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Speaker 2: with the Thunder coming up. After an impressive win, they
Speaker 2: even the series. You know the thing with Indiana, if
Speaker 2: you're a basketball fan and you followed them during the postseason,
Speaker 2: you realized that, okay, they're down fifteen, they can come back.
Speaker 2: So you're watching it differently than you would maybe other
Speaker 2: NBA teams NBA games. They've proven that, all right, we're
Speaker 2: down fifteen, we can come back. Therefore, I stayed with
Speaker 2: the game a lot longer than I would normally have stayed.
Speaker 2: But Okase was different last night because it started with SGA.
Speaker 2: He was different. He would get in the lane, he
Speaker 2: would draw two or three defenders and then he would
Speaker 2: kick it out. And they were making their threes. They're
Speaker 2: not a three point shooting team, but they became one
Speaker 2: last night, or show they're capable. They played great defense,
Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton. I want to see a little more aggression there,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna give Okase credit for that. They played
Speaker 2: great defense once again. So the Thunder and the Pacers.
Speaker 2: Now they head to Indiana. That'll be coming up Game
Speaker 2: three on Wednesday nine. All right, we'll get to phone
Speaker 2: calls as we always do every Monday, best and worst
Speaker 2: of the weekend. And if you were going to say
Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler versus the field? Right now the DraftKings odds,
Speaker 2: Scotty is an overwhelming favorite to win at Oakbant plus
Speaker 2: two seventy five. Next on the list is Rory at
Speaker 2: plus eight point fifty. Then it's Bryce and Deshambeau, John
Speaker 2: Rahm and a even longer shot with Zanders Shoffley. It
Speaker 2: feels like it's Scotty Scheffler's to lose. Is Scotty worthy now?
Speaker 2: Is he Tiger worthy to be Scotty versus the field?
Speaker 2: I think he only has two majors. It feels like
Speaker 2: he's got five. But he's got two majors and always
Speaker 2: in contention the other tournaments that he's winning. But it
Speaker 2: feels like he's he's at least in the area code
Speaker 2: of Tiger Woods when it comes to how great he is.
Speaker 2: And I always look at your competitors. Now, the live
Speaker 2: guys can still play in these majors. You know, John
Speaker 2: Rahm is able to play in this, Bryce and de
Speaker 2: Shambeau can play. You know, being a former champ, you're
Speaker 2: allowed in at the Masters, and so you're still competing
Speaker 2: against great players. The thing is is those players playing
Speaker 2: on the Live Tour who were in Virginia where Joaquin
Speaker 2: Neeman wins over the weekend, nobody cares and it's not
Speaker 2: really a true test of what you saw at the
Speaker 2: RBC where you know their sudden death, you know, go
Speaker 2: to extra holes. There that pressure and Paul just said
Speaker 2: three majors there for Scotty. Okay, but you know these
Speaker 2: guys on the Live Tour, you're not in that pressure
Speaker 2: cooker environment. You're not in that I gotta make the cut.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody gets paid, everybody's having a nice time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you want to win, but you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if people are losing their jobs because their team didn't
Speaker 2: or you didn't win the team event at the Live Tour.
Speaker 2: But getting in that mode of when you're when you're
Speaker 2: playing on the PGA Tour. It's just different, feels different,
Speaker 2: it's treated differently. It's not a casual thing. It's serious
Speaker 2: and I think trying to get ready to gear up
Speaker 2: to play in a major, that's the hard part. You know.
Speaker 2: John Rahm was maybe the best player in the world
Speaker 2: and then he went to live and he's not the
Speaker 2: best player, but he's still a great player. You know,
Speaker 2: even when you look at Tiger, how many times did
Speaker 2: he face off, go toe to toe with a great
Speaker 2: player to win the Major? Not often? I mean, rock
Speaker 2: O Media is a wonderful, wonderful guy and a fun
Speaker 2: guy to be around. Who is it May that was
Speaker 2: at Valhalla? I think who was a great amateur player?
Speaker 2: Like his last name is May. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: run down the list of who did he go against?
Speaker 2: And that's not, you know, not Tiger's fault that Ernie
Speaker 2: Els wasn't there or Phil wasn't there on a consistent basis.
Speaker 2: You know, you look at Nicholas, Nicholas, it felt like, okay,
Speaker 2: you got Trevino and Gary Plair and you got Tom Watson.
Speaker 2: You know, you can run down the list of guys
Speaker 2: who were Hall of Famers, who were usually there with Jack.
Speaker 2: So that's what I want to see. I want to
Speaker 2: se see guys going toe to toe with Scottie Scheffler
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully that's Rory or Bryson de Shamba.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you want, you know, that's where
Speaker 2: it's memorable, where you have the showdown between those two.
Speaker 2: What was May's Do we know what his first name was?
Speaker 3: It's Bob May.
Speaker 2: Bob May. I was gonna say Brad May. Like Matt Gogel,
Speaker 2: Wasn't he a guy who competed against Tiger at Pebble
Speaker 2: in the US Open. Matt Gogel might have finished second
Speaker 2: at fifteen shots back, but I mean Tiger kind of
Speaker 2: blew people out of the water there. Yeah, Pauling, I
Speaker 2: went back and looked.
Speaker 4: At the odds.
Speaker 5: While you're talking about Tiger or Scotti Schffler being more
Speaker 5: of a favorite. Twenty years ago, Tiger Woods was five
Speaker 5: to one to win the US Open. The guys that
Speaker 5: were close to him were Phil Mickelson, Ernie Els, VJ.
