1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Regular listeners of this program know that I ask all 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: of my guests what they think is our largest cultural problem. 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: In the last few weeks, I've talked about what I 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: think it is, and that's bystanderism, good people standing by 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: and letting bad things happen. And I've heard all the 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: arguments about why people do that, why people don't step in. 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I get it, I've addressed it. I think it's a 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: mistake anyway. I think people should step in. I think 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: it makes our society better when we do. But I 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: think the root of why we don't is that we 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: have this disconnect from each other. And the root of that, 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: I think is the lack of gratitude for what we have. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: We're heading into moral day weekend, maybe you're traveling, maybe 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: you're grilling, going to the beach. You know, any number 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: of things gets mentioned in our media. That Memorial Day 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: is a day of commemoration for the people who refuse 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: to be bystanders. It's for the people who stood up 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: for us, who died for us. And we've gotten so 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: pessimistic and so negative that if you even say that 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: I can hear the response in my head, Oh, those 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: people died in vain, that maybe those wars they fought 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: in weren't right, and who knows if that's true. Maybe 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: it is, but it's irrelevant. On this day, we respect 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: the people who didn't just stand by and whip out 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: their phones and film something bad happening to someone else 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: for someone else to deal with. On an episode with 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly a few months ago, we talked about raising 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: our kids to be the kind of people who will 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: jump into the ocean to save their friends, maybe at 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: the expense of their own lives. On Memorial Day, we 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: remember the people who do that, who jump in for 33 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: all of us, again and again. And I think that 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: if we pause and think about those people, put down 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: the hot dog and the beer, and remember why we 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: have a day off, it goes a really long way 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: toward that feeling of gratitude we all should be feeling 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: for our very safe and happy lives. We owe it 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: to those people not to be bystanders when the cost 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: is far lower than what they had. We really owe 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: it to each other. I wish you all listening a 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: safe and peaceful Memorial Day coming up next and interview 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: with Alisha Krause. Join us after the break. 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the. 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is conservative 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: commentator and speaker Alisha Krause. Hi, Alisha, Hi. 47 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: Good morning, So nice to have you on. Thanks. 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: I have been a longtime fan of yours. 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: I think you know that I love a lot of 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: things that you say and do. I think that our 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: main point of disagreement recently is I encourage people to 52 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: leave places like New York and California, encourage them to 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: stay and fight, which I listen, I fully appreciate, and 54 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: I felt like, you know, I stayed and bought in 55 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: New York as long as I could until I couldn't. 56 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: But tell me about that, like, do you feel like 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: there's a chance that these places can turn around? And 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for them. I love California, I love New York. 59 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: I just I would love to. 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: Hear from you what you think the future might hold. 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 62 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 5: I think that COVID showed us how important, how important 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: local politics are, and how a lot of politics are 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 5: local because people were looking to the governor or the 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 5: president to like do something, or the CDC and the 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 5: EPA like, all these people. 67 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: Do something right. 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 5: And we realized that school board decisions, city council decisions, 69 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 5: county chair seats, we're very commissioners, were sheriffs, even police departments. 70 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 5: How important the localization of the politics was. And when 71 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 5: I look at the voter data since twenty twenty in 72 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 5: California and a lot of local elections where Republicans are 73 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 5: not the majority registered voters anywhere throughout the state, you 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: see Republicans and moderate to right leaning Democrats winning in places, 75 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 5: and we're only losing. 76 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: By a few hundred votes. 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 5: And so I think that's why I really encourage people 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: to stay and fight, because I think that when we 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: localize those politics and not just have the talking points 80 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 5: of like what's happening nationally or what's a click baiting 81 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 5: on TikTok and Instagram, then we can really speak to 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: the hearts and minds of people and get to know 83 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 5: those people, we can make an impact and make a change. 84 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I was at my church's mom group yesterday though, 85 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 5: and there are some people talking about, like. 86 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: Do we just start a homestead and have arranged marriages 87 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: for all of. 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: Our Wow, that's a good idea, and some of us are. 89 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 6: Like maybe, but then and I get that everybody's risk 90 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 6: calculation is going to be different, everybody's calling is going 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 6: to be different, everybody's trajectory for themselves and their marriage 92 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 6: and their family is going to be different. 93 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: I just I think I didn't. 