WEBVTT - TechStuff Visits CES 2013: Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from House

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<v Speaker 1>to Fox dot Com. Hey there, everyone, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. This is Jonathan Stricklab, your host extraordinaire, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lauren bulk Baum, the first and only member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Society for the Prevention of Hedgehog under Representation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a true fact. You can look it up

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet. Will do alright. So to Lauren, ask

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<v Speaker 1>me how I'm feeling. How are you feeling, Jonathan, I'm exhausted. Lauren. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm barely able to string two coherent sentences together. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that, Jonathan? That would be because I just returned,

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<v Speaker 1>as in within the last forty eight hours from c

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<v Speaker 1>e S in Las Vegas, Nevada. We live in Atlanta, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>which is nowhere near Las Vegas, Nevada, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different time zone. Yeah yeah, Trixie, Trixie. That

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<v Speaker 1>c c S being um the the convention formerly known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Consumer Electronics Show, Yep, yep. Now they're just

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<v Speaker 1>known as c e S and this is where companies

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<v Speaker 1>come to show off the product lines that they want

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<v Speaker 1>stores to carry. So, uh, I have a friend this

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a lot of name dropping or potentially

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of name dropping in this episode, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to warn everybody about that. I'm friends with Nate Lankson,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the editor of Wired dot co dot UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Former c NET employee. Nate is a great guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to meet him in person for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>at the c E s and Nate's perspective. As we

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<v Speaker 1>were walking around, he was saying to me, Jonathan, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand is that why these booths here that

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<v Speaker 1>have these ipolled cases? I mean, what, why would they

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<v Speaker 1>even bother? And he doesn't. Actually suddenly that Ben't may

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<v Speaker 1>need to be from the south of London and he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said, well, Nate, you know you have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that a lot of these these then these manufacturers

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<v Speaker 1>are actually here in the hopes of getting their products

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<v Speaker 1>carried in various catalogs and in retail stores. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose I just look at the world as if it's

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<v Speaker 1>all meant for me. And I said, actually, Nate, so

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<v Speaker 1>do I. So we shared something in common. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do understand, you know, that's the purpose for the event

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<v Speaker 1>is to get in front of the press and in

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<v Speaker 1>front of retail establishments to say, hey, here's all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's gonna come out this year. Isn't it pretty

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<v Speaker 1>and shiny? And don't you want it? And quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few people do this. There's more than three thousand exhibitors

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<v Speaker 1>as of yeah, this show, So these numbers are very

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<v Speaker 1>slightly outdated. Um uh And and they are crammed into

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<v Speaker 1>one point nine million net square feet of existed space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and uh and there are about a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand people attending and uh, it really felt pretty

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<v Speaker 1>crowded this year. There have been passed c e S

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<v Speaker 1>shows where attendance was down, especially right after the recession.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of companies ended up not being able to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't able to afford the space. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>were having bad year might not have been the best

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<v Speaker 1>time to show off. According according to wired It, it

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<v Speaker 1>costs like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars minimum for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone but the smallest vendors to set up a booth

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, fly people out there, feed them for

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Sure, I mean, and some of these booths

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<v Speaker 1>are incredibly elaborate. I mean, things like l G had

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<v Speaker 1>a very elaborate booth, Samsung Sony, Panasonic, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>big names and electronics you would imagine have a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>large presence. Now, there were a couple of exceptions. Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>famously did not have a booth this year. Normally you

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<v Speaker 1>would walk into the Central Hall at the Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>Convention Center, which has three major halls, a North Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>Central Hall, and a South Hall. The South Hall actually

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<v Speaker 1>has two floors. This is a huge amount of space. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Central Hall usually if you walked in from the

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<v Speaker 1>main entrance, you would have Intel on your right and

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft on your left. Microsoft took it easy this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They said not to come in and play, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>Hycinths was on the left. Uh and Dish Network was

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<v Speaker 1>also on the left. So Microsoft had had withdrawn from

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<v Speaker 1>the show, although that didn't stop Bomber from showing up

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<v Speaker 1>at a keynote in the yote keynote. Yeah, there were

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<v Speaker 1>some people who said it was a Bomber keynote and

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<v Speaker 1>he had his buddy from Qualcom there. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>not go so far as to say that, but some

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<v Speaker 1>other folks on Twitter we're saying such things. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it was a little bit wacky or the

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft ever quite got with a keynote. There's some there's

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<v Speaker 1>some really entertaining videos about the sort of antics that

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<v Speaker 1>went on it. You know, Big Bird showed up. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that's gangster. You got Big Bird coming out throwing down

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<v Speaker 1>sweet rhymes. I'm not I'm not positive. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>that word. One thing? Did he think? Give me the streets?

