Speaker 1: This episode of Bustle with the Boys. The Boys is
Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports.
Speaker 2: You see the little one jersey in the back, dude, Taylor, Hey,
Speaker 2: you can tell has been recently put up.
Speaker 3: Yeah sad, you know.
Speaker 2: And that thing has been in a tuppleware, stuffed in
Speaker 2: the closet. Look at that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look wrinkly.
Speaker 2: I got to make sure I get it.
Speaker 3: So there there you go, right there over my shoulder,
Speaker 3: always watching, always watching, judging, looking, Look at the baby,
Speaker 3: Look at the baby.
Speaker 2: Look at the baby, Look at the baby. Nice already
Speaker 2: started off with an old school reference. And they put
Speaker 2: my blue blockers on to save my eyes. We're living.
Speaker 3: What a get up you got going right now? I
Speaker 3: got the where do you get your mask? On? Obviously
Speaker 3: for the reason.
Speaker 2: Just in case somebody comes to my house right now?
Speaker 2: Never know, I'm ready to go. I got to open
Speaker 2: the package. Never know, you need to rob somebody. Boom
Speaker 2: right there. Life's easy, man, life's easy out here in Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Bro what you're at Incinnita's right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'll be in Incinnita's for a long time.
Speaker 2: So what's the deal. So okay, anyone who's joining us
Speaker 2: right now. By the way, you're on. If this is it, we.
Speaker 1: Kind of just we we're doing it.
Speaker 2: We just gone. You're on the podcast now. Congratulations. This
Speaker 2: must be six Pro Bowls, Hall of Fame career. This
Speaker 2: has got to be top five for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is probably. I mean, I'm I've actually been
Speaker 3: wanting to be on the show since he started it,
Speaker 3: but I never got the invite. So a little bit
Speaker 3: from for a loop there, I thought, maybe you know.
Speaker 1: Joe, you've known about the show for a minute.
Speaker 3: You know, we never actually hung out either. If you
Speaker 3: were supposed to hang out all off season last year,
Speaker 3: probably it plans like nine different times and just never
Speaker 3: felt kept on falling through.
Speaker 2: Listen. I did a podcast yesterday with Chase Rice and
Speaker 2: I me and Will had to go in on him
Speaker 2: for big timing us. Oh they don't even start, they
Speaker 2: don't even start. And he took it on the chin.
Speaker 2: And he took it on the chin. Did I big
Speaker 2: time you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because you're you're here, You're here in the office,
Speaker 2: Limon World, I'm somewhere sears.
Speaker 3: Jersey is hanging up right here at the seventh.
Speaker 2: What you just now?
Speaker 3: No, No, this has been this is my office right here,
Speaker 3: and this.
Speaker 2: Is an office of helmets and Progo stuff, and then
Speaker 2: my jersey hanging over right in the middle. Yep, it's
Speaker 2: proud of you.
Speaker 1: He's proud of you.
Speaker 2: It's crazy out here.
Speaker 3: Let me if I do, if I do say so,
Speaker 3: Like if I played, if I was a rookie again,
Speaker 3: I would definitely have chosen seventy seven. That's the best
Speaker 3: lineman number.
Speaker 2: I think it really is. I appreciate you saying that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because you don't think about it too, because like
Speaker 3: you have a lot of surface area that's being covered
Speaker 3: that you need to be covered by the number and
Speaker 3: seven fourth kind of like spread out, and so it
Speaker 3: was always like weird on my stomach and it looked weird.
Speaker 4: And seventy seven is kind of nice linear lines on
Speaker 4: the offensive line kind of it's like the Nike symbol. Honestly, exactly.
Speaker 2: It's just it was exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: Always promoting. You're you're a marketer's dream.
Speaker 2: I tell you what, dude, I'm sponsored by very few things,
Speaker 2: but I'll sell my fucking soul for those things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you wouldn't You wouldn't guess it either. I
Speaker 3: mean you do you do look like a guy that
Speaker 3: is promoting everything at all times?
Speaker 2: Do I actually look like that? I'm thinking, so things
Speaker 2: are taking it. I was in a rant, I had
Speaker 2: something going. I had to say this.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: Did you do be trying to hang out several times
Speaker 2: last off season? Yes? Did it fall through every single time? Yes?
Speaker 2: Was it my fault every single time? Yes? It was.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping my head above water. I got young, I
Speaker 2: got a young kid. I'm just trying to figure out life.
Speaker 2: I'm not established like you. I don't got that. I
Speaker 2: can make all the excuses in the world. I fucked up.
Speaker 2: Look me in the eyes.
Speaker 3: They take them, take those things off real quick. Let
Speaker 3: me see.
Speaker 5: Get closer, Get closer, Taylor, get closer to the camera.
Speaker 3: But h okay, I accepted, accept the apology.
Speaker 2: Yes, so that's it's important. It's important. Listen, if I
Speaker 2: let will down, whatever, you know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 2: I let you down, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what you're saying. That that's your that's your that's
Speaker 3: your guy right there.
Speaker 1: You can't I'll tell you what, Taylor. Taylor is not
Speaker 1: that loyal. Taylor is not that loyal.
Speaker 5: Don't you fucking dare Hey, say when we get done
Speaker 5: like privately, but hey man, you know you know your
Speaker 5: but publicly he'll just shame the ship out of me. Dude,
Speaker 5: Hey man, you know, like you know, you can take jokes,
Speaker 5: You're good at taking jokes.
Speaker 2: Well, that's not what I say. I'm actually though, I
Speaker 2: Will have most Will has a sexual fetish. He needs
Speaker 2: people to verbally assault him.
Speaker 1: This is it, these are my words. That's not what
Speaker 1: I want. That's not what I want.
Speaker 2: Dude, Hey Will, you're a piece of ship. Hey, Will,
Speaker 2: go fund yourself. Like this is all due that I
Speaker 2: don't want to do this. I have to do this
Speaker 2: for him. I'm being a good friend. If anything, I'm
Speaker 2: the most loyal friend person in Will's life to date,
Speaker 2: including his fiance, including his parents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a strong and that's a strong claim right there.
Speaker 2: See I had I had both of you guys talking.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, Joey, did you say no.
Speaker 3: I was just saying that you're that entrench and you're
Speaker 3: that loyal of a friend that you know those deep
Speaker 3: dark secrets about him, And so that's how deep it
Speaker 3: goes with you guys. Right.
Speaker 2: I just know, I know that he needs that verbal assault.
Speaker 2: Some people need it. That's that fires people up. This
Speaker 2: he gets people going in the morning. And if I
Speaker 2: have to wake up every morning and do it, so
Speaker 2: will I will.
Speaker 1: It's a phenomenal pod so far. It's a phenomenal pod
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 2: Just talking ship, just spitballing, not having anything.
Speaker 1: That's the bus though, Bro, that's busting with the boys.
Speaker 2: That's just what we do.
Speaker 1: Dude, I'll tell you, you look like you lost some pounds already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like two sixty. I'm like super proud too,
Speaker 3: because I'm like that guy that that weird guy like
Speaker 3: just discovered that I'm a vegan and I'm telling every
Speaker 3: single person about it in the whole world. So I'm
Speaker 3: like anybody that asks is like, hey, what are you doing,
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I'm working out, pelotoning, I'm losing weight.
Speaker 3: Like you want to see a picture, look at this.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who said the bar though, is Joe Thomas.
Speaker 2: Hey, he ripped, ripped.
Speaker 3: He's the reason why I'm like trying. I'm like always,
Speaker 3: I'm always just one step behind in my whole entire career.
Speaker 2: That son of a bitch, dude, son of a bitch.
Speaker 3: It wasn't for Joe Thomas, my career accolades would have
Speaker 3: looked so different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you think about it, like he played for
Speaker 2: the Browns. I don't think he had a winning season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did have more team success, but individual accolades.
Speaker 3: Joe Thomas set the bar very high in that regard.
Speaker 2: So when when you retired, now that you've retired, like
Speaker 2: you don't have to be like the team, like like
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know who both Schambickler is,
Speaker 2: but a Michigan it's always the team, the team, the team.
Speaker 2: That was just ba I'm from Michigan. Course, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: but you went to Central Michigan so enough. No, hey,
Speaker 2: hey listen, you're a six time Pro Bowl But if
Speaker 2: you doubled mine.
Speaker 3: I became good enough. But at the time I was
Speaker 3: the ships coming on in high school.
Speaker 2: So you know, both Shemicker the team, team and team.
Speaker 2: Like it's like when you retire now, is it like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, team success is cool, but like what
Speaker 2: about all my accolades? Are you kind of wish you
Speaker 2: did a little more individual stuff?
Speaker 3: No? No, you know, because I think you play football obviously,
Speaker 3: it's nice to be recognized for like all the hard
Speaker 3: work and like what you're doing individually, but especially as alignment.
Speaker 3: It's like you're just kind of in train. And my
Speaker 3: mentality was never like I'm going to do what I
Speaker 3: can and make sure everybody notices me, because that kind
Speaker 3: of mentality. I just once I got in the NFL
Speaker 3: and we had started having like successful seasons, I wanted
Speaker 3: nothing more than to keep that train rolling because that
Speaker 3: feeling of like the locker room feel like going through
Speaker 3: a season, playing in playoff games, you know, playing for
Speaker 3: games that actually matter. It can't replicate that with anything.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm most proud of, like, you know,
Speaker 3: being in the playoffs, winning playoff games every time we
Speaker 3: were there, you getting the super Bowl twice. Those are
Speaker 3: experiences that I'll have for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: And you know, obviously wouldn't want to win, but you know,
Speaker 3: this wasn't in the cards for me personally, but you know,
Speaker 3: the individual accolades or or whatever, you know, I was
Speaker 3: the one thing that I was kind of proud of
Speaker 3: was the All Decade team just because that was more.
Speaker 1: Like a cool.
Speaker 3: So sick just like a career that was like a career, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, achievement kind of like just people appreciating what
Speaker 3: I've done for my whole career. But as far as
Speaker 3: like individual seasons, no, it was cool. It's cool going
Speaker 3: to like the Pro Bowl and stuff, just because I
Speaker 3: get to you know, that's how I got introduced to
Speaker 3: you meet a lot of different kind of cool people,
Speaker 3: stay in touch and just kind of meet different people
Speaker 3: because I'm not man, I played for one team my
Speaker 3: whole career, so I wasn't like making friends all across
Speaker 3: the league from you know, getting to see different people
Speaker 3: and to meet different people from different backgrounds all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So it was a cool opportunity to kind of go
Speaker 3: down there and you know, meet some of these guys
Speaker 3: that you watch on TV that you think are amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you being uh, you being on like one
Speaker 2: team your whole career, Like I feel like everybody wants that.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to play for the same team, wants to.
Speaker 3: Was that that you're on that course? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man, you never know. I might get cut tomorrow all that.
Speaker 2: You never know what's gonna happen. I might say one
Speaker 2: dumb thing on this podcast. It's all gonna be over
Speaker 2: for me. I'll be knocking on the door of San Francisco.