Speaker 5: Singh and then it dropped off dramatically. However, Scotti Scheffler
Speaker 5: is more of a favorite to win this US Open
Speaker 5: than Tiger Wood was to win the US Open in
Speaker 5: two thousand and five for a comp.
Speaker 2: Here's something I didn't realize. I actually lost to bet.
Speaker 2: Guy goes, uh, hey, you know when Tiger won the
Speaker 2: Masters nineteen ninety seven. I go, yeah, yeah, it was there.
Speaker 2: He goes, Do you know that Jack Nicholas finished higher
Speaker 2: than Tiger the next Major or the next Masters? I go, wait,
Speaker 2: hold on, here, hold on, he said, check it that
Speaker 2: Jack I think finished sixth at the Masters in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety eight. Does that sound right because I would have
Speaker 2: thought jacket Jack didn't finish higher. Yes, PAULI, that is correct.
Speaker 5: Jack Nicholas was five under, tied for sixth with David Toms,
Speaker 5: and Tiger was tied for eighth at three under.
Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? Yes? I mean Jack in eighty six
Speaker 2: when he was what forty six when he won?
Speaker 5: Yeah, PAULI, fred Marcomera won that Masters, was and Freddy
Speaker 5: Couples was in there, Paul Aisinger classics.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But Jack Nicholas finishing higher than Tiger at Augusta.
Speaker 2: All right. So we have Oakmont, beautiful, challenging golf course.
Speaker 2: And I made the mistake of if you had the
Speaker 2: ball above the hole, it can roll off the green
Speaker 2: if you put it, but it it's spectacular. They took
Speaker 2: down a lot of trees there a long time ago.
Speaker 2: But beautiful clubhouse the eighteenth is awesome, and you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully weatherwise it'll be fun there with the US Open.
Speaker 2: All right, poll question for hour two is going to
Speaker 2: be what Seaton no counter we got up there right now?
Speaker 6: Will the NCAA settlement shift college sports either a game
Speaker 6: changer or not really? Right now, fifty four percent of
Speaker 6: the audience have it as a not really that significant.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 6: We're also putting up their most strenuous sport between the
Speaker 6: three currently happening, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis. I anticipate hockey to
Speaker 6: run away with this. I anticipate basketball to be second
Speaker 6: and tennis will be third. And I don't know if
Speaker 6: it should be that order.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, recency biased. When you're out there for five
Speaker 2: and a half hours mentally and physically. I still marvel
Speaker 2: at what hockey players do. Unbelievable. I mean, I just
Speaker 2: see there's certain sports when you watch and you go,
Speaker 2: why don't I watch more of this?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Definitely like yesterday when you're watching tennis, you go, God,
Speaker 2: I should watch more of this. Well, not every match
Speaker 2: is like that, but hockey playoff hockey is like that,
Speaker 2: and you'll watch hockey and you I should watch more
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 6: I could watch playoff hockey, doesn't matter who's playing. Hockey
Speaker 6: is one of the best of all the sports. It
Speaker 6: seems like the best combination of skill and like grit
Speaker 6: or toughness.
Speaker 2: And you're doing it on skates and you're doing it
Speaker 2: on ice and they got a stick and you got
Speaker 2: a stick, and that puck is going one hundred miles
Speaker 2: an hour. What could go wrong?
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like as they were inventing it, they kept saying,
Speaker 5: let's make it tougher. All right, So we're gonna be
Speaker 5: just running around. No, no, no, We're gonna go on ice, ice,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna use a stick, and then the blades,
Speaker 5: and then one guy's gonna have no face mask.
Speaker 2: The goalie.
Speaker 5: Now, no face mask, you can't have it. We'll wait
Speaker 5: a couple decades. Then we'll get a face mask for
Speaker 5: the goal.
Speaker 2: Do we get to wear helmets? Now you don't have to.
Speaker 6: Now we're gonna make it ruin the game. Yes, great,
Speaker 6: you gotta wear a helmet. Okay, you have us seen
Speaker 6: like sometimes the slow motion, like a dude will get
Speaker 6: still even with the face mask and the helmet everything,
Speaker 6: but the stick gets.
Speaker 2: Up into that shield.
Speaker 6: Like gosh, yeah, what happens with hockey players the dexterity.
Speaker 6: It's crazy toughness doing it on skates. Yes, yes, Martin,
Speaker 6: you're the designated fighter now. Your entire life up until then,
Speaker 6: you scored one hundred goals a game. Like, you know what,
Speaker 6: you're the best fighter. That's all you do. You're going
Speaker 6: to protect Sidney Crosby or Wayne Gretzky. You're going to fight.
Speaker 2: But I like that they don't fight in the postseason
Speaker 2: for the most part. Like they'll kind of jostle around
Speaker 2: a little bit there and you know, say something and
Speaker 2: push and shove and all that. But you know, I
Speaker 2: want to see the great That was the problem I
Speaker 2: always had when I was watching hockey. Now, this is
Speaker 2: when the Devils were really good, and you know, they
Speaker 2: would score two goals and then they would go into
Speaker 2: their zone defense and all of a sudden, this shell
Speaker 2: and then nobody was scoring. And I remember watching one
Speaker 2: time and Barry Milrose he was telling me. I said,
Speaker 2: Barry what should I be watching for? He said, you
Speaker 2: see that guy right there? I said, yeah, he goes
Speaker 2: best player in hockey. It was Peter Forsburg And I go,
Speaker 2: all right, So I watched and I go, uh, I
Speaker 2: didn't see anything. He he's looking at things that I'm not.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna see did you score, that's all?
