1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Awe, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson and Matt Well. It's a beautiful 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Wednesday here in Pittsburgh and the Steelers are wheel still 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing a little bit here. Earlier today, they 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and release Jamir Jones, the outside linebacker, which 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: was somewhat surprising given their outside linebacker depth and the 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: fact that Jamir Jones last year was one of the 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: team leaders in special team snaps. Yeah, okay, So I'll 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: be honest, as I often am, pullback the curtain. This 12 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: is news to me. I did not hear that this morning, 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: and I am alarmed, to be honest with you. I 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: thought when they brought him back that he was a 15 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: quality number four outside linebacker. I felt like there was 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: a three spot was still vacant. He was a core 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: special teamer. And to pull back curtain further, I don't 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: watch special teams tape, but he must have done something 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: right because he was out there for all the all 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the four major special teams snaps time and time again. 21 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: So apparently he was either good at it or the 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: best they had at the time. So that does surprise me. Well, 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: it tells me that there's something else in the works, right, 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: that's my next thought. Yeah, yeah, because right now they 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: did sign Quincy Roche that kind of went under the radar, 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: right right, not that Quincy Roche as a you know, 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: some groundbreaking player here. So right now it's it's it's 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Quincy Roche in Ameca egg Buoy as their backup outside linebackers. Well, 29 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: we know they had Bud Dupree in a couple of 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago for a visit. There's also this thing called 31 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: the draft coming up very soon. Yes, that would allow 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: them to add to that position as well. So there's 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: some stuff that they could do there that, um, you know, 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: could certainly help that position. Well, I'm sure they're not done. 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think they were done before this move. And 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up Brochet. I mean, he was 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: a guy they drafted, went to the Giants. She's been 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: in the league now a couple of years. My initial 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: thought was, well, they probably like Brochet more than Jones. Okay, 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but it would it be detrimental to have 41 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: brought both the camp and figure it out there. I mean, 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: so that's what I found a little ot about it. Yeah, again, 43 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: I think this is the the first shoot to drop 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: or something happened, you know, with with Jones, you know 45 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: that that's always possible as well. The Steelers. Also on Monday, 46 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: our mom wats agent announced that he is signing with 47 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers. He's a defensive tackle. Has started some games 48 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: over the past two seasons with both Minnesota and Chicago. 49 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Two years ago in Minnesota was actually pretty active for them, 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: had five sacks, like forty eight tackles, you know, so 51 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: there's a little something there. And he was a former 52 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: six round draft pick. I guess he got caught up 53 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: in the numbers at the end of training camp last 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: year with the Vikings and they ended up releasing him 55 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: and he got claimed by Chicago and well he ended 56 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: up starting twelve games for the Bears last year. Yeah. 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I say he's played quite a bit over the last 58 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: few years. If you look at him through a traditional 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Steelers lens, he's much much morere three four the end 60 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: than he is nose tackle. Yeah, I mean, he's a 61 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: longer armed guy, got some heights to him. I would 62 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: say he's a better pass rusher than run stuffer, but 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: he's not great or bad it either, and he's not 64 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: moved pretty well. I think he fits the scheme. My 65 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: initial thought was probably has Wormley now out of the equation. 66 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: And it's not a ringing endorsement for louder Milk. But 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: by no means would this slow you down to draft 68 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: per Se or whomever. You know. It's not going to 69 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: slow you down to add another defensive lineman in a 70 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks there in the draft. Yeah, these are 71 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: these are depth pieces. It's more of what they've continued 72 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: to do throughout this offseason. It's just basically adding placeholders 73 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: so that when you go into the draft, if you 74 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: don't get the opportunity to draft somebody at a position, 75 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: you're not short at that position. Like there's nowhere in 76 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: the team right now, including cornerback, where they're short on 77 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: guys who are who have played NFL games right right. 