1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: week on the show Enjoy Soul. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Lebron opted into his fifty two million dollar contract, and 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 2: then came the trade rumors. Rich Paul came out with 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: a statement and said, Lebron knows the Lakers are building 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: for the future. He understands that, but he values a 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: realistic chance of winning it all. You thought they were 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: going to come away with a sinner. They ended up 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: hitting DeAndre Hayton, who was a sinner. Yeah, but something 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: about this whole process. 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Has been peeing you off. Do you care to share 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: with the Audien? Yes? So, I have just been mystified 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: at the combination of misinformation, disingenuous commentary, and almost huffing 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: and puffing from the media, Like, ah, I guess we're 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: four first to talk about Lebron again. What the fuck 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: else has happened in free agency? The Kevin Durant trade 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: that all of us knew was coming, that we that 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: we talked about. That that was awesome, that was exciting. 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Other than that, it's been the deadest free agent agency imaginable. 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: One team at cap space. It was the nets. They 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: they decided to use it just to take other teams 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: bad contracts. Sham's was telling us a month ago this 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: could be the craziest offseason ever. Nothing's happened other than 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: the Durant move. The most notable move is Norman Powell 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: getting traded to Miami. Norman Powell, who, by the way, 27 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: oddly enough, the only time Norman Powell's been discussed on 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: regularly on podcasts and TV shows aside from once focused 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: on the Clippers was a different Lebron James thing when 30 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: people were like, oh, what did anyone think of Norman 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Powe and his all Star spot? If Lebron knew he 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna play and so but but I'm listening to 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: and reading folks basically be like, all right, I guess 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: will feed the content and engagement monster and have the boring, 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: tired discussion of could Lebron James be traded? You mean 36 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time? Or you know what? 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: Do not argue with, folks, the at worst second greatest 38 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: player of all time who's never been traded, who is 39 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: open now potentially to being traded. That's a boring discussion. 40 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: We'd rather talk about the Pacers losing Miles Turner because 41 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: they don't want to pay the tax because Halliburton got hurt. 42 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: That's what we'd rather talk about, Cam Whitmore for two 43 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: second round picks, Like what are we doing? This is 44 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and it's not lost on me today, this very moment 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: is the fifteen year anniversary. I didn't know that until 46 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: I saw an article wading about it this morning. Today's 47 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: the fifteen year anniversary of the decision, which means we've 48 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: had fifteen years of enhanced more, round the clock, more, 49 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: twelve month a year, three hundred and sixty five day 50 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: NBA transaction interest, from player empowerment, to the owners trying 51 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: to rustle it back, super Team's homegrown, all of it. 52 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: It came because Lebron and Maverick put together a TV 53 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: show and changed the whole paradigm. And fifteen years later, 54 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: he's still one of, if not the most interesting person 55 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: in the league, and folks who cover the league for 56 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: a living seem almost resentful that this is a story. 57 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: So I don't understand that. But that's I guess a 58 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: matter of taste. That's a personal preference, so be it. 59 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: But then there is what I considered the outright misinformation 60 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: might be too strong, especially in today's climate, but just 61 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: misleading and incorrect. I guess opinions on Lebron's money and 62 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: Lebron's value and Lebron's impact on winning, because here's what 63 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: I know. Last year we played, we had an offseason. 64 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: By the way, we're in the Olympics. They had a 65 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: whole All the best players in the world came together 66 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: in Paris to play a basketball tournament, and then they 67 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: voted on who was the most Valuable player in that tournament, 68 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: and it was Lebron James. Now, I argue you could 69 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: have gone co MVPs because Lebron carried the team up 70 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: until the final, and then Steph was so utterly brilliant 71 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: in the semifinal and the final. If you want to 72 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: split the baby, so be it. That's fine. But he 73 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: won the MVP of that. Then this year, we had 74 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: a whole NBA season, and then the entirety of basketball 75 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: media voted on awards, and after this season, if your 76 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: name was not Shay Gilgess, Alexander nikola Jokic, Giannis Antena Koumpo, 77 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, or Donovan Mitchell, basketball media said you were 78 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: not as valuable as Lebron James. Those are the five 79 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: guys that finished higher on MVP voting. Those are the 80 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: five guys who received more First Team All NBA votes. 