1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Well, Jake Valentine, we are all right. Welcome to the 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast. I am Tank, This is 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Jay Valentine. We are the authorities on R and B 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: and in the building. My dog come on now, too 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: much hair away from from side to side from not 6 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: related to Jay Valentine. Okay, gets out of the way. 7 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: You know what's so crazy? I don't know. Should we 8 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: do the trade? Check the road? You can check everything, 9 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: check the roads. Yeah, so how do you how do 10 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: we get Valentine? Um? Wow, that that was probably a 11 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: drunk night. Um just sound good, you know what I mean? 12 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I think that, Uh, at first it was just Valentine. 13 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Everybody would call me Valentine's like, oh, she's so she's 14 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: so lovable and loving and whatever, like a little Valentine, 15 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: you know. And my Southern hospitality in l A was 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: like really like Valentine's Day card, you know. And Brooke 17 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: is is my name? My mom named me Brooke. My 18 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: name is Nicole Brook Nicole. Yeah, but listen, that actually 19 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: reversed though, because Nicole is usually ninety five percent of 20 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: black girl's middle name in the hood. True, very true. 21 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: If I mean we're do the calls at like if 22 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: ain't on the calls in here then something that, you 23 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So definitely the black girl middle 24 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: middle name had to keep you Valentine. Yeah, and it 25 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: just it just worked out. It just sounds good, rolled 26 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: off the tongue. You know. I had did a little 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: showcase and they asked me what my name was, and 28 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I tried it out on him and it was like, oh, 29 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: that's amazing. I was like, okay, that's it. When I 30 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: met Jay and he said his name was Ja Valentine, 31 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: I was imry, Wow, that's an R and B name. Okay, 32 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: here I am. Yeah. My story, my story ain't like 33 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: you know what, it's not okay, it's not about it. 34 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: You know. I had to change my okay yeah yeah, 35 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: not run on, not run on. We're gonna get him 36 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: one day and then I want to be here for that. 37 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: You gotta hear that. So what we like to do 38 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: is we really like to we really like to start 39 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: from the beginning you, but we like to act like 40 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: we're just meeting you for the first right, right. We 41 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: need the the historian, we need the journey, we need 42 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: the journey all of this. She started, like, where did 43 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: the inspiration start? Where did the understanding of I have 44 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: a gift, I can do this, start people watching gets 45 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: a girlfriend. But but you know, how did how did we? 46 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: And then coming from Houston to l A, what was 47 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: the inspiration behind that voyage and all the way to 48 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: now to where you do a bunch of stuff your 49 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: multimedia at this point, Okay, hello, she poses for the picture, 50 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: so so let's see. Okay, let's start. Um in Houston, 51 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Texas of course, Um, I came from a family that 52 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: were they wasn't really about the music. It was like, 53 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: that's a not even a dream. They just they it 54 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: was just something that did exists to my family, no one, 55 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: no one had ever done it ever, you know what 56 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean. It was a major joke. I feel like 57 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: when I watched What's a Little Movie for the kids, 58 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Koko like, don't sing, that is not gonna work. So 59 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: it was my grandmother that would actually like entertain this 60 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: idea that I had. Remember, in the heat of the night, 61 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: in the heat, um, I was eleven once I actually 62 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: started singing out loud. You know, I would sing privately 63 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: and you know, by myself all the time. So Ronnie Levin, 64 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: I was singing in the heat of the night, when 65 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: it was you know, coming on, and my grandmother was like. 66 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: My grandmother was like, what's what's going on? She really 67 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: sang that thing, you know, and I was like, really 68 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: you like that? So time passed and then she called 69 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: me up one time to sing in church. I was like, 70 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, like she was like, no, you can 71 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: do this, may be trust me, you can do this. 72 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Went up there his eyes on a sparrow. Everybody to death. Okay, 73 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Sunday after, Sunday after, and so now you belong to 74 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 1: the church, right. But it's a little church. It's about 75 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: ten people at the church. It's my grandmother's you know, 76 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: it's my good No, it was a store from for real, 77 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: like y'all my grandmother's church. So they didn't even tell 78 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: her she was the mother of the church. And it 79 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: was y'all know, Houston is um Nigeria and Houston have 80 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: come together in such a way. So it was a 81 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Nigerian church. Oh yes, oh for sure. And then every 82 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: woman and my family ran off and married a Nigerian man. 83 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: So this was a major part of me, you know 84 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, I thought I was Nigerian for the 85 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: longest time I had. Oh yeah, it was a thing. 86 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: I was told I had to marry a Nigerian man. 87 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: We had to put my mom in this seat for 88 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: her like that. To y'all, it was like, you go 89 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: out there and you find you a nice Nigerian Okay, 90 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: all right, she said, or a light skin with good hair. Ho, 91 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: it's up to you, you know, because the baby got 92 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: to have good hair. Don't bring on that hair, baby. 93 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: So it's Nigerian church. I'm singing for my grandmother, my mom, 94 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: and everybody just thinks it's hilarious, like ha ha, she's 95 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: singing Mrs a Joke or whatever. So because of that energy, 96 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I started hiding it. I met Um back then they 97 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: called him Deja the Great Um. He was connected to 98 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: a Dino and Chisanne from Agetown and I met him 99 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: and he was, you know, very he was in the 100 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: music industry already, so that was something new for me, Like, wow, 101 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: you really be at the studio, like you press a 102 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: button and didn't your voice come out the thing? And 103 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: like that was amazing to me. So at this point, 104 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I am of fourteen, fourteen fifteen maybe, so I'm going 105 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: to the studio with him. I'm catching the vibe. They 106 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: laughing at me because I'm young. They you know, laughing 107 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: at me, and she young. I don't know what, you know, 108 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: she thinks she could sing or whatever. So I made 109 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the decision to lie up a little bit. All right, 110 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: well I'm seventeen then cool. That didn't work. Ran across 111 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: some homies from Wrap a Lot Records. They was like 112 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: saying something sunk. Something that was like, I wanna do 113 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: some hooks. So I don't know what that means. Look, 114 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: they say, we're gonna send you a taxi. What no, 115 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: uber back then we're gonna send you a taxi? They 116 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: send me a taxi. I ended up at wrapping our 117 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: record singing hooks for everybody. It was a work for 118 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: higher arm involved the little papers I was signed, and 119 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: they give me a hundred dollars work for high hundred dollars, 120 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: work for high hundred dollars. They told me I can stack. 121 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: I say stack? Can't you good at stack? And I 122 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what. I don't know what 123 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing it here, but it's working. Coming home with money. 124 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: My mom mad, She's like, what's going on? I just 125 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: want to know what she was selling? That's my uncle 126 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Legit said, ain't no way anybody paying this little girl 127 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: to sing anything. Real dude. He was like, it's no way. 128 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: So my mom, her best friend jumped on that bandwagon. 129 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: My auntie. Everybody was like, it's no way that this happened, 130 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Like let me see. But I'm like, y'all come to 131 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the studio, like come check me out. They was like 132 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: thin that she they you know what my uncle did say, 133 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: were turning ran off to be a prostitute. He did, 134 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, he did say that. I'm still man say 135 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: it ain't no way. Okay. At the family functions, everybody 136 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: looking at me like, you know, I was really out 137 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: there singing. You know. That's what started my relationship with Scarface, 138 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: and I ended up doing a record with Scarface and 139 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Pimpsy and you know, like they remember the little young 140 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: brook that was. They called me Skittles our butter, Skittles Butter. 