Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys
Speaker 1: on your war room for insider news and draft analysis
Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rant,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand and Joe and now
Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,
Speaker 1: we get to come back at you one more time
Speaker 1: and welcome everybody to the Trap Show. Brian brought us
Speaker 1: along with Dan Brugler from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com, David Hellman, Brian from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: First off, Chillman, I didn't get a chance to thank
Speaker 1: both of you together. Dane you were gone and uh
Speaker 1: are you were I was gone, you were gone, and
Speaker 1: Dames here. But thank you for all the weekend work.
Speaker 1: Thank you think that was fun. That was fifteen hours
Speaker 1: of coverage on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This might be
Speaker 1: ed Ka Hill's idea, but it has become your baby,
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, I think you're largely responsibi for
Speaker 1: what it has become. I'm really happy that you know
Speaker 1: that that Guys like Matt O'Neill and and uh and
Speaker 1: then Derek Eagleton and those guys. Let us do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and I appreciate the fans. I mean, your
Speaker 1: your efforts and your initiative. Get them on. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun, a lot of fun. Fans go think
Speaker 1: Derek and and those guys. Exactly, let us do this
Speaker 1: and exactly. I think the thing I was the most
Speaker 1: proud of was we got to mister irrelevant and you
Speaker 1: fired a you fired a full scouting report at them.
Speaker 1: It picked two player, and the first thing you said
Speaker 1: was this guy doesn't deserve to be mister irellan. He
Speaker 1: will be anything but exact promise you. I just I
Speaker 1: hate that tradition just by the way. That's it's rude,
Speaker 1: it's really you know, but they get something out of
Speaker 1: it though. It's like a book. Yeah, and it's seriously
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's it's a big deal, a
Speaker 1: big parade telling them that they're irrelevant. Oh, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of a it's you know that you know how
Speaker 1: football players are too, Like every guy that gets drafted
Speaker 1: is hardwired to think that you know, these guys team Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but it's but it's okay, and
Speaker 1: it's funny that this normally that pick they know what
Speaker 1: team is going to be because they can't trade that pick.
Speaker 1: But this year there were no seventh round comps. No comps,
Speaker 1: so I was traded and they had a Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: jersey for a Tennessee Titans pick. And uh, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a little disconjointed there, but I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: was I'll tell you what's neat. Though I don't like
Speaker 1: the seventh round compensatory picks, I like the way it went.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you could have you could
Speaker 1: have fired a pick next year's pick at one of
Speaker 1: those teams at the bottom and tried to get back
Speaker 1: in that thing. I mean, maybe there's somebody you don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with, you know, on free agency and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, but anyway, but uh, that's that
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. And I thank you guys
Speaker 1: h for all your hard work on that. And again
Speaker 1: I thank everybody out there who followed along with us. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a little bit. We talked
Speaker 1: about what the Cowboys did, but I want to kind
Speaker 1: of go around and talk about maybe what some other
Speaker 1: teams did too, sure, you know, and I also want
Speaker 1: to at the end of this UM, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I want to take some calls
Speaker 1: today eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I want to get some of you know, if you're
Speaker 1: a fan of another team, if you're a fan of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, if you want to fire a question at us.
Speaker 1: We've got Twitter, which Dave handled all all all the
Speaker 1: draft shows we've done. We got that opportunity. I do
Speaker 1: want to take some calls because I want to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts and to finish this thing. Dane has already
Speaker 1: done his twenty seventeen mock draft, which is going to
Speaker 1: be up. Is it up right now on CBS anyway? Okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll give you a little preview of Dane's two
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen mock draft and uh and and go
Speaker 1: through that. But I want to go through and just
Speaker 1: kind of talk about maybe some of the draft that
Speaker 1: you really really liked, you know, if you hey might
Speaker 1: have been the Cowboys, if you want to talk about
Speaker 1: what they did or some of the thoughts, you know,
Speaker 1: Peter King on Monday Morning Quarterback gave it's a really
Speaker 1: behind the curtain. Yeah, we got to get into that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to get in a little behind the curtain
Speaker 1: scene on that. But you know, since I brought it up,
Speaker 1: well let's talk about it a little bit. Though. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about what you know that maybe the thought process
Speaker 1: was with the Cowboys right there. Jerry had told us
Speaker 1: that they were trying very hard to uh to work
Speaker 1: their way back into that round, uh to uh to
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. You also talked about the pick about Zeke,
Speaker 1: you know, over over Ramsey and what direction, which is
Speaker 1: surprising to me that if both those picks were gone,
Speaker 1: you know who they would have taken right there. So
Speaker 1: it's to me it's really fascinating. With the packs the
Speaker 1: lynch angle, yeah, you know, and I think this is
Speaker 1: something we'll be looking back at for years to come,
Speaker 1: because if we believe everything in that article, boys were
Speaker 1: ready to give up a second and a fourth to
Speaker 1: go get packs the lynch, but they were not ready
Speaker 1: to give up a second and a third, right, And
Speaker 1: so basically what's that what that's is saying is that
Speaker 1: they were not willing to lose MALIEK. Collins. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they were ready to give up Ogba or Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: in the second round and plus a Dak Prescott to
Speaker 1: go get packs the Lynch, but they were not ready
Speaker 1: to give up Aga or Jalen Smith plus MALIEK. Collins,
Speaker 1: And that's very interesting to me. And not to put
Speaker 1: that pressure on Collins, right, but he was the player
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys were not ready to give up to
Speaker 1: go up and get that quarterback. So that's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: And then also mentioning in there about Leonard Floyd, how
Speaker 1: that was the player they really liked. And then if
Speaker 1: they moved back two spots and Ramsey and Elliott were
Speaker 1: both wiped out, that maybe that would have been the
Speaker 1: next best option. But I wonder if you're gonna I
Speaker 1: know where you're going here, if Bosa does not go three, yeah,
Speaker 1: say Buckner, say one of the tackles goes three, right,
Speaker 1: and there's one more option for the Cowboys if maybe
Speaker 1: they make that deal because instead of only having two
Speaker 1: options with Zeke and Ramsey right three at Bosa to
Speaker 1: the mix, maybe they're more likely to take that chance
Speaker 1: moved back and at worst case they have Bosa. So
Speaker 1: very interesting, and this is why the drafts fascinating. It
Speaker 1: the ripple effect from every single pick, it really shapes
Speaker 1: how the franchisees, you know, draft and so really interesting.
Speaker 1: We talked about San Diego though, being the team that
Speaker 1: maybe the draft. We thought initially we talked about every
Speaker 1: possibility but them draft. Yeah, even even going up and
Speaker 1: trying to trade. We traded for the wrong guy, and
Speaker 1: we took calls on Connor Cook. But you know, we
Speaker 1: we we were thinking that. You know what surprises me though,
Speaker 1: is to the love for Paxston Lynch, because this is
Speaker 1: this is what happened to me during this draft. On
Speaker 1: Paxston Lynch. You know, he was my top quarterback. I
Speaker 1: felt overall, right, felt like there was love there on
Speaker 1: my top fifty. I heard on the Cowboys board he
Speaker 1: was number twelve, right, yeah, so it makes sense to
Speaker 1: go back up and then and try and get that.
Speaker 1: But what what was what was interesting about it though,
Speaker 1: is to me, uh, you know, I'd heard that there
Speaker 1: was love, and then as we got closer to the
Speaker 1: draft and and this is this is on me because
Speaker 1: I felt like that, you know, maybe got some bad
Speaker 1: information and sold it a little soft, you know, could
Speaker 1: you do you when you trust guys and you know
Speaker 1: you're thinking, man, this guy's not gonna steer me the
Speaker 1: wrong way, you know, but then you get you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of go soft on it, then you find
Speaker 1: out whoa in fact that they're going. I mean, that
Speaker 1: just showed you a little bit, even this guy is
Speaker 1: as a dear friend of mine. It was it was
Speaker 1: one of those things where maybe we were getting a
Speaker 1: little close on what we were talking about on the
Speaker 1: draft shows and stuff like that, of hey, they're gonna
Speaker 1: go out and get a quarterback, this is the one
Speaker 1: they really like. And I think also well, and they
Speaker 1: did not execute the trade, which I have a point
Speaker 1: to make about that too. I'm sorry I stopped you there,
Speaker 1: no no not ness. I mean, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't even know if you could call a bad information,
Speaker 1: but I mean they tried to trade for Connor Cook too.
Speaker 1: They wound up with Dak Prescott. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: what we said all along, is that they they did
Speaker 1: their homework on a lot of guys. They had a
Speaker 1: variety of game plans. They liked Paxiston Lynch enough to
Speaker 1: consider it. They obviously didn't like him enough to pull
Speaker 1: the trigger on it. So I think that's worth pointing out.
Speaker 1: And that kind of raised is a point for me too,
Speaker 1: is personally, I'm glad they did not execute that deal.