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 5: Like specifically how people that were invested here in la 95 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 5: or in New York. 96 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 4: It's like, in order to leave, they felt the need 97 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: to trash it. 98 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 5: And I'm like, if you got to leave, leave, if 99 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: I asked why, say why. But it's not the whole 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: of the place that's horrible. And the people that have 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 5: stuck behind are the people that are still coming here 102 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 5: to pursue their future and their dreams. They're not horrible either. 103 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 5: There's a lot of really good people here and we 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 5: need more of them. 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 3: Right Yeah. I mean, look, I feel like I definitely 106 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: said negative things about New York. I still feel negative 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: things about New York, but I also root for it 108 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: in I mean more than anything, Like I want New 109 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: York to turn itself around. 110 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about California. 111 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I loved, always loved visiting California. 112 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: I just but New York. 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: I have obviously so much love for and I don't 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: want to see it fail. I don't want to see it, 115 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 3: but I think that I guess I felt like giving 116 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: it tough love and saying like, you know, these are 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: the things that are wrong. You have to face reality, 118 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: and if you don't, it's going to get worse. 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: But I appreciate the people who stay and fight. 120 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that your homestead idea and arranged marriage 121 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: is very crazy. I think it's quite good. My latest 122 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: thing has been you know, I think I'm friends and 123 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: I know you. 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: Are as well. 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: Like with a lot of you know, conservatives, and we 126 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: have a lot of us have kids. The real thing 127 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: is like to have a retreat for conservative children of 128 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: conservative commentators, you know, where they could just be themselves 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: and meet o their children in the same situation. And yeah, 130 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: my mom gets recognized in the street and sometimes gets 131 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: yelled at, and you know that kind of thing. 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: Thankfully, thankfully that hasn't happened in a while. I'm not 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: big enough. I think that that occurs very often. I'm 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: known as kind of like my kid's mom at church 135 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: and at school, and in both places we have a 136 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: community of like minded people, and I think that that's 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 5: been a pleasant surprise too, because I think the assumption 138 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 5: is everyone's just like an AOC liberal here, and that's 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 5: not the case. Like even if they are registered Democrat, 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: time will tell. And there's so many hot button issues 141 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 5: right now that even the Democrats are like, well, that's 142 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: that's not us, that's not what we represent anymore. And 143 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: I think if we can find those common things that 144 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: we have in common, then that's a good thing. I 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 5: love the idea of like a retreat though, and I 146 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 5: and I get that you don't always want your kids 147 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: to have to be like the missionaries or the fighters. 148 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: And so even though my husband and I do that 149 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 5: on a daily basis, like we're not tasking our children 150 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 5: with a role and responsibility. And I also have to say, 151 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: I mean we You and I met twenty years ago 152 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: when we lived in New York City and my husband 153 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: I left New York gosh, eleven years ago now, and 154 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 5: we were like, we still we want to still love 155 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: it when we leave it, not like. 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: So many people get. 157 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: It's a very transient city, like people get burnt out 158 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 5: and then they leave and I hate it and we 159 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: didn't want that to be us. And I actually haven't 160 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 5: been back in New York and years. I'm going back 161 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 5: later this year and I'm very excited about it, And 162 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: it's just an ever changing city. 163 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: And I think it's actually harder to raise a family there. 164 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 5: Like I loved being there for the single years of 165 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 5: my life, and I feel like LA is so much easier. 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: And we have like the little croushouse compound that we 167 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: can lock the gates and run around barefoot with our 168 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 5: kids that a lot of people, like you don't get 169 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 5: that in New York, right, So the battle is different, 170 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 5: and I do think that, as we've seen, the battle 171 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 5: is everywhere. 172 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I grew up in Brooklyn, so to 173 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: me it was like the most obvious place to raise children. 174 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: But I hear what you're saying, it's you don't get 175 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: a compound. 176 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: In New York. 177 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: So did you always want to be in this field? 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 3: Was this always what you were going to do? 179 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: No? 180 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: I was always a political nerd. My mom paved the way. 181 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 5: She was a small business owner, chairwoman of the county 182 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 5: GOP ran for office two times. 183 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,479 Speaker 4: And I think I got the bug then maybe. 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: But I mean when I was little, I think I 185 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 5: wanted to be a figure skater and then a gymnast, 186 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 5: and then I realized I was three hours from any 187 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 5: facilities that offer either of them, and my parents were 188 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 5: not down to dry. So I've switched to politics real quick. 