141 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Those were my two uh you know names around the hood. 142 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: They remember. I would come in there. They that's what 143 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: they say. She stacked like butter. And I was like, oh, 144 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: I like that. We just from with that, right. It 145 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: always got something to do with pancakes, right, So it's 146 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: butter our skittles. Depending on if you was close to 147 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: the family with skittles. If you met me, you know, 148 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: around the studio it was butter and my mom had enough. 149 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: Um she was like, no more wrapper lot. So I 150 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: stopped going up there. I stopped doing hoogs. I remember 151 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: J Prince coming in the studio one time and he's like, look, girl, 152 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: what's your name? I was like butter and he was like, 153 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: go home. He was like, who, who's idea was this? 154 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: He was sold, like, who's idea was it? What's going on? 155 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: I was like, no, for real? She could sing like 156 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: that's her on this record and this record. He was like, 157 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: oh you sound good. He said, did you have to 158 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: come back in a couple of years. He was like, 159 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable with this. Oh yeah. He came. 160 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: He was so so well spoken, just I felt like 161 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: he was in the darkness and the shadow and I 162 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: never really saw him, but I heard him. He said 163 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: a little girl. He asked me what my name was, 164 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: and I told him. He still said little girl. Go home. 165 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: He had his driver take me home. So after that, 166 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm frustrated. I'm like, man, I thought I was on 167 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: my whales about to get the deal, and I was 168 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: venting to the ASA at the time. That was his 169 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: name about it, and um, he was like, I'm gonna 170 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: start a girl group. I'm gonna put you in it. 171 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: So cool. That's when I did my first girl group. 172 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: It was called Best Kept Secret. I'm sure that's on 173 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: my Wikipedia or something like that. Best Kept Secret be 174 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Kiss And it was two other young ladies from around 175 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: the way, and we, uh didn't work out. How long 176 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: were you in the roup? That group that, Yeah, I'm 177 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: not that group last for a hot second because the 178 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: guy that was in charge, you know, he treated us 179 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: all like we was his girlfriend. So that that it 180 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: was jealousy and envy and then things just and how 181 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: was how long did you do your verse? And how 182 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: why was you at the CD and that? And I 183 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: was like, okay, this ain't gonna work. They we just 184 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: started falling out the group and getting mad, you know, 185 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: like like I can't even tell y'all what happened. Everybody 186 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: always asked me why that little group broke up. Y'all 187 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: have some potential. I don't know, Okay, so they run off. 188 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm on my own. He's like, don't worry, you know, 189 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: everything's gonna work out for you. And I'm like cool, 190 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: So I'm just waiting. My mom kicked me out. One 191 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: day we were at the studio. Um, I remember a 192 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: friend getting up and looking out the window. It's like 193 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: she was like, I'm gonna run to the store. So 194 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: she got up and she looked out the window and 195 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: then she just backed up and sat down. She was 196 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: just looking nervous. I was like, yo, what's up. And 197 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: she was like, UM, I ain't going to the stone anywhere. 198 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's what's wrong? Like we all in 199 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: the hoods, it's like if somebody dad i't there, You're 200 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: going to let down. And she's like, no, ain't nobody 201 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: dad out there. Your mom out there, and like what 202 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: you're talking about? Yeah? Mine drop never told my mom, 203 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: never came to the studio, never wanted like they just 204 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: thought it was funny. I looked outside. My mom didn't 205 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: take my clothes off, the dress or drawer. The whole 206 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: dresser was out there, the whole dress to dressers, the dog, 207 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: my dog tied to the dress of my little snake, 208 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: had a dog of a snake. All my stuff out there. 209 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: She trashed bag the rest of my stuff and she's 210 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: standing out there. She says, say she fake, you know what, 211 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: san figure it out, you want to be at the studio, 212 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: live at the studio. I'll never forget that line. That 213 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: was probably one of my first loving hip hop moments 214 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: right there out there. And she had her best friend, William, 215 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and he was like m M. My Auntie was like 216 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: you a little nasty, and I was like I was 217 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: still a virgin. I was like you guys, no, seriously, 218 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: like I'll be singing and like, people, do you think 219 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: do you think it was the church background? Probably the 220 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: church background, um, the lack of goals and dreams and 221 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: we my whole they're still in the hood. Ja, they 222 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: still don't know what I'm saying. I'm saying that the 223 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: side of it, were they thinking that it's something bad 224 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: more so than it's like, Okay, I get it being 225 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: a pipe dream, that's that's one thing, right, But it 226 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: being like if you think you're gonna be at the studio, 227 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: like the studio thing and this thing, and like you said, 228 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: and your uncle feeling like prostitution. You know what I'm saying, 229 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Like all of these things going, I'm wondering if a 230 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: part of that is the church where it's like you're 231 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: taught I could see that from a second music. Second 232 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: music that you know, obviously we all call R and 233 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: B being this devil's music true because if I was 234 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: at the church at Bible and church practice. That's why 235 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: I just wanted that, because because I didn't think about 236 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: that being from that place, you know what I'm saying. Like, 237 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: I didn't start doing army music until ninety six. That 238 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: was two years out of high school. So I was 239 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: I was the Bible toten little kid. Little he got 240 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: a selection, you have to bring it back to the room. 241 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: So you know, like it's and it's funny that you 242 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: that that you had that interaction with your parents. My 243 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: parents were, We're as supportive as they could be because 244 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: they didn't understand it either. But I had a minister 245 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: actually tell me who my friend brother tell me, I 246 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: hope you fail. Wow, so that you can see that 247 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: this is not God. Oh my gosh, we left, no 248 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: we have I was like, no, no, He literally said 249 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: to me in front of the church, Oh, I hope 250 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: you failed. It was the pet of you can come 251 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: back to God. Did they have like a going away 252 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: party for you when you're going on tours? Because I 253 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: was still going you know, after my ninety seven tour 254 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: with Ginuine and all of that, I was still you know, 255 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: going back on my church and all of that stuff, 256 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I think that kind of began 257 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: the separation of me kind of being in the building, 258 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because the building and the 259 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: things that happened in that building, that's a bad taste 260 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm saying. So I've think 261 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the torment I had that you experienced from your mom, 262 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, outside of him, I actually had more of 263 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: it internally, you know what I'm saying, in terms of 264 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: understanding if this is where I was supposed to be, 265 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: and if this was the devil and if this was 266 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: it took me a minute to come to terms where 267 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: I had been blessed by the only person who could 268 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: bless me, you know what I'm saying, to be able 269 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: to write and sing my songs and travel the world 270 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: and share my experiences through melody and through musicianship people 271 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: connecting that I didn't. I didn't understand that this was 272 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: this was nothing but right, and it took a minute 273 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: for me to get it. So I know you down 274 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: South too, like I was on the East coast Man 275 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: were down south. They don't. They don't play about could 276 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: be working. You're supposed to be working, bringing back, bringing 277 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: money