1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. March is here. It is Friday. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Rejoice, Let's have some fun. Buck Sexton is now going 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: to have to start prepping for filling out his first 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: ever NCAA tournament bracket. We're going to have some fun 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: with you as we roll through the Friday edition of 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: the program. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Lots to hit there, and. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: We will also talk with Steven Miller, who will be 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: in charge of Donald Trump's border in the event that 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: Trump is elected president in twenty twenty four. Steven's always 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. We'll have a good discussion with him. 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Laura Trump will also be with us in the second 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: third hour of the program. There you go with guests. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Several things. We're tracking potential news coming out of Atlanta 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: with the Fanny Willis Nathan Wade situation. There, the text 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: messages from Nathan Wade's former law partner have now been released. 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: I think Megan Kelly had them first, but CNN I've 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: read about them a lot of different places, and there 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: now appears to be an awful, just mountain of evidence 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: of impropriety there. We'll see whether we get an official 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: judge ruling on those disqualifying motions in the Atlanta case also, 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: and I feel like we're going to be doing this 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: for the rest of twenty twenty four. There is still 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: legal machinations going on in South Florida. Judge Eileen Cannon, 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: that is the classified documents case, is having a hearing 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: potentially about when that case could be scheduled. The Trump 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: team has asked for that case to be after the 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election. Jack Smith, now having potentially lost 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: the ability to try the case in Washington, DC, is 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: I would say, panicking a little bit and now trying 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: to accelerate things in South Florida. 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens there. 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: But yesterday, after we went off the air Dueling Press 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: conferences Duel Press Availabilities two different individual interactions in Texas. 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Donald Trump both present there and buck 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: what stood out to me about watching these visits. 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: When it comes to visual medium that you can often 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: not even have to hear the words that are said, 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: and you will understand the message that is being conveyed. 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: I watched video of Biden trying to walk on a 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: trail somewhere in the vicinity of the border, alongside of 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: border patrol agents. Buck his arms didn't move with every step. 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: I felt like he might fall over. This guy is 46 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: not far removed from needing to be walking with a 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: walker where he's got his hands on both sides to 48 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: be able to hold himself up. 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: It just keeps getting worse. 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, That's what stood out to me the most was 51 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: just the optics of Biden trying to do something simple, 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: go along a trail. 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: I mean, we played yesterday, right, the situation of Karine 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: Jean Pierre telling everybody that Biden passes a cognitive test 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: every day, right, that he's he's. 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: Passive with flying callus. 57 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: We have played Gavin Newsom saying that, of course Biden's 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: age is an asset because look at how astonishingly. 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Well his presidency is going. 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: The level of lying and the the just the brazenness, 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: the mendaciousness of these Democrats is only going to increase 62 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: unless I know, people think maybe there's some other final 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: break the glass plan. But understand, if there is a 64 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: break the glass plan, this is one. 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Part of it. 66 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: Clay meeting a third person, not not Biden, not came 67 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: with someone else, it would be, in the eyes of 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: anyone who's being honest, a full on desperation move, right. 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's maybe they think that. 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: The desperation move is is better, but it would be 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: a move made in desperation. I don't care if it's planned. 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: I don't care if they've been getting ready for it. 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: This is what you do if you know. This is 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: like taking control of the plane after both pilots have 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: passed out and you're just hoping that you know, with 76 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: Google on your phone, you'll be able to land it. Like, 77 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 3: this is not what you want to be able to do. 78 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: Although Clay and I would both be confident we could 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: land the plane as in those stats, my wife would 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: not be confident that I could land the plane, but 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: I would be incredibly confident that I could do. You 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: agree with me that the challenge for Biden now now. 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: I also saw the video of him reading off of 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: the list of questions where he clearly doesn't know He 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: never knows where to stand. The note cards just get 86 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: more and more detailed. It's almost like he's got to 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: walk around with a huge poster board now to give 88 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: him any indication where he needs to be and what 89 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: he needs to be saying. I mean, it's it's very uncomfortable. 