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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, everybody? Uh does everyone is the new fad?

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Speaker 2: Sea through pants? Huh with Major League Baseball? Huh, that's right,

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Speaker 2: through pants. You're gonna go out and get some sea

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Speaker 2: through pants? Rich you, Jared, I don't know, I might

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Speaker 2: get a bear if this is the new style.

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Speaker 3: It's uh hat pants, It's it's it's so funny. Varied

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Speaker 3: reaction to this. There are certain sourced reports from a

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Speaker 3: miss player saying that it's you know, this is you know,

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Speaker 3: bull and you know, gosh, they gotta go and change

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Speaker 3: things on us. And then there are certain players like

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Speaker 3: don't bother me, you know, it's a man.

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Speaker 4: It is a varied Uh, it is a varied reaction.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that

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Speaker 4: was what they were going for.

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Speaker 3: Like when Bobby Manfred, the commission of the league, when

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Speaker 3: he was down there in.

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Speaker 4: The Grapefruit League.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Babo, when he was when he was down there

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Speaker 3: in the Grape League's given his address and he was saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, listen, I think the players are really gonna

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Speaker 3: like these. I don't know if he realized he was

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Speaker 3: doing like a little strip tease for those in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Taking in the spring training action.

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Speaker 5: I mean, guys, I think the porn star aesthetic is in, right,

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Speaker 5: that's the right I heard. I heard mob wife aesthetic

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Speaker 5: is in for the ladies these days. I guess porn

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Speaker 5: star aesthetic for the athletes is the vibe. But also

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Speaker 5: it brings me back to the George Costanza Seinfeld episode

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Speaker 5: when the cotton right. And I don't know if you guys,

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Speaker 5: guys of a Seinfeld fans, if you understand that that

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Speaker 5: that reference. It is very similar in a sense, but different,

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Speaker 5: but similar enough to where you can laugh at it.

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Speaker 1: And I was laughing at you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for anyone who's like, what are these guys talking about?

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Speaker 2: It's major League Baseball in spring training. They've gone the

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Speaker 2: cheaper route with the material for the jerseys, a big deal,

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Speaker 2: and some of the you know, the darker tops, right

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Speaker 2: when they're tucked in, you can see the jersey through

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Speaker 2: the pants because the pants have material that is so

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Speaker 2: cheap you can see right through it. I can't believe

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Speaker 2: we've been talking about this for weeks.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's not smart for living all

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Speaker 1: to do this, not at all.

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Speaker 4: But what are you gonna do.

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Speaker 2: How about this? This could also be not so smart.

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Speaker 2: So earlier this week, the college football Playoff twelve team

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Speaker 2: format was approved unanimously. So we've got a five plus

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Speaker 2: seven model, the five highest ranked conference champions and the

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Speaker 2: next seven highest ranked teams. Boom, we've got our twelve

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Speaker 2: team playoff. Onward and upward. And then it's like, oh, yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: just by the way, we're discussing expanding this thing to

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Speaker 2: fourteen teams by twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing. We haven't even seen twelve teams

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Speaker 1: yet and we might only have it for two years.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's well, so this is Pandora's box, right,

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Speaker 3: This is the same thing that we're talking about with name,

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Speaker 3: image and likeness going to the players. You're gonna see

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Speaker 3: multimillion dollar deals on the regular for these players. That's

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Speaker 3: gonna become synonymous with the sport. I think, frankly, even

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Speaker 3: this Madden six hundred dollars payout per player, even that's

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Speaker 3: going to open a Pandora's box of its own. In fact,

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Speaker 3: that may become the sole reason that players unionize over

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Speaker 3: when it's all said and done. Because I was crunching

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Speaker 3: the numbers, and you know me, I'm not a numbers guys.

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Speaker 3: So I had a calculator out and I was putting together.

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Speaker 3: I was putting together how much this that that EA

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Speaker 3: Sports could make if this game sells well, and you

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Speaker 3: know you're talking about potentially over the course of I

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Speaker 3: don't know, the first couple of weeks. If they sell

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Speaker 3: like they did back in twenty fourteen, you at seventy

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Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars in the first two weeks of

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Speaker 3: game sales. Well, they're only paying each of these student

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Speaker 3: athletes six hundred.

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Speaker 4: Bucks per player.

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Speaker 3: Well, six hundred bucks per player times eighty five times

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Speaker 3: one thirty two, which is eighty five players per the

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty two Division one teams comes out

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Speaker 3: to like seven million dollars. So if the players are

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden seeing EA Sports makes something like

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Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars off of seven million spent on

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Speaker 3: their name, image, and likeness, there's gonna be open revolt.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna see all these things in college football

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Speaker 3: to turn into fourteen games pretty too soon. Fourteen games,

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Speaker 5: I don't think we'll get there anytime soon, but I

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Speaker 5: agree that we will get I mean, this is becoming

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Speaker 5: now a money grab. It's been a money grab since

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Speaker 5: the NIL started. And frankly, the big story with the

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Speaker 5: NIL stuff happened yesterday too. When I don't want to

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Speaker 5: get too into the legal mumbo jumbo, but the Tennessee

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Speaker 5: and Virginia ruling by the judge that allowed NIL collectives

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Speaker 5: to now speak directly with high school recruits and transfer

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Speaker 5: portal players.

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Speaker 4: That is a big, big change.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's basically opening up a completely separate Pandora's

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Speaker 5: with incoming players and transfers. And it is another step

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Speaker 5: towards the unionization of college football. We saw it a

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Speaker 5: little bit earlier. I think it was a week or

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Speaker 5: of on this collision course with let's just call it

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Speaker 4: It's an open market with unions.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's the NC double A is going to

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Speaker 5: cease to exist in the current form in a decade.

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Speaker 5: Like it's just not going to be the same NC

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Speaker 5: double A because of the football programs kind of overtaking

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Speaker 5: the money. And it's gonna be interesting, I think with

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Speaker 5: the expansion. Yeah, I agree, Brian, Like, can we have

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Speaker 5: one year at twelve first, before like we already expanded,

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Speaker 5: Like I'd like to see it one time through the

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Speaker 5: expand this thing right away. But I just think they

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Speaker 5: see the potential for it, and it's almost like, you

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Speaker 5: know when one of those cartoons when like the the

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Speaker 5: you know, Donald Duck like sees like the treasure and

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Speaker 5: his eyeballs turned to money signs. They're completely hypnotized by this,

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Speaker 5: you know, the dollar, And I think it's just going

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Speaker 1: A monster that we don't even recognize anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I hate to see it because my

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Speaker 2: ideal scenario now that it's a twelve team format for

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Speaker 2: at least two.

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Speaker 1: Years, subject to change.

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Speaker 2: You know, like my ideal format would be every game

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Speaker 2: is a home game except for the championship game. Was

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Speaker 2: that which is at the Rose Bowl every single year?

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Speaker 2: We keep land daddy of them all? Are you beholden

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Speaker 2: to the Fiesta Bowl? Do you think the Sugar Bowl,

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Speaker 2: a neutral sit site, is gonna make a semi final

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be worse. And if you had every game at.

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Speaker 2: A home stadium, you keep the importance of the regular

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Speaker 2: season intact to a similar degree than what we've enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: You don't have teams at the end of the regular

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Speaker 2: we get a first round by we're gonna be at

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Speaker 2: neutral sites anyway, so let's shut it on down.

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Speaker 1: Who cares about the SEC championship game?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, You're not gonna get that

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Speaker 1: But the power of the dollar, they're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: And then they're gonna expand this thing to fourteen, maybe sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And think about this. If it's sixteen team, who has

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Speaker 2: the advantage. It's the teams that don't get to the

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Speaker 2: they don't have an extra game to.

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Speaker 4: Play use the season.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely devalues the regular season even more so. I

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Speaker 2: would love to see home sites for all these playoff

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Speaker 2: this is going because as soon as you start talking

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Speaker 2: to me about the Big Ten and the SEC wanting

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Speaker 2: it to expand for selfish, self serving reasons, which is

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Speaker 2: automatic bids, now we're even watering down the regular season more.

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Speaker 2: If that becomes a thing. I hate where this thing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right if you give if

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Speaker 3: you don't make it fair open competition where every conference

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Speaker 3: or what's left of them when the things start shaking

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Speaker 3: out more, every conference has equal share of participation. What

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have is an uneven representation of college football

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Speaker 3: have you'll have teams like you know, I name them,

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Speaker 3: like you know, the third best out of the SEC

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, Hunt State is the clear example this

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Speaker 3: It's like, there you go, you know, you know, you

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Speaker 3: get unfair representation. I guess in in in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And then and then all of a sudden, you know

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Speaker 3: some other teams who may be more deserving out of

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Speaker 3: what have you get snuffed out, left out because they're

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Speaker 3: they're making too much room for the big conference power

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Speaker 3: I think it gets really wonky. But if this is

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Speaker 3: is it feels at least more like a meritocracy like

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Speaker 3: college basketball does, and you expand the playoffs even beyond fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Now I understand you're saying, and I agree with it.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what twelve looks like before we expand to fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's see what fourteen. Let's see if fourteen is

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Speaker 3: even viable before we expand beyond that.

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Speaker 4: But if you can set up a situation.

