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Speaker 1: out podcast. Kind of a somber night. Uh. I flipped

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Speaker 1: no and I speak for all of us, we have

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Speaker 1: I miss it. Uh and tonight sucked. Just in Uh.

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Speaker 1: But you know, as someone that puts together a podcast,

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Speaker 1: We've had excellent matchups the majority of the season. Uh

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Speaker 1: And you know, people are like, I wonder what Belichick's

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Speaker 1: probably preaching the choir here. He's a stone cold killer

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Speaker 1: an eleven hundre yard rusher. They look awesome. The pressure

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Speaker 1: are you one of those people that thinks it's okay

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Speaker 1: is the number one scoring defense. Uh in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers are clearly humming. Melvin Gordon is supposed to

427
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: come back. Uh. You know the latest on Keenan Allen.

428
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: It's they've proven they can get by even if Keenan

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Speaker 1: Allen plays, if he plays in this game and he's

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Speaker 1: not a percent, which he won't be. Uh. Mike Williams

431
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: is balling that they'll be fine. They can make do

432
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates just functions. I think the Chargers win that game,

433
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: and then I think it's crazy I have I'm I'm

434
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: rooting for the Chiefs. I would love to see both

435
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Speaker 1: these two teams going to Week seventeen with both juice

436
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: on the game. But I don't know, Like I just know,

437
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: having watched Seattle so closely over this run, how hard

438
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: it is to go up there and win. And Colin

439
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: has been pretty hard on Mahomes this week because I

440
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: I've watched basically every snapp he's had this season. I mean,

441
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of down moments before the most part,

442
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: I think he's been brilliant. I mean, they or defense

443
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: is atrocious, absolutely terrible. That they might have the worst

444
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: defensive backs in the NFL. They can't cover anyone. Their

445
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Bob Sutton. I know he was good. I

446
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: know Andy likes him, but god damn, I mean, he

447
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: feels just out of it a little bit. I would

448
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: imagine no inside information on this. He retires or and

449
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: he's not really a fire guy, but I'd be shocked

450
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: if he's back next year. It feels like they'll go

451
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: get some new blood or just someone new. But it's

452
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: a hard place to win. I mean, Mahomes. He's experienced

453
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Speaker 1: some incredibly loud games this year right at home. Just

454
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: I mean, that place rocks, but they don't scream when

455
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Speaker 1: you're on the field. He is never ever gonna have

456
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: heard anything quite like would he hear Sunday night at

457
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: place is going to be loud people. It's it's the

458
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Speaker 1: holiday weekend technically, because Christmas eves on Monday and then

459
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Speaker 1: Christmas is on Tuesday. So if if you were a

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Speaker 1: you Seattle Seahawk fan, you're going to the game, you

461
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: don't care about like getting wasted. I mean you don't

462
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: have to work the next day, more like you might

463
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Speaker 1: get the next two days off. Well clearly because you're

464
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: getting Christmas off. You're probably just taking Monday off to

465
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: you're getting lit. That place is gonna be bananas. Like

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere for the Charger game is gonna suck on Saturday.

467
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: It's like Person Stadium. They don't have really any fans.

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Speaker 1: The atmosphere Sunday night in Seattle is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: complete opposite. Everyone will just be plastered. I was talking

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Speaker 1: to someone in the NFL they think, and I kind

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Speaker 1: of agree, uh, that they pipe noise. I mean it's

472
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Speaker 1: gonna be so loud you do not even be able

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Speaker 1: to think. I think it's gonna be very, very difficult.

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Speaker 1: If Patrick Mahomes wins that game. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: he wins at three to nothing, which we know they

476
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Speaker 1: wan't win at three to nothing. Their defense isn't good enough.

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Speaker 1: I'd give them, I'd give them the m v P

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. If you go up to Seattle

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Speaker 1: and win that game, Uh, that would be an incredible achievement.

