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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Not Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Tuesday, April twenty eighth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm Tree Skeets here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always.

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Speaker 2: Taskmin podcast listeners. Quince lovers, this one's for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look good in You're quints man Quincy. Next

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Speaker 1: to him, it's Matasha, hop Boy, Trey Kirby, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: oh and over there making the magic happen. Super producer jd. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is here, we are Wow. How long has

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Speaker 1: that Yoda lamp been behind you?

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Speaker 3: Great question? I can't see it because my monor is

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Speaker 3: not working. It's been there, Yeah, it's been there. I

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Speaker 3: don't know a week or so.

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Speaker 1: What this is the first time I noticed lamp was there?

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Speaker 2: Maybe or late last week?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Jack's been doing some you know, tidying up and rearranging

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Speaker 3: and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So well, it's nice to see the Oda lamp. You've

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Speaker 1: been doing Star Wars movies. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, this

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Speaker 1: all makes sense now. Hello to everybody on YouTube, hit

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Speaker 1: the like buttons, subscribe, podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews,

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. On today's show. A little bit later,

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Speaker 1: we got the updown Report. We're gonna throw some thumbs

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Speaker 1: on a few NBA topics, including our Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: Year winner, but we got the playoff games to break

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Speaker 1: down here, and we'll start with the Orlando Magic defeeding

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Speaker 1: the Pistons ninety four eighty eight. They take the three

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Speaker 1: to one series lead and move one win away from

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Speaker 1: becoming the seventh number eight seed in NBA history to

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Speaker 1: beat a number one seed. One more tasks and the

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Speaker 1: Pistons are out despite a sixty win season.

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Speaker 2: HM, this feels like it's over. It sure does that

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Speaker 2: the Pistons aren't gonna be able to come back for

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Speaker 2: three games. In this particular one came down to who

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Speaker 2: wants to lose less at the end of the game,

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Speaker 2: and the Magic won that battle. The last five minutes

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Speaker 2: showed how much Cad has relied on and it's sort

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Speaker 2: of war him down in both these games in Orlando,

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Speaker 2: and you could see it in this one. They scored

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Speaker 2: one point the last five minutes of this game. Essentially

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Speaker 2: it was a garbage bucket, but for Kate not to

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Speaker 2: be able to do that on some open shots, you

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Speaker 2: could just see how much the focus is on him.

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Speaker 2: I think there's more focus on him as the number

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Speaker 2: one guy than there is in any other playoff series

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Speaker 2: because their rest of their roster is not coming through whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: I think when it comes down to it, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: look back at game one of this series and say

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Speaker 2: that's the game they had to win at home. Their

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Speaker 2: role players are supposed to play better, and no one

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Speaker 2: supported Kid's thirty nine essentially in that game, and people

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Speaker 2: will be asking, I mean, looking up and down that roster.

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Speaker 2: I thought the bench would come through. I thought the

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Speaker 2: replacements of Dennis Shrewder and Malik Beasley would come through.

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Speaker 2: Malik Beasley, why'd you have to gamble man? If he

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Speaker 2: was out there in Game one? I think he hit

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Speaker 2: some shots. But in this one, as a game down,

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Speaker 2: you look at every session where they only scored one

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Speaker 2: point in those last five minutes, and Kate was just

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Speaker 2: unable to hit open shots. And either were his friends,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a lot of shot making. At the end

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Speaker 1: the final four to fifty of game time. The two

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Speaker 1: made shots. By the way, Desmond Bine banked in three.

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Speaker 1: Don't think he meant to do that one from up top.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, the meaningless Isaiah Stewart put back right

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Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy, but yeah, maybe not surprising how

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Speaker 1: this has gone where it's just Cayden if you can

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Speaker 2: And just that. And to win the ugly battle, the

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Speaker 2: Pistons just had to play a little better defense. I

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Speaker 2: fantastic defender. But these games, this fourth quarter where it

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Speaker 2: he missed Jalen Suggs that rotation. Jalen Slugs had a

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Speaker 2: three three of nineteen points just like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, these teams watched Cavaliers versus Raptors Game four said

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Speaker 4: I want that for us. Yeah, it made it just

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Speaker 4: a mud fight, what could this possibly be? This was

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Speaker 4: a bone fight. I don't know what it all was. It

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Speaker 4: was disgusting. And that's been the story for the Pistons

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Speaker 4: Their offensive rating and fourth quarters so far ninety point

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Speaker 4: five for one hundred possessions. That's not very many. No,

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Speaker 4: saying they didn't make a shot for five minutes, and

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, Kate is missing shots, but he's the

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Speaker 4: five sets of eyes on him because nobody else is

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Speaker 4: doing anything out there. They're most used lineup in these

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Speaker 4: fourth quarters is their starters, Cad Duncan, Robinson, Tobias Harris,

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Speaker 4: those guys. Asar needs to sit on the bench. Duran

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Speaker 4: probably should be bench for Beef stew At this point,

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Speaker 4: Stuart's playing a lot better than he is. At least

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Speaker 4: he can shoot a three pointer. I don't know who

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Speaker 4: you bring in for usr Thompson. He is making plays defensively,

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Speaker 4: but it's like Dannis Jenkins hasn't done anything to deserve

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Speaker 4: minutes in fourth quarters. Right here, Kevin Hurder can't even

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Speaker 4: get off the bench. But still when you're playing Duran

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Speaker 4: and Thompson out there with everybody else, there's literally no

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Speaker 4: space for kid to do anything. So I don't know

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Speaker 4: what the solution is. The solution is to make a

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Speaker 4: move at the trade deadline, Like literally everybody was saying,

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Speaker 4: you need a second scorer, you need shooting. They got

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Speaker 4: neither of them, and their second scorer has turned into

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Speaker 4: a complete shell of himself, Like Jalen Dirty had his

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Speaker 4: best game of the series last night, twelve points, eight boards,

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Speaker 4: but he looks so timid, he looks so tentative, and

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Speaker 4: he looks like a worse athlete than when Dell Carter Junior,

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Speaker 4: which I thought was the complete opposite for the entirety

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Speaker 4: for the Pistons is. Probably they have to just hope

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Speaker 4: you know, however many games they've played eighty eight games

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Speaker 4: this season over the long run, They've had win streaks,

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Speaker 4: they've had losing streaks, They've had bad times, and right

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Speaker 4: now that feels like the easiest way for the Pistons

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Speaker 4: to get a win is the magic playing bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our fronts keeps being injured, that's part of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he left this game, won't play twenty four minutes.

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Speaker 2: He scored nineteen, super efficient. If he's injured for Game five,

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Speaker 2: that would help the trait Matt the Pistons going back home.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's why I go back to Game one.

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Speaker 2: Your role players supposed to play better every single one.

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Speaker 2: The biggest shock I think is Jalen Duran specifically.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, for sure, the guy is going

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Speaker 1: to be He's likely going to be on an All

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Speaker 1: per game, obviously did work on the glass all regular season,

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Speaker 1: shot sixty five percent during the regular season, and he's

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Speaker 1: been totally neutralized by Orlando's size. Really that they've thrown

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Speaker 1: job on him. They've just dared him to make more

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Speaker 1: has gone on, because it's become this story, right, It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Caid's getting locked up here and all attentions on him.

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Speaker 1: You know, where's where? Where are you, Robin? You know

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Speaker 1: you got to help him out here. But he's averaging

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Speaker 1: nine point eight points per game and he's shooting forty

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Speaker 1: seven percent. He has nine assists of twelve turnovers. This

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Speaker 1: is Jalen Duran here, So yeah, there's something here. But

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Speaker 1: I'm with you TK at this point, especially with your backskin.

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Speaker 1: So Walt, why not? Maybe maybe it is switch it

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Speaker 1: up and more beef stew like he didn't play a

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Speaker 1: whole lot despite being a positive player in last night's game,

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Speaker 1: and he's at least a little bit more more of

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Speaker 1: a threat. I mean, to open up the floor a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Obviously, eight blocks huge, he's out there for

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Speaker 1: defensive purposes. But I think bicker Staff might have to

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Speaker 1: try something.

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Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, because this is bad.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting anything else now.

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Speaker 2: He gave him a few minutes in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: because he was playing the way everybody imagines Detroit basketball

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Speaker 2: to be played hard. I mean he was playing ridiculously hard.

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Speaker 2: He has been really good off bench those eight blocks.

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Speaker 2: That being said, he's not gonna score a lot of points,

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Speaker 2: and so, yeah, the collapse around Caid especially there was

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Speaker 2: with a couple of minutes left after Caid was stopped.

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Speaker 2: Sar Thompson got the ball and he went directly to

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Speaker 2: the same side where Caid was. Didn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: And there's so many bodies there. Tobias was opening the

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Speaker 2: other quarter, So I'm not sure why I tried that,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, none, none of the answers are coming from

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Speaker 2: the bench. They did know that they needed a score

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Speaker 2: at the trade deadline, so they tried the J and

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Speaker 2: IVY trade for Kevin Hurder. He didn't play a ton,

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Speaker 2: he didn't get into the flow here. That didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: The classic lose lose trade. Yeah, I'd love to see it,

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Speaker 1: the opposite of the win win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I still think the Pistons probably won that one, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I could have done maybe anything else

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Speaker 1: at the deadline helped your chances, said, trade a first

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Speaker 1: round pick for Michael Porters, right, he would shoot shots,

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Speaker 1: he would stretch the court, he would be out there

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Speaker 1: for us R.

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Speaker 4: Thompson At this point, anything would have been better than

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Speaker 4: trading for a guy who doesn't play.

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Speaker 2: Get a better package together for I would assume.

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Speaker 4: There's so many there's so many bulls you could name.

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Speaker 4: It could be Kevin Hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Kid's fourth quarter. You could see his legs

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Speaker 2: weren't there, or he just hold.

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Speaker 1: On cutting him was Garbage's entire game, though, too. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to let him off the hook too much.

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Speaker 1: He had four turnovers in the first leg. He was

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball at guy's knees on the fast break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had two bad games in Orlando.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had seventeen turnovers to fifteen assists over these

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Speaker 1: last two losses, and a lot of them are avoidable,

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Speaker 1: as much as the Magic are obviously loading up on

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Speaker 1: him and all eyes on him. There's two times in

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Speaker 1: this game. The one that I just said he threw

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Speaker 1: it at Green's knees. That was a that's buckets nobody scores. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the greens knees. I tell you that should have been

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Speaker 2: And then he had the other what do you mean, miss,

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Speaker 2: miss free throws too, and the other one it was.