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Speaker 3: Where you have enough teams where it makes sense to

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Speaker 3: print out brackets in college football also, and now with

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Speaker 3: pay players being paid, and I promise you they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be getting paid a lot more than they are right

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Speaker 3: now in terms of baseline pay entering college football over

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Speaker 3: the next decade. So a lot of these conversations about hey,

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Speaker 3: we're abusing these student athletes is gonna go away because

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Speaker 3: they're paid professionals. You're gonna see more games played, you know,

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Speaker 3: twelve regular season games plus a championship game, plus maybe

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Speaker 3: it'll take four more games to get to hoist a

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Speaker 3: national championship trophy, you know. Okay, so say it is

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Speaker 3: a fifteen game season for the national champs, you think

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Speaker 3: anybody's complaining, especially if they have some bonuses built into

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Speaker 3: this system potentially working. And then as a result of it,

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Speaker 3: I see fans enjoying the postseason way more than they

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Speaker 2: The salary cap is up. It's up in a big way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And what this does is it puts certain

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Speaker 5: It's like, on the surface, it looks like this is

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Speaker 2: and it's it's just gonna keep going up like it's

439
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Speaker 2: not expected to boom steadily like a thirteen point six

440
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: percent increase like every single year. This was more of

441
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: the bigger boom with the TV money. But it's not

442
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: going down unless there's another pandemic and knock on wood,

443
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: we don't have to do that whole thing again. It's

444
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: just a cash cow, man, That's how it is. You've

445
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: got all these You have an Amazon Prime. They're replacing

446
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: Peacock for the streaming only playoff game, and that's for

447
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: the tune of one hundred and twenty million dollars for

448
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 2: a game, you know what I'm saying. So when you

449
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: couple that with the overall TV money, it's no mystery

450
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: why the cap has ballooned the way it has. But

451
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna balloon our mornings over here

452
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: because we've got Nick Cope with us.

453
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: Huh.

454
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: That is the sound of pleasantries, you know what I'm saying.

455
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: Not a hot air balloon, right, No, no, no, definitely,

456
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: not a.

457
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 9: Majestic, A majestic hot air balloon.

458
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: I love it.

459
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, I don't think. I don't think that adjective

460
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Speaker 7: has Oh maybe I don't know.

461
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Speaker 4: I like it.

462
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: Run with it, all right, we'll do it.

463
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Speaker 9: Majestic hot air balloon incoming. Speaking of the cap, the Dolphins,

464
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 9: they are trying to get under it. They released a

465
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Speaker 9: couple of their veteran players on defense, including defensive lineman

466
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Speaker 9: Emmanuel Ogba, and NFL media reports that they're expected to

467
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 9: release four time Pro Bowl corners Avian Howard. Also late

468
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 9: on Friday, we learned of the first franchise tag. NFL

469
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Speaker 9: Meter reports the Bengals are placing the tag on receiver

470
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Speaker 9: T Higgins. Expect to be valued at twenty one point

471
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 9: eight million four receivers this year.

472
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Speaker 7: It'd be fully guaranteed. College sports.

473
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Speaker 9: Federal judge in Tennessee granted a preliminary and junction that

474
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Speaker 9: prevents the NCAA from enforcing its name, image and likeness

475
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 9: rules as it relates to recruiting and the NBA. The

476
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 9: Warriors and Steve Kerr have agreed on a two year,

477
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 9: thirty five million dollar extension and makes Kerr the highest

478
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Speaker 9: paid coach in NBA history. On the court, Friday night,

479
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 9: the Warriors knocked off the Hornets a low scoring game

480
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 9: ninety seven to eighty four, its nineteen ninety five all

481
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Speaker 9: over again Bucks edge. The West leading Timberwolves in Minnesota

482
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 9: won twelve to one oh seven, Lakers over the Spurs

483
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Speaker 9: one twenty three to one eighteen Victor Winban Yama had

484
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Speaker 9: a five y five game that's at least five points,

485
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Speaker 9: five rebounds, five assists, five steals, and five blocks. He's

486
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Speaker 9: a fifteenth player in NBA history to do it in

487
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Speaker 9: the first sense.

488
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Speaker 7: Yusuf Nurkic.

489
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Speaker 9: Back in twenty nineteen, speaking of Nikola Jokich, he had

490
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Speaker 9: a triple double for the second straight nine as the

491
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Speaker 9: Nuggets handled the Blazers one twenty seven to one, twelve,

492
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 9: twenty nine to fifteen, and fourteen. For Jokic, he'd beat

493
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Speaker 9: the Pelicans one oh six to ninety five. Jimmy Butler

494
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 9: was among four players ejected during a fourth quarter scuffle.

495
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Speaker 7: Golf.

496
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 9: You got the Mexico Open third round coming up today.

497
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 9: American Jason Knapp among a four way tie atop the

498
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Speaker 9: leader board and finally scores in spring training.

499
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Speaker 7: Not just kidding, guys, back to.

500
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Speaker 2: You, nice, I was ready for some Cactus League action

501
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: right there.

502
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Speaker 1: We'll both be dring training already. He's already sent.

503
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Speaker 7: Out practice league. Better than Florida, right, I.

504
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: Don't know, I really don't know what. Yeah, yeah, I

505
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 4: never had a strong opinion.

506
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, better than cactuses.

507
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 7: Not competitively. I was just gonna say, travel wise.

508
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 9: You can literally hit up Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody

509
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 9: in Arizona.

510
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've never been if you go to Old

511
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Speaker 3: Scottsdale for spring training.

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

513
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Speaker 3: I lived in Arizona for a year with the when

514
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Speaker 3: I was playing for the Cardinals. Dude, spring training in

515
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: Arizona is majestic. They've got that that whole thing set

516
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: up real well over there.

517
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Speaker 2: You know, now that the football season is over, we've

518
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: been putting our heads together for we call them benchmarks

519
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: in radio. You know, it's just like a staple where

520
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: at the end of the first hour we do this segment, right,

521
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: and it's just a common thing that we do each week.

522
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: So the football season's over and that's changed things a

523
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe we do something like Brian and Rich

524
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: actually agree on a hot button topic. You know, opposite

525
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: sides often, And I know we're gonna be on the

526
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Speaker 2: opposite side of this next one, because.

527
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Speaker 4: Here we go.

528
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Speaker 2: I remember reading one of your tweets about a football

529
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Speaker 2: game and there was a late score in garbage time,

530
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Speaker 2: and I remember reading it and saying, I completely disagree

531
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Speaker 2: with my guy Rachel over here. And there's something that

532
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: happened last night, and it was in what Nick Cope

533
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: just described.

534
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Speaker 4: It was in that.

535
00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Low scoring Warriors Hornets game. So the point spread is twelve,

536
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: twelve and a half depending on when you got it.

537
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: The Warriors are up by eleven. These are the final

538
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: seconds of the game. You've got the head coaches shaking

539
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: hands with about fifteen seconds to go.

540
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in front of the scorers ki Yes, yeah,

541
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: the game is over.

542
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: And then the Warriors go in for a layup, Miles

543
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: Bridges blocks it. It's goaltending. The game ends where the

544
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Warriors win by thirteen. Full disclosure, I did not have

545
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: any cash on this game.

546
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: The edge in my voice that you will surely here

547
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with that.

548
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: But the Warriors score at the end. The Hornets take

549
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: great exception. This is how it sounded on NBC Sports

550
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 2: Bay Area.

551
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: That's going to be a goaltender watch out.

552
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: And Miles Bridges did not want the fact that Toyotas

553
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 4: went to score that. The reason he shot that is

554
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: there's a difference between the game to shot down.

555
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 10: Look at this sip hurt damn coach currs trying to

556
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 10: work a up ck John's got to yoda's him.

557
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Do these unwritten rules.

558
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 10: If you don't like someone scoring, just keep them from scoring, right,

559
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 10: you're gonna get mad that they didn't want to take

560
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 10: a turnover and they took a shot. Like why is

561
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 10: everybody so sensitive about these types of issues? I mean, normally, again,

562
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Speaker 10: if there's no shot clock, you never shoot. Well, why

563
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 10: take it personal? Like he's not trying to show you up,

564
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 10: He's just want to score. Who cares? And Miles Bridges

565
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 10: gets mad, He's like he pushes him, like, how could

566
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 10: you do that?

567
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: Why would you try to score?

568
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Speaker 11: Come on, man, Well, the unwritten rule is that if

569
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Speaker 11: you have the lead and the game is over, you

570
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 11: never add to the advantage gratuitously. Forget these unwritten rules.

571
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Speaker 2: Okay, I totally disagree with Klena Azabuki, who I love

572
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: does an awesome job for an NBC Sports Bay Area.

573
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: No one's playing these The Warriors don't even look like

574
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: they're going to score, and you're gonna rub my nose

575
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: in it. Really, that's what's happening that It was very

576
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: similar with the Saints and the Falcons.

577
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: At the end of the regular season.

578
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: That's when former Falcons head coach Arthur Smith was saying,

579
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: that's bs to Dennis Allen.

580
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: The game is over, the.

581
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Saints are in victory, formation, and then they run the

582
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: ball in for a touchdown and we're like, whoa, what

583
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: is going on? As they're blowing out the falcons. I

584
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: just look at this. I get it where there is

585
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: a school of thought of hey, if you don't like

586
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: them scoring on you just stop them. But if the

587
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: game is decided, the final seconds are ticking down, you're

588
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: basically in victory formation, and what we're gonna run like

589
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: the fumble? Ruski, No, no, it is on? Are you

590
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: kidding me?

591
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Speaker 1: I hate what the Warriors did last night.

592
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: I hate what.

593
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: The Saints did in Week eighteen.

594
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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree less and the and the only.

595
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, agree less instead of disagree more.

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Speaker 12: I like that, Yeah, I I have I so I

597
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 12: I struggle with this because of competitive forces at play

598
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 12: inside of my brain, Like when when I'm on the field,

599
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Speaker 12: my favorite part of football, for example, you know, personally,

600
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Speaker 12: and I know everybody has a different feeling about it was.

601
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Speaker 4: It was It just felt like it was lawless.

