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Speaker 3: three minutes here to get to a lot of topics.
Speaker 3: Mister Mangold, thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 1: Do you like the new set?
Speaker 4: I've missed my comfy chair? You do? I will say
Speaker 4: that now?
Speaker 1: Okay, Bart, how you feeling today?
Speaker 2: I feel good. Y'all gave me a nice little day
Speaker 2: to put up.
Speaker 4: You got a box. I haven't got a box.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why your lumbar is burning. You know, athletes
Speaker 2: don't know how to sit up straight like popera poster
Speaker 2: for us. It's painful.
Speaker 1: All right, let's set the landscape.
Speaker 3: Jets two and four, Steelers four and two Sunday Night
Speaker 3: ballgame in primetime in Pittsburgh. How critical is it for
Speaker 3: the Green and White to get back to the winning
Speaker 3: side of things after losing three straight.
Speaker 5: Very critical, and I'm a little concerned. I think history
Speaker 5: tells us that the Jets have not done well in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 5: Like we've only won there once. I want to say,
Speaker 5: I don't know the full stats on that, but it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a tough, tough place to play, but it
Speaker 5: is a critical game for us this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of those l's came to a Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame quarterback that they don't. I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson may be borderline, but he's not the player
Speaker 2: that he was in Seattle, So I don't I don't
Speaker 2: worry about that. This is opponent that, you know, man
Speaker 2: for man, the Jets are better than they have to
Speaker 2: go away and perform like that, and they can't mess
Speaker 2: around because listen, Mike Thomlin has made a career of
Speaker 2: Mike Thomlin his way to wins. Right. We remember a
Speaker 2: couple years ago they were eleven and no and then no,
Speaker 2: they didn't even make the playoffs. So we know that
Speaker 2: this team won't beat itself. They're gonna play hard. They're
Speaker 2: gonna give a lot of effort, especially in that environment
Speaker 2: and that stadium. I've spent a lot of time in
Speaker 2: that stadium as a player myself. You can't you know,
Speaker 2: you can be overwhelmed by sometimes the energy in there.
Speaker 2: If you allow them to feed off that energy, they'll
Speaker 2: consume you.
Speaker 3: All right, What do you make in the trade, Jets
Speaker 3: acquiring DeVante Adams from the Raiders for a conditional twenty
Speaker 3: five third round pick, And how much impact can he
Speaker 3: have immediately?
Speaker 5: I think as long as he's healthy, which I think
Speaker 5: they'll test out this week and I got cleared by
Speaker 5: the doctors and everything, he did have a huge impact
Speaker 5: to begin with, because now you know your coverage has
Speaker 5: been focused strictly on Garrett Wilson, who has been opening
Speaker 5: up recently and getting even though he's had the coverage
Speaker 5: role to him, been able to make plays.
Speaker 4: Now you have a one to two punch, who do
Speaker 4: you double cover? How do you do that?
Speaker 5: And if you do, then if you double cover both
Speaker 5: of them, now all of a sudden, the run games there.
Speaker 5: So I think you have an impact on this offense
Speaker 5: very quickly.
Speaker 3: Jet said, fifteen plays to ten plus yards against the
Speaker 3: Bills eight of twenty plus. Like Nick was mentioning, you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred yard rusher with brest fall, you two one
Speaker 3: hundred yard receivers and Garrett Wilson and Allen as are
Speaker 3: now here comes Adams. The one thing that stands out
Speaker 3: probably why the Jets ended up losing that ball game.
Speaker 1: To the Buffalo Bills. Yes, they're a pair of miss kicks,
Speaker 1: but ultimately you were one to four in the red zone.
Speaker 3: How much does Adams change what you're doing, especially down there?
Speaker 2: It gives you another threat, right, you know traditionally just
Speaker 2: me washing Aaron Rodgers as a fan over the years.
Speaker 2: You know, one thing that was really apparent that these
Speaker 2: have always a slip screen, you know where simply a
Speaker 2: guy like Alan Zar, who's a big body, can be
Speaker 2: on the point of the ball and you have the
Speaker 2: motion short motions for Devonte Adams, he can just come
Speaker 2: under his illegal but illegal pick play and he's strong
Speaker 2: enough to muscle his way in and if they decide
Speaker 2: to jump that, he can pivot back out. So you
Speaker 2: talk about the nun verb communication should allow the Jets
Speaker 2: to be more efficient in the red zone, which was
Speaker 2: a difference in a ballgame.
