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Speaker 1: Are you leaving on?

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Speaker 2: You wanna way back home? Either way, we.

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Speaker 3: Want to be there.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us

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Speaker 2: time and a termino and gay. We want to send

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Speaker 2: you off in style. You wanna welcome you back home?

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Speaker 2: Tell us all about it. We scared her? Was it fine? Malcorn?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need you ride?

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Speaker 4: Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need

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Speaker 4: a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks And.

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Speaker 2: This is Karen Kilgariff. Hello, my friend, Hello, my friend.

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Speaker 2: At the end of twenty twenty two, I have.

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Speaker 4: Here in front of me your new pickleball paddle.

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Speaker 2: Oh the best paddle, it says on the box.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's a Apparently, Jamie Fox, the actor egat

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Speaker 1: multi talented celebrity, is weighing a pickleball and he makes

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Speaker 1: those paddles.

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Speaker 2: Jamie Fox did not send us pickleball.

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Speaker 1: It is his pickleball company. No, it's just the paddle.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I might as well show it to you. Yes, please,

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Speaker 1: it's cool, it's in there.

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Speaker 2: It's pre dude, I'm getting that I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: that from you.

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Speaker 1: It is for you, and I'm not going to take

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Speaker 1: credit for it, because it was they were giving them

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Speaker 1: away at this golf tournament I did, and Hannah Drake Littman,

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Speaker 1: who works for the Heart Foundation, sent me. Because I

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Speaker 1: didn't get my trophy after I won, I left because

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Speaker 1: I was sad I didn't win the chipping contest. So

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Speaker 1: it's really a present from Hannah. But because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't play pickleball, I was thinking about myself, but

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Speaker 1: I was in my head because I was golfing. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Hannah sent you this, so it's from her. Hannah I together.

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Speaker 1: It's a dual gift.

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Speaker 2: Oh are we supposed to share it?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: She just was listening to the episode where you and

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Speaker 1: Dave were talking about, Hey, we should start playing pickleball,

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Speaker 1: and so she's thoughtful and said, oh shit, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you just for a second here, I was going

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Speaker 1: to take credit and I backed out. And that's what

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Speaker 1: Christmas is all about. Like you were going to say

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Speaker 1: you got.

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Speaker 4: It for me, I was. I was going down that road,

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Speaker 4: that that bumpy road.

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Speaker 2: Of lies to very You know what though, what a

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Speaker 2: what a tempting road that is to be like, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: you know I listen to what you say, and I

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Speaker 2: was thinking, what would you like most for Christmas?

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Speaker 1: I could have got it, would have done that, and

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Speaker 1: then I realized we talked about it. So I went

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Speaker 1: and I purchased from Jamie Fox personally.

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Speaker 2: Trunk the trunk of his car.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying not to turn down though it was Roads

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Speaker 1: of Lies, good healthy.

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Speaker 2: Also, if Hannah listens to the podcast, then she may

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Speaker 2: may have heard you get to steal the credit, and

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Speaker 2: then then she would probably go to Jamie Fox and say,

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Speaker 2: not only should we not have given this, but now

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Speaker 2: you have an enemy, right, an enemy.

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Speaker 1: In high places? Oh boy, that would be Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: it was out of fear. I get backed out.

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Speaker 2: I think it's smart. Whatever it takes for you to

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Speaker 2: not lie, whether it's fear, future repercussions and recriminations from

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Speaker 2: Jamie Fox, any of it, you don't want it.

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Speaker 1: No, No, he's a man I've always been scared of.

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Speaker 4: Quite muscular.

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Speaker 2: My very first writing job was on a sketch show

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Speaker 2: so long.

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Speaker 3: Ago.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny. But we were on the Warner Brothers

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Speaker 4: To travel your first staff writing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Almost never been the best behind the scenes decisions.

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Speaker 2: Look at it suit a look at his The budgets

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Speaker 2: then we started doing this thing where you would figure

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Speaker 2: was really exciting. And he's like, Jamie Fox is one

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Speaker 1: Even forget like there's a video going around right now

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Speaker 4: Better than anyone, and Snoop Dogg.

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Speaker 1: It's like one of those shows where they're in a

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Speaker 1: singer actor. He's got it all and he's.

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Speaker 2: A hell of a pickleball player and he's so he

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Speaker 1: I His name was thrown around with these paddles so

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Speaker 2: So I have to get that for you before I

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Speaker 1: Everyone that I drop you off there's like San Francisco

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Speaker 4: I'm just I've just been holding it for you.

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Speaker 2: I love that though. That's kind of fun. It's almost

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Speaker 2: like the you know, the year in review of gifts

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Speaker 2: I know that know how to play pickleball and know

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Speaker 2: well we should just go and we should find courts

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Speaker 2: and we should like in La. Yeah, like that's so intimidating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. It is. I need to be told.

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Speaker 1: Like I subbed in a kickball game last week, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever played kickball. I was

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Speaker 2: And team team based because you when you do your individuals,

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Speaker 1: At no point, even when I missed a catch or

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Speaker 4: And it's and.

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Speaker 2: It's also kickball, like it's kickball, which you can say

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Speaker 2: But it didn't happen, just like all of a sudden.

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Speaker 4: To my next subject.

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Speaker 1: You been rewatching any of the Peanuts Thanksgiving or Christmas

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Speaker 2: I personally have not. Charles Schultz is from Santa Rosa,

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Speaker 2: very much ingrained. Also, my sister, being a first and

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Speaker 2: second grade teacher, shows her class both of those at

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Speaker 2: So I'm always like, hat, did you show him? Did

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Speaker 2: you show him the Thanksgiving one yet? Because I think

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Speaker 2: I've told you this. My sister on Thanksgiving shows her

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Speaker 2: Brown feast that Snoopy makes them she makes for the kids,

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Speaker 2: realized that's what I've wanted to do since I was

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Speaker 2: like six years old watching that special, Like, how's fun

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Speaker 2: is with it? They're doing, do what they're doing, what

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Speaker 2: they're eating, like live, you know, Live Linus's life, Live

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Speaker 2: Peppermint Patty's life. Although can I just say first, first,

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Speaker 2: we'll do the Thanksgiving special. People have pointed this out

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Speaker 2: on social media. I find it absolutely jaw droppingly horrifying.

