WEBVTT - #619 Packers Unscripted: Chicago coming up 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:10.920 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.280 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.639 by my trusted colleague West hod Koitz. We're coming to 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.520 you here from our studios at lambeau Field West. It 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.200 is Bears week here in green Bay. The Packers will 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.279 be at Soldier Field in Chicago on Sunday, a noon 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.200 Central Time kickoff, for the first of two meetings in 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.639 between these two rivals, longtime rivals, and there's a lot 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.000 on the line here West for an early season game. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.000 The Packers are four and one, the Bears are three 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:43.400 and two, so Green Bay cann't take a two game 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.240 lead on the rest of the NFC North with a victory, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.640 or the Bears can tie things up with a victory 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.639 over the Packers to make both teams four and two 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.240 so far. Chicago, they took a couple on the chin 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.160 from the Rams and the Browns, two pretty good teams, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.200 but they've also up victories over the Bengals, the Lions, 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:07.040 and most recently the Raiders, where we saw that Chicago 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.160 defense really seemed to be hitting its stride. The Chicago defense. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.440 I think it's funny how this goes Mike. The years changed, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.640 the coaches occasionally changed, there's different quarterbacks. As long as 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.120 I've basically been an adult, Chicago has had some really 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.240 good defenses and that is very much the case this year. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.080 We you know, we shoot a lot of videos here, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.640 We do a lot of content for Packers dot Com. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.240 But I'm not gonna sit here and just try to 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.200 pair him. I'm gonna talk about what Larry Mcarreon talked 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.080 about our three Things video that we did that we 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.399 taped just before this. This is, without a doubt the 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.279 best defense screen based seeing pound for pound for pound 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.960 at all three levels. But what impresses me the most 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.760 is the consistency across the board. It's not just one 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.160 thing that they do particularly well as a unit. They're 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.040 executing in all major categories. Now, certainly the sacks are 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.640 what jump off the page. A number of years ago, 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.720 Ryan Pace made his you know, quintessential move, the one 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.720 the highlight real move, getting Khalil Mack Mac again off 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.840 to a five sacks season this year. But Robert Quinn 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.480 was a really interesting acquisition for him. Quinn has been 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.800 around for a long time now and he's been one 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.280 of these guys that can have years where he has 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.680 three sacks, he can have ten sacks. He's obviously appearing 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.800 to be on one of those ten sack type seasons 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.280 right now. Four and a half to this point eighteen. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.480 For the Bunch, they have good guys in the defensive interior. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.120 Real Kuan Smith is elite, you know now also in 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.840 that conversation with Fred Warner and these guys. As far 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.120 as the best middle linebacker in the game, Green Bay 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.240 has their work cut out for him. Offensively, A lot 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.960 of question marks right now for the Bears. Defensively, this 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.359 team is going to compete with basically everyone. Yeah, it's 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.440 interesting when you look statistically at this Bears defense, there 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.200 are a lot of similarities in terms of the stats, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.120 the numbers where they rank compared to the Bengals defense, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.760 which the Packers just faced. I think what sets this 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:01.600 Chicago defense apart a little bit from the Cincinnati defense 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.000 is the big names and the big time everywheremakers. When 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:10.160 you're talking about Khalil Mack, Robert quinn Um, Roquan Smith 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.200 in the middle of the defense, Eddie Jackson safety on 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.120 the back end, who's made a ton of big, game 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.120 changing type of plays throughout his career. This is a 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.600 this is an experience unit. And even as much as 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.400 some of the names change here and there, on the 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.720 Bears defense, they always seem to have a core of 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.440 four or five or six guys that have been together 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.640 for some certain period of time. And that's why they're 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.280 able to maintain a certain level of consistency with how 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.040 they played defense. And a lot of it is at 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.760 the linebacker position. Mike, I remember a number of years ago, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.840 I want to say, maybe it was two thousand fifteen. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.240 I know, I was still at the Press Gazette Danny 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.600 Trevathan when they went out and signed both him and 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.920 Drill Freeman. Those were two big marquee guys that they 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.720 were sort of rebuilding their defense with with Vic Fangio 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.920 going in there. Now Freeman didn't work out. Trevithan absolute 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.240 lee did. I mean, every single year we're talking about him. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.720 But then they've augmented it, as you mentioned with ro 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.880 Kuan Smith, a sideline to sideline linebacker, guy that has 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.920 a hundred of you know, tackles every single season, is 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.880 making plays, is constantly around the football. They kind of 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.919 had a little bit of a transitional period at the 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.120 cornerback position. But you've seen that sort of solidify itself 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.640 now over the past year as well. And the fact 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.880 of the matter is, Mike, when you have an overall 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.400 unit that can defend the run, well, it's going to 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.680 open up the rest of the field for your playmakers. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.000 Eddie Jackson has been in kind of an interesting spot 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.360 since Adrian Amos left, but he seems to be settled 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.720 down a little bit more now as well. It's a 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.240 it's a four quarter battle with the with the Bears 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.120 every time you see them. And for the Green Bay Packers, 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.479 after having some really solid offensive performances, I know it 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.200 didn't maybe translate as much to the scoreboard, but four 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.120 and sixty six total yards of offense last week, this 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.560 is gonna be a real test for that unit and 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.520 seeing exactly what they can do against one of the 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.600 NFL's truly elite defenses. Yeah, I think the Packers certainly 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.359 liked way they moved the ball up and down the 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.000 field against Cincinnati's defense. It is a matter of translating 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:10.200 that now against another formidable defense. But finish more of 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.360 those drives with points, get in the red zone and 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:16.000 finished with some touchdowns and uh and the Packers feel 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.120 like they can be in in a in a good 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.800 position against a defense like this. On the flip side 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.800 of things, Justin Fields is the big story for the 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.040 Chicago Bears offense, right They traded up in the draft 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.520 to select him in the first round. We all knew 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.080 that Andy Dalton was a temporary placeholder. We didn't know 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.320 how long it would last. He ended up getting hurt 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.560 fairly early in the season. So this is Justin Fields 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.640 offense now. And you know he he took his lumps 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.440 against the Cleveland Browns, sacked whatever it was, eight or 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.040 nine times I think in that game. The Bears I 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.800 believe they ended up changing play callers after that or 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:56.520 they they've made some changes with within the offensive coaching staff, 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.479 and um, you're starting to see the growth in the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.440 progress from Fields that you would expect from from a 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.320 high first round draft pick like that. Um, they're dealing 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.680 with David Montgomery and their number one running back being 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.520 injured right now, but Damian Williams has stepped in. He 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.159 looked pretty good against the Raiders last week. From what 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.800 I saw, this is uh, this is an offense that 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.200 doesn't want to put everything on Justin Fields. But the 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.480 defenses that play against Chicago want to try to put 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.160 as much on Justin Fields as you can, because that's 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.480 the formula against young quarterbacks, right is to make those guys, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.719 put those guys in situations that maybe they haven't faced before, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.320 and try to force the one or two mistakes that 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.640 can change a game. Well, the big line that really 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.520 came out during the preseason was Fields saying that you know, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.279 nothing's really too big for him. He feels like the 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.039 game wasn't too fast. But I think you're seeing those 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.719 first couple of times he's been on the field. There 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.680 is a different flow of a game. There is a 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.920 lot different variables when you're facing you know, NFL caliber 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:59.200 defenses with with playmakers, you know, strewn throughout. Losing Montgomery 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.200 is a difficult one because, Mike, how many times have 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:02.880 you and I've done this show over the last three 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.640 years where I've said, when they run the ball, when 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.600 they established David Montgomery, they're able to really get into 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.880 a flow offensively. I felt like when they came up short, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.920 it didn't matter if it was Mitchell Robinski, it didn't 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.200 matter if it was Nick Foles, it didn't matter who 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:21.120 the quarterback was, but when they failed to get Montgomery going, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.880 when he's having these ten carry twenty eight yard days, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.120 it was making life difficult on everybody else. This year, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:33.400 they you know, they have weapons. Alan Robinson one of 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.040 the league's top receivers in my opinion, highly underrated guy, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.960 and Darnell Mooney is actually leading them in receiving yards 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.400 this year. A young up and coming guy who's starting 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.240 to make a name for who the Packers have already 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.720 you know seen before and his his production. Cole Commet 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.040 was a big pick for them. They have guys that 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.040 can catch the football, but the issue so far this 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.760 year has been whether it's fields or Dalton getting the 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.200 ball in those guys hands. Losing Montgomery is a big 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.040 step back where but they do have Damien Williams, and 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.040 if you know anything about Williams story, this is his 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.640 third NFL team. He's been a little bit of a journeyman, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.400 but he was really critical to Kansas City super Bowl 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.120 pushed two years ago what he had to be the 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:16.080 featured back. He's been comfortable in that role before. Khalil 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.040 Herbert also comes in sixth round pick this past year, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.440 so they do have guys that can run the football. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.880 It's just gonna be a question when you don't have 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.880 the dual threat of Montgomery, what is the trickle down 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.200 effect on that, not only with this offense but also 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.960 with Justin Fields trying to get comfortable and steering this ship. Yeah, absolutely, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.800 and I think it certainly helps the Packers because the 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.040 Bears have now made this transition to Williams with Montgomery 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.240 going out. It helps the Packers to have that film 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.360 from the Raiders game and how the Bears used Williams 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.800 and everything. Because the offense does look a little different there. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.440 There are some changes being made there, so the Packers 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.920 hopefully won't be surprised by anything in that regard. But 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.840 by the same token, when you're talking about a young 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.320 first round draft pick who's learning the game and the 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.840 progress that he is, you know how this goes west. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.360 The playbook starts to get bigger and bigger and bigger 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.800 week after week. There are things that the Bears are 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.160 gonna run with Justin Fields as they progress through this 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.880 season that are going to be brand new, that are 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.600 going to be unscouted, and that's going to be happening 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.640 in week nine, ten, eleven, and twelve. With with the 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.839 Chicago Bears and justin fields because the more he learns 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.080 and the more comfortable he gets, then the more they 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.360 will put on his plate. So the Packers really they 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:33.000 have to be ready for almost anything offensively from statistically 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:34.959 from a Bears offense that is at or near the 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.319 bottom of the league in in a number of categories. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.000 And and uh and obviously the Packers are dealing with 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.600 with their share of injuries on the defensive side of 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:48.040 the ball. But but you know, I think the biggest 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.800 thing everybody's gonna be watching in this game is going 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.160 to be what Aaron Rodgers in this offense does against 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.199 this Bears defense, because because the Bears are going to 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.439 be relying on their defense more than ever. Well, and 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.360 we have to see this offensive line is gonna look 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.960 like for Green Bay. Right on Wednesday, they got back 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.160 Elton Jenkins. That was a big plus for them. Limited 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.360 in practice, but also Josh Myers being cleared to return 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.520 with that finger injury. He was a full participant. You know, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.920 I think I don't think there's any question Josh Myers 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.080 can play through a finger injury. It was just the 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.080 thing with the doctors making sure that he's safe to 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.000 do so that everything is on the up and up there. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.960 But to be a full participant in practice Wednesday probably 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.120 tells you the Packers are gonna have their starting center back. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.200 Jenkins is such an interesting piece though, because Josh Naiman 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:36.280 has done an exemplary job at left tackle. But you know, 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.560 Robert Quinn, with the way he's playing right now, that's 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.080 a tough ask. You know, Billy Turner is already gonna 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.120 have his hands full with Khalil Mack. He's seen that 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.240 assignment before. I imagine Mac will be moving around as well. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.240 But Elton Jenkins is really the Swiss Army knife here, 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:51.880 and I mean he can It isn't just a jack 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.400 of all trades. I mean it's a king of all 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.680 trades here. This guy can play at a Pro Bowl 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.160 level everywhere if he is good to go. As Adam 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.280 Stanovich said on Wednesday night when he was talking with 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.120 the media, they've already had the conversations about where this 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.080 guy should go, where he should fit. Hope to have 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.160 that decision in place by Friday. If again, things are 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.719 looking like Jenkins is gonna play. But man, it is 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.480 a luxury, but it also creates a lot of questions 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.840 for you because you have an all pro pro bowled 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.560 caliber type offensive lineman that can basically play any of 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.000 the five positions. Yeah, and if the Packers are looking 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.400 at keeping him on the left side, whether it be 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.720 left tackle or left guard, which has been his traditional position, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.160 if we can call hit that for him as a 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.920 as one of these you know, all everything versatile guys. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.240 As you said, Niman has played well, and the Packers 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.920 in the as the weeks have progressed with Nieman. They 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.600 they've left him one on one a little bit more often. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.520 You know, Yes, you're gonna always gonna give him help 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.800 in certain situations, but certainly not as much help as 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.880 there was back in his first start against San Francisco right, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.840 but then at left guard, John Runyon is not not 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.520 exactly been a slouch out there by any means. So 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.199 it's it's a good problem to have, right as as 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.440 the saying goes, because the Packers aren't looking at this 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.160 is was like, alright, great, we're getting Elton Jenkins back. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.240 We can get so and so out of them. That's 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.160 not how they're looking at this, because the guys who 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.120 have stepped in have done a whale of a job. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.160 Do you know who John Running reminds me of, And 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.560 no it's not his father, But do you know who 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.760 he really reminds me of? Evan Smith or Evan Dietrich Smith. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.480 To two Packers fans right there, E d. S was 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.640 not a guy that I think in a training camp setting, 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.200 you're just gonna sit there and be like, Wow, look 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.920 at that guy. He's just man handling everybody. I think 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.200 even Adam Stanovich talked about a little bit. You know, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.640 maybe training camp wasn't what John wanted it to be. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.720 But when Rogers even mentioned that too that you look 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.160 at the preseason film and what was going on in 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.760 August and you kind of wondered, is is John Running 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.520 really going to be ready to play this year? Well, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.240 then they need him. His number gets called, and whether 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.959 you call him a gamer or whatever phrase you want 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.600 to use, he stepped in and performed. There is something 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.160 about when that whistle gets blown in the game matters. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.959 I think this goes back to last year with the 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.719 hundred and sixty kind of relief snaps that he had 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.560 to play at various positions because of injury. There is 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.000 something about when that whistle gets blown where something clicks 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.760 with him and I was so impressed when they you know, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.080 I know, everything happens where a guy gets hurt like 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.400 like Lucas Patrick does, and then Running goes in here 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.040 like okay, well this is just the passing the torch. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.880 Lucas Patrick is a darn fine football player too. He 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.079 proved that last week. But the fact is is, I 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.679 thought Running answered a lot of questions in that one 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.000 week stint there for for Lucas when he's going to 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.360 concussion protocol that I think we were looking to see 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:36.040 answered back in August. The guy can play, so Mike. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.520 It was the number one thing from the time that Marv, 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.800 you know, matt Arvan threw on the cameras for our 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.120 first unscripted in the summer. I said it, this offensive line, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.280 it's the deepest of it which I've covered yet. I'm 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.360 not saying it's the most talented. I'm not saying that 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.359 they have the most Pro bowlers. But the fact is 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.520 is they can go so deep at so many of 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.000 these positions. They've had to rely on it for three 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.720 weeks too, you know, these last three weeks to kind 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.840 of extem the tide without Elton j Akins. But man, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.320 if they can get guys healthy. There's just there's so 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.720 many different directions of Packers can go with the offensive 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.400 line and they're all positive. Yeah, And for everyone wondering 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.280 about David baktr at this stage, obviously he it will 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.800 be eligible to return to practice off the pup list 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.160 next week. There hasn't been any official word as to 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.840 whether he will start practicing or not, but he is 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.720 eligible to to begin practicing next week. So that's a 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.400 story we'll be following as well after this Chicago Bears, absolutely, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.520 and the fact that we are five games in the season, 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.680 the Packers are four and one and you and I 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.840 aren't sounding off red alarms here on top of everything 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.920 because of David bac Terry not being on the field. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.800 Most definitely this this offense improves with them. I think 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.600 the run offense especially reproves once he's back on the field. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.120 But they've been able to do this without box Tr. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.440 They did it through. They got to an NFC Championship 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.400 game without um last year. And to be able to 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:52.960 be four and one at this point, man, that's just 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.600 such an incredible testament to Stanovich, Luke Buckus and the 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.080 job that those guys have done to be able to 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.000 get him this far. Yeah, no question about it. Well, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.720 I want to get to some keys to victory here, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.840 but a little bit of sponsored business. West Serious x M. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.720 NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:11.360 minute NFL news that true football fanatics need seven three 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.400 six and at Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.480 like our Wisconsin Cheese Kurds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.840 and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.040 sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs, we believe in better. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.120 All right, Keys to victory here for the Packers. What 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.400 is foremost in your mind that the Packers need to 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.320 do to come back to Green Bay with a five 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.440 and one record? Finished drives? I mean it really to me? 