Speaker 1: What about the landscape here?
Speaker 3: Six games in guy has had a ton of success.
Speaker 1: With Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Seems like Garrett Wilson is starting to take off before
Speaker 3: our eyes right now. He already has that relationship going
Speaker 3: with Alan Zar. I was just gonna free everything up
Speaker 3: for other dudes on that offense.
Speaker 5: That Adams comes there, Well, we're talking about, you know,
Speaker 5: talking about the red zone, and I think that's a
Speaker 5: big key where you get somebody like Devonte Adams, who
Speaker 5: Aaron has called, i think his favorite receiver, and they
Speaker 5: have that connection and everything when you're talking about the
Speaker 5: red zone, everything is condensed and everything happens so much faster,
Speaker 5: and things happen so much quicker.
Speaker 4: That to have a guy who is.
Speaker 5: On the same page automatically with the quarterback without having
Speaker 5: to need to do the reps in training camp, to
Speaker 5: need to do the reps in the spring, where they
Speaker 5: have a connection, a non verbal connection, to know they
Speaker 5: see that the the defense the same way and can
Speaker 5: make adjustments.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be huge for the Redsiden offense.
Speaker 3: How much confidence does this give Rogers? I mean, he's
Speaker 3: the confidence dude no matter who he's playing. With but
Speaker 3: just having a guy in there who he's been through
Speaker 3: so many wars with and they know with the nonverbal communications,
Speaker 3: they know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: I mean, confidence is one thing, but I think the
Speaker 2: word we're looking for is comfortability. Right, somebody that he
Speaker 2: doesn't have to teach why he needs you on the
Speaker 2: red line, or why he needs you at this depth,
Speaker 2: or why you know when you see that you have
Speaker 2: to turn around and look for the ball at this
Speaker 2: measure because he's already done that. So now that gives
Speaker 2: him two. So that allows the other guys to get
Speaker 2: caught up to speed, but not you know, for us
Speaker 2: to you know, suffer through the learning process, because sometimes
Speaker 2: that can be difficult. You know. No different than when
Speaker 2: I came over here, you know, and rec system was
Speaker 2: put in. I was accustomed just to Hellodi or Trevor
Speaker 2: or Suggs knowing you know, where they are supposed to be.
Speaker 2: But so I understood their game speed and I knew
Speaker 2: what it looked like. So when something happened, I didn't
Speaker 2: have to communicate with them. I could react to what
Speaker 2: they were doing because I can tell what their body
Speaker 2: language was. So now with Aaron, you talk about those
Speaker 2: pivotal moments until everybody gets caught up to speed. And
Speaker 2: this only comes with reps. You know, he can lean
Speaker 2: on the two guys that have had the most reps
Speaker 2: and a guy that's gonna catch the football. The issue
Speaker 2: with Alan Lazard is the fact that he does understand
Speaker 2: how to speak fluent airing, but he doesn't always be
Speaker 2: the most reliable pass catcher. You talk about a couple
Speaker 2: of games ago, you know, ten attempts only four receptions.
Speaker 2: You need more efficiency. And you know, even with Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 2: you know, twenty two targets thirteen receptions. That means that
Speaker 2: it's you know, nine drops or nine none receptions. So
Speaker 2: I think with Alan and Lazard, Adams and Mike Williams
Speaker 2: and it gets healthy. Who knows they were Corley and
Speaker 2: Conkling Breeze. It just gives you guys that can make
Speaker 2: those one or two big plays when and the guy
Speaker 2: to have its they take away everybody else.
Speaker 5: Can we just suddenly pick up those name drops we
Speaker 5: had there had a load.
Speaker 1: Ye and pretty good player.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you're.
Speaker 4: Dropping all pro name drops right there.
Speaker 2: Well, but well, you know, like when how how comfortable
Speaker 2: it was? The chemistry that you had with Alan Fanica
Speaker 2: and how you have with Brandon Moore. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean. You you you had that comfortability with them,
Speaker 2: and then I forgot when Floss, when Slawson came in,
Speaker 2: it was a bit of alert.