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Speaker 2: Franklin is sitting on one side of the table by himself,

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Speaker 2: Literally, as a kid, we're all we're all just like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I didn't even I didn't even realize that perfectly perfectly

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Speaker 1: Just as excluded. They are so hard on that. It's

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Speaker 2: it wrong that we're having Christmas as Oh, this isn't

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Speaker 1: pronounced it.

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00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: That's pretty.

440
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: Last night, the Improv had a Christmas party and I

441
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: kind of went there hesitantly because I knew it did

442
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: be packed, and I wasn't sure, you know, I was

443
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: worried that I wouldn't know anyone. It was the best

444
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: hanging out with Bill Dwyer. He was so fun and funny.

445
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: I was wishing you were there because it was so

446
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: much fun and everyone was in such a good mood.

447
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: Wire is we should have him on. He is truly

448
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: the funniest kid he is.

449
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: He's great, and he's always in a good mood, and

450
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: he always like wants to riff and play games, and

451
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: he makes me feel like a kid again. It makes

452
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: me think of the first time I met him on

453
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: the road featuring for him, and we were just inventing

454
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: games in the condo, throwing frozen peas across the room

455
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: into the He would open the freezer and I'd throw

456
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: frozen peas and he'd try to close it before I

457
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: could get it in there.

458
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 4: Frozen pie's were everywhere. We were laughing.

459
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: We weren't been drinking, we were just I'm like, this

460
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: guy is the funnest.

461
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: He's the truly the best. He also has one of

462
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: the greatest jokes where he's like he puts up his

463
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: hand and I think at the time he was married,

464
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: but so he had a gold ring on and be

465
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: like Bill Dwyer and then he'd pull the ring up

466
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: and go Bill Dwyre at the mall. Remember that. Like,

467
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: he is truly one of the best comedians if you

468
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: have a chance to see him, you have to go

469
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: see him.

470
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: He's so hilarious. He often says, Bill.

471
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 2: D Bill at the mall, and he's kind of turning

472
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: at the waste like a weird automaton and showing everybody

473
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: him being single at the mall. He's he's And also

474
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: we used to work. One of my very very first

475
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: any kind of comedy writing jobs was on like an

476
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: internet comedy news show. It was crazy. Me and John

477
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: Matta and Bill Dwyer all work there. And Bill was

478
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: the first of all his jokes. He would just write

479
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: like three pages of jokes that were the whole show. No.

480
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: I was sitting there trying to put ideas together, like

481
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: feeling so terrible about myself, and Bil dwirts jokes were

482
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: just like, okay, well there we go. That's that's all

483
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: we need. He's so good. And then he would do

484
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: stuff like one time he was just gone for a

485
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: while and then I hear him out in the hallway.

486
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: He's like, Karen, hey, Karen, come out here for a second.

487
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: So I go outside and he's not out there, and

488
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: then I look up and he's holding himself up on

489
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: the between the wall and the ceiling like Spider Man,

490
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: like to scare me and it just purely to do it.

491
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: Like and this is a man that had like three

492
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: or four kids. Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't like a

493
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: college student.

494
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: And last night he was wearing a black velvet sport

495
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: coat with a red like nice dress shirt underneath a

496
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 1: what looked almost handmade a knit Misfit sweater, a black

497
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: with the giant Misfits skull. Yeah, he couldn't have been

498
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: work but Christmas y. He was Christmas punk rock last night.

499
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm looking around, I'm like, no one

500
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: is cooler than him, because I was close because I

501
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: had my new glasses on, which, by the way, I

502
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: lost last night. I'm trying not to beat myself over it.

503
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: But they got to be in the improv somewhere. Yeah

504
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: they are. They're They're somewhere. They're under I'm after this.

505
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to go find them. I'm not going to

506
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: worry about it. But bil Dwyer was the cool his

507
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: style wise.

508
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: He was. He was the winner last night. We had

509
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: so much. Damn all these faces of people.

510
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I really, even when I do comedy shows, you're not

511
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: hanging out like that.

512
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: No, you're just always coming and going are like, yeah, wait,

513
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: name other people because this is I miss Bildwyer so much.

514
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: Who else was there that I would have find me see?

515
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Even people like Greg Hahn is this ex marine Like

516
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: he's huge, like Gary Golman, but he used to open

517
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: for Daniel Tosh back when I was doing it, and

518
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: he's the goofiest, silliest comic ever that doesn't use his

519
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: impending stature. He's just ridiculously funny. And I was so

520
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: excited to see him and tell him like, hey, I'm

521
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: a big fan of yours and I always have been

522
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to tell you that, and he

523
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: really appreciated it. It was just all the It was

524
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: a everyone was in a good mood and saying sweet

525
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: things to each other. And that was one of the

526
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: first times, like you and I when we were podcasting

527
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: over the Quarantine, we were like, I promise I'm going

528
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: to go to parties. I'm going to appreciate being there.

529
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say no to things. Last night

530
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: I finally felt like, Okay, everyone is on the same

531
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: page with enjoying being around each other. It was just

532
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: it was just, I mean, even Aaron Pooler von Shannenfeldt,

533
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: the first booker that liked me there was there and

534
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: I was so happy to see her. I was Zoe

535
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: Friedman had been there. It was just the staff there.

536
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to see Eddie. I want the text bartender

537
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Eddie because I haven't seen him in forever. Craig, the

538
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: bartender that used to bartend during your show with April.

539
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: He was there, and he's so funny and fun.

540
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh so nice.

541
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

542
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: I just had a lot of great interactions, even with

543
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: comics whose names I don't remember because it's been so long.

544
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: I was still hey you, I'm so happy to see you,

545
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: just avoiding names.

546
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 4: It was so fun, it was that's awesome.

547
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, really put me in the Christmas spirit, which is

548
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: why I asked.

549
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: You about your relationship with christ.

550
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: I went to see Jonathan Richmond last night. Do you

551
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: care about his music?

552
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: I don't not care about it because I don't know

553
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: who he is.

554
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: You.

555
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: I bet if you heard a song you would because

556
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: he's been around since like late sixties, seventies, and he

557
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: had that song road Runner, road Runna Donna, and he

558
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: has the song and I want to take his place

559
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: straight And it's a song about like this guy's a

560
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: stoner and I'm not a stoner and I want to

561
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: take his place.

562
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: Well I can.

563
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't recognize those songs, but I can tell the

564
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: way you're casually singing them that it might be right

565
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: up my alley.