Speaker 3: I think they've accepted it, and I think you're a head.
Speaker 3: Coach welcomes it as well, speaking of her head and
Speaker 3: talk about him having the guy that was shipping in
Speaker 3: the corner at the.
Speaker 2: He said it, he said it was it was Tyler,
Speaker 2: his son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did he that was his son? Did he know?
Speaker 2: He goes, it's Tyler. He's not shiitting, He's sitting on
Speaker 2: a bar stol. All I did was send him the
Speaker 2: picture of oh, he Oh, it's Tyler, He's sitting on
Speaker 2: the bar stool, and in my head him like, I
Speaker 2: feel that it's a little weird that you were already
Speaker 2: ready for that answer the minute I said to you
Speaker 2: you you were like he was on defense mode right away.
Speaker 5: Well, I think everybody was probably hitting him up because
Speaker 5: I hit him up too, Like, yo, is he He said, no,
Speaker 5: it's Tyler.
Speaker 1: He's just taking a ship.
Speaker 2: He's not taking a ship on a stool.
Speaker 5: Hey, but have you seen him on barstool feud with us?
Speaker 5: The dude is the dude is drafting. The draft was
Speaker 5: going on, it was happening, and he was playing barstool
Speaker 5: feud with his family. Feud edition the Barstool World and
Speaker 5: playing with us while the draft is happening. So Rave's
Speaker 5: definitely like about the boys. Dude, he's about He's about
Speaker 5: this stuff.
Speaker 2: It's so funny too, because if you anytime I talked
Speaker 2: to him, I swear to God, the guy hates me.
Speaker 2: And then he goes. He comes on our podcast, he
Speaker 2: does barstool feud. But when I'm in like I was
Speaker 2: in Ota meetings today and like, sure enough he pops
Speaker 2: on the zoom meeting because we're doing zooms and he's like,
Speaker 2: take a hood off, like he's on me. He's about
Speaker 2: it right away, Like he gets on the boy quite
Speaker 2: a bit. But you never know, man, John, John and
Speaker 2: Vrabel are like. John's very like I think a lot
Speaker 2: like the Patriots, where he's like, doesn't like guys being
Speaker 2: too loud or too obnoxious. And I think John has
Speaker 2: just learned to accept my personality, my rambunctious, outgoing personality
Speaker 2: and founding like not necessarily a need for it. But
Speaker 2: he's he's, uh, I guess appreciated it up to a point.
Speaker 2: But I think there's been a few times I've towed
Speaker 2: the line a little bit.
Speaker 3: That's your personality. That's part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. But you're talking about you're done with
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl and like meeting people. It's like I
Speaker 2: was telling will about this the other day, like how
Speaker 2: I got your jersey, and I remember because like, dude,
Speaker 2: like I've I've told you this before. I've looked up
Speaker 2: to you since I got into the NFL, like watching
Speaker 2: guys like you, Joe Thomas, Trent Williams, Tyron Smith, like
Speaker 2: those dudes that have been like at the top of
Speaker 2: their game for a while. You watch those guys and
Speaker 2: you're just like, what are they up to? What are
Speaker 2: they doing? So I get there, I think it's like
Speaker 2: what two years ago it was my it was my
Speaker 2: third Pro Bowl? It was your fifth or sixth?
Speaker 3: Yeah, my last one probably, I don't I don't make
Speaker 3: it for the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: So is your six Pro Bowl? And I remember I
Speaker 2: came up to you. We were talking a little bit,
Speaker 2: chatting up, and I was like, man, I love be
Speaker 2: one of your jerseys, and You're like, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: And then I left alone for a day. I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, he's gonna do it. He's gonna send it
Speaker 2: over Because people who don't know and there's NFC locker
Speaker 2: rooms and AFC locker rooms. They're right next to each other,
Speaker 2: but like, you don't wantly go on the other one.
Speaker 2: And we came back from practice one day I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I gotta I got to put put the ball in
Speaker 2: his court. So I went and signed my own jersey.
Speaker 2: I put it over your chair and there just crossed
Speaker 2: my fingers. From from then on, like, man, I hope,
Speaker 2: I hope to God I get a daily jersey and
Speaker 2: you delivered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I would.
Speaker 2: I was very happy, very proud of that.
Speaker 3: I've had some really interesting exchanges over the years with
Speaker 3: people with that, like Richie Incognito. I have one of
Speaker 3: his helmets actually right there, and I had I think.
Speaker 3: All he wrote was like I love you have my babies,
Speaker 3: Richie Incognito.
Speaker 2: I got Richie signed a helmet for me and it
Speaker 2: literally says I made you. You owe me everything, Richie.
Speaker 2: At least it's original.
Speaker 3: I'm not that witty to come up with something like
Speaker 3: that creative on this spot or like that shocking. That's
Speaker 3: it's like, hey, man, all the best, well wishes, Yeah,
Speaker 3: appreciate you in your career.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 5: For the first time I met him, he was like, oh,
Speaker 5: you're that undersized backer from the Redskins.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, He's like, you know how to fucking kill you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: He Nebraska boys, He's like, yeah, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: The dude is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Man. That guy's a wild guy.
Speaker 2: He's a he's a wild animal, no doubt. He needs
Speaker 2: some tranquilizes every once in a while. But he's a
Speaker 2: good dude. He means, well, oh yeah, that's all.
Speaker 3: You get very very shocked because I heard stories about
Speaker 3: him throughout the years, and meeting him for the first time,
Speaker 3: I was very shocked at how like down to earth
Speaker 3: and nice and but he's like he has a different
Speaker 3: side of him, and he likes to party parties.
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's all about It's all about having that bounce, right,
Speaker 2: Like everybody likes to get down, have a couple of drinks, extracurriculous,
Speaker 2: whatever you're into, dude, you want. But you know, I
Speaker 2: think he finds a good balance. I think during the
Speaker 2: season he was really a job of calming it down
Speaker 2: for sure. Oh yeah, but so you retire for four days, dude,
Speaker 2: what's how did that? Like? There was like a rumor
Speaker 2: because I know Mike Sullivan and you know Sloley pretty well, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so so so he's always been a big fan of you,
Speaker 2: and he's always preaching about how much better you are
Speaker 2: than me to me, which is always really fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he was saying something to me like you there
Speaker 2: was a rumor going around, no question, there's a rumor
Speaker 2: going around that you were gonna, like you were saying
Speaker 2: about retire a few years ago before that your new
Speaker 2: coach came in. Is that true? And how that why'd
Speaker 2: you decide to stay if it was?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we had just got done with two and
Speaker 3: fourteen year it was miserable, we were making a coaching change,
Speaker 3: kind of gutted the whole entire franchise. I knew there
Speaker 3: was gonna be a huge turnaround, not even just from
Speaker 3: the coaching staff, but this roster. And I was excited
Speaker 3: about Kyle coming in because I had heard so much
Speaker 3: good things about him when he was in Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 3: they just came off with a Super Bowl appearance, and
Speaker 3: so I was excited about him coming in. But I
Speaker 3: just didn't know like how long it was going to take.
Speaker 3: And then my body at that time, I was dealing
Speaker 3: with a lot of knee stuff. And you know, when
Speaker 3: you're dealing with like chronic knee pain, it just feels
Speaker 3: like it's never going to end. You know. It's just like,
Speaker 3: oh god, my knees hurt every single day just getting
Speaker 3: in my position and coming out of my stance and
Speaker 3: like all this stuff like lifting, you know, I was
Speaker 3: getting trained, and yeah, it's just everything. It's just taxing.
Speaker 3: And so it's just like, all right, is this going
Speaker 3: to be a huge rebuild? You know, my body is
Speaker 3: really hurt, and I still want to play football, but like,
Speaker 3: you know, I want to talk to these guys first
Speaker 3: and kind of make a decision. So that was about
Speaker 3: at the extent of it. And then once I met
Speaker 3: Kyle and John and kind of like set me down,
Speaker 3: I was just and then we went to nine and
Speaker 3: and then I was like what am I doing here?
Speaker 3: But then then we turn it around, and then then
Speaker 3: then they're awesome. Man. They're just like an unbeievable staff
Speaker 3: and and John John has done a tremendous job too,
Speaker 3: like bringing in guys that like love football, you know,
Speaker 3: so one thing to have guys that are like really
Speaker 3: really talented. But he did a great job of like
Speaker 3: not only finding those guys, but piecing together a roster
Speaker 3: that was like full of dude, they're just excited about
Speaker 3: coming to work and playing the game of football and
Speaker 3: getting better and you know they might not have like
Speaker 3: Rahm raheem are running back like dominated the end of
Speaker 3: the end of the season for us, and he was
Speaker 3: a special teams dude that was just like really content
Speaker 3: on being a special team's ace for us. And then
Speaker 3: he would get a couple of carries here and there
Speaker 3: in practice, but he was never one of those guys
Speaker 3: that complained about like, man, I'm a running back, I
Speaker 3: think they'd be getting the ball more. It was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm a gunner and I'm gonna be the best gunner
Speaker 3: I can be. So they had finally he found like
Speaker 3: a lot of guys like that that just make football fun.
Speaker 3: And it was really funny too because they when I
Speaker 3: first met with him, they this is like exactly what
Speaker 3: they told me. They're like, we're gonna bring these the
Speaker 3: players and then it's going to be a huge turnaround,
Speaker 3: and it's going to be the guys that you I
Speaker 3: think are built like and that you want to be around,
Speaker 3: and we're going to do a really good job of
Speaker 3: trying to identify all those people, and then you know,
Speaker 3: the first year is not going to go well. And
Speaker 3: in the second year, hopefully we'll get a quarterback in
Speaker 3: here and then things will kind of turn around a
Speaker 3: little bit for us. But that third year is really
Speaker 3: going to be the year we kind of think we're
Speaker 3: going to take off. And it was like exactly what
Speaker 3: they told me three years ago. It was like what
Speaker 3: happened for Oh, how.
Speaker 5: Is how involved is John in like around like the
Speaker 5: team environment, not in the locker room, but just around
Speaker 5: the players and stuff around you guys a lot.
Speaker 3: Just being oh yeah, yeah, he's always in there. I
Speaker 3: mean he's always in the locker room, he's in the
Speaker 3: meeting rooms. He speaks a lot to like the team
Speaker 3: meetings and stuff and guys, really, I mean it's one
Speaker 3: thing to have the general manager in there, you know,
Speaker 3: because if he's not a player, but because it's John
Speaker 3: Lynch and he was a player, it's really high level.
Speaker 3: For a long time. You know, guys really respect his
Speaker 3: opinion on like how do we approach this week, and
Speaker 3: you know, his input on uh, you know, different things
Speaker 3: that we have to focus on. I mean, he's really
Speaker 3: prevalent in that locker room and he does a great job.
Speaker 3: He's not just like a figurehead. I mean he's really
Speaker 3: involved in everything.
