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Speaker 1: which I don't know about you. I can honestly say

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Speaker 1: multiple times in my career it's like I don't know

428
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Speaker 1: if I'm quite ready for I remember when I first

429
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: got hired by the Eagles, I'm like, this is a lot,

430
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: but I didn't have a choice. I was there, but

431
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: I just had to figure it out on the fly.

432
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was going to make it

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Speaker 1: six months. I don't think how he thought I was

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Speaker 1: going to make it six months. It was intense, you know,

435
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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five years old. I felt like

436
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: I was over my head a little bit. Luckily, I

437
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 1: worked around a lot of good people. They're basically all

438
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: still in the league, and I just kind of figured

439
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: it out on the fly. But I was the lowest

440
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: guy in the Totem poll. When you get put in

441
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: some of these positions, is why a lot of coordinators

442
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: flame out, to why a lot of head coaches flame

443
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: They're not ready. So I give you a lot of

444
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: respect for Hey, I'm not ready. I'm not comfortable. I'm

445
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: making a ton of money. I'm in a good spot.

446
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with it. No problem with that. I do think, though,

447
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: there is a way to conduct business. And I would

448
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: imagine there are a lot of people listening that are parents, right,

449
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: especially of young kids, and there are probably a lot

450
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: of basic life lessons that you want to teach your

451
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: children from a young age, right, treat people with respect,

452
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: be nice to others, look people in the eye. Like

453
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: there are just some basic things that you learn as

454
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Speaker 1: a young child that you carry with you the rest

455
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: of your life. My dad used to hammer beerly, beerly, beerly,

456
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: be on time, beerly. It's honestly, it's like an addiction

457
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: to me, which is not the healthiest thing. Sometimes I

458
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: get I'm too early. Airports and just different stuff, but

459
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: they are just things about the way that you conduct

460
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: yourself that carries over professionally. You don't realize this when

461
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Speaker 1: you're seven, eight, five, ten, whatever the rest of your life.

462
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Speaker 1: The way to treat other people and conduct business that works,

463
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, from those are lessons that you learn as

464
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Speaker 1: a young guy. And Ben Johnson, either him or his

465
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: agent texted Washington as they were flying to Detroit. Now,

466
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: granted they were interviewing Aaron Glenn as well that he

467
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: was out, It's like, there is a way to conduct business.

468
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Speaker 1: I have no problem with him telling them after the interview, like, listen, guys,

469
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: this probably isn't a fit. I think I'm gonna stay here.

470
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Speaker 1: That's his progative. This is this is big boy business.

471
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: To text them as they're flying out, that's bad business.

472
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: That's kind of dumb, right, Because the other thing, now,

473
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: the perception of Ben Johnson around the league is when's

474
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Speaker 1: this guy gonna be ready? Does this guy have the

475
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Speaker 1: ability to be a head coach? I think it would

476
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Speaker 1: be if I was a GM or an owner next

477
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: go around. Are you comfortable with this? We've seen some

478
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: weird shit happen. I'll give you an example with Josh

479
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: McDaniels at the time when he backed out of the Colts.

480
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: He was like, that's fucking insane. The press conference was

481
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: the next day. They'd already hired coaches. Iba Flus was

482
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: already there. They were ready for him to be the job,

483
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: and he got cold feet whatever. Robert Kraft talks him out,

484
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: and as time went on, you're like, listen, it wasn't

485
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: the right fit. He got cold feet. The quarterback situation

486
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: was up in the air, not that crazy, even if

487
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: he didn't handle it well. And then it turns out

488
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: when the Raiders situation a year and a half after

489
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Speaker 1: he got ran out of town, you're like, that was

490
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Speaker 1: probably a pretty big red flag. Sometimes, you know, what's

491
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Speaker 1: the adage that kind of goes around when someone tells

492
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Speaker 1: you who they are. Listen, it happens a lot with

493
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Speaker 1: draft prospects, Like this guy's been in a lot of

494
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: trouble and it's like, we can fix him, and then

495
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: you get him and he stays in trouble. Now, if

496
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: you only went by that, you would never draft anyone

497
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: with red flags, and a lot of guys with red

498
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: flags turn their life around. Honey Badger was kicked off

499
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: the team in college. He's been the team captain for

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Speaker 1: three different teas teams he's been on. Honestly, it might

501
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: be four now, the Cardinals, the Texans, the Chiefs, and

502
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: now the Saints. Right, so you never know. With men, right,

503
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: we can mature. It's like a different human being. But

504
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: with Ben Johnson, now we've had two straight years of

505
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: just being a little weird. There is no disputing he's

506
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: an elite offensive coordinator. Elite been watching football for thirty

507
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: plus years. Watching his offense these last couple of years

508
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: has been a joy to watch. Watching that game plan

509
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: against the forty nine Ers. That fucking guy came in

510
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: ready to go to the Super Bowl. But being a

511
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: head coach is about more than being a coordinator, and

512
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: clearly there are some reservations deep down, like there were

513
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: no reservations with Mike Tomlin showed up to Pittsburgh in

514
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: his mid thirties to get the head coaching job. Kyle

515
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: Shanahan when he got the forty nine Ers job, had

516
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Speaker 1: been a coordinator for eight years. He was thirty seven

517
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: years old. Sean McVay showed up at thirty one years

518
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Speaker 1: old wanting to run the organization. There is this internal confidence, cockiness,

519
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: bravado whatever that some dudes have since they were in

520
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: their teens. Ben Johnson might like that, I'd be lying,

521
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: if you know, I, mister not insecure. We all can

522
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: have insecurities when you're the boss, though those have to

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00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: have some limitations, you know, in terms of creeping into

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Speaker 1: your mind. And this would be something if I was

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Speaker 1: a GM or I was an owner, I would be

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Speaker 1: very nervous when it came to doing business with Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, another story today, I want to read you

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Speaker 1: a quote from Diana Russini on a podcast he does

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Speaker 1: for The Athletic when asked about Mike Vrabel quote, I

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Speaker 1: don't think there was a fit for him. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he sat in front of any owner who thought

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Speaker 1: that his style was gonna work for what they were

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Speaker 1: looking for. I had a GM at the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: who mentioned to me that Vrabel's physical build, that he's

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Speaker 1: a very large human being, that he can be very

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Speaker 1: intimidating to people in an organization that are going to

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Speaker 1: be part of these decisions. And that is a factor,

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Speaker 1: essentially saying that Mike Rabel, being a big former player

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Speaker 1: and let's face it, a badass, is intimidating to owners

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Speaker 1: and gms. When I first got into radio. I was

541
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Speaker 1: around the Harbaugh forty nine ers, and Trent Balke is

542
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: not like a small guy, but compared to Jim Harbaugh

543
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: look like a JV human. And Jim Harbaugh is an

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Speaker 1: intimidating guy. Dan Campbell walks in the room, he's gonna

545
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: more than likely unless some NBA players are in there,

546
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is going to be the biggest guy in

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00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: the room when it comes to executives and other coaches.

