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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on your war room for insider news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rant,

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand and Joe and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: we get to come back at you one more time

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Speaker 1: and welcome everybody to the Trap Show. Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: along with Dan Brugler from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: First off, Chillman, I didn't get a chance to thank

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Speaker 1: both of you together. Dane you were gone and uh

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Speaker 1: are you were I was gone, you were gone, and

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Speaker 1: Dames here. But thank you for all the weekend work.

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Speaker 1: Thank you think that was fun. That was fifteen hours

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Speaker 1: of coverage on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This might be

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Speaker 1: ed Ka Hill's idea, but it has become your baby,

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Speaker 1: and it's I mean, I think you're largely responsibi for

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Speaker 1: what it has become. I'm really happy that you know

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Speaker 1: that that Guys like Matt O'Neill and and uh and

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Speaker 1: then Derek Eagleton and those guys. Let us do this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I appreciate the fans. I mean, your

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Speaker 1: your efforts and your initiative. Get them on. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun, a lot of fun. Fans go think

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Speaker 1: Derek and and those guys. Exactly, let us do this

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Speaker 1: and exactly. I think the thing I was the most

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Speaker 1: proud of was we got to mister irrelevant and you

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Speaker 1: fired a you fired a full scouting report at them.

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Speaker 1: It picked two player, and the first thing you said

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Speaker 1: was this guy doesn't deserve to be mister irellan. He

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Speaker 1: will be anything but exact promise you. I just I

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Speaker 1: hate that tradition just by the way. That's it's rude,

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Speaker 1: it's really you know, but they get something out of

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Speaker 1: it though. It's like a book. Yeah, and it's seriously

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's it's a big deal, a

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Speaker 1: big parade telling them that they're irrelevant. Oh, it's just

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Speaker 1: kind of a it's you know that you know how

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Speaker 1: football players are too, Like every guy that gets drafted

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Speaker 1: is hardwired to think that you know, these guys team Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, but it's but it's okay, and

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Speaker 1: it's funny that this normally that pick they know what

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Speaker 1: team is going to be because they can't trade that pick.

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Speaker 1: But this year there were no seventh round comps. No comps,

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Speaker 1: so I was traded and they had a Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: was a little disconjointed there, but I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: was I'll tell you what's neat. Though I don't like

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Speaker 1: the seventh round compensatory picks, I like the way it went.

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that you could have you could

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Speaker 1: have fired a pick next year's pick at one of

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Speaker 1: those teams at the bottom and tried to get back

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Speaker 1: in that thing. I mean, maybe there's somebody you don't

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Speaker 1: want to deal with, you know, on free agency and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, but anyway, but uh, that's that

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. And I thank you guys

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Speaker 1: h for all your hard work on that. And again

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Speaker 1: I thank everybody out there who followed along with us. Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about a little bit. We talked

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Speaker 1: teams did too, sure, you know, and I also want

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Speaker 1: to at the end of this UM, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. I want to take some calls

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Speaker 1: today eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: I want to get some of you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: a fan of another team, if you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, if you want to fire a question at us.

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Speaker 1: We've got Twitter, which Dave handled all all all the

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Speaker 1: draft shows we've done. We got that opportunity. I do

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Speaker 1: want to take some calls because I want to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts and to finish this thing. Dane has already

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Speaker 1: done his twenty seventeen mock draft, which is going to

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Speaker 1: be up. Is it up right now on CBS anyway? Okay,

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Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen mock draft and uh and and go

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Speaker 1: because if we believe everything in that article, boys were

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Speaker 1: he'll say, hey, lemonades. Yeah, he'll say hey, listen. You

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Speaker 1: know you're you're your owner. GM made a fair offer.

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Speaker 1: We just couldn't. We had to take the Denver deal.

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Speaker 1: I need to find out too, because I kept bragging

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Speaker 1: about and twenty twenty being a spot. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean Mike mcagnan. You know, Mike sat in there

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Speaker 1: He took Darren Lee, the linebacker from from Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: And you're sitting there thinking, Okay, could he got a

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Speaker 1: passed on Derek Lee? Or was Derekly that valuable too?

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Speaker 1: And I do wonder that, and you know, thinking back

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Speaker 1: I have to assume that that fifth year option played

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Speaker 1: a big role for the Seahawks too. Oh, no, doubt,

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Speaker 1: maybe they jo doubt. I think I'd rather have Denverse

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, granted, twenty five spots higher, but

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Speaker 1: also the I don't think Seattle wanted to lose a Fetti.

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Speaker 1: on him from Baylor unless you want to put on

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Speaker 1: the basketball tape. You know, that's the point of the

428
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Speaker 1: draft when you take chances on these types of guys.

429
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Speaker 1: Twenty six teams went to his workout. Yeah, that's what

430
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that that's why they did that. Absolutely. That

431
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Speaker 1: was the one thing when I asked about Gathers, it

432
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Speaker 1: was we just did not want to take a chance

433
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Speaker 1: to have to fight for him at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day. And the fact that they didn't have a

435
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Speaker 1: seventh round pick made it made sense there. And uh,

436
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay with that kind of stuff. I have

437
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Speaker 1: no problem. How about the Derris Jackson though from Eastern Michigan,

438
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: any thoughts. I sat down and watched a little tape

439
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: at him. The thing I liked about him was the

440
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Speaker 1: fact how he finished. There's a lot of runs where

441
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Speaker 1: you know, he burst through the hole and had six

442
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: foot two hundred and twenty pounds. You know, four three

443
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 1: two speed is what four three eight speed? Three protect? Yeah,

444
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: so you know, and and you saw a guy when

445
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Speaker 1: you know, when I watched the cut up that the

446
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 1: scouts went through, you know, that opened up and he

447
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: was through. And then there were times when he was

448
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 1: finishing physical, protected the football. A couple of times they

449
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: threw him the ball in the swings and stuff. And

450
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: by the way, I got the scouting reports up on

451
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Encourage you to encourage you to

452
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Speaker 1: look at those. But you know, the thing about it is,

453
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Speaker 1: though there were a couple of times where I felt

454
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Speaker 1: like though there was some concentration, problems with drops, easy

455
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: stuff underneath, stuff to the side. He seemed pretty good

456
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Speaker 1: at there was a couple of times they ran him

457
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Speaker 1: on some Texas stuff inside where he lost the concentration.

