1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Well, let's get back to one of our top stories. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's about Tessa with its third quarter revenue figures and 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: they fell shy of analysts estimates. Let's get over to 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: David Welch Bloomberg Detroit Period chief. David give this festival 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: in the overview of what test that did right and 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: wrong and what the company was saying. Yeah, I think 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: one thing they did right. So they did beat Arnings 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: for share our fire they beat by a couple of 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: but four pennies bypennies not terrible. But what the markets 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: reacting to in the last I work shares with down 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: four a half percent in after market trading, is they 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: missed on revenue and also missed on vehicle sales value. 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: The reasons they say are less to do with semiconductor 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: chips and that sort of supply chain stuff and more 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: to do with shipping. But investors still worried because they 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: don't know when they're going to get all of those uh, 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: supply chain and transportation issues fixed, and you know that 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: could pretend for maybe you know, missing sales again in 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: the four quarter. Euan Musk said that they're still going 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: to be able to hit their target of boosting sales 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: production this year, but they're going to have to have 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: a really real knockout fourth quarter at the plant level, 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: will be able to do that. They're gonna build about 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: five vehicles, so there's some doubt about that, and the 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: shares are done. I think people are taking a cautious look. 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a closer look at China. It's it's understandable 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: in some ways that you know, we know what's happened 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: in China this past year and it's not likely to 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: change overnight. But that would investors not give Tesla a 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a pass over that or do they 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: actually blame Tesla for so much exposure in China given 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: the way the country has moved. Um, I don't think 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: the investors are going to blame Tesla for having exposure there. 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: It's a good ev market, it's huge, the government mandates 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: in some places that that's pretty much all you can buy, 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: and they're a leader there, so they've got to be there. 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: They've got to capitalize on the growth that Chinese actually 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: really like that brand quite a bit. But they're gonna 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: be bumps here because of COVID, the way the government's 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: handling it and the economic issues that they're having in 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: the market, and everyone's going to have to weather through that. 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Investors may take away and see attitude, and I think 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: they are in the case of Tesla, because the shares 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: are down thirty seven percent, which is a bigger drop 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: than the SEP has seen. So you know, clearly Testa 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: was taking once not only because of their exposure in 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: China on a sales basis, but I think their shares 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: are exposed to it as well. And you know, what 49 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: once was a high flying growth stock that was immune 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: to all of these different global economic inputs is now 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: kind of suffering along with everybody else. Yeah. But given that, 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: and given what's happened, what is the company saying about 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: its targets? Do you want must saying they can still 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: hit their their target for the year, but again that 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: that requires a grade fourth quarter. It's possible. There's often 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot of up demand. A lot of times there 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: are vehicles that are built but not completely finished because 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: maybe it's chips, or there are things that just need 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: to u get shipped out or shipped in, and you 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: can can finish things quickly. Living here in the Detroit area, 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: we don't have Tessa production, but I can tell you 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: there are a lot filled with GM and four vehicles, 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: a C nearly finished trucks that are just waiting for 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: some semiconductor or some module and and so sometimes production 65 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: can be made up very quickly if it's just a 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: supply chain issue. But they're really gonna have to knock 67 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: it out of the park of the seventy in in 68 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: a quarter of the time. That's a third, that's more 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: than a third of what the yearly target is. So 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: it won't be easy, but again seasonally good period. Uh. 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: But the competition is coming for you. Are they not 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: there yet? Uh? This has been something that that analysts 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: investors have been watching for for quite a while with Tesla, 74 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: and I think when people question why didn't Tesla hit 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: their their sales targets, I don't think it's the case 76 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: in the third quarter they missed their sales targets because 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: competition is here, although board others are and the Korean 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: automakers are starting to sell more electric vehicles, but that 79 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: does kind of hang over the stock. I think the 80 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: markets looking for that moment when all the other carmakers, 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: the legacy carmakers as we call them, Mercedes, BMW, General 82 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: Motors scoord Volkswagen on Ikea start to sell a lot 83 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: of electric vehicles and cut into the market share of Tesla, 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: and they will, and because they're all gonna be selling 85 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: expensive vehicles. And I think, look, some of those other 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: car companies may be better positioned to capitalize on growth 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: in the mass market than Tesla, because Test those vehicles 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: are all expensive. You're gonna see uh Korean e v s, 89 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: and you're gonna see Ford and g M ebs that 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: sell forty or less. In the case of General Motors, 91 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna see some on as little as thirty thousands, 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: and Tests it doesn't have anything like that. Their vehicles 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: are selling Fords. So yes, we see the market go 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: to e vs. I think others are better a position 95 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: to capitalize on mass market growth. Yeah, I've been joking that, 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, investors are selling the dream. Tesla's down almost 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: fifty in the past year, selling the dream, buying you know, 98 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: more sort of stodgy, old fashioned, old American companies. Maybe 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: after hours down five point four percent today. Um, so 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: definitely a story that investors not all that comfortable with 101 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: these earnings. David Welch has been with us Bloomberg Detroit 102 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: Bureau Chief