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00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: If you are intimidating by a guy's physical build in

549
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: the sport of football, you're gonna have problems. The reason

550
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: football in the military get compared so often Obviously in

551
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the military it's life or death. Right. Not everyone comes home. Listen,

552
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I grew up around it. My dad's brother never made

553
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: it home from Vietnam. I saw the impact that can

554
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: have on a family. It's not good. It sucks. Wouldn't

555
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: wish it upon anybody. But there is a hierarchy, right,

556
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: and there is someone at the top of that hierarchy.

557
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: A lot like a home, right, if you have a

558
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: couple kids, the mom and dad are in charge. The

559
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: children are not in a football building that This is

560
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: not the NBA. The players are not in charge. The

561
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: assistant coaches are not in charge. The general manager does

562
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: not run the team. The head coach is at the

563
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: top of the food chain. It's why the Cowboys have

564
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: some issues. Mike McCarthy's resume is not bad. Won a

565
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, wins a lot. Everyone in that building, player

566
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: or assistant coach knows that Jerry Jones are the boss.

567
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: He's in charge. We all know it. Where if you

568
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: look around the league like Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay,

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00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Belichick forever, all the organizations that have had

570
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: a ton of success or coach a ton of success,

571
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll for a long time, they're in charge. They're

572
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: the boss. When they say something that John Harbaugh, Jim Harball,

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00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, if they want to draw a line in

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00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: the sand, they get to. If you're intimidated by Mike

575
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: vrabel size, I can't take you seriously. I mean, this

576
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: is the most violent game we have, not hockey. Not

577
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: a big hockey guy obviously a lot of respect. Those guys'

578
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: toughest shit play literally on ice. You know what I mean.

579
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: It's a violent sport where intimidation, leadership all that stuff

580
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: isn't part of the deal. It's essential. You can't function

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00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: without it. Now, Listen, I understand if I'm an owner

582
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: and I'm paying you, especially a guy like Vrabel's gonna

583
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: cost thirteen fourteen to fifteen million dollars, can you be nice?

584
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Like one of the knocks was a little BELICHICKI and

585
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: he wouldn't listen to anybody like that. That's an interpersonal dynamic.

586
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: And then there's that he's too intimidating. It's like, well,

587
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: does a guy know what he's doing? So what that

588
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: he's got the biggest swing, and you know what when

589
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: he walks in the door and he knows that if

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00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: a fight broke out, he could beat up everybody. Dan

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00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: Campbell knows that. Now one thing Dan clearly has that

592
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: I would say Mike is gonna have to work on.

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00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: From a perception standpoint, feels pretty easy to work with

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00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell like pretty good teammate. Now here's where I

595
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: would defend Vrabel And listen, I I don't know all

596
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: the dynamics of the John Robinson firing the ran Karth

597
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: and it feels like that was a lot of owner driven. Well,

598
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: if you hire a general manager that I don't know,

599
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: and we don't have any commonality in terms of never

600
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: worked together. Maybe philosophically we don't view football the same

601
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: from every angle, it might not work. I've said this

602
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: before and I will say this till the day to die.

603
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: If you don't respect the guy you work with, even

604
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: if you think individually he's okay at his job. But

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00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: I just don't respect. Like you're in that position telling

606
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: me what to do, you have no chance. You can't function. So,

607
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I get an owner being uncomfortable with Rabel,

608
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: his unwillingness to take ideas and just acknowledge like, yeah,

609
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: like I should. I'm I'll listen to you on this one,

610
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: which is something he's gonna have to work on. But

611
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: from a side standpoint that he scares you when he

612
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: walks in and sits at the table when you guys

613
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: are talking about free agency or a game plan. That's

614
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: a pretty big red flag in your organization. It really

615
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: is like, I want my coach to fucking be nuts,

616
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: and I got news for you. They all are. Some

617
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: of them smile more, Andy Pete, some of them are

618
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: more negative on a daily basis. Belichick Kyle coaches are

619
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: crazy They come in all shapes and sizes, but there

620
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: is a small percentage of any of them when it

621
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: comes to head coaches that know what they're doing and

622
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: that you have a chance to win. With the overwhelming

623
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: majority of coaches we've seen over the last thirty years

624
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL are gonna get running out of town

625
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: very very quickly. They have at most three or four years.

626
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: I watched dan Quinn. One thing clearly, dan Quinn has

627
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: going for him, and he's clearly got the crazy bug.

628
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: You can't be a good NFL coach. You can't be

629
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: a good football coach in general, high school, college pros

630
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: without being nuts something deep down that makes you just

631
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. You need it, It's essential. I've seen

632
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: it firsthand. If you do not have it, you have

633
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: no shot. But the push to have like this Kumbaya

634
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: moment seems a little crazy. This is not a Kumbaya sport.

635
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: The moment you start winning, everyone's happy, even Wink Martindale

636
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: said last year, we didn't like each other. I couldn't

637
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Speaker 1: stand working here, but we were sixty peten. You win,

638
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: everyone will figure out a way to move forward. And

639
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: that's the whole point. When you hire a coach. You're

640
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: hiring the guy to help your franchise win. So the

641
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: intimidation factor, to me, I would never want that to

642
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: get out if I was an owner or a GM

643
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: that I personally was insecure being around a coach who

644
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: was big. Some of these guys used to play in

645
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. Doug Peterson, big guy, Frank Wright, big guy,

646
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, big guy, Dan Campbell, big guy. The NFL

647
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: ain't full of tiny people. I don't know if you

648
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: ever get the chance, you know, to get to an

649
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: NFL practice or somehow get a sideline pass to get

650
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: pregame in the NFL, even in college, it's full of

651
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: massive human beings. So I would keep that very close

652
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: to the vest if I was one of those people

653
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: leaking to Diana Rossini that, yeah, we were just a

654
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: little intimidated by rabel size. He is big at cocktails

655
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: years ago. I wouldn't say with him, but I was

656
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: with Duce Staley and Vrabel was having a cocktail at

657
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: the bar in Indy. It's like, Goddamn, this fucking guy's huge.

658
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: But Doug Peterson was staying right next to him too.

659
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: They were same size. Some other coaching nuggets from around

660
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: the league. Jay Harbaugh, Jim Son looks like he's going

661
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: to Seattle with Mike McDonald. I love the hard family.

662
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Is just the connection that family has over football and

663
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: how they share people is truly pretty special. Greg Roman

664
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: who worked for Jim, then he worked for John. Now

665
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: he's back working for Jim again. You go on social media,

666
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: everyone thinks Greg Roman is the worst coach in the

667
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: history of the league. Last I checked, who's been the

668
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for a lot of teams are pretty good.