Speaker 4: All right, just take the joke dropping all pro names down.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, yeah, I was fortunate, my job
Speaker 2: easier exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had success both places. You had success at
Speaker 3: one place.
Speaker 4: I can only stay one place.
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Speaker 3: State product. How much can he benefit? It's from Adam's
Speaker 3: arrival because I know he's the number one target here
Speaker 3: before DeVante comes. But Davante has had so much success
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers over the years, and you know there's
Speaker 3: a feeling out process, especially for a young player. But
Speaker 3: Garrett was starting to send even without DeVante.
Speaker 1: Adams in the building.
Speaker 3: Like Bart was talking about a couple of games ago
Speaker 3: in London where he's targeted twenty two times hit thirteen catches.
Speaker 3: Last week he goes over one hundred yards, So that's
Speaker 3: consecutive weeks where he's combined for twenty catches now, right.
Speaker 5: And I think this is almost an opportunity to take
Speaker 5: the work that Aaron and Garrett have done together, and
Speaker 5: Aaron as the teacher and Garrett as a student, and
Speaker 5: now the student of Garrett can talk to another student
Speaker 5: who's already gone through the class and can kind of
Speaker 5: put a rubber stamp on the information he's gotten, and
Speaker 5: so he can see he gets the information from Aaron
Speaker 5: and has to process himself and understand and they work
Speaker 5: through that. Now he can kind of pure check that
Speaker 5: and be like, all right, you know obviously, I know
Speaker 5: as Garrett is looking at Davante, he knows that Davante
Speaker 5: has been termed, you know, Aaron's favorite receiver. Hey, he's
Speaker 5: telling me, I need to be here at this, or
Speaker 5: I need to see this, or I need to see that.
Speaker 4: Is this really like, what's the important part of this information?
Speaker 5: And are there other nuances that I don't even know
Speaker 5: that you've been through? So I think that's a huge
Speaker 5: help for him, and I think Garrett should take the opportunity.
Speaker 5: I think he will because he is a fine buck
Speaker 5: guy and understanding the learning process that he needs to
Speaker 5: utilize not only what he has in Aaron and getting
Speaker 5: the information, but then pure checking that with Davante and saying, hey,
Speaker 5: you've done this for many years and many catches and
Speaker 5: many touchdowns? Is this the way that you're seeing it,
Speaker 5: by the way that it's being told from Aaron? Am
Speaker 5: I seeing it the same way? And fact checking that?
Speaker 5: And I think that's a huge opportunity.
Speaker 3: For can you put safety help over top of both
Speaker 3: of those guys and then if you choose to ultimately
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with Briest Hall and Brailn Allen.
Speaker 2: Now, it depends on who your personnel is. Like, some
Speaker 2: people can do that because they have a stud at
Speaker 2: cornerback or two good cornerbacks as well. Not all teams
Speaker 2: can do that, but you know, most teams probably would
Speaker 2: decide to play some form of a zone right to
Speaker 2: make sure that they keep everything in front and then
Speaker 2: see if Aaron Rodgers has the patience we saw that
Speaker 2: happened with Patrick Mahomes. They just play those two high
Speaker 2: safeties and say you're gonna dink and dunk us to
Speaker 2: death and hope that behind the sticks or one of
Speaker 2: your linemen has a false start and say, Heky, we're
Speaker 2: not gonna give it with the big play. We're gonna
Speaker 2: make you go eleven play drive and let's see if
Speaker 2: you can be disciplined, which is something that the Jets
Speaker 2: have struggled with. So, you know, it's always counter to everything.
Speaker 2: You have advantage, you have a disadvantage. You have to
Speaker 2: understand what our style of play is. You have to
Speaker 2: dictate your style of play to the opponent. So I mean,
Speaker 2: I think the answer for that would be maybe too
Speaker 2: high safeties or some type of form or cover three,
Speaker 2: because it leaves you vulnerable in the run game because
Speaker 2: you go to two high safeties and I mean you're
Speaker 2: lighting the box and to just have to make teams
Speaker 2: play against it. But it gives you options to be
Speaker 2: able to have scheme diversity.
Speaker 3: Presul had legitimate ground games against the Bills. That was
Speaker 3: his best game of twenty twenty four season. He's got
Speaker 3: to be delighted about Adams entering the building as well.
