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Speaker 3: Welcome back in hour two of the program Jason Smith

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Speaker 3: Show with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Tonight in his stead,

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Speaker 3: our guy, Aaron Torres, step into the plate or to

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Speaker 3: the line, however you want to do it. We'll do

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Speaker 3: the basketball analogy at Aaron underscore Torres where you find him.

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Speaker 3: We've got the Lakers bludgeoning whatever's left of the Wizards.

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Speaker 3: No Luka donct serving the one game suspension for a

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Speaker 3: sixteenth technical that actually was not rescinded for once.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's because they're playing the Wizards. They're like, let's

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Speaker 4: get this out the way. Don't even bother, just operation shutdown.

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Speaker 3: They've still got a couple of dates with OKC left

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Speaker 3: on the slate before the season ends. We talked about

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Speaker 3: the greatness the historical run that Wembin Yama and the

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Speaker 3: Spurs are on as they obliterate my beloved Bulls, fractured

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Speaker 3: version of what they once were. We got Cleveland up one,

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Speaker 3: nothing on the Dodgers. Sasaki still working a lot of

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Speaker 3: questions about how deep in the game he would be

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Speaker 3: able to go. You got Otani pitching tomorrow, Yamamono on Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: So some historic stuff for the Dodgers. We've got the

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Speaker 3: NCAA Women's Elite eight South Carolina all over TCU, twenty

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Speaker 3: four point lead under three minutes remaining there. All roads

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Speaker 3: lead to a date with Gino Oriama and your Yukon Huskies.

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Speaker 3: He went that decade or nearly a decade of a

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Speaker 3: bunch of Final four and also rans, and now part

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Speaker 3: two of the domination situation for Gino Oriema, saying a

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Speaker 3: lot of important things about the women's game in terms

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Speaker 3: of treatment and practice times and facilities and all of those,

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Speaker 3: and lamenting the fact that a much like the Yukon

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Speaker 4: I'm supposed to interview Yukon a d Dave Benedict tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: He's a busy man right now. He's feeling pretty good,

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Speaker 4: flying back and forth between Phoenix and Indie this weekend.

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Speaker 4: But interesting, it looks like we're trending towards the same

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Speaker 4: final fours last year. And one question I think I

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Speaker 4: will ask him when I was growing up in Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: From the women's side, Yukon Tennessee Pat Summit, Gino Oriema,

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Speaker 4: it feels like South Carolina has replaced Anyone as the

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Speaker 4: Carolina was good this year. I know Texas had their

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Speaker 4: Should be a fun women's final four as well, in

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Speaker 4: addition to what will obviously be a really fun men's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as we have Alex ty shirts fighting a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I just give so much. I know how much

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Speaker 4: any edge that he can possibly get. I'm just thrilled

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Speaker 4: to see that hard work payoff Tights, and I'm really

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Speaker 4: proud of you. Thank you, Aaron. You know there was

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Speaker 4: one thing I was a little iffy about. It was

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Speaker 4: the whole run about everybody saying Arizona can never make

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Speaker 4: it to the big dance, they always flop and fail. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I believe in in this time. I just like Illinois better. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean listen, like you were on David Mirkovich before anybody,

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Speaker 4: Like when he was playing in the Adriatic League last year.

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Speaker 4: You were just you were pacing these hallways with a

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Speaker 4: watch in depth. You know, I dismissed it. I did

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Speaker 4: But I give you credit. You've been on him since

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Speaker 4: day one. Aaron I was falling him since he had

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Speaker 4: a different last name. Really yeah, Okay? Was that I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't even want to know what happened

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 3: And the idea that Stoyakovic's kid, Can.

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Speaker 3: What's that they have?

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Speaker 4: Your your Illinois fighting LINI? They have three really good

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Speaker 3: They and one kind of idea but gets lumped in

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think of like what an

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Speaker 3: No, because if you try, because you try to spitball,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get anyone canceled at.