669
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: It's like, well is passing it, you see. You know,

670
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Lamar's dramatically better as a pastor now than he was

671
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. But like, let's not act

672
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: like he was coaching John Elway and Mahomes and Josh

673
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Allen in their primes, especially in San Francisco. So at

674
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: this notion that Greg Roman is the village idiot, Like,

675
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: give me a break. Now, is he Bill Walsh or

676
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: Andy Reid? No one's saying that, But if you go

677
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: on social media, you would think Jim Harbaugh has hired

678
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: the worst coach available. And Jay Harbaugh, who you know,

679
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: going Mike McDonald, who's a John Harbaugh guy. The Chargers

680
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: getting the general manager for the Ravens. They just share coaches,

681
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: they share GMS. I love it. This is my favorite

682
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: story I think from the last couple of days. Jedfish,

683
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: who's now the head coach of the University of Washington,

684
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: is hiring Steve Belichick to be his defensive coordinator, his

685
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. His name is Brennan Carroll, who is Pete

686
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: Carroll's son, so he has a Belichick is a defensive coordinator,

687
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: Carroll is his offensive coordinator. If you don't think that

688
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: during practice this fall, there are going spring practice, We're

689
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: gonna get some viral clips of Belichick and Pete Carroll

690
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: in udub gear at practice addressing the team get ready,

691
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: because that's pretty cool. You know, it really is. And

692
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: as someone who didn't do what their parents did, I

693
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: do think it's cool when the family business, the family

694
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: member has the same passion for what their dad did.

695
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: Now and coaching, we're seeing that all over the league now, Kubiak, Shanahan, Belichick,

696
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: and I think Steve Belichick this is a classic media

697
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: They just thought he was sucked. Yet Girodmeo, who was

698
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: just hired like went to the Matt said Steve is

699
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: not only a good coach, considers only his best friend. Now.

700
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know much about his coaching, but everyone you

701
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: know publicly talks about Steve like he's pretty good. I'm

702
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: fascinated to watch this one big ten Steve Belichick, sign

703
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: me up another defensive move that looks like it's likely

704
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: to happen. Now they're interviewing other guys. Ron Rivera, I

705
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: think interviewed today with the Cowboys, Mike Zimmer. I never

706
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: understood this with Obviously Mike's older and he's kind of

707
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: a curmudgeon. But Spielman, the GM, Rick who helped uh

708
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: the Washington commanders with their search. Like I watched those

709
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: Washington teams was Zimmer and Spielman, and my takeaway was

710
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: always like they're pretty good, Like this is a pretty

711
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: high level operation. I do think it's kind of crazy

712
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: that no one hired Rick Spielman to be the GM. Again.

713
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: I know it didn't end great, but when I watched

714
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: that operation for a long time, like he was drafting

715
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: a ton of good players at every position and their

716
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: team was good. You can't get another GM job. Does

717
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: he have like a record or something that we don't

718
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: know about like, what is going on? I get it

719
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: a little bit. With Zimmer, old edgy guy, kind of

720
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: hates quarterbacks. I don't understand it. With Rick Spielman, all

721
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: these gm like to me, he should be a general

722
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: manager in the NFL. But Mike Zimmer with Mike McCarthy

723
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I hope that happens because that would be fine.

724
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer is a good defensive coach. I mean, he

725
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: kind of knows what he's doing. If you had told me,

726
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: would you rather have Ron Rivera or Mike Zimmer as

727
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator? Are you even having this conversation? Is

728
00:41:51,480 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: this what a waste of breath? Mike Zimmer? Okay, here's

729
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: the drill. Middle Coff mailbag time, very very easy to

730
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: get involved. Here's what you do at John Middlecoff. At

731
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram dms wide open, fire on

732
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: it and get your question answered on the show. We

733
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: have a ton so I'm by Micha. I don't mean

734
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: to I'm not avoiding anybody. It's just difficult. Longtime listener

735
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: from Canada, absolutely love your inside got it. We've got

736
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: a lot of nice people in these dms. My question

737
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: is do you think that Canada will ever get an

738
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: NFL team. It seems like the other major sports have

739
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: a Canadian team, the NBA, the NHL, Major League Baseball. Also,

740
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: any tips to growing as a sports content creator. I remember,

741
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: was it several years ago when the Bills maybe it

742
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: was before they were sold to the Poligulas, the talk about,

743
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, going to Canada. It doesn't feel like it's

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00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen. So as of right now, I would say no,

745
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: but i'd be I'm not high on the list of

746
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: people that feel super dialed in when it comes to

747
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: playing in Canada. A team expansion in Canada, I would

748
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: say no. So I don't know what else to say. Beside,

749
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel likely. Feels like, you know, England, the

750
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of that region if they were to expand. But

751
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if expansion is really on the horizon. Again,

752
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: I might be the wrong person to ask on this.

753
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that feels part of the and

754
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: I love the business of the NFL. It doesn't feel

755
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: like expansion talks rocking and rolling. Now I'm recording this

756
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: before old Roge talk, So who knows. Maybe I'm out

757
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: of the loop. Maybe I'm naive. Maybe I'm ignorant, but

758
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to content creation, I think the best

759
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: thing you can do early is just be relentless. Every

760
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: day do stuff. And obviously if you work, you know,

761
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: a normal person job, do it in the morning, do

762
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: it at night. But I would be consistently peppering things

763
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: out there. Put it on YouTube, put it on your

764
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: podcast feed, put it on your Instagram. You just gotta

765
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: just keep throwing. You just got to keep throwing. Hey, John,

766
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: what's up? Fan of the pod was wondering if you

767
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: have any Hebrew in your ethnic background. Looks like you

768
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: may be German instead, though yeah, I think I'm no Hebrew.

769
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: We always thought German Swiss. My mom and brother are

770
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: more dialed in on that than me. I used to

771
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: always tell people I was Italian. I actually lied to

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00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: my girlfriend like a couple of years ago, because I

773
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: always kind of wanted to be Italian. Maybe I'm just

774
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: always been a sucker for the Mob movies, but yeah,

775
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a majority German to

776
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: go to Bot Mitzvah one time, bar Mitzva actually not

777
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Bob Mitzvah, and it was hard. I mean, I had

778
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot of respect. It was like I remember him

779
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: training my buddy of mine growing up, going to that

780
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: class to learn how to read for the ceremony in Hebrew.

781
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: It was impressive. Been listening for about eight months and

782
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: loved the pod. I'm a Saints fan and wanted to

783
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: ask what you would do if you were in charge

784
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: of the operation. I hated the car trade wasn't a trade,

785
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: but it was a free agent acquisition. But I hear

786
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: you and would have blown it up after Peyton left.