home, taking care from which I was, no, you 278 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: need to just go work a regular job. Something you 279 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: can see. You need to check stuff, you know what 280 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean. So, so the interesting part for me to 281 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: hear both of your story of what R and B 282 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: music was to your family is the polar opposite, right, 283 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: because in my family it was the way to save us. 284 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: So it's very interesting to hear the perspective of this 285 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: is going to destroy you. All I heard was this 286 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: is what's going to take you somewhere you've never been. 287 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: This is what's going to take us out of here. 288 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: Did that make you rebel from it? Or see I 289 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: was gonna say that feel like if I grew up 290 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: like that, I would be like, well, I'm it was. 291 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: It was forced. It was forced to find me early 292 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: on that you know, yeah, you have to like my 293 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: father would say, you can quit the group, but you 294 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: still got to practice. How does not make sense? But 295 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't supposed to make sense. It was like, because 296 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: you want to you want the reward for your work, right, 297 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: So it's like you want to hoot. If you shoot 298 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of jumpers in practice, you want to 299 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: get in the game. And she was with jumpers. You 300 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: just don't want to shoot him just to be harmonies. 301 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: So for us, you know, coming coming from where I 302 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: came from, For me, I was in a space where, 303 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: like you said, I kind of rebelled against it a 304 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: little bit because it started so early in my childhood 305 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: where literally, you know, we're street performing when I was five. 306 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: So that's why I always asked, you know what I mean, Yeah, 307 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to say. But then I realized two 308 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: very early on that me being a child actually gave 309 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: us we were all kids because they were they were five. 310 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: My brothers were five years older than me. But if 311 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm five, their ten, it's something about the little little one. 312 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: So I was like, anything I do, it gets a reaction, right, 313 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: So then I started realizing, like, oh, there's a different 314 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: light on me. I'm gonna need some more money. Really 315 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: early on, I'm Michael right right, I need a different 316 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: type of everybody got like regular bikes. I need the mongols, 317 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, but the reverse, like 318 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I said, the opposite for you guys. It's always interesting 319 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: to hear that that side of it because for me, 320 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: like I said, it was, it was something that was 321 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: pushed on us earlier. This is going to change your life, 322 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: our lives. It's going to get us out a different 323 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: that's a different pressure. But you know here now only 324 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to do with my life is different. My 325 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: father was right, he saw something, you know what I mean. 326 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: Then I appreciate it for it, you know what I mean? Definitely, 327 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: And I wonder if I would have come from the church, 328 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: like like how you guys grew up in church saying 329 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: we were talking about pimps, like literally the old pim 330 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: because I thought they could sing. We are vocal coaches. 331 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, I'm calling this blue magic baby. Am 332 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: I going to sing the del fine? But I get 333 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: it though, I get it, I get it. And it's 334 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: always like I said, it's it's just really interesting to 335 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: hear that side of it. Studio dressing dog in your 336 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: snake outside and your mama given you and whatever. William 337 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: William William Williams doing that too. I got cash, but 338 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: that's another stuff they're giving you that all of that. 339 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: My auntie like so I'm like, well, let me just 340 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: gather my thing. You know, I did run out there 341 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: and mom please, and you know, I'll never forget begging 342 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: for their blessing at that time, like in the most 343 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: desperate point of my life, about to turn sixteen, Like 344 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean days away from my sixteen birthday. So so 345 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: you have been putting some time because you yeah, thats 346 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time in Houston where the circles this big, 347 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I probably had about ten hooks that 348 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: was circulating at that time. Of course it wasn't on 349 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: name on it, but it was like, you know, I 350 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: can go back and listen to it, like is that 351 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: me on there with the Yeah, that's my hot note, 352 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So got kicked out days 353 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: at the time, was like they call him London Now. 354 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: He was like, you can you stay with me? He 355 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: was freaked out. He was like, listen, I know I said, 356 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start the girl group and I was gonna 357 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: help you. But I got girlfriends and you're not about 358 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: to blow up my spotty. Let me know that. I 359 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: knew that already. He was like, I got a whole 360 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: life and you know this ain't gonna work. So I 361 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: couch hopped for for a while, and his mom end 362 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: up moving to Texas from California ironically, and she let 363 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: me ren a room for seven hundred for a little while. 364 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I did go back home and try to work things 365 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: all with my mom. That lasted all of seventeen hours, 366 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: because soon it was as soon as it was time 367 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: for me to like, Okay, Mom, I want to go 368 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: to the studio or you know, do something. Mind you, 369 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm working. I have a job at the mall and 370 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm running the money back home for my sister and brother, 371 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: like whatever, y'all need. Let me know, I'm doing my 372 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: mall job. But when I leave my mall job, if 373 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: I go to school and do my mall job, I 374 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: want to go to studio, you guys, and I'm gonna 375 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: be home by nine, like give me a break. But 376 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: they didn't know that. Yeah, and wh I was trying 377 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: to studio. The problem was starting when I would get 378 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: home at my mom was live it like see I 379 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: told you, and I'm like, Mama, you sometimes you don't 380 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: get it done. You know she didn't get it, so um, 381 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: I know I switched names on y'all, but he switched 382 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: his name shoot Dave's a slash London moved to California 383 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: and let me. I was staying with the mama, ringing 384 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: the room, and he was like, sending pictures back. You'll remember, 385 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: we have to print. You don't remember you have to 386 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: take the pictures and you have to wait to get them. 387 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: You have to mel him out. He was sending me 388 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: pictures of California, saying, man, is this is? I say? 389 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: I called him and said, let me tell you something. 390 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: I patient you know what I'm saying. I hit the 391 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: two way and I said, let me tell you something. 392 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: You gotta come get me. You gotta get me out 393 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: of here. This is not gonna work for me. I 394 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: just felt. I was like, I didn't know what I 395 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: was talking about, didn't have anybody. My whole family was like, 396 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: don't call me. Yeah, even the younger ones. My younger 397 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: cousins didn't even understand what was going on. They didn't 398 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: have a choice. They grew up not liking me because 399 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: of their parents saying she fast, so she ran off 400 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. It was like like, damn, they're like black 401 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: Amish for sure, for sure. So luckily this man got 402 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: me a ticket to California. Okay, I get there. I 403 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: never forget he had an apartment in the Avalon and 404 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: Willie Hills. I've never seen nothing like it. I was like, 405 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: this crazy. That's the first place I went to when 406 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: I got When I left l A X, I'm like, yo, 407 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: this is crazy, you know what I mean? I was 408 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: a target across the street, like I made it so 409 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: now across the made And I got to back up 410 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: a little bit though, because before I left and really 411 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm on a plane to go to um California. I 412 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: went to visit Atlanta, and I did my noontime. I 413 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: did my noontime time, okay. And I got the call 414 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: from Dessey's child when they broke up. I could have 415 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: been fairer. I got the call, like, yo, it's auditioned 416 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: right now. I could have been y'all know damn well, 417 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: y'all know me. I got the call. I got the 418 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: call when Desse's child broke up. I got the call 419 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: when Day was trying to replace Mila in seven oh two, 420 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: and I would be the girl that everybody would call 421 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: to like and I'm like, you know what, I love 422 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: seven oh two, Like I can't do that, you know, 423 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: even though I didn't even know that. Yeah right, remember 424 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: you know actually some meetings you know you're too smart, 425 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: you don't imagine, and they're like, we don't want you. 426 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm so do I have to pay back the budget 427 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: that they've already right, I'm not like my solo rights? 