Speaker 1: I don't love Packiston Lynch. I think, you know, Collins
Speaker 1: can be somebody. Jalen Smith is like the great X
Speaker 1: Factor obviously, but it's interesting to me that if they
Speaker 1: had been that sold on him, isn't two and three
Speaker 1: a fair price for your franchise quarterback of the future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thinking back to two years ago, they gave up
Speaker 1: forty seven and seventy something for DeMarcus. They were willing
Speaker 1: to make that deal for Lawrence without the option. They
Speaker 1: were not going to get the option on him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's on a four year contract. They're not willing to
Speaker 1: do the same thing for Paxiston Lynch on a five
Speaker 1: year option. Well, it's it's funny though, I honestly, I
Speaker 1: think it's the same that they don't love him, and
Speaker 1: i'd everyone in the room at least. Yeah, John Snyder
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell me what they were trying to what he
Speaker 1: turned out. John John's like, He's like, man, I just
Speaker 1: can't do that right now now. Maybe when John and
Speaker 1: I go down the road somewhere and you know, have dinner,
Speaker 1: he'll say, hey, lemonades. Yeah, he'll say hey, listen. You
Speaker 1: know you're you're your owner. GM made a fair offer.
Speaker 1: We just couldn't. We had to take the Denver deal.
Speaker 1: I need to find out too, because I kept bragging
Speaker 1: about and twenty twenty being a spot. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean Mike mcagnan. You know, Mike sat in there
Speaker 1: and made a pick. You know, Mike made his pick.
Speaker 1: He took Darren Lee, the linebacker from from Ohio State.
Speaker 1: And you're sitting there thinking, Okay, could he got a
Speaker 1: bunch of picks at twenty yeah, or just or and
Speaker 1: passed on Derek Lee? Or was Derekly that valuable too?
Speaker 1: And I do wonder that, and you know, thinking back
Speaker 1: to it. So Denver gave up their three, which is
Speaker 1: ninety something ninety six when I think ninety six ninety six, Yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously the Cowboys have a much more valuable third. But
Speaker 1: I have to assume that that fifth year option played
Speaker 1: a big role for the Seahawks too. Oh, no, doubt,
Speaker 1: maybe they jo doubt. I think I'd rather have Denverse
Speaker 1: third and the five year option over the Cowboys third,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, granted, twenty five spots higher, but
Speaker 1: you're signing a guy to a four year deal was
Speaker 1: also the I don't think Seattle wanted to lose a Fetti.
Speaker 1: I think they felt that, yeah, you know, they make
Speaker 1: that move, then they they might lose a Fetti and
Speaker 1: that's something they weren't ready to do. Yeah, that pick
Speaker 1: was let's see, that was pick ninety something ninety four actually,
Speaker 1: and they took a Nick Bennett the tied end from
Speaker 1: Ohio State, so that was a three ninety four. I
Speaker 1: think Dane's absolutely right. I mean, you know that that
Speaker 1: great thirty for thirty about the eighty three draft from
Speaker 1: Lay to Marino. They can make a documentary about this.
Speaker 1: If Paxiston Lynch turns into an all pro, or if
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith turns into an all pro, or especially if
Speaker 1: one of them is great and the other one's not,
Speaker 1: what are deep Blue series at least? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: these I honestly like this. This draft is going to
Speaker 1: be remembered for Paxiston Lynch and Jalen Smith. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey though. I mean that's the comparison, because we've
Speaker 1: all talked about that they had a chance to draft.
Speaker 1: I don't say grades same grade, stack put, but put
Speaker 1: him on top. I think it's a little bit different
Speaker 1: because it will be right now in the moment, the
Speaker 1: Zeke pick is generally regarded as as favorable, as good.
Speaker 1: There's nobody suggesting that this is a bad idea. So
Speaker 1: to go back three years from now and say idiots
Speaker 1: should have taken Ramsey and not Zeke, that's revisionist history.
Speaker 1: But you had a real chance to trade up for
Speaker 1: this quarterback that you believed in, right, didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Took a huge gamble on a great player who might
Speaker 1: not ever be the same. And so that's where you
Speaker 1: start to kind of weigh these things. And you can
Speaker 1: sit here and say when Paxson Lynch is leading Denver
Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl, like, I mean that really
Speaker 1: realistically could have been our guy, or Jalen Smith is
Speaker 1: they were keekly in three years And you brought up
Speaker 1: something interesting about Jalen Smith because on the air we
Speaker 1: were as a group, I mean, this was this was
Speaker 1: I wasn't there you were second day, but Dane and
Speaker 1: cabinall eighteen. I when that pick went in, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like it was the Mike Tyson to the gut. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I usually don't get that way in rooms, and
Speaker 1: I getting when I was a getting mad because somebody
Speaker 1: would go but that one would have taken the air
Speaker 1: out of me legitimate, that one would have been one
Speaker 1: of those Oh my god, what did they just do?
Speaker 1: I had a hard time. It took me a little
Speaker 1: while to kind of organize my thoughts on that because
Speaker 1: we were trying to draft. I mean, we still were
Speaker 1: running through the draft and we just couldn't get off
Speaker 1: at two thirty four. What was just what just happened? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, from all the things, all the draft shows,
Speaker 1: all the medical information, everything about it, led to believe
Speaker 1: that there's only two teams. So I felt like, and
Speaker 1: I've said this a bunch, I've said on Twitter, I
Speaker 1: said it, in a draft, there's two teams that could
Speaker 1: have taken that player. This was one of them and Newland.
Speaker 1: And it sounds like that New England and I'll get
Speaker 1: that information. It sounds like New England was going to
Speaker 1: be in the mix, whether that was at that two
Speaker 1: sixty or two sixty one where they had those picks,
Speaker 1: and yeah, they maybe they move up, but as it
Speaker 1: stands right now, that's a difference of twenty I think
Speaker 1: twenty six picks, right right, So yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: So we always have to wonder, you know, with the
Speaker 1: yeah that sixty and sixty one with the two picks,
Speaker 1: Ogba was, you know, was their guy? Right? And he
Speaker 1: goes off at thirty thirty two to Cleveland, right, And
Speaker 1: so as soon as that happened, you know, they're kind
Speaker 1: of scrambling and okay, do we take the linebacker now?
Speaker 1: I mean it's thirty four. Do we try and trade back?
Speaker 1: It sounds like they were trying to get back and
Speaker 1: and the and the spot appeared to be Indianapolis at
Speaker 1: forty eight. I want to say that pick was let's
Speaker 1: see where, Yeah, let's pick a pick forty eight. So
Speaker 1: you know that was Jerry's a risk tater ticker. We
Speaker 1: know that, but he just was not ready to take
Speaker 1: a risk there and move back and potentially lose Smith.
Speaker 1: The fascinating thing to me is that that decision clearly
Speaker 1: spooked Jacksonville because they traded up to get jack right
Speaker 1: after that. And I wonder, I wonder if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had taken somebody else, how much further to the linebacker
Speaker 1: slide or in an alternate universe, I mean I know
Speaker 1: that they didn't. They were worried about his knee. But
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys had taken Jack, would that have prompted
Speaker 1: somebody to take Smith right after or would he have
Speaker 1: continued to fall. It's interesting, Well they feel like that Smith,
Speaker 1: you know, just and I need to get that intelligence
Speaker 1: and I can get that answer and maybe I'll get
Speaker 1: it out on Twitter one day or something. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there was some concern about that pick sixty with New
Speaker 1: England for Smith, and then also the pick sixty one
Speaker 1: as well. Those were the two and it was impressive
Speaker 1: though the names that went off the board though, after
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, after that pick was made, and you think
Speaker 1: about it, you know, Hunter Henry of course we thought.
Speaker 1: I thought it was the second round grade San Diego.
Speaker 1: You talk about Miles Jack, you know, Xavi how Xavian
Speaker 1: Howard was a guy Noah's Spence, Sterling Shepherd. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's some guys that was like a mini like they
Speaker 1: took Jalen Smith, which kind of stunned all of us.
Speaker 1: Reggie Ragland was another name on ten guys that I
Speaker 1: think generally liked. Well, hey, after no you're talking about
Speaker 1: you know, how do you help your defense? Yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you you know how do you help you do it?
Speaker 1: Clearly they didn't like Miles Jacknee. We talked about that,
Speaker 1: we did. That was But then think about that Howard
Speaker 1: at corner. You know Noah's Spencers as a Yeah, Spencer Raglin,
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson, ward A. Sean Robinson was right after after there.
Speaker 1: So Jaren Reid was another guy. I mean the name
Speaker 1: like the sweet spot. Yeah, this draft, yeah, just a
Speaker 1: lot of really good players and you're sitting here thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: do we help our day? I mean, they're they're taking
Speaker 1: a huge gamble. They know that. We can't overstate that.
Speaker 1: But man, if you look at the names behind, that's
Speaker 1: another thing that I'm gonna focus on down the road.
Speaker 1: Is okay, and you could play the game with any team,
Speaker 1: but look at the names and look at the defensive
Speaker 1: players that you thought that were first round potential players
Speaker 1: that that go behind that pick. You're right because Dallas
Speaker 1: could have grabbed. You know, we're gonna get through these
Speaker 1: teams when we get back from the break. We very
Speaker 1: take a break, but I want to get back into
Speaker 1: these teams. And because there's some teams that grabbed on
Speaker 1: my board, at least grabbed like two first round players
Speaker 1: with their first round and second round pick. Remove the
Speaker 1: names out of it. I mean, I know you're great
Speaker 1: on Smith before he got hurt. It was very very high,
Speaker 1: very high. You take a top five talent with a
Speaker 1: low percentage chance of being healthy or a bottom of
Speaker 1: the round type of guy. I mean, when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: he's clearly the better option. Obviously he's not, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's the gamble, right right. Yeah? That see that
Speaker 1: to me is you know, two general managers in this
Speaker 1: league can make that pick everyone else when they saw it.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of the general managers in that league
Speaker 1: and owners sitting in that draft room and scouts going, man,
Speaker 1: I wish we had the guts to do that. Well,
Speaker 1: I told you there was one team that said their
Speaker 1: doctors told them, yeah, twenty percent chance Jalen Smith plays again.