81 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: That's the entire list, Not Steph, not Kawhi, not Durant, 82 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: not who's the younger guys that I'm leaving out, not Kid, 83 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: not Halliburton in the regular season. He obviously came on 84 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: huge in the postseason. None of those guys we had 85 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: an awards. We had a season sixth most First Team 86 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: All NBA votes, sixth most, sixth in the MVP voting. 87 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: And the reason I bring that up is then the 88 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: discussion around Lebron James being the thirteenth highest paid player was, well, 89 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: doesn't Lebron understand that a huge impediment to winning is 90 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: his salary? In what world? In what world is the 91 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: league's I don't know all be conservative eighth best player 92 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: being the thirteenth highest paid player an impediment to winning. 93 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: We just saw the Golden State Warriors trade for and 94 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: then extend Jimmy Butler, and the narrative surrounding that is 95 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: that open steps championship window. Jimmy Butler makes more money 96 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: than Lebron and is worse than Lebron. They say it again, 97 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: but no, I'm talking about the right now, the right now, 98 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: because by the way, I would bet Lebron's got as 99 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: many all NBA caliber seasons, more All NBA caliber seasons 100 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: left in him than Jimmy Butler does. Jimmy Butler's done 101 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: being an All NBA player. Lebron was last year, and 102 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Steph and Lebron probably have about the same amount of 103 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: seasons left, give or take. And I'm talking about the 104 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: here and the now. People thought that the Warriors made 105 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: a great move giving Jimmy Butler that money, and it's 106 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: a touch more than Lebron makes, and he's a worse player, 107 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: great player, but a worst player. He like, in what 108 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: universe is Lebron James making less than Karl Anthony Towns 109 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: and the same as Paul George a bad contract, not 110 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: a world where he was second team All NBA and 111 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: sixth in MVP voting. So there's that piece of it 112 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: that if you're the seventh or eighth best player in 113 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: the sport and you're the thirteenth highest paid player in 114 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: the sport, you're on a bargain contract, then there was 115 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: this piece of it, Well, if he was really focused 116 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: on winning, he should have taken less to help the Lakers. 117 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: And that was that is a understandable opinion by fans 118 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: and a just abhorrent job by the media in perpetuating 119 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: that because Ron James, if he had cut his salary 120 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: demons from fifty if he had opted out of the 121 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: fifty two and said, you know what, I'll play for twiny, 122 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: you know how much cap space that opens up for 123 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers zero dollars, not a penny, because 124 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: they're that far over the cap already. If Lebron James 125 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: had said I'll go from fifty two million to the 126 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: league minimum, it would have opened up roughly ten million 127 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: dollars in cap space for the Lakers. Ten million bucks. 128 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: So this idea that the Lakers could have been these 129 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: major players in free agency if Lebron had simply taken 130 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: a discount is belied by just the facts. And it's 131 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: also it's also, and we all know this is true, 132 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: a disingenuous to discussion because had Lebron, let's say Lebron 133 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: opted out and said, I'm going to be a free 134 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: agent and guess what, guys, I'm going to play for 135 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: the minimum, the entire conversation would be about stacking the deck, unfair, 136 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: faking like that. So there was him simply saying, I 137 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm the thirteenth ice paid guy in the league. 138 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,239 Speaker 1: I'm probably pretty underpaid. And that's even before you consider 139 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: all of the off court stuff that I bring to 140 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: the table. So yeah, I'll just play for my fifty 141 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: million is more than totally reasonable? Was there? 142 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: Like, so you have to but he opted into the contract, 143 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: Like what would his other options have been? 144 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: He could have opted out and been a free agent. 