78 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean they have a lot of NFL players now. 79 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: And I would imagine if you lined up this upcoming 80 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: Sunday and your four man front Hayward and Ogan Job, 81 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: you would be You're into your guys, and I would 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: think what would be the next guy off the watch? 83 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: Would be the next guy off the bench. Yeah you know, 84 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: so you you've really helped it and you still have 85 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: the owl and you know, I mean, yeah, you know 86 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: you look at it again. I mentioned cornerback. You know, 87 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: you have Levi Wallace, you have a Kello Witherspoon, you 88 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: have James Pierre. So you have guys there who have 89 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: done it for you. Uh. You know in line up 90 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: you still have Arthur Mallett in the slot. So it's 91 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: not like it's not like you're absolutely you know, well, 92 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: if we don't get a first round cornerback here or 93 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, one in the first three picks, well geez, 94 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do a cornerback? Yeah, the cupboards 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: aren't bare, no matter what I mean if the draft 96 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: doesn't go. So a big thing the teams are doing 97 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: now is, of course they're putting together there their vertical board. 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: Let's rank all of our running backs, let's rank all 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: of our tight ends, and then you know, we rank 100 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: our vertical board, you know, tight end three, verse, running 101 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: back five, who we like better, blah blah blah. But 102 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: they're also looking at strategy you know that there's gonna 103 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: be pockets where Boy, there's a lot of receivers available 104 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: in the third round. There's boy, there's a lot of 105 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: safeties in the fourth man there's nothing a tackle passed 106 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: round three or whatever it is. You know, And I 107 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: think you make some signings like this because what if 108 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: our strategies a little wrong, or the draft doesn't go 109 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: like there's a run on a position, you know, yeah, 110 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: the run on a position, or you know, guys we 111 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: thought would be there wouldn't. Well, we can live with 112 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: these guys we've signed recently or we have on the roster. 113 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: You mentioned that have played a lot of NFL snaps. Yeah, 114 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean we've seen that happen to them over the 115 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: years at say cornerback, or they're going to a draft, 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, looking to get a tight end and all 117 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, every time, every time they 118 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: come up to pick, there's been a run at that 119 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: position right before they pick, and you don't want to 120 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: have to reach to get a guy. Well, now they 121 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: don't have to reach at any position. I forget what 122 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: year was you and I were on the draft, and 123 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: it was before they drafted Fryarmouth. But We both thought 124 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: there was a pretty good chance rounds two through four 125 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: they would be interested in the tight end when we 126 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: previewed the you know, the draft, and it was it's 127 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: funny you brought that up, because time and time again 128 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: they'd be like two tight ends that went right before 129 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: they picked, you know, right, Oh, well, didn't see that coming. 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Thought one of the two would be there or something 131 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: along those lines. And those things happen, or you do 132 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: see the run and you try to move up three spots, 133 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: but nobody's selling, you know, I mean, you can't control 134 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, and I think too, you know, like 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: there was a report out of Chicago, um and it 136 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: was by some bloggers, so who know, I don't even 137 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: know if if it's holds any water or not. Steelers 138 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: are talking to the Bears about moving up to the 139 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: nine spot. I saw that too. Well, they're talking to 140 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: everybody right now, Hey, what would you're crazy if you're known, right, 141 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: that's what you do, like and everybody so other they're 142 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: they're looking to move up for a cornerback, or they're 143 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: looking to move up for an offensive tackle. No, I 144 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: think they look at like so you know, you you 145 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: check these things out to see what it would cost. 146 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: What if Jay Look falls to nine right right now 147 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: for Jalen Carter. You know, if he's your top player 148 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: on your board and he falls to nine, okay, yeah 149 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: you might, you might entertain going up to get him, right, 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. I mean. I bet when 151 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: they traded up for Devin Bush, they thought, there's two 152 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: linebackers in this draft. We really want to get one 153 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: of them. And they weren't as set at that position 154 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: as they are throughout this roster that we're looking at today. 