602
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: I know there are rules, and I know that you

603
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: have officials with striped shirts and they have whistles and

604
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: you can't do whatever you want. But I just love

605
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: the feeling of not getting in trouble for things that

606
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: I would have been arrested for outside of the playing

607
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: f right right, right, You could just be as yeah,

608
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: like yeah, sucker punch. You could be as mean and

609
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: as nasty as you wanted. Like I wasn't a nice

610
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: guy on the football field to my opponents, to my teammates,

611
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: I was great, But if you're wearing a different colored uniform,

612
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: you got it. And it was my favorite part of

613
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: it for a very long time. And so I didn't

614
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: care I score as many points as you want on

615
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: us or us against you, because guess what, we're not friends.

616
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: You know, we're combatants. We're out here for a reason,

617
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: you know, uh.

618
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: The the unwritten rules, this brotherhood across the NBA especially,

619
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Speaker 3: it kind of sickens me when some of that stuff

620
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: crosses over into actual games, like we're not out here

621
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: brother in law on it, like this is this is

622
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: how you guys are filling you know, filling the the

623
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: bread box at home, Like there should be a little

624
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: bit of hard feelings. There should be a little bit

625
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: of like, you know, elbows to the rib cages and hey,

626
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: that one's stung a little bit.

627
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna remember for next.

628
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: Time, Like I like that stuff, and maybe maybe in

629
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: today's culture that sounds really old school, you know, I don't.

630
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't consider myself really old school. I'm pretty progressive

631
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: on a lot of ideas that come across the bow

632
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: with sports, and I think that new ideas can freshen

633
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: things up in a lot of ways. But this idea, Yeah,

634
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: we have to preserve the feelings of our opponents.

635
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: For what.

636
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care if your coach likes me.

637
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't care if your players like me. I don't

638
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: care if you're embarrassed or ashamed. I don't care about

639
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: the betting markets. I'm going out.

640
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: There to do a job.

641
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: My job is to embarrass you, So get ready to

642
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: be embarrassed.

643
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 13: Yeah.

644
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: I think this is a it depends on what perspective

645
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 5: you're coming from, type of thing.

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00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a writer or wrong answer here.

647
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 5: I do think if you're a player and you have

648
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: Rich's perspective, it is totally fair to just.

649
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Want to be a bully in this sense.

650
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: I think because I don't have that experience, I do

651
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: think I lean more on Brian's side here because I

652
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: just I watch that play transpire and I don't know

653
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: what mister cannonis. I'm not sure his first name. Lester

654
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: Canonis for the Warriors, is really trying to gain Like

655
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 5: I understand if it's like a real play and you're

656
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: trying to show the team like hey, I'm a backup,

657
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 5: I should get some playing time here. But that wasn't

658
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: the case here. Every one was just kind of standing

659
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Speaker 5: around waiting for the game to end. And then all

660
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, Canonas just made a cut to the

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Speaker 5: basket and at the last second Bridges was like, no,

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Speaker 5: I'm not letting you do that. I actually give Bridges credit.

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Speaker 5: I don't really think he did anything wrong in this spot.

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Speaker 5: He just played defense and then it kind of got

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Speaker 5: a little heated afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I I think this is a This is a tough one.

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Speaker 5: I think the situation in the Falcons game was different

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Speaker 5: because football is a contact sport and guys could get

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Speaker 5: hurt on that play.

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Speaker 4: That's a meaningless play.

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Speaker 5: In this situation last night, like he was just kind

672
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Speaker 5: of cherry picking. You know, it really wasn't hurting anyone.

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Speaker 5: He just kind of stood back there and you know,

674
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Speaker 5: almost made a basket and it didn't. So I know,

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00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: this is a cop out answer, but I think I'm

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00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: on Brian's side slightly perpetive. I understand what was perspective

677
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: because he's a player and it's his it's his livelihood.

678
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Speaker 4: But the game was over. It really was over.

679
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: It was Can you imagine losing a good amount of moneu? Yeah, yeah,

680
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: I understand.

681
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: Hang on, quick, give me I'm singingly thirty to the

682
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Speaker 3: scorer's table. I need thirty seconds to defend your side,

683
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: because there is a part of me now I've transitioned,

684
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: Like I mean, all that tough talk, that was the

685
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Speaker 3: way I thought when I was a player, and that

686
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: family was nice. Well, yeah, I've cleaned up my acts.

687
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: I'm a professional broadcaster. Yeah, like like I mean, like

688
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: the truth is though, as a fan of the game

689
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: and as as a sports better on occasion where you know,

690
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: I'll have something riding on more on these games than

691
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: than just my interests alone. Like if I get beat,

692
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: if it's a bad beat where it's a cherry pick

693
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 3: and score and I have the under and that ticks

694
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: it over with the goaltend or the layup landing, like

695
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, oh my gosh, my heart is falling

696
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: out my bottom, Like I am absolutely you're angry.

697
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 4: And you're angry. Yes, it's.

698
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: There's nothing gained by that. That's the thing is, if

699
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna do that. It reminds me of white men

700
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: can't jump. Oh yeah, do you remember when Raymond It

701
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: is a little bit different situation, but Raymond's like, I'm

702
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: gonna get my other gun and everybody's getting shot, you

703
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, if you score like that

704
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: in that manner, how often do we see in this idea?

705
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: Bob Fitzgerald does a great job. It's like there was

706
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: a difference between the game clock and.

707
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: The shot clock.

708
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't care you're up by eleven, fire on that. Yeah,

709
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: just dribble it out and there's a shot clock violation.

710
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: The other team dribbles it out too. That's typically the.

711
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 5: Coach shaking hands was perfect because all of a sudden,

712
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: Kerr like looks over like wait a minute, the game

713
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 5: was over.

714
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: It was so it was just completely unnecessary, man, totally unnecessary.

715
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Right around the corner, We've got Rich oh, my brother

716
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: that we bicker about sports, you know, with each other.

717
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: That's how it goes. I've got a.

718
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: Art Smith FSR betting analysts, maybe that's the segment which

719
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: side does Jared pick?

720
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Speaker 5: It actually has been I'll be honest, now that we've

721
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 5: done this show for basically two years, that is the

722
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 5: vibe most days. It's oh, Richard, Brian using opposites and

723
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 5: then me kind of being like the middleman.

724
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: The segment is you get the gavel slamming down, it's

725
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: Judge Jared.

726
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 4: Judge Judge wear it.

727
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: There you go, oh man, the role I was born

728
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: to play. I'm Brian.

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Speaker 4: No.

730
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Speaker 2: Right around the corner, a little back to the futures. Huh,

731
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Speaker 2: we'll explore the futures market, some good value to be had.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

733
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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

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Speaker 2: If you miss anything on today's show, be sure to

736
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: check it out. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

737
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow, rate and

738
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

739
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and you'll see the show posted right

740
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: after we get off the year.

741
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Speaker 1: All right, let's do this.

742
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: It's back to the futures.

743
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: Maybe we can boys coming back. Okay, looking at the

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00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: futures market here.

745
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: You could go MLB, NBA, maybe little college hoops. I

746
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you're knee deep in the NFL's future market.

747
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, you could be.

748
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 4: What are you thinking here, Jerry?

749
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Speaker 5: I do like where your head is at though, with

750
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: the NFL futures market, and I can if I can

751
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: predict into the future this summer, we will be doing

752
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: many more back to the future segments that include the NFL,

753
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: because I think the NFL futures market is awesome.

754
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: But March madness. Guys right, we're a.

755
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 5: Week away from the month starting. It is going to

756
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 5: be unlike anything else we've ever seen. It seems like

757
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: this tournament gets weirder and wackier every year. But let's

758
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 5: look at the top, because I do think at the

759
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: top of the market a little bit more predictable than

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00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: the bottom. And which one of these I don't know.

761
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 5: I don't know who this year, San Diego State or

762
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 5: Florida Lantic is going to be. I got to look

763
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: at a bracket first, But I think Yukon's the best

764
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: theme in the country. I think I've made that assumption

765
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: earlier in the year, and now that assumption has been

766
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: crystallized by the play. I know they're coming off of

767
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: a loss, a bad loss at Creyton, but kind of

768
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 5: like the bitcoin analogy from earlier in the show, when

769
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 5: a good stock dips, like an Apple or a Microsoft,

770
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Speaker 5: you buy. And that's where I'm at with Yukon right now.

771
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 5: So they are still plus money to make the final

772
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 5: four over at bet MGM plus one ten. I saw

773
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Speaker 5: some other prices available at some other shops, but obviously

774
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Speaker 5: we give you the bet MGM prices here on the show,

775
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 5: and I think it's a good price because I think

776
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: when the tournament starts, they're going to be odds on,

777
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Speaker 5: and when I say odds on, I just mean minus money,

778
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 5: meaning they're be favorable odds for them to make the

779
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: final four. But right now you can still get them

780
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Speaker 5: at plus money. I think it's a bet you make

781
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 5: now and you just sit on it for a couple

782
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 5: of weeks and by the time we get to the

783
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: tournament that bet will grow in value.

784
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Speaker 4: So Yukon to.

785
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 5: Make the final four plus one ten, I am recommending

786
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: that wager this week.

787
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Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, do we have our results from

788
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: the like the football futures that we had, Yeah, I can.

789
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: Pull them up if you want.

790
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 5: I have the tweet saved from earlier in the UH

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Speaker 5: in the land right.

792
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Now, if we can review that, I can review it.

793
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: You want me to review right now? Who do you

794
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: want me to get first?

795
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: I have it?

796
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: Whoever you feel like, break your give Rich, you're the

797
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: tiebreaker in this.

798
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: Alabama National champion six to one.

799
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Speaker 4: That's a loss for Rich.