189 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: But no, I don't think. I don't think I ever. 190 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 5: I was a producer in talk radio and I enjoyed 191 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 5: kind of like working behind the scenes and politics. I 192 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 5: never envisioned being the person on the stage or being 193 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: the person interviewed. It kind of just fell into my 194 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,239 Speaker 5: lap in a weird circle of ways. 195 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: Right, do you feel like you've made it? 196 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 5: You know, because you and I have so many of 197 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 5: the similar friends that are incredibly successful, I think if 198 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 5: I am comparing myself to them, no, But if you 199 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 5: look at the American dream, I think every generation hopes 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: that their kids and grandkids do better than they did. 201 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 5: So if you were to ask my mom and dad 202 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 5: have I made it, they would say absolutely. I think 203 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 5: in my personal life, I've definitely made it. I'm thirty 204 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: eight years old, I'm married, I have four kids, we 205 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 5: own a home. I mean, in a lot of ways, 206 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 5: that's incredible making it. When I look at my peers 207 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: and the luck that I had to fall into that 208 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: when a lot of women my age, aren't in the 209 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: same kind of business, aren't able to say the same right, 210 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's an interesting question. 211 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: I should talk to my therapist about that next week. 212 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: Well, So, I mean, people answer it differently, you know. 213 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: I've had like, people who are you you would think 214 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: are at the top of their game, like career wise, 215 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 3: say like. 216 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: No, they don't feel like they've achieved everything yet. 217 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: And then other people who are maybe are not, like 218 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: maybe even just starting out in their careers. I get 219 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: a range of answers, and I love hearing what people 220 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: think that question means and whether that applies to them 221 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: or not. 222 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that you often have a lot 223 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 5: of professional leaders, maybe even spiritual leaders, business leaders that 224 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: are of which a lot of my friends are, that 225 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 5: are very self driven but also very self critical. And 226 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 5: I think that it can be like the Spider Man, 227 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 5: your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness. Absolutely, And 228 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 5: so I just try to have like a really well 229 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 5: rounded perspective of like, you know what, I've made it. 230 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: If my kids want to. 231 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 5: Hang out with me today, like exactly amazing, because how 232 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 5: many other tween girls want to hang out with their 233 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 5: mom and do things with them and are thankful for 234 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: that time and energy and effort like that is like 235 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 5: a made it moment for me. 236 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: And I think that you have to take those I. 237 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 5: Used to work with a political consultant who's an amazing 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 5: guy up in the Bay Area, and he was like, 239 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 5: you got to take the small wins, and so sometimes 240 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: my and you got to celebrate them. 241 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 4: And so sometimes my husband I look at each other. 242 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: We're like, that's a small win, like or glass of 243 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: wine and celebrate that. 244 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. And you know, your greatest strength 245 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: being your greatest weakness. 246 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: I fully agree with that. 247 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: Bethany Mendel, our mutual friend and my co author, was 248 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: on this show and we talked about how the year 249 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: that we published the book, it was the best and 250 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: worst year ever. The book was a success, but we 251 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: weren't like sleeping, and we were traveling all the. 252 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: Time and just all kinds of stuff like that. 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: So I think like some of your best times can 254 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: easily be your worst times as well. I think that's 255 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: that's pretty standard. So what kind of stuff do you 256 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: like talking about when you comment, Like, what kind of 257 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: what's your chosen direction basically in your career? 258 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I really love to if I were to 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: broadly put it, I love to speak on issues that 260 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: are really affecting young people, but specific young women, and 261 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 5: through Young America's Foundation, who tends to be the organization 262 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 5: that sponsors my campus speeches, the students request specific topics 263 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 5: and issues that are typically related to what's happening culturally 264 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,359 Speaker 5: and politically on a national scale, but also on their campuses. 265 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: And it's always fascinating to me how I could be 266 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 5: talking about the DABS decision, or free speech or Hamas 267 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: and Israel and the Q and A always circles back 268 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 5: to like personal advice to show wanting that personal touch 269 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 5: of like how do you do what you do? How 270 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 5: should I what trajectory should I take? Like which things 271 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: should I prioritize? And I really enjoy I don't think 272 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 5: I'm an expert in it, but if I can share. 273 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 4: My own personal story and my own personal. 274 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 5: Struggles that somebody else can relate to and view it 275 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 5: as a like a comforting or educational experience, like, that's 276 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: really what I enjoy speaking to is making sure that 277 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: people but specifically conservative women and conservative young women. 278 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: The majority of my audience. 