155 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't Devin Bush or Devin White or Bust. 156 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: But when they went up there, they were after a dude. 157 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I bet now, as all teams should be doing, and 158 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: I assume they are. You talk to the team's six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 159 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: well maybe not even six, seven, eight, you know, nine, 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: ten through twelve, because if our fifth ranked player in 161 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: this entire draft is there at ten, well now I'm 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: interested in trading up. You know, if it's maybe it's 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: Christen Gonzalez, I don't know who it is. Maybe it's Witherspoon, 164 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, but drafts are weird. Maybe there's a 165 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: run on quarterbacks. Maybe b. John goes seventh for some reason, 166 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: and think, think about it this way, Matt. So that 167 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: the year that that Derwin James felt a seventeen right, 168 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: like nobody thought Derwin James was the seventeenth best player 169 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: in that draft. But he falls to that spot and 170 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: you end up you know, you look at it and 171 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: you say, you know, if you're let's say you're at twenty, Derwyn, 172 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: we have Derwin James ranked as a top seven player 173 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: in this draft, and he's now available at seventeen right 174 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: and it only costs us a fourth to get him. Now, yeah, 175 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, you consider it, and you don't know, 176 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, somebody could say that guy, I don't even remember. 177 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: You call somebody up and you say, you know, what 178 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: would it cost to to to move up? And they say, well, 179 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, to move back down to seventeen for you know, 180 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: if we're moving four spots, will you know a fourth 181 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: round draft pick will get it done? Well, now you're 182 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: now you might be interested. If they say it's a two, 183 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: you're not going to be interested. But but you don't 184 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: know unless you ask. It's something that they've done every year, 185 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: and you can get a good idea of well, the 186 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Bears might be looking to trade down where the Raiders 187 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: are very happy where they're sitting, or the Eagles are 188 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: trying to trade up. You know, I mean something what 189 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: the other thing too? It helps you with your strategy 190 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: when you're putting together you know you again, I you know, 191 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: Omar Khan said that that they're going to be very 192 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: cognizant of what's happening around them with everybody else. You know, 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert has said over the last they quit doing 194 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: mock drafts years ago because they weren't concerned as much 195 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: about what everybody else was doing. Well, I think Omar 196 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: is taking a different tact on that and saying, we 197 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: are concerned about what other teams are doing around We 198 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: want to know what they're doing around us because that 199 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: affects us without question. But there and yes, there are 200 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: smoke screens. There are picks that nobody saw it coming. 201 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: But everybody knows who visited who everybody has a clue of, 202 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: certainly the teams that don't want a quarterback or the 203 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: teams that don't want a running back. I mean, you 204 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: can eliminate a lot of prospects or pick any team, 205 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, pick whoever's picking twelfth in this draft, Well, 206 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you of the top twenty players, here's 207 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: eight of them they don't want, you know what I mean. 208 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: That's narrows things down and that leaves twenty that they 209 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: do want, but we only want five of them, you know. 210 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: So okay, you can figure that stuff out. Yeah, and 211 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: it helps you a little bit with that. In that regard, Matt, 212 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: you sent me this last week. I want to touch 213 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: on this year before we end this segment NBC Sports 214 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: Edge put together and this was done by Rodo Patkerty. Yeah. 215 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: His rankings of NFL head coaches m okay and interesting 216 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: here at the top he knows Andy Reid ahead of 217 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I think I would too. I mean, the 218 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: ref in body of work is pretty darn strong, and 219 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: it's not so strong on Belichick to me. Yeah, you know, 220 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: is it interesting? You know, it's a combine or I'm sorry. 