90 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: But I think the challenge that Biden has now is 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: he has to do something that is almost impossible, but 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: he has to persuade people that he's capable of doing 93 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: the job, which which requires that he be available publicly 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: doing the job. And the problem is, when we see 95 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: him attempting to do the job, all of the evidence 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: reflects that he cannot physically or mentally handle this. And 97 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: I just come back to I don't even know what 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: arguments he can make. And obviously, Thursday of next week, 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: when we have the State of the Union, is going 100 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: to be an incredibly difficult and important opportunity for him 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: because I think this, if he's the nominee, I agree 102 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: with you. I think you said a couple of years 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: ago you don't think Biden will debate. I think that's true. 104 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: It's altogether possible, Buck that we only really see Biden 105 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: talk for an hour and one sitting at the State 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: of the Union on Thursday of next week, and when 107 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: he theoretically accepts the nomination if he does in Chicago 108 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: in August. Otherwise I don't believe they will put him 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: him in a position where he has to talk to 110 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: the American public for an hour or more because I 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: think they know he can't do it, And even putting 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: him on the plane and flying him down to Texas 113 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: and having him walk along that trail, he looked totally 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: overwhelmed with just that simple of an activity. 115 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: Well, the issue that they have is you're going up 116 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: against somebody with Trump who when it comes to pageantry, visuals, 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: understanding the media, coming up with the big moments, He's 118 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: as good as any Republican ever really in our lifetime. 119 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you'd have to go back to Reagan, I think, 120 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: to have somebody who had the same ability to connect 121 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: with an audience but also had the same presence Trump is. 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: And this is true for anyone who's ever met him 123 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: shook his hand. He has a people would say in 124 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: you know, on Broadway stage presence right or in the theater, 125 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: he has a presence. Though he walks into the room 126 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: and everyone looks at him. You know, he comes up 127 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: on stage and everyone wants to hear what he has 128 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: to say. With Joe Biden, there there's really a a trepidation. 129 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: I mean there's a sense of, oh my gosh, is 130 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 3: this guy gonna be okay, and that's that's a real 131 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: disadvantage when you're going into a presidential cycle, or put 132 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: everything else aside. 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: It's very close. It's gonna you know, right. 134 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, Trump is ahead actually, but it's gonna be tight. 135 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: It's not like Joe Biden is expected to win this 136 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: thing by anyone, including the most ardent Democrats, by ten 137 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: points or even five points. 138 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Right. 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: If Biden threads the needle perfectly, he'll win by a 140 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: couple of percentage points. And so he needs to be 141 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: able to call on everything that he has to pull 142 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: that together. 143 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: And I just feel like Clay, I keep I sit here. 144 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: And try to be I try to rain on your 145 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: happiness post. 146 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: I try. I am the son, you are the cloud. Yeah. 147 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: I try to say no, no, no. They still have 148 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: a plan here for the legal stuff. There still going 149 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: to pull something together. And I've reached the point now 150 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: where I don't even know what the argument can be 151 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: for this is still going to work for them. 152 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: The you know, the Jack. 153 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: Smith case, and I know there's more things happening, but 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: given the way the public has already reacted to this, 155 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: it's not even clear anymore that a guilty verdict in 156 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: any of these would deliver the presidency to Joe Biden. 157 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: In fact, it might deliver the presidency to Trump. So 158 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure unless they really get to the. 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: Place where they think locking him up, I mean, actually 160 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: incarcerating him is going to be their move. And if 161 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: they do that, I honestly worry about the future of 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: the country in a really serious way. 163 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: So I don't think that will happen. I hope that 164 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: won't happen. 165 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: I think also the New York City angle is if 166 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: they could charge Trump civilly with rape of Egene Carroll 167 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: and hit him with an eighty eight million dollar verdict 168 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: and it had zero actual impact in terms of polling, 169 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: why do they think anything they do with Alvin Bragg 170 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: is going to be impactful? And so I think they 171 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: thought their ace in the hole was the legal proceedings, 172 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: the lawfare, that it was going to do something to Trump. 