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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 2: you hanging out with us. Thursday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have some fun. Carol Marco, what's going

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Speaker 2: to join us in the third hour part of the

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Speaker 2: Clay and Bucks Podcast Network New York Post Writer's groat.

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Speaker 3: I saw a great piece. She has a substack Buck.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this a little bit in the third

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Speaker 2: hour about the conversations that Jewish people in America are

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Speaker 2: having as the situation in Israel continues. What's that impact

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Speaker 2: going to be. We'll talk about all that, but right

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Speaker 2: off the top here not far from the Clay and

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Speaker 2: Bucks studios in New York City. I guess technically we

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Speaker 2: have three Clay and Bucks studios. Now we have the

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Speaker 2: Miami version where Buck Sexton is typically based, we have

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Speaker 2: the Nashville area version where I am typically based, and

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Speaker 2: then we have the New York City base where much

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Speaker 2: of the true is located. They're just off Sixth Avenue,

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Speaker 2: not far from Radio City Music Hall. For those of

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Speaker 2: you who knew, who know New York City, well, there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a twenty five million dollar fundraiser for

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden tonight featuring Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: If you donate one hundred thousand dollars, you can get

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Speaker 2: your picture made with all three of them. I don't

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Speaker 2: imagine that's very common to get your picture made for

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Speaker 2: those of you who are just history people with three

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Speaker 2: different either current or former presidents. I do think it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit interesting that they're claiming that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is a sexual predator, yet Bill Clinton is headlining the

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Speaker 2: fundraiser and nobody has any issue with it at all.

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Speaker 2: But all of the money they are going to just

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Speaker 2: throw money, Biden is going to be able to raise

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Speaker 2: money the likes of which you have never seen before.

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Speaker 2: And Buck, here's my thought on this. This News has

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Speaker 2: a new poll out Donald Trump five point lead. It

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Speaker 2: is the biggest lead that Donald Trump has ever had

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Speaker 2: in any Fox News poll in history over Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: right now, And there were a couple of things that

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Speaker 2: stood out to me that I want to hit you

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Speaker 2: with that I went through and looked at all the

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Speaker 2: numbers in this poll that to me right now, if

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Speaker 2: you ask me a little bit over seven months from

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Speaker 2: election day. How is this race going to be determined?

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Speaker 2: Here's what I think this comes down to. In the

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Speaker 2: Fox News poll in October of twenty twenty, right before

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty election, Joe Biden had a favorability rating

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Speaker 2: Buck of plus eleven fifty five percent favorable, forty four

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Speaker 2: percent unfavorable. Donald Trump had a favorability of forty four

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Speaker 2: and an unfavorability of fifty five, So minus eleven, twenty

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Speaker 2: two point different in favor of Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Now in March, all right, we've.

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Speaker 2: Gone from Biden plus twenty two in the last election

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Speaker 2: to the current Fox News poll. Joe Biden is minus

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Speaker 2: twenty one thirty nine percent favorable, sixty percent unfavorable. Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is forty five percent favorable, fifty four percent unfavorable.

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Speaker 3: In other words, nothing has really changed with Trump.

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Speaker 2: People generally about forty four forty five percent of people

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's unfavorability has collapsed. That is, people now really

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Speaker 2: dislike Joe Biden compared to when he won. I think

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Speaker 2: that basically is the race. So my question for you, Buck,

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Speaker 2: can they change this is it possible for Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: to change his favorability I think it's fair to say

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Speaker 2: nothing's going to change with Trump. Everybody he has already

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Speaker 2: made their opinion. To me, the question of the race

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Speaker 2: is can Joe Biden get his favorability ratings up? What

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Speaker 2: say you, well, I think that what you're seeing with

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Speaker 2: the all out fundraising effort and bringing together the most

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Speaker 2: because he's the president.

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Speaker 4: Right soever knows who Biden is, even though the fact

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Speaker 4: that he has a political brand at all is sort

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Speaker 4: of depressing for the country. But I've Biden, Clinton, Obama,

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Speaker 4: they're all together raising money in New York City. This

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Speaker 4: is what we've been saying all along, which is this

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Speaker 4: is a machine election, or rather, this is a brand

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Speaker 4: Biden is supposed to be effectively irrelevant. Right, You're voting Democrat,

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Speaker 4: You're not voting Biden. That's the way they're positioning this,

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Speaker 4: And the way they'll do this is they'll start to

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Speaker 4: talked here on the show Clay about the It was

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Speaker 4: that excellent piece and it was with the Obama biographer.