Speaker 2: M hm. Three. So three years down, three years on
Speaker 2: the road, you're you're sitting there and you're like, oh nine,
Speaker 2: fuck my life. The next year is pretty decent. We
Speaker 2: got Jimmy g that offseason right that second year, cam
Speaker 2: In No.
Speaker 3: We got Jimmy the first year in the trade so
Speaker 3: we went oh and nine and then we made a
Speaker 3: trade right at the trade deadline, and then Jimmy sat
Speaker 3: for like three or four weeks he had to learn
Speaker 3: the offense. And then the last five games he sat
Speaker 3: for like two weeks, and then like the last five
Speaker 3: games he played and we went. We ended up going
Speaker 3: five and out at the end of the season that.
Speaker 2: Year because that's that's when Jimmy trade. Everyone was about it.
Speaker 5: Everyone was he and then uh that uh what was
Speaker 5: it was a pin want to start too?
Speaker 1: He was out, he was out.
Speaker 3: With I think that was that off season that he
Speaker 3: had that little porn star incident.
Speaker 1: And how much ship did you guys give him.
Speaker 2: All the time?
Speaker 3: And what was funny was like he was in the
Speaker 3: in the moment, he was like well yeah, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: she talk to me, and what you're not gonna respond,
Speaker 3: So like he didn't like even think it was like
Speaker 3: a big deal. Well it's not a big deal, but
Speaker 3: like you got to know that you're gonna be like
Speaker 3: it's gonna get blown up. He's like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know if we were in that bar for like ten seconds,
Speaker 3: I don't know why he you know, someone even got
Speaker 3: a picture, so whatever. He was so casual about the
Speaker 3: whole thing, like he did not care that he was
Speaker 3: in the news and then care about like whatever.
Speaker 5: It's funny, Yeah, yeah, that's funny, dude.
Speaker 2: Look, everyone's got to make a living a certain way, right,
Speaker 2: I got his dad says that, you know, if someone
Speaker 2: someone's gonna do it, why not you. You know what,
Speaker 2: someone probably told her that a long time would go
Speaker 2: good for her if you make good money. Not my profession.
Speaker 2: I don't like you. You and I have never been
Speaker 2: in the locker room together, so you've never seen this piece.
Speaker 2: But it's not worth filming. It's really just it's a
Speaker 2: it's a novelty piece. Novel. It's like a four it's
Speaker 2: like a four cylinder Conda Civic. It'll run, it'll run forever.
Speaker 2: But if you want to get somewhere fast, it's not
Speaker 2: going to help you out.
Speaker 3: As long it doesn't need a lot of maintenance and
Speaker 3: you're all good.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, oil change every every like ten thousand miles.
Speaker 2: Dude that this thing is is it comes and goes
Speaker 2: and always it's always there for me.
Speaker 3: I know the use of words there, I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it comes and go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. But so so Jimmy's there, Jimmy's
Speaker 2: banging paw porn stars, He's crushing it. Guy tears his
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Speaker 2: but actually ended up working out for you because you've
Speaker 2: got an absolute stud in Nick Bosa.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it was, I mean everything kind of fell
Speaker 3: Jimmy doesn't get his torn a cl week three and
Speaker 3: then are kind of season turns around. We aren't running
Speaker 3: the position obviously to get Nick. It was funny that year.
Speaker 3: I remember, we have this thing. After training camp's done,
Speaker 3: Kyle has like everybody, all the players and people that
Speaker 3: are on the football outside. After training camps over and
Speaker 3: we break and if you make the roster, then you're
Speaker 3: invited to his house and he has like a huge
Speaker 3: Bass to kind of end training camp. And so we're
Speaker 3: at that party after the second his second training camp,
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there talking with Robert Salah as our coordinator,
Speaker 3: and he's telling me, he's like, dude, there's this kid
Speaker 3: in college. He's like, we're gonna add him next year.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna be unbelievable. You know. It's Nick Bosa
Speaker 3: from Ohiose date, Like, you have to see this kid.
Speaker 3: He's like, unbelievable. He's gonna truly transform our defense. In
Speaker 3: my mind, I'm like, he's not a fucking shot in
Speaker 3: the world. We're gonna get him. It means we're gonna
Speaker 3: be like the number one overall picking the fucking draft.
Speaker 2: Like I hope we will have this kid or yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then it transpired that we ended up getting them
Speaker 3: and we ended up having a bad year, and then
Speaker 3: he was yeah, he's that dude is special. You know.
Speaker 3: I was around.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was around Alden when Alden was tearing up
Speaker 3: the league a free back in like twenty eleven, twelve thirteen,
Speaker 3: and I never thought I would see a guy that
Speaker 3: was as talented as Alden was. But Nick is, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's every bit as good as as Alden was, and
Speaker 3: that kid is uh kids really special. Actually never have
Speaker 3: played against his brother Joey, but just watching him, it's like, uh,
Speaker 3: he's just yeah, the kid's gonna be unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Busting you have banger of those parties after training camp.
Speaker 3: Oh they're awesome, they're awesome. I had no cell phone policy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: everybody just get.
Speaker 1: Just destroyed.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I had because I had Mike Shanahan really well.
Speaker 3: So he got it I think from his dad because
Speaker 3: his Dad used to do it when you're coaching with
Speaker 3: the Broncos and the Redskins and all that. So he
Speaker 3: did that his whole time coaching, and I think, you know,
Speaker 3: it's awesome. Everybody looks forward to it.
Speaker 5: We had like a gambling set up. Shanahan was walking
Speaker 5: around in a shirt like you got on. It was
Speaker 5: like a Hawaiian theme because there's always a theme, and
Speaker 5: dudes got like there's sushi platters coming around everywhere, There's
Speaker 5: cocktail literally everything.
Speaker 1: Bro, It's it's like, yo, where am I? Like we
Speaker 1: just ended training camp.
Speaker 5: And then there's like he had like fake it was
Speaker 5: like fake money at casino set up kind of a
Speaker 5: are like yes, dude, I got season tickets, like sweet
Speaker 5: tickets that for the entire year, so you know, I'm
Speaker 5: trying to make make a living on the Peace Squad. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 5: be careful, be careful on this pot. Be careful on
Speaker 5: this pot. I don't know if that's it, but I
Speaker 5: remember getting it because I was like fourth in the
Speaker 5: rankings and people were getting like overnight trips and you know,
Speaker 5: these big things, and I'm like hoping that I could
Speaker 5: get something that I can kind of competitive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, Trey Williams was walking around trying to like
Speaker 1: trying to fuck everything up. Dude, I was so pissed off,
Speaker 1: like being a younger, you can't do nothing like Yo,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you got everything like love. I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be here.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 3: To that ends up with like way, way more than
Speaker 3: you think anybody should have me, Like, yeah, did you
Speaker 3: get all them?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They're like scamming the fucking people. You're like, man, I
Speaker 1: was winning, Like you get the fuck out of he
Speaker 1: you know you weren't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't do ship like that over here.
Speaker 1: I only got to do that one year.
Speaker 5: But Taylor, it's that, like it was the most fun dude,
Speaker 5: Like that's the way to do a post training camp celebration.
Speaker 2: Did I gotta get on braves about that?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: We got to have a big sellary like that. That'd
Speaker 2: be awesome, have a big booze fest with the boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They did the Christmas party up there like that. Uh here.
Speaker 2: I've never been to the Christmas party though, so I
Speaker 2: don't have any room to talk. It is what it
Speaker 2: is you said. You said, Trent Williams, how did that
Speaker 2: like whole thing go down? When you were talking everybody like,
Speaker 2: did you tell the forty nine ers like, hey, like
Speaker 2: I'm going to retire, Like you should find a replacement
Speaker 2: for me, you should go get trip.
Speaker 3: No. So, I mean I was kind of going through
Speaker 3: the whole process in the off season. I knew my
Speaker 3: neck was pretty my neck was pretty fucked up during
Speaker 3: the end of the year, and it got pretty bad
Speaker 3: in the playoffs in Super Bowl, and so I knew
Speaker 3: I was gonna have to go see a bunch of
Speaker 3: doctors after the year to kind of figure out what
Speaker 3: was going on. And so once I did that, I
Speaker 3: was in constant communication with the with the Niners and
Speaker 3: stuff while I was doing all that stuff, so they
Speaker 3: knew that I was thinking about, you know, retirement. And
Speaker 3: then I set a deadline basically for myself and make
Speaker 3: a decision by the draft. And so I told I
Speaker 3: think they were already working on it obviously, and they
Speaker 3: kind of had a contingency plan, but they were expecting
Speaker 3: me to kind of come back. And then I told
Speaker 3: them like a week before the draft, you know, I
Speaker 3: made my decision, talk to everybody, told it was one
Speaker 3: hundred percent and to move on and do what they
Speaker 3: needed to do. And then I think they already had
Speaker 3: that kind of peace to fall back on, and then
Speaker 3: you know, once they got the work for me, they
Speaker 3: just move forward with it and it will get that done.
Speaker 3: And I think Trent really wanted to be with kyler Gan.
Speaker 2: Two, so you actually so they were waiting on you
Speaker 2: to say, yeah. I'm for sure they actually had that
Speaker 2: thing all in place.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly what like their timetable was as
Speaker 3: far as like thirty had it in place or whatever,
Speaker 3: but I know they had probably because they were already
Speaker 3: aware that I was there was a possibility that I
Speaker 3: was gonna be retiring in that offseason. So I think
Speaker 3: they were kind of doing their you know, diligence on
Speaker 3: everybody in their options if I did so once I
Speaker 3: said yes, they just you know, move forward with it
Speaker 3: and cut the deal done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's it. That's a hell of an option
Speaker 2: to have to have, like, you know, one Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame guy go out to another Hall of Fame guy
Speaker 2: go in that for the forty nine ers, dude. And
Speaker 2: they did it on like a trade that like what
Speaker 2: was like a third and a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, third and the fifth. I mean Laramie went for
Speaker 3: two first and then they get for a third and
Speaker 3: the fifth.
Speaker 2: How about that contract? Did that not make you want
Speaker 2: to go like, hey, I'll go for another lad another
Speaker 2: lap though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you know this year was Did you know
Speaker 5: this year was going to be the last year?
Speaker 3: No? I did not. I mean I didn't know, because
Speaker 3: I didn't. I just knew that I broke my leg whatever,
Speaker 3: and then missed some games and I came back and
Speaker 3: you know, I had had to get finger surgery of
Speaker 3: all fucking things and miss some games. And then but
Speaker 3: when I was coming back, my neck and my back
Speaker 3: were like starting to really like hurt a ton, and
Speaker 3: I was just thinking that it was just because I
Speaker 3: was out of football and I wasn't really playing. I
Speaker 3: was can't get back into it, and then it just
Speaker 3: kept on progressively getting worse. So I knew that I
Speaker 3: was probably gonna have to you know, get something done
Speaker 3: or like you know, probably gonna have an injury or
Speaker 3: whatever after the season to deal with. And then when
Speaker 3: I went and saw these doctors, it was like I
Speaker 3: realized how serious it was, and they were kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, if you continue to play, you're gonna really
Speaker 3: do some you know, long term damage. So it was
Speaker 3: kind of a decision basically, with a bunch of different
Speaker 3: opinions and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Was it more of a structural thing or it was
Speaker 2: like a nerve oun't You don't need to go into
Speaker 2: the details of it, but like, was it like you
Speaker 2: were getting a bunch of stingers or were you like
Speaker 2: just couldn't even turn your neck?