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<v Speaker 1>So he comes from a street, not not d streets? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because he lived life on the street. Okay, he's at

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<v Speaker 1>least as gangsters. Vanilla Eyes was can you grant me that? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>stry collaborate and listen. Okay, alright, so yeah, Big Bird

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<v Speaker 1>was there, Maroon five there who in the podcast in

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<v Speaker 1>the live streaming were overdubbed by um dido I believe

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<v Speaker 1>were they because they didn't have the rights I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to stream. That's kind of interesting, it was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>not aware of that from everything that I've seen. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just like everything that is insane about the internet

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<v Speaker 1>live on stage, and I'm not positive that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>qualcom meant to do. Right. Well, it was pretty great

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<v Speaker 1>for me to watch anyway there, and there were there

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<v Speaker 1>were tons of interesting moments. I mean, there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of celebrities there. I saw Danny DeVito. He was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing it It's always sunny in Philadelphia Baseball cap. But

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to chat with him. He was He

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<v Speaker 1>was very far away and on top of a stage,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a feeling that if I had gone

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<v Speaker 1>up to stay hi to him, some very large men

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<v Speaker 1>would have very prevented you, very gently but firmly discouraged

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<v Speaker 1>me from doing that. Um. But Day DeVito was there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are other performers. Fifty Set was their exhibit.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there. Um, Felicia Day was running around. Felicia Day

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<v Speaker 1>was the Entertainment Matters ambassador to c She had one

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<v Speaker 1>of her fans made a sash for her and she

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<v Speaker 1>wore that the entire time. Uh, I'm delightful, I am

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<v Speaker 1>told I didn't run into Miss Day this time. I

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<v Speaker 1>have met her in the past, but I did not

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<v Speaker 1>see her this time. L L. Cool J was there,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were not allowed to call it a come back. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There were Yeah, there were a lot of performers there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of them also lend their names to

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<v Speaker 1>particular products or they endorse specific products where they are

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<v Speaker 1>there to help bring even more attention to a specific company.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is the company's chance, any individual company's

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<v Speaker 1>chance to grab that spotlight. But they're competing against everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can pull out a lot of stops, room

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<v Speaker 1>full of three thousand spotlights and everyone trying to write

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<v Speaker 1>just your your rubber necking all over the place, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to see what the next big thing is. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you really are struggling to try and capture that attention.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were some of those next big things? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about It's it's easiest probably to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this in terms of product category groups of stuff, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we could go company by company, but that just

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<v Speaker 1>gets really confusing. So let's talk about t vs first

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<v Speaker 1>of all. Now, televisions, that's always a big thing at CES.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're big, they're shiny, I mean you can and

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<v Speaker 1>they they're getting pretty darn big. There were more than

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<v Speaker 1>a few eighty four inch sets on the show floor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a bunch. Yeah, And there was one inch

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<v Speaker 1>TV as well that I saw, So, I mean, these

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<v Speaker 1>are not those aren't typical. Most of the ones you

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<v Speaker 1>see are tend to be still huge, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in the six seventy in range, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were a few there were oh, LAD screens that were

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<v Speaker 1>more like in theft inch But that's huge too, because

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<v Speaker 1>huge in a different way. A few years ago, when

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<v Speaker 1>when when my former co host and I Chris, when

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<v Speaker 1>we first went the very first year I went to

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<v Speaker 1>c S, I remember that the two of us marveled

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<v Speaker 1>over an o LAD display that was eleven inches and

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<v Speaker 1>it was and you sit there and look at and

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<v Speaker 1>you knew that was never going to market. This was

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<v Speaker 1>just a proto prototypes. Now we're seeing fifty five inch

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<v Speaker 1>TVs with OLED displays that are becoming more and more

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<v Speaker 1>of something that we're gonna see come to market, including

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<v Speaker 1>high ultra high definition displays. We're talking four K resolutions,