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Speaker 1: A three on two and kid, he like he should

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Speaker 1: So he's played bad here.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: The guy had like a collapse long like forty days ago, true,

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Speaker 1: this game. After all those turnovers start, they're done seventeen.

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Speaker 4: last night. He's got twenty four in his last three games.

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Speaker 4: Like that's a ridiculous number. Detroit had twenty and Orlando's

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Speaker 4: And you're giving them opportunities. You're just giving them chances

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Speaker 4: Kris livert played twenty five minutes and two points.

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Speaker 2: He blocked a shot. Who cares? He never does that. No,

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Speaker 4: He's it's done. It's over for Carris liver Carrol's pervert.

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Speaker 2: what do I do? And Toby missed twy Saarius missed

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Speaker 2: Listen, when you look back at it, if it is

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Speaker 2: the Pistons. It hasn't been anybody. It could have been

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Speaker 1: I guess we're making fun of Baines banked in three,

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Speaker 4: Can't stop doing you couldnot cannot Ain't gonna suspend me

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Speaker 5: Oh, one of the highest dunk seen. I did see it.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one point five Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: Second highest ever test ever? Really ever, what the hell

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Speaker 1: I thought we would thought we had determined it was one.

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Speaker 4: Twenty higher year it was. I don't know. They said,

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Speaker 4: catch Justin CHAMPENNI someday. That was a big time though,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he should have just like subbed himself right out. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: He had his best game of his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, And I mean he got in there with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the notes about his past come out

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Speaker 2: when he's got a dunk like that. I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: Insult to injury and Piston's team dunking on them. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Tracy McGrady series where they blow the three one

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Speaker 4: He says, you cannot find video of me saying that

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Speaker 4: I get to go to the second round. Come on, Oh,

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Speaker 4: he said that video doesn't exist. I was just joking

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Speaker 4: You did say it or there's no video of it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's both.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't an interview. I thought it was at the

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Speaker 4: I thought, I know, is where you gotta find that video?

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Speaker 2: Because he left, Oh this is pre show even man.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but he left the Toronto Raptors and said

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Speaker 2: us as Raptors fans. Then he did it in front

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Speaker 4: Everybody, everybody knows that it happened. Yeah, he's like it didn't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Ken Detroit do it again, unfortunate to Magic

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Speaker 1: is saying, Trey, do you believe like maybe they could

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Speaker 1: three games in a row? Just score enough? But somebody

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Speaker 4: I would have to imagine that the Pistons take Game five.

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Speaker 4: It feels dumb saying that out loud, but you know

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Speaker 4: it'll be their absolute best effort of the series. Season

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Speaker 4: maybe Paul Reid has ten and ten or something, right,

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00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 4: like a weird explosion from a role player. Can happen

433
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 4: at home. But I just don't have a lot of

434
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 4: faith in this Pistons team right now to consistently generate

435
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 4: offense against a team in the Piston or in the

436
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: in the Magic that plays so similarly to the way

437
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 4: they do that wants to take away the things that

438
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 4: the Pistons consider strengths, like offensive rebounding, turnovers. Those have

439
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 4: tilted towards the Magic, and that's something that the Pistons

440
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 4: need to win. I just don't know if they'll be

441
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 4: able to do it three straight times.

442
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they win game five, Yeah they can do that.

443
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: I think they'll say, hey, Orlando Magic got to play

444
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: in that play in tournament. They had a flow going.

445
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: They went on Friday playoffs on Sunday. US we had

446
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: like a week off, so we didn't have a good

447
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: flow going into game one, and that's why everybody was

448
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: in the single digits in terms of scoring other than

449
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: Kid and a little inefficient game from Tobias. So they'll

450
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 2: come around. They'll win a game. All those guys. They

451
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: can't do Detroit like they did in game one. They

452
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 2: obviously recovered in game two. But okay, yeah they win

453
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: a game.

454
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: But you don't love their chances to win three and

455
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: zero against this team. I don't the Magic are a

456
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: good home team in the playoffs here, too true.

457
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 2: I just thought coming to the series, you're gonna get

458
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 2: four really good k games and you'd have enough support

459
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: from their teammates. And you got two great ones in

460
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 2: the first two and you only won one. So how

461
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: much can you expect if Kate to have three more

462
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: awesome games? I highly somebody has them.

463
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: Tobias has to hit a corner, three Duncan Robinson has

464
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: to do anything. But they're just completely you know, you

465
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: just stay attached to him and like, yeah, he can

466
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: bomb away, but I haven't been amazed by like looks

467
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: he's even getting and having to rush it. Great job defensively,

468
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: part of their game plan, no doubt. Yeah, these other

469
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: guys Jenkins, sorry, there's been nothing hurder in his minutes.

470
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: Nothing.

471
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah has been awesome. Storre, it's been great

472
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: off the bench. But if he tries.

473
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: Something else a week off, it's like that. It's like

474
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: that division series in baseball. You can't go in with

475
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: a week off. So that's what hurts. Very true in baseball,

476
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: way more important than in basketball. These guys should have

477
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: won Game one.

478
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, imagine this becomes the series that the Magic win.

479
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: They were a fifth seed and what maybe they were

480
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: a seventh seed last year, lost in the playoffs both times,

481
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 4: and now they come in as an eight seed and

482
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 4: they're going to win, and I mean they could do

483
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: it in five games. Yeah, that's just a weird, weird stuff.

484
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: I want to just Tracey McGrady must have got that

485
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: video wiped from the internet. If it's not there, he

486
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: must have done an incredible job. Had his PR team

487
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: has new podcast producers for Cousins the podcast, go out

488
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: and say delete all this because if it's not there,

489
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but I remember it is. It's

490
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: post game three. He's sitting at the desk saying we're done.

491
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: We won. They should be playing that if they can

492
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: find that copy in the Pistons locker room.

493
00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: Man some other random notes, how about the I guess

494
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: the officials we can blame for not catching Desmond Bain's

495
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: bloody elbow for a few possessions that some of the

496
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: most blood you've ever seen on a guy while play

497
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: was allowed to continue. Heaven forbid, Like somebody has like

498
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: a bloody nose, like, everybody stop, everybody stopped. We gotta

499
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: get this patched up fair enough too. But his arm

500
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: was like dripping blood and like the game was going

501
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: on for a I don't know, possession or too.

502
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: It felt like did he go to the free throw

503
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 4: line with blood dripping on his arm or what? There

504
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: was definitely free throws and I think could cut to it.

505
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: You can see it going from his elbow all the

506
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 4: way to his wrist. And then like in the middle

507
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 4: game last night, say yield tosty, Alexander had a tiny

508
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: cut yeah on his arm and they fixed it like that.

509
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: If you're under one hundred points both teams, we're gonna

510
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 4: let you bleed.

511
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.

512
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: And then this is an extremely random note, but this

513
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: is why you come to No Dunks or listening to

514
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: No Dunks. Halftime, they showed the broadcast crew Uh Grady,

515
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Austin Rivers and Robbie Eummel, and behind them I couldn't

516
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: stop watching this guy here. Now we only have a photo,

517
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: but there's a funny cl up and maybe we'll turn

518
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: this into something. There's a guy behind the broadcast crew

519
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: at halftime just taking down a bag of cheese. It's

520
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: and you can never see his face, so you can

521
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: never see him actually eating them. But at one point

522
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: he does the old put the bag up to the

523
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: mouth and just goes like yeah, dumps him into his

524
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: gullet as he was trying to get his cheese. It's

525
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: in at half time. I couldn't tell if he worked

526
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: with the broadcast crew orf he was just a fan

527
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: standing there because he's got a bag there. It almost

528
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: looks like to anyway.

529
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: It's a little snack bag though, it's not a monstrous bag.

530
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: It's a little teeny guy. That's what I always do.

531
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: It's a snack sizer for sure. Cheese it's coming a box,

532
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: of course.

533
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, it's definitely a bag, no doubt.

534
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. But like you get chips, it's the same size.

535
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: It's small.

536
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 4: You put that in a kid's lunch for sure.

537
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've seen smaller bags of

538
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: those two though, yeah, Delta f Yeah, they give you

539
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: four cheese its.

540
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta dump. I always dump at the

541
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 2: end of my bags as well, like I dump it in.

542
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: Do you guys are you dumpers? Because because otherwise what

543
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? Stick your hand in there and

544
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: grab the little crumbs. You might as well just pour it,

545
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: especially on a plane.

546
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you gotta dump on a plane.

547
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: The best experience dumping on a plane.

548
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: Have you heard the hack with cheese its? Apparently if

549
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: there is a K before the serial number on a

550
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: box or potentially a bag of cheese, it's they're supposed

551
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: to taste better because the Kansas City, Kansi, Kansas manufacturing

552
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: plant makes the best cheese its. Wow, yeah, now you know,

553
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: I didn't know that is I didn't know that is?

554
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: It? Is it cheesier? Like I taste that little sort

555
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: of raunchy cheesy more.

556
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I think that's what it is. I

557
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: got served up a nice taste of cheese. It content

558
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: on the algorithm at some point this week, and I

559
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: was happy to learn that.

560
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: This to me, in our NBA world, this this guy

561
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: taking down the bag and cheese. It's behind the broadcast

562
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: booth while the game is at halftime. This is like

563
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: the jar of Nautella floating in space on the Artemis. Oh,

564
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: this is my version that just like, WHOA was that

565
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: a commercial?

566
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: Well?

567
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: Why do I suddenly want cheese its? You know in

568
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: this case. So maybe maybe maybe I got duped. Maybe

569
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: this is all like, yeah.

570
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: Maybe when those guys were dressed in all green behind

571
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: the hornets bench, it was like the rideshare guys. This

572
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: is the cheese a.

573
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: Guy guy, and he does have a bag there that

574
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: he could have put it in. Put the cheese bag

575
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: in a bag if he's the the seller or the

576
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: promoter of the Jesus.

577
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: Any other notes on Piston's back.

578
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: Got a handful of Quickie quick here go goo. Batase

579
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 4: had two humongous blocks. He had two blocks and both

580
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 4: of them were like he had his hand on top

581
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: of the ball slamming it down to the point where

582
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: they thought the second one was going to be a goaltend,

583
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: but it was not. I think he'd be a great

584
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 4: beach volleyball player.