145 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: He could have opted out and been a free agent 146 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: and signed anywhere for the literally any where for the 147 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: league minimum and leave fifty million on the table or 148 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: a lot of places for the mid level, which is 149 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: about fourteen million bucks. And the only team that could 150 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: have signed him for more than fourteen million dollars would 151 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: have been the Nets, which would have made no sense. 152 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: So those were go ahead? And why did he not 153 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: do that? 154 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: Are you saying, like because he thought the Lakers were 155 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: going to do a better job with secure in a 156 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: better SAE. 157 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I think it's a I don't 158 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: think there is a perfect solution here for you know what, 159 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: they're trying to accomplish all these things. And I'm a 160 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: big believer of you can't have everything you want in life, 161 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: and sometimes, like you, you know, you have to make 162 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: trade offs. I'm not sitting here arguing that the Lakers 163 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: owe him something more than they owe Luca, which is 164 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: to try to win a damn chancepion chip this season. 165 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: And I'll get to the Lakers piece of it in 166 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: a minute. I'm not saying that there is a perfect 167 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: solution for what he's trying to accomplish. What I'm saying 168 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: is the narrative that a huge impediment to winning is 169 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, when you pay a player way more than 170 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: he's worth, that's gonna hurt you. Like the example of 171 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: people use is you know, Kobe at the end when 172 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: Lebron was, according to NBA voters, which I am not, 173 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: was the sixth best player in the league last year. 174 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: So that part is to me just erroneous. Then there 175 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: is the Okay, you've made over a billion dollars, you 176 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: want the Lakers to be more competitive, take less money 177 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: Dirk style and give them flexibility. When you look at 178 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: it that him taking less money would not have given 179 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: them any flexibility. And then there is this other part 180 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: of it which I mentioned on TV yesterday, and it 181 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: was the way it was captioned made it seem like 182 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: more of a shot at Durant than I wanted it 183 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: to be. But I said what I said, which was 184 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: and this is the part to me demans that I 185 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: find no one can explain this to me correctly, nobody. 186 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: Do who do you think right right now this moment, 187 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: And there's no wrong answer here to monse because you 188 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: might disagree with me. Who do you think right now 189 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: this moment is better Durant or Lebron? And do you 190 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: think it's close in either direction? 191 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: Offensively, I'd say Kevin Durant. But as far as who's 192 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: a better player, the better players just yeah, better all around. 193 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: I'd have to give it to Lebron. But it's either way, 194 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: it's pretty close, probably, right, yeah, exactly, like the like 195 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: if one guy's the eighth best player in the league, 196 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: the other guy's the tenth best player in the league 197 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: or nine to twelve or whatever. Right, So I and 198 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: despite the age, I think we can agree that Lebron 199 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: is the more durable player has been Like you know 200 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: what I mean? Lebron is less likely to miss thirty 201 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: games with an injury. That's just that's not a matter 202 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: of opinion. We just we just know it. Okay. So 203 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: here's what I don't understand. Kevin Durant was available for trade, 204 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: and the media lost its mind. Who should go after him? 205 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: These are the teams Rant doesn't want, the Minnesota Should 206 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota trade for him? Anyway? If you trade for him, 207 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: do you just do you want to just give him 208 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: a contract? The Rockets were the two seed, gave up 209 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: their leading scorer, a valuable defender who I don't like 210 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: in Dylan Brooks, and the tenth pick of the draft, 211 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: and everyone's reaction was like, what a great job by 212 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: the Rockets. They might win the title. A guy who 213 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: at the very least is as good as Durant and 214 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: I think a touch better is available potentially, and the 215 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: same media is like, who fucking want him? I mean, really, 216 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. That's what I don't understand. 217 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Like last year, last year, Lebron was better than Steph. 218 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: They are similar, and Lebron's older, but again like the 219 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: kind of similar port places in their career. Steps team 220 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: was in twenty four and twenty five when they traded 221 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: for Jimmy Butler, you felt like it made them contenders. 222 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: They lost to the Timberwolves and five in the playoffs. 