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<v Speaker 1>so four times the ten a DP resolution that we

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<v Speaker 1>consider high definition. This is ultra high definition. This is

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly vibrant colors, great like you can get right up

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<v Speaker 1>onto the screen and stare at it and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>see the pixelation. It's pretty phenomenal stuff. Um you got

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<v Speaker 1>usually you have a pretty high refresh rate, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>refreshing the image at a very uh fast rate, so

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got this very smooth motion. If any of

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<v Speaker 1>you went out and saw the hobbit in the forty

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<v Speaker 1>frames per second. You know what high frame rate looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like that. It's great for stuff like sports,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little distracting in some other forms of entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned, just because it gives a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of glider unreal. It's weird to say unreal because

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<v Speaker 1>it's very real, because because it's extremely real, but but

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<v Speaker 1>not cinematic or or or it doesn't feel like TV right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's whenever you're dealing with a film format

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<v Speaker 1>that was not really intended to be shown at that resolution,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to run into issues like that. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard that actually, Sony, which is one of the companies

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<v Speaker 1>that has one of these super high definition televisions out

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<v Speaker 1>is starting to put out four K cameras. Yes, there

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<v Speaker 1>were four K cameras out there on display in the

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<v Speaker 1>on the show floor. They looked very heavy, These were

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<v Speaker 1>big cameras, but there. But Sony's actually leading the way

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<v Speaker 1>and creating four K cameras meant for the consumer, so

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<v Speaker 1>not just the pro sumer or the professional. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there have been four K cameras available for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, but they were just within the grasp of

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<v Speaker 1>movie directors studios. Yeah, we're talking like you had to

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<v Speaker 1>have millions of dollars to get them. Now they're still

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<v Speaker 1>not cheap there, there are thousands and thousands of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're starting to get to a point where they

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<v Speaker 1>are within the grasp of consumers who happened to have

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<v Speaker 1>a good amount of discretionary income. But you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is that we're seeing. This is the way

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<v Speaker 1>technology works, right. You see a new technology come out

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<v Speaker 1>and at first it's really expensive, and then as more

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<v Speaker 1>people adopt it, manufacturing processes improved, things get more efficient,

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<v Speaker 1>and the prices start to come down. The same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Moore's law. I mean that's the basis of Moore's

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<v Speaker 1>law as well. But getting back to TVs, Ultra high

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<v Speaker 1>definition was the buzzword in TVs. I mean everyone had

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<v Speaker 1>an ultra high definition television. Samsung showed off an eight

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<v Speaker 1>K TV which was enormous and was really more of

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<v Speaker 1>a prototype concept type thing. Um there does there's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a point where the human eye will not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to discern the difference in quality once you get to

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<v Speaker 1>beyond a certain resolution. We're just not most of us

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the acuity to be able to see that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of difference. But it means that you could create

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<v Speaker 1>ever larger screens and not not lose resolution. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>it may not be good for a consumer, which is

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<v Speaker 1>weird when you think of the name used to be

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<v Speaker 1>consumer electronics, showcase or show rather. Uh, it might not

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<v Speaker 1>be for a consumer, but you might have an enormous display,

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<v Speaker 1>say in Times Square or Piccadilly Circus, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have an enormous display that has great resolution, and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having it made up of fifteen screens, it's

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<v Speaker 1>made up of one enormous screen. You could theoretically do

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<v Speaker 1>that once you get that resolution cranked up pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest criticism I heard of the four K TVs

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with the sets. It was these

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<v Speaker 1>are amazing TVs, The images are beautiful. Where is the

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<v Speaker 1>content going to come from? Because without having someone to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver the four K content, you have a television that's

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<v Speaker 1>capable of showing these amazing pictures, but it's not getting

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<v Speaker 1>the information it needs in order to do that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate legs and again he suggested that perhaps we might

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<v Speaker 1>expect the next generation of video game consoles to support

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<v Speaker 1>four K, so they would become a reason for people

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<v Speaker 1>to upgrade their TVs, not not that you could only

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<v Speaker 1>see it in four K, but that they'd be capable.

