1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: Everybody is j n V jess hilarious, charlamage, the guy. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 3: in the building, indeed, the legendary Vibes Cartel. Welcome brother, 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: what's up? 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Hello? 8 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: How you feeling? Man? 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: I feel like a million dollars right now? 10 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Man. 11 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 4: Every time I walked through the airport the last two weeks, 12 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 4: everybody there, all the Caribbean people. You got to have 13 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 4: vibes on the Breakfast Club vibes going to be in 14 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 4: Brooklyn on April eleven, if you gotta have them on 15 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 4: the Breakfast on the building. 16 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: All through the streets they knew you were coming, so 17 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: first and foremost. How does it feel to be back 18 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: here and being able to perform? How does that feel? 19 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: What is that feeling like? 20 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a blessing, you know, and it's a 21 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: feeling of accomplishment because you know what I mean this 22 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: is these are the things that we have worked for 23 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: over the years. So to be here now and see 24 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: it actualize itself. Yeah, it feels like an accomplished you 25 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Feeling? 26 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: Yes, you sold out two shows at the ballplay immediately. 27 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: Did you ever did you think it would be like 28 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: that with like takeing places are like seven thousand for seats, 29 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: Like yeah. 30 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Of course. Like I said, I put the work in 31 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: what I mean, So everything is happening to me. I 32 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: deserve it. Man, God is the greatest, you know what 33 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean. We work hard over the years. We built 34 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: a huge catalog, so you know what I mean. The 35 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: music speaks for itself as it relates to Dan Saul 36 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: and for me to represent the culture. So that was 37 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: no surprise. Man, my manager wanted to do a third night. 38 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm forty nine, I'm not that you know 39 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. I know by remember coming from prison, 40 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm sick, you know what I mean. So that's why 41 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: that makes it more of a blessing, you know what 42 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean to know that, you know, I mean coming 43 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: from prison thirteen years, still battling with my illness and 44 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: the love that the people show me. Man, if it's 45 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: not God, I don't know who it is. 46 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: You know, nobody wants to go to prison, but it 47 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: feels like prison made you larger than life. Like just 48 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: from a career, I agree with you. From a career perspective. 49 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: Do you think it preserved your legacy. 50 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: It made it bigger? 51 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, yeah, I think so. I think it did. 52 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: But like I said, everything happens for a purpose, you 53 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And if God has a plan 54 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: for you, he has a plan for you if did 55 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: us work with it. 56 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: So I look at it the opposite way though, because 57 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: I feel like people heard the music but couldn't see 58 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: the face. Like I felt like you would have been 59 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: an even bigger artist because they just couldn't touch you. 60 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Or if I was free, maybe I would have died 61 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: who knows, in a car accident or something. So you 62 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: got to just focus on what is right, you know 63 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's how I live my life. 64 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Like it is what it is. I'm here. I did 65 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: thirteen years, but now I'm here and that's in my 66 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: rear view. 67 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 5: During your time in prison, though you released a lot 68 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 5: of music, How was that managing your career even behind bars? 69 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 6: Like being in. 70 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: There, I mean, like I said, I had to do it. 71 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: That was too easy, man, Like I always try to 72 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: find innovative ways to do what I do, and that 73 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: was just one of them. Like I had to do it. 74 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: People depending on me. I had a family to feed, 75 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: I had my career to maintain, so that's too easy. 76 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 5: And even at we're being sick though that were there 77 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: are times where you just like, man, fuck this. 78 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: No, I couldn't do that. Like I said, I have 79 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: people depending on me, Like I couldn't slack off, you 80 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Envy, you know you got kids, 81 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: You got kids, You can't slack off, man. So for me, 82 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: it was yeah, and my children are a big part 83 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: of my motivation, to my mother as well, and I 84 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: mean just family in general, so I couldn't. I didn't 85 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: have time for self pity or to be like, oh no. 86 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 6: But you were really sick though I was. 87 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: I guess I'm saying like, how did you fight, Like 88 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: just having a strength to fight through that and still 89 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 5: make music in all of that and keep your mental 90 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 5: where it needed to be to really commit to that 91 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: music so you can still be the ViBe's cartel and 92 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 5: deliver where people wanted to hear. 93 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: And now I understand that's a good question too, because 94 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: in Jamaican prison, it's not like American prison. Jamaican prison 95 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: is real dungeon style, you know what I mean. No 96 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: toilets in the cells and crazy work, you know tole No, 97 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: you know how I got toilet in myself? When uh 98 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: Lisa Evers did that piece? Is it the special Yes, 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: that's when they put the toilet, installed the toilet in 100 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: What's Crazy Ship? Did you unintended? 101 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: So what they had you using before? 102 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 103 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: So you can read, but. 104 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: I got you know, you put out so much music. 105 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: People assumed that you had a studio in prison because 106 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: it just the music didn't sound old. They always sound new. 107 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: It always sounds fresh. I mean, somebody passed away and 108 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: you be talking about him in the song. I'm just joking, 109 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: but you had something. Did you have a studio? 