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Speaker 3: Aaron underscore Torres. If you want to do the canceling

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Speaker 4: Analogy my Twitter is how about a fresco? So if

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Speaker 3: You can send Jason a note he's been staged during

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Speaker 3: But we get back to the business of the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 3: One of the teams ousted, of course by your Yukon Huskies,

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Speaker 3: There was a video that was posted by the Duke

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Speaker 3: Bulls Game one that the Bulls actually win against the

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Speaker 3: Phoenix Suns with a Duke a love making a heady

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Speaker 2: Okay, I understand game situation.

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Speaker 3: That was an incredibly hot out que play. That's why

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Speaker 3: it is a duke education.

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Speaker 2: Tell us thanks, that's that duke education.

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Speaker 3: Maybe so as Jones is walking off after the play,

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Speaker 3: And then obviously fast forward three weeks, so what happens

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Speaker 3: one of the last wins of their season. But but

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Speaker 3: And it's just so, I don't think it's ironic, just

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Speaker 3: But just so crazy that this was posted by the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I have certainly been one that has criticized

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Speaker 4: If Kaiden Boozer throws that ball a little bit higher,

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Speaker 4: the game is over. So it's really funny that Action

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Speaker 4: came down to that one play, And even as that

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Speaker 4: Even as a Yukon guy, I will readily admit that,

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Speaker 4: by the way, quick side Tangent, this is why you

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Speaker 4: You always try to force a turnover. I think that's

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Speaker 4: so quick to try to foul that you know the

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Speaker 4: way you're you should be taught is to try to

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Speaker 4: force the turnover first. That's exactly what happens. But it

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Speaker 4: is ironic if you're a duke cater. It is outright

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Speaker 4: But even as a Yukon guy, I will admit that

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Speaker 4: if Caden Boozer, if there had been enough space to

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Speaker 4: throw that ball up, the game is over. Because there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a convergence of a lot of circumstance, but

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Speaker 3: still doesn't take away the evaporation of a nineteen point

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Speaker 3: Ly we talked about chipping away at the stone. Friends

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Speaker 4: NCAA tournament appearances and success, but it's also to your point, Mike,

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Speaker 4: you now have to you know, there is a financial

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Speaker 4: component of putting together a competitive roster, and I believe

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Speaker 4: it would have been hard, especially to a great point

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Speaker 4: that you just made about how much money is now

438
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Speaker 4: going into the football program to raise the money needed

439
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Speaker 4: to put together a team good enough. And that's assuming

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Speaker 4: that you can coach them up to their potential next season.

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Speaker 3: Because it's a thing that's been brought up. And I

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Speaker 3: use Mick Cronin because I hear him here locally in

443
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Speaker 3: LA But when he said I need five million dollars, right,

444
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Speaker 3: it wasn't about tactics. It wasn't about what you can

445
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Speaker 3: do coaching them up. It was literally just saying, well,

446
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Speaker 3: the difference is they had five million dollars more to

447
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Speaker 3: spend than we did, which is.

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Speaker 4: Which they didn't. But keep going.

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Speaker 3: It's not criticize, but but that, but that's but that's

450
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Speaker 3: the game he's playing, is we don't have enough. At

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Speaker 3: some point you got to You still got to look

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Speaker 3: in the mirror. And I appreciate these mirrors as a

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Speaker 3: short king myself, you know, but as well as all

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Speaker 3: the baseball players after they got measured for the abs

455
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Speaker 3: stuff uh truncated guys uh all eventually going to be

456
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Speaker 3: as tall as Josel Tuva. But all of that to say,

457
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Speaker 3: it's the retention. It's one thing to recruit, and it's

458
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Speaker 3: it's always been this way, right. We can talk about

459
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Speaker 3: the shadow monies of yesteryear, but in terms of each

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Speaker 3: year you had to lobby the kid, the family hangers

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Speaker 3: on to want to stay with you, right, the retention

462
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Speaker 3: part was always there. And then once the transfer a

463
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Speaker 3: year of having to sit out went away, it became

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Speaker 3: that much more pressing not to mention the dollars and

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Speaker 3: finding the donor to keep digging a little deeper for

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Speaker 3: the next year. And so I understand what Cronin's well

467
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Speaker 3: won what he's doing, but too, you know, again missing

468
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Speaker 3: his best player for the tournament. But you know your

469
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Speaker 3: point guard came at a three point whatever million dollar price.

