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I'm like, that's the friend of 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: the show. 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: So all right, they put they put they put thirty 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: million on you. So what does this mean? Break this 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: down and layman term for the people to understand. You know, 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 2: how big money is really influencing elections. 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: No, absolutely, especially in congressional elections. So one quick point 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: of clarification, the election is not weeks away, it's actually 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: days away. So the first day of early voting is 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: this Saturday. So that's Saturday, June fifteenth, literally six days away, 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: and so we're treating the first day of early voting 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: as as election day. So please get out there and 50 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: vote everyone who's watching. So, when you run for office 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: at any level, you got to raise money to run 52 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: your campaign. So that money goes towards paying staff, it 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: goes towards getting flyers and palm cards, posters, banners, mailers 54 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: to people's homes, advertisement, it goes to a variety of things. 55 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: When you run for Congress, the most that someone can 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: donate to your campaign it's thirty three hundred dollars for 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: the primary and another thirty three hundred for the general 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: if you win the primary. But there are organizations that 59 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: work outside of your campaign that are called super packs 60 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: and cfors. Those c fours can raise an unlimited amount 61 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: of money. They do not have to publicly disclose who 62 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: gives them money, and then they can operate on the 63 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: campaign's behalf and or give that money to super packs, 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: which operate on the campaign's behalf. So in my race, 65 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: when you talk about that thirty million dollar number, most 66 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: of that is coming from the C four and the 67 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: superpack that is being spent on behalf of the person 68 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: who is running against me. That is not his campaign money. 69 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: His campaign money can be anywhere from like a couple 70 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: million dollars most likely, right, usually a couple million dollars, 71 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: and he spends that for flyers and mailers and ads. 72 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: But then if you have a C four or superpack 73 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: that is well endowed, they can spend money on his behalf, 74 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: which is what's happening in this race. Most of that 75 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: thirty million is happening from the superpack side of it. 76 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: And this is more money than they have ever spent 77 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: in their history. And I'm speaking specifically about the group 78 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 3: A PAC. 79 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: So, okay, so let's get let's get straight to the point. 80 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he said today though, so. 81 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: Well, Nate, So a pack, Yes, who is a pack? 82 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: For the audience, and why would a pack spend thirty 83 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: million allegedly, why would APEX spend thirty million dollars to 84 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: defeat Jamaal Bowman? 85 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: Yes, so APAC stands for and I want to get 86 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: this right. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, they are 87 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: one issue organization Israel. They support the State of Israel, 88 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: and their lobbying in Congress goes to ensure that Israel 89 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: continues to receive three point eight billion dollars a year 90 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: in military funding and whatever additional billions or money they 91 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: need for whatever it is that they want to do. 92 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: That's who APAC is. They are targeting me and spending 93 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 3: so much money against me because I called for a 94 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: permanent ceasefire in Gaza and because I'm calling out and 95 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 3: fighting to end the genocide and the famine that is 96 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: happening in Gaza. They are not used to members of 97 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Congress criticizing Israel or speaking up against APAK. Now that 98 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: they have members of Congress doing that, they are targeting 99 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: those members of Congress and targeting other people around the country. 100 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: So they don't just fund congressional races, they fund state races, 101 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 3: county races, local races, et cetera. They've been around for 102 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: sixty years advocating for Israel and Israel only, and they've 103 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: pledged to spend one hundred million dollars this election cycle. 104 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: But the majority of that going towards your boy, Congressman Bowmen. 105 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: Of what they're going to know, they're willingending you, which 106 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: is and I mean when we talk about wealth and 107 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: will have a conversation with that, I'm sure, But we 108 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: don't have super PACs. And that's something that we've had 109 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 4: plenty of conversations about even educating people on what they are, 110 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: how to form them, and how to figure out what 111 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: exactly they'll be for. Right, we need to know the 112 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: things that we want. 113 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: When you hear those type of numbers, thirty million, which 114 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: is a lot of money to be spending on the 115 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: capital on a local well, we could not a local election, 116 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: but a regional election, right, right, how do you combat that? 117 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: Is it? Hey? 118 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: I need to raise more. We have to become strategic 119 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: because I've seen their ads every morning. I see your 120 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: ads too, right, I love I love like when it's 121 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: like you're going back to the schools and education is part. 122 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: Of the campaign. How do you combat that? 123 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: Like, what's the strategy to run against somebody that seems 124 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: to have capital that's almost pretty extensive, I want to 125 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: say unlimited, but very extensive. 