428 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: Are you talking to? You? Got too much that that? Yeah? No, 429 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: So I did my noontime time. I was I went 430 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: through the you know, skipped over the Destiny Child thing 431 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: and all the other stuff. Another group, y'all a tr 432 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Terry Ross, Terry Ross hit up London. Was like, y'all, 433 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I got the girl group just lost my least singer. 434 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: I heard you got a girl Now I'm in that group. 435 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: I think they called it Sir Jane, a girl named Dina, 436 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: and Shira and Tunisha. So we was in noontime working. 437 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: That's when I met j Q. Okay, j Q, I 438 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: don't da. I don't know Jake. We want to get 439 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: Jake you on the phone. I don't know. I was 440 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: just living. I was in a whirlwind, you know what 441 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean. I was like I made it l like, 442 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is this is my journey to l 443 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: a kind of you know what I mean. It's like 444 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: at this point I'm gone. I'm out of Houston. Ain't 445 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: going back, Okay, No, mhmm. I'm like nobody's checking on you. No. No, 446 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: I didn't speak to anybody in my family for like 447 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: three years straight. I'm gonna tell Win, oh yeah, sixteen 448 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: out get out of here with the dog and the snake. 449 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: It's like, anybody want to buy child and a Cobra 450 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: because I don't have anywhere to live. So yeah, I'm in. 451 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm in a t l with with me working with 452 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Jazz Faye and um Um tr Teddy Bishop, working with 453 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: Teddy Jay Austin. Yeah, everybody like they was. You know, 454 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: that's the first time I was told. You know, I 455 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: remember um Teddy was like, yo, you and Aliyah sounds 456 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: so much alike in the booth is crazy to me. 457 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: And I was like sad you were there. You were 458 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: there because they wrote all of our songs, all of 459 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: our son j Q. Too Hot to Go Home. I'll 460 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: never forget that song. That song got me in trouble, 461 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: too gotten, too hot to just go home. Donnie is 462 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: the first person that made me hate the studio. Donnie 463 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: will make you record a verse a hundred times in 464 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: a row. He'm gonna keep them all and I will 465 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: do what I do when y'all go home. An hour 466 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: later after singing that same verse, I hated that song. 467 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: But any comp comp comping um Jazz Faye, I did 468 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: my first like crazy little distract record. You know, I 469 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: was feeling myself. Anyway, long story short, we did a 470 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: bunch of meetings with the group. Didn't the meetings. Nobody 471 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: was trying to sign us. So that's when it's like, 472 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: it's not like that. You woke up. Keep it funky 473 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: as you look back now, right, Jesus, just keep on. Yeah, 474 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: it was something missing. It was something missing because y'all 475 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: know we had the records. That's very play the records 476 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: and took the records. That's very political in my mind. 477 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: That just said. I remember sitting in a meeting like 478 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: everybody looked good. Yeah, it was everybody get down. Everybody 479 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: group was getting knocked down. Everybody was getting by the 480 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: same guy except me. I came in like, oh, y'all, 481 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: it's something going on. What y'all doing? Okay, but I 482 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: love y'all. Uh, So we went to it was it 483 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: was it was a listen week, ladies. If y'all listening 484 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: to this. We can talk about this, call me, d 485 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: n me. We can set we can come right back here. 486 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: That's a whole lot of seats and we can figure 487 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: out the entanglements that that broke up the group. Okay, 488 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: But I remember sitting in the meeting like, come on, y'all, like, y'all, 489 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: we gotta remember knowing you need to walk into the 490 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: room and captivate you know what I mean, walk to 491 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: the room. And but that was me being a Southern 492 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: bill like, how y'all doing? Yeah, I sing and you know, 493 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: and they would kind of be like m hmm. You know, 494 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the l A on them, 495 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 1: you know, it was the l A girls. They had 496 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: the fresh press and I was in there with the 497 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: country girls. You know, I don't know. But I went 498 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: through a situation in that group where they kind of 499 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: said they wanted to sign me after the meeting, and 500 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that was my first encounter with that. 501 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: That was E and I at the time. Oh no, 502 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: it was just straight capital at the time. That freaked 503 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: me out. I didn't take the deal. I was like, no, 504 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: that's not wrong, that's not loyalty. You know, I think, 505 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, I come from Houston. I'm like, no, you 506 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: don't do that. You stick with your gang. They came 507 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: in there with them. I'm not turn the deal down. 508 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: So group just dissolved. I don't even I want to 509 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: ask Terry what happened? Why? Why we keep going? You know, 510 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. So it was right. I ended up 511 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: in another group with Mila j In, Miyoko, Um Jane. 512 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: You know y'all, y'all know what everybody don't know. So 513 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: it's jen A, Miyoko, and Jamila. That's the three sisters. Um. 514 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: This is as soon as I um arrived. When I 515 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: arrived in l A for the first time, Like what, 516 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: I so not mind you? When he got me a 517 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: ticket to l A. I thought I was coming to visit, 518 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: you know. I'm like, it's no way I'm gonna stay 519 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: like I think I'm coming to visit. I'm gonna try 520 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: it out now in my mind, I'm gonna do everything 521 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: I can to stay here, you know what I mean. 522 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: But it's like, okay, come see what it's like. I 523 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: met Mila j and um Miyoko and Mama Tina at 524 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: Friday's my first soon as I got off the plane. Um, 525 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: that was exciting. They just took me in like mom. 526 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Matina was really a mother to me. That was the 527 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: first time in a long time that I was like, 528 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, Like she get me hughed, like baby, 529 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: you need to try this condition on your hair, you're 530 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: looking a little dry, and I was like, okay. We 531 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: end up getting swept back to a t L we 532 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: I think they called us remix to do some meetings 533 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: um we and back to a t l as a group, 534 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the three of us UM. I remember us staying in 535 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: hotels with the boys, um immature. Janet was there were 536 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: just like you know, a little a little unit. We 537 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: would all be just we would all have one floor 538 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: at the hotel or the motel or whatever. Were said, 539 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: let me not talk too big. You know, we had 540 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: the money yet, and we were just thugging it out 541 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: recording songs. I thought the songs was great, some of 542 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: them are on YouTube somewhere. And we did a couple 543 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: of meetings and it just just really really didn't go. Remix, Yeah, 544 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: really didn't go. Those are my hearts though, like from 545 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: that group, I really have relationships still to this day. 546 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: We still see each other, you know what I mean, 547 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: And it's Oh my god, Mama, te me look like them, 548 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: my girls. I love them like what they were for 549 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: me when I first came to l A. Nobody you 550 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: know can replace that. They really took me in as 551 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: I was their sister. Period. Um they're brothers, brothers too. Um, 552 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: so I didn't really go anywhere. We did do a meeting. 