110 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: That's no, I had a phone, the iPhone five s 111 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: that's the that's recorded like the Fever album, Nod, the 112 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: Viking album Yes I Keep You Not? Yeah, Man, five 113 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: as and a mattress and some prisoners looking out. That 114 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: was it. That was it, Man and Determination and God themself. Wow, 115 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: So that's it. Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy work. 116 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: Was there ever any time in that thirteen years, especially 117 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: when you started getting sick, that you was like. 118 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: Man, I don't know, I'm gonna make it out of here. 119 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, there were times I thought that I wouldn't 120 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: make it, but like I still had to put into work. 121 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: I still have to do what I had to do, 122 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it is what it is, 123 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: man Like if I die, at least I die trying. 124 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean, because that's that's just my mindset, you know. 125 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, there were times I was like I even 126 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: talked to my mother. I was like, Mom, she was like, no, 127 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: fight it, man, pray. So yeah, big up to my mother. 128 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: She's a blessing in my life as well. 129 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: And how did you How did you finally get out? 130 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: Because they were fighting to keep you in for a 131 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: long time. 132 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: They weren't. 133 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: They were fighting appeals, anything that you tried. They were 134 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: fighting what was the one thing that says? What was 135 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: that turn? 136 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right they wanted to keep me there forever. 137 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: But I mean I sent when the case went to England, 138 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because the thing is Jamaica, 139 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: and I don't want to There's a lot of people 140 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: in the system in Jamaica that support me as well, 141 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: but the system really just I think they wanted to 142 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: make an example, you know what I mean, out of 143 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: me because the case is clear card. Like I've always 144 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: told my manager and my family. Bro, I'm coming out 145 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: once my case reaches England. I'm out and so said, 146 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: so done because it's an open short case. You messed 147 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: up here, You messed up here. This is wrong, This 148 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: is wrong. Freedom man. 149 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: Have they've apologized or said my bad, sorry anything. 150 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't need apologies, sir, freedom to best the pology 151 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So I'm good man. I'm not looking back. 152 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm not even suing. Hm hmm, yeah, no, I'm not that. 153 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm not even pursuing. So no suing like that. 154 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: Why do you think they wanted to make an example 155 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: of you. 156 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: Because of my influence? You know what I mean? People 157 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: compare Cartel to Bob Marley and then people say, but 158 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: Bob Marley and Carr Hell do two different types of songs. Yes, 159 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: but the influence is the same. That's why you got shot. 160 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: That's why you have to leave your make at one point. 161 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: So that is you know, you know, the Caribbean country 162 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: to a third world country. It's a political charge atmosphere, 163 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: so influential people that they can't control is dangerous. So 164 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But we're here still, man. 165 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: But you know the worst thing you can give a 166 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: person like that is time because now you're sitting there 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: and you being still and you really hearing God and 168 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: hearing what your purpose is exactly. 169 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Man, I prayed so much, man, like nobody can tell 170 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: me nothing, Charlotte. Man, don't come at me with no aism, 171 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: no rubbish, like that God is real and I'm living 172 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: testimony of that, man, trust me. So I feel blessed 173 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: every day. 174 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 6: How how is your health now? 175 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: Work in progress? Yeah, definitely a work in progress. But 176 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: it was worse when I came out. My head was 177 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: this big a Pillsbury door. Boy, it's crazy, man, But 178 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: you were okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 179 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Can you describe the moment you were released? Like what 180 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: that emotion was. 181 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm still prossing, I swear to you, man, because there 182 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: were times like I never lost faith. But when I 183 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: when they actually opened the gate, I was the last 184 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: one out of myself. I was just like, it's really 185 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: is am I dreaming right now? Like what the hell 186 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: is this? Had on my clothes on the full white 187 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: that you see me walk out, I didn't put my 188 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: shoes on it, and I just said a little prior 189 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: and I just walked out. Man. When I was walking 190 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: in the yard and all the prisoners were shaking the doors, 191 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: and it was it was like an earthquake, man, And 192 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I shed a tear or two 193 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: y yeah, tears of joy, yeah yeah, And then I 194 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: just walked through the gate. But throughout my incarceration, I 195 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: never cried. I never felt sorry for myself. You know, 196 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: I just know that this is something that I have 197 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: to get through by the grace of God. Man, God, did. 198 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: What did God tell you to do? 199 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: No, it's not tell you to do like, but when 200 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: you pray, you listen to that voice in her head, 201 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: in her heart, humble yourself. 202 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: Chill mm hmm. 203 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I actually stopped smoking to man, 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: was like, like, I just listened to that divine voice 205 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: in my head, in my heart, and it just led 206 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: me to write to the right place. And I mean 207 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: I made a pact, a covenant with God in prison. Lord, 208 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: if you get me out of this, trust me. I 209 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: will never stop calling your name. I'll never stop being positive, 210 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: I never start spreading that message of love and happiness 211 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: and joy. And I'm doing that right now. And I 212 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: won't stop what I mean no till my last bread man, trust. 