458
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Speaker 1: He's going to have to develop though, as a pass

459
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Speaker 1: blocker because the efforts there, the head goes down a

460
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Technique that stuff Gary Brown will work on

461
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: and on special teams. I think that's we're really mean.

462
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Jackson's gonna have to stand out. And absolutely he was

463
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Speaker 1: drafted based on trades basically sixth rounds, right, and when

464
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Speaker 1: you talk about a player that he didn't do much

465
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Speaker 1: the first three years, you know, but as a senior

466
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Speaker 1: of a thousand yards rush, I really kind of emerged

467
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: and so I was encouraged. But I think, yeah, what

468
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Speaker 1: he did at his pro day is really the big

469
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: reason he got drafted. And so you know, I wrote

470
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Speaker 1: him up. I wrote Rico gathers up in the book,

471
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Speaker 1: and so I was happy it was not cut off

472
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Speaker 1: guard by a swim this year. Yeah, that was a

473
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Speaker 1: way to go. Hey, victory, you got it as a victory,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm no sorry, go ahead, Eastern Michigan. You you assume

475
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Speaker 1: something about the level of talent not to mention the

476
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: level of competition, right. I didn't think about this on

477
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Speaker 1: draft day because so much was going on. He played

478
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Speaker 1: our LSU Tigers last year. They threw him into the

479
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: line like twenty times, and he's grinding out yards and

480
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Speaker 1: finishing against you know, much much better competition and what

481
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Speaker 1: you would expect. So I was impressed when I I

482
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: think he ran. I think he ran nineteen times for

483
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Speaker 1: sixty five or seventy yards in a touchdown in tough

484
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Speaker 1: yards against LSU. Yeah, that's that's pretty impressive. Okay, we're

485
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Speaker 1: gonna focus in on some of the likes and dislikes

486
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Speaker 1: of this draft. When we went around, we were that

487
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Speaker 1: was the one thing that our draft coverage I felt

488
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Speaker 1: like that, you know, we it was we had the

489
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Speaker 1: cowboy side of it here, but then we had let's

490
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Speaker 1: make sure we cover this entire draft foot some of

491
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Speaker 1: your takeaways, though, I mean, did you have somebody that

492
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Speaker 1: you really really like? Did you have the top five?

493
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Speaker 1: Did you have somebody that you know, Wow, these guys

494
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Speaker 1: off my board, and that's really what you're basing this

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Speaker 1: off of. And and I hate throwing the draft grade

496
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Speaker 1: out there. People asked me for the draft grade, and

497
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: I reminded him of the story of John Gohler who

498
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Speaker 1: told me I had the worst draft in the history

499
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Speaker 1: of the National Football League and for the eight picks

500
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. So draft grades, no, just ask

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Speaker 1: me what happens to three years now. But is there

502
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Speaker 1: somebody just looking at your board how it was drafted.

503
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Speaker 1: Would you've drafted it this way or that? Yeah? And

504
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't think just like you. I don't I don't

505
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: do any I don't do draft grades. But what I

506
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: do is a no down like my top five. You

507
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: know the teams that I thought really got better with

508
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: what they did. Cincinnati Bengals stand out first and foremost,

509
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: and they didn't make a single trade. They stayed at

510
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Speaker 1: pick at in every seven, in each of the seven rounds,

511
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Speaker 1: and they stayed there. They took their guy, let the

512
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Speaker 1: board fall into them, and that that's kind of what

513
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Speaker 1: they believe. In Dallas. Jerry Jones, in his tenure as

514
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Speaker 1: the general manager owner general manager for the Dallas Cowboys,

515
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Speaker 1: has made a trade with all teams. Cincinnati is the

516
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Speaker 1: only team he has never made a trade with. And

517
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Speaker 1: that's what they do. They just tried to this year.

518
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Speaker 1: They just yeah, they get up into that late first round,

519
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: but they weren't budget they picked. They just all they do.

520
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: But and then they took William Jackson the first round,

521
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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd in the second, Nick Vigil and the third,

522
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Speaker 1: and then Andrew Billings and the fourth Christian Westerman. We

523
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: got to figure out what happened Andrew Billings. Those five

524
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Speaker 1: guys right there in the first five rounds. Yeah, I

525
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Speaker 1: think those guys will start at some point in the

526
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Speaker 1: next two years for Cincinnatis. I think that's a home

527
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Speaker 1: run um Jacksonville to me, we talked about Miles jack

528
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Speaker 1: in the second, Jalen Ramsey and the first like what

529
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Speaker 1: they did with on defense, Sheldon Day, Tyron Holmes, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Brandon and Allen can be a cel at number two.

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Speaker 1: So Jacksonville I thought killed it Minnesota with Laquon Treadwell, McKenzie,

532
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: Alexander Uh, not the biggest Willie Beavers fan. But then

533
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Speaker 1: they come back and then he said that during the draft.

534
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Speaker 1: Come back in the fifth with Kenshall Brothers. Uh, you

535
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: know he for eight, but the guy just the instincts

536
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: are there, so it makes up for the speed. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are in that conversation the Ravens. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm not I wasn't a big

539
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Speaker 1: fan of Ronnie Stanley. Yeah, but uh, you know, I'll

540
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Speaker 1: tell you with the Ray. I'll tell you with in

541
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Speaker 1: Ravens right where I thought I thought their picks were

542
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Speaker 1: better from one thirty four to two oh nine because

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Speaker 1: I think when they hit at one Kenneth, they get

544
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Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon. The my board is a two Matt Jerdawn

545
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Speaker 1: Is was it was a third round pick. Uh, the

546
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Speaker 1: quarterback from Navy. You know that's that's Azzi. You know,

547
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Speaker 1: congratulations on that. Uh Marcus, you know candidate Maris cannidately

548
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Speaker 1: Maurice Cannidate, that guy, you know, fourth round pick on

549
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Speaker 1: my board. So yeah, I felt like that the Ravens

550
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Speaker 1: did a little bit better. Did you Buffalo do anything

551
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: for you at all? Buffalo is my fifth team. You

552
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: look at Shack Lawson in the first, Reggie Raglan in

553
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: the second, two first round, two first round grades, a

554
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Speaker 1: Dolphins Washington third round grade on my Cardell Jones, and

555
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: the fourth future Hall of Famer. Yeah it's a Dolphin's Washington.

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00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah he's okay, but no, with Cardell, he's going to

557
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: a good situation, meaning he won't have to get on

558
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: the field this year. How about how about Jonathan Williams there?