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Speaker 4: It was just in an interview where he talked about

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Speaker 4: think that would be a bigger story. I think that

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Speaker 4: they may actually start to talk more about that with

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Speaker 4: the idea that you know, it's it's not just that

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Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton. It takes a village approach. Right, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: get you know, the Clinton Clinton savvy, you're gonna get Obama,

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Speaker 4: as the president. Like they're going to try to package

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Speaker 4: this as all of the wisest men and women of

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Speaker 4: the Democrat Party are effectively on the ticket, and that's

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Speaker 4: all a branding exercise.

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Speaker 3: It's a but do you see what I'm saying?

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Speaker 4: Like I might think that they're going to have to

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Speaker 4: try to bolster the Biden ticket by making it all

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Speaker 4: which is I think very different than what you had

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Speaker 4: with Obama, where it was really about it was like

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Speaker 4: or whatever. But they were really pushing the man. This

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Speaker 3: And so can they do it? Of course? That's the UH.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much money's going to be spent.

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Speaker 4: call it three the three or four billion dollar question,

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Speaker 4: something like that. I will say that you mentioned this

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Speaker 4: Biden's mentions of Bidenomics. Yeah, chart from Axios. I pulled

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Speaker 4: July of twenty twenty three, he mentions it, or June

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Speaker 3: Last month he mentioned it one time once.

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Speaker 2: And and zero in February, two times in January. And

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Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy four times. So talk about something

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Speaker 2: blowing up in your face. Republicans have taken Bidenomics and

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Speaker 2: the other thing that I think this comes down to.

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Speaker 2: So I think li likeability. I think Biden was able

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Speaker 2: that's collapsed. Here's the other thing. Are you better or

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Speaker 2: worse off financially today than you were four years ago?

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Speaker 2: Twenty two percent say they are better off, fifty two

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to be able to hammer in here.

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Speaker 3: Listen to these numbers.

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Speaker 2: Buck White people twenty one percent better off, fifty four

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Speaker 2: eighteen percent better off, fifty nine percent worse off. Suburbs,

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Speaker 2: massive amount. That's a Fox News poll that came out yesterday.

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Speaker 2: To me, that is one that Trump can continue to

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Speaker 3: But I think most people.

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Speaker 2: Don't blame Trump for COVID, and we see most people

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Speaker 2: COVID just kind of showed up in March of twenty

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Speaker 4: It's interesting to look at this as a replay of

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Speaker 4: the two thousand and eight playbook in a sense, right,

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Speaker 4: a lot of what Biden is doing. It isn't a

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Speaker 4: it isn't a repeat, but it rhymes or from the

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Speaker 4: phrase about history. Right, there's something very similar between how

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Speaker 4: Biden is approaching his presidency and what we saw with

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Speaker 4: the Obama administration. But when Obama came in the first

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Speaker 4: Republicans rememberless. You'd say, no, Republicans drove us into a ditch,

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Speaker 4: and I'm driving us out of the ditch because you

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Speaker 4: had a financial collapse that I think unfairly was blamed

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Speaker 4: on Republicans because they've convinced people the Republicans are the

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Speaker 4: Actually not true. Democrats by the numbers are the party

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Speaker 2: But that evidence by the fundraiser that's taking place not

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Republicans are now the party of the

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Speaker 4: middle and upper middle class and the working class in

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Speaker 4: a whole range of ways. That people would argue that,

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Speaker 4: of course, but in a whole range of ways. I

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Speaker 4: just thought even little things like this, though, to your

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Speaker 4: are you better off question, Clay, you see the dollar

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Speaker 4: issue for independence as well. Democrats are living on another planet.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this. I want to

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Speaker 4: say it was a Siena poll. We're looking at so

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Speaker 4: many poles these days, but their top three issues. Two

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Speaker 4: of their top three issues were gun violence and climate change.

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Speaker 4: You know what number one was right for Democrats? Democrats

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Speaker 4: safeguarding our democracy Like these aren't even things.

