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Speaker 3: People that try to engage you in conversation, like the
Speaker 3: person ringing you up at the grocery store and you know,
Speaker 3: I'm buying some groceries. I'm buying a gallon of milk
Speaker 3: and some carrots, So what are your plans for tonight?
Speaker 2: And I realize you're gonna drink milk and eat carrots.
Speaker 3: That is exactly how I answer, usually because I'm a
Speaker 3: smart ass and annoyed by those questions, and I feel
Speaker 3: bad because it's not their fault, I don't think. I
Speaker 3: think many times you're told that that will make the
Speaker 3: customers feel more welcome or something. And like I said
Speaker 3: on the radio the other day. I wish there was
Speaker 3: some sort of stamp I could get or thing I
Speaker 3: could work around my knackers says, I'm not one of
Speaker 3: those people. I don't feel more likely to come back.
Speaker 3: If you engage me in conversation, I feel less likely
Speaker 3: to come back. It's not your fault.
Speaker 2: But although I do require the basics of polite society,
Speaker 2: because occasionally you'll be in a place a grocery store
Speaker 2: or maybe not so high end, or person's having a
Speaker 2: bad day and they don't even acknowledge your presence.
Speaker 3: They just start ringing stuff up. Did we talk about
Speaker 3: this on the air or not? About the the person
Speaker 3: ringing me up who had the ear piece in?
Speaker 2: Do we talk about that on the air. I don't
Speaker 2: think so. Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I'm at a dollar store and because I agree, Hey,
Speaker 3: how you doing good?
Speaker 2: How you fine? Got to have that? Find everything?
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, that's fine. I have no problem with that whatsoever.
Speaker 3: The nothing is weird. And so I was checking out
Speaker 3: the dollar strum with my two boys and checking out,
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, how's it going. She says nothing
Speaker 3: to me and rings me up, and I said, have
Speaker 3: a good day. She said nothing to me, and I
Speaker 3: walked down and I said that girl shouldn't be working there.
Speaker 3: If I owned that store, I'd be so freaking pissed
Speaker 3: off to know that I have somebody work in the
Speaker 3: register that doesn't even say hello.
Speaker 2: And he said that she had her earpiece in. She's
Speaker 2: listening to music. I said, well to.
Speaker 3: That, absolutely freaking firer And he said that in. My
Speaker 3: son was like really taken aback by my response to that, Like,
Speaker 3: everybody has their earpiece in. It's okay, it's not a
Speaker 3: big deal. She's listening to music. And my son always
Speaker 3: has his their piece in, I mean always, and I
Speaker 3: have to take it out. I want to talk to you.
Speaker 3: I want to be able to talk to you. I
Speaker 3: want to know when I talk to you you can
Speaker 3: hear me. I mean if we're riding in the car
Speaker 3: or whatever. And it's just part of that age group.
Speaker 3: They have it in always with each other. Like if
Speaker 3: there's four dudes sitting around talking, they each have an
Speaker 3: ear piece in listen to music. I guess, wow, I
Speaker 3: don't know what that is, if it's just like a
Speaker 3: fashion thing or if their brain actually desires it. But
Speaker 3: I thought, when I'm dead and it won't be long.
Speaker 3: I'm in the winter of my life. The next generation,
Speaker 3: they'll all have your pieces in and they won't expect
Speaker 3: any communication whatsoever because they're all listening to music or
Speaker 3: a podcast, and so I guess they'll go.
Speaker 2: Through the store checkout. Nobody will talk to each other.
Speaker 3: You know, you ride together in a car somewhere, nobody
Speaker 3: says a word to each other because you're all listening
Speaker 3: to your own stuff in your head. It's just gonna happen.
Speaker 3: There's no stopping it. But it makes me nuts.
Speaker 2: But I didn't realize it'd gotten that bad.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he couldn't believe that it bothered me
Speaker 3: that she had an ear piece in and didn't respond
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: Because that's the way his generation does it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: shocking to me. Yeah, I know, I know well, and
Speaker 2: it's resulted in so much unmistakable misery and isolation. I
Speaker 2: just if I'm casting my bets for who's in charge
Speaker 2: of the world in two hundred years, it's the young
Speaker 2: and hungry and backward civilizations right now, although they may
Speaker 2: well as soon as they get hold of the technology
Speaker 2: and the food. I mean that every country that goes
Speaker 2: from like eleven cents per capita for GDP to like
Speaker 2: over a dollar fifty. They immediately become obese, and they
Speaker 2: adopt all of the modern stuff that's killing us. I
Speaker 2: just think we've invented her own doom. We've invented too
Speaker 2: many pleasures to resist. No country for old men, right,
Speaker 2: But back to like people that aren't teenagers, where you
Speaker 2: expect some sort of normal give and take with the
Speaker 2: cashier or the dental hygh genius came up the other day.
