1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: border and families will be protected. 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the book. 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: The book. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: So you published a book What Mommy Never Told You? So? 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: What's the meaning behind that title and what's inside the book? Yeah? 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 4: So this book took twelve years to write, I wrote. 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 5: I finished it maybe three and a half years ago, 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 5: but it took twelve years to write because I, for 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 5: a very long time felt like my story hadn't arct 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 5: so I didn't have that moment where it was like, oh, 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 5: things got tough, and then she wrote off in the sunset, 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 5: here's a book to talk about it, right, And so 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 5: I thought that's what I needed in order to create 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 5: this body of work. But what I realized is people 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: have constantly sat down to have this conversation that we're 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: having right now, like what did you How did you 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: go from East New York Brooklyn to working and doing 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 5: some of the things that you've done and worked in 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 5: And I was constantly telling the story and I said, 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 5: you know what, I need to put pen to paper 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 5: and manuscript my journey. But one of the things that 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 5: came out of it, and why I titled it the 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: way that I did, is I realized that I'm first 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 5: generation for so many things in my life. I was 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 5: the first to graduate from college in my family. I 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 5: was the first to go to Europe in my family. 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 5: I was the first to buy a home in my family. 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 5: And what I was realizing is there's some things that 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 5: my parents just they cannot teach me. You know, as 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 5: a woman of color, I'm coming from a space of 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: I won't say lack, but I had I had a 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: late start, just coming from East New York and where 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 5: I've come from, we weren't and we didn't inherit the 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: knowledge that some of our contemporaries and counterparts perhaps are 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 5: getting from their families and their grandfathers and their you know, 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 5: those those sorts of experiences. And while my mother did 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 5: teach me a ton, there were just a lot of 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: lessons that I had to learn on my own. And 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 5: this book takes you through the manuscript of my life 55 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 5: and the lessons that I learned along the way. So 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: each chapter has at the end the Pittman's Rules, and 57 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 5: they're like the ten to twenty things that I've learned 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 5: about that specific topic, and it's everything from career and finance, 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 5: to relationships, to self motivation. 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: To like one of the thing, give us one example 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: of what's in the book that you've learned. 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 6: Well, I have something that your mother never told you. 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: Some of the things that my mother never told me. 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 5: I mean, there are tons of examples, but really understanding 65 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: that you know, as a woman, it's important to have 66 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: male mentorship as much as it is to have female mentorship. 67 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 5: I always I was raised by really strong women and 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: I have a huge girl network. But when I moved 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: into my career, most of my mentors have been men. 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 5: So people like Keith Kling Scales, as I mentioned, Steve 71 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: Stout early on in my career, was an amazing mentor 72 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 5: that genuinely just wanted to pour into my professional talent, 73 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 5: help me grow as a professional. Sean Combe's amazing mentor, 74 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: you know, and not being unafraid to develop professional relationships 75 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 5: with men is important for women as they continue to 76 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: move through business. 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: What's your advice for women navigating male dominated industry? Which 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: almost every industry is male dominated. There's difficulties that come 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: with is you have to think about certain things that 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: men don't have to think about. How to dress right, 81 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: they're important, how to carry yourself in certain environments. I 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: had this conversation with a female, like, somebody invites you 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: to dinner, it's awkward, right, It could be out to 84 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: drinks can be awkward. What you wear it could be awkward, flirting. 85 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: A variety of different things that you have to kind 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: of navigate through the workplace that there's really no set 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: template or blueprint for it. And like I said, men 88 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that, but women do. And 89 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: it's like you're probably just one woman or two women 90 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: and there's ten men. Right, So that's something that people 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: don't really consider, but it's an issue. I've seen it absolutely. 92 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: So what's your advice for that? 93 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: That is a great question. 94 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: There's a there's a nuance to the level set that 95 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 5: young women need to learn how to initiate very early on. 96 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: I think men do. 