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Speaker 3: What does that even mean? That has no meaning.

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Speaker 4: This is a religious belief masquerading as a political belief

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Speaker 4: safeguarding our democracy.

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Speaker 3: This is but that third number one.

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Speaker 4: Issue, play above the economy, above immigration, and you start

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Speaker 4: to see how it is feeling.

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Speaker 3: Like we're living in different countries.

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Speaker 4: If Democrats want to say I care the most about

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Speaker 4: the economy and I think that Biden will do a

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd love to hear that explanation.

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Speaker 4: But because the basically it's always the same thing, right,

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Speaker 4: rich people will be tax more, more money will be

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Speaker 4: distributed to the less rich. Socialism, that's what the law

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Speaker 4: for for the economy. Instead, climate change is the like

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Speaker 4: number three issue for Democrats. It's like we're not living

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Speaker 4: in the same world.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep hammering this home because I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of you parents' grandparents out there. Look at the

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Speaker 2: population charts.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, this is I think you would agree with this. Buck.

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Speaker 2: Having a kid is a vote for being confident about

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Speaker 2: the future. If you go look at population, generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: in economies that are in recess or where there is

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Speaker 2: and I'm talking about in an era when people can

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Speaker 2: make rational choices about having children, right, not some third

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Speaker 2: world country where there's no education or ability. The population

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Speaker 4: Sam Bankman freed the FTC crypto coin scammer UH has

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Speaker 4: gotten twenty five years in federal prison for fraud. Whole

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Speaker 2: Yeah, front page. I believe the Wall Street Journal today.

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Speaker 3: And so it makes me wonder. And I don't claim

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Speaker 3: I mean, he did an interesting argument.

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Speaker 4: He took money and put it into other things when

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in play, Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: Twenty one arrests. Trump is going to the wake. He

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Speaker 2: was honored to be invited to that wake. He said,

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Speaker 4: For me, I also understand at some level why they

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Speaker 4: Don't you think that the district attorney of New York

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Speaker 3: That's our pill.

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Speaker 2: And it also just reflects one of the I would

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Speaker 2: such as these, he's totally absent. And that's why I

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Speaker 2: think Trump is going to win. Almost everybody who's a

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Speaker 2: police officer is going to vote for him nationwide, but

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Speaker 2: also a lot of these union voters, because I think

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Speaker 2: that cuts through too, even though traditional union voters have

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Speaker 2: been Democrat supporters.

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Speaker 4: I think depends on the union, I think a lot.

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Speaker 4: But I would say on the police side, absolutely, And

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Speaker 4: it's because when you were a police officer, and as

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Speaker 4: everyone knows, I spent about eighteen months alongside officers of

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Speaker 4: the NYPD and the Intelligence Division as effectively a civilian,

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Speaker 4: a civilian analyst for the terrorism cases that they were

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Speaker 4: putting together. But when you're dealing with police officers, they

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Speaker 4: have to deal in reality, right, They're dealing with reality

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Speaker 4: day in and day out. What's going on on the streets.

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Speaker 4: What's the crime level? Like, you know, what's the threat

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Speaker 4: level in different neighborhoods to civilians? Two police officers? How

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Speaker 4: do how do people react to cops when they when

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Speaker 4: they're in different neighborhoods. I mean they're picking up on

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Speaker 4: all this all the time, and the narratives that are

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Speaker 4: out there, I mean they're running right now. You might

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Speaker 4: have seen this. Gosh, with the problem with reading so

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Speaker 4: much news is tough to remember the sources. But it's

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Speaker 4: like CNN or one of these places did a whole

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Speaker 4: thing on I think it was MSNBC, same thing.

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Speaker 3: Did this well.

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Speaker 4: Republicans are talking about how crime rates are rising, the

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Speaker 4: data in recent years tells a different story. I just

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Speaker 4: want everyone to understand, we had the biggest jump while

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Speaker 4: Biden was president. Okay, We've had We've suffered through the

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Speaker 4: biggest jump in as a percentage in homicides in I

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Speaker 4: think fifty years in this country, Okay, and it's gone

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Speaker 4: up dramatically, and in some places over the last year

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Speaker 4: or two Clay maybe homicides have dropped three percent or

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Speaker 4: or seven percent or five percent, and they're saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: we'll see it's.