Speaker 2: Katie brought up she hates it.
Speaker 3: When they ask her questions when they got their hands
Speaker 3: in your mouth because you can't answer anyway. Katie's not
Speaker 3: here today because she's sick. But we got this text
Speaker 3: about that because we were wondering. I'm sure the dental
Speaker 3: hygh genius is told to make conversation. It makes the
Speaker 3: patients feel more comfortable or something like it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, helps distract them from things that
Speaker 2: bother you or scary or whatever.
Speaker 3: Sure, longtime listener, this person text lived in San Francisco
Speaker 3: for twenty years.
Speaker 2: I now live in Manhattan. Okay.
Speaker 3: Wow, one of those people that there are only really
Speaker 3: a couple places you can live in America, Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: New York, maybe San Francisco or Chicago, but those are
Speaker 3: your only options. I know a number of people like that.
Speaker 3: The only places they've lived are those very big cities.
Speaker 3: But anyway, as a long time dental hygienist, employers do
Speaker 3: not tell you to engage in conversation with the patients.
Speaker 3: Some patients absolutely want us to talk and tell them
Speaker 3: stories to take their time off the process or their
Speaker 3: mind off the process. Yeah, and a good one will
Speaker 3: get a sense from the patient whether they want to
Speaker 3: talk or be quiet, which I do appreciate that you
Speaker 3: picked up on my hateful, hateful.
Speaker 2: Murderous vibe that I don't want to talk. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: It is perfect perfectly polite to tell us how you
Speaker 3: want to experience the appointment. It's your money, your time,
Speaker 3: so tell them, please talk me through this, help distract me,
Speaker 3: or say I'd prefer to sit here and just think
Speaker 3: and stare at the ceiling or listen to a podcast
Speaker 3: or something. You don't need to talk to me. That's
Speaker 3: not a bad idea. Just tell them ahead of time.
Speaker 3: I'm not a person that wants to talk, so don't
Speaker 3: feel like you have to. I don't know, as I
Speaker 3: come off as being a dick.
Speaker 2: M I would guess among the folks that have bothered me.
Speaker 2: And when I say bothered me, it's fine, it's really
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's a yeah. The first world problems, I
Speaker 2: mean serious, yeah. Yeah. In the list of things that
Speaker 2: actually bother me, that's way way way down. But the
Speaker 2: gal who I've worked with at times in the past,
Speaker 2: I'll just say that dental hygennis. I could write a
Speaker 2: fairly brief but reasonably complete biography of this one, and
Speaker 2: that is her Boswell to her Johnson, you could write
Speaker 2: a biography of her, having just followed her around. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I just there's no need for that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fine. I just I'm not going to put on
Speaker 2: They my old dentist. And I've been very fortunate to
Speaker 2: have had two dentists in the last thirty years. They've
Speaker 2: both been fantastic. My old dentists. They have to give
Speaker 2: you twenty years, so we have that in common. Wow.
Speaker 2: But they would give you headphones, but I would always
Speaker 2: just wear one because they have to communicate with you.
Speaker 2: Can you tell your head a little toward me great
Speaker 2: or you know whatever, open a little less that's to
Speaker 2: help them do their thing. And so I've never been
Speaker 2: comfortable with and maybe it's my generation with being in communicata.
Speaker 3: No, like you're gonna have to communicate with it, you know,
Speaker 3: the one that I hate the most. And this is
Speaker 3: a different topic, but the one I hate the most.
Speaker 3: Blood draws. And I even if I tell first of all, yeah,
Speaker 3: don't talk about it, and then even if I tell
Speaker 3: them not to talk about it, most of the time
Speaker 3: they do. Look, just I'm fine with this will be okay,
Speaker 3: Just I don't want to don't talk about it at all.
Speaker 2: Let's not talk about it.
Speaker 3: Still, I'm gonna get a ooh, you got some juicy veins.
Speaker 3: This will be easy. Or having trouble finding your veins
Speaker 3: is gonna be hard to get the needle into your
Speaker 3: veins because I need you to clench your down.
Speaker 2: Stop talking about it. It's all right. I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear word about it.
Speaker 3: Let me just sit down, look at the wall, pretend
Speaker 3: something else is going on.
Speaker 2: You jab me. I'm fine. Some people, and this covers
Speaker 2: every occupation known to mankind, be they a humble street
Speaker 2: sweeper or a skilled brain surgeon, or something in between.
Speaker 2: In every profession Jack. There are dumb asses or people
Speaker 2: who are so emotionally not intelligent they can't take an
Speaker 2: effing hint and see it from your perspective.