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Speaker 1: But I can't wait. And I think the NFL should

481
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: just should be extremely happy right now because the league

482
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Speaker 1: is humming a lot of the controversy and the stuff

483
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: the fluffs out and we just week after week just

484
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: big time game after big time game with the best players.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for Saturday night, and then I surely

486
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Speaker 1: can't wait for Sunday. Okay, let's let's jump to the college,

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Speaker 1: the college football recruiting. Actually, uh, and let me stay this.

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Speaker 1: I've been on record from day one. I thought Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly and u c l A was a bad fit.

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Speaker 1: I first off, I don't think Chip Kelly is is

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Speaker 1: any longer elite, obviously at the pro level, but even

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Speaker 1: at the college level. I thought it was crazy that

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Speaker 1: the two heavy hitters for the u c l A program,

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Speaker 1: Casey Wasserman, who's kind of their billionaire uh donor, and

495
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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, you know, their most famous football alum. I mean,

496
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: did everything moved mountains to try tolign him up and

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Speaker 1: get Chip Kelly to run their program. I thought, God,

498
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Speaker 1: I I thought it was crazy. Uh. And listen, is

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Speaker 1: Chip a smart guy. I've always argued super smart guys

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Speaker 1: are not stubborn, They're open minded. And the one thing

501
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: with Chip is he's never really changed through the failures

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00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: of from Philly to the forty niners to what he

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00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: did this year with u c l A. But I

504
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: said here's the thing about u c l A. Unlike

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Speaker 1: in Oregon that already had a program that was running

506
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Speaker 1: at a high level and was easily recruiting a lot

507
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: of high level players when he took over. It's easier

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00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: to get into school at Oregon. One and two, they cheat,

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Speaker 1: Like guess what Chip got in trouble At u c

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00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: l A. They gave Willie Lyles a brown bag full

511
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: of cash to land them players and he threw his

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00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: recruiting guy under the bus for it. Chip has no

513
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: problem with cheating, and don't get me wrong, neither do I.

514
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: I cheat. Two, if I was a college coach, I

515
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: got no issue with it. It's a lot more difficult

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Speaker 1: that U c l A. At U c l A,

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Speaker 1: you gotta do a couple of things. One is you

518
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: gotta hustle a little bit as a recruiter, you know,

519
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: because you're not even the sexiest team in your own town.

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00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: And it's just difficult to sell people on your program

521
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: because historically you're not that great of a football program.

522
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: But I will give Jim Moore credit on this, and

523
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: if you know me, I'm not a big Jim More guy.

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00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: He did really work at recruiting there was a famous

525
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: story Kenny Clark, who's now on the Green Day packers

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Speaker 1: his dad. I don't know if he's still in prison,

527
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Speaker 1: but when he was coming out of high school, like

528
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Speaker 1: his senior year, or while he was in high school

529
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Speaker 1: that I was in prison. So they sent Jim Mora

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Speaker 1: and I think the coordinator went and they didn't have

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Speaker 1: to do this, but they really wanted him to come

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Speaker 1: to school. They went to prison to meet with the

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Speaker 1: dad just to get his blessing. They wanted him to

534
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Speaker 1: come to the program and say one thing for Jim

535
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: more he couldn't coach, he could really recruit, like they

536
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: had some top fifteen recruiting class. This well, someone forwarded

537
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: me this. In the last twenty four hours, ESPN broke

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00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: down every pack twelfth school under U c l A.

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00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: It said class unranked. You read that right? You see here.

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00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read verbatim what this what The little blurb says.

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Speaker 1: U c l A is currently unranked. After the first

542
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: day of early signing period, ESPN's class rankings go down

543
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: to number fifty and U c l A is outside

544
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Speaker 1: the top fifty in the talent rich state of California.