223 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: Lebron's team was hanging on to the three four seed. 224 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: They trade for Luca you felt like it made them contenders. 225 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: They lost to the Timberwolves and five in the playoffs. 226 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: That's like they had after very similar Olympics, very similar seasons. 227 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: They Lebron finished hire an MVP and all NBA voting, 228 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: But it was very close. Right If Steph Curry had 229 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: released a statement like I don't know about the future 230 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: of the Warriors and people thought he might be available, 231 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: it would be a full stop freakout about what teams 232 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: should package, what things to try to get him. And 233 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: we just saw it happened with Durant when last year 234 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: Lebron was better than both those guys, and the collective 235 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: reaction is well, I guess maybe maybe a team or 236 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: two should make a courtesy call and a collective eye 237 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: roll of I can't believe we're having this discussion. Has 238 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: everyone lost their mind? 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Yeah, uh so this DeAndre did this 282 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: interview two days ago, I think one whatever it was, 283 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: the interview that he did, we played a piece of 284 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: on the TV show yesterday, and we did not play 285 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: this piece because it was a radio interview in La 286 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: and I, you know, I had I didn't know that 287 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: this was said. So credit to whomever clipped this and 288 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, posted it, because I didn't. I hadn't listened 289 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: to the full fifteen minute or whatever radio interview it was, 290 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: and so I had only seen kind of what had 291 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: made mainstream, so to speak. But I saw this and 292 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, that's something. So And the 293 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: reason it's something is because it is either how do 294 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: I phrase this properly, Lebron's not gonna be there? Well, 295 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: to me, it's not that is so that is by 296 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: no means like, oh lock it in because of that this, 297 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: but it certainly added a little more fuel to the 298 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: idea that Lebron James might not be a Laker next year. 299 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: That it's that so famously or I shouldn't. I don't 300 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: know if it's famous, but at least to me, it 301 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: is Lebron when he announced he was going back to Cleveland, 302 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: and he did it with Lee Jenkins. In an SI article, 303 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: he listed all the guys he was excited to be 304 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: playing with with the Caps, and he had not listed 305 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: number one overall pick from a week prior, Andrew Wiggins. 306 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: And one way to read that was the article was 307 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: written before the draft, or that he was you know, 308 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: he was only thinking about or including the active veterans. 309 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: And another way to look at it was Lebron exp 310 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: did that they would be trading Wiggins as part of 311 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: getting a veteran win now guy, and that is exactly 312 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: and so he did not want to include Andrew Wiggins 313 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: when he did not think he was ever going to 314 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: be playing with Andrew Wiggins, which is exactly what they did. 315 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: So here are before I give my opinion on what 316 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: I think this actually is, let's lay out all of 317 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: the available options for this and we can, you know, 318 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: put a percentage on each of them at the end. 319 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: Option one busy guy forgot. Let's like again, like these 320 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: are not power ranked in order. I'm just saying, if 321 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: we want to lay out all of the possibilities, right, 322 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: Option one Busy guy forgot. I guess Option two is 323 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: not that Busy didn't forget, but has some feud with 324 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: DeAndre eight we didn't know about, and he's furious about 325 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: this trade. I would say of all these, that's probably 326 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: the least likely. I think if there was a DeAndre 327 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: eight and Lebron beef, we would have known about it right. 