213 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: What was the first thing you did when you got out? 214 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: Because I remember when. 215 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: You got. 216 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: People were waiting for you to announce a show, like 217 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: everybody wanted to show one the music, but it took 218 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: you some time for that. So what were you doing, 219 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: poor girl? 220 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: Exactly? 221 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: Well, I was in prison for years, sir, stop it 222 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: come on. But yeah, man, I was just chilling with family. Mostly, 223 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: like I said, my mother, my father, my kids, my grandchildren. 224 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: When I came out of prison, I had treat grandkids. 225 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: But when I was going in, I had babies, So 226 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, thirteen years is a long time. 227 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Trust me. For me right now, it was just God, family, music. 228 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: Who was your biggest allies when you were locked up? 229 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 3: Celebrity wise? I know, oh Buster Buster He always. 230 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: Said, easily spice, easily popcorn. You know what I mean 231 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't she easily boom. I don't 232 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: even have to think my brother slash manager TJ. You 233 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I Shanna, She came to visit 234 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: me several times because a lot of people are scared. 235 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: So it wasn't that they didn't want to come, but 236 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: just the stigma bsociated with Yeah. Yeah, So like spice, 237 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: I Sean and popcorn bust a rhyme. I gotta give 238 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: it a shout out to them, man, give them props. 239 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 6: And relationships are tough, you know in general. 240 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: But what do you think major relationship with your fiance 241 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 5: work while serving a life sentence. 242 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: Because she believed, I mean she believed. I met her 243 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, July twenty fifth, never forget. Yeah, I 244 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: mean we've been on and off. You know, I go, 245 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: she's in the free world. I'm in prison. She lived 246 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: in her life still whatever blah blah blah, but she 247 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: was always there. So in twenty twenty two, I decided, 248 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: like yo, Like I said, I started being more spiritual 249 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: with my faith in God. And I told her, I'm 250 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: like yo, I'm coming out, come to Jamaica. And she came. 251 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: She left everything to Jamaica. 252 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: Who was she? Yeah? 253 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: She was She's from London, oky oyoga. Yeah you bet 254 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: her on Instagram? I heard that, yes, sir, Wow, Wow, 255 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: that was crazy. 256 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: How could you trust that? 257 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: Though? They could have been catfish, I know, but like 258 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: I said, it was years at twenty fifteen. Yeah, you 259 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I was talking and every 260 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: now and then we spoke and we started speaking on 261 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: a regular basis, and yeah, so it took a while 262 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: for me to trust her. She actually came to Jamaica 263 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: the first time in twenty ninety. That's four years after 264 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: we were talking, just on the phone talking, you know 265 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, I. 266 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 7: Think, Okay, all right, we got it. 267 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: She came in twenty nineteen. 268 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 6: You actually got to put the face to the end. 269 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 6: And she looked exactly like the pictures. 270 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, she looked exactly before AI. So she couldn't okay, 271 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: but she came to visit me, and you know what 272 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a vibe twenty two. I was like, 273 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, coming come to Jamaica, come live. She was like, 274 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: oh you sure, she's British and I'm like, yes, come 275 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: and she came, and she did two years before where 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: I came out. So she came to visit me. Every 277 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: time there was a visit. If I was in a 278 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: bad mood sometime and I'd be like, yo, I don't 279 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: want to see nobody, she'd cry, or she would come 280 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: to the prison still and the guards would be like, hey, 281 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeahance is outside, and I'm like, okay, I'll go, you 282 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, yeah, she's been there. 283 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: How did you know she was the one? 284 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Though? 285 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: Because you the world boss, you didn't been all around 286 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: you know she. 287 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Was the one, you know. I mean, she's different. She 288 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: she don't into that hype stuff, you know, chill. Nothing 289 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: is wrong with the girls that are in the hype either. 290 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: You don't mean the school. But she's very humble, you 291 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So even now when I come out, 292 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: I have to beg her to go shopping, you know, 293 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: buy some clothes, man, some were's something Louis do something, 294 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean, And she when she goes shopping, she buys 295 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: stuff for me. Crazy Yeah, yeah, man, you I can't 296 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: sit down? 297 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Is it easy for you to resist the temptation though? 