221 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: At the owners meetings and we had Greg Bedard on, 222 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: who of course covers the Patriots for Boston Sports Journal, 223 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: and he raised the idea that Belichick might not be 224 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: in this too much longer with the Patriots. Yeah, yeah, 225 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean I could see it's wearing on him. I mean, 226 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: life after Brady has been difficult. Even mister crafts that's 227 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: something along the lines of, hey, nobody's safe or I 228 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: don't exactly remember what the wording was, but it wasn't 229 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, he can be our head coach as long 230 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: as he wants. I mean, that's not the feeling I 231 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: got as well. So no, I could see Belichick handing 232 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: it over or not to his son probably, but maybe 233 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: somebody else on staff, or they're being changes because they're 234 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: not doing great. Yeah, it seems like Jared Mayo is 235 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: the yes that would successor and successor in waiting here. 236 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: Belichick needs nineteen more wins to become the all time 237 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: winning as coach in NFL history. Does he get to 238 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: that as as the head coach of the Patriots, I 239 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think he does either, right, I mean, 240 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: unfortunately for him, it's not ten you know, it's two years, 241 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: no matter what it might be, three, might be three. 242 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: But I think he would get there in two problems. 243 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: Well maybe not ten nineteen wins it I mean, he'd 244 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: have to win. That's you know, given what they've done 245 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: in the last couple of seasons. That's three years one 246 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: winning season. I mean, that's at least one winning season, 247 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: if not two, right hed to go, you know, ten 248 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: and seven and nine and eight would only get him 249 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: a tie. Yeah, that's interesting. And right now, I mean, 250 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: if you had to, if you ranked the teams in 251 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: that division. Of course, we're assuming that that Aaron Rodgers 252 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: does eventually wind up with the Yets. Patriots are probably 253 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: fourth in that division. Yeah, they're fourth, and I don't 254 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: think they're one of the bottom five to ten teams 255 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: in the league. But I always when we talk win 256 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: totals and things of that nature, the first thing I 257 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: like to do with teams is test how many wins 258 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: are going to have in their division. I mean, I'm 259 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: going one and a half or two. I don't think 260 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: they get to three or four. I think you over 261 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: unders one and a half. Yeah, yeah, right, So that 262 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: makes it hard to get to ten when you only 263 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: have ten games, let eleven now to get eight wins, 264 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right, don't have to be 265 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: a math major to figure that stuff out. He has 266 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: Sean McVay third. Can you still put Sean McVay third. 267 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill him for last year. I 268 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: mean they were the most injured team in the league 269 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: them in Denver by far. And here's the thing, though, 270 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: So if I max up my credit card and I 271 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: go out and you know, trade away all those f 272 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: and picks, as their GM said, and I go get 273 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: me a bunch of stars, I should win. Should I not? Right? 274 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: And I will say the referenced injuries with with McVeigh, 275 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: which I think, yes, last year was very probably say 276 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I think that matters ry to pop up at there. 277 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm like a laptop that was okay, that was trying 278 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: to pull up his head coaching ranks, and NBC blew 279 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: it up. So I'll just have to go through you. 280 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: But I will say the flip side of McVeigh, which 281 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: is not a feather in his cap, is his run, 282 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: which I think is five years before last year they 283 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: were by far the healthiest team in the NFL. And 284 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's better at keeping people healthy than Belichick, Tomlin, 285 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: Harbaugh whoever. I think he was very lucky and last 286 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: year incredibly unlucky with injuries. Yeah, and they're going to 287 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: be a bad team again this year. They may be 288 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: the worst team in the LEA. They're gonna be in 289 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: the conversation. I urge people, this is crazy to me. 290 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Like their defense, Like I'm pulling up our lads right now. 291 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Their defensive death chart as it stands, going into the 292 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: draft without a first round pick is maybe as bad 293 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: as I've ever seen, you know, Like these are their 294 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: starters on defense not named Aaron Donald, Jonah Williams, Marquise Copeland, 295 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: Kier Thomas, Ernest Jones, who's a good player, Christian Rosenboom, 296 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: Michael Hawk, Darien Kendrick, Jordan Fuller, Russ Yeast, Robert Rochelle, 297 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: and Kobe Durant. I think he just named