Speaker 3: It was all of that stuff. I mean, it was
Speaker 3: a bunch of stingers. Like when I was playing games.
Speaker 3: It's like it got to the point where in the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, like I made contact with my head with anybody,
Speaker 3: like i'd have from the base of my neck down
Speaker 3: to my back, I'd have like this a zing and
Speaker 3: like my arms are going on. But I ended up
Speaker 3: basically it was like I had herniations at like a
Speaker 3: bunch of different levels and then really severe stenosis. And
Speaker 3: then the guy was like, you know, if you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to, you know, continue to play football, you're probably
Speaker 3: gonna have to have next fusion surgery on multiple levels.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm thirty five and I got kids.
Speaker 3: I don't want to not be able to turn my
Speaker 3: neck for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: So that's crazy putting that into perspective.
Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, it's gotta be. It was kind of a
Speaker 3: shock because I wasn't, like you said, I was not
Speaker 3: expecting it, and so I wasn't like telling anybody like
Speaker 3: hey man, this is my last season or whatever. It
Speaker 3: was just like kind of all came suddenly right right away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell it was a shock to a
Speaker 2: lot of people. The way Kittle's video to you came out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Kittle thought.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you just watched that video, say, you
Speaker 5: have no context, You just watched George Kittle's video, like
Speaker 5: you just maybe you just came over here from America
Speaker 5: and you watched George Kittle's video.
Speaker 1: You're thinking, oh, this guy must have died. Exactly.
Speaker 2: I was like, it is really nice.
Speaker 3: I just I didn't die, though.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still.
Speaker 1: Gonna hey, yeah, I know, yo, shout out George Kittle.
Speaker 1: He came on too. But I was watching that. I
Speaker 1: was like, manlo, it was really good words by him.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
Speaker 5: But I'm sitting there like, yo, this kid, I mean,
Speaker 5: this is like a funeral speech, dude, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: That's why I was telling my wife too. I was like,
Speaker 3: I feel like, like I'm one of my best friends
Speaker 3: from the league. I don't know if you guys know
Speaker 3: Daniel Kilgore he played for He just got cut from
Speaker 3: Miami though, but he was with Miami. But I played
Speaker 3: with him for like eight years in San Francisco and
Speaker 3: he was so he was down in Miami, like packing
Speaker 3: up his house. And so he has a kid and
Speaker 3: his wife and they're up in Tennessee. So he's by
Speaker 3: himself down in Miami packing up his house and he's
Speaker 3: drinking throughout the day when this whole thing is going
Speaker 3: on on Saturday, and so he's like texting me. He's like, dude,
Speaker 3: I just he keeps on sending me like pictures and
Speaker 3: like a video of like when we were playing together
Speaker 3: and stuff, and he's like, man, just going through like
Speaker 3: these old times. Man, It's just like he just had
Speaker 3: a special career and it was like, you know, real cool.
Speaker 3: And then at the at the end of like the
Speaker 3: day and the night, he's like starts texting me like, man,
Speaker 3: the wh I'm just getting so emotional over here also,
Speaker 3: and I like facetimed him and he seriously was sitting
Speaker 3: there in his house, drunk off his ass, crying I'm
Speaker 3: not fucking dead like I'm I'm just retired.
Speaker 2: Love you, bro. You that's crazy the amount of people
Speaker 2: you affected though, it's like people legitimate you're dead now,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's alive.
Speaker 2: He's alive, guys, he's alive. He's gotta feel good though,
Speaker 2: four days, one longer than Jesus, you did it.
Speaker 1: I did it, went on that solid jokes, solid joke
Speaker 1: by the.
Speaker 2: Part tell me, hey, it's got it's crazy.
Speaker 5: I got to feel good though, knowing, Uh, it's got
Speaker 5: to feel good though, knowing you've impacted people in that way,
Speaker 5: like you know, I've I've read some things the past
Speaker 5: few days on you, and you're just known as like
Speaker 5: you have all these accolades, six Pro bowls, you played
Speaker 5: thirteen years, you've been part of this, part of that
Speaker 5: you've done everything is an individual, but you're also like
Speaker 5: the ultimate teammate and it seems like the ultimate friend.
Speaker 1: To a lot of these guys. It's got to feel
Speaker 1: good knowing that people are like paying homage, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: It was really actually pretty overwhelming this weekend because I
Speaker 3: don't know, it's like and I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people have like similar experiences that you just you don't
Speaker 3: really understand or you don't aren't aware of how you're
Speaker 3: being watched and how you're affecting other people. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to The way I act and communicate
Speaker 3: with people is not because I'm doing something and trying
Speaker 3: to like, hey, you know, when I retire, I hope
Speaker 3: you guys remember this the same nice things about me,
Speaker 3: the way you are, so you're not really aware of
Speaker 3: like how people are perceiving you, and you just you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just always trying to treat people with respect and
Speaker 3: you know, be a friend and a teammate for them
Speaker 3: and trying to motivate and motivate them in different ways
Speaker 3: when I was playing with them, And it was really
Speaker 3: kind of overwhelming because you didn't realize. I guess I
Speaker 3: didn't realize how you know, impactful some of my you know,
Speaker 3: words that I would say to some people, or just
Speaker 3: the way that I acted and carry myself from the
Speaker 3: building word to some people. So you know, it was
Speaker 3: really cool. Yeah, definitely was meaningful for me, just to
Speaker 3: you know, kind of reminisce and go over a lot
Speaker 3: of stories and you know, it's a long time man
Speaker 3: thirteen years is. Uh, there's a lot of you come
Speaker 3: in contact with and me, and uh, you'll tell you
Speaker 3: you'll have a you guys will both have a similar experience.
Speaker 3: You know, when you guys are are done after a
Speaker 3: long career, it's just gonna be a weird, uh transition
Speaker 3: because uh realize how many people that you've been fortunateenough
Speaker 3: to be around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't even think about that right now. It's
Speaker 2: like I thought to myself about, like, man, what happens
Speaker 2: when you retire? Like what are you gonna do? It's
Speaker 2: like you just think, like especially when you're in high
Speaker 2: school and you realize, like football is what you want
Speaker 2: to do, like using that that ship lasts forever. You're like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play football and then event should I'll just
Speaker 2: die and that'll be it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that and I could apparently because everybody, Hey,
Speaker 3: we got.
Speaker 1: The footage, we got the speeches all prepared.
Speaker 2: Dude, the eulogy is everywhere. It's sad, sad to see
Speaker 2: you go. Man said to be talking to a ghost
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 5: It's crazy to think, though, like you spend twenty something
Speaker 5: years of your life preparing for a career.
Speaker 1: On average, at last three and a half.
Speaker 5: You fortunately played thirteen Taylor, You're gonna play a shitload,
Speaker 5: just yeah.
Speaker 1: And then when you're done, like you said.
Speaker 5: You're what thirty thirty thirty five, you're thirty five years old,
Speaker 5: like you know, hopefully you know, knock on wood, you
Speaker 5: haven't even lived half your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've still our entire life like just prepared, like
Speaker 1: just wanting to do this one thing.
Speaker 5: Like Taylor said, you you prepare like you think you're
Speaker 5: gonn play football and you're gonna die, And it's like, yo,
Speaker 5: you're you know, you're not even really you haven't even
Speaker 5: lived half your life yet.
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Speaker 3: and reached probably the highest level that you can at
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Speaker 5: you said, you basically start over. We start over in
Speaker 5: a sense, right, but we've reached the pinnacle, like we've
Speaker 5: ridden this roller coaster. That's that's just we've had this
Speaker 5: chase to get to the top, and we've gotten there,
Speaker 5: and it's like, you get done and you're trying to
Speaker 5: find like that next passion that's gonna take you on
Speaker 5: that ride again because we've experienced something that you know,
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Speaker 5: so much trouble transitioning because it's like you just can't
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Speaker 3: I think that's really hard to do, and I think
Speaker 3: it's a lot of people that I've heard that have
Speaker 3: been retired is like have given me the advice of
Speaker 3: like trying don't try to chase that because it's almost
Speaker 3: impossible to like recreate that. You know, you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to have like competitive outlets and stuff like that in
Speaker 3: some capacity, but you know, to find that unless you're
Speaker 3: gonna become like a musician. You know, it's we're entertainers
Speaker 3: and basically what our sport is, it's like entertainment that
Speaker 3: we you know, entertain the masses, reminding gladiators and and
Speaker 3: there's not professions that are out there that you're performing
Speaker 3: for millions of people at what you do, right, So,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's going to be key to
Speaker 3: like find some competitive outlets and all that. But I
Speaker 3: don't have any kind of dreams of you know, chasing
Speaker 3: that high again. You know, I live that and it
Speaker 3: was definitely a fun ride. But I think what I
Speaker 3: would like to do, obviously, is like use all that
Speaker 3: knowledge that I acquired over the years of just you know,
Speaker 3: trying to play football at a high level and try
Speaker 3: to like use that knowledge and try to pay it
Speaker 3: forward to you know, guys coming out of college and
Speaker 3: do like some training with them. And then I think
Speaker 3: maybe down the road, I could get my wife around
Speaker 3: that a little bit. But you know, try to get
Speaker 3: into coaching. That would be fun. I'll probably be you know,
Speaker 3: probably start out as like a drunk guy, be uh,
Speaker 3: you know, and then I work my way to be
Speaker 3: an assistant offensive line coach for the Titans. Make Taylor's
Speaker 3: life a living hell. And then, because of all the
Speaker 3: positive work that I did with him, can get head
Speaker 3: on the coach.
Speaker 2: We'll get you, and then you so you got Soley's
Speaker 2: job right now, you try to take Soley's job.
Speaker 1: By that time, hopefully he's an old line coach or
Speaker 1: at OC somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I mean, if you walked in the door
Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, what's up. I'm your I'm your
Speaker 2: own line coach, I'll be like, the fuck he did it.
Speaker 2: He fucking did he did it.
Speaker 3: He did it.
Speaker 2: He said he was gonna do it, and he did it. Dude,
Speaker 2: that ship would be crazy.
Speaker 3: I'd buck him up. Your fucking joy rides over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you had fun. Blan here well, ship,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a couple of years out from
Speaker 2: doing that. He started as a grunt guy. I'm saying
Speaker 2: I at least got four or five years. I'll be
Speaker 2: in your twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 3: Then that would be perfect. That'll be perfect timing. I
Speaker 3: can I can guide you gently through the the the
Speaker 3: twilight of your career.
Speaker 2: Did you like Taylor?