559
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean that was your guy. Worry about the foot

560
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: issue moving forward, you know, especially at the running back position.

561
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: But in the fifth, take a chance on a guy

562
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: like that Colby Listing being the six. Come on Seymour

563
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: in the six. See Seymour, I had a third round

564
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: grade on and you're getting that guy in the six.

565
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo did a nice job there as well. Uh, just

566
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Speaker 1: kind of okay, anybody else you got there, Dame? Those

567
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: are my top five and you know who else? I

568
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: know A couple of the teams stood off for you? Yeah,

569
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Speaker 1: I mean I I was kind of thinking that green Bay.

570
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: Green Bay was but I felt like on my board,

571
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Speaker 1: and I know you weren't a huge fan of Floyd,

572
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: but but but the Chicago Bears, Yeah, Chicago Bears went Hair. Yeah,

573
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Speaker 1: they went Floyd and then they went white Hair and

574
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: then Bullard. Yeah. On my board, those were three, all

575
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: three second round picks. So you know that's not a

576
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: bad Uh. The linebacker from West Virginia, you know, you know,

577
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: you can I can live without that one. But Jordan

578
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Howard I thought in the fifth round was at fourth

579
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Speaker 1: round value. And then Braverman, the wider's here from Western Michigan,

580
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: they got into seventh round. I thought he was a

581
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Speaker 1: sixth round guy, so that was kind of Uh, let

582
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Speaker 1: me look, I'm looking just kind of looking through the

583
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Speaker 1: ones I'm marked down here, Dave, you have any thoughts

584
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: on something? Yeah, I got y'all have touched on a

585
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: lot of ones. I like Jacksonville stands out to me

586
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: specifically just because they basically did like the bizarro Cowboys draft. Right.

587
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: They took Ramsey, who was probably the guy if Zeke wasn't,

588
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: And then they took Miles jack who is like the

589
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: exact opposite of Jalen Smith and right, top five talent.

590
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: He can play now, he might not be able to

591
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: play later, So I'm fascinated to see how that turns out.

592
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Speaker 1: I'm also fascinated at the thought of, you know, Jacksonville

593
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: having three top ten type of talents joining their defense

594
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: at the same time when you throw in Dante Dollar. Yeah,

595
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: the one that I liked that you haven't mentioned. We

596
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: give fans a lot of grief from time to time

597
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: because they think and behave as though this were a

598
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: game of Madden, and you have to that's not the

599
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: way this works, you know. But the Houston Texans drafted

600
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Speaker 1: like they were playing Madden, and I actually really loved it.

601
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they spend seventy two million dollars on a

602
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: quarterback they don't know if he's any good, and Bill

603
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien just says, you know what, I'm gonna do

604
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: everything I can to make this easy on you. And

605
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: they go get Will Fuller. They get Nick Martin, who's

606
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: probably the second best center in the draft. They go

607
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: get Braxton Miller, right, he kind of faded down the stretch,

608
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: but everybody was super high on him. They got him

609
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: in the third round. And then they get Tyler Irvin,

610
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: who will go out the Senior Bowl shifty little you know.

611
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Um kind of reminds me of not I mean, maybe

612
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: not the same type of player, but they had Steve

613
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: Slayton there a few years back, and I think he

614
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: feels a lot of the same type as that. And

615
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: so you spent that kind of money on a quarterback, Well,

616
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: he's lee, I mean, and all these guys are joining

617
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and Lamar Miller who were already down there.

618
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: So if brock Osweiler is not successful, it's gonna be

619
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Speaker 1: on him. They've set him up to succeed. And I

620
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: was told that Braxon Miller if they didn't get Will

621
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: Fuller and round one, Braxon Miller was the guy they're

622
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: looking at round two. And then the fact that he

623
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: was still on the board for them in round three.

624
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: They couldn't help themselves. Let's you know, five, Yeah, why not, Braxon?

625
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Come on, let's let's go make I have some fun

626
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: on off the off, the the Brian broadest board. Will

627
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: Fuller the two. Martin was a three, Braxton Miller was

628
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: a two. He talked about Urban he was a fit

629
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: of five for me. And then but the guy like

630
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: DJ Reader you talked about all the offensive readers. DJ

631
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: Reader I had as a third rounder. Yeah, he might

632
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: take you know when Vince Wolfoor, Yeah, get out of

633
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: their readers. That's a big that's a big man with

634
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: a nice grade inside. Right the other I just I

635
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I'm not maybe it's not the best drafting

636
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: strategy in the world, but I love it when teams

637
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: are like, this is our problem and we're gonna fix it.

638
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Speaker 1: Base Carolina drafted three cornerbacks this year. Yeah, and you know,

639
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: they probably don't need that many, but they're gonna make

640
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: sure they find Norman's replacement. At least that's the hope.

641
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: And uh, Seattle did the same thing. I mean, they

642
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: took Effettie, they took Odeambo, and I think the third

643
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: round the tackle let's see, they it was a relatively

644
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: high pick. And then Thomas Rawls is obviously coming back

645
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: off a broken leg. You lose Marshaw Lynch to retirement,

646
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: so what do they do? They draft like two top

647
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: one hundred type running backs because they'll pro Sits and

648
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: Alex Collins. They'll be damned if they're gonna miss Marshawn

649
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: Lynch basically, and they and they also here's another one

650
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: that we at nauseum. We were talking about Kenny Lawler,

651
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: ya know, at the seventh round. Yeah, I forgot all

652
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, we're trying to we're trying to take

653
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: this draft to the finish line. At two forty three,

654
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: they picked Kenny Lawler. Remember that another day, Bryan Bryan

655
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: was Brian was talking to somebody after the draft about

656
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: the picks and who they liked and who they didn't like,

657
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: and he say He was like, just just remember me

658
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: right now telling you that Kenny Lawler is gonna catch

659
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: about eighty balls for them, Yeah, very soon. Kenny Lawlers

660
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: was not the two y third best player. He wasn't me.

661
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: That's see. That's the thing about it is and and

662
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: the fact that they got it. They got Jaron Reid.

663
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: That's another one of those names that you know when

664
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Speaker 1: you look, you know, I have fetty. I wasn't. I

665
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: had him like as a fourth round guy, probably too

666
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: low on him. But I will say this though, when

667
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: you come back and you hit a on my board,

668
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: you go read procise. You know that right there you

669
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: got my attention that all of a sudden, it's like, okay,

670
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: you might have liked this offensive tackle light, but you

671
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: know what you brought me back in with those two picks.