800
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Speaker 5: Jordan Travis he was close, He was close, Jordan Travis

801
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 5: Heisman unfortunate.

802
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: Also close.

803
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 5: How about this one though, Patriots over six and a

804
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 5: half wins, No, didn't get there.

805
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll say the best one for last, Jets over

806
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: nine and a half wins.

807
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: That one did not get there either. So Rich is

808
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Speaker 5: zho to four heading into his final pick. His final pick.

809
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: The Chiefs to win the Super Bowl at six?

810
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: Oh how about that.

811
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Speaker 1: Burger at plus what was it? Six to one?

812
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: So made up for all the other made it? He

813
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: made money on all the Is that crazy?

814
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Speaker 6: Awesome?

815
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 4: Is crazy?

816
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 5: Brian no Rams over six and a half wins, that's

817
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: a win. Cowboys over nine and a half wins, that's

818
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: a win. Dolphins over nine and a half wins, that's

819
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Speaker 5: a win. Nebraska under six wins. That's a win, right,

820
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Speaker 5: didn't they Yeah? And then Packers under seven and a half, Yeah,

821
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Speaker 5: I won. But a good show there, Brian, Packers, thank you.

822
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Speaker 5: Four and one, Utip, this is this is my picks.

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Speaker 5: You tipt under over five and a half, that was

824
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Speaker 5: a loss. Oregon State over eight that was a push.

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Speaker 5: So one oh, one and one, and then I went

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Speaker 5: three and oh on the NFL Steelers over eight and

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Speaker 5: a half wins.

828
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Speaker 4: Hit that.

829
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Speaker 5: Panthers under seven and a half wins easy, Packers over

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Speaker 5: seven and a half wins.

831
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Speaker 1: So I went three to one and one. I was

832
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Speaker 1: up like two units.

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Speaker 5: Brian went four and one. Pretty good stuff, up like

834
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Speaker 5: two and a half three units.

835
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Speaker 1: But Rich won it. He's up like five units. Who look, boys,

836
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Speaker 1: it's crazy.

837
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Speaker 2: I tell you the Steelers it's a good season sweat

838
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Speaker 2: because you're like, are they gonna get there?

839
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Speaker 4: I don't know?

840
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: And then they barely always get there. Of course that's

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Speaker 2: what happs all right, coming up next. It's not just

842
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: what it is, it's also what it looks like. Ah, yes,

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00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: good morning, everybody, helpe. Your Saturday is off to a

844
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: great start here, so uh, just settle in because there's

845
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of Justin Fields news between now

846
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: and as we approach the draft. The current Bears quarterback

847
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: expected most likely to be traded as the Bears used

848
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick on a quarterback, probably Caleb Williams.

849
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: But he made news this week because he unfollowed the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears on Instagram.

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00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 4: And he was on the.

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Speaker 2: This was the Saint Brown Brothers podcast. You know you

853
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: got Equanimia Saint Brown, You've got I'm and Ross Saint

854
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: Brown wide receivers in the NFL, and they were asking

855
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, like, what's up with the unfollowing the Bears.

856
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: Here's how that exchange sounded.

857
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Speaker 4: Why do people take social media?

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00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: So?

859
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: Why this and that?

860
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Speaker 6: Like I still mess with the Bears that I'm just

861
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Speaker 6: trying to take a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I follow with the Bears and the NFL. Bro, I'm

863
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: not just trying to have football on my timeline.

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Speaker 6: Like I know, y'all mess with a girl, EQ, especially you,

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Speaker 6: just because you're gonna follow the girl along.

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Speaker 4: I g don't mean you're not messing with him.

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Speaker 2: I love the exall putting EQ on blast right there,

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Speaker 2: But this is how I think of it, Guys. I

869
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Speaker 2: think that you learn lessons in your life as you

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Speaker 2: get older. And I used to think exactly like Justin Fields.

871
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Speaker 4: At that age.

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00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: I used to think, Hey, if you have the wrong idea,

873
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: that's on you. That's not on me. And as I'm matured,

874
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: I started thinking more like a grown up and understand, Oh,

875
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Speaker 2: I have a lot to.

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Speaker 1: Do with responsibility.

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00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's important to be aware of how things look,

878
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: not just be aware of how things are. So Justin Fields,

879
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: I take him at his word. He probably just doesn't

880
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: want stuff in his timeline. He explained it. He's like

881
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: draft Caleb trade Justin I can see how you would

882
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: be done with that. But the way it looks to

883
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people without knowing that initially is oh,

884
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: you're sick of the bears, you want to be traded.

885
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: That's how it looks. I'll put it this way.

886
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: If I go into a job interview wearing flipflops, the

887
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: interviewer might say, Oh, this guy doesn't take anything seriously,

888
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: this guy's lazy. That might not be the truth at all,

889
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: but that's what someone might gather.

890
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: And I have a lot to do with that.

891
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: So Justin Fields, he's just like, hey, man, I don't

892
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: understand why everybody's taking this just being unaware that's how

893
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: it's going to go, because it's gone that way so

894
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: many times when players want to be traded, they want

895
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: to be paid, they play this game, and so we

896
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: thought it was another installment of that. And you've got

897
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: to be aware of how it might look even though

898
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: you don't intend it to be like that.

899
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: Context is everything.

900
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: I really think that it's important, like, for example, the

901
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: fact that he said this on the Saint Brown Brothers podcast,

902
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: as opposed to him saying it at a podium, you know,

903
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: kind of deadpan with a very straight face, instead of

904
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: smiling and laughing with people who he's really close with,

905
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: especially since he's talking to one of his teammates. You know,

906
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: it would come off very differently if you know, a

907
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: media type, like a reporter in a very sterile, you

908
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: know environment, while he's standing at a podium somewhere in

909
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: the distance said hey, you know, why did you unfollow

910
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: the Bears? And he gave that answer, but he didn't

911
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: give it lighthearted and laughing. If he said, you know what,

912
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: I just wanted to cleanse my timeline of football. We're

913
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: into the offseason now, and I didn't want to see

914
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: a lot of that stuff about where I'm going to

915
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 3: land or draft kleb.

916
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people would would have taken

917
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: that and been like, oh, well, that's not believable at all.

918
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: You know, there's no way, Like you know, I really

919
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: do think context is everything here, because you know, I mean, okay,

920
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 3: think about it in your own life, Like if if

921
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: you legitimately, if if you don't answer your phone and

922
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 3: your boys are trying to call you because you're having

923
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 3: an awesome night out and you were supposed to meet

924
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: up and you fell asleep, you know, you turn on

925
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: Netflix for a second and you just before you knew it,

926
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: it was three o'clock in the morning and you miss

927
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: the whole night. Well, you talk to them the next day,

928
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 3: you go, oh my gosh, I fell asleep, Sorry missed it. Well,

929
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: if that's your boys, like all right, maybe they believe you.

930
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: If that's your girl, maybe she doesn't, you know what

931
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Well, where were you while I was sleeping?

932
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what were you watching?

933
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I turned on Stranger Things.

934
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: Stranger Things that's been over for like years now, Like

935
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, it's like it's okay, So you know, it's

936
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: all about context here. I think it's possible that he's

937
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 3: telling the truth, that he truly just wanted to burn

938
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: sage and cleanse his timeline. But I also think that

939
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 3: Justin Fields is a pretty smart guy. I also think

940
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: that he probably knows that this is going to ruffle

941
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: some feathers and it's gonna get people talking a little bit.

942
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: At the same time.

943
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: In fact, i'd imagine when his agent saw that that

944
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: he had, you know, probably found out the same way

945
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: everybody else did when he saw the article that was

946
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: written about this.

947
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, Justin Fields and followed the Bears.

948
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure as agent called him and said, hey, listen,

949
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: if anybody asks you, you just say that you're you're

950
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: taking a break from football on the timeline.

951
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: Okay.

952
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: That's that's the that's the the way we're gonna spin this. Okay,

953
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: do you got that, Justin, Because whether it's true or not,

954
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: you can't have it look like you're petty or emotional

955
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: or unstable at all.

956
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: And that's that's the truth in this situation.

957
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: Have you, guys ever unfollowed a colleague or or a friend,

958
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 5: or a family member or a loved.

959
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: One on social media before. Have you guys ever done that?

960
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 5: You're like, I'm done with this, I need a break.

961
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 5: I'm a family member, not a family Yeah.

962
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah.

963
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: I understand where Justin's coming from here, and I'll use

964
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 5: it in the gambling space. I follow and interact with

965
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 5: some of the smartest, sharpest.

966
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: Minds that do this every day.

967
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 5: During football season, I'm mute, like, if not all of them,

968
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 5: half of them. And these are people that I like, respect,

969
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 5: get beers with. But during the season, and it's different

970
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: for Justin. He wants it off season. I get that

971
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: during the football season when I need to be locked

972
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 5: in the most, I don't want their opinions clouding my judgment.

973
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: So I understand Justin. It's been tough.

974
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 5: I can't imagine what it's like to pick up my

975
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: phone and scroll on social media and see my name posted.

976
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 5: This guy's doing this, this guy's this, this guy's just

977
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 5: so I understand why Justin needs to burn sage. But

978
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 5: back to Brian's original point, optics.

979
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do you can do that.

980
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 5: So I made a mistake earlier in my career where

981
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 5: I unfollowed a lot of people when I left the job,

982
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 5: and it ruffled feathers and people got.

983
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: Mad at me, like you hate me and this and that.

984
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 5: I learned from that mistake the next time I got

985
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: let go from a job or moved on from a

986
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 5: different job, I just muted people and just put them

987
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: to a different place on my timeline. I didn't make

988
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 5: the action overt like that, like I am unfollowing you.

989
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 4: You can see that I unfollowed you.