328 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: Option three he did and DeAndre didn't see the text. 329 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: Deandre's wrong because he said Luca texted him and Lebron 330 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: didn't so at night and he didn't say anyone talked 331 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: to him on the phone. They missed the text. Got 332 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: so many texts that you know, when the news broke 333 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: that he got a text from a number that he 334 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: didn't have, it was like, yo, congrats man, let's get 335 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: it and he was like, okay, whatever, and it turns 336 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: out that's Lebron James. Again, these are not power ranked 337 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: in order. I'm just trying to lay out all of 338 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: the available possibilities. Those first three, by the way, slim 339 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: to very very slim, but they're on the possibilities all 340 00:23:52,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: right now. The more salacious ones that Lebron does not 341 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: want to tell DeAndre Ayton excited to play with you 342 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: when he does not know if he will be playing 343 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: with him, and then the last option is Lebron wants 344 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: to expect to be playing with DeAndre Ayton, but wants 345 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: to keep maximum pressure on the Lakers to make every 346 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: move possible to make their team better going into this year, 347 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: and the only leverage he has over them right now 348 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: is the specter of well maybe I don't think I'm 349 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: going to be on this team. That to me, those 350 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: are the those five possibilities cover you know, ninety nine 351 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: percent of the call it one hundred percent of what 352 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: the reason could be. Here's how I would apply the 353 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: likelihood of each my first draft pick of that would 354 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: be Lebron thinks he's going to be on the Lakers, 355 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: did not reach out to DeAndre because he had a 356 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: feeling it would be become public that he had not 357 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: yet reached out to DeAndre and wants to keep the 358 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: pressure on Rob Polenka to continue to improve the roster, which, 359 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: if we're being honest, they have had a underwhelming off season. 360 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: On that note, if I may, then I'll get back 361 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: to the percentage's parts. Because Brew and I got into 362 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: this yesterday. Going into this off season, we felt like 363 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers. It was an absolute lock and mandatory that 364 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: they upgrade the center position. They did do that, and 365 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: they did that in an interesting way where they didn't 366 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: have to give up assets, where it didn't cost them 367 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: a lot of money, and the talent upside is quite high. 368 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: But it's also a guy who's six years into his 369 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: career has been unreliable and not that mature and really 370 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: alienated teammates and coaches. 371 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: So I really think Lebron James is like, man, y'all 372 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: got DeAndre and that's not the center I wanted. 373 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm not texting him, I'm not welcome. Oh it's got 374 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: to the team. Oh so youth. Oh so you think, 375 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: oh I should have included that one. I guess as 376 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: a good Lebron is Lebron is pissed that it was 377 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: a Yeah, Oh so I didn't. Actually, So the reason 378 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I didn't even think of that, but that's obvious. I 379 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: definitely should have. I guess that's kind of that, you know, 380 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: in the lock of de Thief. Oh yeah, for sure. 381 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: So here's the reason that I'm I don't put a 382 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: pin in that real quick, and let me finish this 383 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: other thought. Then we'll get to that one. Because that's good. 384 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that one. So they did get 385 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: a center, and we can argue about if it was 386 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: their best option, if it was the best of bad options, 387 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: whatever it is. But the rest of the roster not 388 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: only remained basically unchanged, but got to touch worse because 389 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: switching out Dorian Finney Smith for Jake Lauravia is at 390 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: the very least in the short term of downgrade and 391 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: so there would be real frustration there. So I would 392 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: put Lebron expects to be a Laker but wants to 393 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: keep the screws on the Lakers to continue to make 394 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: moves as the reason for him not reaching out. I 395 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: would put that at sixty five percent. I think that 396 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: is the biggest percentage here. I would put Lebron didn't 397 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: reach out because he does not think he's going to 398 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: be a Laker next year at twenty percent. I think 399 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: there is a one in five shot right now that 400 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: Lebron thinks, yeah, I'm not going to be on the team. Now, 401 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 1: that's not that's that's not huge, but it's not nothing. 