672
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: Did you text John and tell him like, way to go?

673
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: And he didn't. He didn't need to hear that from me.

674
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: He didn't. I'll tell you what I like what Tampa

675
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: did you know? We talked about hard Graves and potentially

676
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: you know what the pitfalls of him up for a kicker.

677
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't like that at all. That's not a

678
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: big face, but I'll tell you what. Noah Spence Noah

679
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: Spence at at two thirty nine, and then they got

680
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Smith at four one oh eight. Okay, here we go.

681
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Peter King actually blew me away with a stat in

682
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: his story today, which I mean, Aguio has been a

683
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: great college kicker for basically his entire career. I think

684
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: he's probably worth being drafted fairly high, given how successfully

685
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: is He only hit on seventy two percent of his

686
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: kicks over forty yards, which that's just not good to me.

687
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, And in the NFL, any anybody, anybody good

688
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: enough to make an NFL roster can hit his kicks

689
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: from insight forty What you're paying for is those long kicks. Yeah,

690
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, that's that's scary to me that they

691
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: traded up to spend a second round pick on a

692
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: guy who's shaky from long distance at the same time

693
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: an accurate quarterback. You know, whether it's extra points or whatever.

694
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: We've seen plenty of kickers miss within forty yards, you think,

695
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's something too that consistency. And uh from

696
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: my Aguio report, he was perfect forty nine for forty

697
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: nine within forty yards, So I think that consistency is

698
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: a big reason. But no, you're right, because he doesn't

699
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: have a power leg. His career best is a fifty.

700
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be elevation. He's a chip, you know. It's

701
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: just like a golfer, right exactly. He gets that that

702
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: lift and it looks pretty. But in terms of a

703
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: power leg, that's not him, that's not his game. Tell

704
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: me what you think about this draft. This was this

705
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: is when I start because Conklin at one eight over tounsil,

706
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Dodd at two thirty three, Austin Johnson at three

707
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: forty three, Derek Henry at three forty five. See, those

708
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: are the picks we wanted. Remember we were five, yeah, two,

709
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two forty five. Remember we were trying, like

710
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: heck and Dallas is gonna drop down if if they're

711
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna go get somebody like shack Loss and if they're

712
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: gonna go remember when remember when initially tenant uh that

713
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: that that those picks belong to the Rams who were trying,

714
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: Like as soon as as soon as they picked Henry

715
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: to go with Conklin and Johnson and Dodd, I mean

716
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: as soon as you have just those guys, and they

717
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: made more picks, but just those guys. I was like,

718
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: I see why they wanted to trade. I'd rather have

719
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: that than Jared Goffs. I mean, especially if I already

720
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: had Marke Mariota Good and and and then Kevin Ballard

721
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: the safety. Yeah you know, I mean he was taken

722
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: in the third at three sixty four. I had a

723
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: fourth round grade Taja Sharpe from Massive from you Mask.

724
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: You'd seen him in some All Star Game stuff. Yeah, yeah, Look,

725
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: this film looked better at you Mass than it did

726
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: at those All Star Games. I don't know if it

727
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: was maybe you know, he'd played in that competitional help. Yeah,

728
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: but he's a good player. You remember, like five or

729
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: six years ago when the Seahawks won the NFC West

730
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: at seven and nine and beat the Saints, and yeah,

731
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: but it was like a joke of a division. But

732
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Carol got there and Harbaugh got there, and you could

733
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of see like things were trending upwards. Now it's

734
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: a really tough division. Yeah, I'm calling it now that

735
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: the AFC South is about to be got to be

736
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: the Beast East mode. How about how does this when

737
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: all those teams look like they have taken significant steps

738
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: start getting does anyway, is just doing the for anybody?

739
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner, Josh Garnett, those corners, Will Redman right there,

740
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: Roson Robinson from Ella's Shoe, those corners run or something

741
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: about Ronald Blair. I mean, we've talked about your guy.

742
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: That's the one I'm gonna keep an eye on. That

743
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: pick was made at five one forty two right there.

744
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: Do you like him in that defense? That's that's gonna

745
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: be don't fit. But we'll see this should probably just

746
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: too much, too much value. But then Kelvin Taylor also

747
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: the running back at six two eleven. I mean, that's

748
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: a physical guy right there as well. Okay, well let's

749
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: do this. We're gonna take our I'm gonna get at

750
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: you real quick. Go And this is hard to do,

751
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: I know, But I mean if you're just looking through

752
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: a list like you're doing right now, and you pull

753
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: out the Cowboys, nine guys, yeah, and how you feeling

754
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: about it? Well, that's what I'm saying. I was we've

755
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: talked so much about the Cowboys, but I'm looking at

756
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: my board and how I had it, How I had

757
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: it great? And now again the second round pick I

758
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: had as a guy that I would because of the injury,

759
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: you would say, well, maybe we consider it one eighty nine.

760
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna happen. Where'd you have Collins? Because this

761
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: is my I had Collins in the fourth night. There's

762
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: a good chance he would have been there for them

763
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: in the forest. Yeah, and I have boysmans don't want

764
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: to hear that, but yeah, well they're hearing it right

765
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: now because it's true. And then I had Collins in

766
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: the fourth, and then I had Tapper in the fifth,

767
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: which they took in the fourth. You know again, that

768
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: might be the scheme prom Dak Prescott I had in

769
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: the fourth. See the Anthony Brown one is the one

770
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: that said which one do you like? I'll take Anthy

771
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: Brown because I had it. I had him in the

772
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: third round. Their entire sixth round, I thought that was

773
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Frazier was a five on my board. So yeah, we'll

774
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: see Elliot. Of course, this is my second best player

775
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: on the board, so give him some credit for that.

776
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: But it's tough. Well see, let's see what it sounds

777
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: like a cop out. It's just everything about it makes

778
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: it tough to great. I mean, if Collins turns out

779
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: to be good nobody's gonna care that the hit that

780
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: he went around early. That's the thing. And honestly, it's

781
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: the first two picks. I think your first two round picks,

782
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: which are expected to be starters in this day and age,

783
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: are the only ones where you can really sit there

784
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: and say, like, this was good, this was a mistake.