990
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 5: It is it like I did it quietly to where

991
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: I still respected my headspace, and I removed those people

992
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: from my timeline. But I didn't do it forcibly. I

993
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 5: just did it quietly. Justin should have done it that.

994
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 5: Like he knew it was going to be a story.

995
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 5: He even reacted jokingly like, yeah, I'm glad we're talking

996
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: about this.

997
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: It's a story. Yeah, we know it's a story, Justine.

998
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: This has been a story every time this has happened

999
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 5: for the last like five years, since social media has

1000
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: become this big thing. Anytime a player unfollows the team,

1001
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 5: it is a big story, whether it's rightful or not.

1002
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 5: The fact that he knew that and did it anyways

1003
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 5: tells me the writing's on the wall now. He could

1004
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 5: have done it quietly. That's a why I would have

1005
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 5: done it quietly.

1006
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: I would have.

1007
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 5: Muted the Bears. I would have muted the NFL. It

1008
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 5: wouldn't have come up on my timeline. I would have

1009
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 5: gone about my business. I would have been none the wiser.

1010
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: But he did.

1011
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 5: It was a purposeful action involved there, and I think

1012
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 5: that's kind of the underlying issue.

1013
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: Right, it's either purposeful or careless. It's one of the two.

1014
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: Sure, it's probably a mix of both. Right, he could

1015
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: have just been unaware.

1016
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, like, man, they really take this social media

1017
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: thing seriously. It's like, bro, you're an NFL quarterback. Yeah,

1018
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: if we're going to take it seriously. When Deebo Samuel

1019
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: unfollows the San Francisco forty nine ers, best believe we're

1020
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: gonna care if it's.

1021
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: A first round quarterback.

1022
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: And the debate is do you stick with Justin Fields

1023
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: or draft Calebilliams. Yeah, it's gonna catch a headliner two

1024
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: news flash. You know that's the way it's gonna go.

1025
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: And look, this isn't a deal breaker if I'm thinking

1026
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: about trading for Justin Fields, but it's something I take

1027
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: into account where he's just a kid, and he's in

1028
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: between five right where he unfollows the Bears and the

1029
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: NFL on ig unaware of how most people are going

1030
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: to receive that. He mentioned in that same interview with

1031
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: the Saint Brown Brothers he loves Chicago partially because the

1032
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: city is lit, okay, And a drawback to possibly being

1033
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: traded to the Falcons is, man, all these people are

1034
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: gonna be blowing up my phone asking for tickets. Like

1035
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: I get everything that he's saying, but put it all

1036
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: together and it just screams kid, image, you know what

1037
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: I mean? And like, that's who you're gonna be trading

1038
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: for and paying to be the face of your franchise

1039
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: when his passing numbers have been in the toy which

1040
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: is the most important factor. No, thank you, you can

1041
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: have them.

1042
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and this isn't the first time maturity has

1043
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 3: been questioned with justin fields and things that he's talked about,

1044
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: because I mean, look, I think again, he did a

1045
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: good job clearing it up. And maybe he wasn't complete

1046
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: in with his words, or he didn't broadcast exact his

1047
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: exact feelings as as well as he hoped he did.

1048
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 4: But do you.

1049
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: Remember that sound clip that came out where he's being

1050
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: critical of his offensive coordinator, and then he had to

1051
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: walk back that statement too.

1052
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 4: Oh yes.

1053
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 5: And then Shane Walders or just the gets he just

1054
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 5: sung his praises out in Vegas too, Yeah yeah, and

1055
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 5: so like.

1056
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 3: So this happens, or should say, this has happened a

1057
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: couple of times with Justin Fields, where you know, and

1058
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: it's possible. I'm not Look, I'm not going to put

1059
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: anything past somebody being young and uninitiated to this whole

1060
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 3: this whole process, Like we all take it for granted,

1061
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: how much we know, how much, how much we understand

1062
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: as me a former player, you Jared being tied into

1063
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: the sports betting side of the media forever. You know,

1064
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: you've been broadcasting forever, like like we can see the

1065
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: punches before they land, Like we understand how the world

1066
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: is going to react to a statement at the podium

1067
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: before the world even has times to react, because we've

1068
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: seen it before. But for Justin Fields, he's living this

1069
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: life for the first time, and maybe he hasn't been

1070
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 3: a student of podium speeches the way that broadcasters and

1071
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: sports media types have to be because it's a paid job.

1072
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: It's a paid profession, and so maybe he doesn't understand

1073
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: the bear traps where they lie no pun intended. Now

1074
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: that they they're everywhere. I mean, it is a it

1075
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: is a minefield that you have to navigate as a

1076
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: starting quarterback in this league. And that's the reason why

1077
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: you see so many quarter like Tom Brady who give

1078
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: the media literally breadcrumbs nothing throughout the course of his career.

1079
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, who the most controversial thing we've ever seen

1080
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: him do over the course of a six year starting

1081
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: stretch as a starting quarterback in the NFL, is complaining

1082
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: a little bit about the officiating during that Bills game

1083
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: this season. It's the worst it's ever been. And he

1084
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: actually has a pretty decent gripe. I don't I think

1085
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: he was wrong, but he.

1086
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: Does have a decent gripe.

1087
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: And still still it was a media cycle for about

1088
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: three days. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, he's really shown there

1089
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 3: might be some weaknesses in the armor.

1090
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: They're getting emotional. You know, it's it, but this is

1091
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Speaker 4: the way it goes.

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00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: And if you're not well trained, if you don't have

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00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: a team around you explaining to you that every single

1094
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 3: ward is going to be placed under a microscope, especially

1095
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: depending on what market you play in, well, then then

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00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: you may make some of these mistakes. And I think

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00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: that's what this boils down to, whether or not he

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00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: really wanted to cleanse his timeline or not, and whether

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Speaker 3: or not that's really an indication of how mature he is.

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Speaker 3: What I do know and what Justin Fields is learning

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00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: is everything is going to be scrutinized at this level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what it comes down to.

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Speaker 5: I am fine with his decision to cleanse his timeline,

1104
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 5: like that is healthy, that is growth. That is showing

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00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 5: that you need a break from your job and to

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00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 5: focus on your person.

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Speaker 1: Like that's fine.

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Speaker 5: But when you are in a high profile position, your

1109
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 5: actions will be scrutinized to a exponential degree. The fact

1110
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 5: that he was unaware of that before he did it,

1111
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 5: and who knows, maybe he was aware of it and

1112
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 5: he was like, this is my way of And I

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00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 5: understand where he's coming from. Rich, I know you can

1114
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 5: relate to this. This dude has no control of what

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00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 5: the Bears do for the next three months. They could

1116
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 5: trade him, they could keep him. He has no idea,

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00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 5: He has no control. The only thing he has control

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00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: over is what comes on his Twitter time line so

1119
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: or his Instagram timeline whatever. Like I understand the mechanism,

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Speaker 5: the way his brain was working there. I need to

1121
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 5: get I need a break, I need space from this.

1122
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 5: But when you're an NFL quarterback, if you take space

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Speaker 5: like a sixteen year old girl trying to get away

1124
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 5: from her boyfriend, like oh, I'm just gonna unfollow him

1125
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 5: on all social media's, he'll get the message like that's

1126
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: not the right approach. You either mute or you find

1127
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 5: another outlet to get away from the space because these

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00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 5: teams are judging you. And frankly, I don't think the

1129
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 5: Bears are gonna make this decision based off of this.

1130
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 5: If you need this to happen to make your decision

1131
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 5: on Justin Fields, then you've got another problem completely. But

1132
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: it's definitely not gonna help his cause to whatever next

1133
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 5: team he goes to, because I guarantee you he's gonna

1134
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: get asked about, maybe not this situation, but the situation

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00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 5: when he threw Lukeetzi under the bus.

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Speaker 1: He'll be asked about that.

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00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 5: He'll be asked about some of the other stuff that's

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00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 5: maybe taking place that we're not privy to.

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Speaker 1: On the sidelines in the clubhouse, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: This is just kind of the surface level of a

1141
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 5: little bit of that growth.

1142
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Speaker 4: And he's gonna he's gonna learn from this.

1143
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna mature.

1144
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: All of the mistakes I've made in my life, whether

1145
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 5: it be unfollowing people on social media or stupid things

1146
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 5: I've done in my life, I've learned from it. I

1147
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 5: got a speeding ticket when I was sixteen. I lost

1148
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 5: my license for three months. I haven't got a speeding

1149
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 5: ticket since. You learn from your mistakes when you're growing up,

1150
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 5: and I think Justin Field is in that process right now.

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Speaker 2: And I think, just to be fair, last thing I'll

1152
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: say about it is when we learn mistakes, Jared, you

1153
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: and I especially like Rich You know, you're more on

1154
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: a public stage as an athlete growing up to the

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00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 2: degree that you were. Yeah, you know, but when we're

1156
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: learning things, there weren't millions and millions of people.

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Speaker 1: You're lucky the way saying.

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Speaker 2: This guy just doesn't get it, you know what I mean, Like,

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00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: it just makes it a lot harder to learn those

1160
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: lessons along the way as you're maturing. That's just welcome

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00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: to life as a professional athlete that.

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Speaker 5: Played making mistakes, learning from them, growing like that's just

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Speaker 5: life makes a lot more difficult.

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Speaker 1: All right, come it up.

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Speaker 1: How about this?

1181
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: So Kevin Durant, he was confronted by a heckling Mavericks

1182
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: fan a couple of nights ago.

1183
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: This is before the game.

1184
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: Suns were just running out for shoot around and then

1185
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: this lady just yells the B word and Kevin Durant'

1186
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant's direction. He walks over and he's like, excuse me,

1187
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, like what's going on? And she completely changes

1188
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: her tune. She's like, no, like, give me some dap KDD.