585
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, beach Batase.

586
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: Paulo Boncaro's shoe came off at one point. He didn't

587
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: untie it to put it back on. No, I have

588
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 4: jammed his foot.

589
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: He well, he struggled to jam a background and then

590
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: I thought he then did he not play with the

591
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: laces a little bit to get it back on? And

592
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: then yeah, Austin, that was when Austin was going off

593
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: about those shoes.

594
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: He would not say. He's like, I don't. I won't

595
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: say anything nice about him because I'm.

596
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: In a d discuss. That's right, only only three stripes.

597
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: I do think NBA players it's become a habit when

598
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: they put it on their shoes. Again, they don't unlace them.

599
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: They just jammed a couple times.

600
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: Came off weirdly though his did come because it wasn't

601
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: like usually a guy has stepped on like that heel

602
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: type thing. But I feel like his came off on

603
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: his own, like planting backwards or something like that. Yeah,

604
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: it was a cool Uh. I guess with those like

605
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: penny colored, is that what you would call it?

606
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: Jordan forty?

607
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: There you go, yep.

608
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: And my last thing is that, Uh, Austin Rivers said,

609
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: you hit it on the head Robbie like fifty times. Yeah,

610
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: he get on the head, Robbie absolutely get on the head. Robbie.

611
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: Ye. A couple of crazy lines. Actually, he said something

612
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: about facials at one point, and he was talking volleyball,

613
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: but it came across the word. Although we were we

614
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: going to talk to this guy, we were always talking

615
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: dumpers and dicks and all.

616
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: That but it's a good as though, it's a good

617
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: Austin impression something.

618
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh he had a he had a weird moment. Did

619
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: you catch when he was like he did this whole

620
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: playoff pe thing.

621
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes he did.

622
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do that. Yeah, so the whole of course,

623
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: Paul George, he was he calling, he was talking about Paolo,

624
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: but then he's called them Pablo, playoff Pablo, and then

625
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: it got like quiet for a second and they're like

626
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: a crab and made it worse.

627
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the I do like their editor.

628
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I like these three. There's some reason there's they're like,

629
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something there's zany for some reason.

630
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: They're not like polished, I guess the best way to

631
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: put it, but sort of in a good way.

632
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: You hit on the head, you hit it on the head. Yeah,

633
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: Paolo got away with, you know, pretty poor game.

634
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was horrible.

635
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was Jalen suns one of thirteen. So

636
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: they fly under the radar because they get a w

637
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 2: a lot of free throws, a lot of throws. Playoff Pablo.

638
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: But you said, I mean, you said Cad missed one late,

639
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Like didn't the Pistons miss like seven free throws in

640
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.

641
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he missed too, he missed a lot.

642
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: They were always splitting them when they were Yeah.

643
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: They're splitters. Yeah, do not look confidence. Just one note.

644
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm conflating Tracy mcgrady's post game press conference with

645
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: when they lost. Maybe because when they ended up losing

646
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: those three games, he does his press conference and that

647
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: is a famous one. Maybe it's that one that I

648
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: constantly see, So I'm conflating it with when they went

649
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: up three to one. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he does

650
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: at the end when they end up losing he says,

651
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: I tried man, I tried man. That's a great yeah.

652
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: So maybe I'm wrong. Maybe maybe it just was a

653
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: reporter asking him and we're videos gone.

654
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: We're gonna find that video test.

655
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Maybe he says, it's a mys You're right, it's a myth.

656
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, Doc Rivers was coaching a team up through

657
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: one and I remember, so that's the one thing that

658
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: the Magic have going for Mosley in there. I can't

659
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: get over the fact. Look, we were wrong. I was

660
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: definitely wrong. I thought this team was dead. They literally

661
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: they completely quit on the end of the season, and

662
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: it was just like going through the motions, didn't even

663
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: care to get into like through the plane into the playoffs. Yeah,

664
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, we were joking about the one two three

665
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: CanCon but it was like the next step. They already

666
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: had their swim trunks on underneath their uniforms. You know,

667
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: they were ready, they were checked out, they were gone.

668
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: Mosley was fired, he's been unfired, he's been rehired. It's

669
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: crazy how quickly this has turned. And it's I think

670
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: a big part of it. Yeah, it's been a good

671
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: matchup for them getting I guess the Pistons in the

672
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: one eight, absolutely, but the physicality and that they can

673
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: match that and obviously taken and neuter Jaalen Duran Yeah,

674
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: and nobody else contributing or helping Kate wild stuff, that

675
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: they can wrap this up here. They get three chances.

676
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I wrong, Wendell Carter. Yeah, he cause

677
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: see's the scapula and new.

678
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: Let's took him to the vet.

679
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: Let's just imagine though, imagine they win that first playoff

680
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: or playing game against the Sixers. Right, They're going against

681
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: the Celtics, and the Celtics are bombing threes.

682
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I know, the magic.

683
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: We're like it's itches over for this team. Instead, they

684
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: could make the conference finals. Like it's not out of

685
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: the world rebel possibility. They're going against the Raptors or

686
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: the Cavaliers, who have both had two good games two

687
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: bad games.

688
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: I love that going around people are realizing that the

689
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Raptors or the Pistons could be in the Eastern Conference Final.

690
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: You hell throw the Cavs in that mix too, But

691
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: like those two teams, one of those two teams could

692
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: be the finalists in the Eastern Conference Finals.

693
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy exciting.

694
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Minnesota. They staved off of the Yeah,

695
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying it, way to stave boys. Minnesota still leads

696
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: the series three to Jokich with the triple double as

697
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: the Nuggets avoid elimination one thirteen win against the injured Wolves.

698
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: You know Anthony Edwards, you know Dante DiVincenzo. But some

699
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: role players for Denver obviously helped out. It was Jokic.

700
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I thought we'll get into Jokich and Jamal Murray and

701
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: all that, but other guys contributing, like Cam Johnson had

702
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: his best game in the series so far. Yes, he

703
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: had been a bit of a ghost before that, but

704
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: he had a good game. Spencer Jones coming through. Yeah,

705
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: had a bunch of threes there in that third quarter,

706
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: and uh, even Tigas Jones getting dusted off and given

707
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: David Adelman like, at least another guy could dribble and

708
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: you'll bring up the ball and play make it take

709
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of the pressure off of Jamal and

710
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: maybe Yokich with the at least just bring it up.

711
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: So anyway, he got some contributions there and they survive.

712
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that third quarter when the threes just started dropping

713
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: and Spencer Jones is splashing eleven points for him, he

714
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: went down. I thought, is that an ankle injury and

715
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: those andiums that are supposed to support your feet impossible, impossible.

716
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: It was totally fine. He just got one in the

717
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: chest area. He was totally fine. Ankles were fine. But yes,

718
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: the game first jam Johnson, the game for Spencer Jones

719
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: of the series so far, Antias Jones coming through, Jonas

720
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: Valanciunas's most minutes of the he will fight Jaden McDaniels,

721
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 2: no problem, they got into it. But I love it.

722
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: I love this Jaden McDaniels feud going on the thing

723
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: that he can't do. Jane McDaniels can't go to the

724
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: bench two minutes into this game, ninety four left in

725
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: the first quarter, he's got to go to the bench

726
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: because he pushed off with his arm. Dumbfoul. You're already thin,

727
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: you don't have a starting back word. You just can't

728
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: do that. So here comes TJ. Shannon, Terrence Shannon to

729
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: help out. They're asking a lot either way. The Nuggets

730
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: won a game, nothing to be super excited about. I

731
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't quite yet. I think Minnesota still

732
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: has it together. I do like the moves of going

733
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: to Tyas Jones, another ball handler to help out. I

734
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: always thought I should have been the guy that they go

735
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: get at the trade deadline to help out, so they

736
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: it's good, But no, I don't have a lot of faith.

737
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: Well, I have a little bit of faith because I

738
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: thought that third quarter was really indicative and you could

739
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: really see the flywheel effect that's kind of created by

740
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: the Timberwolves not having their starting back court. They're really

741
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 4: disorganized on offense. They don't know exactly who they should

742
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: be getting the ball to attack, so it either turns

743
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 4: into a turnover, which they had twenty five of them

744
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: last night, or a long miss which then ignites the

745
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 4: Denver fast break. Denver scored thirty five points off of turnovers.

746
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 4: They had twenty three points in the fast break. That's

747
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: how you get the best games from Cam Johnson just

748
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 4: running down the court, nobody stepping in front of them,

749
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: getting easy dunk, Spencer Jones getting wide open threes as

750
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: the defense collapses and he just trails into a good look.

751
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: That then limits Minnesota's quick attack because they have to

752
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 4: take the ball out of the hoop and then they're

753
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: just back to playing disorganized offense, turning the ball over

754
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: and getting it ran down the other way. Denver definitely

755
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 4: played with urgency, like they played the hardest they have

756
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: at least since Game one. They played the fastest they have,

757
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: They scored the most easily they had, and we know

758
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: that they're not getting the backcourt back for the Timberwolves,

759
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: so I think it's at least encouraging for the Nuggets.

760
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: You could definitely look at this game and see the

761
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 4: way that the Timberwolves played and say they're just packing

762
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: it in. They want to take care of business at home. Yeah,

763
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 4: for Game six, there was definitely that sort of vibe.

764
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: I thought with McDaniel's filing so easily early and kind

765
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 4: of like just not having the mindset that he needs

766
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 4: to step his game up with two guys going down.

767
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 4: But I do think it was a little bit worrying

768
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: for the Timberwolves that they look so bad offensively that

769
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: it made Denver scoring pretty easy.

770
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: I do like the sign though the Timberwolves did make

771
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: it an eleven point deficit even though they were down

772
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: twenty seven in the fourth quarter. They could have easily

773
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: packed it in and said, we're going back home. A Rod,

774
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: get the plane, man, We're going home to try and

775
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 2: win this thing. A Rod court side, get involved once

776
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: those calls happening. But I do like the fact that

777
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: I did fight. I do like the fact that even

778
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: though they had twenty five turnovers, they reduced him a

779
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: little bit in the sum hash. It was fourteen in

780
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: the first half. So yeah, ideally that's the worry watching

781
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: this team. They rely so much on it and then

782
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: Dante to let it go beside him. How can they

783
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: fix where they go? And I thought Spenser Jones did

784
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: a good job of taking away Julis Randall as much

785
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: as possible. Jayden wasn't that great but I do think

786
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: the way they fought until the end, until that flight

787
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: gets loaded and they're going home, I do think that's

788
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: totally fine for them to give up a game.