Speaker 3: And it's it's annoying with me, but really annoying with
Speaker 3: my son, who every time but once has thrown up
Speaker 3: when he gets a blood dry and gets so anxious
Speaker 3: and nervous and out of control and everything like that,
Speaker 3: and we have multiple adults have to hold him down.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a horrific experience every time we get there.
Speaker 3: But I go in there ahead of time and say,
Speaker 3: let's just not talk about it at all. He really
Speaker 3: struggles with this. I say what I just said and
Speaker 3: everything like that. And almost all the time they say,
Speaker 3: the needle's not that big. Sea here, look at the needle.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna no, no, you affing more on.
Speaker 2: How do you not get this? Wow? Wow? I don't
Speaker 2: think there's anything you can do for a person like that. Oh,
Speaker 2: here I'm gonna do, got me the needle? How do
Speaker 2: you like to hear? Suppose you're not? So probably not now,
Speaker 2: But next podcast I will tell you this. Next One
Speaker 2: More Thing podcast the discussion of your Disposable Dog series
Speaker 2: will not die, and and the the responses and thoughts
Speaker 2: and pelosifizings are not getting less interesting, they're getting more
Speaker 2: cool when we're turned to Jack's brutal and hateful dispatch
Speaker 2: of innocent dogs and probably cats at a future date.
Speaker 2: So more psychopathy on the next one. More thing. You
Speaker 2: know what, my next dental appointment, I'm gonna look at
Speaker 2: the hygendas and say, if you don't mind while you
Speaker 2: clean my teeth, tell me about the Cuban missile crisis.
Speaker 2: Just give them a topic. I'm gonna Givehm a topic. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. I decided,
Speaker 2: since we were talking about war, to look for quotes
Speaker 2: about war, and the Google AI overview gave me a
Speaker 2: couple of dozen in three groups on the futil of war,
Speaker 2: on the human cost of war, on the importance of peace.
Speaker 2: I like this one, and then I hate it. There's
Speaker 2: nothing that war has ever achieved that we cannot better
Speaker 2: achieve without it. That's the dumbest thing. You are a moron.
Speaker 3: If you say that out loud, I would just get
Speaker 3: up and walk out of the room if an adult
Speaker 3: said that a lot, because you can't engage with them.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's a very dopey point of view. Oh
Speaker 2: my god. John Kennedy.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, so if the other side wants
Speaker 3: to go to war, then what do you do?
Speaker 2: We could have better achieved it with peace. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: just that's that is greeting card rhetoric. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: not wrong exactly, but that's that's the sort of sort
Speaker 2: of thing people say because they don't want to engage
Speaker 2: in the really difficult decisions of adulthood of reality. Right,
Speaker 2: mail bag drove us a note mail bag at Armstrong
Speaker 2: Andngetti dot com.
Speaker 3: That's the kind of guy that's gonna watch Top Gun
Speaker 3: in honor of Val Kilmer as opposed to Tombstone.
Speaker 2: That guy right there, that's too harsh. Jack asides your
Speaker 2: Bob Wrights on the topic of the Wisconsin Supreme Court thing.
Speaker 2: I guess I'll just call my boss this morning and
Speaker 2: tell him to f write off. The end of civilization
Speaker 2: is near, according to Elon, and I'm not gonna spend
Speaker 2: what a little time we have left working. Good point, Bob,
Speaker 2: let's see Barry from Thailand, who's actually from the US,
Speaker 2: but he's in Thailand, says for all the good Musk
Speaker 2: is done, he really needs to stay under the radar
Speaker 2: for a while. He's becoming like the brother who lives
Speaker 2: in the White House. Keep doing good stuff, Elon, but quietly, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3: The Democrat won there in Wisconsin, and how much it
Speaker 3: had to do with Elon?
Speaker 2: Who knows?
Speaker 3: But the left then mainstream media is acting like it
Speaker 3: was a referendum on Elon. Clearly that the whole election
Speaker 3: was a referendum on Elon. None of us live in
Speaker 3: Wisconsin and saw all the ads or have any idea
Speaker 3: what either of the judges are like personnel wise or
Speaker 3: anything like that. Right, it's just a referendum on Elon.
Speaker 3: If the mainstream media can successfully make it a referendum
Speaker 3: on Elon for the twenty twenty six midterms, Oh god,
Speaker 3: dang it, you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna get tired of hearing about Elon Musk. Oh too late, already.
Speaker 2: I'm already tired of hearing about him. Not what he's doing,
Speaker 2: just hearing about it. Yesterday was it Monday? I brought
Speaker 2: up I read an email from a chap who said, Hey,
Speaker 2: the illustration you gave of price controls and socialism by
Speaker 2: telling a story about a dairy farmer, and you couldn't
Speaker 2: find the right episode. By the way, it's not that
Speaker 2: you have two cows and communism X and socialism. Why.