1189
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not shaking hands with you or giving

1190
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: you five or anything like that. And listen to the

1191
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: lady and her guy might have been a couple.

1192
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: They try to say, oh, no, no, nothing wrong here.

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00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: And KD just walked away and basically said, you're a

1194
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: grown up, this is unacceptable. KD didn't ask security to

1195
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: eject the fans. He just addressed it, went over, was like,

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: that's not right, you can't do that, And I thought

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00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: he handled that very well. There's a school of thought

1198
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: of hey, you're an athlete, you shouldn't be so sensitive.

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: There's been far worse said, and I hear all those arguments,

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00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: but unless you're in that situation and in those shoes,

1201
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: and you hear a fan be disrespectful. Again, he's basically saying,

1202
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: why should I accept you being unacceptable? And if you're

1203
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: going to handle it that way, I have zero problem

1204
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: with that whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I thought he did a great job handling that situation.

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: I agree completely. I think that.

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00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: Look, he had time he was Look, it's difficult for

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00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: certain players not to be offended by hecklers. I mean

1209
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: or any performers. There's comedians who will throw hecklers out

1210
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: of a theater or a club. You know's there's there's

1211
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: athletes consistently that you'll see turn around and stare down

1212
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: a fan in the stands who cross some line that

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00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: they've created in their mind. You know, it happens all

1214
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: the time. I mean, shoot, Russell Westbrook, how many fans

1215
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: has he asked to have escorted it out of an

1216
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: arena for things that they do right?

1217
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 4: And Luca did it earlier this season.

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00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens consistently with all these guys, I mean

1219
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: not all of them, but but some of them. And

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01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: I think it probably happens more than we think or

1221
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: more than we know. These are just the ones that

1222
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: are reported and spoken about. But but look, and fan

1223
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: behavior has degraded. Either that or we just have so

1224
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 3: much more social media access to fan behavior. Like so

1225
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: we know about every fight that happens in the stands

1226
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: during the NFL season. We know about every single heckler

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: who gets tossed from an arena because they want their

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: five minutes of fame, or the poster of that that

1229
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: Twitter video or that TikTok video wants their five minutes

1230
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: of you know that pop on their their for you page.

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: You know whatever. It is like.

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01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: So we have more access to all of this than

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: ever before. But I can promise you this is a

1234
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: tale as old as time. We were talking about this yesterday,

1235
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: a little bit like when when somebody pops off and

1236
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: says the wrong thing. It's not it's not always when

1237
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 3: the cameras are there, you know what I mean. It

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01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: happens constantly, and it happened before social media. I played

1239
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: in college football. My final season was two thousand and eight.

1240
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: I was drafted in two thousand and nine. It was

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: when Facebook was still called the Facebook.

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01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dot com.

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01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 3: You needed it was only man to sign up, you

1244
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: need to have a dot edu email exactly, you know. So, so,

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01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: I mean social media was in its infancy, I can

1246
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: promise you.

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 4: People said awful, disparaging.

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: Things about my sister and my mother and all these

1249
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 3: things from the stands. And this is in college football,

1250
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: so you could only imagine how bad the pros have

1251
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: gotten it. Long before we had the kind of access

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01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: we do. But I think if if you're if you're gonna,

1253
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: if you're gonna change someone's mind about how to treat

1254
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: a player, it's gonna have to be on an individual basis.

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: And Kevin Durant felt like he had time for a

1256
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 3: quick chat he spent I mean, if you see the video,

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01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: he spent like twenty five seconds talking to these folks,

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 3: and I'm sure he did most of the talking where

1259
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 3: he said, hey.

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: That's not right. I'm a human being.

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01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 3: I heard what you said and it's awful, and no,

1262
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna shake your hand.

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: And then when they try to offer an excuse.

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01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure because I watched this video close, you know,

1265
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 3: trying to listen to what the guy said when he

1266
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: started doing all the time, and I'm pretty sure he said, hey, man,

1267
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: like I do a sports podcast, So I know that's.

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Speaker 4: What I thought too.

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just kind of waved his hand off,

1270
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: like I'm not wasting another second with you too.

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01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think he handled it. Yeah, I think

1272
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: he handled.

1273
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: About as well as he possibly could have outside of

1274
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: just ignoring it altogether.

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01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I frankly, I do think that is the best

1276
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: way to handle.

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Speaker 5: So I don't get it as bad as Kevin Durant does,

1278
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 5: but I've got a lot of followers. I give out

1279
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 5: a lot of picks. People get mad when they lose,

1280
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 5: and people say stuff to me all the time. If

1281
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 5: I showed you stuff of my DMS, it would appall

1282
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 5: some of you, some of you might actually laugh. But

1283
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: so I relate to it, obviously not on the level

1284
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 5: that Kevin gets, but I relate to just waking up,

1285
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 5: trying to do your job and having random people talk

1286
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 5: smack to you.

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: That happens to me on the daily. He did handle

1288
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:09,479
Speaker 1: this very well.

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01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 5: I rarely try to engage personally with the people that

1290
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 5: talk smack to me on social media, mostly because you'll

1291
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 5: just go back and forth and they just want the trolls.

1292
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 5: They just want to feel heard and seen. I've never

1293
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 5: gone up to someone personally. And my theory is these

1294
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 5: people I call them keyboard warriors. When you actually approach them,

1295
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 5: they're like the opposite. They love you and they just

1296
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 5: want to talk to you. But we live in a

1297
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 5: society now where social media is a mask you put

1298
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 5: things on. You can be anonymous in a crowd of

1299
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 5: thirty thousand people. However, many I know it was pregame,

1300
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 5: so it wasn't. But in the general sense of heckling

1301
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 5: at stadiums, it's hard for the player to actually pick

1302
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 5: out the person who did it. There's a million people

1303
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 5: sitting in the stands right in this situation, it was

1304
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 5: so personal that it was a little different than a

1305
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 5: lot of the situations that we're used to seeing. You know,

1306
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 5: it's not malice in the palace where ron Artess is

1307
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 5: running into the stands trying to fight someone. It was

1308
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 5: very quiet and engaging, and I think it kind of

1309
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 5: fits Kevin's personality based on what I've seen from all

1310
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 5: of his interviews and all of his stuff, like he's

1311
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 5: very aware of what people say about him, very aware,

1312
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 5: almost too much. So the fact that this didn't boil

1313
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 5: over into something he did is a positive, I think.

1314
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 5: But in general, fan interaction at stadiums and on social.

1315
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: Media is appalling.

1316
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 5: The things they say to the players their families if

1317
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: you lose a bet because a guy misses a free throw.

1318
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 5: I've seen college kickers get death threats sent to them

1319
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 5: for missing a kick, Like it is obscene what some

1320
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 5: of these people will say to players, thinking that they

1321
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 5: don't have feelings or emotions. They are human beings just

1322
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 5: like us. And I know they're millionaires, so maybe we

1323
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 5: don't sympathize when other bad things happen, like first world problems.

1324
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 5: But to walk up to a player and you're close

1325
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 5: enough to hi to where you're in an intimate environment,

1326
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 5: it's the pregame. There's not a million people screaming and

1327
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 5: you call him something that he can.

1328
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 4: Hear, and it is not nice.

1329
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand why Kevin would want to look over

1330
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, bro, that ain't cool.

1331
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to do.

1332
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: My job here.

1333
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 5: So applaud Kevin for not escalating and fans relax please.

1334
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, that's the thing is, there's this mentality

1335
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: of I bought a ticket, I can say whatever I want, right,

1336
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: And the thing is, who's preventing that thought process.

1337
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: It's not the ushers.

1338
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: The ushers aren't cracking down on someone yelling the B

1339
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: word at an athlete, you know what I mean.

1340
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: It's what happens.

1341
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: It's either the athlete takes it, pretends it didn't happen,

1342
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: or addresses it like KD or addresses it in a

1343
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: far more aggressive manner like the athletes have to police

1344
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: the bad behavior, that's all that's happening. It'd be like,

1345
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: you know, speeding on the highway. You're going one hundred

1346
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: in a seventy and there's no cop to pull you over.

1347
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: Everyone's going one hundred or more.

1348
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: That's the way it is with fans at these arenas

1349
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: or fields stadiums. And I go back to Lebron did

1350
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: this in Detroit one time. There was a fan that

1351
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: was saying really unfair things, and he, in a cool way,

1352
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: went up there and basically said, you can say whatever

1353
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: you want about me, my family is off limits.

1354
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: And he left it at that, and it was just powerful.

1355
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: It was just like, yeah, okay, all right, we got

1356
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 2: that straightened away. And the last thing I'll say about

1357
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: it is, I think it's so easy for people who

1358
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: are not in those shoes to say what an athlete

1359
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: should or shouldn't do. Where if I'm in Kadi's shoes

1360
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: and I'm hearing that lady yelled the B word, and

1361
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm hearing way worse at arenas online, at some.

1362
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: Point, it's just it's too much.

1363
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: At some point, I'm gonna say that's not acceptable. He

1364
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: didn't go over the top. He didn't go crazy. He

1365
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: didn't put him in himself in a position where it's

1366
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: gonna do him harm or the Suns or the NBA.

1367
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: He just said, you're a grown up, act like it.

1368
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: That is yeah, one hundred percent fair. I thought he

1369
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: did a great job with it.

1370
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: Look, people need to be checked in our society. Like,

1371
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there is a level of entitlement. You know,

1372
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 3: just because you bought a concert ticket or a ticket

1373
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 3: to an NBA game doesn't give you free reign to

1374
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: say and do whatever you want. Public civility is still important.

1375
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: If you are a person like this lady who is

1376
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 3: screaming profanities at professional athletes at football, basketball, baseball games,

1377
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: you are a friggin loser.