789
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: And you could see from the start here Denver intent

790
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: on making Yokich get touches and score right away or

791
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: get involved right away. And I thought he was just

792
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: quicker with all his decision making and his offensive actions.

793
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: The ball would go to him and he make his

794
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: move right away. So many times you see Yo kitchen.

795
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: That's fine because he's incredible at it, get it survey

796
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: survey guys are running around all that, but he's like

797
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: as it was touched his hands, especially to start this game,

798
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: he was spinning right away and looking to score. Happened

799
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: like three times right away on this game. So Gobert

800
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: struggled in this one with them. You knew y'll Kicch,

801
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: like we said, was putting up monster numbers all series long,

802
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: but this was like his I thought, best game in

803
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: terms of his touch and his control. Got a few

804
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: how many threes did he get to drop? Just won

805
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: in the end last night? Okay, but oh that was

806
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: the one right before the end of the half.

807
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, wild one.

808
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, but yeah, this is interesting. It feels like,

809
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like a fee a small part

810
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: of me. Things like whatever happens in game six will

811
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: determine the series. Obviously the Wolves closed it out at

812
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: home or I like them as chances in a game seven. Yes,

813
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: back in their barn. But they have a bit of

814
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: a break here, I think too.

815
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: In this maybe it's Thursday.

816
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: Thursday would be three days, so I think it's Thursday.

817
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: It is okay, so everybody gets to rest up a

818
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: little bit. How about Yokics trolling at the end of

819
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: the game to be funny, I guess he sort of

820
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: He handed the ball to Baron Jay and then tried

821
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: to snatch it back right away, and then it was

822
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: called the jrump ball. Yep, very weird. Yep is so confused,

823
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: if you want to do he has no idea what's

824
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: going on? What is going on here?

825
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

826
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: What was this guy thinking? But I think he's just

827
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: trolling as simple as that steal.

828
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: That's the rivalry. Man.

829
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 4: He's trying to reset the shot clock, right because there's

830
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 4: like twenty seconds left or something like that, So he's

831
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 4: trying to hand it in and take it right back

832
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: and then game over really yea, or just like you know,

833
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: take the turnover. Yeah, the shot clock violation not a

834
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 4: turnover for you.

835
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: No.

836
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: So a team has come back from a three to

837
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: one deficit to win a series five times since twenty fifteen.

838
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Denver's done it twice over that span, both times in

839
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: the Bubble, both bubbs down three to one. But they've

840
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: done it before, so try and do it again here.

841
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, obviously it starts with Yoka Chi Murray in

842
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: that two man game and then got to get some

843
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: help from these other guys and hit some shots and

844
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: it was Spencer Jones. Funny tweet from Luca Evans I

845
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: saw last night when Spencer Jones was going off. Spencer

846
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: owns is going to go on LinkedIn tonight and write

847
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: what's spacing the floor in Aaron Gordon spot taught me

848
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: about business to business sales as he you know, melds

849
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: his two worlds together, the business side and the hoop side.

850
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: That made me laugh. Good tweet, Luca. But we'll see

851
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: if he's got another Does he have another gam where

852
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: he scores twenty points in him? Eh? Me, I guess

853
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: the guy can shoot. He had a good season. All

854
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: All regularly, he's got.

855
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 2: The most threes in Stanford history. Uh yeah, good, a

856
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: good shooter. And I think why they were so good

857
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: offensively him Cam Johnson was because they pushed it Defensively,

858
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: they had the most bounced in their step in this series.

859
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: They're doubling, They're pushing every ball action out there. So

860
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: I just think home court will help out for the

861
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: Minnesota Timbles and offensively for them. They splashed seven threes

862
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: in the first quarter. They hit over fifty percent of

863
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: their shots, and there's still some fight level. You know.

864
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: They hit more threes than than somehow than the Nugget

865
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: in this game. So I'm not too concerned about them

866
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: going home. We'll see if they still have it.

867
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to be. They have to keep Randall involved.

868
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: Like he was really good in the first quarter. He

869
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 4: was pretty good at the end of the third quarter

870
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: into the fourth, but I feel like he disappeared in

871
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: the middle of the game. He needs to have the

872
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 4: ball almost every single time. Bringing it up, I didn't

873
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 4: think McDaniels had a very good offensive game. Being elevated

874
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: in the pecking order, like he's maybe the number four

875
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: option on that starting lineup when they're playing fully healthy,

876
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: and he was kind of number two for him last

877
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 4: night and that wasn't working. I would definitely give Terrence

878
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: Shannon Junior another opportunity. He was really had a lot

879
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: of energy. Uh and the size he brings on the wing,

880
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: the athleticism are things that are going to be problems

881
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: for the Nuggets bench. So I would give him a

882
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: shot as well. But like if Valanchutnus comes on the court,

883
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 4: you gotta playhim off the court immediately. Like he scored

884
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: six straight that was a problem for Minnesota. But get

885
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: him in a pick and roll with Nazrid, make him

886
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: move his feet out there and see if he can

887
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: do anything. So I don't know. Game six should be exciting, though, Yeah, yeah,

888
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: because the Nuggets finally looked like the Nuggets and its

889
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: home court advantage. We can actually take care of business here.

890
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 4: For the timber Wolves, we'll see.

891
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: And I guess I glossed over it. I mean I

892
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: talked about obviously the Wolves missing their backcourt, but there

893
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: was no Aaron Gordon in this game. Yeah, you know,

894
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: he's out there in his leather jacket sitting court side,

895
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: and of course no Peyton Watson still in this series too,

896
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: so they are short on there, especially their defensive minded

897
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: guys on the wing. So well, you know, a series

898
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: of attrition here to some extent.

899
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: You said leather jacket. Also, Jared Jackson Junior was also

900
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: wearing a leather jacket. Was it Austin Rivers calling it

901
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: a Michael Jackson leather jest?

902
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: Yes, he did like that reference. Yeah, okay, you know,

903
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: the movie's out. I guess maybe he just saw it.

904
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: He did say it was out. He didn't say if

905
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 4: he saw it. He didn't remember, but he saw commercials.

906
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: He's Reseda.

907
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: It is Michael not getting great reviews from critics, but

908
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: apparently the fans don't mind it. Hey, do you like

909
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson songs that you might like this movie? And

910
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: it's his isn't his nephew playing? Apparently he's incredible as them?

911
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 2: Wow?

912
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah thirty eight percent critics, Rotten Tomatoes, ninety seven percent

913
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: audiences They like Michael Jackson song? Wow?

914
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? What about his family? His family probably gave

915
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: it a ninety nine point nine say. I think that's

916
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: what it comes down to.

917
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: Maybe anything else from that one.

918
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I've the hilarious Rudy Gobert going trying to

919
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: go through his legs and hitting his crotch on the

920
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: bounce pass in the first card Man. That's funny, I think.

921
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: I think big men have to stop trying to get

922
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: fancy in the playoffs.

923
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: We forgot about Jail and Duran trying he threw behind

924
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: the back pass.

925
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he screwed up.

926
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing it?

927
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't, they can't, They can't do it. They

928
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: just shouldn't do it. There should be a rule going

929
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. I guess. Yeah, but still Rudy Gobert

930
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: tried to do it in Game one, tried to go

931
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: behind his back. Bruce Brown stole it and it was

932
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: a big part of the game in the fourth quarter.

933
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, no fancy fun for big men. They just

934
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: should stop. Yeah, No, it hurt during, it hurt Rudy Gobert.

935
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: I don't really get. Although I thought jonaeonal Chunas was

936
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 2: also out there speaking of big men, was out there

937
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: to potentially fight. He was super calm when he got

938
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: into with Jada McDaniels. J McDaniels also super super calm,

939
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: no fighting, so great sign going forward. I think Jane

940
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: McDaniels will have a better game six because I think and.

941
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: They're just going, guys, let's not turn the ball over

942
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: twenty five times, and we're right in this game. Reduced

943
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: that by ten turnovers, and we have a game here

944
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: and that we feel comfortable we can win. So that'll

945
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: be the number one thing.

946
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Last side note, did you see Rocky the mascot get

947
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: up onto that second ladder a.

948
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Ladder on a ladder ladder on the ladder, you're right.

949
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: And throw it back like sixty I don't know, Like

950
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: he's sixty feet up is what I'm trying to say,

951
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: and then throws it over his head a reverse shot

952
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: like you know from mid court. It's nice, pretty pretty credible.

953
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: I like that.

954
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a crazy ladder set up he's got going on.

955
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the ladder comes out from the middle

956
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: of the base ladder just yeah. And then he walks

957
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: on walks up on a ladder like he's uh that

958
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: guy who does the chairs.

959
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: Amazing slad deck or something like the scariest halftime act

960
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: there is the only one you watch where you're like,

961
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: this guy could die. Yeah, he might lose it.

962
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he never does, so nod.

963
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I hope I'm there. I hope I'm

964
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: there to witness it all right. Also, they did they

965
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: were doing some McDaniels sucks chance Yeah, hard one to cheer, Yeah,

966
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: hard to fit. Mcd angels sucks. Yeah, didn't sound great,

967
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: But you know, I did think it had an effect

968
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 4: on him. She's an emotional guy. I feel like you

969
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: can maybe get under a skin.

970
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: He said he loved He said he loved it. Of

971
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: course I believe it, which I mean, guy of his level.

972
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: You know that makes sense too for him to get

973
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: that that hate from an opposing crowd. I mean you

974
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: sort of made it in a way. Yeah, exactly, done

975
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: something to get their attention.

976
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: I think he's been pretty calm, Like he was on

977
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: Joe Malmurray's back that one time. It was totally calm.

978
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: But they should do it McDaniel sucks.

979
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way to go. Yeah, come on, Okay,

980
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: well we might get another opportunity if it gets back

981
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: for game set.

982
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: That's true.

983
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: Okay, See got the Brooms out. They swept the Suns

984
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs there with the Game four victory.

985
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Good fight again from Phoenix. Man, they're just just a

986
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: little outclassed when it comes to the talent level, and

987
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Sga was awesome once again. You won't believe how many

988
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: points he scored thirty one points his go to number,

989
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: you had eight assists, chet Holmgren twenty four and twelve. A. J.