279 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 5: I would say, is between the ages of eighteen and 280 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: thirty understand that they are not alone, and that there 281 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: are others out there like them, and all of the 282 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: thoughts that they have in their head and all of 283 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 5: the frustrations that they experience personally, professionally, politically, there are 284 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 5: other women in their shoes too, and that, like having 285 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: a community around you and hopefully being able to create 286 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 5: a community of like minded women, is really what I 287 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: love to talk about and what I love to do. 288 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and be right 289 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: back on the Carol Markoitz Show. 290 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: What would you say is our largest cultural problem? 291 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: I think comparison. There's a Christian speaker, Lisa Bavier. She 292 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 5: had a great post and I'm going to biffit, but 293 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 5: she talked about like, as a Christian, comparison is wrong, 294 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: Like it's a sin because either you are jealous of 295 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 5: what somebody else has, like you. 296 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: Know of what your neighbor has, which is a breaking. 297 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: Up believements one of the commandments, Yeah. 298 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 5: Exactly, a big one, and or you are self righteous. 299 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: And so I think when you look at in both 300 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: our sin and so I think when you look at 301 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: culture right now, whether it's on campus, whether it's on wall, street, 302 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: whether it's on social media, whether it's even in some 303 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 5: you know, houses of faith. 304 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: The risk, the danger of comparison is. 305 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 5: That all around it's well, we don't like the Jews 306 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: because they control everything, comparison we don't like I mean, 307 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: if you go back to you know, racist Jim Crow laws, 308 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 5: we don't like black people because white people thought they 309 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 5: were better comparison. I think all throughout human history, comparison 310 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 5: has been really at the center point of what has 311 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 5: gone wrong with society, and I think that it's something 312 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: that we need to change. 313 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's the theme of joy, right, You're never 314 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: you never feel quite right when you're comparing yourself feel fulfilled. Yeah, 315 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: it's solvable. Like what do you tell young people? How 316 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: do you get them off of that comparison game. 317 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: It's hard. 318 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: Put your phone down. 319 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: That's good. 320 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like as. 321 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 5: An adult, like as a millennial mom, I still have to, 322 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 5: you know, work on it every single day. But I 323 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 5: think that unfortunately, the victim mentality that you see comes 324 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: from comparison of the haves and the have nots, and 325 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: that it's not fair. And when that is your mindset, 326 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: then your mind is completely in the wrong spot. You 327 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: have to get your mind in the right spot to 328 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: be like, what am I going to do today to 329 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 5: help myself and help others and make it more insular 330 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: and start there. 331 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not a big about the. 332 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 5: Your truth self help kind of I don't want to 333 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: sound like that at all. I'm talking about take a beat, 334 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: put down the phone, get outside, engage with somebody else 335 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 5: that agrees with you and support to you, but also 336 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 5: engage with somebody else that might peacefully disagree with you too, 337 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 5: to get out of your own little bubble. And I 338 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: think that that helps you not compare yourself. And I 339 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 5: think that you know, I'm from the Bible Belt. 340 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: I'm from the. 341 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 5: Middle of nowhere, and I remember moving to New York 342 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 5: City and being fascinated at all of the assumptions that 343 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: these upper east Side liberals had about the flyover states. 344 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 5: And then you can go to the rest Belt and 345 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 5: you can go to you know, Southern Baptist Convention or 346 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 5: you know, the middle of nowhere, Nebraska, and it's interesting 347 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 5: the assumptions that those people have about like the East 348 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: and the left coast, like land of fruits and nuts people. 349 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 5: And so I think it really is about getting outside 350 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 5: of your individual bubble and getting to know those people 351 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 5: in those other places and stop comparing yourself to them. 352 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 4: I do think it's a winnable thing. 353 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 5: I do, but I think that we have to have 354 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 5: messengers out there that are portraying. 355 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: That, not just for you and I, but for young 356 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 4: people as well. 357 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 3: What would you be doing if you weren't doing this? 358 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 3: Not figure skating, I guess, but I may, I joke. 359 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 5: I'd be a regular Baronel Stutsman. I would have political 360 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 5: reference there. 361 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: I would have a flower shop. 362 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 5: I think it's my hobby. 363 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: I really love the La Flower Market. 364 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm not that creative of a person, 365 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: but it brings me joy to make things and arrangements 366 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 5: for other people. And I yeah, if I weren't doing 367 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 5: this and I had all the money in the world, 368 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 5: I would just have fresh flowers everywhere around the house 369 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 5: and bring them to my neighbors and friends all the time. 370 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: I could completely see you owning a flower shop, Like, 371 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: have you considered doing that? 372 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: Yes, there is a business nearby and it was like 373 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 5: floral but importing business for sale. And my husband was like, 374 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 5: maybe you should look into the numbers, right, that would 375 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: work for you? 376 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: No, this is hard. 377 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're very good at what you 378 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: do and it's hard to give up, you know, a passion. 