nine guys 298 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: who have never been in my kitchen. I could have 299 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: made up half of those names. Ross Yeast, maybe I 300 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: made him up. People know if I made him up 301 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: or not. I bet they're not sure. We should have. 302 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: We should have made that a game, you know, rams 303 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: defensive starter or the players made up or not? And 304 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: the guys behind him I've never heard of either. I mean, 305 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Zach van Valkenberg is the backup outside linebacker. It's ridiculously bad. Yeah, 306 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: I can imagine Aaron Donald plays the whole season that 307 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: you know as him and Cooper Cup gonna get traded 308 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, or I mean they're gonna be horrible, 309 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: horrible and they have no draft picks and they no 310 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: draft picks, right, but hey, they won that Super Bowl 311 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: in Sean mcphay's ranked number three, so right right, and hey, 312 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't the Super Bowl, I don't care what 313 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: the ramifications are. I mean, Campa is gonna be in 314 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: bad shape for a little while here too, but not 315 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: like see, I still argue on the other side of that, 316 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: I do. I mean, I I'd rather at least have 317 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: the chance to win the Super Bowl every year, as 318 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: opposed to winning it once and then stinking for the 319 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: next ten years. See. I see both sides, because obviously 320 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers are more on the get me to the 321 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: dance every year, see how it goes type of organization. 322 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: And it's been extremely fruitful and it makes rooting for 323 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the team much easier than oh, we're gonna be two 324 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: and you know, to win team for the next three 325 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: or four years. The only thing I'll fight you on 326 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: is what if the Rams are the worst team in 327 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: this league and the quarterback at USC's as good as 328 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: everybody says he is, and they end up with the 329 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: first pick in the draft. That's all well and good, 330 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: but you just named their defense and a quarterback isn't 331 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: solving their problems. No, But I do think you can 332 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: get from the duldrums if you're a good organization. Easier 333 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: in this league now than it used to be. I 334 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: will concede that. But you know, when when they're drawing 335 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty thousand fans this season because they stink, well, the 336 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: problem is a city therein is a lot of the 337 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: city that they're in the in the Chargers, you know 338 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: you've got another team there that you know it could 339 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: be pretty good. Um, you know you're gonna you're gonna 340 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: fade away and nothing this there. Um, you know, real quickly, 341 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you don't have the 342 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: wherewithal to go out and make some of the moves 343 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: that they've made. You don't have the financial, you know, 344 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: capital to go out and acquire people. Number four is 345 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. I'm fine with that. Five is Kyle Shanahan, 346 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: and I I'm so torn on Kyle Shanahan as a 347 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: head coach. Um, he loses more big games than he wins. 348 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: He does, but he gets to a lot he gets there. 349 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: That's great, but it's not every year either. With with Shanahan, 350 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of been every other year. 351 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean there's a they picked second overall to get 352 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: both and earned it. I mean his career, his career 353 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: record is fifty two and forty six. That doesn't surprise me. 354 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's not a stellar year or not a 355 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: stellar career record. Like Sean Peyton, I guess a bad 356 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: example because he's always been competitive. He doesn't have the 357 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: roller coaster seasons as a Saints head coach. But I 358 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: bring up Peyton because I think Peyton and Shanahan and 359 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Read are possibly the three best offensive minds of this generation. 360 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: So he would be high on my list. But unlike 361 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Peyton and Read, Shanahan's a better OC than he is 362 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: head coach. I would agree with that. Yeah, and their 363 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: different skill sets. It's a completely different skill set. At 364 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: six is Mike Tomlin. I mean if he was much further, 365 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: I would have a real hard time with it. I 366 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: guess I get it. Harba of o versus Tomlin, I 367 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: think favors Tomlin lately. I can completely agree, you know, 368 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: and even if you look at the career their careers 369 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: as a whole I think, you know, I look at 370 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: that and say Tomlin has been better over the course 371 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: of his career. Harpaw has won one playoff game since 372 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: they went to the super Bowl in twenty twelve, in 373 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: one like people harp on Tomlins. Tomlin's only won three 374 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: playoff games. You know, since Harpaw's record isn't much better 375 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: and Harpaw has had some losing seasons in there, Yes, right, 376 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was a NAT's eyelash away 377 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: from being fired in twenty nineteen. He was. I mean, 378 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't think as far as I know, Tomlin's job 379 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: seat has never been hot, or at least not in 380 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: the last five to ten years. Yeah, Pa was it's seven. 