990
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: Mitchell stepping into that starting role with no J. Dubb

991
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: twenty two points, six assists. Thought he had a really

992
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: good game. Hartenstein two, eighteen and twelve. So this series went.

993
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Suns lost by thirty five, and then they lost by thirteen,

994
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: Then they lost by twelve, and then they lost by

995
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 1: nine last night. Progress nice, but offirtually all losses. Any

996
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: real takeaways from the thunder sweep in the Suns here.

997
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: This one felt like the first regular season game of

998
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: the playoffs. To me, I don't think Phoenix thought they

999
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: had a chance to win this game. They played okay

1000
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: and okay See gave just a fine effort like this.

1001
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: They didn't need a playoff effort to win, and they

1002
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: did it fine. This was one of okay See's highest

1003
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: scoring games of the season. They scored one hundred and

1004
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: thirty one or more fifteen times all year. They allowed

1005
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty two or more twelve times this year.

1006
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: This was just a we're going to beat you. We

1007
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 4: are a better team and you don't have the dogs

1008
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 4: to keep up with us, especially with the lack of

1009
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 4: Mark Williams, Like you know, he's been out for the

1010
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: entire series and it's had a major effect. Like Chet dominated,

1011
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: like you're saying, twenty four and twelve, Hartenstein had eighteen

1012
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 4: and twelve. Those guys were just beating up the glass

1013
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: the entire night, dunking the entire night. I thought it

1014
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: was pretty interesting to see when Shay goes to the bench,

1015
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: who takes over. It was just Aj Mitchell and Chet

1016
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 4: Holmgren pick and roll every single time, and it worked

1017
00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 4: a lot.

1018
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think great sign for Aj Mitchell that coming

1019
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: off that Game three where he filled in for Jalalen

1020
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Williams shot five point twenty. That's all good to be

1021
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: thrown into this role again and recover and playing way better.

1022
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: And they had won those non shame minutes in Game

1023
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: three by two, but they did way better in this game.

1024
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: So it's just a good, good little thing for a

1025
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: younger guy who hasn't had this prominent role in the

1026
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: playoffs to be able to do this instead of being

1027
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: thrown into it, whether it's round two or round three,

1028
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: to have this these raps where he's.

1029
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: Awesome fun stuff here from our guy Schumann. I don't

1030
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: know if he's here in the chat this morning, but

1031
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: he said there has been at least one first round

1032
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: sweep in each of the last twenty three postseasons, and

1033
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: appropriately it was the defending champ Thunder to keep the

1034
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: streak alive here because they're going to be our only

1035
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: one from this first round to get the sweep. The

1036
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: Thunder scored one hundred and twenty six point nine points

1037
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: per one hundred possessions over the four games. It was

1038
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: a wide margin, their best offensive series of the seven

1039
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: that they've played over the last three years. So they

1040
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: took care of the ball and they gave themselves plenty

1041
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: of second chances. As Schumann noted, but that's pretty crazy

1042
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: like the Thunder we've seen them over the last couple

1043
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: of seasons here in the postseason, obviously going all the

1044
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: way last year. This is their best offensive series against

1045
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: a good defensive team in the Suns. But they're missing

1046
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: some key guys for sure, and look, they put up

1047
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: a fight. No one was picking Phoenix to win this thing.

1048
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: Most people were picking a suite and that's what it

1049
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: was in the end. But besides that Game one blowout,

1050
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: most of the other ones, even that Game four last night,

1051
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: it was fun. When Phoenix took a lead, like in

1052
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: the second quarter. It was like a seven point lead

1053
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: of whoa, Okay, they're being tested a little bit, and

1054
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: guess what, they ate the test because they had the

1055
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: lead back by halftime.

1056
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: M hm, right. I thought they had the fight level

1057
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: to win one game in the series. So I did

1058
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: pick Oksee in five. Thought Boston would be the sweeper

1059
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: in the first round. That didn't happen. Obviously, they like

1060
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: to give away that Game two. I think Okay sees

1061
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: offense yet looked definitely their best playoffs series looked the

1062
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: best in Game four. Oh my god.

1063
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: They shot fifty four percent from the field, fifty from deep,

1064
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: and eighty seven percent of the line where they went

1065
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: twenty six for thirty, So pretty good team numbers.

1066
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Shooting the ball, they shot thirty five percent

1067
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: from three through the first three games. And that's the

1068
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: only way you're going to be able to beat Okay.

1069
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: See if you can hold them to that four out

1070
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: of seven games and because they're not an incredible three

1071
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: point shooting team, that's gonna happen maybe maybe four seven times.

1072
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: But is this route to the finals easier than last season?

1073
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: Now that they've eliminated the Phoenix, Suns will have an

1074
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: injured Lakers or Rockets team, and then they get most

1075
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: likely the Spurs in Round three up against last year,

1076
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: they sweeped the Grizzlies, they had a very healthy Nuggets

1077
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: team that they went to seven games with, and then

1078
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: took on the Timberwolves in round three. So you know,

1079
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,959
Speaker 2: those first three series, it feels like there's a little

1080
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: bit more room for margin than last year, I would say,

1081
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: especially because they're coming off a win of the championship.

1082
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: Right they know they've done it, and they hold themselves

1083
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: that way.

1084
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: It feels like they set themselves up nice for the

1085
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: Spurs in Round three, that's obviously the toughest.

1086
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1087
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: Maybe, And I guess with the Lakers, we did a

1088
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: little news that Austin Reeves might return here for Game five,

1089
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: so they might start to get back to there guys.

1090
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: Obviously different series or a different opponent if Luca and

1091
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Reeds are in the Lakers line up, If that is

1092
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: the team. I mean, the Rockets are going to try

1093
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: and make history here and come back from three to zero.

1094
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: Anything else still on this one or on the Suns,

1095
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: like I said on their season, TK.

1096
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: Is their Is this the best team that Okay has

1097
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: swept in the first round, They've swept the last three

1098
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: first rounds. It's the Suns, it's the Grizzlies last year,

1099
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: and it's the Pelicans the year prior to that. I

1100
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: think I would say the Suns.

1101
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

1102
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were a top ten defensive team all season.

1103
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just thinking the Grizzlies totally fell apart. Yeah,

1104
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: not at the end of last season. They fired their

1105
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: coach before for yeah, right, and then the Pelicans they

1106
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: didn't have Zion I remember that.

1107
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1108
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I remember that Pelican series. They nearly won

1109
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: Game one, the Pelicans did, and everybody was like, going, oh,

1110
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: it's a this is a series. Now, look at the

1111
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: fight they put up and then they still got swept

1112
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: in the end. But it was more Okay, see, you

1113
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: had a garbage game one, Yeah, and obviously you got

1114
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: their footing. Yeah, So I'm with you. I think it

1115
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: is this was an amazing season for the Suns the

1116
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: second most improved defensive team in the league. That's something there.

1117
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: They've got their core is there?

1118
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: Now?

1119
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: You could debate with me and other people like Booker,

1120
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Green, and Brooks, like is that gonna work the

1121
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: three of them together? And they have Colin Gillespie as

1122
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent, Mark Williams restricted free agent, So

1123
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: decisions with those guys. But look, they they got swept

1124
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: the last time, and obviously it was a different scenario

1125
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: because they had a bunch of superstar talent.

1126
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: The more encouraging sweep. Yeah, it is Devin Booker's ten

1127
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 4: straight playoff games. Yeah, and last night was the first

1128
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: night that I noticed he's got a lot of gray hairs.

1129
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: Now, hey's what he's knocking on thirty or is thirty?

1130
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1131
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people are also like he might just

1132
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: have He needs to add a three point shot. He's

1133
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: got to get more of that. And Kenny, the way

1134
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: he shoots, he's such a high jumper on in the

1135
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: mid range. Which you want to do is can you

1136
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: do that from three?

1137
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1138
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: Yes. As far as the way that the Suns look good, sorry,

1139
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: as far as the way the Suns looked in this series.

1140
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: They didn't resemble the team that they had in the

1141
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: regular season because they weren't the same team. I mean

1142
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: Mark Williams not being there, in Jordan Goodwin going down

1143
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: with an injury. They were a really good defensive team

1144
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 2: during the regular season, but they didn't have a couple

1145
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: key parts throughout this so that's a big factor in

1146
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: how they look. But coming into this playoffs, I thought,

1147
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: okay sees route would be tougher because you'd have a

1148
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: fully healthy Suns team compared to last year's Grizzlies team,

1149
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: and then in the second round that they set up

1150
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: themselves pretty well for the Lakers or Rockets. But because

1151
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: of the injuries is different. Now, well, we shall see.

1152
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: We shall see what they're doing around two Austiner, he's

1153
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: come back. I've heard Lucas. What's going on with Luca Nothing.

1154
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's just haven't said anything.

1155
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, biting his fingers, getting injections. But it's definitely it

1156
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 4: feels to me like the Suns could be a pretty

1157
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: regular play in appearance kind of team. I don't know

1158
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: how much higher they can get. And you look at

1159
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: all the teams that finished ahead of them in one

1160
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 4: through six in the Western Conference, and they're all clearly better,

1161
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 4: which is why Phoenix was stuck in seven for four

1162
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 4: straight months. Yeah, and then they played a playoff team

1163
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 4: and they got ran out of the gym. Yeah, and

1164
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 4: they don't have a draft pick. They don't have a

1165
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: draft pick. They have a draft pick next year. They

1166
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 4: get the least favorable draft pick in twenty twenty seven

1167
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: of Utah, Cleveland, and Minnesota. So I mean Cleveland and

1168
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 4: Minnesota should be pretty good in twenty seven. You're looking

1169
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: at pick in the twenties, and they've traded all their

1170
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 4: first round picks twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine,

1171
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: thirty thirty one. They're going to be Pandevin Booker a

1172
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: ridiculous amount of money for a guy that's not going

1173
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: to make an All NBA team. So this was a

1174
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: better season for the Suns, but I think they're looking

1175
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 4: at a lot more seasons like this.

1176
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't set themselves up for the long term

1177
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: all that well. Although the turnaround this year was a

1178
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: completely one eighty complete one eighty from last year. With

1179
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: Gregory taking over in the front office, I questioned his

1180
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: lack of experience in the NBA. He's an NCAA guy.

1181
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: All good. Jordan not comes into the starting head coaching role. Awesome.

1182
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: They look so good coming out of that locker every

1183
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: single night. They play extremely hard. Forty five and thirty seven.