Speaker 1: He could be he could be a fill in. He
Speaker 1: could be a fill in too. He could be on
Speaker 1: the bus.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That honestly, because Will and I were talking about this
Speaker 2: when you when you and I were texting after you're retired,
Speaker 2: like and you were like, hey, get me on the bus.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's so crazy. He wants to be
Speaker 2: on it. And I was like, I know, you've done
Speaker 2: a lot of like publicity stuff, like I see you
Speaker 2: in the Pepsi commercials, You're doing TV shows and all that,
Speaker 2: Like why not do a podcast, dude? It's easy, it's fun.
Speaker 2: You can do a specific football on when you just
Speaker 2: talk shop and you can teach those that those younger
Speaker 2: kids before you transition to be a coach.
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys are offering me a job right now
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 5: There's no reason that we can't busting with the boys,
Speaker 5: Like the boys can't be branched out in different areas,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Where does it stop? I mean, you start adding me
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, you got four or
Speaker 3: five more guys, and then it's just busting with the
Speaker 3: the group of boys.
Speaker 1: Busting with the boys.
Speaker 5: Though, you know what I'm saying, Maybe it's something different,
Speaker 5: Maybe it's like, I don't know, I can't think of
Speaker 5: it right now. But when when Taylor was saying that,
Speaker 5: I was like, because me personally, I knew you, like
Speaker 5: I knew you were a good football player, but since
Speaker 5: you were like on the West Coast in San fran
Speaker 5: I actually identified you and followed you based on your
Speaker 5: YouTube videos back when I was younger. That's how I
Speaker 5: knew who you were. But thought you were a funny cat,
Speaker 5: thought you were had solid jokes. You kind of did
Speaker 5: the whole YouTube channel thing. You know, you're kind of
Speaker 5: an og. You've been around the block a while, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, And I always thought you were
Speaker 5: really humorous in and that's how I got to know
Speaker 5: who you were, just based on your locker room presence
Speaker 5: and doing like, you know, doing little skits, doing a little.
Speaker 3: Bit doing that because they used to We had a
Speaker 3: guy that was doing the videos for the Niners at
Speaker 3: the time, and he asked me to do that, and
Speaker 3: they didn't cut anything, so they just like put whatever
Speaker 3: I did, and so I started kind of like pushing
Speaker 3: it that first. It starts off and it was kind
Speaker 3: of like, you know, you're just interviewing your teammates and
Speaker 3: you're asking them whatever. But then they start, you know,
Speaker 3: I start throwing a little like sarcastic joke in there,
Speaker 3: and they don't cut it, and then I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I can get away with some more here, and so
Speaker 3: then it just turned into like basically me roasting my teammates.
Speaker 3: And they used to like not cut that at all,
Speaker 3: and so I tried to bring it back. I cut
Speaker 3: it for a little bit and stopped doing it because
Speaker 3: we were losing, and I was like, that's kind of bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Taylor face this year, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're two and fourteen and uh, we're out here
Speaker 3: joking about everything. So I kind of took it away
Speaker 3: for a while and then I started bringing it back,
Speaker 3: and they started, you know, the Times of Change and
Speaker 3: everything is kind of like PC now, So they started
Speaker 3: cutting a lot of like the stuff that would put
Speaker 3: in there because I don't know, they thought I was
Speaker 3: like being too uh, you know, mean to my teammates
Speaker 3: or whatever. So you know what I'm going on and
Speaker 3: loved it, but I think they just didn't want to
Speaker 3: put it on the official channel.
Speaker 1: So I just guess who doesn't cut? Guess who doesn't cut?
Speaker 2: It. We don't.
Speaker 1: We don't bust with the boys. We don't.
Speaker 2: You can be Joe wa wash this Penis that's gonna
Speaker 2: be on there. Ja, Hey, Penis is fine, but Vagina
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, man, it's a little heavy.
Speaker 3: And you heard his purple headed Patty Wacker.
Speaker 2: Dude, it would be so easy for you to do
Speaker 2: a podcast, so easy, did Joe show two point oh?
Speaker 2: Like Pat McAfee show two point oh.
Speaker 3: You guys have the best setup of any podcast that
Speaker 3: I've seen. Though. That little thing that you guys have,
Speaker 3: the bust, the vehicle, the optics are unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I don't remember whose idea it was,
Speaker 2: but it's the best idea any one of us have
Speaker 2: ever had in our entire lives.
Speaker 5: Listen, Taylor, I don't I don't shy away from giving
Speaker 5: you the credit that you deserve. Bro Taylor found that bus.
Speaker 5: I said no at first because I'm thinking, how do
Speaker 5: we get equipment? Because when we found it, it was
Speaker 5: behind the garage, like over in Nashville. Like one of
Speaker 5: our buddies. Juice shout out, Juice, Juice, you saw the bus,
Speaker 5: And he's like, hey, you think you guys are going
Speaker 5: to buy this, like, you know, that could be cool.
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't want to, but I know
Speaker 5: when Taylor sees the bus, he's gonna want to buy it,
Speaker 5: because that's the boy. We went out there like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is fucking riffs, dude. He's like, Yo, we should
Speaker 5: buy this, right. I was like, ah, you know, I
Speaker 5: kind of started to know I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know, man, how are we going
Speaker 5: to get everything on there?
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't like it was a ship. It was
Speaker 1: a shithole, rusted wasp pies bee hives everything.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And Taylor's like, Taylor's like, well, we'll fix it up.
Speaker 5: We'll do the inside. If it doesn't work, I'll just
Speaker 5: have a funk. I'll have a bus to myself because
Speaker 5: I'll take this thing. And I was like, all right,
Speaker 5: let's do it. And Taylor handled, Taylor handled the crew
Speaker 5: to get on there. Shout out Jeff and the boys out.
Speaker 5: We bought furniture and stuff for it and the juice
Speaker 5: in them at Cardboard Films.
Speaker 1: They got it.
Speaker 5: They got it workable for a podcast, and it is, dude,
Speaker 5: it's a fucking hit because the boy Taylor, So it
Speaker 5: wanted to take a shot on that thing.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: That thing is it's just as a diary in the rough, Dude.
Speaker 2: It's painted basically, it's it was painted red. Now it's
Speaker 2: burnt orange because all that sun damage. It's like, absolutely
Speaker 2: it's perfect. Earn Hart Budweiser on the side with the
Speaker 2: Big Eight. But I'll tell you what, there's stickers on
Speaker 2: top of that bus that are like as bad as
Speaker 2: racist as they get.
Speaker 1: We had to cover them up.
Speaker 2: We did like purple tape and like put it and
Speaker 2: I taped it all up. It was so bad, dude,
Speaker 2: But it's been awesome. It's it's so much fun to do.
Speaker 2: It's so easy. You get to meet the coolest people.
Speaker 2: It's it's a blast.
Speaker 3: You you would strictly like sports. You guys just do
Speaker 3: it like anybody that's interesting.
Speaker 5: Anybody's interesting. We did Chase Rice yesterday. We've had We've
Speaker 5: had Dale Dale, Earnhart came on a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean everybody we do, we do anybody
Speaker 5: we've done.
Speaker 2: We've done mma fighters, we've done football players, we've done singers, songwriters.
Speaker 2: We have like a side thing now called Picking with
Speaker 2: the Boys that like comes out twice a week, which
Speaker 2: has hasn't come out this week.
Speaker 1: Come on when it comes out tonight.
Speaker 2: Let's go fuck Alex. Shout it Alex from shouton Alex,
Speaker 2: our production Twitter guy for fucking it up. Shout it Alex. Yes, Alex,
Speaker 2: whoa you fucked it up? Yes? Anyway, we have like
Speaker 2: a little People with the Boys thing with singer song
Speaker 2: letters get on here and they play original music.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 2: It's a blast. It's like it's so fun. And we
Speaker 2: had a good crew of people that helping us out too,
Speaker 2: even Alex, who I just shoot.
Speaker 3: On and Alex is just take it.
Speaker 2: He's in mute right now.
Speaker 1: Joe, Joe and the Boys, Joe and the Boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not in it. He's out.
Speaker 1: Well, he's out the it's recruiting's never over. Recruiting season
Speaker 1: never over.
Speaker 2: We got his number now stands.
Speaker 1: As soon as the thing ends, dude, they.
Speaker 3: Don't think about it.
Speaker 2: I'll think about it.
Speaker 3: I just want I just want you to if I
Speaker 3: can the comfort of my.
Speaker 1: House, I mean beautiful, that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but once this whole thing ends, that's gonna be
Speaker 3: a little bit weird. What are you gonna have me
Speaker 3: like just over a loud speaker, like floating above you
Speaker 3: on the computer screens being.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you'll you'll have your own thing. You'll
Speaker 1: have your own thing, dude, it'll be yours.
Speaker 5: But we're just partner. So it's just like your brand
Speaker 5: and you're building it out. We're building this beautiful thing
Speaker 5: with each other, busting with everybody.
Speaker 2: Hey, people helping people, that powerful stuff.
Speaker 3: That's that's right, that's my mantra.
Speaker 1: Is it? Okay?
Speaker 2: Who like that? Wedshers?
Speaker 1: It is the wedding crashers?
Speaker 5: Okay, So you have you've had It's so hard to
Speaker 5: figure out exact questions because you've played since fucking dinosaurs
Speaker 5: were alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say? What was your hardest Super
Speaker 1: Bowl loss?
Speaker 5: Between You've been in two, right, jesus, this last one.
Speaker 5: But you've been in two Super Bowls, right, the one
Speaker 5: against the Ravens and then this.
Speaker 3: One against the Ravens and then yeah, this last one.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Actually they're both really tough. I mean
Speaker 3: the first one was just so hard because we were
Speaker 3: so close. I mean, came back, we were down twenty
Speaker 3: eight to six, came back.
Speaker 1: You had the momentum.
Speaker 3: We had all the momentum. You had that drive. At
Speaker 3: the end of the game, we had like a first
Speaker 3: and goal from the seven, and we were all in
Speaker 3: the huddle like seriously, like, dude, we're about to be
Speaker 3: world champions. We're just gonna get this ball in. And
Speaker 3: then it didn't happen, and like to be that close
Speaker 3: and lose. But then this last one was the same way.
Speaker 3: We were up twenty ten seven minutes left and fell
Speaker 3: apart at the end. So fuck, rather get like blown
Speaker 3: out and in those situations then.
Speaker 1: Well the lights went off in that first one.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm ian fuck.
Speaker 2: If the if the Tennessee Titans beat the Kansas City
Speaker 2: Chiefs the AC championship game. God, yeah, who wins that game?
Speaker 2: The Titans? Who's that?
Speaker 3: We were dominating?
Speaker 2: I heard you the first time. Stop repeating yourself. You're wrong,
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: Why were you hoping the Titans one? Joe, that one?
Speaker 2: The Titans. We have the same we have the same
Speaker 2: exact offense. Yeah, we had very dominant I guess the run.
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is hotter than hot, dude. He was hotter
Speaker 2: than hot. He was like, what's his name from Zoolander?
Speaker 3: Shut down every single running back?
