff, HE'S super, smart

1616
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 5: i mean just knows a film GRINDER from everything, i,

1617
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 5: hear about like plays really well with, line, of, scrimmage

1618
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 5: physical nasty will just me to tackle. YOUR face off,

1619
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 5: i mean this this guy. Does it, all to me he's. A,

1620
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 5: football player, yeah he, Is FOR sure and i think.

1621
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 5: THAT'S to me i think like if you're if you're watching,

1622
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 5: IT at seven i think this is this is the easy.

1623
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 6: Pick, for me yeah.

1624
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 3: That's kind of what. It, feels like again the size

1625
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: is a.

1626
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: Little bit concerning didn't run at the combine so like

1627
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: usually top shelf like if you're if, you're a safety

1628
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: you're like a, top, shelf athlete right he got top shelf.

1629
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: Size speed stuff he does. Not have that BUT the

1630
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: film i think is Good enough where i'd probably be.

1631
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 4: Okay.

1632
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: With, it yeah hey soby on our command center pod

1633
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: last week we did the stock segment and one of

1634
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: them was by the dip, and IT'S like has i

1635
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: hate gone too far? On this guy and it's like

1636
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: we've Lost Track, of caleb downs like he's falling down

1637
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: the board. By his stock he is a. Great football

1638
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: player logan likes to talk about, tears A lot and

1639
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: i would say that for him and me. ARE top

1640
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: tier i have two, people in Him. Love and downs

1641
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: so when you get here and you have so many

1642
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: needs on a team and you want, to go defense

1643
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: why not take this is the best player available mentality

1644
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: and it fits, with team need so why.

1645
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 5: NOT do that i think there's a lot of times,

1646
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 5: where you can especially this, time of year people just

1647
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 5: overthink everything because that's all you can do besides actually

1648
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 5: seeing them. On The Field of, Ricky MINICANCER right and

1649
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 5: i get some people get said about, like the trace

1650
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 5: maybe he's not liked all the size and metrics. THAT

1651
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 5: you'd want i mean the Same Thing with, ruby bain

1652
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 5: right like.

1653
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: The ARM like but I think With, RUBEN bain like

1654
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: i think people have gone too far with that, too

1655
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: with him but his but his play, style, is different

1656
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: right his floor. IS very high i think there's always

1657
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: A Risk, with caleb downs because like what IF he runs,

1658
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: i don't know like a, Four six five and what

1659
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: if he's like got, tiny little arms like the outliers

1660
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: there become larger and larger. And, More Worrisome right ruben

1661
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: bain is. As he's got he's a very high four

1662
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: player in my because of how he's just playstyle lends

1663
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: itself to that way in the nature, Of the position

1664
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: so there is. Some risk, here BUT again like i

1665
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: think the film. Is good enough He's Played played. Ohiose

1666
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: state man they're playing like, Professional football basically, Like you

1667
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: know i'm not that.

1668
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 4: Worried, ABOUT it no.

1669
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 5: I think, this i mean at the end, of the

1670
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 5: day just look at what your, eyes, TELL you, right,

1671
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 5: i mean Guy, the keleb downs. They're Dominant players ruby. Bain, dominant,

1672
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 5: player like yes the traits aren't maybe, what you want but,

1673
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 5: like on everything but like he's still a. Good football

1674
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 5: player he's still gonna Be able to you can't tell

1675
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,440
Speaker 5: me that gallic camp downs would not help this secondary

1676
01:08:58,920 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 5: in some.

1677
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 6: Way next year.

1678
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: He's better than a. GOOD football player i think He's

1679
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 3: a great And We have rvel.

1680
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: Reese On that, Ohio State team sunny Styles On that

1681
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: ohio state team, and to me, Just a guy downs

1682
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: is the best player including.

1683
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: Those two guys also just Went.

1684
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: Hire Per Adam scheffner laramie tunsseel just signed with, what let's,

1685
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: go that's.

1686
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 6: Sick let's go we LOVE.

1687
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: That ap co so we got Our protection For jade

1688
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: and daniel shirt up just a. Little bit, more all

1689
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: Right Let's draft caleb downs here and then see what

1690
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 2: we can do. At seventy one So We got caleb

1691
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: downs arguably the best player. In the draft and now

1692
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: we're sitting. At seventy one do you guys want to

1693
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: do something on offense.

1694
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 3: Or keep working?

1695
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 1: On that defense can you go just go to. Receivers,

1696
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: real quick yeah let's. Look at IT, and, then, I

1697
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 1: oh dude. Elijah surat here.

1698
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 6: I've done this a Lot.

1699
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 5: Like these madras he's he's he's there like a ninety

1700
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 5: nine times out.

1701
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 6: Of, one, hundred really yes.

1702
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 4: That's so surprising.

1703
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 6: It is interesting it must be a.

1704
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 3: Pff like wolorhythmic so.

1705
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 4: LIKE They do i we talked to sick of them

1706
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 4: about it.