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<v Speaker 1>I I just made a face, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>face was me imagining playing Survive a horror video game

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<v Speaker 1>K and that doesn't sound like a thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>actually want to do it. It would be the blacks

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<v Speaker 1>would be very, very true blacks on the screen. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there was one oh Lad TV that one

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<v Speaker 1>person said gave it an infinite contrast ratio, and the

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<v Speaker 1>contrast ratio we're really talking about how how true is

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<v Speaker 1>the black on that screen? Because of course, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>using an ol l c D screen, it's backlit, and

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<v Speaker 1>so anytime there's anything on the screen, anytime the set

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<v Speaker 1>is on, there's a light behind the screen that's on.

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<v Speaker 1>So there could be problems with backlit displays showing a

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<v Speaker 1>true black on the screen because it didn't come out

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<v Speaker 1>like charcoal gray. But a lot of the sets there

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<v Speaker 1>were more about representing true black on the screen. They

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<v Speaker 1>also had there was the world's first curved oh led TV. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>two of them. Did you get to see any of those?

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<v Speaker 1>I got to see both of them both. Yeah. See,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing is that you have l G which

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<v Speaker 1>had the world's first curved oh led TV, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had Samsung, which had the world's first curved tvOS and Curious.

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<v Speaker 1>Both companies were claiming that they had the first curved

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<v Speaker 1>led TV. Why you would want to curved oh led TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm sure there are reasons, and I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 1>are valid, but I do not know what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard. I've heard that um that actually viewing from

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<v Speaker 1>the sides gets easier with a curve. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean at least at least for the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the screen. I would imagine if you get a little

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<v Speaker 1>too far are than the curvature would mean that the

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<v Speaker 1>side closest to you would be obscure. But it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very slight curve. It is. We're not talking about you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's not like a yeah exactly, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is a very subtle curve. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that if you're looking at it from

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<v Speaker 1>the side, you can, like from profile, you can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise it's not like if you were looking at

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<v Speaker 1>dead on It's not uh, incredibly obvious. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that both of them had it, and that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things about Leo led screens is that you

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<v Speaker 1>can create uh, curved or even flexible screens depending upon

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<v Speaker 1>the material you're using. Um, so that was kind of neat.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick moment to thank our sponsor now

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<v Speaker 1>and now back to the show. Also, there was not

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<v Speaker 1>as much of an emphasis on three D this year. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it two years ago that three D was

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<v Speaker 1>just the buzzword and everyone was Yeah, two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say was probably the hardest push for three D.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had three D Last year. Three D was still

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<v Speaker 1>important and there were a few play pass that had

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<v Speaker 1>the glasses free three D, which uh, you know requires

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<v Speaker 1>that you are in a sweet spot to view it

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<v Speaker 1>and three D effect. Uh. Three D was not as

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<v Speaker 1>it was still present in several different sets on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not nearly as big a feature touted

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<v Speaker 1>this year as it has been a year's past. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that people have started to realize

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<v Speaker 1>that not everyone is going to go out, run out

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<v Speaker 1>and replace their entire television in order to get this

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<v Speaker 1>content that really only exists in an extremely small sample

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<v Speaker 1>size of the media that you can play. Yeah, there's that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's also people who still resist any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of television that would require them to wear glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you have two choices. You have the

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<v Speaker 1>active shutter lens glasses, which means that these are glasses

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<v Speaker 1>that required to be you knowed, their battery operated right,

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<v Speaker 1>or you have the passive ones. But either way you

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep track of them. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, Lauren, but for me, it's very easy

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<v Speaker 1>for me to lose my remote. I would hate to

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<v Speaker 1>also lose the glasses I need to watch my TV

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<v Speaker 1>right sure, And for for me personally, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>really I avoid seeing movies in three D whenever I can,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's kind of headachey and a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>orient it can be for some people. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>three D effect. It's just that, uh, it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a killer feature for me. Now that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one company, Samsung in fact, that had a

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<v Speaker 1>dual vision television A dual view TV. Yeah, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>about that. It's it's essentially a split screen television, except

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<v Speaker 1>both screens are happening at the same time, and depending

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<v Speaker 1>on which pair of glasses you're wearing it's it's projecting

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<v Speaker 1>two images and two different people can sit in front

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<v Speaker 1>of it and see two different things and c two

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<v Speaker 1>different and you're hooked up to a two headphones something

0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you're each listening to your you can get and there

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<v Speaker 1>are two different variations of this too. You could get