1184
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: Big accomplishment. But because of what they gave up for everybody,

1185
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal, they have set themselves up poorly

1186
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: for the long term here. Unless you got a count

1187
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: in my watch growth year, that's what you're hoping. It's

1188
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: got to be internal because they've got Booker green Brooks.

1189
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: They're still paying Beal, he's the fourth highest paid player

1190
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, Grayson Allen Royce. If they bring back

1191
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: Mark Williams, malwatch their little still paying him. Those guys

1192
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: are all paid through next year. Yeah. So yeah, they

1193
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: don't have really great route at all.

1194
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: So maybe you trade Devin Booker then while you still could.

1195
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't want to leave.

1196
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to leave.

1197
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: You don't want him to leave, I get, but he'd

1198
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: be the one that would reset everything. But maybe they're

1199
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: just happy to be back in the conversation of a

1200
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: seventh seat and stuff like that and actually playing competitive basketball.

1201
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: They did a whole reset, and they had to and

1202
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: they did it well. We're being honest, like a lot

1203
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: of people didn't have winning thirty plus games, and they

1204
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: exceeded that and at least, uh, you know, got into.

1205
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 4: The actual postseason, so thirty one and a half.

1206
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and a lot a lot of people went

1207
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: on knowing that, thinking they'd be one of the worst

1208
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: teams in the West. Yeah, all right, let's take a

1209
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1228
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1229
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: Team live on YouTube right now. First one, Cooper Flag

1230
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: was named NBA Rookie of the Year on Monday, narrowly

1231
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: defeating his former Duke teammate Conka Nipple for the honor.

1232
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: Flag edged Canipple by twenty six points in the voting

1233
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: by a panel of one hundred media members. So Flag

1234
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: received fifty six first place votes, with the rest of

1235
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: the first place votes forty four going to con seventy

1236
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: six ers. Guard VJ. Edgecombe placed third. Twenty six point

1237
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: voting gap very close tasks second smallest between the top

1238
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: finishers in a Rookie of the Year race since the

1239
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: current voting format began in two three. The only race

1240
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: that was tighter Scottie Barnes and Evan. Yeah, that one

1241
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: was something like fifteen points, so twenty six points. We

1242
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be one of the other It

1243
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: sort of was Konk Nipples rook of the air for

1244
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: a majority of the year. Yeah, Cooper popped off at

1245
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: the end of the season. kN did struggle at the

1246
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: end of the regular season and then he had some

1247
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: rough playing games that you were not supposed to take

1248
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: into consideration, but maybe they did some of the voters.

1249
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, But what are your thoughts thumbs up

1250
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: or down on Cooper winning Rookie of the Year over

1251
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: over con Hey.

1252
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: I would have picked conkinemp okay, but Cooper flag and

1253
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: fighting through all the adversity they had to go through.

1254
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: It's a huge thumbs up. When you said it was

1255
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: the second closest voting, I thought it was definitely Malcolm

1256
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: Brogden over Joel Embiid.

1257
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: And Dario Sarich for the second.

1258
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so. I just thought it was the

1259
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: voter saying, hey, giving it to Coop in part, I

1260
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: don't want to be Malcolm Brogden over Joel Embid. I

1261
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: don't want to be in a Mecca okafor over Dwight

1262
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: Howard and Ben Gordon who actually finished second awesome year

1263
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: or Tyreek Evans over steph Curry. Tyrek Evans had the

1264
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: better year. Yeah, so why can Cohn, who had the

1265
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: better year be the guy that they voted.

1266
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: Sounds like your thumbs down on Yeah, that's fun difficult.

1267
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who I would have voted for.

1268
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 4: I think conn had a better year. I think he

1269
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 4: was on better team.

1270
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: He was on a better team. Job. LaMelo was out

1271
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: for a good chunk to start this season, and he

1272
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: was awesome. I think that's why they turned around so quickly.

1273
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: LaMelo was either out or he just wasn't himself. He

1274
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: wasn't playing to that capability when they stunk. I think

1275
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: he was a big reason why they did that, and

1276
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: they were able to turn it around, unlike what happened

1277
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: in Dallas, where they weren't able to turn it around

1278
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: at all. So yeah, I'm anointing him as a reason

1279
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: why Charlotte was able to come out and be a

1280
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: different team. And maybe that's just me being naive, but

1281
00:59:54,240 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: I think his consistency eighty one games out of eighty two, Yeah,

1282
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: the way he played from opening the opening game, but

1283
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: a better role because in the opening game and the

1284
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: opening weeks, Cooper was playing point guard when he should

1285
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: have been playing point guard, while Con was in that

1286
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: perfection of a role playing off the ball, so very different.

1287
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 4: I think they got it right on this one, and

1288
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 4: I do think there is a little bit of forecasting

1289
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: with this where we're like, oh, Cooper Flag's going to

1290
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 4: be a superstar. Yeah, give him his Rookie of the Year.

1291
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: But he also was on two Michael Jordan lists. Only Bird, MJ,

1292
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: Luca and now Cooper Flagg averaged twenty six rebounds in forressists.

1293
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: But I was like, wait a second, what about Lebron?

1294
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: Of course he was famous for twenty five and five,

1295
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: which Tyreek Evans did as well. You got to hit

1296
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: the glass, Lebron, That's what I'm always saying. Nobody talks

1297
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: about his rebounding. And then of course MJ and Cooper

1298
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: Flag the only rookies to lead their team in points, rebounds, assists,

1299
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 4: and steals. Cooper the clear number one guy for the

1300
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 4: Mavericks as well. He had a bigger responsibility I think

1301
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 4: than Con did. I think Con. I think, you know,

1302
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's been people who maybe like a worldwide

1303
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 4: Bobby does his leader board thing and it changes.

1304
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: Right.

1305
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 4: It's like we had Cooper flag for the first he

1306
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 4: probably wasn't. It was probably a VJ Edgecumb at the

1307
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 4: beginning of the season. Then it was Wipper flag, then

1308
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 4: it was Conk Nipple when Cooper was out and the

1309
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: Hornets were firing up, and then it was Cooper at

1310
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 4: the end of the season when he came back and

1311
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 4: started like having to get back in the race, having

1312
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 4: to get back at Cohn putting up forty point games,

1313
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 4: fifty point games. So I think ultimately this is the

1314
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: right choice. But you know, if you did this vote

1315
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: the first week of April, it would have been con

1316
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: for sure. M hm.

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01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think if you had flipped the months

1318
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: where kan K Nipple had his worst month of shooting

1319
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: the ball, which was at the end here when we're

1320
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: getting closer to obviously voting on the thing, if that

1321
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: was the first month and not the last month, maybe

1322
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: he's the one with fifty six votes to forty four.

1323
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: But the same thing can be said for Cooper, who

1324
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: had great timing with this. I'm sorry he did. He

1325
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: had monster games at the end of the year. He

1326
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: was scoring fifty he was scoring forty, he was having

1327
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: huge games, and I'm with you, Trey. I said this

1328
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: weeks ago, right, this idea of like I think some

1329
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: of the voters want to do the forecasting where ten

1330
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: years from now they go, ha, we got it right.

1331
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: We went Cooper because guess what, I think Cooper's going

1332
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: to be the better player of the two. When it's

1333
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: all said, no, that doesn't mean Kankinipple is not going

1334
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: to be a multiple time All Star, all time multiple

1335
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: time all NBA player. That's not that that means. It's

1336
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: just Cooper's going to have more accolades and looks like

1337
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: the real deal at nineteen.

1338
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, voters don't don't want to get the hate. They

1339
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: don't want to be a Broggen over Embeid or a

1340
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: Tiger Gavans over Curry. They don't want that anymore. It's

1341
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: that's change I think happened.

1342
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: But to finish it, though, like they were like they

1343
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: were almost waiting right because it was like, sorry, it

1344
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: probably Conkinipple is deserving of it. For months of it

1345
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: of the season, and then when especially Cooper came back

1346
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: from the injury and started putting up the monster monster numbers.

1347
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: It's like, ah, thank you, thank God, what we felt

1348
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: in our gut was right. We're not going to look

1349
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: silly now because of these huge, huge numbers. They're both deserving.

1350
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: The number one comment that makes me laugh though, and

1351
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: someone's like, should have been a tie, they should both win.

1352
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you're not, okay, I know what you're saying.

1353
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: You are saying they both had very deserving seasons to

1354
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: win Rookie of the Year. It's not how the voting works.

1355
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: You can't get to say I would like to split

1356
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: my vote between two guys, and you can't call up

1357
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: the other. You can't collude with the other ninety nine

1358
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: media members that are voting and say, okay, okay, you

1359
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: guys go. You guys go fifty on Cooper. Okay, okay,

1360
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: you guys go fifty on con This is not a

1361
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: survivor vote here, okay. Or you're trying to eliminate somebody

1362
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: and flush an idol. Does DJ have an idol? I

1363
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: don't know, Okay, we know what you're saying. Well, that's

1364
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: not how it works, man. If it happens, it happens,

1365
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: and they're both deserving, but you got to pick one.

1366
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: When you're doing the actual ballot.

1367
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And as we.

1368
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: Said, you when you filled out your ballot, you would

1369
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: await con when you fill out your ballet, you would

1370
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: wait Cooper.

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01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: And that's fine, yeah yeah, And part of it is

1372
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: probably tied to what you just said about voters who

1373
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: want to be right. And I made the prediction and

1374
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 2: New Year's when we made our bold productions, I said,

1375
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: Conkor Nipple's winning this thing, and he had a really

1376
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: good January, and it was we're Coaston and Cooper what

1377
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: had that struggle four games until he dropped forty nine,

1378
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: was injured, and then had even better games to finish

1379
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: the season. So I understand, I understand wanted to vote

1380
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: for Coop because in the long term Cooper Flag will

1381
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: be the guy from this rookie class that is their

1382
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: best player.

1383
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: Which appears to be a damn good rookie class because

1384
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: of VJ. Edgecombe and Dylan Harper are like, you know

1385
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: whatever two through four, and then of course Cedric Coward

1386
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: even like it looks good like obviously some superstar talent here.

1387
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: As we move forward, all right, next one here, Miami

1388
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: Heat president pat Riley made it clear that he is

1389
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: not retiring or resigning and that he remains as committed

1390
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: as ever to leading the franchise to its fourth NBA championship.

