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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from House

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Speaker 1: to Fox dot Com. Hey there, everyone, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: tech Stuff. This is Jonathan Stricklab, your host extraordinaire, and

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Speaker 1: I'm Lauren bulk Baum, the first and only member of

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Speaker 1: the Society for the Prevention of Hedgehog under Representation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then it's a true fact. You can look it up

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Speaker 1: on the internet. Will do alright. So to Lauren, ask

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Speaker 1: me how I'm feeling. How are you feeling, Jonathan, I'm exhausted. Lauren. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I'm barely able to string two coherent sentences together. Why

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Speaker 1: is that, Jonathan? That would be because I just returned,

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Speaker 1: as in within the last forty eight hours from c

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Speaker 1: e S in Las Vegas, Nevada. We live in Atlanta, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: which is nowhere near Las Vegas, Nevada, and she has

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Speaker 1: a totally different time zone. Yeah yeah, Trixie, Trixie. That

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Speaker 1: c c S being um the the convention formerly known

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Speaker 1: as the Consumer Electronics Show, Yep, yep. Now they're just

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Speaker 1: known as c e S and this is where companies

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Speaker 1: come to show off the product lines that they want

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Speaker 1: stores to carry. So, uh, I have a friend this

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of name dropping or potentially

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Speaker 1: a lot of name dropping in this episode, and I

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Speaker 1: want to warn everybody about that. I'm friends with Nate Lankson,

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Speaker 1: who is the editor of Wired dot co dot UK.

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Speaker 1: Former c NET employee. Nate is a great guy. I

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Speaker 1: got to meet him in person for the first time

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Speaker 1: at the c E s and Nate's perspective. As we

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Speaker 1: were walking around, he was saying to me, Jonathan, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand is that why these booths here that

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Speaker 1: have these ipolled cases? I mean, what, why would they

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Speaker 1: even bother? And he doesn't. Actually suddenly that Ben't may

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Speaker 1: But I said, well, Nate, you know you have to

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Speaker 1: understand that a lot of these these then these manufacturers

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Speaker 1: are actually here in the hopes of getting their products

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Speaker 1: carried in various catalogs and in retail stores. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: all meant for me. And I said, actually, Nate, so

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Speaker 1: do I. So we shared something in common. But I

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Speaker 1: do understand, you know, that's the purpose for the event

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Speaker 1: front of retail establishments to say, hey, here's all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that's gonna come out this year. Isn't it pretty

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Speaker 1: and shiny? And don't you want it? And quite a

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Speaker 1: few people do this. There's more than three thousand exhibitors

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Speaker 1: as of yeah, this show, So these numbers are very

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Speaker 1: slightly outdated. Um uh And and they are crammed into

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Speaker 1: shows where attendance was down, especially right after the recession.

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Speaker 1: A lot of companies ended up not being able to go.

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Speaker 1: They weren't able to afford the space. You know, they

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Speaker 1: were having bad year might not have been the best

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Speaker 1: time to show off. According according to wired It, it

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Speaker 1: costs like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars minimum for

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Speaker 1: large presence. Now, there were a couple of exceptions. Microsoft

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Speaker 1: the show, although that didn't stop Bomber from showing up

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Speaker 1: qualcom meant to do. Right. Well, it was pretty great

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Speaker 1: of all. Now, televisions, that's always a big thing at CES.

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Speaker 1: share q YouTube video on without having to pull a

429
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Speaker 1: phone out of your pocket and have it and be

430
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Speaker 1: of a size that you would actually want to watch it. Yeah,

431
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: but you could do that with a regular computer. It's

432
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: just interesting that when you mean, it makes it easier

433
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: to share stuff, and it was very attractive to share

434
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: stuff using the Lenovo user interface, But you can still

435
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: do that on a computer without that, which is why

436
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, I just I

437
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: would be afraid of the first time that, you know,

438
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: one of my friends forgot that it was a really

439
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: expensive piece of equipment and put their drink down on

440
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: top of something like hot coffee or something. Yeah, that

441
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: I would worry about that too. There were other like

442
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot of Ultra books were still on display. We

443
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 1: had Ultra books debuted at CS two thousand twelve. Um,

444
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: there's still a thing. The sales for computers have not

445
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: been great in two thousands. They weren't great in two

446
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, and I'm not sure that they're going to

447
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: improve significantly over the course of two thousand thirteen. Do

448
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: you mean do you mean computers in general or computers

449
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: laptops in general? Computers, yeah, like tablets not so are

450
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: pretty good, but anything like a laptop or desktop does

451
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: have not been doing so well. And but there were

452
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: still quite a few on display, and some of them

453
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: were very gorgeous that I saw, and a sous laptop

454
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: that was incredibly thin. Of the edges, mean, when you

455
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: got to the to the they would taper off, right,

456
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: the edges tapered off until you got to the very end,

457
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: like the base of where the keyboard is, and you

458
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: look like you could get a paper cut. That's how

459
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: That's how thin it looked to the naked eye. But

460
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: they also had some interesting prototype tablets out there, including

461
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: four K resolution tablets. I remember there was one that

462
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: my friend Nate said was five pounds and I said,

463
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 1: that's a very reasonable price, and then he hit me.