Speaker 1: That that is one intel that a team had from
Speaker 1: their team doctors. Now I know not you know, the
Speaker 1: team doctor that did the surgery. I mean, Cowboys had
Speaker 1: more information, right absolutely, And these doctors are you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like they don't know what they're doing. So
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's fascinating, this will be This is
Speaker 1: one of those things whether you're a religious person or
Speaker 1: not that you know, we'll see you knowing forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: breaking this down in twenty nineteen. Yeah exactly. I mean
Speaker 1: you could say, hey, this might be a higher being.
Speaker 1: A higher beings will that that knee refires, that that
Speaker 1: nerve refires, and that the kid in fact can play
Speaker 1: because they go to an under dame. Yeah yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: so got touchdown Jesus. Okay, we're gonna We're gonna take
Speaker 1: our first break of the day when we get back.
Speaker 1: I do want to get into these other NFL teams.
Speaker 1: I want to know who you guys, don't. I don't
Speaker 1: need grades, just want hey, who had a night's draft,
Speaker 1: who didn't do so well? We'll do that. We come
Speaker 1: back to the Draft show from the s TOWBC Morgan Studios.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Dallas Cowboys Star Magazine brings you
Speaker 1: behind the scenes coverage within death player stories, entertaining columns,
Speaker 1: a pullout poster, and of course your Dallas Cowboys cheerier.
Speaker 1: Subscribe now and get thirty two issues throughout the year,
Speaker 1: including our season breakdown and the stunning Cheerleader swimsuit. Issue.
Speaker 1: Star is delivered to your door for only thirty nine
Speaker 1: ninety five per year, or go digital for just fourteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine a year through our free star magazine app
Speaker 1: called one eight seven seven NFC Boys Today. It started
Speaker 1: with a single connection and the network was born. It
Speaker 1: soon grew from a luxury to a necessity. So A
Speaker 1: T and T built a network just for you, one
Speaker 1: that connects your entertainment, friends and family, devices and homes.
Speaker 1: We grow as you print, always evolving to work for you,
Speaker 1: how and where you needed. This is your network, the
Speaker 1: network of ATNT hits, the Missus, Tizza, the juice, the sacks, pizza,
Speaker 1: the superstars, the super fans, the pizza. Everything you love
Speaker 1: about football is here, especially pizza. Up your game with
Speaker 1: two large, two topping pizzas for only seven dollars and
Speaker 1: seventy seven cents each. That's two large, two topping pizzas
Speaker 1: for seven dollars and seventy seven cents each. Better ingredients,
Speaker 1: better pizza. Papa Johns dot com, the official pizza sponsor
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Cowboys Nation, gear up for a season
Speaker 1: of new memories and game day celebration. Dallas Jackson Darrett.
Speaker 1: We're being one of the boys means the girls join
Speaker 1: in two where x marks the spot for every false
Speaker 1: Sunday where number nine has become number one in our
Speaker 1: playbook from the only store exclusively for Cowboys Nation, the
Speaker 1: official pro shop of the Dallas Cowboys. Like us on
Speaker 1: Facebook to see the latest in Dallas Cowboys gear. This
Speaker 1: is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft showy back here
Speaker 1: in the SWBC, Mortgange Studios, Brian broad Us, Dame Brugler,
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman, Kit Garrison Executive producing. One more time as
Speaker 1: we kind of put a bow on this twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL draft. It's the eighty first edition of the NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: which took a lot of twist and turns before again
Speaker 1: before we and Dani you Brough up a good point
Speaker 1: before we get into the other teams around the league
Speaker 1: and maybe what we saw good and bad. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about though, what we saw in the with the with
Speaker 1: like say, those guys in three day three type of
Speaker 1: guys and where you how you saw that all play
Speaker 1: out for the Cowboys. Yeah, and Dak Prescott in the fourth.
Speaker 1: You know that's a player we talked about a lot.
Speaker 1: You know he's going to come in be a solid backup,
Speaker 1: might never be that long term starter. And the eventual
Speaker 1: air to the quarterback number one spot. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'd like to pick again. I think I workshire getting
Speaker 1: a solid backup. And then in the sixth I really
Speaker 1: like what they did here. Anthony Brown's a player that
Speaker 1: we had graded much higher. Yeah. Absolutely, I had a
Speaker 1: third round grade on Anthony Brow. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: fourth round grade round So we thought similar on the player.
Speaker 1: I mean, good size, blur speed, always within arm's length
Speaker 1: of the of the receiver. So really like Anthony and Brown,
Speaker 1: he would he could potentially be uh Covon Frazier. I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that could push for starter reps sure,
Speaker 1: if not this year, by year two at safety. Uh
Speaker 1: it really liked him. Uh Rico Gathers. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: he was a player that obviously we don't have tape
Speaker 1: on him from Baylor unless you want to put on
Speaker 1: the basketball tape. You know, that's the point of the
Speaker 1: draft when you take chances on these types of guys.
Speaker 1: Twenty six teams went to his workout. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that that's why they did that. Absolutely. That
Speaker 1: was the one thing when I asked about Gathers, it
Speaker 1: was we just did not want to take a chance
Speaker 1: to have to fight for him at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. And the fact that they didn't have a
Speaker 1: seventh round pick made it made sense there. And uh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay with that kind of stuff. I have
Speaker 1: no problem. How about the Derris Jackson though from Eastern Michigan,
Speaker 1: any thoughts. I sat down and watched a little tape
Speaker 1: at him. The thing I liked about him was the
Speaker 1: fact how he finished. There's a lot of runs where
Speaker 1: you know, he burst through the hole and had six
Speaker 1: foot two hundred and twenty pounds. You know, four three
Speaker 1: two speed is what four three eight speed? Three protect? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, and and you saw a guy when
Speaker 1: you know, when I watched the cut up that the
Speaker 1: scouts went through, you know, that opened up and he
Speaker 1: was through. And then there were times when he was
Speaker 1: finishing physical, protected the football. A couple of times they
Speaker 1: threw him the ball in the swings and stuff. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I got the scouting reports up on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Encourage you to encourage you to
Speaker 1: look at those. But you know, the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: though there were a couple of times where I felt
Speaker 1: like though there was some concentration, problems with drops, easy
Speaker 1: stuff underneath, stuff to the side. He seemed pretty good
Speaker 1: at there was a couple of times they ran him
Speaker 1: on some Texas stuff inside where he lost the concentration.
Speaker 1: He's going to have to develop though, as a pass
Speaker 1: blocker because the efforts there, the head goes down a
Speaker 1: little bit. Technique that stuff Gary Brown will work on
Speaker 1: and on special teams. I think that's we're really mean.
Speaker 1: Jackson's gonna have to stand out. And absolutely he was
Speaker 1: drafted based on trades basically sixth rounds, right, and when
Speaker 1: you talk about a player that he didn't do much
Speaker 1: the first three years, you know, but as a senior
Speaker 1: of a thousand yards rush, I really kind of emerged
Speaker 1: and so I was encouraged. But I think, yeah, what
Speaker 1: he did at his pro day is really the big
Speaker 1: reason he got drafted. And so you know, I wrote
Speaker 1: him up. I wrote Rico gathers up in the book,
Speaker 1: and so I was happy it was not cut off
Speaker 1: guard by a swim this year. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: way to go. Hey, victory, you got it as a victory,
Speaker 1: I'm no sorry, go ahead, Eastern Michigan. You you assume
Speaker 1: something about the level of talent not to mention the
Speaker 1: level of competition, right. I didn't think about this on
Speaker 1: draft day because so much was going on. He played
Speaker 1: our LSU Tigers last year. They threw him into the
Speaker 1: line like twenty times, and he's grinding out yards and
Speaker 1: finishing against you know, much much better competition and what
Speaker 1: you would expect. So I was impressed when I I
Speaker 1: think he ran. I think he ran nineteen times for
Speaker 1: sixty five or seventy yards in a touchdown in tough
Speaker 1: yards against LSU. Yeah, that's that's pretty impressive. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna focus in on some of the likes and dislikes
Speaker 1: of this draft. When we went around, we were that
Speaker 1: was the one thing that our draft coverage I felt
Speaker 1: like that, you know, we it was we had the
Speaker 1: cowboy side of it here, but then we had let's
Speaker 1: make sure we cover this entire draft foot some of
Speaker 1: your takeaways, though, I mean, did you have somebody that
Speaker 1: you really really like? Did you have the top five?
Speaker 1: Did you have somebody that you know, Wow, these guys
Speaker 1: off my board, and that's really what you're basing this
Speaker 1: off of. And and I hate throwing the draft grade
Speaker 1: out there. People asked me for the draft grade, and
Speaker 1: I reminded him of the story of John Gohler who
Speaker 1: told me I had the worst draft in the history
Speaker 1: of the National Football League and for the eight picks
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. So draft grades, no, just ask
Speaker 1: me what happens to three years now. But is there
Speaker 1: somebody just looking at your board how it was drafted.