553 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: Um I did hear something about them need to sign me. 554 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: I can't do that again, this is not this is 555 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: not it. We did. I think we did a we 556 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: did a showcase. We performed. Um. I wasn't much of 557 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: a dancer at the time, and they was going crazy 558 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, what are these counsel? I think 559 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: we opened right because they were going in you like, 560 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: we gotta compete with Sierra. Let's go you know what 561 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the precess That's what she wasn't see everything. 562 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: It was just precess then. And I remember we opened 563 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: for Jagged Edge and uh it was Max Goose. Max 564 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: Goose was standing on the side of the station. I'm 565 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: telling on you. Max. Remember he was like, you the 566 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: next Sadena. You're the next Sadena. And I was like really, 567 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: and I'm dancing. Yeah, he told me that. Max told 568 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: me I was the Nex Sadena and we're performing on 569 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: what you're doing what I'm saying. I was just dancing, 570 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: you know. I was like, listen, when you lose the 571 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: counter eight, get your friends just going to back that 572 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: contest immediately, and everybody forgot that I wasn't doing what 573 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: everybody else is doing. Okay, see the work. What was 574 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: you doing some background? Okay, because I've been on shows 575 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: with what her with genuine guine introduced me. Okay, oh 576 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: my god. So yes, Max Goose is like, you you, 577 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a record that I'm gonna sign 578 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: you or whatever. And I'm like, oh my god, just 579 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: happing at a kid, you know. So I'm like it 580 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: kind of discouraged me from the industry because I'm I, 581 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, people just trying to split you up. I 582 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: just felt like it was gonna make me look crazy 583 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: that here I am coming into these mind you, the 584 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: groups are already a group, lost the lead singer. I'm 585 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: coming in as the lead singer, and now, you know, 586 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: and I never wanted to get a deal based off 587 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: of I went to a meeting with somebody else and 588 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: stole their deal or whatever. So that discouraged me when 589 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm now. I'm I'm still in California, just chilling. Um. 590 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: I heard about a showcase. Shout out to the days 591 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: of the showcases, you know what I mean, showcase. I 592 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: heard about a showcase, um London, and I ran across 593 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: these kids on the street. I was a kid too 594 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: at the time, but ran across these kids on the 595 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: street just playing with buckets. They was just play was 596 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: a band. It was like, we're a band, we do 597 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: our thing. And they were sold up to me and 598 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, it's a showcase coming up. Y'all 599 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: want to perform together? And they was like, alright, cool, 600 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: So we did that perform. It was this little hole 601 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: in the wall spot No a C. I went in there. 602 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: I had on some I still I think I still 603 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: got some pictures to this day. I had on some 604 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: mess that I found various places, hair colorful. Um had 605 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: my own band win in there, went crazy the band 606 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: on the street. Okay, I had my own. I had 607 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: my own. I went in thereat Huh, they had just 608 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: they had whatever. You know what if I walked in 609 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: there and I saw some young kids performing and the 610 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: kid with the bucket and it was a spoon and 611 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: a fork and it was whatever. They had all kinds 612 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: of stuff. They was making noise within and I said, Janet, 613 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: Jason said give me a beat, and I was like, 614 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: it worked for Janet, so I'm gonna say it. I 615 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: said that I sung like three songs. I mind you, 616 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm in California. I'm from Houston. Where they danced and 617 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: they clapped and they participate. I was done with my 618 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: last song. I was like, and they was looking at 619 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: you like we're looking at you silent. I was like, 620 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: my god, me looking at them, that's what it was 621 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: to back in the day, and nobody showed no emotion. 622 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: I was like, what yo. So I got off. I 623 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: got off the stage and I think Pete Farmer was there, 624 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Pete Farmer, Pete Farmer, and I forgot the other guy 625 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: that was there, and I walked out into the hall 626 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: and I remember Pete just kind of looking like, oh, 627 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: I think it went well. I'm not sure, you know. 628 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: And I had met Pete before, but it was just 629 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: I didn't know what he do. I didn't understand the 630 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: music industry in these positions. I didn't know if it 631 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: was a good thing or a bad thing, or what 632 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: if you were lying to me, I don't know. So 633 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: I walked out in the hall and sure enough I 634 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: turned around. I'm like in tears, and these two guys 635 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: walked up and it was Master Letic and Josh Josh Deutsch, 636 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: and he said, we're gonna sign you. You're gonna make 637 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: you a big You're gonna be a big star. And 638 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: I was like what it was like, you gonna take 639 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: the card, the card, come to this address, we're gonna 640 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: meet with you. Went to the address. There was Capital, 641 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: the big building. I was like, oh my god, this 642 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: is real. This is a real thing. That's a real thing. 643 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: I am. Let's see a team. So now I'm just yep, 644 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: a team because yeah, when uh, when girl Fight finally hit, 645 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: I was actually no, no, no, let me think I 646 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: had to be nineteen when I actually went there and everything. 647 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: So but then I might be off on it might 648 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: like people don't understand by that time, you have been 649 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: in multiple groups. Three kicked out your house saying hooks 650 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: for a hunted, Yeah, that's the new ship. Took hooks 651 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: for a hunted. Um, I'm sure you don't have a 652 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: dog in the stare dog in the snake? No more 653 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: dog in the stay gone, big boy, I loved you. 654 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: Sorry whoever took care of my dog? Right? Like people 655 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: really think that they just one day you decided to sing, 656 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: the next day you got a record, or the next 657 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: day you got a song on the radio. And fighting, fighting, fighting, 658 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: little light skin and this is this is not what 659 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: I call myself, light skinned girl with good hair, fighting 660 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: all the fighting somebody every day I felt like, why 661 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: do you want to what was wrong with y'all? Jeez? 662 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: Everywhere I go, some girl want to fight me. I'm like, 663 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: all right, I gotta And then that that started to fight. 664 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: Things started back home because I was the oldest cousin, 665 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: the oldest sister. So anytime somebody to pick on my 666 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: little sister brother pushed them over, I gotta go out 667 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: there and represent for the entire family that you can't 668 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: continue to do this. So I'm out there like, oh 669 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: she did, I gotta kill her because I don't. She's 670 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna push over everybody else in the fish. She beat 671 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: me up, then I'm about to get laughed at, you 672 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm the oldest, so it's just 673 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: a fight. I'm just fighting for my life. I'm fighting 674 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: London's girlfriends because he still got he didn't came to 675 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: l A and he got set. So mind you, he's 676 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: he's getting he's getting ready to send me back to 677 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: Houston because in his mind he's like, no, he had 678 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: a one bedroom at the Avalon. He like, I remember 679 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: sitting in the living room like, well, by, okay, how 680 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: you doing, girl, I've heard so much about you. Yes, girl, alright, 681 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: let me turn the TV up. Just I'll remember, you know, 682 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: I remember, so, you know, and that's that's coming from 683 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: home to you know, to watching him do his thing. 