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<v Speaker 1>one that was active, or you could get passive. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, the Samsung said I looked at was passive,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that you would have one set of glasses that

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<v Speaker 1>would have polarized lenses that are aligned in one way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have a second set of glasses that

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<v Speaker 1>be polarized but aligned, uh like ninety degrees exactly that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. And normally with a three D set,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have the same kind of setup, except you

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<v Speaker 1>would have one lens polarized one way the other lens

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<v Speaker 1>polarized another way. So each eye accepts a different set

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<v Speaker 1>of images, your brain combines the two that's what gives

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<v Speaker 1>you the three D effect. In this case, the implementation

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<v Speaker 1>was different. Both eyes got the same set of images,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a different set of images than someone

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the other pair of glasses. So you could play

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<v Speaker 1>a video game and you're looking at one screen and

0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the person playing against you is looking at another screen.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine playing a game like there's this thing called

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<v Speaker 1>football that I've heard about that sometimes a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Madden likes to play. Anyway, if you wanted to set

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<v Speaker 1>a specific kind of play, like a hail Mary pass

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<v Speaker 1>is a thing, you could select that. And you're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>your glasses so you can totally see everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. Your opponent is wearing a different pair

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<v Speaker 1>of glasses. They can't see what you see. They're seeing

0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 1>their side, so it keeps everything secret. Yeah. So so

0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:13.400
<v Speaker 1>there's there's virtually no way to screen look right. And

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<v Speaker 1>also it would even allow you to do things like

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<v Speaker 1>watch two different Theoretically you could watch two different programs

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, but of course that does require

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<v Speaker 1>that you have your own individual audio feed in otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you would just hear a jumble of audio everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be Yeah. So while my wife was watching

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary series Supernatural, I could be watching something a

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<v Speaker 1>little more akin to my tastes, like, um, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that Mitchell and web look keep show both of it,

0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.160
<v Speaker 1>which have David Mitchell and Rubbert Webb. Jonathan don't don't

0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.560
<v Speaker 1>pretend that you don't like the documentary series Supernatural. We

0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are dreaming. They are dreamy, dreamy boys. But yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of sums up. I mean, like everyone had

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<v Speaker 1>these different TVs. If you were to ask me who

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<v Speaker 1>had the best TV out there, I could not give

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<v Speaker 1>you an answer because we've reached a level of quality

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<v Speaker 1>where it's it's beyond my ability to describe it to people. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to keep in mind that every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of these companies spinds a huge amount of time calibrating

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<v Speaker 1>those televisions so that they look perfect, perfect in that environment. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're talking about a big convention center where you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not going to have the same sort of

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<v Speaker 1>viewing condition as you would in your in your house. Probably,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think your house would have the same lighting

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<v Speaker 1>as the convention center, dead unless your house has one

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<v Speaker 1>point nine, in which case, in which case, dude, hook

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<v Speaker 1>us up will come for your barbecue. I will bake

0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you brownies. There we go. But yeah, that was beyond TVs.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the next category, a big one, would be computers.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. I guess computers are sort of a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that people use. Computers and tablets. Yeah, computers, tablets together.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had tablets everyone. There were a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>tablets out there, including a lot of Windows eight tablets,

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<v Speaker 1>so people were starting to really start to show off

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<v Speaker 1>the Windows eight user interface and tablet format, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>including a gaming tablet which we'll talk about later. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty impressive. The big one, the big one

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<v Speaker 1>that I heard of, and I literally big one was

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft's um no, not Microsoft, sorry, the Lenovo Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Idea Center table PC. Yeah, yeah, I want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty seven inches and it's an all in one PC.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's vertical, it runs Windows eight, so you've got

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<v Speaker 1>it vertically aligned where it's you know, like you could

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<v Speaker 1>have it mounted. They had it mounted on like a

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<v Speaker 1>cart kind of thing. But when it was vertically aligned,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Windows eight. So it's that touch screen user interface.