173 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: I look, if we were talking on March first, we 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: would have just had the early days. I'm sure you 175 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: remember doing your radio show Buck with the with the 176 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: cruise ship where everybody suddenly had COVID and it was docking. 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: Remember how big of a story that was for a 178 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and it actually ended up being kind 179 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: of a perfect laboratory to test COVID in jims in retrospect. 180 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: The data that we got, and we talked about a lot, 181 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: you and me, we were on top of this, it 182 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: was actually incredibly valuable. 183 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: So there is that. 184 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: Hey looming sort of asteroid political size event that could 185 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: happen in the next eight months that neither you nor 186 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: I could predict, that could have a massive impact on 187 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: this race. But in terms of the known foreseeable aspects 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: of this race, I don't see any way short of 189 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 2: and a lot of you out there are saying this, 190 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: screaming this already short of rigging the election on a 191 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: level that they are even beyond what they tried to 192 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: do in twenty twenty, I don't see any way Joe 193 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: Biden can win this race again barring based on what 194 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: we can see right now. 195 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: Now. 196 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 2: There's all sorts of chaotic events that could happen in 197 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: the next eight months. But as bad as Biden was 198 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: walking on that trail at the border, I'm not even 199 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: talking about the border policies, which we all know or failed, 200 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not talking about the crime issues or the 201 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: inflation issue, or the fact that most of you have 202 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: lost money since Biden went into office in terms of 203 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: the buying power, in terms of your paychecks, your wage 204 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: growth has not kept up with the overall rate of inflation. 205 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about any of that, which is obviously 206 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: a fail of Biden on epic proportions. I'm just talking 207 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: about the visual and the optics of his incapacity. I 208 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: think that it is almost impossible for him to win 209 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: based on what's going on right now. So we'll take 210 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: your calls by the way it is. Friday will react 211 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: to that. We also have a good story. Buck and 212 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: I were talking about off air. This bud Light brand 213 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: just really officially appears to be dead the Dylan mulvany incident. 214 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on Peyton Manning 215 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: and on UFC and all these things that they're doing 216 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: to try to get people to drink bud Light again, 217 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: and none of it is actually an apology for disrespecting 218 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: the audience that drink bud Light. And it feels to 219 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: me like many of you are completely done. I talked 220 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: about this during the football season, Buck, all over the South, 221 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: nobody had bud Light at their tailgates, you it was 222 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: the last beer to be consumed and short of a 223 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: public apology, which is what I think they should do 224 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: and what anybody who had any kind of decent business 225 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: sense would do, because guess what, the number of trands 226 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: influencers that are drinking bud Light is actually zero, So 227 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: there would be actually zero impact in terms of consumption 228 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: if you did that. They were never drinking bud Light 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: in the first place. To the extent they drink alcohol 230 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: at all, it certainly wasn't bud Light. But we'll talk 231 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: about that and more. 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I'm just getting the updates 262 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: on this now. As many of you who've known me 263 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: for years or listening to for years No, I started 264 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: my career at the Blaze, at Glenn Beck's The Blaze, 265 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: and now we are told that Blaze this is from 266 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: the Blaze official account. Blaze media investigative journalist Stephen Baker 267 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: or Steve Baker has been taken into FBI custody for 268 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: his January sixth reporting. We're going to be diving deeper 269 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: into this. The first reactions that come to mind on 270 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: this are, well, there are many things. One is, they 271 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't do this to a New York Times reporter. There's 272 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: always this this bigotry of how the government interacts with 273 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: say the New York Times, the Washington Post versus if 274 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: you work for a conservative media outlet like there's still this, 275 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: you're not really a journalist or you know, you don't 276 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: count in journalism, which is based on nothing other than 277 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: the snide condescension that the Libs have toward the non 278 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: legacy establishment media outlets. But Clay, I mean, do we 279 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: have any additional details? Can we get some additional details 280 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: from the Blaze. I'm gonna reach out to Glenn and 281 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: his team and see if we could have someone join 282 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: us on this. 283 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've got Jill Savage, who was in 284 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: the courtroom and she works at the Blaze now, she's 285 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: worked prior to that at OutKick. Some of you who 286 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: are sports people will remember Jill from She was a 287 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: sideline reporter for the Pac twelve network for ESPN for years. 