Speaker 2: Okay, hey, hey Joe, Okay, but we were hot, dude,
Speaker 2: and and we were in the West.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think if Nick Bosa and I
Speaker 2: went to the foot race, I think I beat Nicks
Speaker 2: on a foot race.
Speaker 3: Gives this ship about foot race? Is run your ass?
Speaker 2: Laterally I got a run.
Speaker 1: Hey, hang on, let me mediate this. Let me mediate this. Joe.
Speaker 1: Were you were you hoping the Titans beat the Chiefs
Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why Joe? Why were you hoping?
Speaker 3: I thought it was an easier path through the title.
Speaker 2: Stare of that, scared of that.
Speaker 3: Mahomes is very.
Speaker 2: Hot, Hansel. It's so hot right now, so hot right now.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. You know, who else will it
Speaker 2: was hot? Derrick Henry, he was very Yeah. Tennessee Times
Speaker 2: offensive one.
Speaker 3: Well, you guys were kind of yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 3: guys were like the light version of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: So you guys were like, you're trying to run the ball,
Speaker 3: and you guys ran the ball, but then we had
Speaker 3: to go and like ran the ball like fifty times
Speaker 3: in the game. You guys would do it. You know,
Speaker 3: it was like thirty five. That was cute, but then
Speaker 3: we did it like fifty. It was like, you guys
Speaker 3: are just trying to, like, you know, be what we
Speaker 3: already were.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, you could say that, or you could say that
Speaker 2: you guys needed fifty times to win. We only needed
Speaker 2: thirty eight times to win. We're more diverse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then we won and you guys lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you guys also, who'd you play Packers? First
Speaker 2: time head coach? Shout out Matt Lafleur appslutly loved that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: on Matt Man, that's fucking I didn't shoot on him.
Speaker 2: I literally just said first time that he dismissed him.
Speaker 3: You were first time head coach, dude, you you did.
Speaker 2: I do not want words put in my mouth. Packers
Speaker 2: have very good defensive ends. I don't want to play
Speaker 2: them in two years or one year or whenever I
Speaker 2: played them. And after they they pinned this up with
Speaker 2: me with the stupid bandana on shit, This fucking guy
Speaker 2: was talking shit like was it may late April twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: I will say this, when we played them and we
Speaker 3: ended up like the game plan was kind of like
Speaker 3: that week was like, we're gonna we don't have to
Speaker 3: run the ball to win the game. And then we
Speaker 3: went out there. I didn't know we were gonna have
Speaker 3: to run the ball like fifty times and then we
Speaker 3: were time. But I was so fucking happy because how
Speaker 3: talented those guys on the edge are. I was like
Speaker 3: in an Energy title game, having to go against these
Speaker 3: two guys, they're just gonna be fucking pass rushing and
Speaker 3: Noah passes coming, Like, we better be able to run
Speaker 3: the ball. So when it kind of worked out that way, I.
Speaker 2: Was just like, thank God, Oh you need that. That's
Speaker 2: definitely a feeling that all off it tilnement go through,
Speaker 2: like but we're running the ball this week, and back
Speaker 2: the like under our BREASTLP, we fucking better have to
Speaker 2: run the ball this week.
Speaker 3: Any also the other way though, where it's like we're
Speaker 3: gonna run the ball this week, and then the game
Speaker 3: comes and you end up having like eight rushes the
Speaker 3: whole entire game.
Speaker 2: We're like, well, what are we doing out there? What
Speaker 2: are we doing?
Speaker 1: You're in the cold tub, like we're supposed to run
Speaker 1: the fucking ball game.
Speaker 3: I remember one game we had in two thousand and
Speaker 3: eleven or twelve. It was Jpp's rookie year when you
Speaker 3: were playing the Giants and they had JPP.
Speaker 2: Hey, that was all ten fingers JPP too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was that was all and grip
Speaker 3: strength and crazy move JPP.
Speaker 2: And yeah we had.
Speaker 3: Oh see you your A and I probably messed up
Speaker 3: his name. And then Justin Tuckett and I remember going
Speaker 3: into the game and that was like they were rolling
Speaker 3: and I was like, Ship, we're gonna have to you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to run the ball, like you're gonna
Speaker 3: we can't just sit back and like these guys pin
Speaker 3: their ears back and we get into the game. We
Speaker 3: get our first fifteen. The night before, I'm not kidding you,
Speaker 3: the first twelve plays were five or seven step drop backs,
Speaker 3: the first twelve plays of the game.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I've never.
Speaker 3: Had a night of sleep like that night.
Speaker 2: The night before. I was gonna say that you can't
Speaker 2: sleep when that ship comes up.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: What the night before they pop it up and they're
Speaker 2: like they're like adjusting on the on the screen to
Speaker 2: make sure it fits all right. Here we go, yep,
Speaker 2: all right, first play, you're looking it's like key right,
Speaker 2: key left, sixty four sixty five two jet, three jet.
Speaker 2: You're just like, fuck, dude.
Speaker 3: Talked about like double moves from the receivers, and you're
Speaker 3: just like Jesus tries to like a six second drop
Speaker 3: back here.
Speaker 2: Coach I points you out, Hey, Joe, I need you
Speaker 2: to hold up here. All right, it's gonna be three jet.
Speaker 2: We got sale on here. You know, seven step drop.
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be a big deal. And you're
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, you got to coach your head.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, this is why we pay you, This why
Speaker 1: we're playing.
Speaker 2: Are we uh are here on the field for the
Speaker 2: first player of the game. Yeah, imagine if you said that, like, hey, Joe,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to lean on you do this on
Speaker 2: this three jet right here? He is Khalil mackout, Oh no,
Speaker 2: not what what woucking doing? Boys? What the fuck are
Speaker 2: we doing?
Speaker 3: On the On the other flip side, though, it's amazing
Speaker 3: how jacked up offensive linemen get when you do that
Speaker 3: first fifteen like script and they're all runs or like
Speaker 3: three step drops or keepers and it's just like one
Speaker 3: after the other.
Speaker 1: You're like let's go.
Speaker 3: We're gonna dominate.
Speaker 2: It's maybe fucking ready tomorrow be like all the pressures
Speaker 2: off you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mid time leader now yeah.
Speaker 2: You go to bed, you sleep really well, and then
Speaker 2: it's like the game. First play the game is like a.
Speaker 3: Boot, yeah yeah, nothing, nothing juices you have more than
Speaker 3: a boot, and he like he gets me going. I
Speaker 3: think your run calls the line of Scrimm's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey guy, fucking three take me digs in a
Speaker 2: little bit. He stupid as the balls being snapped. Dude.
Speaker 2: That's literally like so true. Every offics lineman goes through that.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I love too is the three
Speaker 2: step drops in like early in the game, because you
Speaker 2: get a feel how my hand's doing today, how my
Speaker 2: feet doing today, like, and you're like boom boom, punch.
Speaker 2: You're not afraid of punch.
Speaker 3: You're not afraid of punch through your hands, they go
Speaker 3: up field. It's like whatever. But the flip side of that, though,
Speaker 3: is like when you have a three step drop and
Speaker 3: you're like, all right, how my hands feeling, you throw
Speaker 3: them and the guy like fucking blows by you or
Speaker 3: like you're like, oh ship, you put him out there.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh shit, he's fucking ready today, and you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, like you say something your boy, like guy's
Speaker 2: a pussy right in your head. You're like, fuck, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm in for a bit of a deal today. I
Speaker 2: better lock this ship up some guy you've never heard
Speaker 2: of too.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: It's always that, It's always yeah, yeah, because when you
Speaker 2: play the dudes that are like the fucking the Khalil
Speaker 2: Max of Von Millers, you're like watching Kave. Von likes
Speaker 2: to spin every third time, like he loves speed, speed,
Speaker 2: speed to spin it. See okay, clock loves the power off, chips,
Speaker 2: loves the and you watch all that, it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: fifty don't the fuck that guy? Well, the next guy,
Speaker 2: and then like you get fifty seven to the first
Speaker 2: play of the game, you're like, I'm just gonna get
Speaker 2: this guy the quick two hand punch his chest, noe
Speaker 2: baggy lay those fuckers out there, and he's like chop stab,
Speaker 2: like swimming. You're like short corner of the first round, Like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this guy doing?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had that experience with Everson Griffin's first year
Speaker 3: Andrew he was a backup. He was like a third
Speaker 3: round pick, and so we played him. I think it
Speaker 3: must have been I don't know if it was preseason
Speaker 3: or if it was like first couple of weeks, and
Speaker 3: so he didn't have any film out there, and so
Speaker 3: I was like not watching them, and he would come
Speaker 3: in like he was like the rotational guy. So he
Speaker 3: would come in like every third series, and so, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm studying the guys I'm going against, and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, Everson comes in. I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, not that you're taking it lightly, but you're
Speaker 3: just like, okay, now that you know the starter is
Speaker 3: not in. And then he comes out and I remember
Speaker 3: feeling his bull rush for the first time, and I
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck? And then it got to
Speaker 3: the point where you like thankful that he's leaving the game.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what I'm not telling like the other guys
Speaker 3: in the team, like why is why is he not playing?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, Like third down comes out? First down,
Speaker 2: get like two yards, second down, get like two yards
Speaker 2: third and stick. So you're peeking, like, all right, where's
Speaker 2: he is he coming out here? Thank god? All right,
Speaker 2: We're good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's so funny man all the other old lineman things
Speaker 3: like when you when you break the huddle and you
Speaker 3: got guys that are like switching sides and one is
Speaker 3: obviously better than the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guides all the time.
Speaker 3: And so you're sitting on a third down and you're
Speaker 3: just like you're kind of peeking over your shoulder and
Speaker 3: you're seeing like who you're gonna get and then like
Speaker 3: you like and you see like Bond go to the
Speaker 3: other side, and you're like, fuck, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2: Stay in your head, go, let's go boys, like you say,
Speaker 2: little something going, let's go boy, Hey thirty third and twelve,
Speaker 2: we got this. Yeah, yeah, that's the worst one. You're like, well,
Speaker 2: like I don't know about you, but when I play,
Speaker 2: like as much film as I watch, I'm always like
Speaker 2: I have keys in my head, like are alright with
Speaker 2: this guy? I need to get at least this many
Speaker 2: sets in before I punch, Like hey watch this, maybe
Speaker 2: flash a play or something like that, Like I'll have
Speaker 2: like like a key in my head, like all right,
Speaker 2: this guy. But it's the worst. Like you're saying like
Speaker 2: you're in the huddle and they like they'll stand right
Speaker 2: in the middle, like where the noses, and so he's
Speaker 2: like looking waiting to see where the wive goes, and
Speaker 2: you're like, you call the plane. You get up to
Speaker 2: the line. He looks and goes over there. Fuck dude,
Speaker 2: all right, all right, we're doing this. That shit's fucking crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then when the quarterback of the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: like flips the protection where you're on the man's.
Speaker 2: Side, yeah, dude, or like yeah, you get like a chip,
Speaker 2: you like a chip on the right side, but you
Speaker 2: get your slide to your side. You're like all right, fuck, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: that's all good. Everyone everyone gets what they need to hear.