545
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: It is remarkable for the Bruins to have an unranked

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Speaker 1: class this late in the process. Chip Kelly and his

547
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: staff wanted to take a slow, methodical approach to recruiting,

548
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: but with the early signing period, that strategy might not work. Listen,

549
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: chip Kelly despised recruiting it Oregon, but he had a

550
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Speaker 1: couple of things going for him. Again, easy to get

551
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Speaker 1: into school, the school somewhat recruited itself, and they were

552
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Speaker 1: really rolling at U c l A. You have to hustle,

553
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: and I get ans Evil texts me that appro chip Kelly, Well,

554
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: he's looking for more blue collar, high level guys. He's

555
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: not really that into the five star guys. He kind

556
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: of wants to do what Chris Peterson did back in

557
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: the day at Boise and is doing a little at Washington,

558
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: which I get. The difference I would say is Chris

559
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: Peterson works at recruiting. Chip Kelly again hates it. And

560
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: the other thing in his division One he's never beaten

561
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: out USC on recruits. They just are not going to

562
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: do that. And that school down at Tempe Arizona. Her

563
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: Edwards Google how he's doing in recruiting. He's killing it.

564
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Why he's putting an effort one because the thing he

565
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: hangs his hat on is his personality, which is the

566
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: last thing Chip hangs hat on. Personality is a dud.

567
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks Chip Kelly, that knows him is a weird dude. Now,

568
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: he can fake it when the camera's on, but he

569
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: can't fake it when the camera's off. And guess where

570
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: the camera's off all year along with recruiting. It's why

571
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: he's getting crushed. That's why he's getting destroyed. You know

572
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: he's a good recruiter, Lincoln Riley, Nick Saban, Dabbo Sweeney,

573
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. You know who makes a big effort at it,

574
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, Like you have to work at recruiting, even

575
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: when you're at the top schools, even when you're cheating

576
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: your ass off, Kirby smart. Chip Kelly ain't working at it,

577
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: and he's getting crushed. He's getting destroyed. Now, college is

578
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: a little bit about both, Like Alabama would not be

579
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: Alabama without Nick Saban. So the scheme doesn't matter. So

580
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: if Chips an elite coach, he'll win some games. But again,

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00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a late coach anymore. And one

582
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: thing I know now, he's not getting the top players.

583
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: So what's gonna be his point of difference in the conference?

584
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Because I know this about herm Edwards. He's not some

585
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: elite x's nose coach, but he's landing dudes. So at

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you just got dudes,

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00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: you can get seven eight wins. Like Chip, Kelly struggled

588
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: to win three games this year. So if he's not

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00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: adding to the talent pool of the program, because when

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00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: he inherited the program, even the program was down, Jim

591
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Mora had been recruiting. Well, I think the country and

592
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: you l a like don't quite realize how big of

593
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: a train wreck potential. And you heard it here. First,

594
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: I hated the higher now and the more I read

595
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: into it, the more I see which I envisioned happening,

596
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: even though it's technically worse. I didn't realize. My theory

597
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: on Gruden and Chip from the beginning was both those

598
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: two guys with failure got generationally wealthy. Mike coach Read

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00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: or Mike Tomlin. They've made you know, fifty sixty eight

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00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: million dollars whatever the last you know, eight nine years.

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Speaker 1: Both of them had to win to get that money.

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00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Both of them had to continue to win, to get

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's made a ton of money, you know, all

604
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's done for the last like win, you know,

605
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: and they've they've had to keep their knife sharp. Jon

606
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Gruden went to the TV booth and just had people

607
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: basically blowing them every year trying to get him to

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00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: come coach and come take their job for an astronomical

609
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: amount of money. Jeffrey Lury told Chip Kelly to package

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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: it and get out of the building. Two weeks later,

611
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Jed York hired him. Eight months later, Jed York said

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00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: get out of here. Less than a year later, Casey

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00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: Wasserman and Troy Akman were on their knees begging him

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00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: to come. What Chip Kelly lives in this false little

615
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: world of thinking he's really good, even though all he's

616
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: done lately is fail like literally for the last like

617
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: four years. Failure, failure, failure when you fail, like if

618
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: you fail and no one helps you out after failure,

619
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: like you can't get a job right away, you don't

620
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: have a choice but to be introspective, like you have

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Speaker 1: to change. Why would Chip Kelly everything he has to change?