298 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 4: By being at you back on the road and you 299 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: out in the streets, I know the women coming after you. 300 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not gonna lie. I flirt with the 301 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: gladies five sky tell come on, man, nobody can't get 302 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: get out to them. Only she can get out herself 303 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: by messing up. But no girl on the planet can't 304 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: get her out of my life, you know what I mean? 305 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, So she good now the late nineties in early 306 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: two thousands, dance hall was was crazy seems like it 307 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: slowed down a lot. Why do you think that is? 308 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: Because I was in prison, sir, But now I'm out 309 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: and we're doing stuff. But you know what, I don't 310 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it slowed down. I would say that 311 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: the concept changed, the lyrics changed to an extent beat change, 312 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: and it just kind of went that way. And then 313 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, afrobeat came out, the emergence of like reggae, 314 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: tonk became watch, you know what I mean. So I 315 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of factors that contributed the 316 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: dance soul going through that lull. Yeah, but yeah, we're 317 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: back again, man, we're doing stuff. And I think this 318 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: new generation of artists I like them. 319 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: Man, what do you like? What? What? 320 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Well? Jamal dun Sman like Pablo hite G, I mean, 321 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: chronic loss KILLI bangs, you know what I mean? And 322 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: you know Popcorn is like he's the king of that 323 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: little generation. So yeah, to me, they're doing stuff once 324 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: they learn to find you in their music, make it 325 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: more commercial, more palatable to guys like you and you 326 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: know the America North American market place. They're good. They're 327 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: they're good. You know what? 328 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: Because I agree with that because Spice is dance all 329 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 5: to me. 330 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 6: That's why I listened to. Spice is the one man 331 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 6: she is. 332 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: And you know this how she puts her stuff together 333 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: like Americans like it. You like it the vibe. Once 334 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: they cracked that cold, they're good. Man. 335 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: What makes a person king of the dance hall? 336 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: Because that's what they say, they call vibes called king 337 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: of the dance Who qualify a person for that title? 338 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: You're dominant, your influence. It's not necessarily selling records because 339 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: I haven't sold records like Sean Paul. But if I 340 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: want through the streets of Jamaica and Sean Paul is 341 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: on the other side of the rod, he will go unnoticed. 342 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect as the influence that that larger 343 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: than life five that we bring. If I say, oh, Clarks, 344 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: everybody were a cloud put on a tattooe. Everybody gets 345 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: that to you know what I mean, the dominance. And 346 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: I've been doing that since before I got arrested. I've 347 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: been people then calling me the king of dancer. But 348 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I said, kings come, 349 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: kings go, Presidents come, presidents go. Nothing is forever accept salvation. 350 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'm not really fighting for the crown 351 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: because the people gave it. 352 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: Can it be more than one king? More people love 353 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: to say Beanie Man too. 354 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Of course it can be more than one king. Not 355 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: in our genre one, No, But that's what I'm saying. 356 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Remember who was the king? Who was the king in 357 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: nineteen forty five? King George or something that nigga dead 358 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: and more kings come along. It's just life, That's what 359 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't hold on to it forever. You 360 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: can't gate keep the crown. It's not yours to get. 361 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: It was never yours to gate keep. You do your time, 362 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: you move on. The new king is in town, sir, 363 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: thank you. 364 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: Now, when you were locked up, verses was big, right, yeah? 365 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and be any bond to Versus is my favorite. 366 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: That's my favorite. I was in prison watching that, Like. 367 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: Now, when you were watching that? Do you think I 368 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: would love to do a versus? Because yeah, it's a 369 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: very competitive and if you could, who would you want. 370 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: To do on? Obviously come on obviously man, Yeah, big 371 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: Upada too, man, But yeah, that would be a crazy versus. 372 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: Obviously I would win, but he would. 373 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody catalog you were afraid of a little bit. 374 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: Uh got a big catalog, Yeah, no, not being there 375 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: a bounty killer, those guys, those those are in a 376 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: different class. Remember you know what I mean, A bound 377 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: to killer being there a lot in the nineties to 378 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and Cartail came out Elephant Man 379 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: as a nice catalog. It's not like a warrior artist. Yeah, 380 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 381 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: What's a warrior artists? 382 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: That? A car tell killer? I mean a massacre ready 383 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: to go at it right now? Yeah? So but no, no, no, 384 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: I think I have the biggest current catalog in dance 385 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: tall because it's relatively young's twenty three years. Yeah, you 386 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean, lots of hits, especially in the 387 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: dance tall landscape. You know what I mean? 388 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 3: Is that missing in music though, like the fact that 389 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: you would you know, me coming up in queens and 390 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: DJing parties. I would come up and then if somebody, 391 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: let's say you were in the club or baby Sham's 392 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: in the club, but if they would just grab and 393 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: go at each other, yes, it wouldn't be physical, no, 394 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: it would be music. Yeah, that's what's missing in dance 395 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: hall especially. 396 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: I think so too. And one of the reasons why 397 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: I think so too is because of the Internet. So 398 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: a lot of these young kids, they got their fame 399 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: from their bedroom. They made their ridden in their bedroom, 400 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: recording did it in there, They're their YouTube channel, put 401 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: it out. They can monitor this their ship on iTunes, whatever, 402 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: So they're not we on the other hand, we had 403 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: to go in the streets. We have to go to 404 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: the studio. And I'm saying it was a more physical 405 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: thing for us, you know what I mean, in the 406 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: same way I remember back in the day when records 407 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: came out, you have to go to the record store. 