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Speaker 3: They had a great run dent. But it's that part

471
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Speaker 3: of the next equation of not only are a recruiting

472
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Speaker 3: player saying, well, why is it going to be better?

473
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Speaker 3: Because I can go get paid somewhere else. Right, there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be money like if you're if you're a player,

475
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Speaker 3: And this is where you get into the larger tournament

476
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Speaker 3: discussions of the death of Cinderella and whatever. Is that

477
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Speaker 3: guys aren't going to be there in year three or

478
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Speaker 3: four if they can play, because they will have gone

479
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Speaker 3: and taken a higher dollar amount to be the first

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Speaker 3: or second guy off the bench at one of the

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Speaker 3: power forwards. And I think we stipulate to that. But

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Speaker 3: for for the North Carolina program, as we look at

483
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Speaker 3: the leaders and the last update was Billy Donovan, Lloyd,

484
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Speaker 3: Dusty May Who's gonna get his extension go down to

485
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Speaker 3: Iowa State. I actually saw Jay Wright's name. It's like,

486
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: is he gonna suddenly, unless there's infrastructure that has already

487
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Speaker 3: built and he can just slide in as a coach.

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Speaker 4: I have personally made the decision. There are three names

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Speaker 4: that get linked to every job that I will not

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Speaker 4: put in any candidate list, curiously until further notice. One

491
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Speaker 4: Brad Stevens, Okay, because.

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Speaker 3: He's finally been eliminated from a lot of the.

493
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so he was smart enough to put out a

494
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Speaker 4: statement day one like, don't even ask me. I think

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Speaker 4: he might have the best job in basketball. He's not

496
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Speaker 4: a coach, but he has two superstars in their twenties.

497
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Speaker 4: I know we'll talk about Jaylen Brown throughout the show

498
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Speaker 4: at some point. Two superstars in their twenties, a coach

499
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Speaker 4: in their thirties. He'd be crazy to give up that

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Speaker 4: job unless he just misses coaching. That's one. Two is

501
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Speaker 4: Mark Few who's sixty about to be sixty four, and

502
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Speaker 4: I think the next stop will be the creek behind

503
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Speaker 4: his house where he'll fish all day. He's not moving

504
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: across country to a place that he's never lived to

505
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Speaker 4: take over, even as prestigious as the Carolina job is.

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Speaker 4: The third one is the one you just mentioned Jay

507
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: Wright about this. He quit TV because it was too

508
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Speaker 4: much work. And when you're quitting TV to focus on

509
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Speaker 4: being an ambassador for Villanova, that doesn't scream to me.

510
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: I want to run to Chapel Hill and start this

511
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Speaker 4: rebuilt from scratch, go aheaded.

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Speaker 3: Well in the end, you want your control, right, And

513
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: in TV it's hey, make your point in fifteen seconds. Yeah,

514
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: you got to get to him. We got to get

515
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: to him, like and you don't get to necessarily talk

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Speaker 3: about what you want to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just think he wants to. He seems

518
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Speaker 4: to want to. The control word is such a good

519
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: word to use here because he seems to want to

520
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: pull the puppet strings at Villanova without actually doing the coaching,

521
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Speaker 4: which it's not. It's not my university athletic department to run.

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Speaker 4: But he seems very involved wanting the program to stay

523
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Speaker 4: at the level he had it without having to do

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Speaker 4: the hard work to keep it there.