Speaker 2: And then he like checks it. Hey, yeah you check
Speaker 2: ron ron. You're like, all right, son of a bitch,
Speaker 2: what's that.
Speaker 3: I won't miss all that, dude.
Speaker 2: When you're when you're on though, when you on, your
Speaker 2: hands are good and your set's fucking tight, and you're
Speaker 2: just like you get that confidence in the second quarter.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no high like that. Yeah, when when
Speaker 2: you're in your mind you're like, yo, no one can
Speaker 2: really stop me right now. Yeah, go ahead and slide
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Where it's like in the third quarter and you're like
Speaker 3: in the huddle and you're like looking up. I'm like
Speaker 3: looking up at my wife and like dancing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is easy. Yeah, yeah, exactly, dude. I
Speaker 2: start that way in the first quarter and sometimes it
Speaker 2: goes downhill. Yeah, it's real nice.
Speaker 3: Every single defensive lineman comes on the sideline, it's always
Speaker 3: like you just will fucking shut up.
Speaker 2: Yeah who said that?
Speaker 3: Like every d lineman over the years has been like.
Speaker 2: He just talks.
Speaker 3: He's talking NonStop.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Do you talk a lot in the field?
Speaker 2: Mm hm, you want to say a word.
Speaker 3: No, I'm more like, uh, subtle jabs, kind of like sarcastic.
Speaker 2: Like what's your what's your best?
Speaker 3: Well, like I will know and he will know that
Speaker 3: that was not a good rushed but I'll be like, oh, dude,
Speaker 3: that was Jesus. I don't know how I stopped that
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But I don't really talk. I didn't
Speaker 3: really talk a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah me either.
Speaker 1: That was a great segment of offensive line play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, coming in.
Speaker 5: Hey, when I'm sitting up like sitting up in my futon,
Speaker 5: like my freaking low back gets tight.
Speaker 1: So when you guys are just I just felt like
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, this isn't going anywhere soon. I just
Speaker 1: fucking sat back.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, just browing out on some whole line nuances.
Speaker 5: I know, right ship the night before we worry about
Speaker 5: it as backers. It's just like, are we gonna check
Speaker 5: the zone? If these motherfuckers go empty?
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the night before, which you sweat over.
Speaker 5: It's like any type of man of man situations that
Speaker 5: you might possibly be in because as a backer, you're
Speaker 5: like you get to play in the box.
Speaker 3: You get to just hoping that it's the blocking tight
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Or like when they motion out and
Speaker 1: you know, safety blitz.
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Speaker 5: hey you sure you know you sure you want me
Speaker 5: to run out there with old buddy with the running
Speaker 5: back out there on the island, or the safety can.
Speaker 1: Go take, can go take and I can take his blitz.
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Speaker 2: Who I know. Really, we're basically at an hour right now,
Speaker 2: so we'll let you go in a second, But like,
Speaker 2: who is your fair favorite teammate of all time? Who's
Speaker 2: who's the dude that you're like, this is my fucking boy. Actually,
Speaker 2: let me rephrase that, let me stop that. Where's McGlinchey
Speaker 2: at in that lists up there?
Speaker 3: He knows that he's not the top, which kills him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. But it's hard to.
Speaker 3: Play so many years with certain players, and you know,
Speaker 3: a guy like Frank Gored meant so much to me
Speaker 3: in my career because of like when I came in
Speaker 3: as a rookie, he was going into year three. He
Speaker 3: just came off with sixteen hundred yards rushing. He was
Speaker 3: an unbelievable dude. But then I saw like the way
Speaker 3: that he worked and like the example that he set
Speaker 3: for the team, and like he's the same exact person
Speaker 3: that he was his rookie year as he is in
Speaker 3: year fifteen. Just the work as ethic that he had
Speaker 3: just watching him from a distance, you know, kind of
Speaker 3: just the way that he approached the game. He had
Speaker 3: a huge impact on my career. And then we became
Speaker 3: a lot closer and you know, more friends. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously like close friends once we played eight eight years together,
Speaker 3: but then that old line room and he got so
Speaker 3: many different guys, he got like Mike Potty and Dan
Speaker 3: Kilgore super close, and then you know, m Guinchy was
Speaker 3: like just a little brother. And I don't have any brothers,
Speaker 3: but he was like probably what I imagine having a
Speaker 3: little brother was. He was this kind of guy that
Speaker 3: I would like, you know, give ship to all the time,
Speaker 3: fucking pick on all the time. But you know, one
Speaker 3: of those guys that you tell him anything. He got,
Speaker 3: We got to be really close.
Speaker 2: That's epic. Well it is a good dude, man. He
Speaker 2: He and I went surfing together a couple of times
Speaker 2: in Insannita's and he was he only had good things
Speaker 2: to say about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you better.
Speaker 5: What was What was your favorite locker room year? The
Speaker 5: favorite what your favorite room?
Speaker 1: Your favorite year in the locker room, your favorite locker
Speaker 1: room You've been a part.
Speaker 3: Of the year we had in twenty eleven was really special,
Speaker 3: just because everybody like we were shit forever and none
Speaker 3: of us, a lot of the guys that were there
Speaker 3: had like not really experienced any kind of success, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden we went from being shit.
Speaker 3: Harball got there. We went thirteen and three that year.
Speaker 3: So just like the ride of that everybody kind of
Speaker 3: enjoying that you know high you're talking about like just
Speaker 3: winning and all of a sudden from being like shit
Speaker 3: football team to being really good and that was really fun.
Speaker 3: And then this last year, just as far as like
Speaker 3: the guys in the room, it was a really special
Speaker 3: locker room just because of the personalities and stuff and
Speaker 3: kind of seeing how people dealt with, you know, the
Speaker 3: same kind of things. It was. It was fun for
Speaker 3: me to be at a different perspective, being an older
Speaker 3: player kind of already having experienced some success, but a
Speaker 3: lot of like those guys had not, you know, like
Speaker 3: seeing how George's personality kind of came into his own
Speaker 3: and he starts having some success and the team's having success,
Speaker 3: and it was just fun to work.
Speaker 1: I still have two more.
Speaker 2: Taylor, you got any Yeah, who's your who's a who's
Speaker 2: the best tackle in the NFL?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Jodan out?
Speaker 2: You're gun. I appreciate that. It's all I needed. Carry on.
Speaker 3: I'm not even I'm not lying though, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: not lying that.
Speaker 1: Do you do you really think so?
Speaker 3: And Gonna Taylor?
Speaker 5: You don't say you don't, don't do any speaking you
Speaker 5: really think Taylor is the best tackle. I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to do any I just want him to stay out
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 3: I think you and I really like boy's game. But
Speaker 3: I've known Bockari since shoot, he was like a sophomore
Speaker 3: in high school. But I've always watched and I told
Speaker 3: you this after Pro Bowl, actually like that, I've always
Speaker 3: watched your tape, Like I thought when you were a rookie,
Speaker 3: I thought you came in it was like, it's hard.
Speaker 3: It was hard for me to watch guys when I
Speaker 3: was younger because I felt like I was a smaller
Speaker 3: tackle before smaller tackles kind of came a thing. There
Speaker 3: was a lot of guys that were like three thirty
Speaker 3: three forty, and I didn't think I could really kind
Speaker 3: of like translate my game to what they were doing
Speaker 3: or take pieces from what they were doing. But when
Speaker 3: you came in, I always watched and studied what you
Speaker 3: were doing because I thought you're like your hand placement
Speaker 3: and like how you punch, and like you're always in balance,
Speaker 3: Like that's something I always envied in my uh my
Speaker 3: game and try to attain, but I could never do it,
Speaker 3: like like a few kids. So I would say you
Speaker 3: and I really love the way that you play the
Speaker 3: game because you you play it like how I think
Speaker 3: it should be it's not like a focus on pass
Speaker 3: prow or a focus on run game. It's like a
Speaker 3: complete lineman. You like you do both things well, and
Speaker 3: I think that doesn't get talked about enough. Everybody just
Speaker 3: talks about like, all, this guy's a great pass protector
Speaker 3: and that's what makes a great tackle. But like, you
Speaker 3: got to be able to do especially in the offenses
Speaker 3: we play, like you got to be able to do
Speaker 3: both at a really high level than you do. So
Speaker 3: enough feeding your ego.
Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing about why you said that, Like,
Speaker 2: it's it's funny you say, like you like the way
Speaker 2: I play the game, because when I got to the NFL,
Speaker 2: I I didn't use my hands very well. I kind
Speaker 2: of like just I didn't use my length. I kind
Speaker 2: of just use my feet to try to beat the guy.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, yeah, pretty much use your length. Well
Speaker 2: if I if I think you're talking about what you're
Speaker 2: talking about, there's no length to use. I was thinking
Speaker 2: about your saying. But when I when I got to
Speaker 2: the NFL, like, uh, Solely would take me into his
Speaker 2: office and make me watch your film about how to Punch.
Speaker 2: He put on It's the playoffs, it was green, it
Speaker 2: was you versus Green Bay against Clay Matthews, and he
Speaker 2: made me watch that film over and over again. The
Speaker 2: way you punched, the way if you if you missed,
Speaker 2: how you recovered, how you got back in it, the
Speaker 2: way you ran off the ball. So yeah, and in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, the things you admire about me
Speaker 2: are the things I've learned from you, which is it's
Speaker 2: a cool, full circle thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I liked it so much, because maybe
Speaker 3: I I was just watching myself.
Speaker 2: Gotta love yourself. Man, If you don't love yourself, who's
Speaker 2: gonna do it?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: I love that, dude. I appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 5: A By the time this comes out, the documentary will
Speaker 5: already be dropped. But the Redskins are doing a piece
Speaker 5: on Alex. Yeah, take a moment to talk about Alex
Speaker 5: and like playing with him, and you know what you
Speaker 5: what you think of Alex And.
Speaker 3: Alex is one of the most if you guys you
Speaker 3: played with him, right, he was.
Speaker 1: The year after I left and Washington he.
Speaker 3: Was Okay, so one of the most like unbelievable human
Speaker 3: beings I've ever been around. You know, I was actually
Speaker 3: talking with him this uh, this past season we played
Speaker 3: the Redskins. I saw him after the game, and you
Speaker 3: know he's still going through you know, tremendous amount of
Speaker 3: rehab and everything and everything he's been through with his leg.
Speaker 3: And I even commented, I like, I stopped a mid conversation.
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I can't believe like how positive
Speaker 3: you are about everything that's happened and gone on. It's
Speaker 3: like you don't have a down day ever. Like he's
Speaker 3: just the most positive, good person, loyal human being that
Speaker 3: I've been around. And he's like really inspiring to like
Speaker 3: want to make yourself into like a better human being.