464
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: Actually was I Zactar? Who hit me? Is another name drop.

465
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just I can't hold onto them. They

466
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: just keep slipping out of my fingers. Well, you just

467
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: you just have so many really important, popular friends that

468
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: you can't really I don't know if they would call

469
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: themselves friends. They're definitely popular and important though. Yeah, these

470
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: are great people now. I met, I met and chatted

471
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: with a lot of really great people while I was

472
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: out there. That was one of my favorite parts of

473
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: CS was getting the the perspective of folks who also

474
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: focus on very specific parts of technology because I look

475
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: at everything, so to hear someone who really concentrates on

476
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: one area, I hear perspectives that I never thought about.

477
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: That's great. Absolutely beyond computers, let's see what else. Phones? Phones?

478
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: They had some smart smartphones are there're a thing? Yeah?

479
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: There were some some nice ones on the floor. The

480
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: Samsung Galaxy Note too was there. So if you like

481
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: your phones the size of a small state, um. Now, actually,

482
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: people give it all. Give the larger phones some attitude,

483
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: they give them the business as I like to say, Uh,

484
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: they are big, but I actually really like them too.

485
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the Galaxy Note was one of those devices

486
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: that I debated on picking up. I ultimately did not,

487
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: but I almost did. Um. It does bridge an interesting

488
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: gap between smartphone and tablet, which is why we have

489
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: the horrible word of fablet. Oh no, no one say that.

490
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: Don't know, dude, Let's strike that from the collective consciousness shell.

491
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: I would much prefer tone yeah instead of a or

492
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: a phone I like, I like, that's still better. Let's

493
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: just well anyway, Sampson Galaxy Note two was there. That

494
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: was nice. The Next is four they which has been

495
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: available for a while. I should say, it's not like

496
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: the Nexus four is brand new. The Next is four

497
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: from l G has been around for a while, but

498
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: it was the first time I actually got to play

499
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: with one, because those things go out of stock so

500
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: fast that they can never get hold of one. But

501
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: that that's running the latest version of Android, and in fact,

502
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: that's that's the big thing with the Nexus four is

503
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: that it's you can actually buy it directly from Google,

504
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: which makes it different from any other phone, and you

505
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: can be fairly confident that as long as the hardware

506
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: will support it, it will always run the latest version

507
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: of Android. At least that's the assumption reality could play

508
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: out differently. Samsung also had a flexible phone that wasn't

509
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: on display, but they showed it off of their keynote

510
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: flexible phone. Huh I heard, I heard that Sony had

511
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: a waterproof phone. The experience Z Yeah, very pretty phone.

512
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: The experience phones were very very pretty to look at.

513
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: And the experience Z was that they would Dunkleman too

514
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: aquariums and showed they were still working just fine. Um. Yeah,

515
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: there were quite a few and and and tons and

516
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: tons of phone accessories on the floor, so um, everything

517
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: from special cases that have colorful designs on them. Two

518
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: things like utter Box, which specializes in protective cases, including

519
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: some that are you know, dustproof, shatterproof, waterproof, I mean

520
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: you're talking like mega protective cases. Uh. They had some

521
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: other cases I saw on display where people were doing

522
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: things like essentially dropping bowling balls onto devices and showing

523
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: how the the cases were distributing the force in such

524
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: a way to provide the maximum amount of coverage of

525
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: protection with the minimum amount of damage. I say minimum

526
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: because there still was some because it's still a bowling ball,

527
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: still a bowling ball and it's still a phone. And uh,

528
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: the other big, big category that I wanted to say

529
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: would be able though I don't know, smart appliance. This

530
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: is smart I yeah, I keep I keep hearing about

531
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: this Internet of things. Yeah, that's part of it, um,

532
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: smart appliances. The definition is kind of tricky. Back in

533
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: the day, we used to call it anything that connected

534
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: to the Internet was smart. Or if it ran widgets,

535
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: it was smart, right, you know, if you can download

536
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: applications and change the software, or if it connected to

537
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: some other thing in your house, it was smart. And

538
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that there are a lot of

539
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: different definitions for smart and no one has really become

540
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: the the perfect example. So there are a lot of

541
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: different implementations. At the end of the day's the marketing term,

542
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: not not you know something FDA proof. There were some

543
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: interesting implementations. L g S approach was to include NFC

544
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: technology that's near field communication technology, which is that same

545
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: stuff that lets you use your smartphone to pay for

546
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: stuff where you tap your smartphone against a little vendors

547
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: receiver and then it transfers the payment. Sure, if you

548
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: have a certain application, you can you can bump your

549
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: phone against somebody else's and transformation. Yeah, like like like

550
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: contact information or a message like stop hitting your phone