1707
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: A little bit they they like, way percentages right so

1708
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: like way somewhere They go, AND he's like i haven't

1709
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:07,919
Speaker 1: updated it recently.

1710
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 4: After The Draft, so elijah surratt if.

1711
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: You, guys aren't Familiar. Went to indiana he's he measured

1712
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: in big. At the combine he was SIX to two

1713
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: i think it was two zero five, and didn't run

1714
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: but did. The field work AND the thing i, Came

1715
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: AWAY with jason i think you, did as well was

1716
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: just how strong he was in. The lower half his

1717
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: ability to get. Out of cuts he reminds me a

1718
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: lot of Like a bigger tarry in terms of like

1719
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: just the. Lower body strength he's great in, contested cat

1720
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: situations like he's. A pros pro he's super studden in,

1721
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: The SHORT area like i think his ceiling is high.

1722
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: Higher than, THIS for sure i don't, think he's, here

1723
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: but like if you're looking, for A weapon like i

1724
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: get super juiced up at seventy seventy one to have

1725
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: a player like this sitting, here for you like that seems.

1726
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: LIKE the move i guess we could check corner out and.

1727
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: Maybe CHECKED edge can i? Just, push back, yeah GO

1728
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: ahead Because i have. Malecki fields higher?

1729
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 3: WHY is that i just think he a. Better football

1730
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: Player So he's.

1731
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: JASON jason's guy i got, a guy yeah and my

1732
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: guy is this, Is My.

1733
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 4: Guy keldric Falk this is jason. Is, his agent actually.

1734
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: So he didn't run fast right and then down because

1735
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 2: of that like the, four six two but and that

1736
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: showed up wasn't going to be a burner. In that way,

1737
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: but he's big. A tax Ball Like everything, carnel tate

1738
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: does he does just. Two ticks down so, you're getting

1739
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: that You're Getting the carnel tate asque guy just, two

1740
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: ticks down which is why you would be here. At

1741
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: SEVENTY one but i think you're putting him. In an

1742
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 2: offense he's a big guy that's going to go attack

1743
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: the red zone for you can test. To catch monster

1744
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 2: very smart player with. Route running ability he's just, not

1745
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,839
Speaker 2: SUPER fast but i don't know that that necessarily matters

1746
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: for what you would.

1747
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 5: WANT from, him, i mean also fifteen, TOUCHDOWNS last.

1748
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: YEAR i understand i understand that these a. Throwing to

1749
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 3: Him Who's. THE malkai fields i.

1750
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 4: Don't know who it is right.

1751
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 3: Exactly bad QUARTERBACK.

1752
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: But also I think Again I like, Malaye, fields TOO

1753
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: jason and i do think this is ninety four is

1754
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. Low for me AGAIN on. THIS pff

1755
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: ranking i think he's going to go in the third

1756
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: round just based. On His Film, BUT elizah sharat i

1757
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: think the short area, of quickness, stuff to me jumps

1758
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: out a. Little bit more and again he didn't run,

1759
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: at the combine so he might run a, four to,

1760
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: Seven who knows but the short area of quickness to

1761
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: me IS something that i think plays BETTER at. The,

1762
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,879
Speaker 1: nfl level again if we drafted either one Of These Players,

1763
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: zach ryer branch. That'd be awesome THE other one i

1764
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: wanted to just shout out is we didn't.

1765
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 3: These edge rushers, these, are. Corners corners corners you ask

1766
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 3: me to? Pull that?

1767
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 4: UP all, right I meant Did i say i'm? In,

1768
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 4: edge rushers sorry. That's my bad it.

1769
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 3: Is your bad. Now it's delay oh we're back by.

1770
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: The, same groups.

1771
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah same basic the.

1772
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: ONE guy that i want to Shout Out is Mike,

1773
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: washington from arkansas also. The, running back okay just a

1774
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: big body downhill, kind of bruiser sort of fellow and

1775
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: like he ran a four to three at the combine

1776
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: and he's two and twenty six pounds and he's six

1777
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: to two and a half six one and a half

1778
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: and good, and pass protection long arms gotten exposed, to

1779
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: PLAYMAKING ability and i think about kind of the backfield

1780
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: that They had in detroit with kind of this, thunder lightning,

1781
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: Combination You Know bill crosskey merritt, In Year two mike

1782
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: washington getting downhill like that seems pretty.

1783
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 4: Exciting to me so and then.

1784
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: Here's our linebackers it's the same basic group that.

1785
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 4: WAS it again I Don't.

1786
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: THINK anthony Hill I think anthony hill's a, third round

1787
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 1: player so to have him in ninety two seems kind of.

1788
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: Crazy to, me but yeah maybe you feel like you

1789
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: can get a linebacker in. The fifth round. I'm not

1790
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: sure so what are you guys?

1791
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 3: Looking at you do you want to go wide receiver

1792
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 3: to help out the offense or you want to.

1793
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 6: Stay tempting to?

1794
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: Go wide, RECEIVER for ME i think i think for

1795
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: the first one, of The season first mack draft, OF

1796
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: the season i think wide receivers the move just because of,

1797
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: Who is here like if you took your scroll down.