Speaker 1: Would you've drafted it this way or that? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: I don't think just like you. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: do any I don't do draft grades. But what I
Speaker 1: do is a no down like my top five. You
Speaker 1: know the teams that I thought really got better with
Speaker 1: what they did. Cincinnati Bengals stand out first and foremost,
Speaker 1: and they didn't make a single trade. They stayed at
Speaker 1: pick at in every seven, in each of the seven rounds,
Speaker 1: and they stayed there. They took their guy, let the
Speaker 1: board fall into them, and that that's kind of what
Speaker 1: they believe. In Dallas. Jerry Jones, in his tenure as
Speaker 1: the general manager owner general manager for the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: has made a trade with all teams. Cincinnati is the
Speaker 1: only team he has never made a trade with. And
Speaker 1: that's what they do. They just tried to this year.
Speaker 1: They just yeah, they get up into that late first round,
Speaker 1: but they weren't budget they picked. They just all they do.
Speaker 1: But and then they took William Jackson the first round,
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd in the second, Nick Vigil and the third,
Speaker 1: and then Andrew Billings and the fourth Christian Westerman. We
Speaker 1: got to figure out what happened Andrew Billings. Those five
Speaker 1: guys right there in the first five rounds. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think those guys will start at some point in the
Speaker 1: next two years for Cincinnatis. I think that's a home
Speaker 1: run um Jacksonville to me, we talked about Miles jack
Speaker 1: in the second, Jalen Ramsey and the first like what
Speaker 1: they did with on defense, Sheldon Day, Tyron Holmes, Uh,
Speaker 1: Brandon and Allen can be a cel at number two.
Speaker 1: So Jacksonville I thought killed it Minnesota with Laquon Treadwell, McKenzie,
Speaker 1: Alexander Uh, not the biggest Willie Beavers fan. But then
Speaker 1: they come back and then he said that during the draft.
Speaker 1: Come back in the fifth with Kenshall Brothers. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know he for eight, but the guy just the instincts
Speaker 1: are there, so it makes up for the speed. So
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are in that conversation the Ravens. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm not I wasn't a big
Speaker 1: fan of Ronnie Stanley. Yeah, but uh, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you with the Ray. I'll tell you with in
Speaker 1: Ravens right where I thought I thought their picks were
Speaker 1: better from one thirty four to two oh nine because
Speaker 1: I think when they hit at one Kenneth, they get
Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon. The my board is a two Matt Jerdawn
Speaker 1: Is was it was a third round pick. Uh, the
Speaker 1: quarterback from Navy. You know that's that's Azzi. You know,
Speaker 1: congratulations on that. Uh Marcus, you know candidate Maris cannidately
Speaker 1: Maurice Cannidate, that guy, you know, fourth round pick on
Speaker 1: my board. So yeah, I felt like that the Ravens
Speaker 1: did a little bit better. Did you Buffalo do anything
Speaker 1: for you at all? Buffalo is my fifth team. You
Speaker 1: look at Shack Lawson in the first, Reggie Raglan in
Speaker 1: the second, two first round, two first round grades, a
Speaker 1: Dolphins Washington third round grade on my Cardell Jones, and
Speaker 1: the fourth future Hall of Famer. Yeah it's a Dolphin's Washington.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's okay, but no, with Cardell, he's going to
Speaker 1: a good situation, meaning he won't have to get on
Speaker 1: the field this year. How about how about Jonathan Williams there?
Speaker 1: I mean that was your guy. Worry about the foot
Speaker 1: issue moving forward, you know, especially at the running back position.
Speaker 1: But in the fifth, take a chance on a guy
Speaker 1: like that Colby Listing being the six. Come on Seymour
Speaker 1: in the six. See Seymour, I had a third round
Speaker 1: grade on and you're getting that guy in the six.
Speaker 1: Buffalo did a nice job there as well. Uh, just
Speaker 1: kind of okay, anybody else you got there, Dame? Those
Speaker 1: are my top five and you know who else? I
Speaker 1: know A couple of the teams stood off for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I I was kind of thinking that green Bay.
Speaker 1: Green Bay was but I felt like on my board,
Speaker 1: and I know you weren't a huge fan of Floyd,
Speaker 1: but but but the Chicago Bears, Yeah, Chicago Bears went Hair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they went Floyd and then they went white Hair and
Speaker 1: then Bullard. Yeah. On my board, those were three, all
Speaker 1: three second round picks. So you know that's not a
Speaker 1: bad Uh. The linebacker from West Virginia, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you can I can live without that one. But Jordan
Speaker 1: Howard I thought in the fifth round was at fourth
Speaker 1: round value. And then Braverman, the wider's here from Western Michigan,
Speaker 1: they got into seventh round. I thought he was a
Speaker 1: sixth round guy, so that was kind of Uh, let
Speaker 1: me look, I'm looking just kind of looking through the
Speaker 1: ones I'm marked down here, Dave, you have any thoughts
Speaker 1: on something? Yeah, I got y'all have touched on a
Speaker 1: lot of ones. I like Jacksonville stands out to me
Speaker 1: specifically just because they basically did like the bizarro Cowboys draft. Right.
Speaker 1: They took Ramsey, who was probably the guy if Zeke wasn't,
Speaker 1: And then they took Miles jack who is like the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of Jalen Smith and right, top five talent.
Speaker 1: He can play now, he might not be able to
Speaker 1: play later, So I'm fascinated to see how that turns out.
Speaker 1: I'm also fascinated at the thought of, you know, Jacksonville
Speaker 1: having three top ten type of talents joining their defense
Speaker 1: at the same time when you throw in Dante Dollar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the one that I liked that you haven't mentioned. We
Speaker 1: give fans a lot of grief from time to time
Speaker 1: because they think and behave as though this were a
Speaker 1: game of Madden, and you have to that's not the
Speaker 1: way this works, you know. But the Houston Texans drafted
Speaker 1: like they were playing Madden, and I actually really loved it.
Speaker 1: I mean, they spend seventy two million dollars on a
Speaker 1: quarterback they don't know if he's any good, and Bill
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien just says, you know what, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: everything I can to make this easy on you. And
Speaker 1: they go get Will Fuller. They get Nick Martin, who's
Speaker 1: probably the second best center in the draft. They go
Speaker 1: get Braxton Miller, right, he kind of faded down the stretch,
Speaker 1: but everybody was super high on him. They got him
Speaker 1: in the third round. And then they get Tyler Irvin,
Speaker 1: who will go out the Senior Bowl shifty little you know.
Speaker 1: Um kind of reminds me of not I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: not the same type of player, but they had Steve
Speaker 1: Slayton there a few years back, and I think he
Speaker 1: feels a lot of the same type as that. And
Speaker 1: so you spent that kind of money on a quarterback, Well,
Speaker 1: he's lee, I mean, and all these guys are joining
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and Lamar Miller who were already down there.
Speaker 1: So if brock Osweiler is not successful, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: on him. They've set him up to succeed. And I
Speaker 1: was told that Braxon Miller if they didn't get Will
Speaker 1: Fuller and round one, Braxon Miller was the guy they're
Speaker 1: looking at round two. And then the fact that he
Speaker 1: was still on the board for them in round three.
Speaker 1: They couldn't help themselves. Let's you know, five, Yeah, why not, Braxon?
Speaker 1: Come on, let's let's go make I have some fun
Speaker 1: on off the off, the the Brian broadest board. Will
Speaker 1: Fuller the two. Martin was a three, Braxton Miller was
Speaker 1: a two. He talked about Urban he was a fit
Speaker 1: of five for me. And then but the guy like
Speaker 1: DJ Reader you talked about all the offensive readers. DJ
Speaker 1: Reader I had as a third rounder. Yeah, he might
Speaker 1: take you know when Vince Wolfoor, Yeah, get out of
Speaker 1: their readers. That's a big that's a big man with
Speaker 1: a nice grade inside. Right the other I just I
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I'm not maybe it's not the best drafting
Speaker 1: strategy in the world, but I love it when teams
Speaker 1: are like, this is our problem and we're gonna fix it.
Speaker 1: Base Carolina drafted three cornerbacks this year. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: they probably don't need that many, but they're gonna make
Speaker 1: sure they find Norman's replacement. At least that's the hope.
Speaker 1: And uh, Seattle did the same thing. I mean, they
Speaker 1: took Effettie, they took Odeambo, and I think the third
Speaker 1: round the tackle let's see, they it was a relatively
Speaker 1: high pick. And then Thomas Rawls is obviously coming back
Speaker 1: off a broken leg. You lose Marshaw Lynch to retirement,
Speaker 1: so what do they do? They draft like two top
Speaker 1: one hundred type running backs because they'll pro Sits and
Speaker 1: Alex Collins. They'll be damned if they're gonna miss Marshawn
Speaker 1: Lynch basically, and they and they also here's another one
Speaker 1: that we at nauseum. We were talking about Kenny Lawler,
Speaker 1: ya know, at the seventh round. Yeah, I forgot all
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, we're trying to we're trying to take
Speaker 1: this draft to the finish line. At two forty three,
Speaker 1: they picked Kenny Lawler. Remember that another day, Bryan Bryan
Speaker 1: was Brian was talking to somebody after the draft about
Speaker 1: the picks and who they liked and who they didn't like,
Speaker 1: and he say He was like, just just remember me
Speaker 1: right now telling you that Kenny Lawler is gonna catch
Speaker 1: about eighty balls for them, Yeah, very soon. Kenny Lawlers
Speaker 1: was not the two y third best player. He wasn't me.