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: It sometimes when when men sort of outfit in the 98 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 5: room and you set your position in a room full 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: of men. 100 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: You guys know what I'm talking about. 101 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: You come into a room with ten dudes, You're going 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 5: to posture in a certain way so that your ranking 103 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 5: is governed accordingly, according right. 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: Right, So the same thing. And I know this from 105 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: being trained by men. 106 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: Right. I was blessed to be trained by men throughout 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 5: my career. And so there's a way of being as 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: a woman to position yourself as a person of power, 109 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: a person of respect, no nonsense, but still approachable. And 110 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: that has worked for me up unto a point until 111 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: I got to a sort of apex point in my career. 112 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: Being very dominant in that way was powerful, but at 113 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: a certain point it worked against me and I had 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: to start seeking out female mentorship at the executive level 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: because I had to bring back the softness. 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: Because it was almost like I was competing with the men. 117 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, exterior was too rough. 118 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: It's too rough, and so I had to come into 119 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: this balance of oh no, no, no, you see me. 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: You see I'm grounded. You respect me. But this is 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: not an alpha contest. 122 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, see the alpha thing, don't. I don't agree with 123 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: the alpha thing. I've never I don't like to consider 124 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: myself an alpha male. I'm just a male. 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: So I think there's two ways that I've witnessed, like 127 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: people at the highest level conduct themselves. One in that 128 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: manner which is like very loud and kind of obnoxious. 129 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: But you know that this person is level of stature 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: because it's like a mob boss, right, like Johnny Gotty. 131 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: Like it's like when he walks in the room, like 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: everybody kind of like fears on more has some level 133 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: of respect for him. So they could be extremely loud 134 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 3: or you could be extremely quiet. Yeah, like this guy Jay. 135 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: But he's still incredibly alpha. 136 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying, but just his demeanor, yea, 137 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: even more of an introvert quiet. I see that a 138 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: lot with I see that actually more often, especially like 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: the higher higher like billionaires like them. They're usually very 140 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: secluded and nonchalant, garden quiet. 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 5: But let's make a distinction though, because that doesn't so 142 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 5: there's a few things around alpha. I literally mean in 143 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: the canine sense of alpha, right, So from an animalistic standpoint, 144 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 5: when a pack of dogs come together, there's a ranking 145 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 5: order that naturally happens, right, So I didn't mean it 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 5: in the. 147 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: Alpha I mean, And it's like. 148 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: But then also, alphas are usually not loud in real life. 149 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: But I think that term alpha is just confusing because 150 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: it's like I think, like, if that's really like I 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: love Dan, he's actually a personal friend of mine, that's 152 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: his personality, but his way of being I think people 153 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: try to emulate that, like you know what I mean, 154 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: like and they try to like be loud and stern 155 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: and da da da. And I don't necessarily think that's 156 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: a that's the most beneficial way to communicate with people, absolutely, 157 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: but I see a lot of people that they think 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: that that way of acting on that way of communicating, 159 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 3: asserts themselves as the alpha and asserts themselves as the head. 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: But I think that that's not so. I don't know. 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 3: I just feel like the term. 162 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: Alpha loudness does not equal power. 163 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: So what does alpha equate. 164 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: To alpha is? 165 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 5: It's an anchoring, it's a it's a knowing, it's an 166 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: assuredness in your power to affect a situation. 167 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: That's what alpha is. 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Under President Trump, America's laws, 222 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: border and families. 223 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: Will be protected sponsored by the United States Department of 224 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: Homeland Security TOP And. 225 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 6: You brought up the word apex of your career, height 226 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 6: of your career. When I hear you speak, I can 227 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 6: feel your energy. I feel like you're still in it. 228 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 6: So I'm questioning, how are you seeing where you're at presently? 