622
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: People just kept offering thirty forty million dollars and now

623
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: he's not clearly he's just not working that hard like

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00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: that's I mean, we have the facts. He doesn't recruit

625
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: the top guy. He can't land him. He cannot land him.

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Speaker 1: And I'd say this, and I've said it from the beginning.

627
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: You see how they brought this upon themselves. Okay, let's uh,

628
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: let's dive into the Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff

629
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: is my Instagram handle. You DM me and I will

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00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: read your question on the show. So let's read my

631
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: first one. Hey, John, ask your question a few weeks

632
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: ago and never heard it on the show. My bad,

633
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: But I have another question and I'm dying to hear

634
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: professional that's me answer it, So can you please answer that?

635
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: I will. My question is this, Brady has taken numerous

636
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: pay cuts for years as a Patriot, so is Gronkowski,

637
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: as did Amundola and surely many others. With the fact

638
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: that the Pats aren't paying Brady over top superstar money,

639
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: where the hell is all the top notch talent he

640
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: should be surrounded by. I feel like, despite not being

641
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: paid exceptional money, Tom is surrounded by lackluster talent, and

642
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: it makes me question where the hell of the past

643
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: money is going? Can you please please provide some insight?

644
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: Appreciate you? Uh, answering pretty good question. I would say this,

645
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: They've just always kind of been cheap. I mean, they've

646
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: never had a high priced team, and it's the tone

647
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: has always been set by Tom somewhat doing them a favor.

648
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: And anyone in the league will tell you they kind

649
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: of have other players by the balls because they simply say, well,

650
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: Tom's making this, this is what you make. And I

651
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: also think it did give him some wiggle room. They

652
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: signed Gilmore two years ago, do a lot of money?

653
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: You know, was he worth it? That? That can be

654
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: argued For the most part, I will say this one.

655
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: Usually in free agency there aren't that many sweet players

656
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: to buy, so in fairness to Belichick, there just aren't

657
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: that many good players to buy. The one thing I

658
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: wish he would do more and he did this, I

659
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 1: guess the year when they got Brandon Cooks. I don't

660
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: see why over the last several years he hasn't traded

661
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: more draft picks for players when he has the cap room. Uh.

662
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: And I wonder if he kind of gets a little

663
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: aggressive this offseason and does that. I would imagine he does.

664
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Speaker 1: But I as I defended and said earlier on the podcast,

665
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: this was a perfect storm. He drafted his starting left

666
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: tack when he drafted his starting running back and one

667
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: towards Achilles and the other just got banged up. Uh.

668
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: The Josh Gordon moves showed he was a little desperate

669
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: and Gronk got old overnight. You know, Gronk was good

670
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: last year and right now he's a shell of himself.

671
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: Feels like it's over. So that that happens in football.

672
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: That's why Belichick would probably tell you, and he did

673
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: tell us he tried to trade Gronk last year, tried

674
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: to get rid of them, and that's when Gronk says,

675
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll retire. I'm not playing for the Lions now with

676
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: the Lions, would that have been a first round pick?

677
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: What if Belichick would have three first round picks. You know,

678
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: Gronk used his leverage and rightfully so, but Belichick wanted

679
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: to move on and he kind of got stuck in Gronk.

680
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of nothing that what top five

681
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: famous players in the league non quarterback has Robert Craftsy

682
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: here and he is Gronk. He's still a good player,

683
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: but he's nowhere near what he wants was, And it's

684
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: kind of killing them that they're an offense that kind

685
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: of went as Gronk went. Obviously they go as Brady goes.

686
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: But when Gronk was humming that they were unstoppable, because

687
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: that would mean usually Gronk was humming, Edelman was solid.

688
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Edelman is not the same with his a c L injury.