288 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: She's pretty fantastic, smart, outspoken, and willing to give up 289 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: a good sports gig because she thinks the country's going 290 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: to going to heck in so many different levels. But 291 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: we'll talk to her, I think in a little bit. 292 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: But Buck a couple of details that I have seen 293 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: on this one. They've tried to review all of the 294 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: footage that involves this reporter from The Blaze on jan sixth, 295 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: and they can't find anything other than him taking videos 296 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: and reporting on what he was seeing inside of the capitol. 297 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: My understanding you mentioned in New York Times is that 298 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: the New York Times compensated him to allow him. They 299 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: used his footage, in other words, to report on what 300 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: actually ended up happening in the Capitol. 301 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: So that is. 302 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: Really interesting in and of itself because you mentioned, You're right, 303 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: the New Yorker had somebody in the crowd on jan. 304 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Sixth who was reporting as well, and there have been 305 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: no charges brought associated with that, so we don't know 306 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: all the details. 307 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Again, Jill was just in the courtroom with him. 308 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: This comes on the heels I would say, Bucket seems 309 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: somewhat connected the CBS investigative reporter. I believe her name 310 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: is Catherine Suffrage, and I might be messing up her 311 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: last name. I apologize if I did. But she has 312 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: now been charged eight hundred dollars a day by a 313 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: judge for refusing to reveal her sources in some of 314 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: her reporting. She was the one who was involved in verifying, 315 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: among other things, that the Hunter Biden laptop was real. 316 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: So all of this comes as we also have the 317 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: charges being brought against the individual in Las Vegas who 318 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: had reported the Bisma payments. 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Catherine Herridge is the CBS reporter. 358 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: But Jill, you were just in the courtroom with Steve Baker, 359 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: who was there covering January sixth. 360 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: What happened? What can you tell us about this case? 361 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I am actually standing just outside the courtroom 362 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: now waiting for Steve and his lawyers to come out. 363 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: But I can tell you that as of this morning, 364 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: Steve at seven am had you self surrender to the FBI. 365 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: His court hearing was today at ten am. He was 366 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: one of four defenders in there, and they told him 367 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 4: before this during this week, they said where shorts and sandals. 368 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 4: They wouldn't tell him the charges that they were going 369 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: to bring against him, Clay, but they told him to 370 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: wear shorts and sandals. We presumed that would be if 371 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: they would have him change in to an orange jumpsuit. 372 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: But he was indeed able to wear his dressed shirt 373 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 4: dress pants. But he was shackled at his wrists and ankles. Today. 374 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: They ended up bringing four misdemeanor charges. I don't know 375 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: if you've gone over those already or not. 376 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: We have it. 377 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: Can you tell us what is he being charged with? 378 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted 379 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 4: building or grounds without lawful authorities. The second charge is 380 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds. 381 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: The third charges of disorderly conduct in a capitol building, 382 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: in the fourth being parading and demonstrating or picketing in 383 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 4: the Capitol building. And that one has been used against 384 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: a lot of the January sixth defendants. The parading around 385 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 4: the Capitol building was a very popular charge to bring 386 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: against them. But yeah, so Steve Baker, he was in there, 387 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: you know, he's the first one up on the docket, 388 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: and he will be released at some point today and 389 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: then his next hearing is set for a d C 390 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: court on March fourteenth at twelve thirty Eastern. And So, Steve, 391 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: if you've been following this case, you know that Steve 392 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: Baker was an independent journalist. On January sixth, he said, 393 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: I was just going where the story led me. I 394 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: didn't know that I was going to be entering the 395 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: Capital Building that day. I had no free disposition to 396 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: be entering the Capitol Building that day. Even in the 397 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: documents that they provided us today from court, they said 398 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 4: he was in the building for approximately thirty seven minutes. 399 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: So play a journalist entering a capitol building for thirty 400 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 4: seven minutes is now leading us here to where we 401 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: have charges being brought, you know, against a journalist here. 402 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 3: Hey, Jill, it's it's bought. Do we have some sense 403 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: as to why now and why the delay? 404 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: Right? 405 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: I mean, there have been so many of these cases 406 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: brought in the past, it feels like the timing here 407 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: is significant. 408 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: Yes, And this is something that they have been hanging 409 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: over Steve Baker's head for about two and a half years. 