Speaker 3: He's an unbelievable dad, unbelievable husband, tremendous competitor, Like never
Speaker 3: pointed fingers. It was all about the team. You know,
Speaker 3: he had that whole thing going where he lost his job,
Speaker 3: Cap came in, never made it about him. He was like,
Speaker 3: you know, this is the best move for the team
Speaker 3: that I supported. I'm gonna do what I can do
Speaker 3: to try to help Cap, and you know then I'm
Speaker 3: probably gonna move on. But I mean, he was just
Speaker 3: a tremendous guy to be around. And I could go
Speaker 3: on and on about what Alex meant to my career
Speaker 3: almost the same way as you know, Frank was.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch that documentary on Friday.
Speaker 3: That's so much like it's unbelievable. I think it'll be
Speaker 3: really eye opening for everybody to hear, like exactly what
Speaker 3: went on with his leg break?
Speaker 1: It was so have you have you gotten to see it?
Speaker 1: Have you got to watch it?
Speaker 3: But I'm just talking to him, just talking to him, yeah,
Speaker 3: throughout the years and just knowing what he's gone through.
Speaker 1: Last my last thing, and I hope, I hope you
Speaker 1: give me what I'm wanting. Who is your favorite who's
Speaker 1: your favorite coach? Who's your favorite defensive coach? You've been around?
Speaker 3: Given time? Tula, There we go.
Speaker 1: That's where I wanted to start. I wanted to start.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even have to I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: even think about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where yo, you had it. He was a
Speaker 1: head coach for you.
Speaker 3: For a year, right, Yeah, he was, Dude.
Speaker 1: How much fun? Which coach?
Speaker 5: Because he's my favorite like non linebacker coach I've ever
Speaker 5: been around, Like I love sitting at the cafeteria with
Speaker 5: that motherfucker. He'd be button down Italian mob like gold
Speaker 5: his necklace talking about Hoby Sandwiches.
Speaker 1: You want to be just he had all the wisdom
Speaker 1: in the world, dude talking.
Speaker 3: About Yeah, just an unbelievable dude. I mean, you got
Speaker 3: to be around them. It's like hard to explain. It's
Speaker 3: hard to explain him to people that don't know him.
Speaker 3: But he's like the most caring coach that you've ever
Speaker 3: been around. He's always asking about your families. He knows
Speaker 3: like your whole entire background, your sister's names, your members, everything,
Speaker 3: So he's checking in on you and then just being like, dude,
Speaker 3: seeing him work as a the line coach and like
Speaker 3: what he was able to do with like Justin Smith,
Speaker 3: all the Rand McDonald, Braille Franklin like that. That the
Speaker 3: line that we had with Hardball's ears, Like he is
Speaker 3: a tremendous, tremendous football coach, but just like a character.
Speaker 3: Uh to be around it. I remember his first year
Speaker 3: we had where I think Singletary got fired before the
Speaker 3: last game, and I think it was that year, and
Speaker 3: then he came in for one year or one game
Speaker 3: and was like the interim head coach for the last game.
Speaker 3: We were already out of the playoffs, and was this
Speaker 3: kind of like a whatever week. It was probably the
Speaker 3: most fun week I've ever had playing football because he
Speaker 3: was like, we're just.
Speaker 6: Gonna go out there and just have fun. And just
Speaker 6: like we're fucking playing the game. Like he gives a ship,
Speaker 6: just go out there and have fun. He came there
Speaker 6: to the first meeting like in a suit. He's like
Speaker 6: sweating his fucking chains open.
Speaker 3: That he was a wild dude.
Speaker 5: Well he had he had his press conference that everybody
Speaker 5: goes to refers to and last at because he is
Speaker 5: he has all these one liners and ship. I remember
Speaker 5: he pulled me aside like I was going through a
Speaker 5: transition and he was like, you know, he was like
Speaker 5: picking me up.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I see you work. I just want
Speaker 1: you see what I do out there with other d lineman.
Speaker 1: You see how they're all in rotation. A few plays in,
Speaker 1: I put him in. I put him in. I don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck. I got what you call fuck you money.
Speaker 5: They're gonna tell me how to play my guys and
Speaker 5: just dude. He was so much fun to be around. Bro,
Speaker 5: Like after training camp, you know, to go to the
Speaker 5: back and the equipment guys, because he'd be back there
Speaker 5: drinking beer and stuf up with the with Minusky, him
Speaker 5: and Monskue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just tag team and beers dude telling stories. It
Speaker 1: was like the most fun to be around those fucking guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Taylor and I were like, on these zoom pods, we
Speaker 1: need to make them closer to like forty minutes. But
Speaker 1: this is the fucking best.
Speaker 3: This boys talking it up.
Speaker 2: Feature Joe Staley on the podcast You're having his own
Speaker 2: podcast under the umbrella bust the Boys can't.
Speaker 1: Wait, Well, I can't fucking wait.
Speaker 2: Here we go boys give the killer. The recruiting always
Speaker 2: goes Joe, we're doing do that.
Speaker 3: Then if I do that, I'll probably have to move
Speaker 3: to Nashville anyways, because I gotta be on that box
Speaker 3: like this can't I can't just.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to come, or you can do
Speaker 1: what you want to do.
Speaker 2: I'll say, we need to do what you do to
Speaker 2: do regardless. Next off season, when all this quarantine bullshit
Speaker 2: is over, you to hop on your private jet or
Speaker 2: your helicopters whatever you own. Yea cruise your ass out
Speaker 2: to Nashville, hang out for a weekend. We'll get rowdy,
Speaker 2: we'll get after it, we'll get drunk, we'll recruit hard.
Speaker 3: That's a weekend, huh. I mean I got nothing but time.
Speaker 2: You want to do a week, will do a week.
Speaker 2: Three months goes by cal Well, Hey, Joe just won't
Speaker 2: fucking leave my house.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I got to get him home. His wife's called me.
Speaker 3: Fine, kids have put a shirt on him. Three weeks.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what in the year, the way you're
Speaker 2: going to be looking if you get that, Joe Thomas.
Speaker 2: If when I'm retired, I'm going to look better than
Speaker 2: Joe Thomas looks now And that's not a competition, but
Speaker 2: it's just done.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude.
Speaker 3: I think this. I think you will.
Speaker 5: I think you will work just as hard Taylor, But
Speaker 5: I think the way you're built, I don't know if
Speaker 5: you'll be able to be as ripped as that.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: I have more let people talk you down, Taylor. You
Speaker 3: can do it. I believe you know what.
Speaker 2: I'm not as right to defend myself. Joe. I appreciate
Speaker 2: that your chest.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You don't got like the
Speaker 1: shelf chest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, these little a little chest. But here's the deal.
Speaker 2: Like when everything else shrinks, it's gonna be baker. Everything else,
Speaker 2: the calves gonna be baker.
Speaker 1: I think your legs are gonna be the same size
Speaker 1: either way.
Speaker 2: No, but yeah probably I'll just be more proportional.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you'll just live way better on top.
Speaker 2: Dude. I used to be so self conscious about my calves,
Speaker 2: but now I love my legs. I love them.
Speaker 1: Your calves aren't scrolling or not.
Speaker 2: You don't repeat, don't repeat that sentence.
Speaker 3: He just said, why is that? No, I love my legs.
Speaker 2: I love my little van going down my calves. Now
Speaker 2: I got tattoos on one side. What's your favorite part
Speaker 2: of your body?
Speaker 3: Joe?
Speaker 2: What do you love about your body?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: My nose?
Speaker 2: That thing's wicked, bro, it's it's character exactly you got. Actually,
Speaker 2: I know we already we ended the podcast, but we're
Speaker 2: still in the podcast. It's kind of weird. What was
Speaker 2: a you get your like eye blown out or something
Speaker 2: like that, like two years ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your cocks?
Speaker 5: What do you do?
Speaker 3: And we were, uh it actually, well no, we were
Speaker 3: on an interception and so I'm over here, ball gets
Speaker 3: intercepted like you know, railroad on the sideline, and so
Speaker 3: I take like the creative angle to try to like
Speaker 3: tackle this motherfucker that's running a four to two. And
Speaker 3: I turn around and Fletcher Cox is right here and
Speaker 3: he just goes right to my head and I don't
Speaker 3: know how he did it, but his finger got through
Speaker 3: my face mask and shattered my orbital bone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were walking an advisor after that for
Speaker 2: a little bit. That's pretty dope.
Speaker 3: Then I tried it. I try to go like the
Speaker 3: Ladanian Tomlinson Dark Visor, but I didn't get approved for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what what? How much is that fun?
Speaker 3: In?
Speaker 2: Six grand?
Speaker 3: No? And sh it's like twenty something. I'm not getting dude.
Speaker 3: I was always my whole career, like followed every rule
Speaker 3: to the team. Like, I'm not about giving giving my
Speaker 3: money up. I know you have a different you have
Speaker 3: a different uh uh take on that you love you
Speaker 3: giving money up and getting fined.
Speaker 2: I don't love giving money up, But sometimes I fight
Speaker 2: for what I believe in.
Speaker 3: Joe, I never fought I had no I had no integrity.
Speaker 3: I never fought for what.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, dude, I had to find thirty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for moving a ref's hand off my chest.
Speaker 3: I mean that there's a little more dollars for cussing
Speaker 3: out a rep in my career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a video of me cursing out refs.
Speaker 1: You tried to fucking ruin the game.
Speaker 3: You try to fucking.
Speaker 2: Sons of bitches. Here's the issue is, like, my voice
Speaker 2: isn't very dominant, Like I don't have a If you
Speaker 2: heard me over the phone, it's like, oh, this kid's
Speaker 2: about to go through puberty. Like I don't have like
Speaker 2: a Brian or rack Clow voice or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know Rack, but Will does.
Speaker 2: And so when I'm yelling at people, it doesn't have
Speaker 2: to say I'm like, oh.
Speaker 3: I think he's not very intimidating.
Speaker 2: No, it's not, but it doesn't need to be. Well,
Speaker 2: I have that shelf chest and I retired. Dude, it's
Speaker 2: not gonna matter. Yeah, fucking you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Look at the boy to sixty sixty sends me a
Speaker 2: pick of a torps off. Take your shirt off, dude,
Speaker 2: let's see it.
Speaker 1: Take it off. Take it off right now, dude, take.
Speaker 2: A shirt off, Take a shirt off right now.
Speaker 5: Why not show everybody, show everybody that retirement bro, show
Speaker 5: us everything.
Speaker 1: Hey, you're retired. It doesn't even matters.
Speaker 2: He show us everything.
Speaker 3: Joe, I don't miss the locker room that much. Maybe
Speaker 3: in a couple of months with Jones and the the
Speaker 3: be in the locker room again. I'll get on here
Speaker 3: and just show my flush off.
Speaker 1: Can we get you to take a show off and
Speaker 1: put Taylor's jersey on you right now? Let's just for
Speaker 1: just for promotional. This is just promotional.
Speaker 2: Let's go see how it fits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just won't see how it fits. This is just promotional.
Speaker 1: This is just for Twitter.
Speaker 3: I gotta get going. I'm good.
Speaker 2: Ah, Hi Dane, We'll see you later, Joe,