Speaker 1: That's see. That's the thing about it is and and
Speaker 1: the fact that they got it. They got Jaron Reid.
Speaker 1: That's another one of those names that you know when
Speaker 1: you look, you know, I have fetty. I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: had him like as a fourth round guy, probably too
Speaker 1: low on him. But I will say this though, when
Speaker 1: you come back and you hit a on my board,
Speaker 1: you go read procise. You know that right there you
Speaker 1: got my attention that all of a sudden, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you might have liked this offensive tackle light, but you
Speaker 1: know what you brought me back in with those two picks.
Speaker 1: Did you text John and tell him like, way to go?
Speaker 1: And he didn't. He didn't need to hear that from me.
Speaker 1: He didn't. I'll tell you what I like what Tampa
Speaker 1: did you know? We talked about hard Graves and potentially
Speaker 1: you know what the pitfalls of him up for a kicker.
Speaker 1: But I didn't like that at all. That's not a
Speaker 1: big face, but I'll tell you what. Noah Spence Noah
Speaker 1: Spence at at two thirty nine, and then they got
Speaker 1: Ryan Smith at four one oh eight. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: Peter King actually blew me away with a stat in
Speaker 1: his story today, which I mean, Aguio has been a
Speaker 1: great college kicker for basically his entire career. I think
Speaker 1: he's probably worth being drafted fairly high, given how successfully
Speaker 1: is He only hit on seventy two percent of his
Speaker 1: kicks over forty yards, which that's just not good to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, And in the NFL, any anybody, anybody good
Speaker 1: enough to make an NFL roster can hit his kicks
Speaker 1: from insight forty What you're paying for is those long kicks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, that's that's scary to me that they
Speaker 1: traded up to spend a second round pick on a
Speaker 1: guy who's shaky from long distance at the same time
Speaker 1: an accurate quarterback. You know, whether it's extra points or whatever.
Speaker 1: We've seen plenty of kickers miss within forty yards, you think,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's something too that consistency. And uh from
Speaker 1: my Aguio report, he was perfect forty nine for forty
Speaker 1: nine within forty yards, So I think that consistency is
Speaker 1: a big reason. But no, you're right, because he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a power leg. His career best is a fifty.
Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be elevation. He's a chip, you know. It's
Speaker 1: just like a golfer, right exactly. He gets that that
Speaker 1: lift and it looks pretty. But in terms of a
Speaker 1: power leg, that's not him, that's not his game. Tell
Speaker 1: me what you think about this draft. This was this
Speaker 1: is when I start because Conklin at one eight over tounsil,
Speaker 1: Kevin Dodd at two thirty three, Austin Johnson at three
Speaker 1: forty three, Derek Henry at three forty five. See, those
Speaker 1: are the picks we wanted. Remember we were five, yeah, two,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two forty five. Remember we were trying, like
Speaker 1: heck and Dallas is gonna drop down if if they're
Speaker 1: gonna go get somebody like shack Loss and if they're
Speaker 1: gonna go remember when remember when initially tenant uh that
Speaker 1: that that those picks belong to the Rams who were trying,
Speaker 1: Like as soon as as soon as they picked Henry
Speaker 1: to go with Conklin and Johnson and Dodd, I mean
Speaker 1: as soon as you have just those guys, and they
Speaker 1: made more picks, but just those guys. I was like,
Speaker 1: I see why they wanted to trade. I'd rather have
Speaker 1: that than Jared Goffs. I mean, especially if I already
Speaker 1: had Marke Mariota Good and and and then Kevin Ballard
Speaker 1: the safety. Yeah you know, I mean he was taken
Speaker 1: in the third at three sixty four. I had a
Speaker 1: fourth round grade Taja Sharpe from Massive from you Mask.
Speaker 1: You'd seen him in some All Star Game stuff. Yeah, yeah, Look,
Speaker 1: this film looked better at you Mass than it did
Speaker 1: at those All Star Games. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was maybe you know, he'd played in that competitional help. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's a good player. You remember, like five or
Speaker 1: six years ago when the Seahawks won the NFC West
Speaker 1: at seven and nine and beat the Saints, and yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was like a joke of a division. But
Speaker 1: Carol got there and Harbaugh got there, and you could
Speaker 1: kind of see like things were trending upwards. Now it's
Speaker 1: a really tough division. Yeah, I'm calling it now that
Speaker 1: the AFC South is about to be got to be
Speaker 1: the Beast East mode. How about how does this when
Speaker 1: all those teams look like they have taken significant steps
Speaker 1: start getting does anyway, is just doing the for anybody?
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner, Josh Garnett, those corners, Will Redman right there,
Speaker 1: Roson Robinson from Ella's Shoe, those corners run or something
Speaker 1: about Ronald Blair. I mean, we've talked about your guy.
Speaker 1: That's the one I'm gonna keep an eye on. That
Speaker 1: pick was made at five one forty two right there.
Speaker 1: Do you like him in that defense? That's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be don't fit. But we'll see this should probably just
Speaker 1: too much, too much value. But then Kelvin Taylor also
Speaker 1: the running back at six two eleven. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a physical guy right there as well. Okay, well let's
Speaker 1: do this. We're gonna take our I'm gonna get at
Speaker 1: you real quick. Go And this is hard to do,
Speaker 1: I know, But I mean if you're just looking through
Speaker 1: a list like you're doing right now, and you pull
Speaker 1: out the Cowboys, nine guys, yeah, and how you feeling
Speaker 1: about it? Well, that's what I'm saying. I was we've
Speaker 1: talked so much about the Cowboys, but I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my board and how I had it, How I had
Speaker 1: it great? And now again the second round pick I
Speaker 1: had as a guy that I would because of the injury,
Speaker 1: you would say, well, maybe we consider it one eighty nine.
Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna happen. Where'd you have Collins? Because this
Speaker 1: is my I had Collins in the fourth night. There's
Speaker 1: a good chance he would have been there for them
Speaker 1: in the forest. Yeah, and I have boysmans don't want
Speaker 1: to hear that, but yeah, well they're hearing it right
Speaker 1: now because it's true. And then I had Collins in
Speaker 1: the fourth, and then I had Tapper in the fifth,
Speaker 1: which they took in the fourth. You know again, that
Speaker 1: might be the scheme prom Dak Prescott I had in
Speaker 1: the fourth. See the Anthony Brown one is the one
Speaker 1: that said which one do you like? I'll take Anthy
Speaker 1: Brown because I had it. I had him in the
Speaker 1: third round. Their entire sixth round, I thought that was
Speaker 1: Frazier was a five on my board. So yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see Elliot. Of course, this is my second best player
Speaker 1: on the board, so give him some credit for that.
Speaker 1: But it's tough. Well see, let's see what it sounds
Speaker 1: like a cop out. It's just everything about it makes
Speaker 1: it tough to great. I mean, if Collins turns out
Speaker 1: to be good nobody's gonna care that the hit that
Speaker 1: he went around early. That's the thing. And honestly, it's
Speaker 1: the first two picks. I think your first two round picks,
Speaker 1: which are expected to be starters in this day and age,
Speaker 1: are the only ones where you can really sit there
Speaker 1: and say, like, this was good, this was a mistake.
Speaker 1: This team has had some trouble in that second round though,
Speaker 1: I mean they've had a lot of trouble in the
Speaker 1: second round. They've also had a lot of trouble in
Speaker 1: the later rounds. Absolutely, we'll see it. Maybe it'll turn around. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break today and then we
Speaker 1: will come back. I want to take some calls. I
Speaker 1: maybe wanted two. Also hit a couple of teams that
Speaker 1: we didn't like. You know, I've got one in mind
Speaker 1: that I really didn't like them. We'll see, and she's
Speaker 1: a pretty good drafting team. So we'll be right back
Speaker 1: with the Draft Show from the SWBC Mortgage Studios in
Speaker 1: just a moment. Dallas Cowboys Star Magazine brings you behind
Speaker 1: the scenes coverage within depth, player stories, entertaining columns, a
Speaker 1: pull out poster, and of course you're Dallas Cowboys Chili.
Speaker 1: Subscribe now and get thirty two issues throughout the year,
Speaker 1: including our season breakdown and the stunning Cheerie. The swimming
Speaker 1: Suit issue. Star is delivered to your door for only
Speaker 1: thirty nine ninety five per year, or go digital for
Speaker 1: just fourteen ninety nine a year through our free Star
Speaker 1: Magazine app called one, eight seven seven NFC Boys Today
Speaker 1: that hits the Missus, Tizza, the jus, the Sacks, the pizza,
Speaker 1: the superstars, the super fans, the pizza. Everything you love
Speaker 1: about football this year, especially pizza. Help your game with
Speaker 1: two large, two topping pizzas for only seven dollars and
Speaker 1: seventy seven cents each. That's two large, two topping pizzas
Speaker 1: for seven dollars and seventy seven cents each. Better ingredients,
Speaker 1: better pizza. Papa Johns dot com, the official pizza sponsor
Speaker 1: of the NFL. It started with a single connection and
Speaker 1: the network was born. It soon grew from a luxury
Speaker 1: to a necessity. So ATNT builds a network just for you,
Speaker 1: one that connects your entertainment, friends and family, devices and homes.