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Speaker 3: Not like crime. Well, if you're at a super.

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Speaker 4: Elevated level of crime, a five percent drop doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: it is not statistically meaningful. It doesn't mean that they've

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Speaker 4: done itthing to change it. But these are the ways

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Speaker 4: that they use numbers to lie, and that's one of

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Speaker 4: the things they're doing about the crime right now. They're

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Speaker 4: trying to convince people that the cities are not more data. Subway,

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Speaker 4: you see Mayor Adams, which day.

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Speaker 3: Is it, Clay is it? Is it a Monday or

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Speaker 3: is it a Thursday?

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Speaker 4: Because depending on the day, Adams, the mayor of New

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Speaker 4: York City, will say subway crime is and then I'll

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Speaker 4: say a few days later, we've got to get our

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Speaker 4: subways safer.

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Speaker 3: They're not safe enough. Well, which is it?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it's also a function. For instance,

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Speaker 2: on the subway, something like readership is down, a ridership

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Speaker 2: is down by half compared to where it was pre COVID,

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Speaker 2: and a large percentage of that ridership bailing is because

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Speaker 2: they don't feel safe. And yet the rates of crime

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Speaker 2: have still gone up even with half as many people riding.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of that is true.

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Speaker 2: I believe the data is the largest single jump in

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Speaker 2: murders on record. Happened from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: I believe, or twenty nineteen to twenty twenty the FBI data,

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Speaker 2: and I think it was up thirty percent in one

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty massive number.

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Speaker 4: So then when you basically started with the with the

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Speaker 4: George Floyd death and then the riots, so it started again.

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Speaker 3: It started under.

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Speaker 2: Trump, your point, lower in that year because so many

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Speaker 2: people weren't on the road, so I skyrocketed, you know,

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Speaker 2: even though they were coming off of a lower number.

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Speaker 2: They went into By June of twenty twenty, the homicide

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Speaker 2: when skyrocketing. And then the part of this.

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Speaker 4: That should have been clear to everybody is well, once

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Speaker 4: Biden was elected, there had been a lot of shifts

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Speaker 4: in policy, bail reform. I can actually point to the

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Speaker 4: specific things in different places, you know, changing the amount

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Speaker 4: that you're arrested for for shoplifting, getting rid of cash bail,

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Speaker 4: refusing to prosecute for certain crimes in San Francisco, in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 4: in New York, in Oakland, and go down the list

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Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, they made these decisions and things kept

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Speaker 4: getting worse and worse than under Biden's first couple of years.

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Speaker 4: They kind of continued with it. They're just like, Eh,

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Speaker 4: you know stuff out there.

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Speaker 3: What can you do? You know, you know, don't complain

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Speaker 3: about it, don't be racist. Hold on, what does this

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Speaker 3: have to do with race? They're the ones who always

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Speaker 3: inject race into the conversation about law enforcement. By the way, if.

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Speaker 4: You just say I want the laws to be enforced

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Speaker 4: and I want criminals to be punished, the Democrats are

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Speaker 4: the ones who will start to say that this is unjust,

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Speaker 4: there's disparate impact, and there is a there's a racial

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Speaker 4: impact of this, and you say, oh, well, which one

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Speaker 4: of us is bringing race into it. They're the ones

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Speaker 4: that always introduce race, because this should be universally a

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Speaker 4: universally applicable policy, irrespective of race. Enforce the law. Keep

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Speaker 4: people say, if you commit the crime, you do the time.

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Speaker 4: Ask any every By the way, every cop knows this.

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Speaker 4: You talk to any cop in any jurisdiction, I mean

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Speaker 4: a real cop, not not somebody who's not like James Comey,

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Speaker 4: who was a lawyer that they made out of the FBI,

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Speaker 4: and like an actual has to walk the streets and

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Speaker 4: occasionally wrestle some shirtless maniac who's you know, spitting in

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Speaker 4: people's faces and saying that he's a you know, a

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Speaker 4: pterodactyl or something.

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Speaker 3: Ask those cops what's.