408 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: Now you can just take up your phone and be 409 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: like yo, stream and stream. So that's why I think 410 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: they don't have that. They don't have the knock for 411 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: physical confrontation like we did. And by physical, I don't 412 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: mean like punching, even though sometimes that that does happen, 413 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: but like to run up on a guy on stage. Now, 414 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: they're not going to do that. 415 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 6: I wasn't thinking nobody would do that, would Jamaicans anyway, But. 416 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: Other Jamaicans like, yeah, because I would like you you're 417 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: talking ship. When is his next shows? A showing at 418 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: the Breakfast club? We go in? Yeah, we run up. 419 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: So, yeah, have you done that to somebody, grabs somebody's mic? 420 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 4: No? 421 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Uh we Mavada during Me and Mavado. Yeah, he used 422 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: to run up on me a couple of times. I 423 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: ran upon him the last time I was in Saint Elizabeth. 424 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: That was crazy, which was then I got the concept 425 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: to do the door run sound because I had a 426 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: door run song before sting and then after Sting. Then 427 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because he ran off stage 428 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: two and he's related to you, saying both you know that? 429 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, but ahead the time that yeah, it was 430 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: now in hindsight, I mean, I mean, I'm glad you 431 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: had that feud, man. It made us big, and you 432 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's spread dance all to places 433 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: like Africa, which at the time we were like, these 434 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: guys listen to us because you know, they don't showcase 435 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: that in the media. Then before the Internet where you 436 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: could just jump on your phone and see Africa for yourself. Yes, 437 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: So I think clashing is good, man, How. 438 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: Do y'all get the good terms after clashing? Good conversation? 439 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: The first time we had that conversation was when the 440 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: first time we had that conversation was the second time 441 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: the government stand for us in Jamaica because the ViBe's 442 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: carteime of other things was so big, school kids fighting, 443 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: people getting hurt. So we were just see there at 444 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: King's House which is where the politicians, and were like, yo, 445 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: music brought us here, bro, like this is crazy. That's 446 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: when we started talking. And after that we still fielded, 447 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: but it was just more like on a controlled level, 448 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: like he would be like, yo, I dropped a song, 449 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: why don't you answer it? Like oh, and I didn't 450 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: hear it, And then I replied to it, and then 451 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: I would drop a song and he would reply. So 452 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: we kept it like that, and it culminated in us 453 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: doing the West Kingston show when he called me on 454 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: stage in West Kingstone with dust. 455 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's smart. So y'all kind of like planned it out. 456 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: It was strategic and not in. 457 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: The beginning, That's what I'm saying. After we went to 458 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: the King's House where the government was, we was like 459 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: outside waiting to go in, and we were just talking 460 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: like do we get the kids? Man? Look you know 461 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, looking at our music. He's doing it 462 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: brought us here, and then we just started like yo, 463 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: fuck this that's that's plan this, let's be strategic. 464 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 4: When did you realize the influence that you had? Was 465 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 4: it moments like that when you got kids in school fighting, 466 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: you know, for your music? 467 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: Like, when did you realize I have influence over a 468 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: whole generation? 469 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean I've always realized that, but I never took 470 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: it as seriously as I should have, because then I 471 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: would have made maybe better choices. I don't know. But 472 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: with that being said, I still have no regrets. Yeah, 473 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: because my choice has led me here. I mean I've 474 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: been down some dark roads, but I'm still alive. Man, 475 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing extremely well and God has blessed me. But yeah, 476 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: I've always realized that I had the influence. 477 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: I got a question, right, So my wife is Jamaican, right, 478 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: so I asked her we have artists some things, so 479 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 3: we look at it differently. So she was like, looking back, yes, 480 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: it was. 481 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: There. 482 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 3: Is there a moment in your career you wish you 483 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: handled differently at all? Or like you just said, do 484 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: you have no regrets? Is there anything that you said 485 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: I should have done differently? 486 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean not really. I mean, let me see, should 487 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: have done differently when I I think maybe when I 488 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know when I hit an ninja man with 489 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: the mic on stage. I don't know, but because that's 490 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everything that I've done, it's still even 491 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: if it brought me down, when I came up, I 492 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: came up higher. So I don't like that word regret. Man. 493 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: I don't know, because if you believe in God, you 494 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 4: really got to believe everything happened for a reason. Even 495 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: if it was just your own poor choice still got 496 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 4: you close to the God because God got you through. 497 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Nothing I would do different. 498 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: Maybe with a ninja man thing, maybe I wouldn't have 499 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: punched it. Maybe I would have just kicked it. I 500 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know. 501 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 4: Something that something in the public that's funny though, because 502 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 4: he like he had to get it something out. 503 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Kick don't change history. What I'm saying, you're gonna mess 504 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: it up for all of us. Go back in time 505 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: and talk right. 506 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: What's something the public completely misunderstands about vibes. 507 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm a fun guy, m I mean, I like to vibe. 508 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: I'd like to have fun. Like if you don't know me, 509 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: especially then it like and if you approach me wrong, 510 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: obviously I'm going to react. But if I'm comfortable around people. 