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<v Speaker 1>It's running a full version of Windows eight. You could

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<v Speaker 1>do all the things on it that you could do

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<v Speaker 1>with the Windows eight machine, except for pick it up

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<v Speaker 1>and move it into another room by yourself. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was was a bit of a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>hefty device, but then when you would tilt it horizontally,

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<v Speaker 1>it would switch to Lenovo's proprietary user interface, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would become a surface for you to play on. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>surface is a great term. It reminded me a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the Microsoft Surface table top, which is now called

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<v Speaker 1>Pixel since I think but um, you know, now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we think of surface as the tablet, but before

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<v Speaker 1>it was this big table thing. Well, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what the Lenovo Idea Center becomes. It's multi touch and

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<v Speaker 1>can detect up to ten points of contact at once. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been good for for games, gaming, sharing, media sharing videos.

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>You can have a bunch of people around staring staring

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<v Speaker 1>at this table and playing with it. Um, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was interesting. It's and supposedly it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to come out summer of two thousand thirteen. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of things that kind of, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>confuse me a little bit. One is that uh, Lenovo

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<v Speaker 1>is really known for doing these kind of hybrid things,

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<v Speaker 1>like they've done the hybrid to have what computer stuff before.

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<v Speaker 1>They've also been known to announce things that never quite

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<v Speaker 1>make it out to stores, Like there was the Lenovo

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you won that I went crazy for like three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and it never really came out actually happened. Yeah, Um

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm a little cautious about this. Also, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how how compelling or useful it would be to

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<v Speaker 1>the average consumer. Um, it was interesting. I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was an interesting implementation of touch screen technology. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I can't think of a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I would get one. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a nifty toy, and I can see

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<v Speaker 1>the just the sexy factor of of having something in

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<v Speaker 1>your home that you can share something, you know, share

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<v Speaker 1>share q YouTube video on without having to pull a

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<v Speaker 1>phone out of your pocket and have it and be

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<v Speaker 1>of a size that you would actually want to watch it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could do that with a regular computer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just interesting that when you mean, it makes it easier

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<v Speaker 1>to share stuff, and it was very attractive to share

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<v Speaker 1>stuff using the Lenovo user interface, But you can still

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<v Speaker 1>do that on a computer without that, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, I just I

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 1>would be afraid of the first time that, you know,

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>one of my friends forgot that it was a really

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 1>expensive piece of equipment and put their drink down on

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 1>top of something like hot coffee or something. Yeah, that

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I would worry about that too. There were other like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Ultra books were still on display. We

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<v Speaker 1>had Ultra books debuted at CS two thousand twelve. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still a thing. The sales for computers have not

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<v Speaker 1>been great in two thousands. They weren't great in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand twelve, and I'm not sure that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>improve significantly over the course of two thousand thirteen. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean do you mean computers in general or computers

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<v Speaker 1>laptops in general? Computers, yeah, like tablets not so are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, but anything like a laptop or desktop does

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>have not been doing so well. And but there were

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>still quite a few on display, and some of them

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>were very gorgeous that I saw, and a sous laptop

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that was incredibly thin. Of the edges, mean, when you

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>got to the to the they would taper off, right,

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the edges tapered off until you got to the very end,

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like the base of where the keyboard is, and you

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>look like you could get a paper cut. That's how

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 1>That's how thin it looked to the naked eye. But

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>they also had some interesting prototype tablets out there, including

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 1>four K resolution tablets. I remember there was one that

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>my friend Nate said was five pounds and I said,

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a very reasonable price, and then he hit me.

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Actually was I Zactar? Who hit me? Is another name drop.

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm just I can't hold onto them. They

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>just keep slipping out of my fingers. Well, you just

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>you just have so many really important, popular friends that

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 1>you can't really I don't know if they would call

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>themselves friends. They're definitely popular and important though. Yeah, these

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>are great people now. I met, I met and chatted

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of really great people while I was

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>out there. That was one of my favorite parts of

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>CS was getting the the perspective of folks who also

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>focus on very specific parts of technology because I look

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>at everything, so to hear someone who really concentrates on

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>one area, I hear perspectives that I never thought about.

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>That's great. Absolutely beyond computers, let's see what else. Phones? Phones?

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>They had some smart smartphones are there're a thing? Yeah?

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>There were some some nice ones on the floor. The

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Samsung Galaxy Note too was there. So if you like

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>your phones the size of a small state, um. Now, actually,

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>people give it all. Give the larger phones some attitude,

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>they give them the business as I like to say, Uh,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>they are big, but I actually really like them too.

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Galaxy Note was one of those devices

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that I debated on picking up. I ultimately did not,

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>but I almost did. Um. It does bridge an interesting

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>gap between smartphone and tablet, which is why we have

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the horrible word of fablet. Oh no, no one say that.