Speaker 2: Did you assist or anything? And uh. But you want
Speaker 2: when people tune in, you want them to be able
Speaker 2: to see that guy is great because I there's times
Speaker 2: when I watch soccer where I'll go that guy didn't
Speaker 2: do anything, but he's the best, one of the best players.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: I'll watch MESSI sometimes and you go, all right, let
Speaker 2: me see it. I see walking all the time. I
Speaker 2: thought you were supposed to run all the time. And
Speaker 2: then I just watching and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you just see this little bolt of lightning, like, you know,
Speaker 2: just wobbling. And then all of a sudden you're going,
Speaker 2: how can he be the best player in this sport?
Speaker 2: And then you see it and you go, damn yes.
Speaker 9: Marv Hockey also has two of the best tradition traditions
Speaker 9: in sports, the playoff beard and the playoff handshake.
Speaker 4: After every series. Two of the best traditions in all
Speaker 4: the sports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's great. Yeah, it's fun. Playoff hockey, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: The NHL didn't require players to wear helmets until the
Speaker 5: seventy nine eighty season, but if you entered the league
Speaker 5: the year before or any time before, you were grandfathered in.
Speaker 5: So a lot of players said, no, you're not going
Speaker 5: to force me to. The first ever hockey player to
Speaker 5: wear a helmet was a Boston Bruins defenseman named George Owen.
Speaker 5: He also played at Harvard Football, so he grabbed his
Speaker 5: old Harvard leather helmet and wore it and was made
Speaker 5: fun of and the press soft. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of different In the nineteen thirties, the Maple Leafs, the
Speaker 5: whole team were instructed to wear helmets and the media
Speaker 5: just crushed them.
Speaker 2: But the goaltender didn't have a mask like a man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: wasn't that Jacques Plant Wasn't he the first to wear
Speaker 2: a mask? You imagine? And I remember seeing hockey mask
Speaker 2: where they would have like us, makeshift stitches in it
Speaker 2: where they got hit and then they would you know,
Speaker 2: have somebody draw stitches there Craig McTavish. Isn't he the
Speaker 2: last guy? Yeah, he was the last one who went
Speaker 2: without a helmet. Yes, Todd did.
Speaker 3: Catchers and baseball always have a face mask.
Speaker 10: Was there a time where like you could just get
Speaker 10: hit right in the face with a fastball if you
Speaker 10: didn't get your glove up? You were thinking the early
Speaker 10: times they had either very antiquated equipment or maybe no
Speaker 10: equipment at the very early days. Imagine belittling a catcher
Speaker 10: or a hockey player because they want to protect their
Speaker 10: face from a buckler of.
Speaker 2: Baseball soft Adam in Chicago, Hi, Adam, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 11: To take him a call? Yep, best and the worst.
Speaker 2: We're best.
Speaker 11: Arizona Baseball lost eighteen to two, and their first game
Speaker 11: in Chapel Hill three game series came back heavy underdogs
Speaker 11: dramatic fashion won the next two, punched their ticket to Omaha,
Speaker 11: the worst Europa League first major titles believe had in
Speaker 11: twenty something years. And they go ahead and just punt
Speaker 11: their Australian manager to the curb just so spurs and
Speaker 11: then uh just had a question for you guys, pull
Speaker 11: question or discuss amongst yourself curious. What is more enjoyable
Speaker 11: as a sports fan. Is it sitting down and actually
Speaker 11: watching the game, taking it in as it unfolds in
Speaker 11: front of you organically, or is it afterwards the next day,
Speaker 11: what you guys do so well and what we all
Speaker 11: tune in for breaking it down, hot, taking it, discussing it,
Speaker 11: predicting the ramifications of the future. What do we actually
Speaker 11: enjoy it more as sports fans?
Speaker 8: Take it in the.
Speaker 2: Game or yeah I got it? Yeah, I got big
Speaker 2: wind up there, Adam, come on. Just to clarify streamline.
Speaker 3: Top way, people are a long winded like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Don't you hate those people talk?
Speaker 3: So there's got to be a shorter way to say that.
Speaker 2: Land the plane, Okay, land the plane. What do I
Speaker 2: like more? Chopping it up the day after or watching? Mind? Say,
Speaker 2: watching it? Yeah, I mean that's why I got into
Speaker 2: this because I was watching and then you wanted to
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to talk about it. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: would say watching, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: There is a cool feeling of certain sporting events. It's
Speaker 5: almost like a haze that stays with you the day after,
Speaker 5: Like the French Open. The next day you're like, man,
Speaker 5: that was an experience that game where triple overtime hockey,
Speaker 5: Like the next morning you wake up because that was
Speaker 5: something I experienced last night where you almost want to
Speaker 5: talk about with anybody.
Speaker 2: Well, if you you know game one with the Pacers
Speaker 2: and okay, see blows a big lead and then you
Speaker 2: have you know, Tyre's Haliburton with the game winner, and
Speaker 2: then you can break that down. But in the moment,
Speaker 2: like nothing surpasses the moment of watching something like that.
Speaker 2: I enjoy looking back on something or having guests who
Speaker 2: will help you give you insights, or you'll hear from
Speaker 2: the person who hit the shot. You know, that's the
Speaker 2: fun part of it as well, is adding to that.