1391
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: Riley vowed that he will never change his approach, saying

1392
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: his only focus is on winning and improving the Heat

1393
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: and that he will never tank for assets. He had

1394
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: leut to say about Bam Too, basically saying, by the way,

1395
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: we're not training Bam out of BYO, so don't ask

1396
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: me unless it's for eight draft picks and one.

1397
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1398
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 4: I would do that too.

1399
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's smart, that's smart.

1400
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: Open.

1401
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: But up or down here? H t k on on

1402
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: Pat Riley saying, you know what, I'm not leaving.

1403
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 4: I do like it.

1404
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving. I do like it.

1405
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 4: Eighty show goes on.

1406
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: This is my home. Sorry yeah, well he slicked back

1407
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: to it's sort of good, right Yeah yeah yeah, yeah,

1408
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean I need a fucking wrecking ball to get

1409
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: me out of here. Riley doing that would have been amazing.

1410
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 4: I think he can still yell no, but he could

1411
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: do this, Yeah, I guess something.

1412
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: Sorry, up and down on Pat still being love.

1413
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: Probably he would have shared that Wolf of Wall Streets.

1414
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 4: Did they check his Instagram? Maybe?

1415
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1416
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 4: But uh, I mean interesting. I think he says, I'm

1417
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: not changing my approach. That basically just means I'm not

1418
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 4: gonna tank. That makes sense to be the dude's eighty

1419
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 4: one years old. He doesn't want to have his last however,

1420
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: many years as a losing team he's He's even like, yeah,

1421
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 4: it's true, I'm aging up. I'm eighty one, that's aging up.

1422
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 4: I have to agree with him here, but maybe you should.

1423
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: They should change their approach a little bit, you know,

1424
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 4: like get some better players, try not to be in

1425
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 4: the play in tournament once again. And I think the

1426
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 4: reason all the Bam stuff comes up is because, like

1427
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: BAM's a great player, second greatest scorer in the history

1428
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 4: of the NBA. But if you're gonna make a real

1429
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 4: impact move acquiring a Jana Santa to compo Bam basically

1430
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 4: has to be in the trade from an alluring asset standpoint,

1431
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 4: from a contract standpoint, like you would have to trade Bam.

1432
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 4: But as we know, he's like the figurehead of Heat

1433
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 4: culture for the team right now, So makes sense to

1434
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 4: me that And I think good to hear if you're

1435
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 4: a Heat fan that, like, you don't want your team

1436
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 4: to tank, it sucks It sucks when your team tanks,

1437
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: and you don't want their franchise cornerstones to be traded either,

1438
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 4: So you're saying, don't worry about it, our guys are

1439
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 4: coming back. We got a lot of other things to

1440
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 4: figure out, and he does got a lot of.

1441
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: It, and they do. They have a lottery pick for

1442
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time twenty eighteen. They

1443
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: have Norman Powell will be a free agent. Decisions with him.

1444
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: You've got Tyler Hero, Jaime Hawkes junior eligible for extensions,

1445
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: and then Andrew Wiggins has a player option for thirty

1446
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: point two millions. So that's obviously up to Andrew Wiggins

1447
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: a little bit here, but there are decisions and they

1448
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: need to get better. And he did the whole thing like,

1449
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: I could sit here and give you a bunch of excuses,

1450
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: but we don't do that, and we weren't good enough

1451
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: and we're not happy about it. And he said something like,

1452
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: this is the first time over this last little stretch

1453
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: where we have the opportunity to try and improve our

1454
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: roster and make some moves with the flexibility and all that.

1455
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think he left that open. I think

1456
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: that's what is going to be happening around bam Adebaye.

1457
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: I think the idea is he doesn't want to trade Bam,

1458
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: and I think he's true to that, although I do

1459
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: like him being totally open and saying, okay, I give

1460
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: him up for but that's about it.

1461
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 4: I think it's a tampering fine that would be hilarious.

1462
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 4: He can't name other teams players, But.

1463
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: I think he does have room to retool around Bam.

1464
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: As you said, you went through all the potential moves.

1465
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: He was clear. I don't want to use the word clear,

1466
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: but he did say Hero needs to be healthy next year.

1467
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: He wasn't healthy this year. He underwent a procedure. He

1468
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: just went on a preemptive procedure that he'll be back

1469
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: for for next season. So I think there's lots of room. Finally,

1470
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: that Weggans deal is coming up sort of. I guess

1471
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 2: it's a player option. It's been a long time coming.

1472
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I guess a new

1473
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: deal unless I think that's more likely. Unless this is yeah,

1474
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: you're getting you on three sixty. Okay, now I'm negotiating,

1475
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: but yeah, if he's getting longer term deal, then he'll

1476
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: stick around. Dry Rose ears off the books, although going

1477
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: through additional issues off the floors and some new stuff

1478
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: happening around. But pat Riley ain't changing. He's just not.

1479
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: He's remember a few years ago and he said to

1480
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: a reporter, I'm seventy seven years old and I can

1481
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: do more push ups than you. Guy's not going to

1482
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: give up. He's never going to give up. And that's

1483
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 2: what you like about pat Riley. But again, there's some

1484
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: retooling options here.

1485
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: Final one, the league and its general managers will discuss

1486
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: methods to curb tanking today on zoom. That's what they're saying.

1487
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that they don't have their own meeting service.

1488
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: No, nothing wrong with soon. They all pay for it,

1489
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: got the premium version.

1490
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure even the Blazers.

1491
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 1: He's like, can we wrap this up on my zoom

1492
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: to log off here? I didn't pay for the service.

1493
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: While the NBA has presented a few proposals aimed at

1494
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: changing the lottery, the heavy front runner reportedly involves a

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Speaker 1: draft lottery that will feature eighteen teams and altered odds.

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Speaker 1: This is according to Sam Amic at The Athletic So

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Speaker 1: in that option, just to refresh your memory, eighteen teams

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Speaker 1: would be part of the draft lottery rather than the

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Speaker 1: current fourteen, and the bottom ten teams would all have

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Speaker 1: an eight percent chance of landing the number one pick,

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Speaker 1: So you're flattening the odds for the bottom ten teams.

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01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: The remaining odds twenty percent in total, would be divided

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Speaker 1: among the remaining eight teams. That's how you get to

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Speaker 1: the eighteen teams. But we're talking about teams that are

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: like in the plan and stuff like that. Are you

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01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: up or down on this being the front runner here

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01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: for this draft reform? I know we've talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done. I'd rather have that idea of the

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: two year average of your record in determining where you

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Speaker 2: are in the draft lottery. Because of two years, I

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Speaker 2: understand why every owner is up because you can still tank.

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Speaker 2: You can still tank in this format and still be

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01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: bad for a year. Tom Dundon, I'm sure he's excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody's.

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Speaker 1: Although, isn't the point of this too fixed tanking? Why

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Speaker 1: I'm with you?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know it's not. It's not. It's not

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: going to change anything. Why wouldn't it a team in

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01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: front off and say you know, eight percent chance. That's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here, here, let's just lay this out. Moving to

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: an eighteen team lottery wouldn't completely solve the tanking issue,

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01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: which we've said is very tough to completely solve, but

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Speaker 1: the idea is to disincentivize the league's worst teams, the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the bottom teams from losing on purpose by

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: keeping them in contention for top oots, because it's going

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Speaker 1: to like change nothing, right, you're going to have that

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Speaker 1: percentage eight percent. The counter argument, though, and sort of

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: what you're alluding here to to us, is like, doesn't

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01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: this give more teams a shot at the number one pick?

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: And maybe your move being like the tanking from the

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01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: bottom of the league potentially to the middle of the

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01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: league now, because teams could be making a calculat decision

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01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: on like well, we're just gonna get waxed in the

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: play in here, I mean, why don't we you know,

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01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: or getting into the playoffs will get crushed. So let's

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01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: just hang back here and give ourselves a whatever two point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why. The other the other possible, the other

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01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: option of a team getting their record from the past

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: two years determining as the determinant of where you are in.

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Speaker 2: The draft lottery makes way more sense because teams can't say, hey,

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01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: we're going to suck for two years to their fans,

1542
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: but they can say we're gonna suck for thirty games

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01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: for the end of the season to be bad, and

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: I think that's that's way more acceptable for for a

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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: fan base rather than two years. So if you want

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: to get rid of tanking, I think in some way,

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: shape or form, not entirely, because that just doesn't happen

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01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: in this way in the in the idea of getting

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: a draft pick to make you better, I think it's

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: telling everybody you got two years and that'll determine your

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01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: draft lottery odds.

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Speaker 1: Are you up or down on this?

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 4: I think I'm up. I think this was the plan

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01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 4: I like the most was the three. The three that

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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 4: were thrown out, like the two year plan to me,

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01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 4: mostly addresses a team like the Pacers who are just

1557
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 4: going to have a down year, so they completely bottom

1558
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 4: out and try and lose as many games as possible.

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 4: That makes so that doesn't happen as regularly. The double

1560
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 4: lottery didn't ever make any sense to me, because you

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 4: could have the worst record and drop to number ten,

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 4: like that just didn't have any sort of reality to me.

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01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 4: But I think you, Austin Rivers, I think you hit

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01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: on the Headkeets. The worst teams won't be as bad.

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 4: Three teams this year won twenty or fewer games, the Nets,

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 4: the Pacers, and the Wizards. I think those teams win

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01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 4: like twenty four games next year because there is still

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 4: an incentive to tank. Right now, the Bucks have the

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01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: tenth best odds in the draft lottery. They have a

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 4: three percent chance of getting the number one pick. Now

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,480
Speaker 4: you get an eight percent chance. That's a huge upgrade.

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01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 4: So why go into the play in tournament? It will

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 4: be middle tanking rather than bombing. But guess what that means.

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 4: You don't have any disgusting looking records with a one

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 4: in the wind call.

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: But could still have, of course, Shenanigans between seventeen as Yeah, well,

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: which is what Silver is trying to address. The only

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: way he's gonna be able to do that. It's just

1579
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: like like he did with some teams. It was weird

1580
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: who he was picking and choosing to penalize, but it's

1581
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: like you got to come down with the hammer on

1582
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: the franchises that are like blatantly sitting out everybody and

1583
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: really trying to throw games against each other. He did

1584
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: it again for two franchises, and the Jazz and Pacers

1585
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: and everybody else. Those two teams are teams of those

1586
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: fans of those teams were going, what about the other teams? Yep,

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01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,959
Speaker 1: so I'm with them. You're right. There were other blatant

1588
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: tanking shenanigans going on, so you know, if you're gonna

1589
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: do it, do it. But this is the front runner

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01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: right now. And then, by the way, the order for

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: the league to alter the draft lottery a total of

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01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: twenty in order a total of twenty three or more

1593
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: owners have to vote in favor for adopting the new proposal.