566
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know in the movie Something about Mary,

567
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: there's a troubadour guy that walks through and side guy.

568
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, it's him.

569
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: And so he's been around forever and he got this

570
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: kind of like after Something about Mary, there was like

571
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: this peak of like this guy or whatever. But there's

572
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: of course he's like a musician's musician, so there are

573
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: people that have been following him since day one, and

574
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: he is truly his music is so listenable and it's

575
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 2: so perfectly done. And he's opened with the song that

576
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell. I think he was making it up

577
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: on the spot, and it was he was talking. He

578
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: just started talking about like like love is in the air,

579
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: but you you have to be available and you can't

580
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: numb out, and we've all numbed out and it's this

581
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: whole thing. But he does it really kind of like

582
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: over dramatically. It's just it was so delightful and he

583
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: started exactly at eight o'clock. He's seventy years old, but

584
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: he's like but you wouldn't know it. You'd think he

585
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: was liked. And he's got like a he plays guitar

586
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: and it's like acoustic, and then he's got like a

587
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: percussionist on stage with him that most dude plays like,

588
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what the instrument is, but I would

589
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: say bongo's be in the but it's not. There's a

590
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: drummer that's really furious it's not, but I shouldn't and

591
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: can't Secca. Well, it's like he's just percussion. So he's

592
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: just like the he's backing him up. And he has

593
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: a song called Dancing at a Lesbian Bar that was

594
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: his closer, like everyone knows that one that.

595
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: I've heard that I've heard.

596
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like but it felt it was

597
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: that kind of thing where everyone was very quiet and

598
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: listening so hard, and he was doing all this stuff

599
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: and being very like it just felt like actual art.

600
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: And one of his songs was like people have no shame,

601
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: they they steal everything, and then he just goes into

602
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: a Santana riff, like at first you think he got

603
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: a song stolen from him and that's why he wrote

604
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: this song. And then he just basically ends the song

605
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: by ripping off Santana and it's so funny. Like and anyway,

606
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: the show ended like like at eight forty five or

607
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: eight fifty, we were in the car by nine o'clock,

608
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: where I'm like, this is exactly what I am talking

609
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: about of going to a concert where it's like it's

610
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: almost like you get just a direct injection of like

611
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: beautiful artistry and somebody who's authentic and cool and original,

612
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: and then you just get out.

613
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Of there's you wanting more. He doesn't over to stay that. Well,

614
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: it's funny that I hope that it part of you.

615
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you can feel however you want. But you

616
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: do that to audiences too, and everything you just described

617
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: i've seen you do.

618
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Uh, thank you. So I.

619
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Don't I don't know. I know you're taking and you

620
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: can take a break. I mean, my dad said, no,

621
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't paint. I'm gonna paint when I'm retired, and

622
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: he took twenty some years off, and sure enough, you've

623
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: seen how good he was when he picked it back up.

624
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: There's no I'm not adding pressure again. But you you're

625
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: very good and you do that also, and you yeah,

626
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: your songs aren't comedy songs necessarily, but you're funny in

627
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: between everything you just said about this guy, you're a

628
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: truebadore Karen.

629
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: Well, but there's something, you know what it was, I

630
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 2: think I got to really appreciate because there's people and

631
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: that I think. You know, when you're left to your

632
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: own devices, you tell yourself a bunch of shit that

633
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: you think is like reality, that you're not being, that

634
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: you are prote do a thing you actually can't do,

635
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: or whatever evil voice I have in my head that's

636
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: always just like, don't do that. It's super embarrassing, and

637
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: watching him do that where I'm like, oh, this is

638
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: where I got the idea, Like listening to this guy

639
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: and watching this guy or watching someone like Daniel Johnston,

640
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: watching people who are like I don't really care if

641
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm the best guitar player in the world. I have

642
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: this idea and I think you're gonna like it, and

643
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: that energy itself will work like you can that is enough,

644
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: and you just have to kind of execute that in

645
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: a way that where it's very difficult, that you have

646
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: to be vulnerable enough to kind of like then give

647
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: people that no matter what they're gonna give you back,

648
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: which is this guy has been Jonathan Richmond has been

649
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: like essentially doing that thing around people loving him or

650
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: you know whatever. He doesn't give a shit. He's I've

651
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: seen him three times over the last twenty years, and

652
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: he is the same every time in that energy of

653
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: like he likes to put his guitar down and just

654
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 2: dance around and people kind of go like at first,

655
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: people go like whoo, like they're playing along almost like

656
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: comment on. But then after a while you're kind of

657
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: like this rules, like this guy loves what he's doing.

658
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would though, I would like I just was

659
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: imagining if you put down the guitar and started doing that.

660
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not it just seems out of character

661
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: for you, but the visual of it just made me happy.

662
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: You started like like a ma like my mom when

663
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: she had some wine, like started essentially just.

664
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Kind of hands and hips, hands and hips.

665
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: Hands and hips, paper, Yeah, plant table, plant table, just run.

666
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: Like Scooby Doo down around the stage.

667
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's funny because I saw you throw

668
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: it together at the last second. One of my favorite

669
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: songs you did and I'm biased. Of course, was for

670
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: our podcast, but you how did you ever do a

671
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: long version of the my favorite murder.

672
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: Song No I Meant To? And it was like, I

673
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: think the that's so funny because that show was supposed

674
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: to be a placeholder, but it was this thing where

675
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: I was just like, I know what I want this

676
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: song to sound like, so here I'll just give an example.

677
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: And then basically George was like okay, and then it

678
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: was like and then we just were like now we're

679
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: doing it now, like now it's happening, so we're not

680
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: going to go back and find we're not going to

681
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: buy a song or you know what I mean. And yeah,

682
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: So then I think there was a point in time

683
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: where I was like, I should write that as a

684
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: whole song. But then now it's about it's almost like

685
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: it's just a sting. It's just like a little intro.

686
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 2: It isn't I don't think it is a whole song.

687
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Well, there is a artist she's I think they it's Texas.

688
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: So she's Female Artist of the Year in Austin, but

689
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: she's married to Guy Forsa Forsyth. This an artist, a

690
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: blues guitarist that I remember went back when I lived

691
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: in Austin, and she did. She sent me a message

692
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: and sent a link to a full length version of

693
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: the song, and it is haunting and sounds like it's

694
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: from True Detective and you have to hear it.