Speaker 2: And that's what our job is always advancing how do
Speaker 2: we advance? I don't always like looking back, as much
Speaker 2: as you can look back and then you look ahead.
Speaker 2: I think that's really, you know, that's essential in what
Speaker 2: we try to do. Yes, Tom, no one's.
Speaker 3: At the water cooler at their job eleven hours after
Speaker 3: the FED.
Speaker 1: Is it a shot?
Speaker 3: It just you lose the moment. It happens right at
Speaker 3: that moment.
Speaker 10: I do an'tyway is that really a debate between watching
Speaker 10: something in the moment and talking about it several hours.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh, I think so. I don't know if
Speaker 2: people go to the water cooler anymore. I don't know when.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if we have breakrooms. I don't
Speaker 2: know if people get together that way. I think you
Speaker 2: may on social media. I think you may correspond with
Speaker 2: your phone. I don't know if you know a text change.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're hey, you're going to chop
Speaker 2: it up in the breakroom with Tom and Skippy and Sally.
Speaker 2: You want to join us? Sure? I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that happens at the mothership of the cafeteria,
Speaker 2: where all of a sudden everybody's sitting down and talking
Speaker 2: about what happened. I mean usually when I got to
Speaker 2: the breakroom to have lunch, I didn't want to talk
Speaker 2: Spot Worts like Bill Pedo sits down, wants to talk,
Speaker 2: you know, ranger hockey. I go, Bill, No, not today,
Speaker 2: Get out of here, Get out of here.
Speaker 4: That's why he left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill Pedo, Yes, play What a character? What a
Speaker 2: character Pedo was? Let me take a break. We'll check
Speaker 2: in with the Thunder. One of their announcers, Michael Cage,
Speaker 2: former Seattle Supersonic. He'll join us and he'll tell us
Speaker 2: what we saw last night. We ready for a heavy
Speaker 2: dose of that the rest of the finals and Paul
Speaker 2: Finbaumb of the Mothership. We'll talk about this settlement, what
Speaker 2: it means for college athletics, what it means for you
Speaker 2: as a fan. Have that for you coming up a
Speaker 2: little bit later on. We're back after this and the
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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. We'll check in with Paul
Speaker 2: Finbaum of the mother Ship on what this settlement means
Speaker 2: for NIO and transfer portal and really the future of
Speaker 2: college athletics and in particular college football. Michael Cage Thunder
Speaker 2: TV analyst and he was in the NBA for what
Speaker 2: fourteen years? That sound about rain, Paulie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think eighty four to two thousand.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that would be sixteen years if my math
Speaker 2: would serve me correctly. Also, I believe played college basketball
Speaker 2: with Tony Gwynn at San Diego State. Michael Cage joining us,
Speaker 2: can we confirm those things, Michael.
Speaker 13: Yeah, let's see. Check for the years and check also
Speaker 13: with my man, Tony Gwynn god rest his soul was
Speaker 13: a teammate of mine my freshman year at San Diego State.
Speaker 2: Spot on, do you think Tony gwyn could have played
Speaker 2: in the NBA? Yes, I do.
Speaker 13: And he was a terrific point guard, great leader on
Speaker 13: the floor, could shoot the mid range. And now you
Speaker 13: got to remember, when I was in college, there was
Speaker 13: no three point line, so that three point line wasn't
Speaker 13: so much of a factor. But I watched him shoot
Speaker 13: in practice. He had range, and man, he never told me.
Speaker 13: I got to tell you this, Dan, He never told
Speaker 13: me that he was that good of a baseball player
Speaker 13: until spring of his senior year, which was spring of
Speaker 13: my freshman year. He said, why don't you come watch
Speaker 13: me play? Yeah, And that was it. Man, I became
Speaker 13: a fan.
Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NBA moment?
Speaker 13: You know I was drafted as a San Diego Clipper.
Speaker 13: So you just mentioned San Diego State, my alma mata,
Speaker 13: and I was like happy as a lark. Hey, I'm
Speaker 13: local kid. San Diego State just got drafted by the
Speaker 13: San Diego Clippers. And then two weeks later, I got
Speaker 13: a phone call. You need to move up to LA
Speaker 13: and get an apartment somewhere. And I said, well, what
Speaker 13: does that mean. Well, the team has moved to Los Angeles.
Speaker 13: They're now the Los Angeles Clippers. And I said, okay,
Speaker 13: this is what the NBA is like, welcome to it.
Speaker 4: Michael.
Speaker 2: How much of a rivalry, like did you get how
Speaker 2: lost does the did the Clippers get in the you
Speaker 2: know the shadow, that huge shadow of the Lakers when
Speaker 2: you're in the same town but people don't even know
Speaker 2: that you're there.
Speaker 13: Well, first of all, Dan, the LA's gonna always be
Speaker 13: a Laker town. I mean, you know, they've they've been there,
Speaker 13: what since fifty five their Minneapolis days or whatever. And
Speaker 13: but when we came there, my, my, you know, rookie year.
Speaker 13: I saw some some fans, some Billy Crystal's, Penny Marshall's
Speaker 13: at the.
Speaker 2: Games Hall was probably there, Yeah, he was there.