410 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: They've always put it out there that they were going 411 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: to bring charges against him. That was just a threat, 412 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: though there was nothing that was ever concrete. Until December 413 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three, they said the charges would be imminent. Now, 414 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 4: what has changed, you ask? But he came on as 415 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: a Blaze media reporter in the summer of twenty twenty three, 416 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: and it seems that there would be a correlation between 417 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: the two because as you mentioned, it was such a 418 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: long time from one step to the next. But yeah, 419 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: in December twenty three, they said the charges would be 420 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: brought against him, they would be imminent. And here we 421 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: are now on March first, twenty twenty four, with his 422 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: day in court. 423 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: Where is the court proceeding? By the way, Jill, where 424 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: are you right now? 425 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: I am in downtown Dallas right now, So we are 426 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 4: just at a courthouse right here in Dallas, and that 427 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: the next court house will be in DC itself on 428 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 4: March fourteenth. 429 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: Okay, So question for you. 430 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 2: My understanding is that not only was he an independent journalist, 431 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: but that the New York Times actually used some of 432 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: his reporting from inside on January sixth, and on top 433 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: of that that they have reviewed security camera footage of 434 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: him on January sixth, that is, I saw the Speaker 435 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: of the House, Mike Johnson, talking about this, and they 436 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: haven't found anything that he did that was of a 437 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: disruptive nature that would support this. So this seems pretty 438 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: astounding that this would be happening. I'm surprised, and I 439 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen it all. Have any of 440 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: the so called left leaning media commented on this at all, 441 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 2: because there were a lot of left leaning media that 442 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: went into the Capitol on that day and reported as. 443 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: Well, Yeah, I have not seen any left leaning media 444 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 4: report on this so far. But one of the things 445 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 4: that has been interesting talking with Steve in the days 446 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: leading up to this trial, he said that he saw 447 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 4: a New York Times reporter go in to the Capitol 448 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: building through a broken window, and Steve just you know, 449 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: made a note of that in his head, going, oh, 450 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: that's that's odd. Why is this person going through this 451 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 4: broken window just entering the building this way? I'm just 452 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: going to go over here and find, you know, a 453 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: easy way through a door, you know. So it's just 454 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 4: it's interesting to see the way that things are being portrayed. 455 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: Because he has been approached by HBO, The New York Times, 456 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: several media outlets for his reporting that he had done 457 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: on January sixth, and it hadn't been a problem until 458 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: you know, things of unknown nature. Play has changed. 459 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: So what are the expectations now of the of the 460 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: next steps. I mean, you're you're outside the courthouse. You've 461 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: obviously been following this very closely. Are they trying to 462 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: offer some kind of a plea deal to him? 463 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Likely? 464 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: What do we think is going to be happening in 465 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: the days and weeks ahead with this journalist from the Blaze? 466 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that we're we're going to get those 467 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: answers from the the lawyers here later today when they 468 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: when they are able to make it out of the courthouse. 469 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: But they said to us before they went in, this 470 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: was exactly what they expected just for today just to 471 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: very you know, read through the the charges because that 472 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: was something that they had been holding. Again, you know, 473 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: they didn't actually tell Steve Baker what he was going 474 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 4: to be charged with until this morning because, as they said, 475 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: they were worried that he would tweet it out. So 476 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: I'm very excited to actually, I. 477 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: Mean now, by the way, I would tweet it out 478 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: if the FBI was going to charge me with something 479 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: related to doing my job too. Can you tell us 480 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: about Steve jail you, I'm assuming no him. You're in 481 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: the courtroom. What is Steve Baker like? How is he 482 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: handling this personally? I don't know what kind of family 483 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: he has, but obviously the requirement to defend yourself when 484 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: we know that they've been trying to put people in 485 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: prison for January sixth related events, It's it's hard to 486 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: see this as anything else other than the hard hand 487 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: of government coming down on someone who's reporting they don't like. 488 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: Tell us about him. 489 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve is just, you know, a great guy that 490 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: you see around the office. He's been coming into the 491 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 4: office every day this week, just you know, business as usual, 492 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: and we all just kind of look around at him, like, hey, 493 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 4: you know, maybe you should go do something fun. You 494 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: don't know what's actually going to be happening on Friday. 