689
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: They don't really have an outside receiver. I mean two

690
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: years ago when they had Brandon Cooks and he was

691
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: playing well, Gronk was healthy, Edelman was help. I mean

692
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: they were good. I guess Edelman got hurt in training

693
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: camp actually, so in theory, that offense should have been good, right,

694
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, James White, Edelman, Hogan, Gronk, Brandon Cooks. Like

695
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: on paper, that was an e lead offense. That was

696
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: an incredibly set up team. I hope Jimmy Garoppolo was

697
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: a backup. So it's it's low hanging fruit right now

698
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: to pick on Belichick. This this happens. They're just having

699
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: an off year. I think they'll be fine. Line, you know.

700
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: I I love Sony Michelle coming out of college. I

701
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a good player. He just had

702
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: a rough rookie year. Hey, John, big fan of the podcast.

703
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have two All pros out and a third

704
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: playing with a knee brace on his elbow. Tarron Smith's

705
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: elbow is massive. Uh you know what's crazy? Really quick

706
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: on Tyron Smith? He was He's your classic, like Julio

707
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Jones of left Tackles. Five star recruit, goes to college

708
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: for three years, top ten pick, borderline hall of famer.

709
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Now he's battled some injuries or he would have been

710
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. But it's just Tyrone Smith was

711
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: like a blue chipper at like twelve years old, you know,

712
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean a legit. I think he was a five

713
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: star recruit at like a sophomore in high school. So

714
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: just absolute monster. Uh Okay. Is their merit to accepting

715
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: the four seed and sitting everyone in the last few games,

716
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: just like swallowing the nine and seven record or whatever

717
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: it is to have their own line. It's hell as possible.

718
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: It's a good question. The only problem is right now

719
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: is the Eagles are kind of feisty. Now. I think

720
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: they both play at one o'clock. I think one thousand

721
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: percent if I think that if Washington loses this weekend,

722
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys will cleanse the division. I think you

723
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: play everyone this week, try to get to nine and six,

724
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: and then if you have the four seed and it's

725
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: set you one million percent, just rest everyone. You rest everyone,

726
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: and you get ready for the playoff game, because we've

727
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: seen if the Cowboys are arrested, if they you know,

728
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: come into a game focused and ready to roll. I've

729
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: been saying this for weeks. I didn't really overreact that

730
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: much to the Colts game. Like the Cowboys had won

731
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of games straight. They had just come off

732
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: to crazy emotional games, right, really three emotional games. The

733
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: Thursday Night game, on Thursday Day game on Thanksgiving when

734
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: a Mari went nuts and they kind of got it rolling.

735
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: Then seven days later they beat the Saints when they

736
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: were heavy underdogs. Then you know, ten days later they

737
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: beat their division rivals and kind of unofficially win the

738
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: division that night. Like those were just three incredible stretch

739
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: of games for the Dallas Cowboys. Jason Garrett kind of

740
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: got humming again. And you know, I still think they're

741
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: high end like most people. I mean, DA's got his flaws,

742
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: but when he just managing the game. When Zeke's humming,

743
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: when their defense and the pass rushes flying and a

744
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Mari He's making plays, the team is damn good. Hey, John,

745
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: big fan, me too. Do you think Joe Mixing can

746
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: develop into a top five running back next season? I

747
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: have him on a fantasy team for like two seasons

748
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: and he's been awesome. I do think that top five

749
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: running back. You know, Zeke's in the peak of his powers.

750
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's a baller, Todd Gurley is still going, Levian

751
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: will be back. I'm probably leaving out someone. You know,

752
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is still a bad had ass. I guess

753
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Kareem haunts out of the league right now. Yeah, I

754
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: mean I I definitely think he has the talent. UH

755
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: loved him in Oklahoma. He actually this year when they

756
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: were would the Bengals start like five and one or

757
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: six and two or whenever they whenever they started pretty

758
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: well that they were he was a stud And I

759
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: had a buddy text me probably like week five or

760
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: week six. He's like bro buddy in the league, Like

761
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: you got a peek at Joe Mixon. He is a baller,

762
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: And I just remember typing his name into Twitter and

763
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: they had his highlights from that game. It was like

764
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: Week three and it was just like, oh my god,

765
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: this guy is legit. His problem is gonna be is

766
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: who's his quarterback? You know, if it's Andy Dalton again?