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Speaker 4: Going on in these places, and they all say the

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Speaker 4: same thing, which is that the prosecutors won't prosecute the uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Patrolman's Association or the you know, the

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Speaker 4: the union is scared of lawsuits now, and YadA, YadA,

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Speaker 4: all the way down the line.

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Speaker 2: And it's super frustrating because these guys bust their ass,

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Speaker 2: they arrest bad guys, and then the bad guys are

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Speaker 2: back out on the street almost before they can even

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Speaker 2: get them to the station.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine that. But I imagine if you've arrested.

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Speaker 4: You're a cop in the New York City subway system,

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Speaker 4: you're arresting someone. And what people don't realize sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Is it's same precinct.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, these guys aren't necessarily traveling all

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Speaker 3: They know the bad guys, they know the bad guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've actually they've arrested these guys before you go

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Speaker 4: into any precinct. Again, I can only speak to New

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Speaker 4: York City, but I'm sure other law enforcement you know,

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Speaker 4: in cities, these guys have the same and guys have

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Speaker 3: They're like, oh, yeah, that guy. You know that guy again.

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Speaker 4: Because if you've been arrested fifteen or twenty times, guess what,

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Speaker 4: arresting some guy the twentieth time, especially if he's uh,

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Speaker 4: what am I doing here? I'm risking my career and

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Speaker 3: We'll have that discussion.

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Speaker 4: Some win is getting racked up here in Florida by

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Speaker 4: Governor Ron DeSantis, a plus governor doing a great job here.

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Speaker 4: Got a bunch of things that he's done that I'm

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Speaker 4: just say that we should all keep in mind as

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Speaker 3: A whole heck of a lot.

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Speaker 4: But so does your state government where you live. So

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Speaker 4: nothing else, maybe COVID was kind of a wake up

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Speaker 4: call to a lot of people about you can't just

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Speaker 4: hope you have good enough federal governance and maybe you

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Speaker 4: know some good Republican administrations here and there. You got

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Speaker 4: to live in a place where the state government's functioning

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Speaker 4: to defend your rights and liberties too. Let's take Ted

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Speaker 4: and Florida, former New Jersey cop.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Ted, We're good.

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Speaker 5: Thanks begin Let me offer you kudos and the name

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Speaker 5: of the late Russ Lumbo for carrying on such a

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Speaker 5: fine tradition.

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Speaker 3: Megadetto sir, Thank you me kudos to.

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Speaker 5: You, Sir. I was in the law enforce for thirty

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Speaker 5: one years and I heard you mentioned the rank and file.

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Speaker 5: Back in the days. Seriously, we used to get what

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Speaker 5: we jokely referred to as repeat business. And I can't

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Speaker 5: tell you how many days I worked at desk and

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Speaker 5: I would get call from other jurisdictions that they got

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Speaker 5: to stop up and do you know this guy says, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know repeat business, you know, mostly known for nuisance

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Speaker 5: crimes and you know whatnot. But yes we do. We

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Speaker 5: do recognize individuals that you know, you just get them

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Speaker 5: over and over again. I got no other way to

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Speaker 5: say it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there are frequent customers of the police

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Speaker 4: department and the accommodations they're in.

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Speaker 2: How often, by the way, do you think cops, since

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Speaker 2: you've got thirty one year history, see something and they're like,

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Speaker 2: we should arrest this guy? But he's going to be

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Speaker 2: back out on the streets quickly that they don't even bother.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that part of the context here? Two, When you

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Speaker 2: don't put bad guys and keep them behind bars, it

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Speaker 5: The thought does cross your mind, but I've never had

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Speaker 5: that to where it hesitated or you know, made me

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Speaker 5: I have to bring him in.

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Speaker 4: That's the way it should be. Thank you to check

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Speaker 4: it out. Appreciate appreciate you, sir. Let's dive into the

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Speaker 4: situation in Florida. Oh and also play Actually I might

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Speaker 4: go to this one first here coming up. John Eastman,

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Speaker 4: a lawyer for Trump uh around the election issue. California

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Speaker 4: judge ruled he should be disparred. Now you can be

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Speaker 4: disparred for making legal arguments about an election that Libs

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Speaker 4: don't like. I think we should discuss that more of

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Speaker 4: the lawfare that's coming up.

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Speaker 3: Just a few