Speaker 1: We grow as you grow, always evolving to work for you,
Speaker 1: how and where you needed. This is your network. The
Speaker 1: network of ATNT. Star Sports Tours is the only official
Speaker 1: fan travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game
Speaker 1: weekend travel packages with sideline access and photo ops with
Speaker 1: current players, Cowboy legends, cheerleaders and me Brian brought us.
Speaker 1: Want to stay at the team hotel. With Star Sports Tours,
Speaker 1: you can and our outstanding ticket selection is unmatched. You
Speaker 1: can trust the official travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and with us, you'll travel like a pro. Visit Starsports
Speaker 1: Tours dot com to book your travel packages today. This
Speaker 1: is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com draft. You Cowboys back here.
Speaker 1: Thank the folks for Starsports Tours. Make sure you check
Speaker 1: them out at starsports Tours dot com. Come see David
Speaker 1: Hellman and I out on the road. We'll be out there.
Speaker 1: Just check the schedule ready. I'm ready to go out
Speaker 1: there and hang out with Tiny Jim. That's maybe some
Speaker 1: of my mistake. He'll love you for that. Some of
Speaker 1: my favorite times covering this team are the Saturdays on
Speaker 1: the road when we get to the hotel and everybody,
Speaker 1: even when the team was like four and ten, yeah
Speaker 1: last year, you know, you grow It was nice. You
Speaker 1: get to the hotel everybody's excited and nice and yeah
Speaker 1: it's fun. So check my guys out, come see us
Speaker 1: on the road or come to h A T. T. Steam.
Speaker 1: So some great packages for you guys to be a
Speaker 1: part of. Okay, Um, do me a favorite real quick, Dane,
Speaker 1: I missed him this, you know. I mean, I get
Speaker 1: scatterbrain on stuff. Hit my draft on the the NFC East,
Speaker 1: We've talked about the Cowboys, but kind of just kind
Speaker 1: of good thumbnail. Maybe a couple of ideas about each
Speaker 1: NFC East team, if you would. I think with the Giants, uh,
Speaker 1: the first round pick, I think they wanted Leonard Floyd.
Speaker 1: Then the Bears leap frogged him, so they went with
Speaker 1: their second best option. A little bit of a panic
Speaker 1: move toke Eli Apple seems like a reach. It does,
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, two three years from now,
Speaker 1: we could be looking back at saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: he was worth a pick um. You know, he's more
Speaker 1: of a development guy, and that's fine. I think down
Speaker 1: the road it'll be worth the pick. Sure, Sterling Shepherd
Speaker 1: in the second that's as a darn good pick. It's
Speaker 1: it's going to be tough for defenses to cover both
Speaker 1: him and Beckham right. Uh and if Cruz ever gets
Speaker 1: back to what he used to be, Giants have something
Speaker 1: something shaken there. Darian Thompson, B. J. Goodson. Maybe these
Speaker 1: guys pushed for starting roles start with the Giants. Paul
Speaker 1: Perkins not a huge fan of his run style, but
Speaker 1: I think he fits kind of what they want to do,
Speaker 1: and that's running back by committee. So Paul Perkins, I
Speaker 1: think it's a good landing spot for him. Big fan
Speaker 1: of the Darrell Adams pick too. Yes, also at tight end,
Speaker 1: he could be something down the road for them. The Redskins.
Speaker 1: Josh Dockson, Yeah, there you go, that's an excellent pick
Speaker 1: up for them. Suet Cravens eager to see how he
Speaker 1: is used because he's just a darn good football player.
Speaker 1: Uh So, but if you draft him, you had to
Speaker 1: have a plan for him. Kendall Fuller I stealed in
Speaker 1: the third round. If he ever gets back too close
Speaker 1: to full health, and then then you like what they
Speaker 1: did on Day three with Matt Ianitas, Steven Daniels, some
Speaker 1: defensive guys, So I think that would make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense for them. And then who else are we
Speaker 1: looking at? Philadelphia? Philadelphia obviously their draft hinges On. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you talk about the Cowboys draft hinging on smart, Right,
Speaker 1: how about that hinges on Carson Wentz. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: what when we might not see him at all this year? Right?
Speaker 1: So I think for the Eagles draft, we're talking down
Speaker 1: the road and how Carson Wentz ends up that. I
Speaker 1: like what they did in round three Isaac Samalo. To me,
Speaker 1: he was a top one hundred pick and they took
Speaker 1: up with seventy nine. That's great value to me, center guard.
Speaker 1: He could play both some decent pickups on later in
Speaker 1: the draft in the seventh round. Two SEC players that
Speaker 1: stand out, Jalen Mills, Alex mccalliser. Two guys with some
Speaker 1: questionable off field character concerns, but put them on the field,
Speaker 1: they can play. They might be able to carve out
Speaker 1: a role with the Philadelphia Okay, well that's going around
Speaker 1: the NFC East. I'll kind of just real quick. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about a team that I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was surprised about their draft and AFC North. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the AFC North. Then the Cowboys do face the Steelers
Speaker 1: and I and I have a ton of respect for
Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert and that scouting staff and your buddy, the
Speaker 1: head coach there. I mean, I he is my friend.
Speaker 1: But I thought that was a kind of a strange
Speaker 1: draft for them. You know, usually there were those teams
Speaker 1: that gets great value with their pick, and I thought
Speaker 1: that they were a little bit when they when they
Speaker 1: went early, they weren't as good. I think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some questions about the Already Burns pick. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and I might be dead wrong about this, but Already
Speaker 1: Burns at one twenty five, Sean Davis at two fifty eight,
Speaker 1: you know, say what you want and maybe more about uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say measurables, but maybe about speed. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure did gra him as a
Speaker 1: safety or a corner? Graham is a safety? I agree,
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably what they did too. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Hardgraves kid. We've talked about him from uh, you know,
Speaker 1: from the our days of you helping him at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and getting him on. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: really feel like that he was a third round player.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you thought differently right there. That
Speaker 1: was my favorite pick of the Steelers draft. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then and then Gerald Hawkins Dave our Lsu buddy tackle
Speaker 1: goes four one twenty three. You know, so, I mean
Speaker 1: I was a little I was. I thought if you
Speaker 1: look at the last day, getting men Cavid hit seventeen
Speaker 1: forty six was probably one of those things where you go, wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't feel great about Harby Burns, but Tyler made
Speaker 1: Cavic is gonna be so you know, maybe maybe the Steelers,
Speaker 1: I you know, they they've proven me wrong before and
Speaker 1: so we'll see. All right, Kent Garrison, Hey, welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you, sir. Okay, we're gonna try and
Speaker 1: line up some calls if we could. Is that possible
Speaker 1: right now? Are we that as possible? We have one
Speaker 1: holding as we speak. Okay, Well, guys, we're doing great.
Speaker 1: Everybody's happy. We got a little rest on Sunday, kind
Speaker 1: of got recharged, watched the little NASCAR, a little hockey.
Speaker 1: We're all good. Uh so we're all doing great, So
Speaker 1: we'll just take the calls. Kent, it's all yours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ron and Virginia has been holding Ron going, Ron, go ahead, Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing great? Hey, y'all touched on
Speaker 1: the subject a little bit. I just want to get
Speaker 1: your opinion, Dave and Brian opinion. Who would you picked
Speaker 1: out of Jalen Smith and Miles Jack for somebody who
Speaker 1: wouldn't guarantee to play this season? Okay? Uh? I mean,
Speaker 1: and we know we've known how the Cowboys have felt,
Speaker 1: yeah for a while now. But I think I would
Speaker 1: take my chance on the guy who can play now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. I think we all agree on that. I
Speaker 1: think Miles Jack, I mean next to me, And if
Speaker 1: both guys were healthy, that would be a great debate
Speaker 1: if both guys were healthy. But you know, to me,
Speaker 1: Miles Jack was my number one player. I have a
Speaker 1: history of this. I have a history of taking linebackers
Speaker 1: that play a long time. I had a history of
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guard tackle that had a bad
Speaker 1: shoulder that played a long time. So you talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, maximizing the Romo window. Right, If Miles Jack
Speaker 1: can play thirty two games at his highest level and
Speaker 1: then he's done, that might help you win a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl here hypothetical, Okay, we would rather have Miles Jack.
Speaker 1: If I tell you he will play four years in
Speaker 1: this league and then he'll be done, but he'll play
Speaker 1: those four years at the level that you scouted him
Speaker 1: on film, right, Or you could have Jalen Smith who
Speaker 1: will come back, but he won't be quite what he
Speaker 1: used to be. And you know, maybe he'll be a
Speaker 1: solid starter, but he won't be what years because I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna keep trying to draft. And we talked about
Speaker 1: this like back when we when we first started talking
Speaker 1: about this, I mean linebacker. It reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of running back in the way like it is a
Speaker 1: it is a physical How many years did Patrick Willis play? Seven?