1378
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the truth.

1379
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 3: You really are, really, I mean, I mean, I mean,

1380
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 3: you have to do a lot of evaluating of yourself.

1381
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 3: And by the way, if that upsets the one hundred

1382
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: percent of our listening audience, screw you.

1383
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 4: I don't care.

1384
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't care, because guess what, you are a loser

1385
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 3: if you think that's acceptable. I mean, there are children

1386
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 3: who go to these basketball games who are looking up

1387
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: to Kevin Durant like he is a hero and guess what,

1388
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: he is an awesome example for these kids. This is

1389
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: a sensitive, well spoken, educated ambassador of a great sport

1390
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 3: that has encouraged a lot of people to pull themselves

1391
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: out of the worst of circumstances and elevate themselves to

1392
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 3: different places in their life just from being a part

1393
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 3: of a team. And I'm not talking about guys who

1394
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 3: made it to NBA I'm about I'm talking about guys.

1395
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 4: Who played in a in a church league basketball group.

1396
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 3: And guess what, because they lived in maybe some some

1397
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 3: tough environments, they made some they met some real mentors,

1398
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 3: and they had some real people caring about them, and

1399
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: as a result, they got themselves together and they found

1400
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: their way to a college maybe, and they found their

1401
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: way to having a family and a successful business afterwards.

1402
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 3: Like sports opens a lot of doors, and it doesn't

1403
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: have to be professional athletics, it can be it could

1404
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: be the most amateur of levels that can elevate people.

1405
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: And to create a situation where parents are uncomfortable to

1406
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 3: bring their children to see these heroes on the hardwood, yeah,

1407
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: I mean you should be friggin embarrassed. And this woman,

1408
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 3: it's the worst example of a person.

1409
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 4: It really is.

1410
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: Now, maybe she's a great lady. Maybe she's a great lady.

1411
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure she's a great lady. I mean, maybe she's

1412
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 3: a wonderful person. Maybe she has a wonderful life at home,

1413
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: and maybe she was having a weird moment.

1414
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 4: Who knows.

1415
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna judge somebody fully for just one moment

1416
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 3: caught on camera, because if you judge me for my

1417
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,440
Speaker 3: worst moment caught on camera.

1418
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 4: Boy oh boy.

1419
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 3: But but if you're the type of person who's shouting

1420
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 3: profanities at professional athletes, you've got to you probably need

1421
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 3: to book an appointment with somebody you could talk to,

1422
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: you know, you probably you probably need to find a

1423
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: different outlet, you know, because it's just it's bizarre. I

1424
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: don't even want to say immature behavior, because guess what,

1425
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 3: that stuff that children don't even exhibit, that's a learned

1426
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: behavior to cope with whatever.

1427
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 4: Nonsense is going on in your own life.

1428
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 3: It's not Kevin Durant's fault that your life turned out

1429
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 3: the way has, it's yours.

1430
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, fan short for fanatic for a reason, And I'd

1431
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 5: liken it to the Bobby Hurley or is it Dan Hurler?

1432
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 5: About I forget which Hurley bro the Yukon coach.

1433
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: I think it's Dan the other night at Creighton.

1434
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 5: Right, this dude's getting obscenities screamed at him for three

1435
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 5: hours by creating you know, drunk college kids in Omaha,

1436
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 5: and then they lose the game, they get their butts kicked.

1437
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's hearing it the whole game. And then

1438
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 5: he's walking off the floor and you know, someone says

1439
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 5: something else to him and he just snapped like this

1440
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 5: was this was the opposite of the Kevin Durant thing.

1441
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 5: Like he snapped and you could see the look on

1442
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 5: his face. I watched that video like ten times because

1443
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 5: I body language. When I love examining and analyzing athletes

1444
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 5: and co which is when they're losing. I think I

1445
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 5: learned more about them when they lose than when they win. Frankly,

1446
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 5: so I like to watch, you know, highlights of good

1447
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 5: teams losing and kind of see how they handle it.

1448
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 5: And this was obviously all over social media. The viral

1449
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 5: clip where I think he said he was gonna knock

1450
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 5: one of the kids out or something. He basically physically

1451
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 5: made a threat towards them, and it was.

1452
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: Not it wasn't a good look. The the optics of

1453
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: it was bad.

1454
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,839
Speaker 5: But I've also never had a ten fifteen, twenty thousand

1455
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 5: screaming college kids drunk off there, you know what for

1456
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 5: three hours while I'm just trying to do my job.

1457
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 5: And at the end of the night, it just all

1458
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 5: boiled over. And you just saw the emotion boil over.

1459
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 5: And I give credit to Coach Hurley. He leaned into it. Afterwards,

1460
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,839
Speaker 5: he tweeted out a video of the game of throne, shame, shame,

1461
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 5: and he's like, see you Saturday, and he put his

1462
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 5: face on you know the He memed it out, and

1463
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 5: I think that was a high eq moment for him

1464
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 5: because he knows he made a mistake and instead of

1465
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 5: running away and hiding from but he actually said, all.

1466
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:01,839
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, this was a mistake.

1467
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 5: But back to the original point, I have no idea

1468
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 5: what that feeling is when you are just trying to

1469
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 5: do your job and everyone, like the world probably feels

1470
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 5: like it is collapsing on you. And he snapped. And

1471
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 5: I'm glad Kevin didn't snap, because that would have been

1472
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 5: a massive story if he did. But I I sympathize

1473
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 5: a little bit with these coaches and players, because I

1474
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 5: just don't know what it's like to be in the

1475
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 5: center of that arena and have the entire world shaming

1476
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 5: a shame you.

1477
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: Suck your brother, your sister, your aunt, your uncle. Is like,

1478
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: it's gotta be overwhelming.

1479
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 4: It is. It is all right.

1480
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: We've got Nick Cope.

1481
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: He might snap if we troll him about his Niners

1482
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: losing the Super Bowl.

1483
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, but come on, I'll.

1484
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 4: Probably take the high rope.

1485
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 9: I've been able to, uh to put that in the past,

1486
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 9: and you just got to open the wound man to soon.

1487
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 9: It's still it's still healing. It's doing well, but it's

1488
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 9: still healing. By the way I was I was reading

1489
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 9: more about that Dan Hurley thing. I thought that he

1490
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 9: was saying the secure already guard will knock you out

1491
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 9: if you reach over.

1492
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 6: SI.

1493
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 7: He's pointing, he's.

1494
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 9: Got he's got one security guard right on him, another

1495
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 9: one in front of him, and the guy was leaning

1496
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 9: over the railing yelling at him, And I think Dan

1497
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 9: Hurley was saying, he'll knock you out if you if

1498
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 9: you reach over, So I think that is more what

1499
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 9: Hurley was saying.

1500
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 7: But yes, he was still he.

1501
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 9: Had had enough at that point, Let's stick in the NBA.

1502
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 7: Guys, Warriors and Steve Kerr.

1503
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 9: They agreed to a two year, thirty five million dollar

1504
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 9: extension on Friday that makes Kerr the highest paid coach

1505
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 9: in NBA history in terms of games on the court.

1506
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 9: Friday night, Bucks edge the Timberwolves in Minnesota one twelve

1507
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 9: to one oh seven. Lakers beat the Spurs one twenty

1508
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 9: three to one eighteen. Lebron had thirty victor Webbin Yama.

1509
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 9: He had a five y five at least five points, rebounds, assists,

1510
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 9: and Steele's fifteenth player in NBA history to do so,

1511
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 9: first since Yusuf Nurkic in twenty nineteen. Nikola Jokich had

1512
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 9: a triple double for the second night as the Nuggets

1513
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 9: handled the Blazers one twenty seven to one twelve, twenty

1514
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 9: nine to fifteen, and fourteen for Jokic.

1515
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 7: Now in the NFL salary.

1516
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 9: Cap increasing to just over two hundred and fifty five

1517
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 9: million for next year and unprecedented rise of over thirty

1518
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 9: million from last season. NFL Meter reports the Bengals are

1519
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 9: placing the franchise tag on receiver T Higgins, valued have

1520
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 9: twenty one point eight million and fully guaranteed.

1521
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 7: Guys back to you.

1522
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: Thank you Nick real fast. It's just funny.

1523
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell, the head coach of Iowa State, there was

1524
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 2: a video it was I forget. It was like going

1525
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: into halftime or something like that, and some fan they're

1526
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: walking to the locker room. Some fan said something stupid

1527
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: and Matt Campbell is almost bull rushing this guy, you

1528
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and there are players holding him back,

1529
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 2: and it's just it's funny to me where a coach,

1530
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: a head coach, yeah, could react like that, and depending

1531
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: on who it is, there might not be much said.

1532
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: But the audacity of Kevin Durant. Some people will be like,

1533
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,879
Speaker 2: he's just so centered. He didn't bull rush anyone, he didn't.

1534
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 4: Need to be held back.

1535
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: It's just funny how we could expect more from the

1536
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: athlete and not as much from a head coach who's

1537
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: supposed to be setting the tone and the mature one.

1538
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: It's just funny how that works out. Coming up next, though,

1539
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: the final results are in. Oh boy, we had our

1540
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: rapid fire football picks throughout the entire season. Whoever's the

1541
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: caboose has to do the Will Levis we're talking a

1542
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: healthy portion of mayo and the coffee.

1543
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 4: How's the mayo in Indiana? By the way, in Vegas,

1544
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 4: I don't.

1545
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: Know, boy, but I might know soon.

1546
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 2: We have details there. I'm telling you, this is an

1547
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 2: epic story. It is on the way. We've got rich

1548
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,879
Speaker 2: oron Berger, Penn State, all the Mayor, Jared Smith FSR,

1549
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: betting analyst.