126 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, just to give you some more context, before 127 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: I answer your question. So they spent ten million on 128 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: ads within a four week period, just a couple of 129 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: weeks ago. That is more money than President Biden has 130 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: spent on broadcasts all year. So literally within a four 131 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: week period, they were trying to bombard people with the 132 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: message that they wanted to send out about my record, 133 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: which is complete misinformation and disinformation and propaganda, not accurate 134 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: at all. But that gives you an idea. Comparing it 135 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: to President's Biden overall spending for the year, it's not 136 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: even close, and so you can't compete with them dollar 137 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: for dollar. But what you can do is you can 138 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: have an incredible field operation and ground game that literally 139 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: goes door to door. And so for us, we spend 140 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: a lot of time and effort on our field operation. 141 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: We spend money on field to make sure we are 142 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: knocking doors in particular areas. But then we also have 143 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: an incredible volunteer army of at least that volunteers who 144 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: are making tens of thousands of calls and knocking tens 145 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: of thousands of doors every few days. And so that's 146 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: how you combat it. They got money, we got people. 147 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: This is the many versus the money. And most of 148 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: the district supports my policies as it relates to Gaza. 149 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: For example, they support the permanencies fire, They support you know, 150 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: me wanting to fight to bring that three point eight 151 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: billion dollars back here to help people with you know, 152 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: entrepreneurship opportunities, affordable housing, affordable childcare, fully funding schools, et cetera, 153 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: et cetera. Most of the American people are with us. 154 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: The challenge is they have all the money, and they 155 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: also have media infrastructure in place where they can, you know, 156 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: quickly pivot and weaponize something I said or did against 157 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: us as well, which is part of what they're doing 158 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: during this campaign. 159 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 5: With hindsight being twenty twenty, do you regret making some 160 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 5: of the statements that you did and maybe that could 161 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: have prevented the attack. Do you feel as if, no 162 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: matter what was stated, they were going to attack you 163 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 5: through media. 164 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and no, I don't regret it at all. I'm 165 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: not in Congress to be comfortable or to be quiet, 166 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: not in Congress to just go along and get along. 167 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: If I'm not there fighting for justice like racial justice, 168 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: economic justice, adjust foreign policy, then you know I'm not 169 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: supposed to be there. If I'm not there fighting for 170 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: those things. So no, I don't. I don't regret it 171 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: at all. And as a matter of fact, in my opinion, 172 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: this is exactly what we needed to be doing at 173 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: this time. This is an example of us carrying on 174 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 3: the legacy of our ancestors who fought and died for 175 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: everything from the end of slavery to the end of 176 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: Jim Crow to the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act. 177 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean, look at what happened during the sixties, with 178 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: so many martyrs, Doctor King, Malcolm X Mega Evers, and 179 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: so many others, you know, And so this is kind 180 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: of my responsibility, I think, as you know, not just 181 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: a black man in Congress, but a certain type of 182 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: black consciousness in Congress. You know, I'm supposed to be 183 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: doing this, and I actually take it as a badger 184 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: honor that they're spending more money than they ever spend 185 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: history to get me out of office. 186 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:23,359 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. Okay, So three points 187 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: eight billion, you said, goest Israel. 188 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: Three point eight billion a year plus plus let me 189 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: just add real quick before you asked your question. Plus whenever, 190 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: like whenever something occurs out of the ordinary. A pac 191 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: writes a bill for Congress to appropriate more money for Israel. 192 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: So during my first term we annually, no matter what, 193 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: if everything's quiet, calm, three point eight billions already earmarked. 194 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: But my first term, Hama sent rockets to attack Israel 195 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: and Israel had to use some of this I am 196 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: don't defense resources. And right after that, Apak wrote a 197 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: bill so that we could send an additional billion to 198 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: Israel on top of the three point eight billion. Right 199 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: now with the attacks happening in Gaza right now, we 200 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: just passed a bill of sending an additional fourteen billion 201 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: into Israel, almost like to help them re up their 202 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: military resources after this conflict, so that whenever they need it, 203 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: we got it. That's how it goes. 204 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 6: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 205 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 6: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from El Salvador 206 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 6: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 207 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 6: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. 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