787
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to like Dennis Allen, especially knowing success is

788
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: not always instantaneous in the NFL, but his postgame comments

789
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: against the Falcons really rubbed me wrong, especially since there

790
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: are rivals. Wanted to gauge your thoughts. I think the

791
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: moment they signed Derek to a relatively i would say

792
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: lucrative deal, not crazy money, but not one of those like, oh,

793
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: just one year, twelve million. He's Derek made a lot

794
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: of money in his career. Is that you were kind

795
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: of just you hopped in the boat with Dennis Allen

796
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: and Derek Carr and they were getting two years if

797
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: it didn't completely implode, which it didn't last year. Now

798
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: they're hiring it looks like Kubiak Clint Kubiak, who is

799
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak's son, who's a Shanahan guy. Obviously the Kubiaks

800
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: of Shanahan's are all Mike Shanahan guys, because Kubiak played

801
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: for Mike way back in the day and then work

802
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: for him and they'll run the same thing. So maybe

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00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Derek and I always thought he would flourish in the

804
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: Shanahan offense. It's much more quarterback friendly than to ask

805
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Derek to kind of carry your team, which he has

806
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: tried to do at times with the Raiders in this

807
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: year and had not much success. Definitely played better towards

808
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: the end of the season, but I just I don't know.

809
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick you guys to make the playoffs

810
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: next year. Hard for me to have faith in your operation.

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Speaker 1: I think Dennis's comments at the end, I'm with you,

812
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: even if you were mad at Jamis, like you told

813
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: Jamis to victory formation neel it and he overrode you

814
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: in got the touchdown. I don't think it's something you

815
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: kissed the ass of a guy who's about to get fired,

816
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: a guy who's not gonna make it. The guy didn't

817
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: make it till midnight. Think about that. He didn't make

818
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: it till midnight, and you're like, oh, I'm so sorry.

819
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: This is professional football. It's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Jamis.

820
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have done that, even if you're mad at him,

821
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: cause I understand being mad at him. Behind closed doors,

822
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: it was like, fuck you, Arthur Smith. Shut up, pack

823
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: up your stuff and go to Pittsburgh. Buddy, I'm with you.

824
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: That was one of the most embarrassing moments of the NFL.

825
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: It really was the sage You're like, we didn't mean

826
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: to do that. We told Jamis, like, shut this is

827
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: what are we talking about. This isn't high school football.

828
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: And I've gotten people like, well they were in victory formation.

829
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: It's unfair. Give me a break. Everyone's cashing big ass

830
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: checks when there's time left on the clock. I don't

831
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: care what the score is. You better have your chin

832
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: strap buckled. This this is There are no life lessons

833
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: being taught that. This is a big money, billion dollar

834
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: business where you either win or you lose. And I

835
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: have zero and I mean zero empathy sympathy for any

836
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: of the falcons like bitchin and moment. I also thought

837
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: that Dennis Allen did not need to say a pete publicly.

838
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: To handle that with jamis, do not tell the other

839
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: team you apologize. There's no such thing as running up

840
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: the score in professional sports. It does not exist. This

841
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: is entertainment. The Saint we go to pee wee football,

842
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: JV football, and high school football for life lessons. Power

843
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: five now ain't about life lessons as much anymore. Transactional business.

844
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: I pay you, you play well, or I cut you

845
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: or you transfer. Yeah. I can't ever look at Dennisallen

846
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: in the same now. I wasn't a big believer before.

847
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: Somehow I convinced myself that they were going to win

848
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: the division. I picked them and then regretted that pretty

849
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: early in the season. Really enjoy the listen. If brock

850
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Purty and the forty nine Ers lose this Super Bowl,

851
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: is there any way perty will ever overcome the last

852
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: pick in the draft? This guy only wins because of

853
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: the talent around him. Narrative. I don't think it matters

854
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: what happens. I think Perdy could have an incredible game,

855
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: throw four or five touchdowns, win the Super Bowl, MVP

856
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: and the Niners win the fort Super Bowl in twenty

857
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: five years. I think they could win and he plays shitty.

858
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: I think they could lose and he played well, or

859
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: they can lose and he plays shitty, and the conversation

860
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: he is gonna be one of the most polarizing quarterbacks

861
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: next year. No matter what. It will not slow down.

862
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: It will accelerate if he plays bad and they lose.

863
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: I think it will not accelerate as fast, but still

864
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: be a major conversation if he plays not well or

865
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: average and they win. I even think if he plays

866
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: well and they win and he wins the Super Bowl MVP,

867
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: people will not wrap their arms around him and embrace them.

868
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: I also think we have to put it in context,

869
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: like would anyone in the NFL take Brock Purdy over

870
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: like the elite guys? No, so what are we arguing?

871
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: I think we've lost touch with the argument here. He

872
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: was the last pick in the draft who just threw

873
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: thirty plus touchdowns and has been a starter now for

874
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: a year and a half on one of the best

875
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: teams in football. It's an incredible story. It's like, well, Patrick,

876
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: he's not Patrick Mahomes, He's not Josh Allen, he is

877
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: not Lamar Jackson. He doesn't have those guys' physical talents.

878
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: He is not as physically gifted, just like this. Now,

879
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing him to Drew Brees. He's got a

880
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: long way to maintain that. Drew Brees was never Aaron

881
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: Rodgers or Peyton Manning. That was not the case. He

882
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: was a short pocket quarterback who you know, was incredibly accurate,

883
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: average athlete as the years went on, better athlete when

884
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: he was younger. But like anyone, and I've gotten arguments

885
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: with people like comparing him to Aaron Rodgers, like, no,

886
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: he's not. He couldn't hold Aaron Rodgers, jock. There's not

887
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: one general manager in the NFL when they were both

888
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: twenty eight years old that would have taken Drew Brees.

889
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: And that includes John Payton over Aaron Rodgers obviously, Peyton Manning,

890
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in a different universe. So it's like, what

891
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: are we comparing? Doesn't mean Drew Brees like top twenty

892
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: quarterback maybe of all time. So I just think sometimes

893
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: we argue to argue like brock perty is the last

894
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, and he fucking laughed every quarterback

895
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: in that draft. Now, Trevor, he was better than Trevor Lawrence.

896
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: This year. But like that's the only quarterback, Like that

897
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: was the year before. All those guys that win the

898
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: top fifteen. Mac Jones, who Kyle Shanahan loved, couldn't dream

899
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: of being as good as Brock Perty Trey Lance, he

900
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: couldn't beat him out in practice fields, can't throw from

901
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: the pocket. Zach Wilson. I mean his name is Zach Wilson.

902
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look at all these quarterbacks. It's it's crazy

903
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: that this guy. If Trey lanps or Zach Wilson was

904
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: doing what Brock Purdy was doing. And this is just

905
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: shows you the power of a draft pick, you'd be like,

906
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: holy shit, they found what a pick. They nailed it.

907
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, this guy can't be this good

908
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: little Rock Purty with that little peace shooter arm h fake,

909
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: no chance. Like I told Colin, I would have had.

910
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: I knew right away, and I was going to these

911
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: practices a lot when it was clear I don't know,

912
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: they liked the guy. They loved telling you, great guy. Yeah,

913
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: we get it. This is not good guy, bad guy.