Speaker 1: He was drafted? What in seven? Right? He was part
Speaker 1: of the Yeah, because he was part of the right
Speaker 1: I think it was it was six or seven something
Speaker 1: like that him in front of I didn't mean almost
Speaker 1: pausitive as o seven he was drafted, So, um, yeah
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah. Seven, he's thirty one years old
Speaker 1: and he's not playing football anymore. Yeah, I mean so
Speaker 1: four obviously seven years is almost double four. But still
Speaker 1: if you're giving me four years of Miles Jack at
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to be at one of the most
Speaker 1: physical positions in football, right, Hell yeah, you draft players
Speaker 1: for the rookie contracts you do if you're able to
Speaker 1: extend them that they must have done a heck of
Speaker 1: a job. Great, but you draft players for the rookie conners,
Speaker 1: just like running back, linebackers, not a position rolling around,
Speaker 1: cornerback and tackle or like really the only positions where
Speaker 1: you want a guy to play more than seven or
Speaker 1: so years. Okay, kid, you got Sam and san Antonio
Speaker 1: and quarterback obviously Sam Hey. But as I want to say,
Speaker 1: I feel like, based on you know, what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: did in the first round, I would I would value evaluate,
Speaker 1: I would grade them. If I was gonna give him
Speaker 1: a grade, i'd give him a D. Only because not
Speaker 1: because I don't think that the running back is a
Speaker 1: great player. I think he's a great player. But I
Speaker 1: think we went in, we invested the top top five
Speaker 1: picks in the most expendable position that there is in
Speaker 1: all of sports. It's a running back. You know you talked,
Speaker 1: you touched on it earlier when you talked about the
Speaker 1: kid from Rollynch from UH Seattle. He was their best
Speaker 1: back by far. They did not miss Marshall Lynch while
Speaker 1: he was out there, and he was out there help
Speaker 1: now he got hurt, and obviously that's that's attributed to
Speaker 1: the positions that he plays. In and obviously we can
Speaker 1: see the same thing you know transpire with Elliott. We
Speaker 1: hope he doesn't. But also I say, I'll give him
Speaker 1: a reason why I gave him a deed is because
Speaker 1: the same thing that Jerry done regrets about about not
Speaker 1: actually getting the deal done with pact the lych Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Sam. Appreciate that we've talked about
Speaker 1: the value of the running back position. And you know,
Speaker 1: to me, my trump card to that because I get it.
Speaker 1: I understand that argument absolutely. My trump card to that is,
Speaker 1: who else are you drafting a four who will translate
Speaker 1: to more wins over the next three years? You're Tony
Speaker 1: Roman Window and more production. To me, that's Ezekie Elliott.
Speaker 1: If you're if the goal out of the draft is
Speaker 1: the fine players who will help you win games, Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliot will do that more than Jalen Ramsey will. He
Speaker 1: will do that more than Leonard Floyd will. And so
Speaker 1: for me, that's the trump card. Zeke will translate to
Speaker 1: more wins than any other player you take up a
Speaker 1: number four. I also I love Jalen Ramsey a lot.
Speaker 1: I think he would have been good here too. I
Speaker 1: don't trust that this team would use him to maximize
Speaker 1: his ability. Jalen rams You already have a guy like that,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey has your first round pick loss. Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: as a quarter true. Do you feel better about Jamie
Speaker 1: as a corner or Zeke is a running back? Zeke
Speaker 1: is run close? Yeah, that's the argument. But I mean,
Speaker 1: if you get I do get what he's trying to say.
Speaker 1: I understand. No no, I'm saying no no. I Hey,
Speaker 1: we appreciate Sam always. I wouldn't. I would argue, and
Speaker 1: he's He's right. Rawls was great last year. Marshawn Lynch
Speaker 1: is at the tail end of his career after a
Speaker 1: very productive career in Seattle and Buffalo too, but mainly Seattle,
Speaker 1: where I would argue he was the second most important
Speaker 1: part of that offense, being super Bowl caliber behind Russell Wilson. Right,
Speaker 1: he was their identity and you talk, I mean DeMarco
Speaker 1: Murray was their identity for about two years here. And
Speaker 1: if you can get Ali, if you can get five
Speaker 1: years and people want again, people want the extra contract, whatever.
Speaker 1: If you can get five years of Zeke at what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be, I think it'd make a far
Speaker 1: bigger difference than a lot of guys that got picked
Speaker 1: up in five years from now, the rookie five years now,
Speaker 1: the running back number will be lower for that if
Speaker 1: you have to get that fifth year no, because we
Speaker 1: remember we were talking about because guys are starting to
Speaker 1: get less and less second contract exactly. So maybe that
Speaker 1: number will be lower, you know, in five years from now,
Speaker 1: if you when you when you have to make that option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe the number isn't eleven million dollars dollars. I think
Speaker 1: I think the option for a running back right now
Speaker 1: is like nine. Yeah, and maybe it won't. Maybe it won't.
Speaker 1: Just go back to last year. Todd Gurley, he was
Speaker 1: taking tenth overall, right, if we could redo that draft
Speaker 1: to guarantee he goes higher than tenth, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: if you can find a special running back that impacts
Speaker 1: your offense, helps everyone, yeah, he's worth the pick. And
Speaker 1: so I loved Alfred Morris's comment last night. We got
Speaker 1: to talk to him at this event and he was like, first, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, he was like, I embraced the competition whatever,
Speaker 1: but he was like, I was excited for my position.
Speaker 1: They've been trying to devalue us for years and these
Speaker 1: guys are showing what a good running back can do
Speaker 1: for a team. All right, Ken, who do you got?
Speaker 1: Do you want to touch on his Lynch question at all?
Speaker 1: Sam's what what about that? He felt like they that?
Speaker 1: I mean he's got I say, he's got a point.
Speaker 1: I mean you can find value at running back. Way
Speaker 1: later in the draft, Rawls filled in for Lynch. Alfred, Oh,
Speaker 1: Paxon Lynch, what was the question? I'm sorry, Well, he's
Speaker 1: talking about men, right, Kent. He's talking about that. He's
Speaker 1: marking Jerry down for the lack of execution for making
Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, right, Yeah, it's something that Jerry will
Speaker 1: be tied to. Oh. Absolutely know we know the facts,
Speaker 1: or you know what we think are the facts reported
Speaker 1: facts of what went on in that war room, how
Speaker 1: they almost went up to go get them. But kind
Speaker 1: of what what they was saying earlier about, maybe not
Speaker 1: everyone in the room was gung ho for Paxson Lynch,
Speaker 1: like everyone was gung ho for Zeke. Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: trade did not happen. They did not give up a
Speaker 1: third round pick to go get I think it's very
Speaker 1: telling that they weren't willing to make that when they
Speaker 1: I mean they literally just did it for Lawrence a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But if if Jerry, and I mean,
Speaker 1: if there was a decent number of people that were
Speaker 1: convinced he's really the guy to handle the job after
Speaker 1: Romo and they didn't give up a two and a three,
Speaker 1: shame on them. I mean, And there's no way to
Speaker 1: know right now. But if that's all at cost and
Speaker 1: they were that sure that he's the guy, that's a
Speaker 1: using steak on their part. And we'll have to wait
Speaker 1: a few years to find out how that plays out. Okay,
Speaker 1: Lee in Atlanta, Lee, go ahead, Hey guys, A couple
Speaker 1: of things real quick. I love to pick a zeke Um.
Speaker 1: Some things that a lot of people don't mention is
Speaker 1: that the guy can run the route tree. I equate
Speaker 1: his skill set to Marshall folks just in the bigger body. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I love the pick. The second round pick. I
Speaker 1: also love because if you're gonna go risk reward, the
Speaker 1: reward of Jalen Smith's getting back to where he was
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. The guy is easily a top three talent
Speaker 1: in the draft, So if the reward is that high,
Speaker 1: then I like it. More than even the Bruce Carter pick,
Speaker 1: you know that was a couple of years ago. So
Speaker 1: great with that as well. I love the overall speed
Speaker 1: that we're bringing to our special teams. I mean, we
Speaker 1: got guys with size running four threes with Brown and Purdue,
Speaker 1: so I love the overall talent. And then the way
Speaker 1: our defensive scheme works with a D line rotation. We
Speaker 1: added four guys tow in free agency to in that
Speaker 1: draft that have a real chance to see the field
Speaker 1: next year. In that rotation, fresh guys bring pass rush,
Speaker 1: especially the fact that I like our D tackles now.
Speaker 1: So I'm extremely happy with our draft. One tip for Dane.
Speaker 1: Check out that Michigan roster next year. It won't quite
Speaker 1: be Ohio States Draft this year, but there could be
Speaker 1: four to five first rounders on that on that team.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, appreciate it ly, Thanks for the call. Okay,
Speaker 1: Peppers come out next year. Peppers and I you know
Speaker 1: this might be a segue, but yeah, we're gonna We're
Speaker 1: take one more call and then I want to get
Speaker 1: here and then and we'll talk about seventeen seventy. We
Speaker 1: can go, can go a little long ago. No, I
Speaker 1: want to take one more call here, then we're gonna
Speaker 1: do Dane's twenty seventeen mock draft. Can't What do you got?
Speaker 1: One of our favorite callers, Mark and Staten Island. Hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing great? All right? Listen dialogue cowboy fan.