1798
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: A Little Bit, So Elijah, Sharrott, Zach Ryer, Branch Deon,

1799
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: Burks Malachy, Fields Antonio, Williams, Deshaun Stribling Bryce bryce lance

1800
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: Sig Fan, OF Bryce, HEADHURST dj daniels i don't know who. That,

1801
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: Guy Is oh cyry's Allen, From. From, cincinnati regie like

1802
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: all those dudes are.

1803
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 5: Good football players you want maybe you go a different

1804
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 5: direction here because maybe you go running back because the

1805
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 5: receiver tail.

1806
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: Is so, long but like man like that is a good,

1807
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: group OF receivers and i feel like you'd be happy with.

1808
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 5: All, OF them yeah i don't feel like you can

1809
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 5: go wrong WITH any m i still. Feel for, Me Oh,

1810
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 5: dude markel bell, LET'S go now i.

1811
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 3: JUST pulled up.

1812
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: I love, it i mean we, don't need, HIM but

1813
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: like i think he's a STUD man, and i think uh,

1814
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: and big old.

1815
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 4: Big old hoss how? About defensive tackle? Let's do? That

1816
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 4: why not let's?

1817
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: Do Defensive tackle grayson, Hillton's Back HERE rashawn benny i.

1818
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: Like a lot chris McClellan, is an athletic freak upside.

1819
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: Type of player, maybe, You Wait Dude, caleb procket jason. That's,

1820
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: Your guy yeah, i'm A fan and i think he

1821
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: fits this. Defense, really, well dude sick what do we?

1822
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 4: Do a comment, he's crushed it crushed it, weight and

1823
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 4: heavy did the? Whole.

1824
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: THING great job i mean a receiver to me is what.

1825
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: The answer is like all, THOSE defensive tackles i think,

1826
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: they're GOOD too but i think, for the value for,

1827
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: the contract value like i'd probably.

1828
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: Go this direction so you want, TO do sarrat i

1829
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: assume the. Two, of, you.

1830
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: So like just, TO be Clear I think malachai field

1831
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: is a heck of. A football player IT'S just Like

1832
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: I think elijah surrott has a little bit more diversity.

1833
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: To his, Game, and again JASON what did i tell

1834
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: you when, We DID receivers like i love a, big

1835
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver and there's nobody bigger in this Draft Cast. Than,

1836
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: Malachai fields, RIGHT oh yeah, i Love them but i've

1837
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: been burned by big wide receivers. Too many, Times all

1838
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: right so.

1839
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: We'll do It We'll, take elijah surratt the Wide, Receiver From,

1840
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 2: indiana Caleb downs and elijah surran the. First three rounds

1841
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 2: there at, the starting point. We're getting Better not that,

1842
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: I'll copy this i'll see see It Over. To adam peters.

1843
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 6: I'm in a little bit of a.

1844
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 5: Heater right now so the heater over the, last, three years,

1845
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 5: uh you know we've Done mock draft mondays, every year

1846
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 5: right and the First guy that i've always chosen to

1847
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 5: start the kickoff The mock draft monday series has BEEN,

1848
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 5: drafted by us.

1849
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 4: Has BEEN, drafted by us. But not necessarily where we're

1850
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 4: getting This Is.

1851
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: Actually adam peters.

1852
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: Here is.

1853
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: Three FIRST first, Corner i did OUR first player i

1854
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 5: did Was the MANUAL forbes.

1855
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 4: DRAFTED manu four i don't know if, that's good.

1856
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 6: Though twenty?

1857
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 5: Four what's not this is not ABOUT whether and i

1858
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 5: end up working out right, Twenty four obviously Man Twenty, Five,

1859
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 5: josh connory.

1860
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 4: Okay that's, Good Twenty. Five josh. Connolly, that's, impressive, Yeah yeah.

1861
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 6: Yeah so Hey smooter domas selby doun as we.

1862
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: Wrap, THIS up man i love, doing mock drafts but they,

1863
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: are you know like they Get the rank we don't.

1864
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: Get the rankings better, on, this thing. Man, you know

1865
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 3: yeah it's.

1866
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: Just TOO bad but. I, Enjoyed, it yeah zach good, having,

1867
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: You on buddy oh good.

1868
01:16:58,840 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 5: To.

1869
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 3: Be here man you want to plug anythings out, Before you.

1870
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 6: Know i'll just say go to.

1871
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 5: Commanders dot com we do have the breakdowns for all

1872
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 5: like the tell you guys like top ten rankings and.

1873
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 5: All other stuff we'll have. THAT on there i have

1874
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 5: a lot more drafts and More, mock draft monday it's more.

1875
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 5: Mock draft madness as we Get, closer to april it's

1876
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 5: going to be. Basically draft everything so get.

1877
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 6: Ready for.

1878
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: IT let's go I love It. COMMANDERS dot com. I,

1879
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: live there yeah it's, a great website but.

1880
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: In the.

1881
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 4: Meantime that's it