914
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Can you play or not? That's all we're talking this

915
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: professional football, not professional Be a good guy, right, And

916
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: I just remember, like I don't know if I don't

917
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: think these star players and the Niners reviving with the

918
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: old Trey lamps. But I don't think they think he's

919
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: any good. I don't think they think he's any good.

920
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: And then he shattered his leg against the Seattle Seahawks.

921
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo came in and they basically carried off the

922
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: off the field. I knew right away, like, yeah, they

923
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: think he fucking stinks. Now. I don't think even they

924
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: knew that brock Purty was that good. But I remember

925
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: then Brock started really running the scout team and Fred

926
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: Warner was like, this guy was making plays against us,

927
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: and Fred really bought in and then he began starting.

928
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: And you never know until a guy plays, and it

929
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: was clear right away the little guy could play. Now,

930
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: is he gonna go? You know what? When I'm comparing

931
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: Drew Brees Aaron Rodgers, I mean we're talking about Hall

932
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: of famers, Like, is brock Purty gonna have a ten

933
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: year career of playing at a high level. I wouldn't

934
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: bet my four to win k on it. I wouldn't

935
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: bet fifty thousand dollars on it. But is it possible? Right?

936
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: Is he had one of the craziest, most incredible starts

937
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: to a career for a late round pick we've ever seen. Yes,

938
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: not debatable. Now, he doesn't have the physical attribute like

939
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: Russell was a better athlete and he had a stronger arm.

940
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: But people forget after year two. I think Russell won

941
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in a second year. Like Russell was

942
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: not viewed as some top ten quarterback. You talk about

943
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: game manager, it just comes with the territory. We're gonna

944
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: call you a game manager when you get drafted in

945
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: the mid to late rounds on a good team because,

946
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: like we just judge all these guys that get drafted high,

947
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: it's way harder for them. I guess I don't know.

948
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: Situations matter. Question for the mailbag, Love the Pod. Take

949
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: the eighteen Alabama championship team loaded with the offense Tua,

950
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, Judy Waddell, DeVante, defensive players such as Quinn Williams,

951
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: Rashaun Evans, McKinney, certain Trayvon Diggs. People tend to act

952
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: like players. Ent aerre a Captain American upgrade machine once

953
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: they ended the league. But there's a reason rookies are

954
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: drafted to replace pros. What do you think of the

955
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: matchup between a historically good college team like eighteen Alabama

956
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: verse nineteen LSU and the Panthers would look like this.

957
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: I've always you know, the media hates this, like how

958
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: could you ever this is pros verse fucking amateurs. It's like, yeah,

959
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: I've been watching the pro game long enough. Like if

960
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: you're just a bad pro team, like who's like Washington

961
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: this year, Like the Washington football team, Commanders, Redskins, whatever

962
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: the hell they're gonna be called. They're beaten every college team,

963
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: like especially before they trade Chase Young sweat like that

964
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: they would they would shove you around. And then there

965
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: are times when you're like watching the Sam Hinky sixers

966
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: or you're watching you know, Carolina's got some high end talent,

967
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: but there have been some hideous NFL teams and you're like, yeah,

968
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: they're starting a lot of practice squad guys. So when

969
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: you look at the LSU or nineteen team, you know,

970
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Bama team, when you could combine them, you're like, they

971
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: have let's just say, let's just pick a number sixteen

972
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: of their twenty two starters aren't just like in the pros,

973
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: like legit starting impact players and all those guys would

974
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: start for the Panthers, and I'm just using them as

975
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: an example. So I think we could find times in

976
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: history to make the argument that, like, I don't know, man,

977
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: like last year the Bears, for example, like that Bears

978
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: team is better, like they're gonna beat some teams. But

979
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: I think I hear you. I think we just it's

980
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: an argument that people like no chance. It's like, well,

981
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: you know in basketball, for example, well Sam Hanky was

982
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 1: rolling out guys that wouldn't make the team for half

983
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: the people in the NBA, and then you're like, Kentucky

984
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: has five guys that are gonna get drafted in the

985
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: top thirty and two of them are all Stars or

986
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: duke or whatever. I always hate that argument that like, yeah,

987
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: we can entertain it, who would you take? Also like

988
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: Saban in company against those village idiots at coaches. Problem

989
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: is you will never see it. But I liked it.

990
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: I like where you ended up going with that question,

991
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: big Fan. With the prospect of getting Caleb Williams, could

992
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: we see Bill of the Bears or even Mike Vrabel

993
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: to the Bears after the draft? Now, I think the moment,

994
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: I think you're just seeing this coach at least coach

995
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: till mid season, depending if it, you know, falls off

996
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: the rails, which I keep getting back to, seems crazy,

997
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: It really does. You had the opportunity to reset your franchise,

998
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: even if you I understand not wanting Belichick seventy two

999
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: cost twenty million dollars a year. He's you know, it

1000
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: can be kind of edgy, not big on listening to people.

1001
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: But like getting Mike Rabel, who I'm pretty sure Mike

1002
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: Vrabel is like under fifty who could have been packaged

1003
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: who was available at the time. With Arthur Smith, you

1004
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about Arthur Smith, you know, if

1005
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: he makes your quarterback a star getting hired in the

1006
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: next couple of years. It was so ugly in Atlanta.

1007
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: How would you not want to do that. I'll tell

1008
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: you how they don't want to do that. The organization

1009
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: is cheap. They have a mom and pop shop. I've

1010
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: known coaches, I've known scouts that work there. It's a

1011
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: mom and pop operation. Any organization worth their salt would

1012
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: have at minimum fired the coach. Now I understand, you

1013
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: got Kevin Warren, who's got the classic like I want

1014
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: to do the stadium but I also want credit for football.

1015
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: You got Ryan Poles, who might be good, you know,

1016
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: kind of in no man's land. I know he tries

1017
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: to be buddies with eber Flus as a general manager.

1018
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: You're only as good as your head coach. Like Brett Veach,

1019
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: John Lynch, Lesh Snead, John Schneider for years, maybe the

1020
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: first to tell you like having a high end head

1021
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: coach makes you look a lot better. I don't care

1022
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: how good you are as a personnel guy. If your

1023
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: coach sucks, you're gonna suck. So Ryan Poles, you might

1024
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: be the next Bill Polly. I think that you are

1025
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: so limited with that guy as your head coach. I

1026
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: click on your videos every morning am I driving work.

1027
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: Which AFC young quarterback do you see breaking through and

1028
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: getting a ring first and really start rivaling the Chiefs

1029
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: like Peyton did and Big Ben Steelers did. Seems like

1030
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: all these great young AFC quarterbacks will get a shot

1031
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs. We've seen them all. We've seen Josh

1032
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: Allen lose every big game. We've seen Lamar just got pumped.