Speaker 13: And then you know, when they did the infamous Come
Speaker 13: Into America movie, the writers came to the Clippers game,
Speaker 13: saw my hair and said we're going to do the
Speaker 13: so glow thing off of Michael Cage's hair. I said, okay,
Speaker 13: this is kind of cool. I didn't find that out
Speaker 13: till ten years fifteen years later.
Speaker 2: But wait, wait, wait, wait wait, because you had a
Speaker 2: Jerry Curl, can we keep this moving? No, no, you
Speaker 2: had hair. We should talk about when you had hair, Michael.
Speaker 2: But so you had a Jerry Curl, I did they?
Speaker 2: And so they writers looked at that and said we're
Speaker 2: going to use that in Coming to America.
Speaker 13: That's what I found out years later from Rolling Stones
Speaker 13: magazine that called me and says, hey, you want to
Speaker 13: do a story on you with the whole Coming to
Speaker 13: America feature. I said, well, what does that have to
Speaker 13: do with me? He said, oh, you didn't know. They said, well,
Speaker 13: the writers came to a clicker game. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 13: can barely get it out. Sometimes you got to have
Speaker 13: a sense of humor at my house, and this is
Speaker 13: a sense of humor. I tell you a story from me.
Speaker 13: I turned around and said, well, tell me more. He said, well,
Speaker 13: they came to a clipper game and they were trying
Speaker 13: to think up some different scenes or acts for the
Speaker 13: movie Coming to America, the original one, and said they
Speaker 13: saw your hair. And that was when the whole soul
Speaker 13: glow thing came in. You know, with I tell you
Speaker 13: and I said, Okay, that's a big surprise, but I
Speaker 13: can give you whatever I can. I said, yeah, I
Speaker 13: wore it, but you know, I was kind of I
Speaker 13: was kind of like a baptism into the entertainment industry
Speaker 13: of Hollywood for me with the hair thing and the
Speaker 13: sol glow and the Jerry curl. You know, all that's tough, man.
Speaker 2: But if you could still have that hair, but you
Speaker 2: had to wear it now since you're bald, when'd you
Speaker 2: go back? Would you do the Jerry curl?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 13: You know about fashion, you know about style. What goes
Speaker 13: around comes around, is coming around. And if I could,
Speaker 13: I would because I know I'm seeing the big afro.
Speaker 13: When I was in high school, I had a big one. Man.
Speaker 13: It was bigger than Michael Jackson's in the seventies. So
Speaker 13: that's how big mine was in high school my first
Speaker 13: year of college. So I'm assuming yeah, if I to
Speaker 13: answer your question, yeah, because I know it's going to
Speaker 13: come back around.
Speaker 2: Man. We're talking to Michael Cage, the thunder TV analyst
Speaker 2: and fourteenth overall picked by the Clippers in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2: Once lid the NBA in rebounding. All right, what we
Speaker 2: saw last night felt like that was emblematic of what
Speaker 2: you saw all season long with OKC. And I'll start
Speaker 2: with SGA because I like the eight assist. It felt
Speaker 2: like he was if he wasn't scoring, he would get
Speaker 2: into the paint, take the double team and then kick out.
Speaker 2: What else stood out for you with what you saw
Speaker 2: last night? And if you're telling a Pacer fan get
Speaker 2: ready to see more of this, what would it be?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 13: I think what you saw was a total team effort
Speaker 13: that got this team sixty eight wins last season. Because
Speaker 13: you know, as much as there's a lead dog in SGA, man,
Speaker 13: I do it as special man.
Speaker 2: I've been here.
Speaker 13: This is my year as a broadcaster for the Thunder.
Speaker 13: And when I got here, we had Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook,
Speaker 13: you know, that whole group, and that era was kind
Speaker 13: of you know at this last year or two run
Speaker 13: and then we had to retool this team and get
Speaker 13: the Chris Paul and then you know there was an
Speaker 13: in between Paul, George Carmelo, Anthony along with Russell Westbrook,
Speaker 13: and then came the SGA story and along with him
Speaker 13: came you know, a lot of hope, a lot of promise,
Speaker 13: a lot of progress, a lot of painstakingly growth. But
Speaker 13: what you saw last night, here's the answer, the bread
Speaker 13: and butter of your question. This is this team's identity.
Speaker 13: What you saw from Aaron Wiggins coming off the bench
Speaker 13: getting eighteen points, what you saw from Alex Caruso, you know,
Speaker 13: getting twenty points. I mean, that's what that's the identity
Speaker 13: of this team. Yeah, you can pick on SGA and say, look,
Speaker 13: we're going to try to stop him, or we're gonna
Speaker 13: let him score. If you let him score, he'll score seventy.
Speaker 2: He'll kill you.
Speaker 13: Is telling you that now, So you have to respect
Speaker 13: you know that, Hey, he's the leading he's the NBA's
Speaker 13: leading scorer, NBA's MVP, and he's not afraid of the moment.
Speaker 13: But there's a lot of depth to this team. And
Speaker 13: maybe you didn't see, you know, maybe you saw a
Speaker 13: peekaboo of that on a couple of nights earlier, in
Speaker 13: Game one where the thunder led the whole way and
Speaker 13: then lost the game at the end on the Halliburtons shot.
Speaker 13: But you know the depth of this team, Isaiah Hardenstein,
Speaker 13: Shed Holmgren, I mean lou Dort, Caseen Wallace. You know,
Speaker 13: I've already mentioned Ac and Aaron Wiggins. It just goes
Speaker 13: on and on. Man, this is what this team is about,
Speaker 13: and that's what you're probably gonna expect from the for
Speaker 13: the rest of the series.
