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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West hod Koitz. We're coming to

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Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field West. It

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Speaker 1: is Bears week here in green Bay. The Packers will

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Speaker 1: be at Soldier Field in Chicago on Sunday, a noon

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Speaker 1: Central Time kickoff, for the first of two meetings in

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Speaker 1: between these two rivals, longtime rivals, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: on the line here West for an early season game.

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Speaker 1: The Packers are four and one, the Bears are three

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Speaker 1: and two, so Green Bay cann't take a two game

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Speaker 1: lead on the rest of the NFC North with a victory,

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Speaker 1: or the Bears can tie things up with a victory

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Speaker 1: over the Packers to make both teams four and two

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Speaker 1: so far. Chicago, they took a couple on the chin

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Speaker 1: from the Rams and the Browns, two pretty good teams,

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Speaker 1: but they've also up victories over the Bengals, the Lions,

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Speaker 1: defense really seemed to be hitting its stride. The Chicago defense.

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Speaker 1: I think it's funny how this goes Mike. The years changed,

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Speaker 1: the coaches occasionally changed, there's different quarterbacks. As long as

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Speaker 1: I've basically been an adult, Chicago has had some really

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Speaker 1: good defenses and that is very much the case this year.

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Speaker 1: We you know, we shoot a lot of videos here,

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Speaker 1: We do a lot of content for Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna sit here and just try to

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Speaker 1: pair him. I'm gonna talk about what Larry Mcarreon talked

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Speaker 1: about our three Things video that we did that we

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Speaker 1: taped just before this. This is, without a doubt the

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Speaker 1: best defense screen based seeing pound for pound for pound

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Speaker 1: at all three levels. But what impresses me the most

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Speaker 1: is the consistency across the board. It's not just one

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Speaker 1: thing that they do particularly well as a unit. They're

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Speaker 1: executing in all major categories. Now, certainly the sacks are

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Speaker 1: what jump off the page. A number of years ago,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Pace made his you know, quintessential move, the one

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Speaker 1: the highlight real move, getting Khalil Mack Mac again off

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Speaker 1: to a five sacks season this year. But Robert Quinn

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Speaker 1: was a really interesting acquisition for him. Quinn has been

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Speaker 1: around for a long time now and he's been one

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Speaker 1: of these guys that can have years where he has

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Speaker 1: to be on one of those ten sack type seasons

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Speaker 1: right now. Four and a half to this point eighteen.

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Speaker 1: For the Bunch, they have good guys in the defensive interior.

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Speaker 1: Real Kuan Smith is elite, you know now also in

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Speaker 1: that conversation with Fred Warner and these guys. As far

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Speaker 1: of question marks right now for the Bears. Defensively, this

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Speaker 1: interesting when you look statistically at this Bears defense, there

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Speaker 1: the numbers where they rank compared to the Bengals defense,

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Speaker 1: which the Packers just faced. I think what sets this

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Speaker 1: is the big names and the big time everywheremakers. When

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Speaker 1: changing type of plays throughout his career. This is a

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Speaker 1: this is an experience unit. And even as much as

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Speaker 1: able to maintain a certain level of consistency with how

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Speaker 1: the linebacker position. Mike, I remember a number of years ago,

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Speaker 1: I know, I was still at the Press Gazette Danny

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Speaker 1: Trevathan when they went out and signed both him and

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Speaker 1: were sort of rebuilding their defense with with Vic Fangio

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Speaker 1: going in there. Now Freeman didn't work out. Trevithan absolute

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Speaker 1: But then they've augmented it, as you mentioned with ro

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Speaker 1: of the matter is, Mike, when you have an overall

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Speaker 1: after having some really solid offensive performances, I know it

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Speaker 1: seeing exactly what they can do against one of the

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Speaker 1: of things, Justin Fields is the big story for the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears offense, right They traded up in the draft

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Speaker 1: the formula against young quarterbacks, right is to make those guys,

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Speaker 1: Jenkins is such an interesting piece though, because Josh Naiman

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Speaker 1: All right, Keys to victory here for the Packers. What

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Speaker 1: that there always are compelling matchups, but there's different types

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna be an exciting weekend of

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Speaker 1: action for sure though. Yeah, absolutely Chargers in the a

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Speaker 1: middle of October. But we gotta go, so we'll call

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Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team,

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Speaker 1: all the coverage of the big game from Chicago on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We'll have it all for you on Packer dot com

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Speaker 1: for West, I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. See

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