1033
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: So I would choose Josh Allen because we've seen him,

1034
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: we saw Lamar. I mean he was overwhelmed like that

1035
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: was that was an embarrassing moment for the franchise like that,

1036
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: That's one where you don't I don't look at the

1037
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: Ravens quite the same. I'm sorry, like, I'm betting against

1038
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: you in the big game next time. That's just I

1039
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: and I kicking myself. My mother called me unloyal to

1040
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: Andy for betting against him. It was It's not even

1041
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm this huge Lamar believer, but it's like, God, their

1042
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: teams so stacked the Chiefs on the road like this,

1043
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: that Bill's team was so decimated. I just thought the

1044
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Ravens would win like twenty four to seventeen or something.

1045
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: It's like, no, they got fucking worked. So I'm not

1046
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: picking them. They just lost their star defensive coordinator. I'm

1047
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna stick with the Bills. But they got a lot

1048
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: of question marks. I mean, they got cap issues, they

1049
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: got older players. You know, trade Diggs, who listen, we

1050
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: can nitpick him all you want. He's by far their

1051
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: best receiver. So Josh allen to me, I don't even

1052
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: think it's arguable is the second best quarterback in the league,

1053
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: and I think there's a gap and Lamar's got a

1054
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: second MVP. If I had to beat Patrick Mahomes and

1055
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: my teams were all the same, I am taking Josh

1056
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: Allen seven days a week and fifteen times on Sunday

1057
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: over every quarterback in the NFL not named Patrick Mahomes.

1058
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: And if I, if I have to play against Patrick Mahomes,

1059
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: how can we even argue it? At this point? Like

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01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: whenever I see the after the Bills lost and I

1061
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: saw everyone shitting on Josh Allen, It's like, are we

1062
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: watching the same fucking sport? What are we talking about?

1063
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: Did you guys not just watch him go toe to toe? Well,

1064
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: he missed the pass in the second half, but yeah

1065
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: he made He's not a perfect player, he's not I

1066
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: don't know Patrick Mahomes, but he's better than every other

1067
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: guy who's making two hundred and fifty million dollars. Who'd

1068
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: you want right out? Jalen, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

1069
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Justin Herbert. What are we even talking about?

1070
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: He's been the only guy really beside Brady that you

1071
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: look into. God, he's going toe to toe with Patrick.

1072
01:01:54,400 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: All these other guys wilt look like shit. I to me,

1073
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: it's got to be the Bills because they the they

1074
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: got the one player who is physically better than Patrick. Now,

1075
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: Patrick's a better player, but like unfhased by the cold,

1076
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: unfazed by the moment, has played well in Arrowhead. Now

1077
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I Burrow beat him too. He's people TOINETI fans like,

1078
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: what about Joe Burrow. It's like, well, stop missing the season.

1079
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: I won't forget about you. You're like out of side,

1080
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: out of mind. But Joe Burrow is a guy I

1081
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: forgot about. I would throw hit him and I would understand.

1082
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: People are pissed off right now if they're a Bengal

1083
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: fan because I say that I forget about him. But

1084
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: it's like, he just gets injured. So my fault. I

1085
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: call it Burrows big time player, beat Mahomes. But you

1086
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: gotta be healthy, right. I watched him a vis rate

1087
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, then he gets hurt the next week.

1088
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm a Falcons fan and I'm curious to hear what

1089
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: your thoughts are regarding the NFL Draft. Should the Falcons

1090
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: trade up and draft Caleb Williams trade for Fields. I'm

1091
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: not a big trade for fields guy, Like I'm gonna

1092
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: trade for Justin Fields and give you, let's say, a

1093
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: third round pick and get a guy on the fourth

1094
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: year of his contract. You have to pick up his

1095
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: fifth year option and get a guy that I don't know,

1096
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: can function from within the pocket, incredible athlete, can make

1097
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: some awesome highlight plays. Can I win football games with?

1098
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: This guy's my starting quarterback at a high level now

1099
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: relative to your situation, he's better than any quarterback you have.

1100
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: So it's a upgrade. But like what am I doing

1101
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: when I trade an asset for him, I'm making him

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01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: my quarterback for a year and then probably looking to

1103
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: upgrade again, cause you're not gonna give this guy one

1104
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars contract. And who knows, maybe he shocks

1105
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: everybody and he starts dealing from within the pocket. But

1106
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: contracts factor in man, they really do. So I think,

1107
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: who's your coach, Rahne Morris? He just brought Zach Robinson,

1108
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: who's a McVeigh guy. I think that you know, Shanahan

1109
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: was not a big fan of Justin Field's. I don't

1110
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: really know if he's as fit in the offense. Longtime listener,

1111
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: I know you said you don't watch the NBA. Few

1112
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: people do anymore, But I think the quality of the

1113
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: product is really good. Every team just seems to have

1114
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: a superstar player. Parody has arguably never been better. What

1115
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: does the NBA need to do to gain the audience

1116
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: it had with Michael Jordan? I couldn't disagree more. I

1117
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: think there've never been more physically gifted guys, like just

1118
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: the pure talent of the athletes, of their skill level.

1119
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: But I think the league has never been worse. When

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01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: I was a kid, teams were good. This is not

1121
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: tennis or golf. This is a team sport. How many

1122
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: teams in the NBA are good Celtics and the Nuggets.

1123
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: It's it's become a mercenary league. So having all these

1124
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: guys jump all over the NonStop like is great, I

1125
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: guess for Twitter account, but for the consumer like, there's

1126
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: no cohesion with any teams. There's no like when I

1127
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: was a kid, like Gary Payton, Sean Kemp, Patrick Ewing,

1128
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen. Right, you just go around the league.

1129
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller with the Indiana Pacers. Every team had a

1130
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: guy that you knew was gonna be there for a

1131
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: long period of time. That does not exist anymore. Steph Curry,

1132
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: Draymond and Clay are complete outliers. You know, this league

1133
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: is full of Kevin Durantz and Chris Paul's and Russell

1134
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: the Guy's just bouncing everywhere, which again they're prerogative to do.

1135
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: But the business is broken and the teams as a

1136
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: whole have never been worse. It is awful basketball. Now.

1137
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: When you get like Curry and Lebron going at it

1138
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: on a Saturday night, that's entertaining. But the constant you

1139
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: look up and guys are scoring fifty to seventy points,

1140
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: that's an indictment. How shitty the teams are. So whenever

1141
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: I hear the Pom pom waving and listen, you're not

1142
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming you of the media that covers the NBA.

1143
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: The league has never been better. Bullshit like these teams.

1144
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: There's a team sport. This is not an individual sport.

1145
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: To have two or three teams max that can win

1146
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: the NBA championship because they're the only teams that have

1147
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: been playing together for a while and all these other

1148
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: teams are just kind of a mishmash. You can't get

1149
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: good at a team sport if you don't play with

1150
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: each other. For a long period of time, and I

1151
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: think that's a huge problem for the NBA, which is

1152
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: not gonna get fixed anytime soon because these guys are

1153
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna keep moving. And yeah, I don't really know what

1154
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: else to say, which I can't disagree anymore with people

1155
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: that say the league has never been better, and it's

1156
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: really entertaining. I listen. I like, I don't need seventy

1157
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: five to seventy eight scoring games, but when I see

1158
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: constantly guys scoring sixty to seventy points, that's an indictment

1159
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: on the NBA and indictment on the teams that are awful.