381 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: Is Sean McDermott good, But he's starting to get that 382 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: can you win the big one? Fuel to him. Yeah, 383 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: there's a case of another guy when we talk about 384 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: how difficult it is to win playoff games. He's got 385 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: a losing playoff record that doesn't surprise him. Yeah, and 386 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: he's had a loaded roster, the one in dv OA. 387 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: They have the second or third best quarterback. They kind 388 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: of pushed or chips in on von Miller and guys 389 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: like that, and are they gonna be the Ewing Knicks 390 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: with the Jordan Bulls being in Kansas City. Yeah. Eight 391 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: is Nick Sirianni. That's a little high for me. A 392 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: little high. I mean consider the body to works. Not 393 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: gonna play it away. Yeah, I mean he had he 394 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: had one good year last year, you know two He 395 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: was number fifteen on this list last year. Yeah, like 396 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll should probably be brought up here. Carroll should 397 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: be ahead of Nick Sirianne. Sorry. Yeah, Nine is nine 398 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: is Mike Vrabel, and I got I have no problem 399 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: with Mike Vrabel being that high, neither, but his career 400 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: records forty eight and thirty four. And they're gonna stink 401 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: this year. I think they're gonna be really bad, but 402 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't think they can. I don't know if they 403 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: could be bad enough to be a top five picking 404 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: team because I think Rabel wins two games in the 405 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: division he shouldn't, you know what I mean, probably because 406 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: the division is kind of black. Yeah, yeah, I think 407 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: he's a good coach. You know. Ten is Doug Peter 408 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: real quick, like Tomlin and Rabel were bad coaches. If 409 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: your owner wants to tank, right, Yeah, because they're gonna win. 410 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna win some games that you're like, oh you 411 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: should Yeah. Doug Peterson at ten, he righted that ship. 412 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't have him too far off of that. No, 413 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: But eleven is m Pete Carroll. I mean Carroll should 414 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: be like seven or eight. That's the same ranking that 415 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: he had as last year. I mean, yea laughing at 416 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: the you're gonna go with Drew Lockin. You know Smith, 417 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: You're never gonna win a game again. Well was Zach Taylor. 418 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's career record is twenty eight thirty six and one. 419 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: I have a problem with that one. I'm gonna sound 420 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: like such a homer, but I just think with Joe Burrow, 421 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: most competent NFL head coaches win a lot of games. 422 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: I understand the last couple of years have been very good, 423 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: including US Super Bowl appear and so I wouldn't crush him. 424 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: But I think it's more Borrow than Taylor. It's it's 425 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: almost a Mike McCarthy argument. M to a very large degree, 426 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: and he's way down this list, by the way. I 427 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: can understand that too. Twelve is Zech I'm sorry. Thirteen 428 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: is Matt Lafleur. Okay, but I bet he's trending down right. 429 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: He was eight last year. I mean when thirteen games 430 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: a row like three years a row with fourteen. Fourteen 431 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: is Dan Campbell, okay, up from eighteen last year. If 432 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't on hard knocks, and if he wasn't as 433 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: flamboyant as he would, would he be this high? Probably 434 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: some good things to Lions, but they didn't play offf 435 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: they didn't make it. Yeah, they weren't a playoff team. 436 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Fifteen is Brian day Ball. I would put him higher. 437 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: I know he's only been a head coach one year, 438 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't put him higher than that. 439 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: I just can't. After one season. Five names haven't blown 440 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: me away. Yeah. Sixteen is Kevin Stefanski. I mean this 441 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: is the neighborhood where they're all kind of the same. Yeah. 442 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: Seventeen is Mike McDaniel. Oh maybe, I honestly I don't know. Yeah, 443 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: I would say I don't feel strong yes or no 444 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: on any of these guys that would have him all 445 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: ump together too. Eighteen is Robert Sala Okay, I mean, 446 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: really bad quarterback play last year. There, he's eleven and 447 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Twenty three is the Jets head coach. That's a great right. 