Speaker 5: No, definitely, I mean I think that all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: now you're worried about the past game and everything that
Speaker 5: the two headed monster of Dvante and Garret Wilson bring
Speaker 5: to you. And now as you're looking at it for
Speaker 5: a running back, like all right, well, now we can
Speaker 5: get a hat for a hat and you can make
Speaker 5: that little crease and I can take advantage of it.
Speaker 5: So I think he's got to be looking at chops
Speaker 5: at the opportunity.
Speaker 3: You guys played for a long time, more than a
Speaker 3: decade in the National Football League. Each of you, guys,
Speaker 3: how much does all the changes around to your impact?
Speaker 1: What's going on in the room.
Speaker 3: You have an interim high coach, you have a new
Speaker 3: person calling signals, and Tom Todd. You just played your
Speaker 3: first game with those two and now in their new positions,
Speaker 3: and now you're bringing a star into your offense seven
Speaker 3: games in the season.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've experienced that the first year. I think
Speaker 2: we coach Lock, We fired coach Lock, we fired Mark
Speaker 2: Carrier during the season, traded for Braylen Edwards. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's part of course, you know I've experienced it wasn't
Speaker 2: the head coach, but you know, you have more You
Speaker 2: spend more time with the coordinators and your position coaching,
Speaker 2: you do the head coach, so you know, the schedule
Speaker 2: I think is probably not going to deviate. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be the same schedule that guys were used to, So
Speaker 2: they just have to get used to. You know, maybe
Speaker 2: the emphasism from an offensive standpoint on defense nothing changes,
Speaker 2: So I mean, athletes are used to change, and we
Speaker 2: deal with change pretty fast. Whether it's one of your
Speaker 2: best players going down, you have to adjust. The next
Speaker 2: man got to step up, or you lose a coach
Speaker 2: from afar.
Speaker 1: Oh, do you think they responded Bricks first game in
Speaker 1: his new role and then downing as well.
Speaker 3: We talk about the all offensive games unfortunately unable to
Speaker 3: finish there and Jets think Aaron Rodgers gets on McAfee
Speaker 3: this week and said, hey, I think we can get
Speaker 3: on a run.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think as a player, you always have
Speaker 5: that confidence that you can go on a run at
Speaker 5: any point. You know, I would have liked to see
Speaker 5: in a little bit more of a cleaner game.
Speaker 4: This past week. You know, too many penalties.
Speaker 5: I think that a lot of the penalties were ticky
Speaker 5: tacky where the rest just wanted to be on TV.
Speaker 4: Anyways, But you know, you want to clean it up,
Speaker 4: and you know, hopefully.
Speaker 5: Now everyone kind of settles in, like, all right, we
Speaker 5: got our first one out of the way, here's how
Speaker 5: the operation works, and this is what we're going forward.
Speaker 5: So now you have a better understanding. And I think
Speaker 5: that was kind of what you want to see out
Speaker 5: of the first game. And does that transit into the
Speaker 5: second game?
Speaker 3: Mangold said, the s wanted to be part of the game.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you make of the way the.
Speaker 3: Jets games have been called the last two because they
Speaker 3: go back to London as well? Because the Vikings had
Speaker 3: eleven penalties called against them and the Buffalo Bills had
Speaker 3: eleven penalties called on them as well, those are penalties accepted.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's the responsibility of the players. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, you have to be able to understand how
Speaker 2: the game is being called, right, and sometimes when you
Speaker 2: when you want to get that extra a hole for
Speaker 2: that extra second or something like that, you have to
Speaker 2: understand the game's been called tight. Sometimes you just gotta
Speaker 2: let players make plays because you know, if I look
Speaker 2: at the one that was called on Tyrun, you weren't
Speaker 2: stopping Braylan Allen anyway, Like it was already over, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But you know, guys are drawing files.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that the Josh Allen he flopped
Speaker 2: once once Kenlo had him, he jumped back and physically
Speaker 2: jumped back, and it looked worse. And you know, guys
Speaker 2: are calling players from the back and they're coaching like
Speaker 2: the result not actually the action, you know, and you
Speaker 2: can't challenge that stuff. So listen, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, if it's her you twice, I don't care
Speaker 2: how it was being called or if the refs are
Speaker 2: you know, have it out for you. You got it.