767
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: Are they going to roll it back? Is there any

768
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: threat of passing? I would say, and this might sound

769
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: a little crazy, why don't the Bengals just hit reset?

770
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, trade AJ Green? Could they get a first

771
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: round pick for him? I got, I got the answer

772
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: for you. Yes they could. Hell, I might trade a

773
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: first round pick for him if if I was a

774
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: general manager. Uh. You know. Their defense is they have

775
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: a new coach. You know, he definitely has the talent

776
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: because he can run inside, he can run outside, He's

777
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: really fast and catch the football. He does possess the

778
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: ability to be be a top five running back. The

779
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: problem is probably gonna have a new coach, probably a

780
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: new quarterback. So does that mean a new scheme? Uh,

781
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: it's just not an ideal situation. Hey, John, huge Ravens fan,

782
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: do you think John Harbod needs to make the playoffs

783
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: to keep his job? Uh? Did I already answer this

784
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: question last week? I if I think I kind of did.

785
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: But this San Diego game on, you know, I guess

786
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: the Saturday night game against the Chargers kind of fighting

787
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: for John Harbaugh's career. You know, he wins that game,

788
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: they make it to the playoffs, and I said last week,

789
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Speaker 1: I don't think that would one guarantee him to come back,

790
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: but I do think he'd be in pretty good shape.

791
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: He made the playoffs in a year where the older

792
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: the owner kind of gave him the ultimatum that he

793
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: broke in this new quarterback, he probably roll it back

794
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: at least one more year and to see what he

795
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: could do with a full year with Lamar Jackson as

796
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. Because the one thing you would say,

797
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not the biggest Lamar Jackson fan, anyone knows that.

798
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: Listening to this as you go, well, if they kind

799
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: of added in some wrinkles to this offense, their defense

800
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: is unreal. Why couldn't they win that division next year?

801
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, Ben's who knows what Ben's gonna do. He

802
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: could retire at any moment. But if they make the playoffs,

803
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: the more I thought about it, I think, you know, Harbaugh,

804
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: John Harbor that is would come back. Why does everybody

805
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: doubt the Bears. They get a big win after win

806
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: after win, like three division wins, then they win the division.

807
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: Everybody is saying they still have their doubts and how

808
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: they're not a real team. I understand they had some

809
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: bad losses that they did the Miami losses bad to

810
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Ostwiler and uh but losses. But the losses are the

811
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: Week one loss, a loss in the hot Miami and

812
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: the loss without Khalil Mack and Robiski. I can see

813
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: them making an impact in the playoffs, but you see

814
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: them winning any playoff games. Well, let's assume the Saints

815
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: get the one seed, and if the Saints beat the Steelers,

816
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: they get the one seed. Let's give the Rams the

817
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: benefit of doubt and say the Rams win these last

818
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: two games they do play Arizona and in San Francisco,

819
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: they get the two seed. Let's say the Bears get

820
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: the three seed. Then you got Dallas the fourth seed.

821
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: Let's give Seattle the five seed, and let's give Minnesota

822
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: the sixth seed. Minnesota is a difficult six seed, and

823
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: I do think they would have the capability of beating

824
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: the Bears. But just say this out loud. Could Kirk

825
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: Cousins go on the road and win a game against

826
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: Chicago against that defense. My reaction is no, But that team,

827
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: if they played well, they ran the ball, and the

828
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings defense played well, they could win that game.

829
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: I think, you know, depending on the matchups. If Brady's

830
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: in the first round, I would imagine that would be

831
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: the Saturday night game. But Minnesota Chicago, if that is

832
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: a first round playoff game, that is an incredible first

833
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: round playoff game. I think the Bears would be favored.

834
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: If I had to guess, you know, maybe three and

835
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: a half points. It's not like gonna be a six

836
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: or seven points, and it might be a little maybe

837
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: four points max. But you know, they played each other

838
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: last week of the season. More than likely the Bears,

839
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: you know what we It's hard for me to say

840
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: right now. They might not have anything on the line

841
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: that game, but you could sign me up for that game.