229 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 6: Are you where you want to be? There's some more 230 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 6: things that you need to check out because I feel 231 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 6: like the apex hasn't hit yet. 232 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 5: I agree it hasn't, but I am ascending, right, and 233 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 5: so I like to believe you know, you hit that 234 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 5: that peak, and you try to ride that peak as 235 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 5: long as you can and maybe in my plateau a 236 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: little bit, and then you hope to hit another peak. 237 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 4: So that's how I think about apex. 238 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: And I do think though, that there is a stage 239 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 5: in your career. There are stages in your finances right 240 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: where you've arrived, and then how do you elevate and 241 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: take it to the next level? Right, so you can 242 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: become a millionaire. That's great, but then you can become 243 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 5: one hundred millionaire and that's really great. Then you could 244 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: become a billionaire and now like that's something else. Right, 245 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 5: So those are all APEX moments within our lives. And 246 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: so when I say I hit that apex peak, it's 247 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 5: like if I'm in a c suite conversation, that's a 248 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 5: different conversation than being a manager or a director, and 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 5: how people receive us differently. 250 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 6: So when you're saying apex, you can have a. 251 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Few of them. 252 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 4: A few of them, I hope too, and I hope 253 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: you guys do as well. 254 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: So you said something about relationships. I'm interested to hear 255 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: this because I used to be a financial advisor. Before 256 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: I did this. When I was a financial advisor, seventy 257 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: percent of my clients were women, Black women. And I 258 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: learned something that there's a lot of black women that 259 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: make a lot of money, like five thousand, four hundred 260 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year. They're like corporate diversity officers that 261 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: may SE's and different things in the nature. And then 262 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 3: in their mid thirties and they're single and they've never 263 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: had children. And I noticed that. I started to see 264 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: a pattern, and I started to realize that this is 265 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: my philosophy. There wasn't an equal counterpart a lot right, 266 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: because it's like their counterpart, their age wasn't making as 267 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: much money, wasn't at that level of corporate. It might 268 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: have been a good dude, but he's you know, it's 269 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: a delivery man, right or the person that is at 270 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: that level, it is it ready going. It's a righty 271 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: taken he's already married and has children. So from a 272 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: relationship standpoint, I started to see that it was difficult 273 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: for I'm. 274 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: So sorry because sorry, my alarm go ahead. 275 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: So relationship standpoint, I started to see that it was 276 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: difficult a lot of times for black women that was 277 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: rising up that corporate ladder to get into a relationship 278 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: or to So I don't know what your segment in 279 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: the book about relationships is, but have you seen that 280 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: and what's your thoughts on that. 281 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 5: I absolutely have seen that. But I think that there's 282 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: so nuanced. So there's a couple of things that go 283 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 5: into that. I think top line looking at it, Yes, 284 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 5: there's not an equal counterpart at every step for a 285 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: lot of these women at a certain age. 286 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: Because men can go down to right like men, you 287 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: can be forty years old and date the twenty eight 288 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: year old and nobody says anything. That's another thing that 289 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: kind of it's hard for a forty year old woman 290 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: to find the twenty eight year old man. 291 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 5: That she wants to be with, right that because women 292 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: like to be able to learn from their men and 293 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: have leadership within their relationship. Traditionally, not all women and 294 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 5: so oftentimes men that are younger don't necessarily we have 295 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 5: those experiences. Some women do, and they do well in 296 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: that space, but not not most. But I think it's 297 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: it's a combination of things. I think it's and you know, 298 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 5: so many people with me. For instance, I'm single, I 299 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 5: don't have children, and people ask me like what happened? 300 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: And I'm a heterosexual woman, right, and so it's like, well, 301 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 5: a couple of things happened, you know. I think first 302 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 5: and foremost, I always say I spent too much time 303 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 5: on the wrong relationships. 304 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: That is, I tell any young woman, get in and 305 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 4: get out. That's what JA get out. 306 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: If it works great, if it doesn't move on as 307 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: quickly as possible, right, learn a lesson, forgive and move on. 308 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: So I didn't necessarily do that as often as perhaps 309 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: I should have. But I also think, you know, being 310 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 5: creating a space to date and explore. Women that are 311 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 5: are driven in their careers tend to forget about how 312 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 5: intentional you need to be about I'm. 313 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: Glad you said that they don't have time. 314 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: You don't have time. They don't make time. 315 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 6: They don't make the time. 316 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: It don't make the time. 317 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 5: They it don't make it because it gets exhausting right 318 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 5: when you're when you're constantly coming up against the men 319 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: that may not be equally yoked. 