Speaker 2: You gotta do better because it's not going to change.
Speaker 3: The gold adage is that if reps wanted to, they
Speaker 3: could call holding on every play.
Speaker 2: True or not.
Speaker 5: As a person who never held ever once, they probably could.
Speaker 5: But like that just it depends on how ticket tacking,
Speaker 5: like Bart is saying, like, you know, once you get
Speaker 5: through a quarter of a game, you know how the
Speaker 5: rest are going to be, and so that at that
Speaker 5: point you know what you can get away with what
Speaker 5: you can't get away with, and you need to be smart.
Speaker 5: You know, some reps are gonna let you w W
Speaker 5: E and just get after it and some reps are
Speaker 5: gonna call it tight, and so you need to have
Speaker 5: a good feeling of that.
Speaker 4: You know, we used to get a rep report before
Speaker 4: every game.
Speaker 1: Would that be on Friday or.
Speaker 2: Really early it was just get an install.
Speaker 5: D West used to do that and he would give
Speaker 5: us the crew that we had what they flew through,
Speaker 5: flags on percentages and everything, so.
Speaker 4: You knew all this.
Speaker 5: This crew is high on, you know, offensive pass interference,
Speaker 5: so our guys need to be focused on all right,
Speaker 5: our offensive guys keeping your hands off or you know,
Speaker 5: they're high on defense or they're high on holding, So
Speaker 5: you knew going into it kind of what they were
Speaker 5: looking for. And then you'd get a feel by the
Speaker 5: first quarter. And so fourth quarter penalties for the Tiki
Speaker 5: tech ones are a little inexcuse me, because at that
Speaker 5: point you know what they're doing and if it's that
Speaker 5: extra little tug that you know you can't get away with,
Speaker 5: you know that's.
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Speaker 3: Taking a Wednesday. I think it's Wednesday. I get messed
Speaker 3: up with the days. It's just Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: The week before that, we're coming back from London. So
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of things happening around here.
Speaker 3: Chuck Clark, you're gonna be out for a wild safety position.
Speaker 3: DJ Reid's dealing with a groin wan to see about
Speaker 3: his status. What's the counter now is the Jets, like
Speaker 3: every team is dealing with or dealing with injuries in
Speaker 3: the defensive backfield.
Speaker 2: Well you you you lean on your stars of who
Speaker 2: they're supposed to be. So dj Read's hurt. So if
Speaker 2: they got a stub receiver, they got pickings they Okay, Now,
Speaker 2: Sauce you out to travel. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2: Before it didn't matter left or right, whoever comes comes
Speaker 2: because we had confidence in both our corners. But this
Speaker 2: is what you make your name for. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, okay, you know when when it was
Speaker 2: me Bart, this guy had they had a good running back.
Speaker 2: We need you Downhill, we need you, We need you
Speaker 2: to come down here, and we need to set the
Speaker 2: tone on his run. Every every every week is gonna
Speaker 2: be on somebody else, right, and sometimes it's on you.
Speaker 2: And that's what you that's your opportunity to prove to
Speaker 2: your teammates that that you are valid, that you know,
Speaker 2: all the things that they've heard and the things that
Speaker 2: you said about yourself can be authenticated.
Speaker 1: You played along.
Speaker 3: Some legendary offensive lots, really good offensive lots. When you
Speaker 3: got an opponent like TJ. Watt, who's got one hundred
Speaker 3: and one career sex.
Speaker 1: He got four and a half sex this year. He's
Speaker 1: a game wrecker.
Speaker 4: Is Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1: What's the prop like in that offensive line?
Speaker 4: Medium? Uh?
Speaker 5: You know, I think a strong part is on the tackles,
Speaker 5: you know, as they're studying, they're getting ready for him,
Speaker 5: and also in the coordinator make sure there's a game
Speaker 5: plan if he does start to cause problems. You know,
Speaker 5: can you chip? Can you put a tight end there
Speaker 5: to distract him a little bit.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think the the idea.
Speaker 5: Is you got to go in, Yes he is a
Speaker 5: fantastic player, and yes he has done amazing things, but
Speaker 5: he's still just a human, like he's not super human.