695
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: I it's is that in the box with all my

696
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: other shit?

697
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: Yes, it's one of your gifts.

698
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: But she sent a message and I and I finally

699
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: read it. It's like, please have Karen listen to this.

700
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: And I listened to it and it's so good. But

701
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: she said that on some podcasts. You said, I don't

702
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: know that I could recreate what I did. I don't

703
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: for my favorite murder song.

704
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like I always use a capo

705
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: because I can't do bar chords. And then so wherever

706
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: the capo was is a mystery. I'm sure someone could

707
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: figure it out. And then I know I was doing

708
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: a little hammer thing. I mean, I can only play

709
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: five chords, so it's it's probably a to see something

710
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 2: like something minor. Maybe I'm not.

711
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Sure, but I think you'll love here. I'll send you

712
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Jazz becaud Of it's her name. I'll send you this song, please,

713
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: du I would love to hear it. Yeah, I mean

714
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: My point is you inspire people as a musician. You

715
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: should do it again if you want. That's all I'm saying.

716
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: Geez, yes you thank you. Of course that's nice. I

717
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: like that idea. It's you know what it is. Music

718
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: is just like when people get it right. And I

719
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: feel like this is why so many people love to

720
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: do their own music. It's because, like it is such

721
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: a very specific kind of expression and it is so

722
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: fucking fun if you do it, like you can do

723
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: it by yourself and have a really good time, but

724
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: also the more people that do it with you, then

725
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: there's this like insanely powerful communal thing. Did I tell

726
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: you about that? I did Brian, I did this show

727
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: at Permanent Records Roadhouse and it's called bring your Own

728
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: Cover Band, I think, And so we went and we did.

729
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: They wanted to do PJ.

730
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: Harvey and Brian Cook and those guys. Yep, yeah it's.

731
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: Brian Cook and Wood sure yeah Rick Rick Wood. Does

732
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 2: Rick have the same last name as Andy Wood? Anyway,

733
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: all the Wood, the entire Wood family is there and

734
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: they're playing woodwinds. But we did win Wood. We did PJ.

735
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: Harvey songs, and I love her. Of course the very

736
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: big deal ninety, Like I had all these nineties feelings

737
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: where I was just like, oh this there's some big

738
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: ship yeah memories here. But one of the songs they

739
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: were like there already picked a couple that they wanted

740
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: to do, and then I was like, guys, we have

741
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: to do Kamakazi. It's like the fucking coolest song of

742
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: all time. When I went to rehearse it them, it

743
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: is like, now I think the drummer's name was Charlie, Shit,

744
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: I can't remember. He's super nice and an amazing like

745
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: he's a touring drummer. He plays with Belinda Carlisle, he

746
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: plays with like all these fucking cool people. He's like

747
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: the real deal, and he goes, I don't even know

748
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: how to say it, but what he's like, this is

749
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: in six six time or six one time. It was

750
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: some insane rhythm that, of course all those guys were

751
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: good at because they're really good musicians and they kind

752
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: of know how to do it when we were practicing.

753
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: But I picked it and I literally was like, I

754
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: don't know where to come in, Like I didn't because

755
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: it was this kind of like you have to hear

756
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: the song PJ Harvey Kamakazi. It's so fucking heavy and awesome,

757
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: and we rehearsed it and we only got to like

758
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: rehearse it three times on one night, and then I

759
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: was like, hey, are we gonna rehearse this again? And

760
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: Brian's like, you got it. It's gonna be fine because

761
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: it's like they they're already doing eight other songs and

762
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: they don't really care, and I'm like, fuck, I picked this.

763
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: I have to get this right. And so I just

764
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: listened to her version over and over and the night

765
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: of we went into that song and we fucking nailed it.

766
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: And it was it felt like I could fly, like

767
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: that feeling of like I know when to start, I

768
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: know this really well now I'm actually singing it. It

769
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: was so fucking cool in this way that I can't explain,

770
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: and it's very much like, you know, it's almost like

771
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: what do they call that, like rock rock camp or

772
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: whatever where people go and pay money to be an

773
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: aerosmith or whatever. That's what it felt like. But it's

774
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: like my friends who are also comics or musicians that

775
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: like to hang out and do it. It was the

776
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: It felt like the best thing I've ever.

777
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: Because I remember you being kind of nervous for that.

778
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: I was fucking shitting. I kind of was like, should

779
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: I tell them I'm sick or have COVID because that

780
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 2: idea where it's just like the beat was unlike anything

781
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: and I never even noticed before because of course it's

782
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: her song and her doing it, and it all is

783
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah, I get it,

784
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: and then once you sit there and it's like you're

785
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: getting counted in. I can't explain how. It was almost

786
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: like we were doing fancy jazz. It was so hard

787
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: to follow anyway, and we nailed it night of We

788
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: nailed it, like to a t. It was fucking rap.

789
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: I did a version of Red Red Wine that went

790
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: from Neil Diamond to ub forty and that was in

791
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: my early isn't reggae.

792
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: Hilarious if I do it? God days?

793
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: But I was so nervous, and I wish that we

794
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: had rehearsed more because I had the same feeling with

795
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: my college buddies when we went and did those punk songs.

796
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can all I have to do is

797
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: be confident on stage all the things you were telling

798
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: me to do.

799
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: Confidant, A confidant all.

800
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: I have to do is to be a friend and

801
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: a confidant to these golden girls of mine. That's and

802
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: I felt to do all these old punk songs that

803
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: everyone there recognized from skate videos and they're singing along

804
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: and I look back and these are friends of mine

805
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: that I was all scared and lived in the dorms

806
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: and met all these guys in college. It was there

807
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: were times where I'd be screaming, singing and I was

808
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: my eyes were tearing up. Yeah, it was windy and

809
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: we were outside, so that was part of it.

810
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: Shit.

811
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: I also was very emotional for me.

812
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: And we're we're doing shows again on my birthday weekend

813
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: in February.

814
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: We're doing the.

815
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: The slalom and we rent at a house and we're

816
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: going to rehearse for three days. And I'm not scared

817
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: this time. I'm just excited. So I have had a

818
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: taste of that.

819
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: But yes, it's it's incredible. It is like the fucking

820
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: greatest but also sorry, a bank slalom, what do you mean?