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Speaker 3: But that but that's just it is that the harder

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Speaker 3: work than coaching for him, maybe probably, So that's one

527
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: job in and of itself. Yeah, and then your record

528
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: never changes exactly. Oh, it's it's the coach k conversation

529
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Speaker 3: that we had earlier. You can be around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's easier to do the morning Monday morning

531
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Speaker 4: cornerback on John Shire. Oh, I couldn't sleep last night.

532
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Speaker 4: My era apparent blew a nineteen point lead. I mean,

533
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Speaker 4: we never really did that, but you know, I just

534
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Speaker 4: feel so bad for John And you.

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Speaker 3: Think he did a victory dance. You know, he may

536
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Speaker 3: have lamented it for a moment because Hurley starts to

537
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Speaker 3: get more push towards the grate of this era and

538
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: building to his resume. So you think coach k so

539
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: for a moment he's salty about the Hurly side, sure,

540
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Speaker 3: but then remembers that as long as the Duke legacy

541
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Speaker 3: remains intact, no one's making games there, He's ultimately winning overall.

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you point blank do you think it

543
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Speaker 3: is strange? I don't mean to totally pivot here, but

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Speaker 3: do you think it is strange that he that this

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Speaker 3: is coach camp time about now, chose to do media

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Speaker 3: availability today. Now.

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Speaker 4: I want to preface it by saying he has been

548
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Speaker 4: on Pat McAfee's show a few times over the last

549
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Speaker 4: few weeks to talk big picture tournament stuff. I'm sure

550
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Speaker 4: this was a pre set media obligation or a media request.

551
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Speaker 4: I think there's a difference between obligation and request. He

552
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Speaker 4: is not an employee of ESPN. This is not Nick Saban,

553
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Speaker 4: who is contractually obligated to go on McAfee once a week.

554
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Speaker 4: Did you find it weird that coach k just happened

555
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Speaker 4: to show up on one of the biggest sports platforms

556
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Speaker 4: the day after Duke loss.

557
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Speaker 3: Freshly pressed, sweater and.

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Speaker 4: Everything for He was practicing the answers in the mirror.

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Speaker 3: He was. He was ready. That's not why he didn't.

560
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Speaker 3: He wanted to see how much emotion he can come

561
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Speaker 3: up with to make you feel like he really felt

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Speaker 3: bad about it. At least That's my my take on it.

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Speaker 4: I just and you and I know this. For the

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Speaker 4: audience that doesn't, I'm sure you have had guest cancel

565
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: on you all the time for various reasons. I have

566
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Speaker 4: had plenty of guest cancel on me. There was no

567
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Speaker 4: one demanding that Coach k go on Pat McAfee to

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Speaker 4: talk about him.

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Speaker 3: Well, we had to hear his take on his He

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Speaker 3: had to hear his well, yeah, exactly, probably playing it

571
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Speaker 3: back for himself right now. Aaron Torres in for Jason

572
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Speaker 3: Smith by Mike Carment. Let's take a trip to the

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Speaker 3: news desk on a wild Monday night with our guys,

574
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Speaker 3: Steve Desanger, Steve lot's going on in this world?

575
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Speaker 5: And by the way, with Yukon women going to the

576
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Speaker 5: final four, and after the results tonight it's all one

577
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 5: seeds in the women's final four, we might actually get

578
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Speaker 5: a game that finishes in single digits in the margin

579
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Speaker 5: this weekend. I'm just fingers crossed.

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Speaker 3: Syracuse coach standing By.

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Speaker 5: We mentioned last hour that in the tournament, Syracuse women

582
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Speaker 5: lost to kid. I'm sorry, but this is an NCAA

583
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Speaker 5: tournament game and they were down seventy to fourteen to

584
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Speaker 5: Connecticut early in the third quarter. So the Women's March

585
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Speaker 5: Madness Tournament, I think we can call it that now

586
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: has for the fourth time in the last fifteen years,

587
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Speaker 5: had all one seeds in the final four. And have

588
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Speaker 5: you guys heard I did not read this until today.