Speaker 5: And you know, you go out there with the sound
Speaker 5: technique and you really put in the effort during the
Speaker 5: week to study and understand what he's coming at you
Speaker 5: with and use the technique that you're based on.
Speaker 4: You know, you can put up a good fight to it.
Speaker 5: So I think it's it's not overblowing the situation where
Speaker 5: you know, you go out there timid, which I think
Speaker 5: a lot of guys run into there. This is you
Speaker 5: know a Manda myth, the legend. You go out there
Speaker 5: and take him on as an equal, and you'd be
Speaker 5: surprised how much better those guys do.
Speaker 2: And Morgan Moses has experience with them, like they've had
Speaker 2: great days, you know, running the ball against him, and
Speaker 2: that was part of Morgan Moses doing his business and
Speaker 2: that was his main assignment, you know. So I always say,
Speaker 2: when you have a great player, don't run away from him,
Speaker 2: run at him right and get those body blows. And
Speaker 2: then you give guys some one on one's latent games.
Speaker 2: But you got to you gotta try and take some
Speaker 2: of it out of them and don't let the let
Speaker 2: him wreck the game.
Speaker 3: Early Russell Wilson's getting first team reps a practice this week,
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin said that again when we're taping it's Wednesday,
Speaker 3: we don't know who's going to be the starter, could
Speaker 3: be Wilson, could be Fields. How does that impact what
Speaker 3: the Jets are going to do defensively?
Speaker 1: Whoever back there doesn't?
Speaker 2: I mean for me, if you elite defense, I don't
Speaker 2: who's back there? Right? Okay, one guy can run, one
Speaker 2: guy can throw. Neither one of them can do both.
Speaker 2: So when the guy comes in that can run, then
Speaker 2: you have to change and adjust that. Hey, maybe he'll scramble.
Speaker 2: Maybe I have to be more disciplined and not giving
Speaker 2: up the edges. When a guy that can throw in there,
Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, he's a shorter guy's get our hands up.
Speaker 2: Let's not let's let's let's know that we can maybe
Speaker 2: get away with some things because he's not going to run,
Speaker 2: especially coming off a calf injury. He's not going to
Speaker 2: explode suddenly and put that put that calf at risk,
Speaker 2: So I can play him a certain a different way.
Speaker 3: Fields four, too, is a starter five rushing touchdowns. Again,
Speaker 3: different dynamic than Russell Wills.
Speaker 4: Soon what.
Speaker 1: Do you make a decision that Tom one has on
Speaker 1: his hands?
Speaker 4: Right, Tom, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's a tough one, and I think that was kind
Speaker 5: of what they needed to figure out in August and
Speaker 5: not week six, So I'm surprised that they're still going
Speaker 5: with it. I feel like at four and two, you
Speaker 5: ride your hot hand, you know, unless you think he's
Speaker 5: just he's holding your team back and not giving you
Speaker 5: the best opportunity. But you also don't know what you
Speaker 5: have in Russ, you know, coming off an injury. So
Speaker 5: you know, if you throw him out there for two
Speaker 5: series and it's worse than before, then you look like
Speaker 5: an idiot. So I think getting the reps now is
Speaker 5: kind of just them, you know, testing and seeing all right,
Speaker 5: is this better than what we have? And so I
Speaker 5: don't think it's going to be a two quarterback situation
Speaker 5: in the game. I think right now they're in a
Speaker 5: testing phase for their offense to figure out, you know,
Speaker 5: which quarterback gives us the best option, and I think
Speaker 5: they'll go.
Speaker 4: With that quarterback for the game. I don't think it's
Speaker 4: going to be a two quarterback system.
Speaker 1: Let's look at both sides of the coin.
Speaker 3: Can I get late early because this is only the
Speaker 3: seventh game for the Jets two and.
Speaker 2: Four, you know already late early? Yeah, if you're trying
Speaker 2: to go to playoffs, damn sure. Trying to win win
Speaker 2: a division, you can't have six seven losses that I
Speaker 2: think that disqualifies you from winning a division, especially when
Speaker 2: the opponent in front of you only has only has two,
Speaker 2: so you have to figure it out two or three.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many of the Bills have, I
Speaker 2: don't remember. But you can't afford it, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: this division is too deep and you have to make
Speaker 2: sure that you're able to stack wins. That's why when
Speaker 2: it's games where you're supposed to be the you know,
Speaker 2: the favorite, you gotta win those games and split with
Speaker 2: the good teams.