Speaker 2: Who does Sga remind you of on the offensive vent?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 13: And I say this with respect to him, he reminds
Speaker 13: me of a Jordan like player. He's not afraid of contact,
Speaker 13: he's not afraid to get in the mid range. He's
Speaker 13: got the three points shot know in his pocket, but
Speaker 13: he pulls it out timely when he wants to.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 13: It is in today's modern NBA, you know, it's it's
Speaker 13: offices are based around either the deep three point shot
Speaker 13: or the deep paint finish. He's brought back the mid range,
Speaker 13: you know. And you talk about guys that like made
Speaker 13: a living in the mid range, like the DeMar DeRozan's
Speaker 13: type players. SGA has really made teams start going, wait
Speaker 13: a minute, now, maybe we shouldn't be focusing so much
Speaker 13: on three point shooters. Yeah, that's important, that's the important
Speaker 13: part of the game. Analytically, I believe that, But that
Speaker 13: mid range where he dominates where he is just fun
Speaker 13: to watch. That's where he reminds me of Jordan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Jordan under the rim, you know, because Mike
Speaker 2: played at a different level literally and figuratively. But Sga
Speaker 2: can get his shot, like you watch and you go,
Speaker 2: how does he do it? There's certain guys that you go, Okay,
Speaker 2: I get you know that great scores or they get
Speaker 2: their shot. There's other guys where you got I don't
Speaker 2: get it. But he keeps doing it every single night.
Speaker 2: And you know, when you look at consistency at leading
Speaker 2: the league in scoring, does he want to lead the
Speaker 2: league in scoring?
Speaker 13: I don't think so. I think what I've seen in
Speaker 13: Shay since he got here after we traded for him
Speaker 13: after one season in Los Angeles with the Clippers, I
Speaker 13: saw a scrawny kid who was just hungry, wanted to win.
Speaker 13: And when I've talked to him, when I've seen him,
Speaker 13: he's always got that kind of approach to the game.
Speaker 13: He's a he's a magnet for friendships. You know, I
Speaker 13: heard a story and I knew about it, but I'm
Speaker 13: glad it got out about him becoming friends, really close
Speaker 13: friends with lou Dort. You know, lose lose first year
Speaker 13: with the team as well. Lou didn't have a place
Speaker 13: to stay yet, and Shae had just gotten here his
Speaker 13: first season. Say, why don't you stay with me. I'm
Speaker 13: not married, I don't have any kids. He's married, he has,
Speaker 13: you know, beautiful family. Now Shay does. And they were
Speaker 13: roommates for a season and then he turn around and
Speaker 13: when we drafted Jay Dubb, you know who's going to
Speaker 13: be a rising star, a tremendous player so far in
Speaker 13: this league. He said, look, because you're my rookie, I
Speaker 13: want you to pick me up and take me to
Speaker 13: the airport every road trip. See that kind of camaraderie.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Did you have a Jordan moment?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Good question.
Speaker 13: Here, here's my Jordan moment. Maybe he wasn't Jordan to
Speaker 13: everyone else, but I played with Michael Jordan on the
Speaker 13: national team nineteen eighty three Pan Am Games. We wanted
Speaker 13: to go medal down in Caracas, Venezuela. He was my
Speaker 13: roommate that whole summer, and he was my roommate at
Speaker 13: the village doing the PanAm Games and the tryouts that
Speaker 13: we had the year earlier, where there was Charles Barkley,
Speaker 13: all these you know, Karl Malone, John Stockton, you know,
Speaker 13: all these up and coming names. And there was this
Speaker 13: kid that everybody wanted to see over on court three.
Speaker 13: Now I'm on court one, there's court two, court three,
Speaker 13: and he said, this is Jordan kid. You know he's
Speaker 13: at North Carolina. You gotta go over there and see him.
Speaker 13: I said, I already know about him, but I'm like, going,
Speaker 13: after my game is over, I'm going over to court
Speaker 13: three and see this guy. And I saw him play,
Speaker 13: and I just said, man, he is so far above
Speaker 13: the rest of us. And I knew at that moment
Speaker 13: in nineteen eighty two, at the tryouts and at the
Speaker 13: games in eighty three, this guy was going to be
Speaker 13: the truth and he certainly was. Now did we ever
Speaker 13: think he eclipsed where he got to. No, but I'm
Speaker 13: not surprised because he's handled that kind of fame and
Speaker 13: that kind of you know, success really well.
Speaker 2: You seem really mild, mannered, nice cordial. Did you have
Speaker 2: any moments with Larry Bird where he would traysh talk you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: He just looked at me my rookie year and just said,
Speaker 13: you know, you can't stop me. And I said, I know,
Speaker 13: there's there's nothing else to say. You're Larry Bird. And
Speaker 13: I got that kind of you know, seasoning from Magic
Speaker 13: Johnson too, because I was right there in town when
Speaker 13: I should see him at grocery stores around LA and
Speaker 13: you know, at the gas station sometimes, or we're all
Speaker 13: going into practice because we practiced the same practice site
Speaker 13: at Loyola Marrimount back in those days, and Magic would
Speaker 13: just come up to me and talk to me and
Speaker 13: then turn around and kick my butt. I said, I
Speaker 13: don't know which one I like. I like the quiet
Speaker 13: bird kick your butt thing, then Magic shaking your hands.