821
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Yes, it is one of the oldest snowboard contests. It

822
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: is a long, kind of rugged slalom course with big

823
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: burms like the walls you know, like race car walls

824
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: that are beveled up, and it's very fast and difficult,

825
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: and it's a snowboard contest that's gone on for like

826
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: almost forty years, if not more than forty. Where is

827
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: it at Mount Baker in Washington. Yeah, so we're running

828
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: up there and we're doing two shows and it's going

829
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: to be packed with people that I assume snowboarding and

830
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: skateboarding are enough of a crossover sport that I think people.

831
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: Will know these songs.

832
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm nervous, I'm also excited, but I really I

833
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: want to consult a voice coach. I got to learn

834
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: at least what I'm supposed to sound like and get

835
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: some tips. It's got to help. What do you think

836
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: should I do that sure? Or should I just practice?

837
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: Well, you can do both, but I think the most

838
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: helpful thing anyone ever took my friend Don Cummings, who's

839
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: the best singer, and he can play the piano and

840
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: sing and it's so impressed. But he's like, you have

841
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: to be breathing big the whole time. He's like, your

842
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: your gut is like a bellows and you're just filling

843
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: up with air and pushing the air back out and

844
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: that like thinking of it that way, because when you're

845
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: nervous and you get excited or whatever, it's all tightening

846
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: and you have to figure out how to stay loose

847
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: and relaxed. Yeah, which is very hard because that's it's

848
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: like the paradox of performing, where like that's the one

849
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: time you're the most harvis. It's so vulnerable to sing.

850
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: It's like so much more vulnerable than comedy. People don't

851
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: understand that. So it's like, so now you're your most

852
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: vulnerable and then you have to be at least as

853
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: relaxed as you can possibly.

854
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: And I know I wasn't doing it one.

855
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I sing from inside my skull, I go no further

856
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: down than my neck, and all of my vocals come

857
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: from my nasal passage and I pretty much hold my

858
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: breath in between lyrics, so I already know I'm doing

859
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: that wrong and I'm also screaming. But throughout a show

860
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: I started to figure it out. Like at the end,

861
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I sound like I know what I'm

862
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: doing right now.

863
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: I could, yes, because.

864
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: You just need the practice, but also I wonder I

865
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: bet you On like YouTube, you can look up vocal

866
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: exercises and vocal tips like vocal singing, singer tips or whatever,

867
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: because people have that knowledge to give.

868
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did watch some video that have me doing

869
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: like grumbling didgeridoo, like singing in my throat. Yes, I

870
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: don't know what that's for, but I did it and

871
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: it did help, like prime my vocal cords before the show.

872
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: And it's a mink of Australia at the time, which.

873
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: You always is relaxing. It is, I mean, snakes, gigantic spiders,

874
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: relaxing stuff.

875
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, kangaroos with razor sharp punching claws.

876
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Coming up over a hill as you're trying to relax

877
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: and have a picnic. Now you're fighting a.

878
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: King and their kid is staying all of it from

879
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: the pouch.

880
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: And then you're like, do you have the time to

881
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: listen to me wine?

882
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should do old there's Old Green Day in

883
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: some skate videos prior to Dookie. Yes, and I wouldn't

884
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: mind Billy Joel Armstrong, I guess all of Green Day.

885
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan anymore, but they did a

886
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: cover of some misfit song and I watched it over

887
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: and over and over. I just realized they are like

888
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: an amazing band. But it's just not something I grew up. Well.

889
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: Also, they were one of those first kind of like

890
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 2: a punk band that went to child or.

891
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Something, did they Yeah, Oh he's like a trained musician,

892
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah.

893
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: Like I just thought knew he was from the Bay Area.

894
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: But they went wide as a punk band, which of

895
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: course everyone's like you're a phony. And it was the nineties,

896
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: which was the worst era to live in maybe ever,

897
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: ye with that kind of shit that Kirk Cobain like

898
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: if you try, if you lift a finger to try,

899
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: you're immediately a fraud.

900
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, people notice you're trying.

901
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And it's like those guys. Comparatively, they were

902
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: a great band, and they wrote really hooky, great songs,

903
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: and they got a lot of shit for just like

904
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: being popular.

905
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: Yep, totally, that was That's the most anti punk thing

906
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: you can do, is have everyone like you.

907
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, that's right. Well, Well, I like this

908
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: idea of ourt that we're basically going to on this

909
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: podcast transform our years long comedy careers into brand new.

910
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: So lead vocalist, you know I'm gonna get and I

911
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: read these messages, I'm going to get a lot of

912
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: them that insisting you and I collaborate. I'm not read.

913
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: I have to fail on my own first. So the

914
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: answer is no, Karen, I know that you. That's where

915
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: this was leading. Do you want to do a duo?

916
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: Are? I can't handle your intense snowboard punk rock righter.

917
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: It's just a different vibe mine. I'm doing like a

918
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 4: lil style.

919
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: Your street style does not match up with my art

920
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: teacher crocheted vest PJ. Harvey covers. We'll get there, though,

921
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: We'll come back around. You should actually, once you do that,

922
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: you figure out you should tell Brian cookie you want

923
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: to do one of those, because yeah, Brian and Andy

924
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: love doing like any and all songs.

925
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah I was they we were talking about it and

926
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: I just didn't follow up.

927
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: But yeah, I do want to do that.

928
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 2: Because they also do Guilty Treasure, which is super fun.

929
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: That's what are you?

930
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

931
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one is my favorite.

932
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: Guess of course why I picked UB forty.

933
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: Of course I when Red red Wine comes on, I

934
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: don't have to be on a cruise ship. I will

935
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: enjoy it anywhere, but I have to be very private

936
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: about that. It's famously song people don't like. I guess, well,

937
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: I feel like.

938
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 4: I love Red red Wine.

939
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: It's here's the thing if you were if you were

940
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: a teen or preteen in like nineteen eighty two, that

941
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: thing was our like Brown Eyed Girl. It was on

942
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: everywhere all the time, like it was constant and you

943
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: couldn't get away from it, and it was this weird

944
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: kind of like it was. It's just so funny. Culturally,

945
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: it's such an odd breakout hit.

946
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, my sister had their albums.

947
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: Like to me, it was it was a cool like

948
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: English band that yes, you know, knowing about the specials

949
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: and madness, I kind of put it in that category.