Speaker 1: I love this team good to bad. The only negative
Speaker 1: to this draft um that I see is already fifty
Speaker 1: percent of our draft picks we know are not going
Speaker 1: to help the team this year. A two pick, a
Speaker 1: quarterback pick, and this and this tight end project. So
Speaker 1: fifty percent. That's three three out of nine thirty three percent,
Speaker 1: and that's on the assumption that Gabon, Frazier and Brown
Speaker 1: will make an impact this year, whether it be special
Speaker 1: teams or not. So I don't like the fact that
Speaker 1: almost half our picks are not going to help us
Speaker 1: this year. All right, Mark, thanks for the call. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's I think. The only guy we know for
Speaker 1: a fact will not make an impact is Jalen Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that Tony Romo can go down, and
Speaker 1: then Kellen Moore maybe is not effective and Dak prescioll
Speaker 1: I guess a cheat. So ideally you don't want some
Speaker 1: of these guys making an insure but we talked about
Speaker 1: the rotation though too with those defensive linemen. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: guys are gonna get an opportunity. People don't want to
Speaker 1: hear this, maybe, but I don't even look at the
Speaker 1: sixth round guys as draft picks really, I mean their
Speaker 1: priority free agents. That's basically how I view them. If
Speaker 1: they can do something, they got a third round guy
Speaker 1: on my on my board. If they can do something great,
Speaker 1: I mean, Fraser intrigues me. Especially with Barry Church and
Speaker 1: entering a contract year. Gathers is obviously intriguing. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to look back at whether or not this draft
Speaker 1: was successful based on what they do. Okay, Um, that's
Speaker 1: just me, all right, thanks for the call. Thanks to
Speaker 1: everybody that Oh well, I I wanted to play Devil's advocate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we do this every year. It's not necessarily fair. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody loves like Levion Bell went to pick
Speaker 1: after Jovian Escobar. I mean, I I'm rooting like hell
Speaker 1: for Jalen Smith to get everything that he deserves and
Speaker 1: come back stronger. But in a couple of years, you know,
Speaker 1: one of these, you know, Miles Jack, Chris Jones, Avian Howard, Spence.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. If Noah Spence is a twelve sack
Speaker 1: guy in Tampa Bay and Jalen Smith is sitting on
Speaker 1: injured reserve in two years, no doubt, people are not
Speaker 1: gonna be happy. No. I mean, hey, what do we
Speaker 1: do investigating educa we've talked about. Hey, I love the
Speaker 1: fact that every single guy on that run that we
Speaker 1: talked about is a guy that we talked extensively about
Speaker 1: being here. And there's some guys Andson Johnson was one
Speaker 1: of my first initial exactly. Uh so it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, here here's the part of the show
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna really look forward to, is uh Dame
Speaker 1: Burglar is going to go through his uh two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen mock draft that he's putting up today on
Speaker 1: uh yeah CBS. We'll hit a few highlights here, and
Speaker 1: just for everyone, the order is the reverse order of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl odds, So don't complain to me about
Speaker 1: your team's too lower, too high, you know. And see
Speaker 1: where we have the Cowboys taken. We have the Cowboy
Speaker 1: seven damn way up at twenty four. So just just
Speaker 1: going by Super Bowl ods, not trying to predict the
Speaker 1: order here. But number one pick Cleveland Brown's Cody Cusser
Speaker 1: is not going to stop them from taking a quarterback. Uh.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson from Clemson again's top quarterback. He still has
Speaker 1: some room to grow if he stays healthy, He's got
Speaker 1: a chance. Number two Miles Garrett, I mean the von
Speaker 1: Miller comparisons are coming. Not only the A and M connection,
Speaker 1: but he could be special pass rusher. Got a few
Speaker 1: LSU guys coming up here. Jamal Adams the safety all right,
Speaker 1: could be the next Eric Weddle, Dallas native. And then
Speaker 1: at number eight, Leonard Fournette to the Lions. Oh, the
Speaker 1: Lions could be him and boys? Writer who would be
Speaker 1: pumped about that? Yeah? Doulah former one two duo. There
Speaker 1: Desmond Kings in my top ten? Six? Where do you
Speaker 1: got Desmond King going six to the Bucks? Six to
Speaker 1: the Bucks? Ye? Player, I think he could be in that?
Speaker 1: Is he the best? Is he gonna be the best
Speaker 1: corner in the draft? You have him as the highest
Speaker 1: is the highest corner? I think he'll could be. There's
Speaker 1: a couple other corners. Jalen Tabor from Florida, He's he's
Speaker 1: in the Universation. You're trying to tell me the Browns
Speaker 1: are gonna turn their trade with the Eagles into Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson and Dalvin Cook. Yeah, that's nasty the Browns. And
Speaker 1: according to this scenario, the Eagles will be picking ninth,
Speaker 1: which go to the Browns, and I have him taken
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook from Florida States. So I'm talking about revamping
Speaker 1: that offense. Your new big three in Cleveland, Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and Coleman. Wow, that's a lot of speed,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of talent, which will be
Speaker 1: really interesting to watch there. Our color talked about Michigan.
Speaker 1: I've got two Michigan guys in my first round, mock
Speaker 1: job brill Pepper's safety, have him going to the Redskins,
Speaker 1: and then I've got Jake Butt the tight end going
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. Oh no, yeah, So down there at
Speaker 1: twenty nine, they've got a couple of Michigan has a
Speaker 1: few other guys that might sniff the first round. Jordan
Speaker 1: and Lewis. He's five to nine. I think that might
Speaker 1: hurt him in the long run about making the first round.
Speaker 1: And then ju Chessen he's got a chance to make
Speaker 1: the first round. There a couple other highlights here. Let's
Speaker 1: see we have Bright Kaya, the quarterback from Miami Chicago
Speaker 1: pick fourteen, Oj Howard, a tight end. We thought it
Speaker 1: would be a first round. How many how many quarterbacks
Speaker 1: do you have in this? Uh? Three? Okay, right? Kaya
Speaker 1: going for Watson won Kaya fourteen. And then the third
Speaker 1: is u Chad Kelly, the old miss quarterball. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: watched the little tape on him this morning, going twenty
Speaker 1: five to Arizona and Carson Palmer a replacement eventually. So
Speaker 1: for all the running backs, we talked about four Nett
Speaker 1: at eight, a lot of running Dalvin's took at nine,
Speaker 1: and then got Christian McCaffrey going to Oakland. Oh wow, seventeen.
Speaker 1: I think that would be. Okay, here's my here's my
Speaker 1: old scout on McCaffrey. Okay, he reminds me of Eric
Speaker 1: medcalf when he came out from the Cleveland Browns back
Speaker 1: in the day. That your buddy Lombardi love. Yeah, old,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an old, that's an old old. But
Speaker 1: that he that same type of the ability, that open field, purpose,
Speaker 1: all purpose, open field. He might be better than that cap,
Speaker 1: but that was my that's my comparison to him. If
Speaker 1: Indie put Indie puts some O lineman in place this year.
Speaker 1: So if p Ryan actually were to go to the Colts, yeah,
Speaker 1: p Ryan's the fourth running back off the board to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: He'd be the first time since oh eight we'd have
Speaker 1: four running backs first. Imagine that. And I don't have
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb coming off the al Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: he has a chance. And also the Royce Freeman Oregon
Speaker 1: running back he's got a chance as well. I have
Speaker 1: six Alabama players uh in the first round. They this year,
Speaker 1: only one this year. I have six. Yeah. Tim Williams
Speaker 1: simblames game last year that name, but as a pass
Speaker 1: rusher he can be something. Let's see what other highlights
Speaker 1: do we have here? Who did you have Dallas? Take
Speaker 1: Dallas cow was picked number twenty four, like Williams, the
Speaker 1: or the wide receiver from Clemson almost paralyzed. Tell what
Speaker 1: you did last year this time last year, my way
Speaker 1: too early mock draft, a year ahead of time. I
Speaker 1: had one pick right out of thirty two, and as
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys pick in Ezekie Elliott. Okay, but give yourself
Speaker 1: some credit, Dane. You had fourteen of thirty two names
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, and I guarantee you a decent number
Speaker 1: of the names he just said are going to be
Speaker 1: first round picks next year. That's awesome, right and crazy
Speaker 1: the guy he's got Dallas taking a first round talent
Speaker 1: at wide receiver who did not play for them last
Speaker 1: year because he heard himself in Week one. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's crazy. It's far for the course for us. How
Speaker 1: good Clemson could have been? Oh yeah, no, that is
Speaker 1: that is true? All right, Well listen, that's the music
Speaker 1: for one last time. Once again. I just want to
Speaker 1: thank I just want to thank everybody out there for
Speaker 1: falling along. I just it's so nice that we can
Speaker 1: have the interaction that we do with the fans, whether
Speaker 1: it's on Twitter, whether it's on the things that calls
Speaker 1: all that. We appreciate you the way that you guys
Speaker 1: have embraced the Draft Show, and we look forward to
Speaker 1: it once again doing this again next year, hopefully, hopefully,
Speaker 1: hopefully I won't get to start on it on December first.
Speaker 1: Let's start in like January February. Yeah, we will, but
Speaker 1: but the Draft Show once again will be the uh,
Speaker 1: the the All Star Games, the combine but we'll be
Speaker 1: with you here every week and talking about these guys.
Speaker 1: Thanks for everyone, yea exactly, Thank you and I want
Speaker 1: to thank you to you guys, Dame Bugler, thanks for
Speaker 1: David Hell, and I want to thank Ken Garrison as well.
Speaker 1: And we will see you guys next time in for
Speaker 1: the Draft Show from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. This is
Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football
Speaker 1: Club