589
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: We've seen this type of story with the furniture chain

590
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 5: in Texas, but this is going on in New England

591
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 5: as well. There's a furniture chain with a Yukon championship

592
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 5: promotion that if you bought eligible merchandise from this place

593
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 5: up till mid February. If Yukon men and women each

594
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Speaker 5: make the final in March Madness, then you get a

595
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: rebate for your purchase. Essentially it would be free. Well,

596
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: we're one went away from each of those getting to

597
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Speaker 5: the final. Apparently with insurance. This company paid out when

598
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Speaker 5: they had a similar promotion two thousand and seven at

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Speaker 5: the Red Sox won the World Series and the Hartford

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Speaker 5: Currents is then they paid out roughly thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Steve, but what about all the kickcap bars. We're

602
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: still looking lost?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, completely lost.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about that. Number One.

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Speaker 5: Yukon will face South Carolina at the Final four this Friday.

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Speaker 5: That'll be the first of the two games in Phoenix

607
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 5: seven pm Eastern time. South Carolina won its regional tonight

608
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: seventy eight to fifty two over TCU and Sacramento. Earlier,

609
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 5: Texas won in fort Worth, whipping Michigan seventy seven to

610
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Speaker 5: forty one. Texas against UCLA this Friday. UCLA's lost one

611
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 5: game the entire season, and it was to Texas. In fact,

612
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: Texas women's hoops they were at a mini tournament around Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: They beat UCLA by double digits and beat South Carolina

614
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Speaker 5: the next night and then beat a few other ranked

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Speaker 5: teams on the way to an eighteen and oh start,

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Speaker 5: and Texas wound up recently winning the conference tournament final

617
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: in the SEC by seven over South Carolina. So yeah,

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00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 5: pretty good matchups with the one seeds starting Friday at

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Speaker 5: the Women's Final four. By the way, Yukon is thirty

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Speaker 5: eight to zero and they've won fifty fourth straight. There

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Speaker 5: are a couple of late games in the NBA. It's

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Speaker 5: all tied at Oklahoma City Thunder with about eight minutes

623
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Speaker 5: to go, even with Detroit eighty five eighty five. Shay

624
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: gilgis Alexander of OKC with twenty six points. The Lakers

625
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 5: do not have Luka Doncic Tonight suspended for this game

626
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 5: against Washington after getting his sixteenth technical of the season.

627
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: Lakers are up, it's the Wizards. The Lakers are up

628
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: eighty one sixty six in the third quarter and so

629
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Speaker 5: far it's nineteen points for Austin Reeves and sixteen for

630
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Speaker 5: LA's Lebron James. Cleveland got fourteen assists from James Harden

631
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 5: in a victory at Utah one twenty two to one.

632
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 5: Thirteen the Jazz have lost six straight. San Antonio won

633
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: its ninth in a row, one to twenty nine, one

634
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: to fourteen over Chicago. Victor Wembenyama of the Spurs finished

635
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 5: with forty one points and sixteen rebounds. Atlanta one again.

636
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 5: The Hawks have won sixteen of eighteen after beating Boston

637
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 5: one twelve to one oh two. Jason Tatum of the

638
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: Celtics was out for Rest today. He was named Player

639
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 5: of the Week in the East. Phoenix and Miami each one,

640
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: and so did Minnesota, whipping Dallas one twenty four to

641
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: ninety four as Anthony Edwards of the Wolves returned after

642
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 5: missing six games with knee inflammation and scored seventeen points

643
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 5: off the bench among the limited night in the NHL,

644
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: It's right Now. The Ducks at home late second period,

645
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 5: leading Toronto three to one, Colorado a nine to two

646
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: winner against Calgary, and Pittsburgh an eight three winner at

647
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 5: the Islanders. Las Vegas will host the Super Bowl in

648
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: twenty twenty nine. To Major League Baseball, the Dodgers started

649
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 5: Roki Sasaki after an awful spring training. He went four