320 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: There's a list of priorities. 321 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 6: Is that how we do we're prioritizing these things like 322 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 6: this is more important than this at this present time. 323 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 324 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: I had a friend that said to me, very very 325 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: very good friend. She said, you need to approach getting 326 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: married like finding your dream job the same way and 327 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 5: the same way you would go and find interviews and 328 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: have conversations. You need to find friends that have single friends. 329 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 5: You need to be in spaces where there are single 330 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 5: men because of the type of man that you want 331 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 5: to marry is very unique, so you're not going to 332 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 5: just bump into him at a supermarket. You've got to 333 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 5: be intentional. And I thought it was brilliant when she 334 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 5: said it. To me way too late, but she, you know, 335 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: obviously expressed it. I think the same thing happens in 336 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: some of the situations that you mentioned. 337 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: Going back to my financial advisor days, Remember this guy 338 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: was telling me, he told his daughter that, and he 339 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: was like, what are you doing to find a husband? 340 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: Like? 341 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: You can't just wing it. You got to actually treat 342 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 3: this thing like you are, like you said, like you're 343 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: trying to get a job, like you got to actually 344 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 3: have a set, planned, blueprint events that I'm going to 345 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: go to everything. 346 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 6: Well, because the places you're going to run into are 347 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 6: so limited at this point. This is the days where 348 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 6: I'm going to go to the library, or i might 349 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 6: go to the theater and I'm going to the art 350 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 6: gallery like it's like I'm in the club. 351 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: Is this why we potentially see a lot of interracial 352 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: couples at higher like the vice president different things to 353 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: that nation. 354 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: I think so. 355 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 5: I think so, you know, people tend to date within 356 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 5: their industry or dat and what they're most familiar with 357 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 5: and around, and you know, unfortunately, I think that is 358 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 5: the case. 359 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: And I think that there's a I'm gonna say something 360 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 4: a little contra controversial. 361 00:18:54,720 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 5: But I think that fundamentally, Black youth is not as 362 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 5: conditioned to marry automatically the way some other cultures are. Right, 363 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 5: that's other cultures effect. 364 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: Right, they know they have to get married. 365 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: They don't really have a choice. 366 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: There's no choice. You're going to get married. 367 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: It may not be today, fact it's going to be arranged, 368 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 5: or it's going to be arranged for you, and it 369 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 5: may not be today, it may not be in five years, 370 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 5: but you're going to get married. They also know to 371 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: be successful, particularly the men in those those culture cultures. 372 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 5: Thank you know that having a wife represents something way broader. 373 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: It represents responsibility, it represents anchoring. Like you think about 374 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 5: have we ever had a single president. We've had a 375 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: widowed president, but we've never had a single president ever. Right, 376 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: So there's there's little things that. 377 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: Go into societal norms. 378 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: Societal norms around being married that don't necessarily exist automatically 379 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 5: within our culture. So our young people don't know that 380 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: we have to get married then, not that we have to, 381 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 5: but that it would be beneficial for us to partner 382 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 5: up and do some stuff together in that way. Yeah, 383 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: I agree, So there's a t we're at a disadvantage 384 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: initially with the with the mindset, but then we're so 385 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 5: busy trying to do it by ourselves we forget to 386 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: reconnect with each other and do it together and find 387 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 5: someone to do it together with. 388 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 6: So and while we're thinking about that at the time, 389 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 6: it's passing every day every. 390 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 5: Day, and you're more set in your ways and your 391 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 5: your requirements get a little more intricate, and you. 392 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: Get more comfortable being by yourself, yes, which makes it 393 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: harder for you to be a relationship. 394 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 6: And then there's always helpsial media that can comfort you 395 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 6: when you're by yourself. 396 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 5: Four things Tender, Oh God, swipe less. 397 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 398 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. 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