551
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: against my phone. Um, yeah, same sort of thing. NFC

552
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: allows for this very near field communication. I mean, that's

553
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: what it stands for. It It let's devices that are

554
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: very close to one another exchange infote. It's usually very

555
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: light as far as the data transfers considered. Well, in

556
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: the case of LG, they had it where you could

557
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: have a smartphone, you tap it against your various appliances,

558
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: like say your washer and dryer, and you could even

559
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: do things like update your washer and dryer with new

560
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: means of drying and washing your clothes. I didn't know

561
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: that this was a thing. Yeah, I never I never

562
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: thought about the firmware of your washer and dryer or

563
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: updating it. Certainly, I'm still getting to the fact that

564
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: I can update my Xbox. So yeah, you know, no,

565
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, Lauren. I mean I sat

566
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: there and I thought about, like, is this telling me that, hey,

567
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: I know a better way to agitate your clothes. I mean,

568
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: that's I'm sure there's a real use case for it.

569
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: It just seemed like it was a little bit of

570
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: an interesting approach. Now, I should also say LG has

571
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: built it in so that it makes registering your device

572
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: is very easy, so that when when you tap your smartphone,

573
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: it's registered because it's already got all the information. Yeah,

574
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: so that's all you need to do. You don't You

575
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: don't have to type in model numbers and all that

576
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And I'm kind of intrigued by by

577
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: some of the They also have a touch screen fridge,

578
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: I believe, and you can you can look up recipes

579
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: and say your ingredient lists, and and send a shopping

580
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: list to your cell phone, right, and you can do

581
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: things like with some of these devices, you could do

582
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: things like you have your let's say you have your

583
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: list of ingredients in your refrigerator. You can say, all right, well,

584
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: based upon what's in my refrigerator, what can I make

585
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: for dinner? And it will pull up recipe. Is that

586
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: incorporate the stuff that it knows you have? Now, granted

587
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: you have to you have to input what you have exactly.

588
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't automatically know when you put in a cart

589
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: in the milk. That would be cool, that would Yeah.

590
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: I want them to train the little elves whose job

591
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: it is to turn off the light when you close

592
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: the door to just write down what you've got in there.

593
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: And those are my favorite elves. Yeah, they're great. They're

594
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: right there with the Keeblers. So who lived in a

595
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: full house? As it turns out, the the the interesting

596
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: thing is that you could also have an ecosystem where

597
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: it sends that information, the recipe information to your stove.

598
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: So you're stove like let's say that it involves that

599
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: you're going to let's say you're gonna roast some vegetables

600
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: because that's what you have in there, like, oh, you know,

601
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: roasted to rest in Vegas tonight. Fantastic, And you push

602
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: that button and since the information to the stove, which

603
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: immediately begins to preheat to the appropriate temperature. So this

604
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: way you've got this kind of ecosystem. Now here's the problem.

605
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: This is this is my problem with smart appliances. And

606
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: I've said this before. Most of the require that you

607
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: buy into one ecosystem. So you have to have all

608
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: of your devices from the same manufacturer if you want

609
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: it to have this interconnectivity, uh to work. Otherwise they're

610
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: just gonna be standalone devices. Now, most of these are

611
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: fantastic standalone appliances anyway. Oh sure, well, I mean, you

612
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: know they're putting their putting this kind of tech into

613
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: the their highest end the highest ends. Yes, but if

614
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: you want to have that connectivity, then you have to

615
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: end up investing in one ecosystem. My definition of smart

616
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: is when we reach a level where you can buy

617
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: your appliance from any of these vendors that are making

618
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: these kind of devices and they all talk to each other.

619
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: To me, that's what is smart, at least from a

620
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: consumer standpoint. Also, I don't know that there are that

621
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: many people who could buy into an ecosystem and change

622
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: all of their appliances at the same time. That's expensive.

623
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about refrigerator, washer, dryer, stove, TV.

624
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean, TV is part of the too smartphone, but possibly, um,

625
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: it's getting into that process. We're kind of like, that's

626
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: expensive and and my worry is you would start to

627
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: adopt something and then what happens if three years down

628
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the road, when you're about to upgrade the rest of

629
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: your stuff, the company no longer exists. That's a problem.

630
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: So there's some there's still some downsides to smart appliances. Um,

631
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see where this goes. I

632
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: hope we get to a more open, uh standard for

633
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: communication between devices, you know. I mean, I'm excited about

634
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: the concept of being able to use your smartphone to

635
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: to control anything in your house, from your television to

636
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: your washer, dryer, to your light system to etcetera. Just

637
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: just having a triquarter, you know, a glitch. For those

638
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: of you who watched reboot, all ten of you out there, high,

639
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: I love you, um and uh yeah, no I I

640
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that too. And it's uh, I

641
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Speaker 1: have some stuff that I can control with my smartphone

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Speaker 1: Will there be a happy ending? Or did Jonathan get

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Speaker 1: that's not that's not a mystery. Okay, Well, anyway, if

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