785
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: This team has had some trouble in that second round though,

786
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean they've had a lot of trouble in the

787
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: second round. They've also had a lot of trouble in

788
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: the later rounds. Absolutely, we'll see it. Maybe it'll turn around. Okay,

789
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break today and then we

790
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: will come back. I want to take some calls. I

791
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: maybe wanted two. Also hit a couple of teams that

792
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: we didn't like. You know, I've got one in mind

793
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: that I really didn't like them. We'll see, and she's

794
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: a pretty good drafting team. So we'll be right back

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00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,960
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Speaker 1: We've talked about the Cowboys, but kind of just kind

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00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: NFC East team, if you would. I think with the Giants, uh,

848
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: the first round pick, I think they wanted Leonard Floyd.

849
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: Then the Bears leap frogged him, so they went with

850
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: their second best option. A little bit of a panic

851
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: move toke Eli Apple seems like a reach. It does,

852
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, two three years from now,

853
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: we could be looking back at saying, you know what,

854
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: he was worth a pick um. You know, he's more

855
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: of a development guy, and that's fine. I think down

856
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: the road it'll be worth the pick. Sure, Sterling Shepherd

857
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: in the second that's as a darn good pick. It's

858
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be tough for defenses to cover both

859
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: him and Beckham right. Uh and if Cruz ever gets

860
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: back to what he used to be, Giants have something

861
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: something shaken there. Darian Thompson, B. J. Goodson. Maybe these

862
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: guys pushed for starting roles start with the Giants. Paul

863
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: Perkins not a huge fan of his run style, but

864
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: I think he fits kind of what they want to do,

865
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: and that's running back by committee. So Paul Perkins, I

866
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: think it's a good landing spot for him. Big fan

867
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: of the Darrell Adams pick too. Yes, also at tight end,

868
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: he could be something down the road for them. The Redskins.

869
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: Josh Dockson, Yeah, there you go, that's an excellent pick

870
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: up for them. Suet Cravens eager to see how he

871
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: is used because he's just a darn good football player.

872
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Uh So, but if you draft him, you had to

873
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: have a plan for him. Kendall Fuller I stealed in

874
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: the third round. If he ever gets back too close

875
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: to full health, and then then you like what they

876
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: did on Day three with Matt Ianitas, Steven Daniels, some

877
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: defensive guys, So I think that would make a lot

878
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: of sense for them. And then who else are we

879
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: looking at? Philadelphia? Philadelphia obviously their draft hinges On. Yeah,

880
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: you talk about the Cowboys draft hinging on smart, Right,

881
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: how about that hinges on Carson Wentz. Uh, you know

882
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: what when we might not see him at all this year? Right?

883
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: So I think for the Eagles draft, we're talking down

884
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: the road and how Carson Wentz ends up that. I

885
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: like what they did in round three Isaac Samalo. To me,

886
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: he was a top one hundred pick and they took

887
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: up with seventy nine. That's great value to me, center guard.

888
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: He could play both some decent pickups on later in

889
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: the draft in the seventh round. Two SEC players that

890
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: stand out, Jalen Mills, Alex mccalliser. Two guys with some

891
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: questionable off field character concerns, but put them on the field,

892
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: they can play. They might be able to carve out

893
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: a role with the Philadelphia Okay, well that's going around

894
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: the NFC East. I'll kind of just real quick. I

895
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about a team that I felt like,

896
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, I was surprised about their draft and AFC North. Yeah,

897
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: the AFC North. Then the Cowboys do face the Steelers

898
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: and I and I have a ton of respect for

899
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert and that scouting staff and your buddy, the

900
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: head coach there. I mean, I he is my friend.

901
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: But I thought that was a kind of a strange

902
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: draft for them. You know, usually there were those teams

903
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: that gets great value with their pick, and I thought

904
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: that they were a little bit when they when they

905
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: went early, they weren't as good. I think there's gonna

906
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: be some questions about the Already Burns pick. Yeah, you know,

907
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: and I might be dead wrong about this, but Already

908
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: Burns at one twenty five, Sean Davis at two fifty eight,

909
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, say what you want and maybe more about uh,

910
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say measurables, but maybe about speed. But

911
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure did gra him as a

912
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: safety or a corner? Graham is a safety? I agree,

913
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably what they did too. Uh,

914
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: the Hardgraves kid. We've talked about him from uh, you know,

915
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: from the our days of you helping him at the

916
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and getting him on. You know, I didn't

917
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: really feel like that he was a third round player.

918
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you thought differently right there. That

919
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: was my favorite pick of the Steelers draft. Yeah, and

920
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: then and then Gerald Hawkins Dave our Lsu buddy tackle

921
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: goes four one twenty three. You know, so, I mean

922
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: I was a little I was. I thought if you

923
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: look at the last day, getting men Cavid hit seventeen

924
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: forty six was probably one of those things where you go, wow, Okay,

925
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: you don't feel great about Harby Burns, but Tyler made

926
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: Cavic is gonna be so you know, maybe maybe the Steelers,

927
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: I you know, they they've proven me wrong before and

928
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: so we'll see. All right, Kent Garrison, Hey, welcome to

929
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you, sir. Okay, we're gonna try and

930
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: line up some calls if we could. Is that possible

931
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: right now? Are we that as possible? We have one

932
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: holding as we speak. Okay, Well, guys, we're doing great.

933
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: Everybody's happy. We got a little rest on Sunday, kind

934
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: of got recharged, watched the little NASCAR, a little hockey.

935
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: We're all good. Uh so we're all doing great, So

936
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: we'll just take the calls. Kent, it's all yours. Yeah,

937
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: Ron and Virginia has been holding Ron going, Ron, go ahead, Hey,

938
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing great? Hey, y'all touched on

939
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: the subject a little bit. I just want to get

940
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: your opinion, Dave and Brian opinion. Who would you picked

941
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: out of Jalen Smith and Miles Jack for somebody who

942
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't guarantee to play this season? Okay? Uh? I mean,

943
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: and we know we've known how the Cowboys have felt,

944
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: yeah for a while now. But I think I would

945
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: take my chance on the guy who can play now. Yeah,

946
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: me too. I think we all agree on that. I

947
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: think Miles Jack, I mean next to me, And if

948
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: both guys were healthy, that would be a great debate

949
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: if both guys were healthy. But you know, to me,

950
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: Miles Jack was my number one player. I have a

951
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: history of this. I have a history of taking linebackers

952
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: that play a long time. I had a history of

953
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guard tackle that had a bad

954
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: shoulder that played a long time. So you talk about,

955
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: you know, maximizing the Romo window. Right, If Miles Jack

956
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: can play thirty two games at his highest level and

957
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: then he's done, that might help you win a Super

958
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Bowl here hypothetical, Okay, we would rather have Miles Jack.