511 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: We're cool, man, we vibe it. Yeah. So a lot 512 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: of people really they think I'm just it's evil personal 513 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: when I'm not. 514 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 3: I mean, so now your lyricism is layer with double 515 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 3: meanings and coded language at times. Yes, how intentional is that? 516 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: Do you write for interpretation or expression both? 517 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 1: I mean, music is art man, So at the end 518 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: of the day, we're poets. Man. All you see you 519 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: on stage clashing each other, singing those violent lyrics, it's 520 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: still poetry. So it has to be done artistically. It 521 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: has to be done a specific way to get a 522 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: desired result. Otherwise you're just chatting ship. I mean, you're 523 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: just talking. Yeah, so we do both. 524 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: What fuels the creativity now? 525 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: Now be could I know you you said when you 526 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 4: was locked up, you know it was just your desire 527 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: to work and feed your family that fueleded What fuels 528 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: it now? 529 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: Is it pain? Is it purpose? 530 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean purpose? Thank you for that thought of it? 531 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: Like that purpose, I would say, because God is purpose. 532 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: God is ultimate purpose, you know what I mean? So 533 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: I think purpose pushes me, like I still record even 534 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: though I don't have to, I still record five six 535 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: songs and I'm in the studio, back and back and 536 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: still we're in the studio party and girls are there, 537 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: we're drinking, me smoking. I still knock out five songs, 538 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: seven songs. So yeah, yeah, I love this, you know. 539 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: I do this from the heart, man, and I do 540 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: it for the culture too. 541 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 3: Definitely one of your biggest records, Romp and Shot. Yes, 542 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: did you ever get that clean? Or was it you 543 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: just so you never got paid off it that you 544 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 3: just threw it out and it just did what it did. 545 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: I got paid. Come on, that song is under my 546 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: That song put me on another level globally again because, 547 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: like I said, it's the same Clarks did it summertime? 548 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: Did it fever? Did it? You have some songs that 549 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: you get those songs, it's like up another echelon, right, 550 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: you're just going up. So yeah, of course, man, that 551 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: that song was crazy. We actually wanted to try to 552 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: see if we could get it cleared now and do 553 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: like maybe a twelve year anniversary fifteen ye or whatever. 554 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, that song was crazy. But I didn't get 555 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: it cleared. But in Neo's defense, he. 556 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: Didn't see you. 557 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: He couldn't clear it. Like he's remember the rhythm, you know, 558 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: the thing go publishing, and you made the beat, but 559 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: he's the rapper. But you know what I mean. So 560 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: people think, oh, why didn't Envy clear the song? But 561 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: you owned the brides to the Yeah. So yeah. 562 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: Now, also when you perform back in the late nineties 563 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: in early two thousand, there was terms and words that 564 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: you could say that you cannot say anymore or they 565 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 3: will try to cancel it. 566 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: Oh no, the nineties kind of back a little bit. 567 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: Man. 568 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: You remember to getting a rapper shop? 569 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, take it right out, ramping shop. Shit, 570 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: that was explicit. I mean, I don't know. 571 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: Man, playing for the kids. 572 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Is explicit, as is very intolerant, which I think is 573 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: changing now still because the world is changing. So you've 574 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: got to be mindful of what you say. 575 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: You know, there's certain songs you don't do because of that. 576 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: Are you just I won't do there's certain songs. 577 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: I won't do. Yeah? Hell yeah, I mean come on, 578 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: that's like saying, oh, slavery was good, let's bring it back. No, 579 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: we're not. So we're not going to sing certain songs. 580 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: You're not gonna you know what I mean, come on, 581 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: it's it's distasteful, Yes, distasteful. Thank you. 582 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: And also, I'm sure over time you've probably seen gaut 583 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: to gall and it looked beautiful together to gather. Don't 584 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 4: got to got to gather look beautiful together. 585 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 7: Man. 586 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't judge and I don't look. I'm 587 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm is what I'm saying. So yeah. 588 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: Another question the wife had is are you going to 589 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: marry your fiance? It's been a while now. 590 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: That's usually how it works, You usually marry your fiance. Okay, 591 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: this is the thing. I came out July thirty first. Yes, 592 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: they're the biggest concert in Jamaica history. December thirty first, 593 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: got my US visa January thirty first. Yeah, so I 594 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: wanted to get married February thirty first. It turns out 595 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a thirty first. 596 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: You did that on prof you know, exactly. 597 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Get married? No, because I've been so busy all over 598 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: the place. We have to planet Oau. You know, her 599 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: family is big, mine is big. But they know mis like, 600 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: she's right here. I left her. I don't leave her nowhere. 601 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: She's not my good luck chime out in trouble. 602 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. She balances me, she calms me, man, 603 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, she good. 604 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: How was that. How was that big show that you 605 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: did in Jamaica. 606 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, over thirty five some pre crazy. That show was 607 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: a sea of people just as far as I can see. 608 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: Was it overwhelming for you? 609 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: No? 610 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Man, too easy for me, Like I said, I put 611 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: in the work and I know I deserve it. So 612 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: for me like no, nervous, no nothing. We just you 613 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: saw why I came out of the pit because we 614 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: did that to It's like art was in the dungeon. 