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.720 Is that simple? Four sixty six total yards offense against 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.920 the Bengals defense last week? A really good, versatile, deep 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.680 Bengals defense. Yeah, the they were able to do so 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.320 many big explosive things in that game, but it's just 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.440 a matter of getting inside the twenty and being able 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.800 to get back into the end zone. And they showed 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.760 that they can do it. I mean the back shoulder 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.800 fade which looked to be kind of a run solution. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.720 They're kind of an adjustment that they made two for 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.600 Rogers and in Devonte to do that single coverage the 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.040 only receiver really out on a route on that play. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.360 It shows you that everything is on the table for them, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.240 it's just a matter of executing it. And then secondary 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.680 I want to just mention, I mean the Packers being 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.360 able to establish the run the way they did. I 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.000 know it still wasn't picture perfect. I know they have 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:23.480 higher aspirations, especially you know, just in those first down situations, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.760 being able to get five, four or five yards again 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:30.120 more manageable second and third downs, But the variants that 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.680 they're using right now with Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.400 this is the recipe, Mike. I mean, I think it 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.880 makes Dylon better. I think he's showing that he's ready 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.040 for a bigger role. But at the same time, you 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.200 also have a guy like Aaron Jones who becomes that 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:47.040 much more really destructive. I feel when he's able to 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.360 kind of have someone playing off him, that's such a 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.280 different contrasting style. I go back to that fifty seven 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.800 yard run that he had in the last week. Von 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.840 Bell made the right call. He had the gap open 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.600 that b gap and Aaron Jones just made a miss. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.080 And when you're seeing different looks like that throughout the 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.879 course of the game, and now you're you're seeing the 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.600 power of Dylan and now you're seeing the finesse and 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.800 the slashing ability of Aaron Jones, that's difficult to diagnose 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.000 when you're not seeing it. Down after down after down, 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.440 hundred and eighty eight total yards of offense, a week 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.439 after coming up a hundred and nineties six yards of 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.440 total offense. Those two running backs, Mike, they are pivotal 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.080 playmakers in this Packers scheme, and if they can get 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.879 them going again against this front, that's what opens up 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.639 the past, the run pass action, that's what opens up 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.280 the jet motions. All the dominoes start to fall. If 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.120 you can move the football against Chicago. Yeah, that's where 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.600 I think it comes down to. Offensively for the Packers. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.359 You have to be able to run the football with 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.919 a certain level of effectiveness against the Bears, because you 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.240 need to be able to have an action passing game. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.760 You need to be able to keep that defense honest 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.200 and honor the run, because if you turn this into 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.720 a straight dropback passing game, the league leading eighteen sacks, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.199 the nine and a half sacks that that Quinn and 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.000 Mac have combined for so far. That's where you get. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.320 You get in trouble um because because they know they 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.880 can just come after you in in a straight drop 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.000 back game. On the other side of things, I think 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.760 as much as as much as Packer fans want to see, 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.879 you know, Preston Smith and Rashawn Gary and Kenny Clark 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.879 and these guys you know, start racking up sacks like 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.280 the Bears have been doing, this is not the game 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.639 you necessarily do that. Aside from the statistics from Justin 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.040 fields in the Cleveland game, this is about containing this 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:31.040 young man, right. It's yes, you rush to pressure to contain, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.120 but not necessarily to sack because if you get out 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.000 of that, if you get out of your rush lane, 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.119 if you get a little bit too creative, then he 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.680 has that escape lane and and he can make you 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.879 pay with his legs. And the Packers need to they 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.639 need to stop the run, put as much of this 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.680 game on justin fields, like I said before, But then 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.600 keep him in the pocket and make him throw the ball, 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.840 because if he starts running around and he's back in 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.959 his columbus Ohio days, you know then then you know 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.680 all bets are off at that point, because that's that's 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:01.800 how this kid became a first round pick. And this 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.960 is probably one of the quieter, like six ranked defenses 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.280 you're gonna see in the National Football League what Green 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.880 Bay has done so far. Obviously, there are still things 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.520 to improve. They are not a finished product. But with 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.720 having an inside linebacker like Devander Campbell, having interior pass 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.080