684 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: So they right there, they did it right there, demodeal 685 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: right there, demo deal with Virgin Records, Master Aletic and 686 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: Josh Dewey. Two later, um started Downtown Records. I was 687 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: we are at the same time when the when the 688 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: girl fight come up? I think so all two thousand five, No, 689 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: it was later earlier, okay and one okay, all right, 690 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: interesting because I feel like that's my noon time days. 691 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: I remember when you came to the Bay and he 692 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's this new girl. She kidding to you. 693 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: Oh god, I don't know. I was a couple of 694 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: times and I was like, is that you man? I 695 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: was like, well, I mean I mean easy. It seems 696 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: easy to me, you know. But I got my deal, 697 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: um demo deal. They sent me to Sweden to work 698 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: with Bloodshine in a bunt. Immediately I'm freaked out. I 699 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: gotta get a passport of They put some money in. 700 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: I had seventy six dollars when I sawed my deal, 701 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: seventy two dollars and something said because I pawned a 702 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: ring that I had, that's how I had. Oh my god, 703 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: bro Broke had nothing like I pawned the ring had 704 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: seventy two dollars. I remember sitting there with the seventy 705 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: two dollars and my cell phone. It was forty two dollars, 706 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I gotta I gotta eat and I 707 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: gotta pay the cell phone bill. So I paid the 708 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: cell phone bill. I went to the grocery store and 709 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: I got to celest pizzas y'all know what I'm saying. 710 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: Little dollar and some noodles, and I was like, oh 711 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: my god, I don't know, like how does music stuff work? 712 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: And I don't know what I'm gonna do. And I 713 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: went to I guess I overdraft or whatever. So I 714 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: went to the A T M. Like, let me see 715 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: how bad the damage is. I don't know what happened 716 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: between me walking from that grocery store and every anybody 717 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: that knows that part of Wooding Hills with a grocery 718 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: store to the bank is literally right there. I walked 719 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: from the grocery store to humh to the A T 720 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: M hum about a coffee bean and all of that, 721 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: and booms in my account. I was Mama, uncle, let 722 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: me tell you what you do. You slept on me. 723 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: I got oh and didn't get hit by nobody, still 724 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: got my dignity and pray hello, so money, I was like, oh, 725 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: put the celest pizzas back right. I was tripping so oh, 726 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, that would be right there. So go 727 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: to go to Sweden. I guess I did a good 728 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: job with my demo deal. Came back with great songs. 729 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: They liked them. They were all rock and roll, though 730 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: I have to say that it was rock and roll songs. 731 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: It was pop rock. I did pop rock music at 732 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: my showcase. It was all pop rock music that I 733 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: was doing. That's what I was into. When you not 734 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: signed to a production company. I was signed to Subliminal, 735 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: but that was literally me in London, so we just 736 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: was that. So he wasn't doing the record, he was 737 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: doing the records. And I did have R and B records, 738 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: but my showcase with the band that I pulled off 739 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: the street, all they knew were pop rock records. So 740 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: I would just sing over what they knew. So I 741 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: got my deal the moment they saw me. That's what 742 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: I was doing. I wasn't doing my R and B stuff. 743 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything from remix or surgeon, you know 744 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. It was that's what they saw. So 745 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of people that don't know the story 746 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: that explains how my first album, Chain Letter, went the 747 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: way it went. It was so like what is this? 748 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You had a girl fight, 749 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: and then you had a rock record, and then you 750 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: had a pop record. It was like what But they 751 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: didn't know, Like I kind of not on purpose because 752 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know any better, set myself up for that. Immediately. 753 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: They sent me to Sweden to work with blushin a bunt, 754 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when I came back 755 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: and I had meetings with them, they was like this 756 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: little ghett old girl. It was like when I did 757 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: the big round table meeting, they were like I remember 758 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: them like whispering to each other and talking about my hair. 759 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: And at the time, yeah, they hired Chocca. They hired Chocca, 760 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: who was you know with J and B. Now Chocca 761 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: and she came on and she was like, yeah, they 762 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: hired me to get you together and figure you out, 763 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: like because they we don't know what to do with you, 764 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: you know. And a lot came with that. You know. 765 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: I was told I was too light skinned to do 766 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: get told music, and you know, I needed to tan. 767 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: So I started tanning every day. I was burning myself up. 768 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: So now people think that I bleached and I'm like, no, 769 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 1: now I'm just regular. I was in the tan beid 770 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: probably three times a week, trying to be brown enough 771 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: to be as ghetto as I was telling you that. Yeah, 772 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: it was like yeah, right away they told me I 773 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: was I needed to tan. They was like, tanning is 774 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: the new thing. You see a shanty like she's you know, toasted, 775 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, well she is. You know what 776 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you know. And um, they told 777 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: me a couple of things and they needed to drop 778 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: like twenty seven pounds. I'll never forget the twenty seven. 779 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, because I liked my you know 780 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: in Houston. In Houston, you know, you had a little 781 00:44:46,640 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: It was okay, they have a little chunk I did that, 782 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: dropped the weight or whatever. And then um, I came 783 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: back and I don't know who had the meeting about 784 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: me going to Atlanta to work with Little John, but 785 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: it was like, we let's see what she does over there, 786 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, after Sweden. Yeah, after I did those records. 787 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: So actually, hold on stop, I just skipped apart, you 788 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: gotta it's been a while. I'm old. I went to 789 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: Atlanta first, and I work with Tricky. I work with 790 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: Tricky first. I work with Tricky and dream Um first, 791 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: and um, we did a couple of records and I 792 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: think that was like maybe we don't know this girl, 793 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, because we were in there talking crazy, you know, 794 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: with those records, and um, it was just just really ghetto, okay, 795 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: really nice, really colorful and ghetto. And then it was 796 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: like maybe we should put her. We're hearing about this 797 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: new guy named little call itself Little John. Let's let's 798 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: see what she does. And I was supposed to go 799 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: to Atlanta to work for him, got to ad and 800 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't there, so I don't know nothing about that. 801 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you mean he's not here because I'm 802 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: here because y'all see me here. He's like, now I'm 803 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: in Florida. I'm in Miami. Ain't I waited on templing 804 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: for five days? So you feel me, you feel me. 805 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: That's how it goes. That's just how it goes. He said, 806 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: I understand that you in a t L. But I'm 807 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: in Miami. I'm on the boat. What I do? I 808 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: get it. I got on the plane and I went 809 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: to Miami, like where are you at? You know? And 810 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: I got called the company like, hey, I don't know 811 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: what y'all talking about, but I'm just in a hotel 812 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: in a t L. And he said he's in Miami. 813 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: So they said, all right, let's get her to Miami. 814 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: I get there. He's on the boat. He's on the boat. 815 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: I'm on the boat in London. I don't care. Me 816 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: like at this point, people like me and London have 817 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 1: a son together. So that's that that. You don't ladies, 818 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,240 Speaker 1: just handle your busy, mixed the business with the pleasure. Okay, 819 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: now drink to that. You just don't do it I 820 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: thank God for my son, but jeez, did I complicate 821 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: my life? That was way later. So at this point, 822 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, what can I do to control 823 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: this girl? Because you know, I'm out here and you know, 824 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm um something to talk about this new little you know, 825 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: a little new little chick you know that's doing her things. 