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Speaker 5: innings with four strikeouts, bottom of the six. Cleveland ahead

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Speaker 5: won nothing against the Dodgers in San Diego. Ex Dodger

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Speaker 5: Walker Buehler was the Padres starter. He was down three

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Speaker 3: got Detroit and OKC. Maybe a finals preview coming down

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Speaker 3: that we've been keeping an eye on most of the

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Speaker 3: season and a lot of questions coming into the year

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Speaker 3: with Jason Tatum's sideline was the Boston Celtics, And for

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, he's making sure to raise his hand and

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Speaker 3: clap back at the would be detractors that had called

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Speaker 3: it a gap year the expectation, and this is where

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, I think should get a lot more love

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Speaker 3: from folks in terms of coming back in a year

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Speaker 3: where we've spent a lot of time talking about tanking

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Speaker 3: and operations shut down. I mean, we're watching the Wizards

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Speaker 3: and the Lakers get after it and street clothes is

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Speaker 3: the nickname for one of your stars. Right when you

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Speaker 3: were talking about Anthony Davis for the Celtics coming into

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Speaker 3: tonight fifty and twenty five on the year four and

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Speaker 3: a half back of these Pistons playing a good stretch

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Speaker 3: without Kate Cunningham as well, who was in the MVP

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Speaker 3: consideration and agent talking about the sixty five game threshold

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Speaker 3: for all NBA and whatever else. But for Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 3: for a good chunk of the season, it became a

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Speaker 3: question of how high could he rise in the discussion

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Speaker 3: for the MVP against Luka Dac It's against Wembin Yama

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Speaker 3: against Shay Gilgus, Alexander and Nikola jokicch who everybody just

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Speaker 3: pushes off to the side because steady as she goes,

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Speaker 3: as it were. I do like that Wemby and Luca

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Speaker 3: chirped up a bit about the MVP the last week

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Speaker 3: or two. I think that's good. Shla ticking is good

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Speaker 3: to say, hey, keep an eye on what we're doing

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Speaker 3: over here in Jalen Brown much the same, averaging about

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Speaker 3: thirty four minutes a night nearly twenty eight point six

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Speaker 3: seven rebounds again a game, five assists and really assists

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Speaker 3: turnover ratio at one point four, raised his hands saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: you guys all expected us to be bad. So I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it says more about the resolve and

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Speaker 3: Brad Stevens and everything that the Celtics are doing, or

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Speaker 3: that the Eastern Conference wasn't necessarily as tough and top

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Speaker 3: heavy as we anticipated, but for Jalen Brown certainly pushing

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Speaker 3: aside some of the noise coming into the year that

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Speaker 3: the Celtics were Jason Tatum's squad and that he was

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Speaker 3: just a hanger on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that, Yeah, I think it's a

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Speaker 4: some as it's not really as some as great in

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Speaker 4: the part team, I guess. But what I would say

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Speaker 4: is that I do think that, like with the Celtics,

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Speaker 4: we do have to give them so much credit and

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Speaker 4: two things can be true. Right, Yes, of course, to

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Speaker 4: a degree, some of this is that the East is

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Speaker 4: not good, but it would still be very easy for

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Speaker 4: them to be in seventh place and whatever if they

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Speaker 4: weren't really well coached with really good players and transparently,

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Speaker 4: if Jalen Brown wasn't probably better than he has given

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Speaker 4: credit for, you know, kind of the grander scheme of

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Speaker 4: NBA conversations. So yes, we need to acknowledge that the

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Speaker 4: East maybe isn't quite as tough as the West. But

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Speaker 4: I give that team so much credit for not tanking,

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Speaker 4: for not giving away a season, and now they're in

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Speaker 4: position to potentially get the number one seed.

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Speaker 3: Took an l tonight Atlanta one twelve, one oh two.

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Speaker 3: They've played some good games since getting rid of Trey

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Speaker 3: Young back in time, so, you know, addition by subtraction,

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