Speaker 3: Can you feel a little bit snake bitten considering what's
Speaker 3: happened O late?
Speaker 1: You lose one point games of Broncos, you.
Speaker 3: Go over and play in London and you're right there
Speaker 3: at the doorstep at the end interception. Then you have
Speaker 3: opportunities to take control of that game against the Bills,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately you come on, you come out on the
Speaker 3: losing under that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think if if they don't write the
Speaker 5: ship now, it's gonna be we're gonna look back in
Speaker 5: January and say, well, we could have would have should have?
Speaker 5: You know, had this game, had that game, you know,
Speaker 5: and that's gonna be disappointing. So hopefully there's this strong
Speaker 5: instance this week in practice of writing that ship and
Speaker 5: fixing the ills and getting on the winning track, because
Speaker 5: right now, you know, you talk like, oh, we lost
Speaker 5: to Denver by one, and you know we had a
Speaker 5: tight one in London and then Bills, we had them,
Speaker 5: but we didn't take advantage of it. Like you'll look
Speaker 5: back in January when you're sitting out missing the playoffs,
Speaker 5: and like, we should have had that in Buffalo. We
Speaker 5: should have beat Denver and like that we would be
Speaker 5: right there, and then you have that season regrets, which
Speaker 5: is not good.
Speaker 1: We got to get you guys out of here.
Speaker 3: But thoughts on Pittsburgh when you think about a Jets
Speaker 3: road game, there for a lot of fans who are
Speaker 3: my age, maybe a little bit older, maybe a little
Speaker 3: bit younger. I think back to the twenty ten AFC
Speaker 3: Championship game. You played in Baltimore as well, so I
Speaker 3: used to see them twice a year. What's your media
Speaker 3: thought about Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the brand, right, I think their own brand.
Speaker 2: They want to run the football and they want to
Speaker 2: be physical at the point of attack on both sides
Speaker 2: of the ball. Now, do they have the personnel to
Speaker 2: be what they were or the teams that that we face.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so, because you know, they
Speaker 2: had a Hall of Fame quarterback. In my opinion, they
Speaker 2: don't have that, So you have to take advantage of that.
Speaker 2: You know, this is more like the Cordell Stewart days
Speaker 2: where they had a decent quarterback that can win some games,
Speaker 2: but was heavily flawed. So you have to take advantage
Speaker 2: of what he can't do. And when you have opportunities
Speaker 2: to put a team like this the way you have to,
Speaker 2: you have to be able to bring your lunch bell
Speaker 2: because they're not gonna quit. They're not gonna give up.
Speaker 2: That's not in their DNA. They don't draft players like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The only thing that they
Speaker 2: respect is physicality.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree that the whole heartedly.
Speaker 5: Like they don't have Ben back there anymore, and so
Speaker 5: when you have the opportunity to put them where you
Speaker 5: need to because you can. And I think they're very
Speaker 5: stingy defense, but I think our defense it's just as stingy,
Speaker 5: and we'll do great against this offense. So our offense
Speaker 5: needs to step up and you know, score the points
Speaker 5: that we need to. And you know, I think if
Speaker 5: we get going early and get started early, the crowd
Speaker 5: is going to be in it for the long haul.
Speaker 5: But at least you know you'll have the point it's
Speaker 5: and you can really let this defense pin the ears
Speaker 5: back and get after whoever's back there.
Speaker 4: And so I think that's gonna be a big key
Speaker 4: for us.
Speaker 1: Run A Gade nightmares, No, no nightmare for me.
Speaker 2: I was a boogieman.
Speaker 4: Yep, he was the boogeyman. Uh No, not really.
Speaker 5: It stunk for the a C Championship, but I think
Speaker 5: that season we beat him there in the regular season,
Speaker 5: so you know, they brought the song out and we
Speaker 5: still molly wopped him. And then unfortunately we didn't finish strong,
Speaker 5: or we didn't start strong on the AFC Championship game,
Speaker 5: but you know we were coming coming on strong, So
Speaker 5: I got no problems with that song.
Speaker 2: Thanks, false appreciate you.