950
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: But the video, that video was always on and it

951
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: was insane to me because he's singing about this this

952
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: woman that he's in love with that is cheating on

953
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: him with this other man. But it's the drummer of

954
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: the band. So during the shots where they're actually singing

955
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: the song, the guys just behind them drumming. But then

956
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: they go to these scenes where she's on a date

957
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: with him, and I'm like, just turn around and yell

958
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: at him. He's the drummer. They just should have hired

959
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: an actor out think it was very confused. They should

960
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: they must have made up because now we're singing. They're

961
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: singing the song together. He must not be mad anymore.

962
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: There's a band that I absolutely adore and they're kind

963
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: of like a they're like a comedy band out of

964
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: Ireland called the Rubber Bandits, and they have a song

965
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: called Roshane, I Want to Fight your Father, and it

966
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: is the funniest fucking thing you've ever seen. First of all,

967
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: these guys wear plastic bags on their faces and they

968
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: pull out the eyes in the mouth. But other than that,

969
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: they have a very tightly tied plastic bag on their head.

970
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: That would put me on.

971
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: Edge if I was watching, because we all know that

972
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: is classically how we lose children. Apparently, yes, well, you're

973
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: not supposed to wear plastic bags on your head.

974
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: No you are not. You're not supposed to. Doesn't look good.

975
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: It's disturbing. But during this song, and it's kind of

976
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: like they tried to make it like it's a it's

977
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of almost like an R and B

978
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: kind of jam song. It's a very good, funny song.

979
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: But at one point he's singing and he says something

980
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: about I'll pay for your tattoo or something, and then

981
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: in the video in the video. The girl's leaning on

982
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: the thing getting a tattoo on her back, and when

983
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: the camera comes around, she's getting you be Forty tattooed

984
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: on her back in like foot tall letters, and it

985
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: is the That reveal made me laugh for like five minutes.

986
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 2: I was like, that's the fucking funniest thing I've ever seen.

987
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: She's she just wants you be forty across her back.

988
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: It's so obscure.

989
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: I love in excess. The more time passes is mare,

990
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: I reave visit old songs. I have sort of a

991
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: crouch on Michael Hutchins because I want to be him.

992
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: I want to crawl into him and live him. Sure,

993
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: but he's dead. I know he's dead, but in my

994
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: mind he's still alive. I was at a cell phone

995
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: store one day and this guy had I just noticed

996
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: he was tattooed all over was script and I was

997
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: reading it and it was all his whole body was

998
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: covered in excess lyrics.

999
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: Oh whoa.

1000
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: Which at the time, I'm like, that's you're crazy. He's like, no,

1001
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: it's my favorite band. I don't think it's crazy anymore.

1002
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: I think that guy's awesome. But at the time I

1003
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: was like, wait, there's no way you're that into an excess.

1004
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: It's a huge commitment.

1005
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the songs on his arms, I mean it

1006
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: looked good. It was written like in typeface. It was like, oh,

1007
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: you are covered with information. You're like a digital prisoner

1008
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: from the future.

1009
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 2: You're you're digital prisoner from the future. If they made

1010
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: prisoners b liner notes in the future.

1011
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm what I'm saying is I'm going to

1012
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: get a big in excess tattoo on my upper back.

1013
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: Okay, good, that's that's what I wanted to hear. This

1014
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: wrap into that's your Christmas gift to yourself this year.

1015
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, give yourself some self care.

1016
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Bill Dwire, Oh I miss him. Also. I ran into him,

1017
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: you know, five years ago or something like that, wherever

1018
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: it was, and he was exactly the same. Here's what

1019
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: I love people like that that are just like, especially

1020
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: in la where people come to this town and you know,

1021
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: have great things happen to them and then have horrible

1022
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: things happen to them, and it's like it is a

1023
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: very difficult life to be like I'm going to be

1024
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: a comedian and try to make my way. It's fucking rough.

1025
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: And Bill has he's been like a game show host.

1026
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: He's done it all. He's so so good. Actually, that

1027
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 2: just reminds me I was going to write this fucking

1028
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: pilot that he I wanted. It was called The Bill

1029
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: Dilan Show, and it was poor man's copyright, although I've

1030
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: already written this so you can't steal it. But it

1031
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: was a guy who.

1032
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: It was recorded. That means, yeah, great, I own it. Yeah,

1033
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: it's copywriting.

1034
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: The digital copyright is taking place as we speak, yes,

1035
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 2: but it was it would be bildwire. And he plays

1036
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: the host of a variety show in like nineteen seventy two,

1037
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: who thinks that Lawrence Welk is a current host and

1038
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: he thinks he's competing with him, and so he's a

1039
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: local LA variety show host thinking he's like, I'm going

1040
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: to get him this week, and he doesn't understand that

1041
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: the shows are syndicated and they're from like ten years before.

1042
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: And no one telling why is no one telling him

1043
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: he's not voicing it in front of others.

1044
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 2: It's basically a behind the scenes chaos show of what

1045
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: it would have been like to work on a variety

1046
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: show in nineteen seventy two, when like the director, like

1047
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: the opening shot is the director. You hear the god

1048
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: mic where the director is telling a singer on the

1049
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: stage like don't take another step you're on and then

1050
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: it's like, because you know, do you remember on the

1051
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: Lawrence Welsh. This might be a reference that no one gets,

1052
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 2: but I was obsessed with Lawrence Well from childhood because

1053
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: my grandmother used to watch it and she'd be like,

1054
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: come in here and watch it with me, and so

1055
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: like oftentimes these seventies sets were like it would be

1056
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: a big, wide stage and then a woman standing halfway

1057
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: up on a staircase that goes nowhere, big curtains as

1058
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: far as yes, exactly, big tall, glittery curtains. The orchestra's

1059
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: over on the side and she's singing you know, moon River,

1060
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: but she's just on this weird staircase to nowhere, and

1061
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: it's all very dramatic, and so it's like she's her

1062
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: eyes are fully dilated because she's completely on some kind of.

1063
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: Pill phancing pills.

1064
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and so she's kind of and they're like,

1065
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: don't walk up those stairs. And it's the director and

1066
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: he's calling the shots, but he's drunk in the control room,

1067
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: like with a big.