379 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: But I could see you owning a flower shop. 380 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: I could totally see that. 381 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: Politics and poppies. 382 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: Yes, well then you then you wouldn't get any sales, 383 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: but yes, yes, otherwise we'll. 384 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 5: Have a cup of coffee, we'll chit chat about you know, 385 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 5: pop culture and what's happening with the Fed. 386 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, Taylor Swift's Dew album. But you know, 387 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: could be anything. So did you when you were coming up, 388 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: did you see yourself like in this role, like was 389 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: this the ultimate goal? 390 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: Or did you want to be a producer. That's when 391 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: I met you. You were a radio Did. 392 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 3: You think that was going to be it? Or did 393 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: you did you think that you might branch off into 394 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 3: you know, being the talent? 395 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 5: No, I never I never saw that trajectory coming. I 396 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: never saw getting the call to come audition for a 397 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 5: morning radio show. That kind of put me on the 398 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 5: path of being talent at multiple companies. I enjoyed working 399 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 5: behind the scenes. I my background for some produced the 400 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 5: Handy Radio show for seven years, and I just got 401 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: to a point where it wasn't challenging anymore, and since 402 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 5: it wasn't challenging anymore, it wasn't fun anymore, and my 403 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: husband and I decided to leave New York City and 404 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 5: go pursue other things. I've done a bucket list item 405 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: of running a congressional campaign that was like the best 406 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: and the worst year of my life, as you're talking 407 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 5: about with your book. Yeah, I never once was I like, 408 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 5: I'm gonna, you know, give speeches and be booked on 409 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 5: podcasts and TV that It never crossed my mind. And 410 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 5: Sean actually told me once, He's like, that's probably a 411 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 5: good thing because you fell into it. 412 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 6: So there were not lower expectations. 413 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: But it wasn't like this must achieve this in my head. 414 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: And maybe that's why I was given the opportunity, because 415 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 5: I wasn't this eager little intern that was just trying 416 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: to get on TV right like some people are. I think, 417 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: just go with the flow, go with what you're good at, 418 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 5: And I think, I hope it makes me a better 419 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 5: commentator because I understand the effort of all the people 420 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 5: behind the scenes and the real people that are listening. 421 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 5: I think that was the beauty of talk radio and 422 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: now podcasting, right, is really being able to tap into 423 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 5: and communicate in a more conversational way to the listener 424 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 5: and what they're going through and what they're interested in hearing. 425 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 3: What's it like leading a public life? Do you get 426 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: recognized a lot? 427 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 5: You know, interestingly, more so my voice or my name, 428 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 5: So like Elicia Krause is an old dude's name, right, 429 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: and it's obvious. So if you were wait, like, why 430 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: do I recognize that name? Because I don't think it's 431 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: that common. But no, it doesn't happen too often. I mean, 432 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 5: it has happened a couple of times where I'll be 433 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: in a mom group or amongst a friend group and 434 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 5: they'll be like, yeah, so I've known you for three 435 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 5: months in person, but I realized I've followed you on 436 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 5: Instagram for two years. 437 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 4: So funny. Yeah, and it's funny when that happens. 438 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 5: My ten year old or my almost seven year old, 439 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: you know, they've. 440 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: Come home from school and commented like, hey, what do you. 441 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 5: Do because Sammy said that, his mommy said that. And 442 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: you know, all they know is that I, like, I 443 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 5: go places to give speeches and that they sometimes come 444 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 5: with me to Santa Barbara When I do it, and 445 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 5: they think that that's the best thing ever. 446 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 447 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: So and here with your best tip for my listeners 448 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: on how they can improve their lives. 449 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 5: Put down your phone, get outside, have face to face 450 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: uninterrupted conversation with somebody that you care about, who knows 451 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 5: who you also know deeply cares about you. 452 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: It's a good one. 453 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: I feel like that's it comes up a lot, and 454 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: yet I find that very difficult to do. 455 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: But I'm going to. 456 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: Every time I hear it as the piece of advice, 457 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: I feel like, Okay, I'm going to do it today. 458 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm going today, I'm going to be on my phone less. 459 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: And it does work sometimes. So thank you for that. 460 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Alicia. It was great having you on. 461 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: Love talking to you. Leaking else look up pro work. 462 00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: She's really terrific. 463 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Markowitz Show. 464 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.