402 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: It's you know, more likely than rolling a single die 403 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: and rolling a six or any number on the die, 404 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: any particular number on the die, so sixty five percent 405 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: he's trying to keep the pressure on him. Twenty percent 406 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: he he doesn't think he's going to be there. I 407 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: will give Demons's he you know this is not the 408 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: player he wanted and therefore he didn't reach out at 409 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: five percent. I will certainly massively upgrade Demonse's theory if 410 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: we found out he did reach out to Jake Laavia, 411 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: if like he was like, yo, man, let's get it, 412 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: then then your likelihood is way way higher. I will 413 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: put it at busy guy just didn't do it at 414 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: five percent, and that leaves what oh, that leaves five 415 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: more percent left, and I will put it at he 416 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: did reach out. DeAndre Ayton didn't have the number saved 417 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: and did not know it was Lebron who was like, 418 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: why is this person texting me with a crown at 419 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: four percent, and I will put there is a long 420 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: standing maybe base, maybe out of loyalty to his buddy 421 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: crisp All DeAndre Ayton beef at one percent. So that's 422 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: that's how I handicap this whole thing. It's not nothing though, 423 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: that's my takeaway. It's not nothing, and I I am 424 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: interested in the next time could you know, because you 425 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: know what's also not nothing? Demanse if we're doing the 426 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: not nothing meter. The Lakers who sent out a bunch 427 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: of press releases about a bunch of offseason moves. The 428 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: Lakers not sending out a press release about Lebron opting 429 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: into his player option. That's also not nothing. Now does 430 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: that mean it's everything at no? No, no no. This 431 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: press releases come from the team, like your official press 432 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: release is released by the team and sent to all 433 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: NBA media. The most you want to know, the most 434 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: famous NBA press release ever. Hold on, I gotta, I gotta. 435 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: I want to quote it to you exactly. This is 436 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: an all time one. So pat Riley, who's never my 437 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: light just fell? Do I still look? Okay? I hope? 438 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: So the so pat Riley un official in Miami Heat 439 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: letterhead sent out to the league, league comes and everyone 440 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: covering the league after Danny Ainge took a shot at 441 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: pat Riley. So this is so let me give you 442 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the background. Danny Ainge till Boston is twenty thirteen, Danny 443 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: Angelo Boston radio station WEI that Lebron James had no 444 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: cause to challenge officials for failing to classify fouls assessed 445 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: Kirk Heinrich and Taj Gibson as flagrant. He said, quote, 446 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: I think the referees got the calls right. I don't 447 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: think it was a hard foul. I think the one 448 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: involving Lebron against Boozer that was a flagrant. I think 449 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: the officials got it right. I think that it's almost 450 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: embarrassing that Lebron would complain about officiating and the So 451 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: Danny Ainge, who was running the Celtics, comments on the 452 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: radio about something that was happening between the Heat and 453 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: the Bulls. So pat Riley has the Miami Heat press 454 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: office type up an official press release that reads, and 455 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: I quote, Danny Ainge needs to shut the fuck up 456 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: and manage his own team. He was the biggest whiner 457 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: going when he was playing, and I know that because 458 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 1: I coached against him. End of statement. I like, at 459 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: all time, at all time, all take the fine, but 460 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: I've never liked this guy. I coached against him, we 461 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: now play against him. And I quote Danny Ainge needs 462 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: to shut the fuck up and manage his own team. 463 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: He was the biggest whiner going when he was playing, 464 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: and I know that because I coached against him. Oh 465 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: my goodness, gracious, Danny ains then again, I don't know 466 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: why we're doing this. Aine then replies, I stand by 467 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: what I said. That's all. I don't care about pat Riley. 468 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: He can say whatever he wants. But this is just 469 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: Danny Ainge talking. This isn't a press release. This is 470 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Danny Ainge. And then Aine added, I don't want to 471 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: mess up his Armani suits and all that hair goop. 472 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: It would be way too expensive for me. And so 473 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a that's so sorry about that. 474 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: I mean, pat Riley's just such a legend. I mean, 475 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: he's just sucking y'all. I remember when that came out 476 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, I didn't even know that was 477 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: like a loud like in official communications. I guess, you 478 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: know what a simpler time. Yeah. 479 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: So Holmes wants to get past that Super Bowl loss 480 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: and get that nasty taste out of his mouth, and 481 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: he's it's also getting tired of all the talk, saying 482 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: that he wants to just settle all this on the 483 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: football field. This is another thing that really annoyed you, 484 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: which I'm curious what the angle is here? 485 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: What what pg off? Well, it's not no, no, no, 486 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: his comments didn't annoy me last week, which was so, 487 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: here's the deal. If someone wants to have the courage 488 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: to come out and be like, you know what, you know, 489 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: here's a take, free take for someone who wants it. Okay, 490 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: It's just sometimes sometimes I'm disappointed in uh my industry 491 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: because there are these I can see these. I'm like, oh, 492 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: that would be a good take. I don't believe it. 493 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: But no one has made had this take, and it's 494 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: right there, and I know it would cut through the 495 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: noise and you could establish yourself with it, and no one, 496 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: no one, no one has said it. Now, I don't 497 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: believe this. This is not my take. So consider this 498 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: like the sports take version of developing some type of 499 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: vaccine or cure for something and be like, we're not 500 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: patenting it. Anyone can copy it free for the world 501 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: public use. Here's a take. The last few years, Patrick 502 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: Mahomes has pretty clearly not been judged based on his numbers. 503 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: He's been judged based on the fact that his team wins, 504 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: that he is a leader, that he plays his best 505 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: in the biggest spots, and that is how he has 506 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: held onto the best quarterback alive Moniker despite the fact 507 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: that his two biggest conference rivals, Josh Allen Lamar Jackson, 508 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: have both won league in vps in this time and 509 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: if that has allowed Mahomes to climb to the top 510 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: of the quarterback mountain, then the exact same standard should 511 00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: be used to evaluate Jalen Hurts and Jail Who's never 512 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, whose team wins double digit games every year, 513 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: who's been to two Super Bowls, been awesome in both. 514 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: Some would argue out played Mahomes in both, certainly in 515 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: this last one, and has done it with what you know, 516 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: let's call it, a polarizing coach and a polarizing receiver 517 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: in a tough city and now is coming off, you know, 518 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: leading an offense to damn near one hundred points combined 519 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: in the conference championship game in the Super Bowl and 520 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: puts his body on the line, doesn't care about his 521 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: passing numbers for the most unstoppable play in football. That 522 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: player the defending Super Bowl MVP. He's the best quarterback alive. 523 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: And take that take is again, I do not believe it, 524 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: but it doesn't have a ton of logical holes if 525 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: someone wanted to have it instead, these dopes want to 526 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: knock Mahomes off his perch of best quarterback in the league. 527 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: And they are doing it for one of three quarterbacks, 528 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: really one of two and mostly one of just one 529 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: who's never once out played him in a big spot. 530 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: It's the majority of quarterback rankings lists right now. I 531 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: have Josh Allen number one, which is hilarious and in 532 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: the file, and it is not an allowable take until 533 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: one time in a spot that matters. He it's not 534 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback winsday he outplays Patrick, and the last two years, 535 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: one in his building, one in the Chiefs building, He's 536 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands, chance to go do it, 537 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: and it couldn't get forty yards either time, So that's 538 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: not allowed. Lamar can win every MVP from here until retirement, 539 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: and until he wins a single big game, it's obviously 540 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: not allowed. And Joe Burrow had outplayed Patrick in a 541 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: big spot, had a chance to really put a stake 542 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: in the heart of the Chiefs through fourth quarter interception 543 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: the conference championship game lost and hasn't been back to 544 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs since, And the amount of people trying to 545 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: argue any one of those three guys has ascended past 546 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: Patrick because Patrick got beat by Jalen Arts and they 547 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: played poorly in the Super Bowl. It's the dumbest shit 548 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. You then combine it with this whole 549 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: ooh to the Chiefs era over based on what that 550 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: they were just the second best team in football last year, 551 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: based on the fact that they just completed the best 552 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: three year stretch in the history of the league and 553 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: are tied for the best five and seven year stretches 554 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: in the history of the league. What is the what 555 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: is the piece of evidence you have, like, oh, this 556 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: might be the Broncos or Chargers year. There is none, 557 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: And so the again, the Eagles have bragging rights and 558 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has bragging rights. And the Eagles have it 559 