Speaker 2: I know that that's very good and very funny, but
Speaker 2: this is something different, So please stop writing those emails.
Speaker 2: But Matt, why buy the cow if the milk is free?
Speaker 2: Is that one? No, that's a different one too, Matt writes, Guys,
Speaker 2: just use chat GPT. It'll tell you in three seconds.
Speaker 2: Check out this interaction. How easy he was to find
Speaker 2: the info. Here's what he did. What's the episode of
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Geddy where Joe explains socialism by telling a
Speaker 2: story about a dairy farm? And in a fraction of
Speaker 2: a second, it appears that Joe Getty discussed socialism using
Speaker 2: a dairy farmer analogy and at least two episodes of
Speaker 2: the Armstrong Getting on demand podcast Oh My God. The
Speaker 2: first instance is in the episode titled Hell Yeah Say
Speaker 2: That out Loud, published approximately seven months ago. Second occurrence
Speaker 2: is in the ang replay Thursday Hour four, released about
Speaker 2: three months ago. In both episodes, Joe uses the example
Speaker 2: of a dairy farmer to illustrate economic principles relating to
Speaker 2: price controls and government intervention. That's amazing, and then gives
Speaker 2: the date of the episode so I can find it
Speaker 2: on Armstrong and getting.
Speaker 3: On demand, So in the near future it's going to
Speaker 3: be was the name of that girl she always wore
Speaker 3: a ponytail sat next to me in fourth grade English class?
Speaker 2: That was Jenny Jones. Jack, She's grown up, cute as
Speaker 2: a button too. Would you like me to reach out
Speaker 2: via Facebook? Right? I hear her marriage is on the
Speaker 2: RUSS WHOA chat GPT WHOA. She mentioned you the other
Speaker 2: day to a friend and got a far off look
Speaker 2: in her eye. How about this bridget and beautiful Hillsburg, California. Guys,
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent with you on college needing a complete,
Speaker 2: almost uber esque overhaul after completing my sociology degree. Sorry
Speaker 2: Joe at Johns Hopkins. You know at least one of
Speaker 2: my kids has a worthless degree. It's just what they
Speaker 2: were really really into. Anyway. I had no idea what
Speaker 2: I wanted to be when I grew up the best
Speaker 2: thing that happened to me was joining a consumer products
Speaker 2: division at a major company where I got to see
Speaker 2: in real time, in the real world, what each department
Speaker 2: of this vertically integrated business did. I got to see sales, operations, finance, production, HR, legal,
Speaker 2: and marketing. After a year, I knew that my path
Speaker 2: was marketing and never looked back. That's what college needs
Speaker 2: to be, a place where students can be in different
Speaker 2: work environments to identify their desired path. What was that
Speaker 2: word in there? Though?
Speaker 3: I think that word in there that that's where, that's
Speaker 3: where the work. I'm not sure that how often that happened. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's that. Let's say I've learned more about sleep chronotypes.
Speaker 3: We can talk about that in a little while. Ye've
Speaker 3: got we got a story today Katie dug up about
Speaker 3: what was that screen time and going to sleep a
Speaker 3: new study.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie's probably a dolphin. Jack is a wolf or
Speaker 2: a dolphin in terms of sleeping. I'd rather be a
Speaker 2: hammer than a nail. Let's see. And this is all anonymous.
Speaker 2: I think the cold plunge sounds terrible, but his life
Speaker 2: changing unheated pool works great. I thought about that the
Speaker 2: other day.
Speaker 3: I got to pool in the backyard that's freezing cold
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: He does it before bedtime? Oh god, four three, four
Speaker 2: days a week.
Speaker 3: Even if I could do it the first day, I
Speaker 3: just don't think I could do it the next night
Speaker 3: and stand there and think why am I doing this?
Speaker 2: And then Scott brings up quite correctly that if you're
Speaker 2: gonna paint a swastik on a car for being a
Speaker 2: literal Nazi, there's a much better brand nominee. Okay that
Speaker 2: Old Ah himself may have helped get going back in
Speaker 2: the day in Germany, but they're not freaking nazzies, and
Speaker 2: either is quit What the swastik is?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: Moron? So? What's the swastik in Tesla?
Speaker 3: Is it all because of that wave they claim was
Speaker 3: a Seeghile?
Speaker 2: Is that the whole thing?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, it's it's that he's banding with Trump and having
Speaker 2: federal workers fired. That proves he's a Nazi. He's on
Speaker 2: Trump's side. Trump's a fascist, He's the new Hitler. Where
Speaker 2: have you been?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Trying to make government smaller makes you a Nazi? Everybody
Speaker 2: knows that. Are you a closeted Nazi yourself? I'm beginning
Speaker 2: to wonder I'm gonna paid a swastik on him. Yeah. Now,
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Speaker 3: So the New York Times headline is FCC releases sixty
Speaker 3: minutes interview with Kamala Harris. Remember she did a big
Speaker 3: sit down in sixty minutes leading up to the election,
Speaker 3: got a lot of a lot of scrutiny because while
Speaker 3: she very rarely answered questions, and when she did, it
Speaker 3: was nonsensical.