1160
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: And I think the teams honestly have just tough. The

1161
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: depth of average teams has never been is long. Right now,

1162
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: how would you rate the following scenarios for the Super

1163
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: Bowl in terms of likelihood? Chiefs win in a low

1164
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: scoring game, Chiefs blowout forty nine, Ers, win in a shootout. Thanks,

1165
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: it's a good question. Let's start with a Chiefs win

1166
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: in a low scoring game. It's kind of what they've

1167
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: done all season long, one games nineteen to thirteen, twenty

1168
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: three to seventeen. They're very, very comfortable winning that way.

1169
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: When you look at the forty nine ers game log.

1170
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: They blew a lot of people out. They are most

1171
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: comfortable having success winning like forty to seventeen, forty to

1172
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: twenty forty to you know, thirty eight to seventeen, thirty

1173
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: eight to fifteen. They won a lot of game, they

1174
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: destroyed people, and in the middle of the season when

1175
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: they got into tight games, they didn't know how to

1176
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: win them. Now, these two playoff games, they were behind

1177
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: and they usually lose those games, and they found a

1178
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: way to win them. So it's is this the new

1179
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: version of this this comeback kid forty nine ers, or

1180
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: are they going to put them in a dome controlled

1181
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,799
Speaker 1: environment and look a lot better now. The Chiefs defense

1182
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: is one of the better ones in the NFL. I

1183
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: think if the Niners win, they're winning by ten plus.

1184
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: And if the Chiefs win, it's just one of their

1185
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: classic ugly games and parties just off. I think if

1186
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 1: the Niners win, they win pretty comfortably because that's how

1187
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: they've mainly won all season long. I think if the

1188
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs win, they've won like they've won a lot of games.

1189
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: It'll look like the Bills game. It'll even look like

1190
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens game, like I'm just acting like they can

1191
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: killed the Ravens. I mean, the Ravens only scored ten points,

1192
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: but it was seventeen to ten. That was a final score.

1193
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: And a lot of times you watch this game, like

1194
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: how the Chiefs worked them, Well, you can be getting worked.

1195
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: There's a big difference between getting worked in down three

1196
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: scores like the forty nine ers were in the second half,

1197
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: You're like, God, you start doing the math and getting

1198
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: worked and it's like, it's only seventeen to seven and

1199
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: we got the ball. So the Chiefs, if their offense

1200
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: is not scoring a lot of points, which they haven't

1201
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: really all season, you're kind of still in the game. Now.

1202
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: Defense is good. Spagnola against Kyle, I mean, that's a

1203
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: pretty incredible matchup. One of the best defensive coordinators, one

1204
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: of the more aggressive defensive coordinators, second year quarterback whose

1205
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: Spags was talking up Spags like stuck up for Perty.

1206
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: Now it's a hard balance, like are they doing it?

1207
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: Because it is just what you do as a football coach.

1208
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: You kind of, you know, put the guy on a

1209
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: pedestal or they legitimately think he's just stun I haven't

1210
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: really asked, but they think he's pretty good. I mean,

1211
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: how could you not would love to hear your answer

1212
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: on the pod. Would it make sense for San Francisco

1213
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: to package their first round pick with Jennings to Carolina

1214
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: for Brian Burns. Is that too much to give up?

1215
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: Or does that make sense for both teams? Carolina gets

1216
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: a first round pick and a wide receiver for Bryce

1217
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: Young and San Francisco gets the player to pair opposite

1218
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: with Boso Well. I like Juwan Jennings a lot, but

1219
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: he's a role player. So if you're in Carolina seat,

1220
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: you're not trading me a number one or number two

1221
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: receiver like Juwan Jennings. Solid guy, but he's a number

1222
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: three wide receiver. So it's really like I can sign

1223
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: number three wide receivers like I don't need to make

1224
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,839
Speaker 1: a trade. I think you look at the number one pick.

1225
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers have some needs and they have

1226
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: an expensive team. So if I'm the forty nine ers,

1227
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 1: I try to draft either a corner, a pass rusher,

1228
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: or an offensive lineman. I would bet a lot of

1229
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: money did they take an offensive lineman or a defensive

1230
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: lineman with their first round pick. The other thing that

1231
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers haven't had first round picks for a

1232
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: couple of years because of Trey Lance, so there's spend

1233
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: a lot of money on Bosa. They gotta eventually find

1234
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: a replacement for Trent. They're gonna pay Brandon I Yuke.

1235
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: I just think the forty nine ers think that first

1236
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: round pick. Like in Madden, that move makes a lot

1237
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: of sense. But I don't think I never understood why

1238
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: Carolina didn't keep DJ Moore in trade Brian Burns. I

1239
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: think they probably regret that one. How about them Chiefs?

1240
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: Two things real quick. I live in Gilbert and when

1241
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: the Suns added that Kings game after the nd season tourney,

1242
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: I use your coat on game time and got lower

1243
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: level tickets for sixty bucks. Congrats, thank you. I'm an

1244
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: Arizona native and diehard Chiefs fans. Is ninety three because

1245
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: of Joe, that'd be Montana. And this run is absolutely incredible.

1246
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could ever bet against fifteen.

1247
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: And I truly think Andy Reid is the greatest coach

1248
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: of all time. Again, love the content. This is a comment.

1249
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy that you get and run out of

1250
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: town strong like it had just run its course? But

1251
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: the two best coaches of the last twenty five years.

1252
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: We're both fired by other organizations. Belichick was fired by

1253
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. The Eagles fired Andy Reid for Chip Kelly,

1254
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: which understandable at the time, but let's face it, like

1255
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: say that out loud. In twenty twenty four, Chip Kelly

1256
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: was just begging for an NFL offensive coordinator job, begging

1257
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: no one would hire him. Andy Reid is easily, i mean,

1258
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: based on resume, the second best coach of his generation

1259
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: and has a chance if he wins this, Like, well,

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Speaker 1: could he have a five year run to I don't

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: want to say catch Bill because Bill's got six, but

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: he'd already be halfway there if he wins on Sunday.