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: because they won as a team, and Jalen Hurts has 560 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: it because individually he played. You know, he was the 561 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: best quarterback on the field that Sunday. But these AFC 562 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: also rans that are being elevated because of what I 563 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: just I can't I can't deal with just one time 564 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: at one time? Can I just see? It's what I 565 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: said to that guy in Hawaii, the is guy I'm 566 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: walking I'm walking with the family down the boardwalk in 567 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: Honolulu and this guy walks up to me. It's like, 568 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: a man, this is Bill's country out here in my head, 569 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's fucking not, man. It's actually I'm 570 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: not sure there's a place in the United States that 571 00:41:54,280 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: is that is further removed literally geographically but also spiritually 572 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: from Buffalo, New York as the boardwalk in Honolulu. Like, 573 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: first of all, it's just a bad take. Second of all, 574 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: get a life. I didn't say any of that. I'm like, okay, 575 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: nice to me. Like five minutes later, he runs me 576 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: down and was like, hey, man, I'm so sorry I 577 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: said that. Can I please get a picture? And I'm 578 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: like sure, so I take the picture. He's like yeah, man, thanks, 579 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: sorry about that, and I'm like sorry. But then I 580 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: couldn't resist because I was like, I'm with my wife 581 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: and kids like, so I was like, I was like, 582 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: hey and listen, man, one day you'll win a big game. 583 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: And I saw a look on his face and it's stung. 584 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: You know why. It's stung the same reason why when 585 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: people put up that picture of me and Mahome a 586 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: couple of parades ago, where I'm smiling and my nose 587 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: is casting a shadow on my teeth. It stings because 588 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: you know it's true. I'm like, damn, that is weird. 589 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: That is like a thing that most people like. It 590 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't be physically possible, but it's a thing, or it 591 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: does cast a shadow like that sucks. But that's why 592 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: it stung him, because he knows it's true. And so 593 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: I just don't that I it is. It's really beyond 594 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: dumb to me, the every other let me add one 595 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: other thing. And I said this to Cowherd, and he 596 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: just laughed because he knew I was right, not just 597 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: like this year, but basically for all of modern NFL history. 598 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: If there is a team in a division that everyone 599 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: agrees the same team has the division's best quarterback and 600 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: the division's best coach, that team will be the pick 601 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: to win that division. If there's no debate, like it's 602 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: just like so, I'll give you an example. NFC West, 603 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: there's a debate is McVeigh or Shanahan the best coach? 604 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 1: And I guess for some there might be a debate 605 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: is perty or Stafford the best quarterback? Not to me, 606 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: but what like, there's it's not often there that it 607 00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: is crystal clear on both but when it is, uh, 608 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: that team is everyone's picked to win the division and 609 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: the amount of people this year that are gonna pick 610 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: fucking bon Nicks, sorry for all the curse words today 611 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: to win that division. Or Justin Herbert who again, I 612 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if he's won a big 613 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: game since high school, and I have to look at 614 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 1: the high school. I don't think he did it Oregon. 615 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: I it's just it's just dumb, you know what. 616 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: I just I just people get fickleed with the greatness. 617 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if people just don't sometimes. 618 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: But they think we have the next Trent Williams and 619 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: John Simmons. Oh boy, oh boy. Now that might be 620 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: a little strong. True Williams one of the greatest players 621 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: of all time. But if they just if Josh Simmons 622 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: just ends up being the tenth best tackle left tackle 623 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: in the league slightly above average, it is such a 624 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Mahome has been to five Super Bowls. He 625 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: had a different starting left tackle in all five. It 626 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: would be just such a massive, massive wors line situation. 627 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: Yet right course of this, you know, the thing is 628 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,479 Speaker 1: what's weird is the Chiefs had a really good guard 629 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: center guard O line this year. The tackle, it was 630 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: the worst tackle play he's had, and previously they had 631 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: they had been bat up the middle but good of 632 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: the like, and so it got really shaky by the 633 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: end of it.