Speaker 13: You know I'm going at you right.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the stories Michael, and good luck the
Speaker 2: rest of the series there.
Speaker 13: Thanks an great, great having me man enjoy the rest
Speaker 13: of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's Michael Cage, the pride of San Diego State, Yes,
Speaker 2: NBA rebounding leader back in nineteen eighty seven, eighty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had the Jerry Curl. I always remember that. It's
Speaker 2: like Michael Cage, Jerry Curl. Those are fun stories, all right.
Speaker 2: Let me see you got a couple of phone calls
Speaker 2: in here, Pete and Iowa, Hi, Pete, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I got a best and the worst and a
Speaker 14: quick question for you. The best and worst was the
Speaker 14: same thing Paul Schemes yesterday at seven and two thirds innings,
Speaker 14: gave up one earned run and got pulled with Philly
Speaker 14: got on first, got pulled, gets no decisions and it
Speaker 14: was just terrible Pitts. That's a great game and gets
Speaker 14: no credit for you.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 14: And my question is, uh, I'm an old guy seventy two.
Speaker 14: I shot sixty nine the other day.
Speaker 2: Good you.
Speaker 14: I was wondered you're getting up there. Do you ever
Speaker 14: think you will be able to shoot your agent golf?
Speaker 13: Um?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get to my age. It's just I have
Speaker 2: to keep playing like four more holes though, Pete. So
Speaker 2: that's the problem. Thanks for showing off there shooting your age.
Speaker 2: You can give me a thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Here all week here all be when we come back,
Speaker 2: the Dan nets will give you their best and worst
Speaker 2: of the weekend.
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Speaker 10: Almost won Alcoraz, but I'm going hockey. Friday Night's Stanley
Speaker 10: Cup Final Game two between the Panthers and Oilers. After
Speaker 10: game one went to overtime, this one went double. Ot
Speaker 10: Bread marsh On shorthanded go ahead goal in the second,
Speaker 10: then gets the game winning goal in double overtime, also
Speaker 10: on a breakaway. Worst Chicago Sky Courtney van der Slute
Speaker 10: so for a right knee injury Saturday night, how to
Speaker 10: be carried off the court by.
Speaker 3: Her teammates in the first quarter against the Indiana Fever.
Speaker 3: No further word on her condition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a torn acl Seaton O'Connor. Best
Speaker 2: and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 6: We'll go with the double best Dan and your favorite.
Speaker 6: It's both gonna be they're both soccer related. Oh yes, yeah,
Speaker 6: So I know you've been waiting for this part of
Speaker 6: the show. Let's go best of the weekend. I went
Speaker 6: to US men's national team versus Turkey A. US lost,
Speaker 6: which was unfortunate. However, Turkey A have two players that
Speaker 6: are really really exciting on like the world stage, and
Speaker 6: they're both young.
Speaker 2: They're both twenty years old.
Speaker 6: Arta Goouler plays for Real Madrid and Keenan Yieldez plays
Speaker 6: for Juventus. Those are both kids that say, twenty years
Speaker 6: from now, you could be like I got to see
Speaker 6: them play. They're both they're both really really highlighted. La
Speaker 6: Mina Mile gets a lot of attention. Arta Gooler is
Speaker 6: right behind him. He's a really exciting player. Got to
Speaker 6: see him score that was awesome. And then Portugal beating
Speaker 6: Spain in the Nation's League final. That was awesome, especially
Speaker 6: because we're not Although was there and he scored as well,
Speaker 6: and he you know, he's kind of disappeared off of
Speaker 6: the world stage a bit because of the league that
Speaker 6: he plays in now. But it was a great reminder
Speaker 6: of just how special of a player he still is
Speaker 6: at forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he took the money and uh, I don't know
Speaker 2: how how much money did he make. Does he make
Speaker 2: like one hundred million dollars?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a gajillion dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Who is the guy who played like one one match,
Speaker 6: got hurt and still got paid it like a hundredmar Now, okay,
Speaker 6: sonymar that's my favorite player. I love Neymar.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: He went.
Speaker 2: He signed in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 6: He signed for like an unbelievable amount of money. He
Speaker 6: ended up playing like two games, scoring like one goal
Speaker 6: and two assists or something, and got paid like two
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty million dollars. And now he's back in
Speaker 6: Brazil playing for his childhood.
Speaker 2: Club, Marvin. Best and Worst of the weekend.
Speaker 9: My best Hall of Very Good nominee Andrew McCutcheon hit
Speaker 9: a go hey, go ahead single for the Pittsburgh Pirates,
Speaker 9: who swept the Philadelphia Phillies this weekend.
Speaker 2: So good for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah. My worst of the weekend the Colorado Rockies.
Speaker 9: As soon as they had a three game winning streak,
Speaker 9: they go back to a three game losing street get.
Speaker 4: Swept by the Mets over the weekend.
Speaker 2: Poll Best and Worst of the weekend.
Speaker 5: Friday Night University of Texas softball team beating Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: Great TV, great drama, their first ever national title and
Speaker 5: the other best of the weekend because I don't have
Speaker 5: a worst man. I love John McEnroe and tennis never
Speaker 5: get rid of him. One of the handful of people
Speaker 5: that elevates every broadcast. The bigger, the better, and he's awesome.
Speaker 2: Zack and Knoxville. Hey Zach, what's on your mind today? Oh?