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: So it's an incredible time. There's nothing better than being

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: a fan of a team and knowing like it doesn't

1265
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: get any better in this it doesn't happen very often,

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: and then when it's over, you just wish it would

1267
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: come back. I'm a Charger fan, so I'm very excited

1268
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: about this Harbaugh Chargers history. However, given the Chargers history,

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01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 1: I am worried this could be an Urban Meyer situation

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: where a high profile college coach goes to the NFL

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01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: with big expectations and fails miserably. You see any similarities

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: in the situation. Is it completely different? I think it's

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: completely different. When Urban Meyer was hired in Jacksonville, he

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: had never spent one day in the National Football League

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01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: as a player or as a coach. He had only

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: coached in college football. Jim Harbaugh played fifteen years as

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01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: a player, coached four as a coach, with a lot

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: of success, and whose brother, which I would say is

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: pretty clear, John and Jack Harball, his father, are like

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01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: his best friends in life, people he relies on most

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01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: personally and professionally. It's weird because their family is all

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01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: their family business, It's all intertwined. Jim Harbaugh knows the

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01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: NFL very well. He's basically been running an NFL program

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: since leaving the forty nine ers. And then he brings

1285
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: over a general manager who he knows through his brother,

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and Trent Balke like, give me a b

1287
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: that was never gonna work. But Urban like did not

1288
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: know the pros, never coached, had never had a team. Now,

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01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: he I'm sure cheated his ass off at Florida and

1290
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State, but back then you're talking brown bags of

1291
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars. You get to the pros.

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01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: Even if you have a bad team like Jacksonville, you

1293
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: still got guys making five to fifteen million dollars. So

1294
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 1: you start screaming at a guy making twelve million dollars

1295
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: when I don't think you know what you're doing, and

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01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: especially if you've like signed me in free agency from

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01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: the Steelers or the Rams, or like I've been around

1298
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,919
Speaker 1: a good coach, I can't take you seriously. Jim Harbaugh

1299
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: has immediate NFL credibility. He's been to a super Bowl

1300
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: as a head coach. He's also like the Verabel element

1301
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: of like, I've played in the NFL, I've been hurt,

1302
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: I've been cut, Like I can relate to guys on

1303
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: the team, and then my brothers like, I don't think

1304
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: there's any similarities beside they both have a whistle around

1305
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: their neck. I actually don't think there could be any

1306
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: farther a gap between the differences of the two guys,

1307
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: which is ironic because they both were kind of rivals

1308
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: right when he Ohio State Michigan and they hate to

1309
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: each other. But I could now Urban Meyer better college

1310
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: coach right over his tenure than Jim, even though Jim

1311
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: finally won that champion. Not Urban to me is one

1312
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: of the best college coaches I've ever seen, But Jim's

1313
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: one of the rare, unique guys in college football who

1314
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: can do it both. Steve Spurrier got to the NFL

1315
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: failed right, Barry Switzer laughed out of town eventually. The

1316
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson's and Pete Carroll's are rare, and I put

1317
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 1: Jim in that category. As a Jets fan, I don't

1318
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: understand the hate NFL fans and the media has for

1319
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: our team. We're somehow ranked seventh in most hated fan

1320
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: bases in the NFL when a fourteen year playoff drought

1321
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: in counting. I don't get it. I don't even know.

1322
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I know where you're coming from, but I

1323
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: how do we even rank that. We have shown for

1324
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: two seasons that our defense could win a seven games

1325
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: with a basically non existence, non existent offense. Surely, with

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 1: Rogers coming back and seeing the success he has with Hackett,

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: I think at least we can make the playoffs even

1328
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: with our turnstyle of an offensive line. I'm not saying

1329
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: we're Super Bowl contender, but I think the AFC is

1330
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: actually much weaker than we thought. In barring the Chiefs,

1331
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: I think we can play with anybody. Ah, I'm gonna

1332
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: have to push back on that one. I've defended Rogers

1333
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: over the years when a lot of people kind of

1334
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: nitpick him. I think he's one of the best players

1335
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. You know, I'd have him in the

1336
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: mix to be a top five quarterback of all time,

1337
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: right Brady montana Elway manning him, I'd put him above Marino.

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm putting Rogers above Steve Young just speaking of the

1339
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: last like thirty forty years. It's hard for me to

1340
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: do the NamUs and the that kind of crew. But

1341
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: you're getting a forty year old Aaron Rodgers off an

1342
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: Achilles injury, who his last full year playing looked a

1343
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: little off. So I don't know, man, I was someone

1344
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: who was a huge believer. You get Aaron Rodgers on

1345
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: my I think the Jets are going to win eleven

1346
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: twelve games, compete with the Bills for the division. I

1347
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: think I picked him because I wanted to do something different.

1348
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: But I thought the Jets healthy Rogers be a ten

1349
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: to eleven win team. I don't know, cause even if

1350
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't tear his achilles. I think he gets injured.

1351
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: He can't move like he once did. Your offensive line

1352
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: is not good. You know what your biggest issue though,

1353
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: is does your coordinator have any clue what he's doing?

1354
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: Any clue what he's doing? That article about the Jets

1355
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: in the Athletic watching your team, he might just stink. Man.

1356
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: Now you can go well him and Rogers. I don't know.

1357
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: Rogers played his best football win those MVPs when he

1358
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of gave into the floor and met him in

1359
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: the middle and running that offense. Clearly the Ford knows

1360
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing as a play color does Nathaniel Hackett,

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01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: Because I would say is sitting here is right now?

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01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: Is no? Now? I'm with you. The AFC, like the

1363
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: Browns are gonna be way worse the Seawan contract. It

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01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: might take Harbaugh a year like it wouldn't shock me

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01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 1: if they're more eight or nine wins than they are

1366
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: eleven twelve. The Ravens lost their defensive coordinator Burrow health issues,

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01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: T Higgins. You know the Bills have a lot of

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: roster question marks. The Dolphins are they gonna pay two

1369
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: up their defense? Their defensive coordinator. What the hell's going

1370
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: on there? So I'm with you. You know, beside the Chiefs,

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01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: there are a lot of question marks in the Denver

1372
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: has no quarterback? What division am I missing? I mean,

1373
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: Jacksonville a ton of questions there. Tennessee stinks. Uh who

1374
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: made the playoff? Houston? I mean that they're They're an

1375
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: intriguing team, but they're probably a couple of years away

1376
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: from you would say, being like a complete team. So yeah,

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01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean I but Houston might be like third or

1378
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: fourth best team in AFC next year. It's definitely plausible.

1379
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: It is. I just got personnel questions and coaching questions,

1380
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: and when when they're all on the same side of

1381
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: the ball, that's a problem. And Aaron's forty years old,

1382
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: like most people are, not Tom Brady. I watched Peyton

1383
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: Manning in that Super Bowl. Actually I watched him twice

1384
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: live his last year. I love Peyton Manning as a player.

1385
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: It was kind of sad, it really was. I mean,

1386
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: Drew Brees could barely throw the ball. Roethlisberger went from

1387
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 1: throwing ninety five miles an hour to eighty. It usually

1388
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: ends bad for guys thirty eight to forty one it's

1389
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: usually not. Some Swans like Tom Brady, was still throwing

1390
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: the ball well when he retired. He just didn't really

1391
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: want to get hit anymore. Don't blame him, but it

1392
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 1: wasn't his arms. He listen, Rogers. Arm is not gonna

1393
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: be the problem. But what made him a special player

1394
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: was movement athleticism. I think those days are over. Man,

1395
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:01,879
Speaker 1: the volume