Speaker 2: So it always got a lot of scrutiny.
Speaker 3: And then we all found out, like the next day
Speaker 3: or very soon thereafter that there was some editing and
Speaker 3: the promos and this and that, and did they cut
Speaker 3: one of our answers to make her seem less crazy?
Speaker 3: And all that sort of stuff that was out there
Speaker 3: in the world. But so this sixty minute this story
Speaker 3: from The New York Times Today again FCC, the FCC
Speaker 3: released this, not c I mean they made CBS get it.
Speaker 3: FCC releases sixty Minutes interview with Kamala Harris. The complete interview,
Speaker 3: which is at the center of a lawsuit filed by
Speaker 3: President Trump, shows that sixty Minutes aired a concise version
Speaker 3: of Miss Harris's answer on israel I. Thought it was
Speaker 3: interesting that the New York Times what with that is
Speaker 3: kind of the subheadline, because if all you look at
Speaker 3: is that, you certainly come away with the Trump was right,
Speaker 3: they were wrong. They were trying to screw him. I
Speaker 3: think that's the way most people are gonna take that story.
Speaker 3: This is the way CBS presented it.
Speaker 5: We now have some news about CBS itself. Sixty Minutes
Speaker 5: has posted on cbsnews dot com transcripts and videos from
Speaker 5: it interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris that aired
Speaker 5: back in October. The FCC had requested these materials as
Speaker 5: part of an investigation into a complaint alleging quote intentional news.
Speaker 2: Distortion close quote.
Speaker 5: The issue concerns one question about whether Israeli Prime Minister
Speaker 5: Benjamin at Yahoo was listening to the Biden administration. CBS
Speaker 5: News broadcast a longer portion of Harris's answer on Faced
Speaker 5: to Nation, and then a shorter excerpt of the same
Speaker 5: answer on sixty minutes. In a statement, sixty Minutes said
Speaker 5: the transcripts and video show quote the sixty minutes broadcast
Speaker 5: was not doctored or deceitful close quote, adding that each
Speaker 5: excerpt reflects the substance of the Vice president's answer.
Speaker 3: Which is a better story, a better explanation of it
Speaker 3: than They're probably not happy at CBS the way the
Speaker 3: New York Times boiled it down to one sentence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I mean more concise is And it
Speaker 2: doesn't strike me as that judgmental either way.
Speaker 3: Honestly, New York Post version uncut. Now we're about to
Speaker 3: play the actual clips, but uncut. Sixty minutes Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: interview reveals word salad responses were heavily edited by sixty minutes.
Speaker 3: Uh snipped Israel answer to just twenty words. Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: gave a one hundred and seventy nine word meandering answer
Speaker 3: on Israel that sixty minutes cut to twenty words, according
Speaker 3: to the transcripts released yesterday.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's the editing.
Speaker 3: One hundred and seventy nine word answer to twenty words. Now,
Speaker 3: as executive producer Hanson has been talking about as a
Speaker 3: guy who's produced lots of different kinds of radio shows
Speaker 3: and sports highlights and all kinds of different stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what we do all the time the media business.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3: You have to for all kinds of reasons, time keeping
Speaker 3: people's attention, jazzing it up, making it punchy. Theho really
Speaker 3: seems to be to me that in this particular case,
Speaker 3: the number one knock on the candidate was they couldn't
Speaker 3: answer a question without going into word solid mode. I mean,
Speaker 3: that was like one of the key questions with her
Speaker 3: right a campaign issue. But what question are we asking here?
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you the reason I asked that. I mean,
Speaker 3: CBS is wildly biased, wildly and I think most people
Speaker 3: know it. This lawsuit is nuts. It'll be dismissed very
Speaker 3: very quickly.
Speaker 2: Well, so you're going to the legal thing. I don't
Speaker 2: care about the legal thing.
Speaker 3: I think politically it's going to be damaging, absolutely damaging
Speaker 3: to the media. Slash sixty minutes and these I certainly
Speaker 3: win for Trump, I think. And Trump doesn't think he's
Speaker 3: going to win the lawsuit.
Speaker 2: I don't think. Oh no, I think he just wants
Speaker 2: to people to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Although getting back to the New York Times article, right,
Speaker 3: and we're talking about it in a way that suggests
Speaker 3: that sixty minutes did edit the answer to make her look.
Speaker 2: Better, which you know, I'm sure he's very happy with.