495 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: But when you look at Steve, he's like, I'm just there. 496 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 4: I just want to share with the people what I 497 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: saw heard learn that. He's like, I've been a journalist 498 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: for so long now, this isn't this isn't even like 499 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 4: you know, the probably the single most defining thing that 500 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 4: I will do in my career. It might change now 501 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: that the FBI has actually arrested him, but when you 502 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: look at it, he just is a pretty just, you know, 503 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: good average guy that you that you just you never 504 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: think that something like this would be happening in the 505 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 4: United States of America. And Steve, you know, he asked 506 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: his lawyers this week, why are they Why are they 507 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: doing this to me? Why is it me that they're 508 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 4: singling out? And as lawyers said to him, you know why, 509 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 4: because you've poked them in the eye for the last 510 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 4: three years, Steve, they aren't going to just let this go. 511 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: So when you say who is Steve, he's just He's 512 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: a great guy who everybody would be happy to have 513 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 4: in their circle of friends. Who was a guy doing 514 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: his job on January sixth, who didn't know that January 515 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: sixth is going to turn into what it did. 516 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: Jill, appreciate you being with us. Thanks for bringing the 517 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: story to us. We'll continue to follow it and have updates. Obviously, 518 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: we'll want to know what happens when he's out of 519 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: court later today. 520 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, thank you, thank you very much. Clay. I 521 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: was at the Blaze for six years. That's where I 522 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: started my cuts. It has to hit you two clubs. 523 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: I mean, having been a writer at the Blaze, this 524 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: guy's literally just covering jan six then they are now 525 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: trying to put him in prison for it. 526 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: Clay I was. 527 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: I was a Blaze writer and I was right there 528 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: when police were a pepper spring and hitting with batons 529 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: all the Zukati Park occupy Wall Street. 530 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: I was standing right there. But you know, I wasn't 531 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of it. I was next to it. 532 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: So you know, I know what it is to be 533 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: somebody who's trying to bring the public the truth but 534 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 3: you don't have that establishment shield. I mean, and in 535 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: what world does that make any sense? 536 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: Right? 537 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: The Blaze gets millions and millions of readers a month. 538 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: Why is one treated like journalism as in the New 539 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: York Times and the other doesn't count? You know, I 540 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 3: don't even like this term. People say, oh, well, they're 541 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: citizen journalists or they're you know, independent. No, you're just 542 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 3: You're just a journalist, the same way anybody else is. Though, 543 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: I think the term journalist is these increasingly meaningless because 544 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: everybody has access to platforms. But we'll continue to follow 545 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: this and anything we can do to help out get 546 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: the story out here for our friends at the Blaze, 547 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: we will do so. And you know, the first video 548 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: camera that my family owned was my dad's. He had 549 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: four kids and love taking video of us opening presents 550 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: on Christmas, you know, Thanksgiving with my grandparents, me chasing 551 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: my brothers around, playing little tackle football without the pads, 552 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. And I'm glad he did. 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Yesterday, Buck, we talked with Julie Kelly 580 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: and I mentioned that there is a hearing going on 581 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: right now. I saw Julie tweet and this is typically 582 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: the case in federal courtrooms. You aren't allowed to take 583 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: a phone in, which is wild in general. I still 584 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: think that's kind of crazy that that rule exists. But 585 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: she just tweeted Buck during her lunch break from Judge 586 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: Cannon's case down in South Florida. That's a classified documents 587 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: case that at the outset Judge Cannon stated, Trump is 588 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: in the courtroom, by the way, at the outset. Judge 589 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: Cannon stated the Special Council's new proposed trial schedule starting 590 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: on July eighth, is unrealistic given that there are thirteen 591 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: outstanding motions, not to mention that the trial with Alvin 592 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: Bragg is expected to last six to eight weeks for 593 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: a substantial time there So it appears unlikely that based 594 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: on her reporting surrounding the questioning that is going on 595 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: right now, that we are likely to get any updated 596 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: soon trial case taking place in South Florida, and part 597 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: of that maybe that Alvin Bragg's case buck is going 598 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: to take up probably six to eight weeks, if not longer, 599 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: taking us into the summer before there's any resolution in 600 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: that case, to say nothing of what's going on in 601 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: DC or the ongoing South Florida. And remember, we could 602 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: potentially get Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade a decision being 603 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: made potentially today on whether they're allowed to continue prosecuting 604 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: Trump in Atlanta. So all these machinations going on, but 605 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: this prosecution again that we were just talking about of 606 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: Steve Baker is pretty outrageous, and I hope that we're 607 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: going to get more details on this, but to wait 608 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: two and a half years to suddenly charge him three 609 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: years basically with Jan sixth related violations is crazy. 