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, dude, Let's strike that from the collective consciousness shell.

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I would much prefer tone yeah instead of a or

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>a phone I like, I like, that's still better. Let's

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>just well anyway, Sampson Galaxy Note two was there. That

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>was nice. The Next is four they which has been

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>available for a while. I should say, it's not like

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the Nexus four is brand new. The Next is four

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 1>from l G has been around for a while, but

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>it was the first time I actually got to play

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>with one, because those things go out of stock so

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>fast that they can never get hold of one. But

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that that's running the latest version of Android, and in fact,

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the big thing with the Nexus four is

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that it's you can actually buy it directly from Google,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>which makes it different from any other phone, and you

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>can be fairly confident that as long as the hardware

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>will support it, it will always run the latest version

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of Android. At least that's the assumption reality could play

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>out differently. Samsung also had a flexible phone that wasn't

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 1>on display, but they showed it off of their keynote

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>flexible phone. Huh I heard, I heard that Sony had

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>a waterproof phone. The experience Z Yeah, very pretty phone.

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>The experience phones were very very pretty to look at.

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And the experience Z was that they would Dunkleman too

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 1>aquariums and showed they were still working just fine. Um. Yeah,

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>there were quite a few and and and tons and

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>tons of phone accessories on the floor, so um, everything

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 1>from special cases that have colorful designs on them. Two

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>things like utter Box, which specializes in protective cases, including

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>some that are you know, dustproof, shatterproof, waterproof, I mean

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you're talking like mega protective cases. Uh. They had some

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 1>other cases I saw on display where people were doing

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>things like essentially dropping bowling balls onto devices and showing

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>how the the cases were distributing the force in such

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a way to provide the maximum amount of coverage of

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 1>protection with the minimum amount of damage. I say minimum

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>because there still was some because it's still a bowling ball,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>still a bowling ball and it's still a phone. And uh,

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>the other big, big category that I wanted to say

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>would be able though I don't know, smart appliance. This

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>is smart I yeah, I keep I keep hearing about

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>this Internet of things. Yeah, that's part of it, um,

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>smart appliances. The definition is kind of tricky. Back in

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the day, we used to call it anything that connected

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to the Internet was smart. Or if it ran widgets,

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>it was smart, right, you know, if you can download

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>applications and change the software, or if it connected to

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>some other thing in your house, it was smart. And

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing is that there are a lot of

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>different definitions for smart and no one has really become

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the the perfect example. So there are a lot of

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>different implementations. At the end of the day's the marketing term,

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>not not you know something FDA proof. There were some

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>interesting implementations. L g S approach was to include NFC

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>technology that's near field communication technology, which is that same

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff that lets you use your smartphone to pay for

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff where you tap your smartphone against a little vendors

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>receiver and then it transfers the payment. Sure, if you

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.239
<v Speaker 1>have a certain application, you can you can bump your

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>phone against somebody else's and transformation. Yeah, like like like

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>contact information or a message like stop hitting your phone

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>against my phone. Um, yeah, same sort of thing. NFC

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>allows for this very near field communication. I mean, that's

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>what it stands for. It It let's devices that are

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>very close to one another exchange infote. It's usually very

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>light as far as the data transfers considered. Well, in

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the case of LG, they had it where you could

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>have a smartphone, you tap it against your various appliances,

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like say your washer and dryer, and you could even

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>do things like update your washer and dryer with new

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>means of drying and washing your clothes. I didn't know

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that this was a thing. Yeah, I never I never

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>thought about the firmware of your washer and dryer or

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>updating it. Certainly, I'm still getting to the fact that

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I can update my Xbox. So yeah, you know, no,

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there with you, Lauren. I mean I sat

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>there and I thought about, like, is this telling me that, hey,

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I know a better way to agitate your clothes. I mean,

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that's I'm sure there's a real use case for it.