1068
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: Glass of brown liquor, a simpler time. Everyone's smoking, Yes,

1069
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: everyone's smoking the entire time. And Bill Dwyer would be

1070
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 3: Bill Dillman. He's the host, so he's like, because wouldn't

1071
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: you be the perfect like seventies show host.

1072
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 4: I did you know that?

1073
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: I was on an MTV reality show called Seventies House

1074
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: where they took these kids and moved them into a house.

1075
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: They took away their flip phones. It was a long

1076
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: time ago, and Bill was the game show host. Like

1077
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 1: he'd come over and they'd be quizzed about seventies TV

1078
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: shows and inventions, and if they got them wrong, they

1079
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: got kicked off.

1080
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 4: And I just came over as the neighbor.

1081
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: I had a transiam and nunchucks and my hair was

1082
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: huge with a mustache. But Jimmy Walker was on it,

1083
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: Gallagher was on it. Natasha Lajero was the other host.

1084
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: It was like and he was so he had a long,

1085
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: skinny mic. I've seen him be a seventies game show

1086
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: host on MTV and he was amazing at it.

1087
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: He's the fixed. Yeah, he's Bill Dumman.

1088
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: And because we met him together, Bill and I more

1089
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: in the Loss of Gallagher. Just last night Oh, well,

1090
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: we talked about how much he really didn't like being

1091
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: on that show. Yeah, he did not enjoy himself, and

1092
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: I understood. I understood. They made him wear a hat

1093
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: with hair stapled to the inside so it looked like

1094
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: his old hair. That didn't probably make him feel good.

1095
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: Then don't take the fucking job. Here's the thing, it's

1096
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: the word no.

1097
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: Get to be honest.

1098
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: I know he just passed, but he was so mean,

1099
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: he was so mad. Yeah, but God rest him.

1100
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: I hope he's well. That's the thing place emotionally.

1101
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: This business it breaks people. It breaks people, it really does.

1102
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: It's hard. It's not an easy run. But we're doing

1103
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 4: okay with it.

1104
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: We really are. And I think in twenty twenty three,

1105
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: this is when everything's going to change. Oh really, when

1106
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: it's all going to come together.

1107
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and just just a plants safe.

1108
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four is going to be my year. I

1109
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: think I need another.

1110
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: Just for me personally, just one year of prep. I

1111
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: get it.

1112
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: I think as as humanity we will all blossom in

1113
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, But for me personally, success will come

1114
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four.

1115
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 4: I'm just putting it out there. I think that's safe.

1116
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: One year buffer nice, yeah, perfect.

1117
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: I think for for twenty twenty three, I'm going to

1118
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: become very limber. That's my thing. A lot of stretching.

1119
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 4: I think that's a good idea.

1120
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need it.

1121
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 4: Do you have rollers? Do you have massage guns?

1122
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: No? Okay, okay, I'll get those for I'll ask my

1123
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: sister for those for Christmas.

1124
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: Because I've been Yeah, I think it's very it's very

1125
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: important to just dig those into your problem areas.

1126
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to loosen it up.

1127
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

1128
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: But even just a basic, you know, touch your toes

1129
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: kind of show. I just I do it sometimes when

1130
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: I go into the kitchen, like wait for water to

1131
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: boil or something. Then I'm just like, I need to

1132
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: be doing this consistently and for an extended period of time.

1133
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1134
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: And I never have everyone I know stretches before they

1135
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: skateboard or do anything.

1136
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: I just go and do it.

1137
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: And anytime someone has lovingly come up behind me and

1138
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: put their hands on.

1139
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: My shoulders, they are horrified.

1140
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: Their hands retract immediately and they're like, good lord, You're

1141
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: like a knotted up stress ball. And I'm like, yeah,

1142
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry yeah.

1143
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: Then don't put your hands there if you don't like it.

1144
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: I start, oh my god, driving here.

1145
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: There is a place in Silver Lake called Pilates Punks,

1146
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: and so with an ax and I slowed down, and

1147
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: sure enough it was a plates class and everyone had

1148
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: purple mohawks.

1149
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: I almost drove the car off the road. So maybe

1150
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: I can.

1151
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: I assume they're listening to punk rock two, which seems

1152
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: like it would defeat the calming purpose.

1153
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, no, pilates is supposed to be calming.

1154
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: That's yoga. The pilates is like you're doing some serious

1155
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 2: stretching and extending of your spine right right, So they're

1156
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: just kind of like, yeah, muscles, because sometimes they do

1157
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: a thing where like you have to lift your heels

1158
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: off the ground and then lift your head off the

1159
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: ground and just stay there for three minutes.

1160
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: It's hard. Yeah, it is hard.

1161
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: And I did it a little bit here and it

1162
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: was easy to like cheat and look like you're doing it,

1163
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: but I was not doing it all in my core

1164
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: or where you're supposed to be focusing on. I was

1165
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: just like, you know, using special my own little fallback positions.

1166
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: And they I think they could tell I was cheating.

1167
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to cheat in there and not do

1168
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: it properly, and then you don't get the benefits. I

1169
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: would leave not sweaty, and everyone else would leave sweaty,

1170
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm doing this wrong, and.

1171
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: They're like, you're only cheating yourself, and then you can

1172
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: turn around and go. If this was nineteen ninety one,

1173
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: you'd all be fucked. You could never name your business this.

1174
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: Everyone would throw molotov cocktails through your front window.

1175
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: They are very punk rock at Pilate's punks oh darts,

1176
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: screaming about the queen, and I, uh, okay, can you hear?

1177
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: There are my neighbors, and I live up on a hill,

1178
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: so it hasn't bothered me too much. They bought a

1179
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: gaggle of roosters, and famously I thought that roosters only

1180
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: did that in the morning.

1181
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: But they do it all day.

1182
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they think at six am all day until and

1183
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: it's dark right now and they're still roostering. I believe

1184
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: it's the proper crowing. They're crowing, yeah, and they will

1185
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: not stop. Why do people have roosters as pets?

1186
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 4: That's all.

1187
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,479
Speaker 2: I just watched a TikTok about how good chickens are

1188
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: for like eating compost and they get rid of a

1189
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: ton of waste and stuff. But it's hard in the

1190
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: city because maybe they're stressed out or something. Yeah, I

1191
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: don't know. I can't hear it though.

1192
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 1: Okay, good, Well that's because I got a good mic

1193
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: and I'm using my proper vocal exercises.

1194
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 4: You're drawing deep rell, a lot of heavy breathing.