842
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: I would give the Bears about a seventy chance of

843
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: beating Minnesota UH in Week one or I mean in

844
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, division round of the playoffs, the wild card

845
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. Excuse me, question for the pod,

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Speaker 1: who was on your list for the next great NFL

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Speaker 1: coaching hires Vance Joseph seemingly out at Denver. Wondered, who

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Speaker 1: are your top candidates would be to replace him? Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. Here's what you have to know

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Speaker 1: about Denver. John Elway is in charge. He answers to

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Speaker 1: nobody except John Elway. He is going to want another

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Speaker 1: advanced Joseph type coach. I would guess because who are

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Speaker 1: the coaches, Like, would Mike McCarthy take that job? Even

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Speaker 1: though I think Mike McCarthy would be a good coach

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Speaker 1: for John Elway. John Elway needs Like it's pretty clear

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Speaker 1: John Elway is not great at hiring coaches. He he

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Speaker 1: chose Vance Joseph over Kyle Shanahan. Say that out loud,

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Speaker 1: his his coaching hire last year. I mean, yeah, Vance Joseph.

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Speaker 1: He had to sleep on week seventeen to keep him.

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Speaker 1: Thought about firing him, Like, John, the moment you do that,

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Speaker 1: it's clear it's not gonna work. Think about that. You

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Speaker 1: had to think year one, if this guy was the coach,

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Speaker 1: no shot he was gonna get fired. You two, I

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Speaker 1: mean you knew it then, so I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not a great crop for coaches, Like would Matt Campbell,

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Speaker 1: the guy that Iowa State take the job. Would a

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Speaker 1: college coach that had a good job leave to go

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Speaker 1: work for John Elway? Probably not. You know, who are

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Speaker 1: the great coordinators? He does have a history. Jim Bob

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Speaker 1: Cooder worked at Denver when Peyton was there. Now it

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Speaker 1: hasn't gone well in Detroit. I'm just throwing out a

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Speaker 1: name that you know that John could kind of boss around,

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Speaker 1: you know, That's what Vance Joseph just a puppet does

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Speaker 1: whatever John Elway wants. So I I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a guy that usually has answers. I have no

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Speaker 1: clue John Elway would hire because he interviewed Vance Joseph,

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Speaker 1: and he interviewed Kyle Shanahan and he chose Vance Joseph.

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Speaker 1: Say that out loud, like there's just the reason he

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Speaker 1: hired Gary Kubiak, that was his boy. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was an easy higher. He knew him, like Vance Joseph

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Speaker 1: was somewhat of a challenging higher. He kind of went

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Speaker 1: with this young, sexy name in a back hired like

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Speaker 1: do you know what? It turns out John Elway might

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Speaker 1: not know what he's looking for. I got news for it.

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Speaker 1: Most a lot of people don't. It's hiring coaches are

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Speaker 1: hard just because John Elway was a great player. I

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Speaker 1: actually think he's a solid general manager. I mean's rookie

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Speaker 1: class this year has been exceptional. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's got a great feel for a coach, like is

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Speaker 1: he cool with the coach coming in there and just

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Speaker 1: blasting some of his players or does you know, because

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Speaker 1: now the entire rosters his does he want you to

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Speaker 1: tell him what he wants to hear? So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, I have no clue who John Elways gonna

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Speaker 1: be higher would hire, but I do think it would.

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Speaker 1: It's easily the moment he fires Van's Joseph, It's going

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Speaker 1: to be one of the more fascinating hires of the

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Speaker 1: off season. Uh. Not quite sure on the Christmas schedule yet.

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Speaker 1: Probably do a podcast on Monday, uh, and then another

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Speaker 1: one on Friday. May record at Sunday night after the games,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll do another one on later in the week.

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Speaker 1: So we'll keep coming, and I appreciate everyone listening, and

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Speaker 1: I'll see you next week. I guess I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you before Christmas. But we enjoy the games and have

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Speaker 1: a good weekend. M