610 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: Well, also, you know that. 611 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: If a legacy Democrat outlet journalist was arrested for covering 612 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: a riot, right, I mean, to my knowledge, they're not 613 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: saying that Steve was involved in breaking anything or attacking 614 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: any cops, but he was present as this was going on. 615 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: They would all be completely outraged. We'd be hearing about 616 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: the death of the First Amendment and all of these things. 617 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: But because it's a conservative media outlet founded by Glenn Beck, 618 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: they have a very different well, the approach is silence 619 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: or actually not just indifference. They would like to see 620 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: him punished because anybody who is a conservative is a 621 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: Trump supporter. In their minds, anybody who's a Trump supporter 622 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: is an insurrectionist. An insurrectionist don't have rights, as we've 623 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: seen from so many of the j six prosecutions, that 624 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: they've already engaged in locking people up for. I mean, 625 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: I still one of the most chilling things I have 626 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 3: read from any court in the United States is certainly 627 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: in my lifetime, was the judge in DC saying that 628 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: one of the nonviolent J six individuals was a danger 629 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: to the public because if he was released pending trial, 630 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: he would have a he would try to overthrow the government. Again, Yeah, 631 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: I mean a judge that is a sentie in human 632 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: being apparently thought that that was a real fear that 633 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 3: one person being let go is going to overthrow the government, 634 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: so they should be kept in solitary confinement. This is 635 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: only going to get worse, although, unfortunately Clay, because they're 636 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: going to get more desperate as the legal plans against 637 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: Trump keep foundering, you know, keep having problems, so they're 638 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: going to just try to grab whoever they can and 639 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: make examples of them. Because they have promised the Democrat 640 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: base that there will be a come up in for 641 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: Trump and all of his supporters for January sixth, Then 642 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: if Trump becomes president again, that's going to be kind 643 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: of tough for them to sell. 644 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: I think it's interest seeing what Jill told us was 645 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: that Steve Baker has said and we need to get 646 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: Steve on if he'd be willing to come on. I'm 647 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: sure his attorneys are going to tell him, hey, don't 648 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: say anything publicly at this time, but when the FBI 649 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: is willing to purp walk you and put you in 650 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: leg shackles and also put you in handcuffs. Maybe you're 651 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: just willing and think it's necessary to speak out about 652 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: what's going on to you. I would think that being 653 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 2: able to testify to having seen other journalists what Jill 654 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: just mentioned, a New York Times journalist was in there 655 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: on that day, I imagine that what they're trying to argue, 656 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 2: based on Steve Baker's politics is that he wasn't actually 657 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: a journalist on that day, and that he doesn't deserve 658 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: to be treated differently than anybody else that went in 659 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: on jan six. That's my guest as to what the 660 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: government's argument is. Obviously I haven't read the charges here, 661 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: but for misdemeanors three years after the event, for a 662 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: guy who works at the Blaze, it's hard to see 663 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: this as anything other than supremely targeted based on his 664 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: political agenda. 665 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: And it's intimidation. You know. 666 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: It sends a message to anybody who is ideologically right 667 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 3: of center, who wants to try to speak truth about 668 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: what the Biden regime is doing or anything else. 669 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna get you. 670 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: That's what this is right, that same thing they do 671 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: to pro life activist, the same thing they do to 672 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: conservative journalists and media figures. You know, make the wrong meme, 673 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: go to prison, cover a riot and you're a conservative, 674 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 3: go to prison. 675 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: I'm starting to sense a trend. 676 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: Clay, Yeah, no doubt, and it is intended to have 677 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: that chilling impact. So we'll keep you updated on that story. 678 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: You want to talk a little bud Light and how 679 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: they've collapsed when we come over here, Buck, we'll do Yes, 680 00:36:49,440 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: let's get into bud Light. Let's having a rough one.