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>It just seemed like it was a little bit of

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>an interesting approach. Now, I should also say LG has

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>built it in so that it makes registering your device

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>is very easy, so that when when you tap your smartphone,

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it's registered because it's already got all the information. Yeah,

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>so that's all you need to do. You don't You

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have to type in model numbers and all that

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. And I'm kind of intrigued by by

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>some of the They also have a touch screen fridge,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe, and you can you can look up recipes

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and say your ingredient lists, and and send a shopping

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>list to your cell phone, right, and you can do

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>things like with some of these devices, you could do

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>things like you have your let's say you have your

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.719
<v Speaker 1>list of ingredients in your refrigerator. You can say, all right, well,

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>based upon what's in my refrigerator, what can I make

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>for dinner? And it will pull up recipe. Is that

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>incorporate the stuff that it knows you have? Now, granted

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to you have to input what you have exactly.

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't automatically know when you put in a cart

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>in the milk. That would be cool, that would Yeah.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I want them to train the little elves whose job

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>it is to turn off the light when you close

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the door to just write down what you've got in there.

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And those are my favorite elves. Yeah, they're great. They're

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>right there with the Keeblers. So who lived in a

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>full house? As it turns out, the the the interesting

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is that you could also have an ecosystem where

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it sends that information, the recipe information to your stove.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're stove like let's say that it involves that

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to let's say you're gonna roast some vegetables

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>because that's what you have in there, like, oh, you know,

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>roasted to rest in Vegas tonight. Fantastic, And you push

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that button and since the information to the stove, which

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>immediately begins to preheat to the appropriate temperature. So this

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>way you've got this kind of ecosystem. Now here's the problem.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>This is this is my problem with smart appliances. And

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I've said this before. Most of the require that you

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>buy into one ecosystem. So you have to have all

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>of your devices from the same manufacturer if you want

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>it to have this interconnectivity, uh to work. Otherwise they're

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>just gonna be standalone devices. Now, most of these are

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>fantastic standalone appliances anyway. Oh sure, well, I mean, you

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>know they're putting their putting this kind of tech into

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the their highest end the highest ends. Yes, but if

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to have that connectivity, then you have to

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>end up investing in one ecosystem. My definition of smart

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>is when we reach a level where you can buy

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your appliance from any of these vendors that are making

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>these kind of devices and they all talk to each other.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>To me, that's what is smart, at least from a

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>consumer standpoint. Also, I don't know that there are that

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>many people who could buy into an ecosystem and change

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>all of their appliances at the same time. That's expensive.

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're talking about refrigerator, washer, dryer, stove, TV.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, TV is part of the too smartphone, but possibly, um,

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>it's getting into that process. We're kind of like, that's

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>expensive and and my worry is you would start to

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>adopt something and then what happens if three years down

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the road, when you're about to upgrade the rest of

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>your stuff, the company no longer exists. That's a problem.

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.479
<v Speaker 1>So there's some there's still some downsides to smart appliances. Um,

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it will be interesting to see where this goes. I

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hope we get to a more open, uh standard for

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>communication between devices, you know. I mean, I'm excited about

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the concept of being able to use your smartphone to

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>to control anything in your house, from your television to

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>your washer, dryer, to your light system to etcetera. Just

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>just having a triquarter, you know, a glitch. For those

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of you who watched reboot, all ten of you out there, high,

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I love you, um and uh yeah, no I I

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to that too. And it's uh, I

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>have some stuff that I can control with my smartphone

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>actually with my tablet really, and that's most that's like

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the Xbox. I have smart glass on my tablet and

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's just a small of the type of stuff

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>we can see in the future. And I agree, that's

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>very exciting. So um yeah, it's that's the smart appliances.

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>But there's so much more to talk about, uh with

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>c E. S. So, Lauren Jonathan, it turns out that

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of stuff at the ES more

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>than two things, more than two things, and uh and

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>uh so doing a one episode about all the things

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.959
<v Speaker 1>I saw and experience to c S is a little

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>much to ask our listeners to bear because it would

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>be really long. I think an hour and seven minutes. Actually,

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>do you think about that much? According to the estimate

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that I kept going by asking Tyler. Yeah, So we

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>decided we're going to split this episode up, as we

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>sometimes do when they get so long that that's a thing,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and um, we're going to conclude right here, but we'll

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>be back in our next episode to conclude the stuff

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I saw at CES and some things that made the

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>news while I was there, And so I highly recommend

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys tune in and hear how all this adventure concludes.

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Will there be a happy ending? Or did Jonathan get

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>left at Las Vegas? I think we know the answer. Yeah,

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not a mystery. Okay, Well, anyway, if

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