Speaker 3: But farther down in the New York Times article about this,
Speaker 3: sixty minutes argues that it did nothing wrong. It's common
Speaker 3: practice for news organizations to edit for ah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Getting into the legal.
Speaker 2: Part of it, I want to get this because this
Speaker 2: is really good, mister Troops.
Speaker 3: Lawsuit has led to angst at CBS, where many staff
Speaker 3: members believe that any settlement would be a symbolic concession
Speaker 3: to the president and an acknowledgment of wrongdoing by sixty Minutes.
Speaker 3: Bill Owens, the executive producer of sixty minutes, said Monday
Speaker 3: in a meeting with staff that he would not apologize
Speaker 3: to Trump as part of any settlement with the network.
Speaker 3: But it looks like that's probably what going to happen.
Speaker 3: CBS is going to pay something to get this over
Speaker 3: with and wants to include an apology, but the guy
Speaker 3: involves it, I'm not apologizing, and the staff that works there,
Speaker 3: we've heard this over and over again right, New York
Speaker 3: Times sixty minutes, all these different left leaning organizations. The
Speaker 3: staff gets all upset. We can't have we can't give
Speaker 3: an inch on any of these things. The people at
Speaker 3: the top or the lawyers often have a different point
Speaker 3: of view of we need to settle this. It's only
Speaker 3: going to get more expensive. People settle these kind of
Speaker 3: things all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. On the other hand, if they do, I'll be
Speaker 2: really disappointed. You can't settle it. I'll be interested to
Speaker 2: see if they do or not.
Speaker 3: I'm having this conversation with my kids the other day
Speaker 3: about why lawyers recommend settling things when you did nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: It's just a dollars and cents question. Often. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: I were a smarter lawyer than their lawyers, i'd say,
Speaker 2: you're going to be handling one of these suits every
Speaker 2: week and a half to I don't know, four days.
Speaker 2: If you settle this, oh you edited it made me
Speaker 2: look bad or made me unhappy. No, you can't settle
Speaker 2: this suit.
Speaker 3: Yeah I wonder. I wonder where it's going or how
Speaker 3: it's going to turn out. But anyway, let's play the clips,
Speaker 3: the actual clips.
Speaker 2: So this is.
Speaker 3: One version of the question and answer clip seventy one
Speaker 3: there between Bill Whitaker and Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.
Speaker 6: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
Speaker 6: in a number of movements in that region by Israel
Speaker 6: that were very much prompted by or a result of
Speaker 6: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen
Speaker 6: in the region.
Speaker 2: I'm mostly reminded listening to that what a dope she is.
Speaker 3: She was a dope. But here's the same question, different answer.
Speaker 3: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.
Speaker 6: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
Speaker 6: the United States to be clear about where we stand
Speaker 6: on the need for this war to end.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a tough one. I mean, not the legal part.
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in that part. But that's a tough
Speaker 3: one from a like even a news standpoint, I mean
Speaker 3: because normally, yeah, you're interviewing.
Speaker 2: Whether it's a politician or a coach or whoever you
Speaker 2: tried it, you just try to get it down to
Speaker 2: the answer.
Speaker 3: You had a question and you want the answer, and
Speaker 3: you want to give the answer to the people who
Speaker 3: are watching her listening, and you want to be short
Speaker 3: and interesting and easily understood.
Speaker 2: But in the case of.
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, because she was such a meandering dope God,
Speaker 3: the story is the long, meandering dopiness. That is the story.
Speaker 3: What she she doesn't say anything? Ever, I don't know
Speaker 3: from a like even a journalistic standpoint, would I think
Speaker 3: how you should handle that? I mean, if you hadn't
Speaker 3: unlike all other politicians, editing her at all was significant
Speaker 3: to the interview. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I mean,
Speaker 3: what was the total on the words there that I mentioned.
Speaker 3: This is from the New York Posts counting of it.
Speaker 3: She gave the total answer, which I don't think we
Speaker 3: you can. The whole thing is out now. I started
Speaker 3: watching yesterday. It's like an hour long. But the whole
Speaker 3: thing is out there, and I'll have to watch us later.
Speaker 3: They didn't er it in the sixty minutes interview, the
Speaker 3: whole thing at all.
Speaker 2: But Kamala Harris gave.
Speaker 3: A one hundred and seventy nine word answer to that question,
Speaker 3: and then sixty minutes cut it down to twenty words,
Speaker 3: which still sounds dumb. She still sounds like she has
Speaker 3: no idea what she's talking about, Well, that first version
Speaker 3: was I was like, oh, that's right, Yeah, boy, she's
Speaker 3: that dumb. But that's the Trump that's the twenty one
Speaker 3: that's the twenty word version that they edited it down to.
Speaker 2: I want to hear the whole herd seventy nine words?