826 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 1: So a couple of looks, you know, rappers are asking 827 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: about me and you know, stuff like that. This is 828 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: before Instagram too. Oh yeah, just when you got a 829 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 1: real phone called inquiry. Oh yeah, you got you got 830 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: the girl, the little girl that works at the desk 831 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: at the company, like someone you know, someone sos in 832 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: another room and he wanted to know. You know, I'm like, 833 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: oh he did, Okay, all right, you know, it's all 834 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: of that. It's like, oh, Bobby Valentino is another room 835 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: he wants to know. I'm like, okay, I guess you know, 836 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: it's just like whatever. So it's all of that. So 837 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: we we're on the boat and little John is giving 838 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: me a hard time. He is just like, what's gonna 839 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: make me want to work with you? Why? I'm like, wow, 840 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: like I need some audition. I didn't know. I thought 841 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: it was just gonna work together. I didn't know. I 842 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: had to come out there and prove to him that 843 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: I was good enough to work with him. So first 844 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: of all, he was not trying to get in the 845 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: studio with me. He's like, we're gonna be on this 846 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: boat until you show me something. Come on a little. 847 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 1: So I'm on the boat. Um, I'm just walking around, 848 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: just taking into sights. Uh, I'm walking trying to find 849 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 1: a bathroom. It's a big boat. The door flies open, 850 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: pit and they're doing his thing. I was like, this 851 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: is my first time really seeing porno in real life. 852 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: So this is what the three looks like. This is 853 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 1: why I didn't. I didn't know that I was gonna 854 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: find this out today, you know what I mean. The 855 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: girl come out, she's like, you cut it in my hair, 856 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is I didn't and I'm a 857 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: fan of your work. I didn't mean to meet you. 858 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: And then hey, guys, carry on all right, you know, 859 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: like y'all know, I'm fresh out. I'm the country bumping like, 860 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: oh yeah, crime mobs on the boat. Um, Scrappy's on 861 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: the boat. You know, It's just it's it's a good time. 862 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: So and they all looking at me, like why should 863 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: we let you in? You know what I mean? So 864 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: I go upstairs. I'm now I'm looking for my person, 865 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: like he really leave me? Like my security not here 866 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: like you had. You had a label. Not on the 867 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: boat though, just u We had security because London was crazy. 868 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,720 Speaker 1: And that's that's that's his that's his interview. That's his interview. 869 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: We had security everywhere we win. You security, He had security, 870 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: but I was with him, so you know, yeah, yeah, 871 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: we had security everywhere we win, you know what I mean? Yeah? 872 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: It was it was Your life was gab, you know, 873 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: all the girlfriends, all the girlfriend you know what I mean. 874 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: So I'm upstairs, I'm like, yo, anybody like what's up? 875 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 1: So I get up there. I'm looking a little John 876 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: who was like your boy in the bathroom and I'm 877 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: like okay, I'm like, which way is the bathroom? He's 878 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: like right there, open the door. They're busting down. Little 879 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: John's assisted in him going crazy in the bathroom. I'm like, 880 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: this canvy life. So I just she had her hair, 881 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: she had like want of a little sharp buzz cuts. 882 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, dam I can't pull her hair. I just 883 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: aren't choking her out. Like, let's just go because I 884 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: don't want to. Like at this point, I'm up against 885 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 1: the wall. I want a record. I want a record. 886 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: Tomin and Prince says, eyeballed me, like they want to fight. Scrappy, 887 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: don't like me. I saw people's peters. I don't know 888 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 1: what's going like when I don't just I had enough, 889 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't know what's going on. I'm 890 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: out of my element, you know what I mean. I 891 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: just just started, you know, so everybody clapping. I get 892 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: my record, I get my Who would have thought that 893 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: all I had to He turned that boat around and 894 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: we went straight to the studio. Straight to the studio. 895 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: He started making the beat and it was like, come on, 896 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: do something, go start writing girl fight whatever I was 897 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: and that was the vibe, that was the energy, you 898 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we did the record and 899 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: he was he gave me such a hard time. He 900 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: was like, um, and I'm like, you should you know, 901 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, little Southern girls, we got all the confidence 902 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 1: in the world, Like, all right, so you're gonna jump 903 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: on it. He's like, that's a whole another check, you 904 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. He was like, nah. So I'm 905 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: like dang, that's crazy, son, And I know everything right. 906 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: Everybody know how he used to work, so this is 907 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: not you know, you're doing interviews like it's certain things 908 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: you say and certain things you don't say. Everybody knew 909 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: that there was porn on like six different flash screens 910 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: in a mattress for you to go sing behind. That's 911 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: how he worked period. Everybody knew. I know everybody was. 912 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't a secret. It wasn't a secret location. Everybody 913 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: was walking in and out. I'm just in there, like, yo, 914 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: this is this is crazy. I would have definitely got 915 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: kicked out from my mom. And if they knew this 916 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: part of it, it's like, what's wrong with Get behind 917 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: the mattress and do the rough. I'm like, all right, okay, 918 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: I look at it. So I go do the rough. 919 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: He's like, something ain't right about the sound. I don't 920 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: know if it's the A C or whatever. We gotta 921 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: go to a real Stowe studio and do it. So 922 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: we book another studio. I go in there, I do 923 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: the vocals, you know, clean or whatever, and I leave 924 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: and we go eat and I come back and I 925 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: have been blessed. He heard the record. He loved it. 926 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: He jumped on it. He jumped on the record. He 927 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 1: went in there. He what you know what I'm saying? 928 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: That happened, go back to California, played the record for 929 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: the company. They're all excited. I can feel the energy 930 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: of my life about to change. Like y'all really like 931 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: this record because a lot more where they came from. 932 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, can I beat myself? You know what I mean? 933 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 1: Because I can do this? So time pass. I don't 934 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: hear anything. I don't hear anything. I remember signing papers 935 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: giving away all my publishing. I remember sitting in the 936 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: clk M saying, signing some long paper. That's it. So 937 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: many other people was in the studio that wasn't there 938 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 1: when I wrote the song. But okay, I didn't understand it, 939 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I signed the paper 940 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I was told, if you want to 941 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 1: be a big star, you need to start the paper. 942 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: I was like, really, it's like, how much do I get? 943 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: You know? I say, I see fifty, and I'll see 944 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: you a six, and you know, I see all these 945 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 1: big numbers and I got five some five. I don't 946 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: know what this means, but don't see not the entire 947 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 1: record London role with me, and we did take like 948 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: a B section from a song that we did when 949 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: we worked with Tricky and a T. And I think 950 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 1: that's when it got tricky because now you got, oh 951 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: that was inspired by a beat I made. And then 952 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: and they started fighting, and I'll tell you girl, fight 953 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: went into the black list because of this. It's I 954 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: don't I ain't seen the dime I've gotten paid from 955 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 1: other things, but that publishing that was a joke. It 956 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: was so many people fighting over the guitar player. It 957 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 1: was just so much stuff. I just remember hearing all 958 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: these and I don't know what's true, but I remember 959 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: hearing a lot of story. You ain't seeing no money 960 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: because so and so, um, you know. I didn't like. Yeah, 961 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: it was all of that, and I signed for my father. 962 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: I said, what's the problem, guys, I should be the 963 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: one fighting. So I remember that day. I remember sitting 964 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: in the Mercedes a little bit little Mercedes signing over 965 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: and I remember feeling like, dang, this this kind of 966 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: this don't feel good, you know what, I mean to 967 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: like work that hard? And then five just didn't seem good. 968 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: Just it seemed like a good number. When you saw 969 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: other you know, big numbers up there. So did that. 970 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: I was kind of down, kind of forgot about it. 971 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: It was quiet calling a record company, couldn't get them 972 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: on the phone, like hey guys, you know, hey, you know, 973 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: am I still gonna be a big star. So I 974 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: was like, let me just let me take a take 975 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: a back seat. So I was gonna go to Houston, 976 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: and I heard I needed to rub elbows with the 977 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: the DJs in Houston. It was like, you need to 978 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: go home to where you came from, and you know 979 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, make sure it's yeah, make sure it's 980 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,439 Speaker 1: cool out there. So we land. We're in a car. 981 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm riding a car. My song come on, and I'm like, 982 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm irritated with Londons. I'm like, you keep playing the 983 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 1: song over and over again, like we heard now. I'm irritated, 984 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: Like it just needs to be on the radio. He 985 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: was like, it's on the radio. It's on the radio. 