Speaker 8: Hey, DP, thanks for taking my call potential poll question
Speaker 8: better Kansas State Wildcat Michael Beasley or Jacob Poland the
Speaker 8: only time I get to use that reference. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 7: But I wanted to ask you about the OKC head
Speaker 7: coach Mark. I don't know how to pronounce his last day,
Speaker 7: but he doesn't seem to be getting a lot of attention,
Speaker 7: and I think the run that he is on with
Speaker 7: a young team, being young himself, just wants you to
Speaker 7: talk about what you think of the job that he's
Speaker 7: doing right now.
Speaker 2: Wasn't he the coach of the Year the previous year,
Speaker 2: so he has gotten recognition. You know, win a title,
Speaker 2: Win a title and you could kind of be in
Speaker 2: the you know, entering the Eric Spolstra type feel. And
Speaker 2: Spolster is going to be a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 2: He's already a Hall of Fame coach in my mind,
Speaker 2: but you know, then you get into that category. You know,
Speaker 2: one thing I was thinking about when I watched some
Speaker 2: of the tennis towards the end, when you look at Alcarez,
Speaker 2: a lot of athletes build off what has preceded them.
Speaker 2: You know, NBA players, you know they may have seen
Speaker 2: what happened with that player or that team. And you know,
Speaker 2: in tennis Alcarez it felt like he was channeling Rotha Nadal,
Speaker 2: but just the spirit of I'm not going to go away,
Speaker 2: Djokovic's composure and then Roger Federer's touch. So when you
Speaker 2: you put the combo platter together, you understand he's twenty
Speaker 2: two years of age and is the future of tennis,
Speaker 2: and hopefully Janick Center is as well. And then you
Speaker 2: get that rivalry because that's what makes it fun. When
Speaker 2: you have somebody where you know, Borg and McEnroe, it
Speaker 2: was just great. I know, we didn't really get to
Speaker 2: see somebody stand up to Serena because Serena was so great.
Speaker 2: You know, there were players who were really good, but
Speaker 2: you want that rivalry. That's what it's all about, going
Speaker 2: head to head, toe to toe. I mean That's why
Speaker 2: we love Burden Magic. It started in college, kept going
Speaker 2: in the NBA. They did have a couple of head
Speaker 2: to head matchups, you know, for a championship, that's what
Speaker 2: you want, you know, we were looking for that with Jordan.
Speaker 2: It just never happened. You know, maybe it was going
Speaker 2: to be Malone in Stockton. They had a couple of tries,
Speaker 2: didn't work. Magic at the end of his career wasn't
Speaker 2: ready for Michael. You know, that's the fun part of
Speaker 2: it when you look back and you go, boy, those rights,
Speaker 2: you know Alie and Fraser like he wanted to have that,
Speaker 2: and you know Mike Tyson never really had that, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean the guys he would fight normally weren't great fighters.
Speaker 2: And then he would fight somebody like Holyfield who was
Speaker 2: a great boxer. He couldn't beat him. Lenox Lewis he
Speaker 2: wanted no part of because Lennox Lewis was bigger than
Speaker 2: him and a better boxer. Mike was just a highlight. Yeah, Pauling, I.
Speaker 5: Went back and looked it up after you said it
Speaker 5: about Serena Williams who was her biggest rival, Well, it
Speaker 5: was her sister. That's the person who gave her the
Speaker 5: most trouble over her career, the second best. This is
Speaker 5: wild against Maria Sharapova, who was considered one of the
Speaker 5: best in the world. Serena was twenty and two.
Speaker 2: In their career. Yeah, I was going to say, wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: like we wanted Sharapova. You know, we were hoping for Sharapova.
Speaker 2: That it wasn't realalistic, and Serena knew that everybody wanted Sharapova,
Speaker 2: and that's why she went out of her way to
Speaker 2: make sure that she didn't just beat her, that she dominated.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, it's not like golf when he tried to
Speaker 4: make David Duval the heir apparent.
Speaker 2: Well, David Duval was the number one player in the world.
Speaker 2: I just don't think that he wanted to commit to
Speaker 2: what it took to be the number one player in
Speaker 2: the world because he went crazy in shape and health.
Speaker 2: And he's not Tiger. This was all Tiger cared about.
Speaker 2: This is what Tiger was built to do. David Duval
Speaker 2: just became a great golfer and the number one player,
Speaker 2: like Tiger, never wanted to lose it. David Duval then
Speaker 2: was like, I just want to be like a normal guy,
Speaker 2: maybe get married and have kids, and Tiger wanted to
Speaker 2: be great, still wants to be great. I'm sure, but
Speaker 2: I think that singular focus Tiger was comfortable with. I
Speaker 2: don't think David Duvall was. I think David talked about
Speaker 2: they were playing at the British Open, and Tiger ended
Speaker 2: up winning the British Open and beating David. Maybe and
Speaker 2: they had they were flying back on the same private plane.
Speaker 2: So there's there's Tiger with the trophy. You know, David's
Speaker 2: sitting across from him.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't see your face, David. Let me move
Speaker 2: the trophy over there. Oh, okay, there you are. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Tiger didn't make any reference having won. No.
Speaker 2: You imagine if Michael Jordan would have done something like that,
Speaker 2: like somebody say, you got a parachute because I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get out of this plane. Paul Fine, bamb Hill join us.
Speaker 2: What is the future of college sports? College football? I
Speaker 2: got questions. I don't know if he's got answers. More
Speaker 2: phone calls as well on this Monday back after this