1195
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: We've got We've hit the hour mark.

1196
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: We're good.

1197
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: I hate to leave it on such a floppy dud

1198
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: with that rooster business.

1199
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, you want a non sequitur.

1200
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: I got lightheaded this rooster business started coming out of

1201
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: my mouth.

1202
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, why the hell am I going here? You

1203
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 4: know what, I knew you couldn't hear the roosters.

1204
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

1205
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: Why bring them up?

1206
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: Well, you were just trying to You're just trying to

1207
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: find the button. And we do have to allow we

1208
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: have to allow for the art to come in.

1209
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: I can't believe how much time has passed. You're you know,

1210
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the two of us, but it

1211
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: was like you were a fun guest today.

1212
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: Jump to a what if you button? What if you button?

1213
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 2: It with your new Year's a new Year's resolution.

1214
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I am going to therapy and I'm gonna see

1215
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: if there are certain pills that I could take that

1216
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: make me consistently happy.

1217
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: Well, if you find out, will you let me know?

1218
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 4: Yes?

1219
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: No, I think that I've gotten enough messages being diagnosed

1220
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: by everyone but doctors about this ADHD business, and I

1221
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: think that people are onto something the more I think.

1222
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: It's the reason I set aside my three hundred dollars

1223
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: glasses last night. I do have trouble focusing and the

1224
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: times I've not recreationally but just had a bit.

1225
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 4: Of an adderall.

1226
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: I am a winning, high performance version of myself, and

1227
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 1: you think that that would.

1228
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 4: Be a clear sign that.

1229
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have it on hand. But honestly, that

1230
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna I'm gonna find

1231
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: a therapist.

1232
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: And that's a great idea though, I mean, whatever they

1233
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: prescribe you aside and whatever the results, that's huge.

1234
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: I tell other people to do it all the time.

1235
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: When we do our ads, we're telling people therapy is

1236
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: and I haven't.

1237
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 4: I'm admitting that I'm admitting.

1238
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: It to you and better help and everyone I'm I'm

1239
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: going to do it and I mean it, and you

1240
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: can even follow up, I promise. Okay, it's important that

1241
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 1: whole area.

1242
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: Cut that whole area.

1243
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't mean to lay a big one on you. Now,

1244
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: what's your what's your resolution?

1245
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: I have to mind stretching, Okay, Like I think that

1246
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: really has to be and I like this idea. Both

1247
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: of us are picking out of the comfort zone things

1248
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: right where it's it's a scary thing to like figure

1249
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: out how to get a therapist or to actually sit

1250
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: there and be like, all right, I'm actually doing this

1251
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: thing because it's vulnerability with mine. I think it's like

1252
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: I want to get to the point where then I

1253
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: can go take a class and not feel self right,

1254
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: not feel really anything, just kind of go do it

1255
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: and feel fine, because right now my comfort zone is

1256
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: the only place I feel like I ever exist except

1257
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: for like working stuff, but anything else I'm always like, oh,

1258
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: I can't go to that. It's too oh I can't whatever,

1259
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: And it's like who gives a shit? Like that idea

1260
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: is getting to be It's just like I want to

1261
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: work on it without the excuse of it's supposed to

1262
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: somehow be exactly perfect or like comfortable for me where

1263
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: it's like I'm not comfortable doing physical things really anymore,

1264
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: and I need to get back to it because I

1265
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: used to take pilates classes three times a week, like

1266
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: that was the thing that was just like, yeah, you

1267
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: have to do it. You have to like move around

1268
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: and you remember.

1269
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: The older I get it felt good? Right, yeah, oh

1270
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: my god, okay, yes you do that. And both the

1271
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: things we're planning on doing is caring about ourselves and

1272
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: that will make us better people. Even I'm just gonna

1273
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: have I'm not even going to have expectations.

1274
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: I think just doing those things, yes, well makee.

1275
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: It'll be like an adventure. We'll both be having doing

1276
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: an experiment on ourselves.

1277
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, it's going to be a great twenty

1278
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 4: twenty four.

1279
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: You know what it is. I'm gonna start stretching so

1280
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: that I can get ready to consistently play Pickleball's that

1281
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: is my detailed one.

1282
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: I well, I have your paddle.

1283
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: It didn't come with the big yellow whiffle ball, but

1284
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: I did see it.

1285
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: And I can get my hands on one of those.

1286
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well I will drop this off before I

1287
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: leave Friday awesome.

1288
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: Perfect, I love that. Okay, great, all right, well then

1289
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: I'll see you soon. Thank you all for listening to us.

1290
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: Whether you've been listening for I don't know, has it

1291
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: been nine years, or for this last year, if you

1292
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: just joined us, whatever it is. Our audience is growing

1293
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: and we're not doing anything to make it happen except

1294
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: for that you guys are coming to listen, and so

1295
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say we really appreciate you as

1296
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: an audience. You're some of the nicest, warmest listeners and

1297
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: it's such a it's so fun that we know there's

1298
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: people out there that listeners talk about pickleball. Suddenly we

1299
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: have the best pickleball paddle in the business. Like that

1300
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: kind of support, and Chris gets it all the time

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Speaker 2: when he does his live shows. It's just so lovely.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's been every time I do a show and I

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Speaker 1: meet you guys, it is it. I get emotional. It's

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Speaker 1: we are so lucky that you are all amazing people.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, thank you very.

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Speaker 2: Much, and thank you Onalis for producing this show with

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Speaker 2: us and for being here and supporting us. And you've

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Speaker 2: been doing it for a while. I don't think we've ever.

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Speaker 2: Thank you on Mike Guest, thanks now, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: I seen that was way better than that rooster shit right.

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Speaker 2: We can pull out of any rooster hole you dig

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 4: I'll be like kicking eye, like a chicken and a breadpan.

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Speaker 2: With doe picking out doors. Happy holidays, everybody, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year. You've been listening to Do You Need

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Speaker 4: a Ride? D y n are? This has been an

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Speaker 4: exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Production produced by Analise Nelson, mixed by Edson Choy. Our

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Speaker 2: talent booker is Patrick Cootner.

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Speaker 4: Theme song by Karen Kilgarrett.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks. Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 2: and Facebook at dinar podcast That's d y n ar Podcast.

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Speaker 1: For more information, go to exactly Rightmedia dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh You're welcome.