448 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Nineteen is Kevin O'Connell. The guy went thirteen and four 449 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: last year. They were ten and oh in one score games, 450 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: and you put him nineteenth. Yeah, I think i'd have 451 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: him over those. I mean, he did some, did some. 452 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: He was a miracle worker last year. Basically, I might 453 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: have him right next to the day ball one first 454 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: year coaches that did way more than they should have 455 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: with what right handed. Twenty is Brandon Staley. M He's 456 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: not for me, Yeah, I don't. I don't have a 457 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: problem with him being that low. I do you know. 458 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm not a Mike McCarthy fan, right right, But he's 459 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: a twenty one. He has a better body of work 460 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: than some of these dudes. Oh my god, yes, right, 461 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean. And there's another guy that we haven't mentioned 462 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: yet either that. I'm sorry, he's got to be rated 463 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: ahead of some of these guys. Arthur Smith is twenty two. 464 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: He's gotten a fair amount out of nothing. Yeah, he's 465 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: done Hayton yet. I know he's a new guy, so 466 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: maybe they're but he's got a body of work. Twenty 467 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: three is Todd Bowls. Oh, I'm not a believer. Twenty 468 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: four is Matt Eberfluss. I mean these are the unproven 469 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: seat might be getting warmer. Here's the guy. So twenty 470 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: five is Ron Rivera. How the hell do you put 471 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera below some of these guys that he has 472 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: ahead of them. Now, I'm not saying. I'm not saying 473 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is a great coach, but he's average. He's 474 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety and two. Wow, better than I thought. 475 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say he's won like forty percent 476 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: of his games, Matt. Do you know how many coaches 477 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: in league in NFL history have won one hundred games 478 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: in their career? Right? Right? Right? I say the fact 479 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: that he's gonna win a hundred this year pretty darning pressed. 480 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: I could tell you because I looked it up. Okay, 481 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: thirty five. There have been five hundred and eighteen NFL 482 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: head coaches in the history of the league. Eighteen Okay, 483 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: thirty of them have won a hundred games. Thirty one 484 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: hundred games. Thirty Wow, I wasn't that far off. Okay, Wow, 485 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: it has been thirty four head coaches who've won sixty 486 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: percent of their games, and it coached at least one hundred. Wow, 487 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: there have been thirty five five head coaches who've won 488 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Super Bowls and twenty six coaches who won multiple league championships. 489 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: And back to Rivera, he probably had the worst ownership 490 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: in the league. Help and two maybe two spots, right yeah, 491 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a solid organization with strong ownership 492 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: probably wins a couple more games. You know, Dennis Allen 493 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: is twenty six, Josh McDaniels is twenty seven, and then 494 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: the new Hires come in. Okay, I wouldn't put Peyton 495 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: with the new Hires. Is the only well Frank Reis 496 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: is on there too. Oh yeah, I think right could 497 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: be twelfth for me. I mean you talking about a 498 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: scapegoat in Indy. He's coaching up the corpse of Matt 499 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Ryan last year. Yeah. So Mike Tomlin comes in at 500 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: six on that list. It's just, you know, every time 501 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: somebody's new Steelers need to fire Mike Tomlin, blah blah blah. 502 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: He's still a top ten head coach, if not top 503 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: five in the NFL. And I think he's an easy 504 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: Hall of famer. Um turned that team around in a 505 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: big way last year. I mean, the recent stuff is strong. 506 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: It's not just resting on his laurels or living off reputation. 507 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: And a couple of these guys might be namely the 508 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: one in New England, but potentially you know so. And frankly, 509 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm picking this name out, but 510 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: if you were to fire Mike Tomlin, you're gonna end 511 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: up with Matt eber Flus. I don't know anything about 512 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: bad say about neighbor Flus, but I don't really have 513 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: anything good to say about him either. Like that's what 514 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: you want to swap out, folks, you know, Like it's 515 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: probably not better. Right, There's there's some unknown there, but 516 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: interesting list there from from NBC Sports Edge. We're gonna 517 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: take a break. He is Matt Williamson. 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