Speaker 2: The hell does she saying? Good Lord? Keeping in mind
Speaker 2: she only lost because of misogyny and racism according to
Speaker 2: the new head of the DNC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think what's going to come out
Speaker 3: of this, And like, looking at that New York Times subhead,
Speaker 3: people are gonna hear see Trump sues sixty minutes, turns
Speaker 3: out sixty minutes did edit it. I think that's what's
Speaker 3: going to be in the the ether of the conversation
Speaker 3: about this. Yeah, if it becomes against the law to
Speaker 3: edit answers at all, I don't know how we would
Speaker 3: even move forward as a species, those of us who
Speaker 3: play clips for a living.
Speaker 2: And if you're not familiar with this, politicians, especially if
Speaker 2: they're in an even semi hostile forum, we'll try to
Speaker 2: filibuster you. Yeah, you'll ask them, are you going to
Speaker 2: vote for the Jones Amendment? And five and a half
Speaker 2: minutes of rambling. Later you'll finally finally be like, can
Speaker 2: we redirect plays? And they do that intentionally, so you
Speaker 2: have to edit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point right there. It's often to
Speaker 3: not have to answer the question and BORI to death,
Speaker 3: or knowing that you're gonna have to get to a
Speaker 3: break at some point.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of horror movies. I just
Speaker 2: I don't take them. But if I want to be horrified,
Speaker 2: I'll sit around in daydream for five minutes about what
Speaker 2: it would have been like if Kamala had won and
Speaker 2: we were going one hundred miles per hour down the
Speaker 2: road of DEI and white guilt and men playing women
Speaker 2: sports and squandering money in the ridiculous USAID programs, one
Speaker 2: hundred different examples.
Speaker 3: It's too terrible to contemplate. We you know, I believe
Speaker 3: in the parallel universe thing. I want to I want
Speaker 3: Elon to put me on a spaceship to go to
Speaker 3: the parallel universe where she won and see how it's
Speaker 3: playing out. Holy cow, no kidding, man. You talk about
Speaker 3: a different next four years.
Speaker 2: Well, in foreign policy wise, what are our adversaries going
Speaker 2: to do with President Kamalaw in charge?
Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2: See Armstrong and Getty Show Joey three years are working together.
Speaker 3: This is the low moment, right so, at the end
Speaker 3: of the last segment, you're about to hear it. I'm
Speaker 3: I struggled, Joe said, it was off the air. He
Speaker 3: said during the commercials, that is the worst moment. And
Speaker 3: thirty years of doing this show, listen to this. Katie's
Speaker 3: already laughing. She will not soon be cleared.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear it again. I'm not looking
Speaker 2: forward to hearing it again.
Speaker 3: I can explain myself, I think, well, I can't really
Speaker 3: explain it, but I know what happened anyway. This is
Speaker 3: how it sounded. What you're about to hear happen like
Speaker 3: six minutes ago.
Speaker 2: Spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important, as is sleep,
Speaker 2: hope you are well or on the strong, Oh beautiful,
Speaker 2: beautiful again, Michael. Spacing off and daydreaming is incredibly important,
Speaker 2: as is sleep, hope you are well or at So
Speaker 2: I was trying.
Speaker 3: I was in my mind what I was going to say,
Speaker 3: and usually, as a person who speaks for a living,
Speaker 3: what I have in my mind can come out of
Speaker 3: my mouth quite quickly event or an alternative version. And
Speaker 3: I've never felt physically this. I've never felt this before.
Speaker 3: My tongue it felt like it was three times its
Speaker 3: normal size, and it just or all nor some point
Speaker 3: happened with my jaw on my tongue. I hope it's
Speaker 3: not the beginning of a horrible disease or something that
Speaker 3: I'm about to.
Speaker 2: Find out that would be unfortunate, And I feel bad
Speaker 2: about my giggling. Just all of a sudden, my mouth
Speaker 2: would not.
Speaker 3: Work or.
Speaker 2: Well. See, I thought it was because if we're up
Speaker 2: against a heard break, which means there's no flexibility, we
Speaker 2: have to take it at that very second. Michael will
Speaker 2: count us down last ten seconds. And I could see
Speaker 2: you looking at your phone or notes or something like
Speaker 2: that as Michael was counting down, and as he got
Speaker 2: down a three to one, I could tell you weren't
Speaker 2: aware of it, and you looked up mid sentence with
Speaker 2: one second left, and I assume your brain just locked up.
Speaker 3: Or all no on the I don't think that was
Speaker 3: it all because I was I don't think that was
Speaker 3: it because I was trying to read what it was alternative.
Speaker 2: I was trying to read and it just hung for hours.