986 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 1: And I hear it right and I big boy comes in. 987 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm like hold on, Like my cheeks are like wait, wait, wait, 988 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: wait wait, is that big Boy from Outcasts on my song? 989 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,439 Speaker 1: Like is this really happened? I'm screaming about to lose 990 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: my mind, lost my voice. No, I did not know 991 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: Big Boy was gonna be on the record until I 992 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: heard it on the radio. Like I was worrying getting 993 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 1: shopped down, this whole thing. Big Boy and Little John 994 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: is on my first single, and I'm back home in Houston, 995 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: really nice and it's on the radio. I go to 996 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 1: the radio station. They loved me. They're like, yeah, we remember, 997 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, you was at rap a lot and blah 998 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: blah blah, and we didn't know who you were. And man, 999 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: I heard you on this song and all of that stuff. 1000 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: And then it's just like it just you know, it 1001 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: just goes from there. But I mean, it just out 1002 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,919 Speaker 1: of nowhere. And they said, they said the record league, 1003 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: they wasn't prepared. We didn't have art for it. I 1004 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: had to go. They rushed me to work with Jonathan 1005 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: to get pictures. Yeah, Jonathan, Man, it was putting you 1006 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: with all everybody. Yeah, that's the one thing of this story. 1007 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was. I was to work with the 1008 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: real people. Like they put you in a spot. Oh yeah, 1009 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: I can only imagine what your budget was. Um, you 1010 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: definitely didn't recoup. Let me get him this publish immediately 1011 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: put me with Chris Robinson to shoot the video good 1012 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: Boy at L Down, got all the permans to shut 1013 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: it down a freeway. Everything just went crazy. I know, 1014 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: we spent a million dollars on the video, and back 1015 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: then I was like, are you really had to give 1016 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: it to him myself? I'm on there, I'm like, y'all, 1017 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: good point. I wanted to know how much money was 1018 00:57:53,840 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: being spent. Right, you know we have of our show. 1019 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ready for it. Oh gosh, 1020 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think I got my take a deep 1021 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: breath for real quick. Yeah you listen, you just said 1022 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: that terrible but with some names attached. So yes, but 1023 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: this story has to okay. So the segment is called 1024 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: I ain't saying on that right, and it's something about 1025 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: you y'all loving hip hops. Man, you'll like the same 1026 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: names man shout out to hit maker. Young birds just 1027 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: could not tell a story. No, he couldn't pull it off. 1028 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 1: He had to, he said, I got to it. So 1029 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not okay. So those are the rules of the game, 1030 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: mhmm of the segment to not say any names and 1031 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: tell us a funny are funked up story? Industry related 1032 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: industry people, and you could say enough for people made. 1033 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, they can try to figure some out. But 1034 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: it's card I ain't saying on that. Oh my lord 1035 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: is terrible. Okay, give us Oh Lord, I got so 1036 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: many Can I tell a two part story real fast? 1037 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: I know women could be long. I ain't saying no names, 1038 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: but it's a certain female. She really tall, she got 1039 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: real short hair. She looked banging for her age. I 1040 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: walked into the I would say the apartment that I 1041 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: was sharing with my baby daddy at the time when 1042 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: she was in a bid. But Nikki, that's the one part. 1043 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. But there's another female. She 1044 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: was in a movie that we all love. This movie 1045 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 1: has a lot of sequels to it. It's a one 1046 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: to three folk Okay, she real cute. She got a 1047 00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: bootook cuty with a booty. Um she was I was saying, 1048 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to say she was dating the guy 1049 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: that I was with at the time. She was blowing 1050 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: him off because I heard she was good at that. Um. 1051 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't even think they got to the point of 1052 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: actual you know. The meeting in the green was just 1053 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of like when you get down there and do 1054 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: what I heard you was good for. But that's just 1055 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: my side of the story. Girl. You can come to 1056 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: the couch and tell it because you know who you are. 1057 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: You know who you are, sis, because you still be 1058 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: telling your jacked up side of the story you're talking 1059 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: about I'll be trying to jump you, and you know 1060 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't be trying to jump you when I see you. 1061 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: How am I trying to jump you? When I see you? 1062 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: When it's just me by myself. When you're trying to 1063 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: jump somebody, that means it's several people. It just beat 1064 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: me running up on you, girl. Okay, So anyway, so 1065 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 1: just not a run up. I walked swiftly, Hey girl, 1066 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Hey girl, And she's like, brook, I always trying to 1067 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: jump me? Would she see me? I'm not trying to 1068 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: jump it's just me, and I make sure I'll tell 1069 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: my girl stand back right there. But anyway, this young 1070 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: lady was at a beauty shop getting her hair done 1071 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: by celebrity hairstylis. I ain't gonna say no names because 1072 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: she do all of our hair, and she was talking 1073 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 1: mad noise. She was like, I don't know who she 1074 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: thinks she is. She'd just be coming up in the 1075 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: studio because the dude I was talking to it was 1076 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: both talking to. He had a studio at the time. 1077 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: She's like, she's just be coming up in a studio 1078 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 1: like she owned it. She's gonna have to run meet 1079 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 1: and keys. She gonna have to run meet and keys. 1080 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: So I'm like, So they called me and they tell 1081 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: me I'm riding in the car. I got my son 1082 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 1: in the bag. I'm like, good, baby boy, all right, 1083 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: call my mama, My mama, Mama, you you're good, You're 1084 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,919 Speaker 1: done at the nail shop. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna 1085 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: drop the kid off to you. I need to handle 1086 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: something right, gree Mama. She said, okay, I'll take drop 1087 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 1: my son off. This one, I knew I was certified 1088 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: crazy and had to get out the relationship. I found 1089 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: out where she was. She was in the studio at 1090 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: the time. I say, this the door. This is the 1091 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: this is the keys to the door that you speak 1092 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: of that I had to run. I just drove my 1093 01:01:53,400 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: car into the studio because now I don't nobody need 1094 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: no keys, and I gave it. Here's the key to 1095 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: the door, just the doors under the car. And they're 1096 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: sitting there. They're sitting there looking at me crazy like 1097 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm crazy. You know what. I ain't gonna call you 1098 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: that because I don't know no more. Now we don't 1099 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,919 Speaker 1: have to talk about this door no more. We're gonna 1100 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 1: worry about this door and who's got the kid who 1101 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: walking through this door? Like they own no more the doors. 1102 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: We will try to know Ho ho by that bus stop. 1103 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Just you know, y'all know range rovers they really built 1104 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: for it. Took they built for it because what I 1105 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: drove outing with vehicles, drove outing with home and got 1106 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: the baby milk and everything, Like, what kind of tore 1107 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: that door? I think that's a great way to Yeah, um, 1108 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: they are old. If you want to talk, she's steal 1109 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: shouts out. That's don't down, it's that's I'm gonna get 1110 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: out of here. Um okay, I'm just out of This 1111 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: is Bruce Beutam and this is been R. B. Money