1594
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: And they're not. They're not like they're not doing yeay

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: or nay on zoom today here. You know this is good.

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01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: They're talking it out so they could think, yeah, yeah, sure, sure,

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: what do you think, Tom?

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: Tom?

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: Are you there? Tom? You're a cat that clip judge

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01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: or judge you can't turn off the filter. He's a cat.

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: That's good.

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01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: Which GM do you think it's most likely to accidentally

1603
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 4: have their filters turned on and.

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: Be a cat? Wow?

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01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: Great question, Cat.

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 4: Stevens No, it's in a singer.

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: I thought that cat Croachey if he was still a cat.

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01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: It's going to be somebody young, somebody young, somebody young

1611
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: who has kids, who's like, this kid has come over

1612
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: and been like, let me do this and turn it on.

1613
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: They can't turn it.

1614
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: I would think it was the oldest, oldest guy whose

1615
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: grand kids has been playing on the computer and the

1616
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: old guy doesn't even know how to operate Zoom. That's great, ye,

1617
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: the cwner though, I don't know. I don't know the

1618
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: old the oldest son, an old GM, he's old g Yeah,

1619
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: but we're Talkingrison, Nicky Rrison. He's on the cruise ship somewhere.

1620
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: You think he's got good Wi Fi for Zoo. He's

1621
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: the choppy one. He's like, goes to talk and everybody

1622
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: stops the crap.

1623
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 4: You think Steve Balmer's in this Zoom meeting saying, guys,

1624
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 4: you want to hop on Microsoft teams?

1625
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this doesn't work.

1626
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 4: Well, we've great features over there.

1627
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: The toilets we have on Microsoft teams. Okay, let's go

1628
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: to one boy. That was the updown report. Thanks for

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01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 1: playing along well, but I have the night sponsored by

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Speaker 1: the COVID days. I do recall so that website we're

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Speaker 1: going to have in the show notes. If you want

1639
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: to help out Hootski and obviously this great foundation, the

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Speaker 1: We'll get that there. If it's not there, already probably

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Speaker 1: already there.

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: Maybe it's almost there.

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: I swear so, because every time I say we'll get

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01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: it there, you come back with it's a already there.

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01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: And now the one time I'm like, it's probably there,

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Speaker 1: we'll get it, Well, today I give up.

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: Today. I wanted to looking at the camera and not

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01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: drop it in. I just wanted to look at that

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: camera and not do this.

1651
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: Why don't we just put it in before the show.

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 2: Well, you never know. You never know when you're in there.

1653
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: When I'm in there this morning, you go to me today. Hey,

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Speaker 2: the the actual the time codes from yesterday, from yesterday

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Speaker 2: show aren't there. I just noticed they were there. Of

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Speaker 2: course they were there there, But because we were in

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Speaker 2: the same time, I got deleted, so I had to

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: go back.

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Speaker 1: But that would have happened. That would have happened yesterday, Broly, Yeah,

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01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: when we were both in there pulling back the curtain

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01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: here right, mm hmmm crazy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's in there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good. Kelsey's Hope Foundation dot com for all you

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01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: podcast listeners, JD. Make sure that link is in the

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: show notes from the podcast page if you could. Is

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Speaker 1: it already there? Okay, it's of course it's not. The

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01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: show is not even posted yet. That was a trick question.

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad.

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01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you nearly.

1670
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: Well, but.

1671
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: There's the music. Jokicic his twenty third career playoff triple double,

1672
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: racking up game high twenty seven points, twelve rebounds, sixteen

1673
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: assists as the nugget serve shot nine to fifteen from

1674
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: the field, eight to ten at the line. The guys

1675
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: told me he hit won three. I thought it was two,

1676
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: but they said one. I believe you guys. He blot

1677
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: two shots though in thirty eight minutes.

1678
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: Didn't want dunk.

1679
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: He did a dunk that was big.

1680
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one handhold when he hit that three point

1681
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: shot going into half, there was a quick handhold, thought

1682
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: three dy Gobert.

1683
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah nice, and then one attempt at a steal.

1684
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: I guess yeah.

1685
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 4: Game. It didn't go down as a turnover for him.

1686
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: No, it was interesting to jump ball. Yeah, it's a

1687
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: jump ball. That's what they did. They called that two seconds. Yeah,

1688
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: jumped U up and you won't believe this. Ki didn't

1689
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: jump no way man, no, no. Speaking of jump balls,

1690
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: where's all the wedgies? Yeah, good question.

1691
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 4: I seeing a weggie.

1692
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: We got zero edgies in the postseason, zero edges in

1693
01:19:59,400 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: the playing game.

1694
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: It's bad.

1695
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: We haven't had a weggie since I think the last

1696
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: day of the regular season. I think we got one

1697
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: on that Sunday, Yeah, or whatever a day was.

1698
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Sunday. Was it crazy? Crazy that

1699
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: we've had zero drive?

1700
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still at seventy three wedgies. I didn't Yeah,

1701
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to do a post on substack

1702
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: to grade the weggies because there were no edges degrade.

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01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the highest that we've had in the

1704
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: playoffs is six, which is a lot.

1705
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: That's a lot.

1706
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, considering we played eighty to eighty five games, you know,

1707
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: one every whatever, thirteen games, that's that's a good amount.

1708
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: But so far, you know, thirty three games in to

1709
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs zero I did its math. Wow, you're saying.

1710
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: We're one third of the way through roughly.

1711
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: Over over one third. Wow, games wise.

1712
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: That's weird. Isn't that just weird? It's just weird right

1713
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: because we're only not even through the first round. Really

1714
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: front Yeah, one series done, front loaded.

1715
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, there was a year where we only

1716
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: had two in the playoffs. If anyone cares, nobody cares.

1717
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess we're on that trajectory.

1718
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh, don't say that. They come in bunches. It's okay,

1719
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: we're getting a weggie tonight. We've talked about it, we

1720
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: never addressed it. I'm glad you brought it up. The

1721
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: Edgi gods have heard us desben Ban style. We pray

1722
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: get no, we remember wedgies. Let's get to some Uh,

1723
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: let's get okay, I wanted eighty, but it sounds like

1724
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: eighty wedgies ain't happening.

1725
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 4: Now.

1726
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: I'll take seventy five weggies at this point because that's

1727
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,440
Speaker 1: a nice number. Well, okay, what number would you prefer? Weggies?

1728
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: Let's say we can't get to eighty. Do you want

1729
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: seventy three, seventy four, seventy five, seventy six, seventy seven,

1730
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: seventy eight, or seventy nine wedgies? Which one do you

1731
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: think would just be the nicest sounding number for you? TK?

1732
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: You go first? I want Wait, I want seventy nine wedgies.

1733
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: You want the most? Basically, I guess. I guess. So

1734
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: you like that.

1735
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 4: No, I'm having a tough time figuring out what number

1736
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 4: season this is of the NBA. The seventy fifth anniversary

1737
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 4: season is twenty one twenty two, and I think would

1738
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 4: be nice to have them matchup.

1739
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 1: That'd be nice.

1740
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 2: It would be nice.

1741
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but good life. That always does my headed too.

1742
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 4: Four more.

1743
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: I think this is our seventy ninth season. Yeah, I

1744
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: think of the NBA.

1745
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and of course including the BAA yes, in the.

1746
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 2: History, who can forget the BAA's in the Knickerbockers.

1747
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: Who can forget the BA?

1748
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 4: I mean that I'd be good for me.

1749
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm rolling with seventy three none. In dedication to Metalworld Piece.

1750
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: He had a seventy three game suspension back when the

1751
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 2: Mouths of the Palace happened. He wore thirty seven, A

1752
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: little flippy of the seventy three. I'm going with seventy three.

1753
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: Hey, I got I mean. This is Wikipedia. It says

1754
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: the twenty five to twenty six NBA season is the

1755
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: eightieth season of the league.

1756
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do some math.

1757
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: That's what it says.

1758
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: I got common. I've gotta make a spreadsheet.

1759
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: So if it started in forty six, that makes sense.

1760
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: It does.

1761
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, forty six to forty seven. I think was

1762
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,919
Speaker 1: the first year, right, I think. I think the Huskies

1763
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: versus the Knickerbockers in Maple Leaf gardens. If you were tall,

1764
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: you got in for free. These are things we all remember,

1765
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: all right. That's how old our show is. We remember

1766
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: the first game they ever played. It's the eighties season.

1767
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: But but I'm telling you we're not getting eighty. He

1768
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: wants seventy nine, You want seventy three. Yeah, I would

1769
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 1: love seventy seven is a fun number.

1770
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: It is.

1771
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever forget that number. Jamison Battle, Yeah,

1772
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: more than Luca. Yes, all right, we'll call it there.

1773
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: Did I give you Yo Kach's line? Yeah? I did, good,

1774
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: good good.

1775
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring in I'm going to bring in

1776
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: the court from the first season tomorrow. I have I

1777
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: have a court.

1778
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: You're talking about it more than anyone I know.

1779
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: I've never talked about.

1780
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: You've showed it twice on this show.

1781
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 2: Well, if you were looking, my friend, it wasn't from

1782
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: the court from the first season. That was from the

1783
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 2: first season.

1784
01:23:54,600 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: Dude, Okay, you love courts. What is this France? That's

1785
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. When you show it, you're telling

1786
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: me you got a piece of og Husky's court.

1787
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: Sort of it's crazy sor sort it's wood from a

1788
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: basketball court that's repainted. Yeah, a replica, but it is

1789
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: from an NBA court that's repainted the same thing that

1790
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 2: NBA Canada gave me from the Toronto Raptors first inaugural

1791
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: courts and the Vancouver Christies inaugural court. It was from

1792
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: the twenty twelve NBA All Star game in Los Angeles.

1793
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: They took the floor off the court and they painted.

1794
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 4: Chopping this thing up.

1795
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 2: But there's barely any paint on the forty six season,

1796
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 2: forty six, forty seven.

1797
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 1: It hadn't even invented paint. They just had wood. It

1798
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: just got wood the year before. It's the eighty first

1799
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: anniversary of Wood. Happy Anniversary one, embracing