Speaker 3: My words are hard exactly A hope you are well
Speaker 3: or all no on the wow car.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I have been making my car payment or house payment
Speaker 3: as a broadcaster for forty one years, and that is
Speaker 3: the worst moment I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: It was a good run. That was my worst moment
Speaker 2: right there. I just came across, not long ago, one
Speaker 2: of the most beautiful and touching things that I've seen
Speaker 2: in a very long time. And that is a farewell
Speaker 2: message from me a love. Do you recognize that name?
Speaker 2: She was the young black woman who's elected the Congress
Speaker 2: in Utah. She'd been a mayor and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: She was the first black woman Republican in the House
Speaker 2: of Representatives and really interesting person. She died recently of
Speaker 2: brain cancer, and she wrote what she said not a
Speaker 2: good was not a goodbye message, but a thank you message.
Speaker 2: And it is absolutely beautiful. And again I wish I
Speaker 2: had time for more, but I'll give you a little
Speaker 2: bit of it. Dear friends, fellow Americans in Utah. And
Speaker 2: so I'm taking up my pen not to say goodbye,
Speaker 2: but to say thank you and express my living wish
Speaker 2: for you and the America I know, And then she
Speaker 2: describes the end of the battle with brain cancer and
Speaker 2: why she and her family have decided that now it's
Speaker 2: time to just be with each other as posed more treatments.
Speaker 2: Anybody who's gone through that terrible experience notes which she's
Speaker 2: talking about. As mayor, member of Congress, and media commentator,
Speaker 2: I've seen the worst of petty politics, devisive rhetoric, and
Speaker 2: disappointing lapses of moral character by some. These same roles
Speaker 2: also provided me a front row seat and a backstage
Speaker 2: pass to be blessed and inspired by the courage, vision,
Speaker 2: and hope of America's finest daughters, sons, and citizens. Couching
Speaker 2: this column as a dying wish felt a little dramatic,
Speaker 2: even for a drama person like me. We are not
Speaker 2: certain how long the season of my battle will be,
Speaker 2: and I do want to share and reshare some things
Speaker 2: with the world that I passionately believe. I write all
Speaker 2: of this as my living wish and hopefully enduring wish
Speaker 2: for you. Let me tell you about the America I know.
Speaker 2: My parents immigrated into the United States with ten dollars
Speaker 2: in their pocket and a belief that the America they
Speaker 2: heard about really did exist as the land of opportunity.
Speaker 2: Through hard work and great sacrifice, they achieved success. So
Speaker 2: the America I came to know growing up was filled
Speaker 2: with all the excitement found in living the American dream.
Speaker 2: I was taught to love this country warts and all,
Speaker 2: and I understand I had a role to play in
Speaker 2: our nation future. I learned to passionately believe in the
Speaker 2: possibilities and promise of America. And she talks a lot
Speaker 2: about watching her mom and dad work our odd jobs
Speaker 2: to provide for the kids and the education that they got.
Speaker 3: God, I hate to turn this negative, but that's what
Speaker 3: I do. It makes me nuts that there are so
Speaker 3: many children of privilege on college campuses. I mean, you
Speaker 3: grew up an upper class lifestyle. Now you're at an
Speaker 3: expensive university and you're down and sad in our anxiety
Speaker 3: medicine and became angry because you believe the country so
Speaker 3: off awful and you can't make it right. Oh right,
Speaker 3: That just to me, You know, I dole hands are
Speaker 3: the devil's playthings. That just shows the corrosive power of
Speaker 3: lack of purpose. And anyway, and this part I love too,
Speaker 3: Watching my mother and father work odd jobs in order
Speaker 3: to provide for us and maintain their independence. Taught me
Speaker 3: valuable lessons and personal responsibility. When tough times came, they
Speaker 3: didn't look to Washington. They looked within, because the America
Speaker 3: they knew was centered in self reliance. The America I
Speaker 3: know is founded and the freedom self reliance always brings.
Speaker 3: What makes America great is the idea that when government
Speaker 3: is limited and decisions are made closest to the people
Speaker 3: they impact. People are free, free to work, free to live,
Speaker 3: free to choose, free to fail, and free to achieve.
Speaker 3: The America I know provides everyone an equal opportunity to
Speaker 3: be as unequal as they choose to be. We will
Speaker 3: have a link to this entire essay at Armstrong and
Speaker 3: getty dot com. I suggest you very strongly you read
Speaker 3: it because there's a lot more to it. What said
Speaker 3: saying of whether you think you can or you think
Speaker 3: you can't, you're right, you're right. It reminds me of
Speaker 3: that with the philosophy of you either believe this is
Speaker 3: a country where you can work hard and make it,
Speaker 3: or you don't. You believe that that's a lie that
Speaker 3: people tell you. I've heard Bruce Springsteen say that they
Speaker 3: push this lie that you work hard and you'll make it.
Speaker 2: Nephew Bruce, Oh my god. Yeah.
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