615 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: So I'm coming up now out of the pit of hell. 616 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: That's what's the concept for me, coming out from under 617 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: the stage. Man, I work for that. I deserve it. 618 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: Thank you God, thank you Jesus. 619 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question about Jamaican culture. It 620 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 5: seems like bleaching your skin is becoming more popular now, 621 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 5: Like what is the fascination with that? 622 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I think it has to do with, you know, the 623 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: usual issue self hate, the history of colonialism, colorism, it's 624 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: all that, you know what I mean. And like we 625 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: I were speaking to, I don't remember who I was 626 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: speaking to, because even in like places like Asia, skin 627 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: bleaching is a big thing too. And it has to 628 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: do with that Stockholm syndrome. Because if you think about it. 629 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Who in Asia bleaches the most. It's the North sorry, 630 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: the South Koreans and the Japanese that americanized kind of European. 631 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: They weren't that you were centric, look is what I'm saying. 632 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: And black people have always had that problem. I mean, 633 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: I would never bleach again personally, you know what I mean, 634 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: because I'm mature enough to know that. Yo, fuck that. 635 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: I definitely think it has to do with self hate 636 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: or self lack of self confidence as a race, because 637 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: when I was bleaching, like I literally looked in the 638 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: mirror and I thought I looked better being light skin, 639 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it took a time 640 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: for me to man, fuck that. 641 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: So it was a cosmetic thing when you did it, Yes, definitely, 642 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: but I would never do. 643 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 6: That again, man, And I'm glad. I'm very very glad 644 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 6: to hear that. 645 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 5: But even though on Love and Hip Hop Spice Spice, 646 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 5: she it was a mess. It was a bigger message 647 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 5: that she was trying to convey and it was exactly 648 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: what you were saying. She's like, man, this this is 649 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 5: different in America than it is back But like, you 650 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 5: don't get certain things if you're not a fairer skin, 651 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 5: you know, and people here because love and hip hop 652 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 5: is American people was. 653 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 6: Looking at spices like what the hell? Like, why would 654 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 6: you know? 655 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 5: Black skin is beautiful always, you know what I mean? So, 656 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 5: but now I totally do get what you're saying. 657 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 6: It is totally different. 658 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: Culturally, Yeah, trust me, because we only have blacks in Jamaica. Yeah, 659 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: so for us, it's not racism. It's colorism. Like the 660 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: lights that skin you are, it's like climb social it's 661 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: crazy work. 662 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: Was it a woman? Was it a woman that encouraged 663 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: you to do it? 664 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Oh? No, it's just a bunch of us as you 665 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, does Jamaica? 666 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 5: One point was yeah, I mean, so did you have 667 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 5: any effects after that? 668 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 6: Like long term because you were doing it for a while, Like. 669 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: Term effects? Just some fucking pictures that I don't want 670 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: to look at. 671 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: They used to say I was bleaching, and they would 672 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: always send me pictures of you and have me side 673 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: by side. 674 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: You know you were he was ugly and then he 675 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: was cute and no, damn no, he had a whole face. 676 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: God metic surgery. 677 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, I know, tell him the truth, Michael, 678 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 4: what happened? 679 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: Have polyms in my nose. I would snore a lot 680 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: and couldn't, so they removed the polymps. I didn't touch 681 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: my nose. My nose is the same, Michael. 682 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: You still get. 683 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: Nervous when you perform. 684 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: What's nervous? Is it soul? That was that it tastes? 685 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: Is it contagious? 686 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: M don't We don't do None of us know that. 687 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: We don't do that. No, like I said, and plus 688 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: like I said, I was raised in a family of 689 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: people that love music. My uncles used to try to 690 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: be DJs, not DJ's like like me DJ Jamaican rapper. Yeah. Yeah, 691 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: so I grew up always wanting to get the microphone, 692 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I grew up wanting to 693 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: go on stage. 694 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 695 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: So no, as it relates to music, no nervousness. I'd 696 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: be more nervous like going in the bank or something, 697 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: or walking through the airport or you know what I mean? No, no, no, no, no, 698 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: that's too easy. 699 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: Was not at all. 700 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: How was Jamaica for you? Is you make a safe 701 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: space for vibe culture? 702 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Of course not? 703 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: Do you stay there primarily? 704 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: Or I live here, sir? 705 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: Oh okay okay, I live in Florida got you got 706 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 4: your I mean, I did thirteen years in prison. Why 707 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: would I But I wrecked my country right through. I 708 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: wrecked my culture all the way every day one the 709 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: odd man bumbo clad? 710 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: Can I say that? 711 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? Is it the government or the people that makes 712 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 4: you be like? Okay, let me stay, let me, let 713 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: me keep my distance from nah. 714 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: I just want to like I spent thirteen years, Like seriously, 715 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: that's not a joe, Like I need to go out 716 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: now like I'm working. Yeah, Yeah, Florida is good because 717 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: it's a home. You can come to New York. You 718 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: can just go across the Atlantic, England, go west during 719 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: la you know what I mean. So it's just a 720 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: nice place to be geographically, I can just move. 721 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: Do you like to go back to those areas that 722 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: you grew up on? Like drive through Brooklyn in America? 