959
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: If I tell you he will play four years in

960
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: this league and then he'll be done, but he'll play

961
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: those four years at the level that you scouted him

962
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: on film, right, Or you could have Jalen Smith who

963
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: will come back, but he won't be quite what he

964
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: used to be. And you know, maybe he'll be a

965
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: solid starter, but he won't be what years because I'm

966
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: just gonna keep trying to draft. And we talked about

967
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: this like back when we when we first started talking

968
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: about this, I mean linebacker. It reminds me a lot

969
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: of running back in the way like it is a

970
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: it is a physical How many years did Patrick Willis play? Seven?

971
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: He was drafted? What in seven? Right? He was part

972
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: of the Yeah, because he was part of the right

973
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: I think it was it was six or seven something

974
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: like that him in front of I didn't mean almost

975
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: pausitive as o seven he was drafted, So, um, yeah

976
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah. Seven, he's thirty one years old

977
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: and he's not playing football anymore. Yeah, I mean so

978
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: four obviously seven years is almost double four. But still

979
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: if you're giving me four years of Miles Jack at

980
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to be at one of the most

981
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: physical positions in football, right, Hell yeah, you draft players

982
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: for the rookie contracts you do if you're able to

983
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: extend them that they must have done a heck of

984
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: a job. Great, but you draft players for the rookie conners,

985
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: just like running back, linebackers, not a position rolling around,

986
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: cornerback and tackle or like really the only positions where

987
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: you want a guy to play more than seven or

988
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: so years. Okay, kid, you got Sam and san Antonio

989
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: and quarterback obviously Sam Hey. But as I want to say,

990
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, based on you know, what the Cowboys

991
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: did in the first round, I would I would value evaluate,

992
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: I would grade them. If I was gonna give him

993
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: a grade, i'd give him a D. Only because not

994
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: because I don't think that the running back is a

995
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: great player. I think he's a great player. But I

996
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: think we went in, we invested the top top five

997
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: picks in the most expendable position that there is in

998
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: all of sports. It's a running back. You know you talked,

999
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: you touched on it earlier when you talked about the

1000
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: kid from Rollynch from UH Seattle. He was their best

1001
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: back by far. They did not miss Marshall Lynch while

1002
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: he was out there, and he was out there help

1003
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: now he got hurt, and obviously that's that's attributed to

1004
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: the positions that he plays. In and obviously we can

1005
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: see the same thing you know transpire with Elliott. We

1006
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: hope he doesn't. But also I say, I'll give him

1007
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: a reason why I gave him a deed is because

1008
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: the same thing that Jerry done regrets about about not

1009
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: actually getting the deal done with pact the lych Okay,

1010
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Sam. Appreciate that we've talked about

1011
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: the value of the running back position. And you know,

1012
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: to me, my trump card to that because I get it.

1013
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: I understand that argument absolutely. My trump card to that is,

1014
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: who else are you drafting a four who will translate

1015
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: to more wins over the next three years? You're Tony

1016
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: Roman Window and more production. To me, that's Ezekie Elliott.

1017
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: If you're if the goal out of the draft is

1018
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the fine players who will help you win games, Ezekiel

1019
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: Elliot will do that more than Jalen Ramsey will. He

1020
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: will do that more than Leonard Floyd will. And so

1021
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: for me, that's the trump card. Zeke will translate to

1022
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: more wins than any other player you take up a

1023
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: number four. I also I love Jalen Ramsey a lot.

1024
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: I think he would have been good here too. I

1025
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: don't trust that this team would use him to maximize

1026
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: his ability. Jalen rams You already have a guy like that,

1027
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey has your first round pick loss. Jalen Ramsey

1028
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: as a quarter true. Do you feel better about Jamie

1029
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: as a corner or Zeke is a running back? Zeke

1030
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: is run close? Yeah, that's the argument. But I mean,

1031
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: if you get I do get what he's trying to say.

1032
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: I understand. No no, I'm saying no no. I Hey,

1033
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 1: we appreciate Sam always. I wouldn't. I would argue, and

1034
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: he's He's right. Rawls was great last year. Marshawn Lynch

1035
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: is at the tail end of his career after a

1036
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: very productive career in Seattle and Buffalo too, but mainly Seattle,

1037
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: where I would argue he was the second most important

1038
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: part of that offense, being super Bowl caliber behind Russell Wilson. Right,

1039
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: he was their identity and you talk, I mean DeMarco

1040
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: Murray was their identity for about two years here. And

1041
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: if you can get Ali, if you can get five

1042
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: years and people want again, people want the extra contract, whatever.

1043
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: If you can get five years of Zeke at what

1044
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be, I think it'd make a far

1045
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: bigger difference than a lot of guys that got picked

1046
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: up in five years from now, the rookie five years now,

1047
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: the running back number will be lower for that if

1048
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: you have to get that fifth year no, because we

1049
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: remember we were talking about because guys are starting to

1050
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: get less and less second contract exactly. So maybe that

1051
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: number will be lower, you know, in five years from now,

1052
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: if you when you when you have to make that option. Yeah,

1053
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: maybe the number isn't eleven million dollars dollars. I think

1054
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: I think the option for a running back right now

1055
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: is like nine. Yeah, and maybe it won't. Maybe it won't.

1056
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: Just go back to last year. Todd Gurley, he was

1057
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: taking tenth overall, right, if we could redo that draft

1058
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: to guarantee he goes higher than tenth, yeah, no, no,

1059
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: if you can find a special running back that impacts

1060
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: your offense, helps everyone, yeah, he's worth the pick. And

1061
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: so I loved Alfred Morris's comment last night. We got

1062
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 1: to talk to him at this event and he was like, first, well,

1063
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: first of all, he was like, I embraced the competition whatever,

1064
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: but he was like, I was excited for my position.

1065
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: They've been trying to devalue us for years and these

1066
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: guys are showing what a good running back can do

1067
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: for a team. All right, Ken, who do you got?

1068
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Do you want to touch on his Lynch question at all?

1069
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: Sam's what what about that? He felt like they that?

1070
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's got I say, he's got a point.