723 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: Want so hard? 724 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 8: No, No, I'm not going back. But like in Brooklyn, 725 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 8: I mean like areas in Brooklyn brown exact white planes 726 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 8: rode back in the day twenty fist, yes, do you 727 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 8: go by? 728 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: No, sir, don't you know what I mean? But seriously, 729 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: why I'm just staying out of trouble. I don't want 730 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: to be involved in nothing negative. Mm hmm. Never Yeah, 731 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: so we stay away from that. 732 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah has has has you? 733 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: Mister Palm will become a ever become a prisoner above cartel? 734 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: Like how do you remind yoursel. 735 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: All the time, all the time? And it's crazy, like 736 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: it's it's it's conflicting, but it's whatever, man, Vibescartell is 737 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: why I am. I have the things that I have, 738 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: and I can take care of my family. I work sacrifice, 739 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But sometimes some days I 740 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: wish I could just walk, man, just walk with my 741 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: grand chods on the road and just well buy some 742 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: ice cream and chili that mm hmm. It's crazy. 743 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: So what keeps you grounded? What keeps you reminding yourself 744 00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: of who you? 745 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: Who you are? 746 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: Not the character of the Vibe Cartel. 747 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: I used to buy into the character mm hmmmm, because 748 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: we grew up rough, We grew up in more so, 749 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: grew up tough two point oh. But you know, I 750 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: just what keeps grounding the family? Like I said, my kids, 751 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: the new lease that God has given me keep me 752 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: grounded and messing that up for nobody. M hm. 753 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, the album is streaming right now. New album you 754 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: want to hear something of the new album. 755 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: No, I did the album, sir, the people right now? 756 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 4: Can I make a request, though, you need to do 757 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 4: a comedy movie, Jamaican comedy. 758 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: We already get a Jamaican gang bang shooting. 759 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: Up comedy or horror film. I always thought about that. 760 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: There's no Jamaican horror film, even though as African descent, 761 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: as we have a lot of us, we call them 762 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: dumpy story Oh yeah, yeah, yeah we don't. I think 763 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: we need to capitalize on that more. 764 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, you believe in mhm. 765 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: I was going to say something very disrespectful about it. 766 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: Let's hear it. 767 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: No, I don't, I don't believe you don't. 768 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: Believe it goes? Come on, artist, Yeah, I know you was. 769 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course, I mean, of course that's the 770 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: spirit is the spirit. Remember you have good spirit, you 771 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: have bad spirit? You know what I mean? Good spirits? 772 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: Right now? 773 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: That's right. What about mermaids? Did y'all ever see mermaidsaid? 774 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: Because I always hear no for real, because. 775 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: That's the things I'm talking about. In Jamaica, we call 776 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: them river mains because we have a lot of references. Yeah, 777 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: so stories that the river mains put the golden table 778 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: up and people would see it and dive in and 779 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: then they will pull you down in the water. Yeah, 780 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: we grew up on all those stories in Calves. That's 781 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: the spirits of butchers. No, yeah, at night with the 782 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: cow chain and it's. 783 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 6: Crazy, man like like the Jamaican Texas change exactly. 784 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Without the Texas and without the change, it's no budget. 785 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: Have you seen a river maybe before? Have you seen 786 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: a river made before? 787 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: No, but I've seen lots of duppies ghost like, yeah, 788 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: no joke, you know what I mean. So, yeah, it's 789 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: not about belief, you know, you know, you know, you 790 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You couldn't have God. You believe 791 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: in the God. You have to accept that the devil 792 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: is exist, you know what I mean. 793 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you got you got plans to write any 794 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 4: films anything like that? 795 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. I'd love to do a film about my life. 796 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean not just not my entire life. So it's 797 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: maybe like the prison part. 798 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, after I. 799 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: Die, someone else can do the full life ship. I 800 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: have no time for that. I'm living. I'm living now. Yeah, 801 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: my kids can do that when I'm gone, you know 802 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, but definitely movies. Man, I 803 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: love entertainment. I love movies. 804 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a sense of him. You're very fun. 805 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 5: Definitely a vibe there you go. 806 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna try this again. 807 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Vibes. 808 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: What song do you want to hear. 809 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: For the people? 810 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 6: I want to hit port Flip. 811 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 3: I want to said, let's get into porn floor right now. 812 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 3: It's weekend. You should have your tickets already. If not, 813 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: it's sold out, you're gonna have to go to step 814 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: Hub and pay grands and grands and grands for it. 815 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: But definitely check them out. And we appreciate you for 816 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 3: joining us anytime. 817 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: Brother. 818 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: Pull up. Yeah, I'm a big up Sharlie man, big 819 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: up your envy, big up. Yes, where's Angela? 820 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 2: She got her own show on after Yeah. 821 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: Okay she should be Yeah, okay, okay, big up Angela. 822 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what you know. God is the great task. 823 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: That's right we are. 824 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 3: It's the breakfast Club. 825 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 2: It's vibes, Car tell you wake til ass up in 826 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: the morning. The Breakfast Club.