1071
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean you can find value at running back. Way

1072
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: later in the draft, Rawls filled in for Lynch. Alfred, Oh,

1073
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: Paxon Lynch, what was the question? I'm sorry, Well, he's

1074
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: talking about men, right, Kent. He's talking about that. He's

1075
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: marking Jerry down for the lack of execution for making

1076
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, right, Yeah, it's something that Jerry will

1077
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: be tied to. Oh. Absolutely know we know the facts,

1078
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: or you know what we think are the facts reported

1079
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: facts of what went on in that war room, how

1080
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: they almost went up to go get them. But kind

1081
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: of what what they was saying earlier about, maybe not

1082
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: everyone in the room was gung ho for Paxson Lynch,

1083
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: like everyone was gung ho for Zeke. Yeah, because the

1084
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: trade did not happen. They did not give up a

1085
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: third round pick to go get I think it's very

1086
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: telling that they weren't willing to make that when they

1087
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean they literally just did it for Lawrence a

1088
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But if if Jerry, and I mean,

1089
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: if there was a decent number of people that were

1090
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: convinced he's really the guy to handle the job after

1091
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: Romo and they didn't give up a two and a three,

1092
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: shame on them. I mean, And there's no way to

1093
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: know right now. But if that's all at cost and

1094
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: they were that sure that he's the guy, that's a

1095
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: using steak on their part. And we'll have to wait

1096
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: a few years to find out how that plays out. Okay,

1097
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: Lee in Atlanta, Lee, go ahead, Hey guys, A couple

1098
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: of things real quick. I love to pick a zeke Um.

1099
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: Some things that a lot of people don't mention is

1100
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: that the guy can run the route tree. I equate

1101
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: his skill set to Marshall folks just in the bigger body. Okay,

1102
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: but I love the pick. The second round pick. I

1103
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: also love because if you're gonna go risk reward, the

1104
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: reward of Jalen Smith's getting back to where he was

1105
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. The guy is easily a top three talent

1106
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: in the draft, So if the reward is that high,

1107
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: then I like it. More than even the Bruce Carter pick,

1108
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: you know that was a couple of years ago. So

1109
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: great with that as well. I love the overall speed

1110
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: that we're bringing to our special teams. I mean, we

1111
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: got guys with size running four threes with Brown and Purdue,

1112
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: so I love the overall talent. And then the way

1113
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: our defensive scheme works with a D line rotation. We

1114
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: added four guys tow in free agency to in that

1115
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: draft that have a real chance to see the field

1116
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: next year. In that rotation, fresh guys bring pass rush,

1117
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: especially the fact that I like our D tackles now.

1118
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: So I'm extremely happy with our draft. One tip for Dane.

1119
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: Check out that Michigan roster next year. It won't quite

1120
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: be Ohio States Draft this year, but there could be

1121
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: four to five first rounders on that on that team.

1122
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, appreciate it ly, Thanks for the call. Okay,

1123
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: Peppers come out next year. Peppers and I you know

1124
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: this might be a segue, but yeah, we're gonna We're

1125
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: take one more call and then I want to get

1126
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: here and then and we'll talk about seventeen seventy. We

1127
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: can go, can go a little long ago. No, I

1128
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,479
Speaker 1: want to take one more call here, then we're gonna

1129
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: do Dane's twenty seventeen mock draft. Can't What do you got?

1130
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: One of our favorite callers, Mark and Staten Island. Hey,

1131
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: how you doing great? All right? Listen dialogue cowboy fan.

1132
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 1: I love this team good to bad. The only negative

1133
00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: to this draft um that I see is already fifty

1134
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: percent of our draft picks we know are not going

1135
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: to help the team this year. A two pick, a

1136
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: quarterback pick, and this and this tight end project. So

1137
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: fifty percent. That's three three out of nine thirty three percent,

1138
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: and that's on the assumption that Gabon, Frazier and Brown

1139
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: will make an impact this year, whether it be special

1140
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: teams or not. So I don't like the fact that

1141
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: almost half our picks are not going to help us

1142
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: this year. All right, Mark, thanks for the call. Well,

1143
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: and that's I think. The only guy we know for

1144
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: a fact will not make an impact is Jalen Smith. Yeah,

1145
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: there's a chance that Tony Romo can go down, and

1146
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: then Kellen Moore maybe is not effective and Dak prescioll

1147
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: I guess a cheat. So ideally you don't want some

1148
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: of these guys making an insure but we talked about

1149
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: the rotation though too with those defensive linemen. Yeah, those

1150
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: guys are gonna get an opportunity. People don't want to

1151
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: hear this, maybe, but I don't even look at the

1152
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: sixth round guys as draft picks really, I mean their

1153
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: priority free agents. That's basically how I view them. If

1154
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: they can do something, they got a third round guy

1155
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: on my on my board. If they can do something great,

1156
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Fraser intrigues me. Especially with Barry Church and

1157
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: entering a contract year. Gathers is obviously intriguing. I'm not

1158
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: going to look back at whether or not this draft

1159
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: was successful based on what they do. Okay, Um, that's

1160
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: just me, all right, thanks for the call. Thanks to

1161
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: everybody that Oh well, I I wanted to play Devil's advocate. Yeah,

1162
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: and we do this every year. It's not necessarily fair. Uh.

1163
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, everybody loves like Levion Bell went to pick

1164
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: after Jovian Escobar. I mean, I I'm rooting like hell

1165
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: for Jalen Smith to get everything that he deserves and

1166
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: come back stronger. But in a couple of years, you know,

1167
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: one of these, you know, Miles Jack, Chris Jones, Avian Howard, Spence.

1168
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. If Noah Spence is a twelve sack

1169
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: guy in Tampa Bay and Jalen Smith is sitting on

1170
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: injured reserve in two years, no doubt, people are not

1171
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: gonna be happy. No. I mean, hey, what do we

1172
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: do investigating educa we've talked about. Hey, I love the

1173
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: fact that every single guy on that run that we

1174
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: talked about is a guy that we talked extensively about

1175
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: being here. And there's some guys Andson Johnson was one

1176
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: of my first initial exactly. Uh so it's gonna be interesting.

1177
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: All right. Well, here here's the part of the show

1178
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna really look forward to, is uh Dame

1179
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: Burglar is going to go through his uh two thousand

1180
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: and seventeen mock draft that he's putting up today on

1181
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: uh yeah CBS. We'll hit a few highlights here, and

1182
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: just for everyone, the order is the reverse order of

1183
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl odds, So don't complain to me about

1184
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: your team's too lower, too high, you know. And see

1185
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: where we have the Cowboys taken. We have the Cowboy

1186
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: seven damn way up at twenty four. So just just

1187
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: going by Super Bowl ods, not trying to predict the

1188
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: order here. But number one pick Cleveland Brown's Cody Cusser

1189
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: is not going to stop them from taking a quarterback. Uh.

1190
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson from Clemson again's top quarterback. He still has

1191
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: some room to grow if he stays healthy, He's got

1192
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: a chance. Number two Miles Garrett, I mean the von

1193
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: Miller comparisons are coming. Not only the A and M connection,

1194
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: but he could be special pass rusher. Got a few

1195
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: LSU guys coming up here. Jamal Adams the safety all right,

1196
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: could be the next Eric Weddle, Dallas native. And then

1197
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: at number eight, Leonard Fournette to the Lions. Oh, the

1198
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Lions could be him and boys? Writer who would be

1199
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: pumped about that? Yeah? Doulah former one two duo. There

1200
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: Desmond Kings in my top ten? Six? Where do you

1201
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: got Desmond King going six to the Bucks? Six to

1202
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: the Bucks? Ye? Player, I think he could be in that?

1203
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: Is he the best? Is he gonna be the best

1204
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: corner in the draft? You have him as the highest

1205
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: is the highest corner? I think he'll could be. There's

1206
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: a couple other corners. Jalen Tabor from Florida, He's he's

1207
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: in the Universation. You're trying to tell me the Browns

1208
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: are gonna turn their trade with the Eagles into Deshaun

1209
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: Watson and Dalvin Cook. Yeah, that's nasty the Browns. And

1210
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: according to this scenario, the Eagles will be picking ninth,

1211
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: which go to the Browns, and I have him taken

1212
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook from Florida States. So I'm talking about revamping

1213
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: that offense. Your new big three in Cleveland, Deshaun Watson,

1214
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and Coleman. Wow, that's a lot of speed,

1215
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of talent, which will be

1216
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: really interesting to watch there. Our color talked about Michigan.

1217
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: I've got two Michigan guys in my first round, mock

1218
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: job brill Pepper's safety, have him going to the Redskins,

1219
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: and then I've got Jake Butt the tight end going

1220
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. Oh no, yeah, So down there at

1221
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: twenty nine, they've got a couple of Michigan has a

1222
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: few other guys that might sniff the first round. Jordan

1223
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: and Lewis. He's five to nine. I think that might

1224
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: hurt him in the long run about making the first round.

1225
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: And then ju Chessen he's got a chance to make

1226
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: the first round. There a couple other highlights here. Let's

1227
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: see we have Bright Kaya, the quarterback from Miami Chicago

1228
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: pick fourteen, Oj Howard, a tight end. We thought it

1229
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: would be a first round. How many how many quarterbacks

1230
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: do you have in this? Uh? Three? Okay, right? Kaya

1231
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: going for Watson won Kaya fourteen. And then the third

1232
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: is u Chad Kelly, the old miss quarterball. Yeah. I

1233
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: watched the little tape on him this morning, going twenty

1234
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: five to Arizona and Carson Palmer a replacement eventually. So

1235
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: for all the running backs, we talked about four Nett

1236
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: at eight, a lot of running Dalvin's took at nine,

1237
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: and then got Christian McCaffrey going to Oakland. Oh wow, seventeen.

1238
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: I think that would be. Okay, here's my here's my

1239
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: old scout on McCaffrey. Okay, he reminds me of Eric

1240
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: medcalf when he came out from the Cleveland Browns back

1241
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: in the day. That your buddy Lombardi love. Yeah, old,

1242
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an old, that's an old old. But

1243
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: that he that same type of the ability, that open field, purpose,

1244
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: all purpose, open field. He might be better than that cap,

1245
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: but that was my that's my comparison to him. If

1246
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: Indie put Indie puts some O lineman in place this year.

1247
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: So if p Ryan actually were to go to the Colts, yeah,

1248
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: p Ryan's the fourth running back off the board to Indianapolis.

1249
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: He'd be the first time since oh eight we'd have

1250
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: four running backs first. Imagine that. And I don't have

1251
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb coming off the al Yeah, yeah, you know

1252
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: he has a chance. And also the Royce Freeman Oregon

1253
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: running back he's got a chance as well. I have

1254
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: six Alabama players uh in the first round. They this year,

1255
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: only one this year. I have six. Yeah. Tim Williams

1256
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: simblames game last year that name, but as a pass

1257
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: rusher he can be something. Let's see what other highlights

1258
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: do we have here? Who did you have Dallas? Take

1259
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: Dallas cow was picked number twenty four, like Williams, the

1260
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Speaker 1: or the wide receiver from Clemson almost paralyzed. Tell what

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Speaker 1: you did last year this time last year, my way

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Speaker 1: too early mock draft, a year ahead of time. I

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Speaker 1: had one pick right out of thirty two, and as

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys pick in Ezekie Elliott. Okay, but give yourself

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Speaker 1: some credit, Dane. You had fourteen of thirty two names

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Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, and I guarantee you a decent number

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Speaker 1: of the names he just said are going to be

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Speaker 1: first round picks next year. That's awesome, right and crazy

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Speaker 1: the guy he's got Dallas taking a first round talent

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver who did not play for them last

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Speaker 1: year because he heard himself in Week one. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. It's far for the course for us. How

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Speaker 1: good Clemson could have been? Oh yeah, no, that is

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Speaker 1: that is true? All right, Well listen, that's the music

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Speaker 1: for one last time. Once again. I just want to

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Speaker 1: thank I just want to thank everybody out there for

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Speaker 1: falling along. I just it's so nice that we can

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Speaker 1: have the interaction that we do with the fans, whether

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Speaker 1: it's on Twitter, whether it's on the things that calls

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Speaker 1: all that. We appreciate you the way that you guys

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Speaker 1: have embraced the Draft Show, and we look forward to

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Speaker 1: it once again doing this again next year, hopefully, hopefully,

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Speaker 1: hopefully I won't get to start on it on December first.

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Speaker 1: Let's start in like January February. Yeah, we will, but

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Speaker 1: but the Draft Show once again will be the uh,

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Speaker 1: the the All Star Games, the combine but we'll be

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Speaker 1: with you here every week and talking about these guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for everyone, yea exactly, Thank you and I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you to you guys, Dame Bugler, thanks for

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Speaker 1: David Hell, and I want to thank Ken Garrison as well.

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