1550
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 4: I'm Brian know.

1551
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: The results are unveiled on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday.

1552
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday

1553
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Man, the results are in,

1554
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: and it's an epic story here. So again on the

1555
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: line for whoever's in last place of our football season,

1556
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 2: rapid fire picks have to drink coffee with a bunch

1557
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: of mayonnaise in it. A lah Will levis okay, And

1558
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: so here's the scenario. Rich Rich was a bolt of

1559
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 2: lightning down the stretch, okay, eating up to the Super

1560
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: Bowl picks. I had over four weeks. I had a

1561
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: three to nine stretch while rich went eight and four.

1562
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: Wow.

1563
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: So heading into our Super Bowl picks, and we made

1564
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: six of them right because we did it over two weeks.

1565
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: I need two more wins than Rich That's what I need.

1566
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking for. So both Rich and I

1567
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: had the Chiefs plus two and the under forty seven

1568
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: and a half for the game. We both hit on those,

1569
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: but for me, I didn't make up any ground. That

1570
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: just canceled each other out. So I've got I need

1571
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: two more wins than Rich with four picks remaining.

1572
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so I go two and two.

1573
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 2: I hit on Deebo Samuel's under receiving yards and the

1574
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: largest lead of the game being under fourteen and a half.

1575
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: I missed on Purdy's completions because of over time he

1576
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 2: got there, and then I missed on yeah, Mahomes's longest completion.

1577
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: I took the under. He had a deep ball to

1578
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: McCole Hardman. That's right in the game.

1579
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 2: So I go two for two and two. So Rich

1580
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: just has to get one of his four picks right.

1581
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at this, and he took Isaiah Pacheco

1582
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 2: over sixty seven and a half half good pick, didn't

1583
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: get there. He took Mahomes under half like zero point

1584
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: five interceptions. It's like he said no interceptions. He had

1585
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: the one interception right, So that's wrong. Rich had the

1586
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs plus a half point in the first half.

1587
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: They're trailing, so that's wrong. It's down to this. This

1588
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 1: is a final shot.

1589
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: Here, Rich Deebo Samuel over seven and a half rushing

1590
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: yards in the first half.

1591
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: Okay, now, I'm not even kidding.

1592
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,919
Speaker 2: I look at the box score and my heart sinks

1593
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: because I see Deebo Samuel three carries for seven yards,

1594
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 2: longest rush is seven yards, and I'm like, oh no,

1595
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: was that the first half?

1596
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: Was it the second halven?

1597
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: And then I look and I'm like, oh shoot, this

1598
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: is the box score from the NFC Championship.

1599
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: This is the Niners that gets a lions, And I'm like,

1600
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: oh no.

1601
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 2: So I go to the Super Bowl box score. Deebo

1602
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 2: Samuel three carries for eight yards, longest rush is nine yards,

1603
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh no, is it the first half

1604
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: or the second half? It was the second. So Stritch goes,

1605
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: oh and four and those figs and so the final.

1606
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: Standings ties count.

1607
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: Half a win, half a loss, right, that's the way

1608
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: the NFL does it. So Rich has thirty four wins

1609
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: and three ties. So that's you know, we added up

1610
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: half a loss half a loss. That's one and a

1611
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: half wins, one and a half losses. So thirty four

1612
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: plus one and a half, that's thirty five and a half.

1613
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: I had thirty six. Oh my half a win.

1614
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: I got him by the hook. Basically wow, finish.

1615
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah you did well.

1616
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: You finished with basically forty wins because you had two ties.

1617
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1618
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, you were at forty. I was

1619
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: at thirty six. Rich was at thirty five and a half.

1620
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 3: All I have to say is thank you. This is

1621
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 3: this is one of those years where I mean, look,

1622
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 3: we were down and out for a while Team Wrenberger. Right,

1623
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 3: we got back to the lab, we put a couple

1624
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 3: of things together.

1625
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Right. I kind of felt like, honestly, I kind

1626
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:32,520
Speaker 4: of felt.

1627
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 3: Like, I'm mahomes this thing, Like was it a great

1628
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 3: regular season? No, but down the stretch, like when it mattered, Yeah,

1629
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: I pulled it all together. All I needed, though, was

1630
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of magic in overtime and and things

1631
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: could really panned out for me.

1632
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 4: I just I couldn't finish.

1633
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: Crazy craziness though.

1634
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: Coming up next a very tricky spot for the league.

1635
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 2: We'll explain that on the way. You know what's funny

1636
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: is we were recapping our rapid fire picks for the season.

1637
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: I was so sure after Super Bowl Sunday, I didn't

1638
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: even like count everything up. I didn't do it until Wednesday.

1639
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 3: I was I thought you were in last place with

1640
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 3: a bullet. I was like, ah, I flew through that

1641
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: one thing.

1642
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: I think that we didn't heart. Yeah, I'm not even

1643
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: gonna look.

1644
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: I checked and and figured everything out on Rich's birthday,

1645
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I just I can't.

1646
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,480
Speaker 1: I can't tell him on his birthday.

1647
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 4: The way on vacation, I saw some awesome pictures from

1648
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 4: the beach.

1649
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 3: I think, oh, yeah, we uh yeah, we've got a

1650
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 3: little resort down the beach from our house that we

1651
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 3: uh we we crashed out for a staycation over the weekend.

1652
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I definitely I appreciate your your your prudence,

1653
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 3: and your your restraint.

1654
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 4: Brian from dancing on my season long Gray. Oh wow,

1655
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 4: I could not do that at all.

1656
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: By the way, for our non football picks, you know,

1657
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: we'll keep track of those.

1658
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 4: Are we just doing it for fun? Are we gonna?

1659
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's put a little something on it.

1660
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 4: What do you think? I think?

1661
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 5: I think for non football, I think we should be

1662
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 5: a little more lenient with the grading because we all

1663
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 5: kind of have different perspectives of which sports we like

1664
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 5: to attack, and it's like a totally different vibe. Right,

1665
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 5: But if you want to do some kind of contest

1666
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 5: during the offseason, I'm down. I just think we need

1667
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 5: to come up with like the structure of it. Yeah,

1668
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 5: because like having three picks on a Saturday, we could

1669
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 5: be doing college basketball, NBA, NHL, you know, baseball. Like

1670
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's an accurate way to kind

1671
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 5: of judge us, if.

1672
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: We're all doing different sports.

1673
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 4: If that makes sense, I love it.

1674
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: I think we should.

1675
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 4: Yeah that does. Just do that sounds like fun.

1676
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so let us do it?

1677
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: So who cares? So then do you?

1678
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 5: I mean, because we didn't do it last week, So

1679
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 5: we amna do three picks this week? Yeah, and then

1680
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 5: well we'll start it. We'll just keep going the whole summer,

1681
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 5: do the whole summer, and we'll real football season.

1682
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: Roles football season. Yeah. Yeah, just do our non football

1683
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm down.

1684
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 5: Go your give ourselves a be a week off, a

1685
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 5: bye week after Super Bowl, and then we start this week.

1686
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 2: We're right back at it, right back to the grind,

1687
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: you know. So this is it's an interesting story and

1688
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: rich especially this was in the San Diego area. Right, So,

1689
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've talked quite a bit about this on

1690
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: local radio.

1691
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 4: But the Chiefs.

1692
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: Signed punter Matt Ariza. Now, he was a sixth round

1693
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: pick in twenty twenty two with the Buffalo Bills, and

1694
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: he was accused of raping a seventeen year old girl.

1695
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: So the story is just so we're all on the

1696
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: same page, Matt Riza, way back in twenty twenty one,

1697
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: went to a party, had con sexual sex with this girl.

1698
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: She says.

1699
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: Afterward, Eriza took her to the house party she was

1700
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: raped by him and other San Diego State football players.

1701
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 2: Now prosecutors, they concluded Ariza was not at the party

1702
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: at the time of this alleged rate, so there were

1703
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 2: not charges, but there was a lawsuit, and so with

1704
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 2: the lawsuit ongoing, this is from August twenty twenty two

1705
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:19,480
Speaker 2: until December of twenty twenty three, that lawsuit was ongoing.

1706
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 2: The lawsuit was ended, and now we fast forward to

1707
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: the here and now the Chiefs have acquired Matt Riza.

1708
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 4: He's on their roster now.

1709
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,560
Speaker 2: And so the thing I think, and I'll let you

1710
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 2: guys go, I'll keep this short and simple. I just

1711
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 2: think it shows the position that the NFL and NFL

1712
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: teams are in. They can be in a really tough

1713
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: spot if a player has been accused of something really serious,

1714
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 2: like matt Riza was and the Bills they thought, well,

1715
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 2: we just got to release the guy. It's two the

1716
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: allegations are too significant.

1717
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 1: We don't know for sure what's going on.

1718
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: And if if a player isn't suspended, if he's not

1719
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 2: released and you just got him on your roster and

1720
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 2: he's playing game after game after game and down the

1721
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: road he's found to be guilty of these accusations, it looks.

1722
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: Horrible for the team, for the league. It looks like

1723
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 1: you don't care.

1724
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 4: You just don't care.

1725
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: It's all about wins and losses and all that.

1726
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 4: Now.

1727
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: On the other hand, if the player is suspended, is

1728
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: released like matt Riza was, and he's not found to

1729
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: be guilty, that's a rough deal for the player. It's yeah,

1730
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: that part of it is really interesting to me, and

1731
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 2: that's where my mind goes because I don't know what

1732
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: did or didn't happen with matt Riza specifically. I just

1733
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: know how tough that spot is for the NFL and

1734
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 2: NFL teams when a player is accused of something so

1735
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: significant but you don't know at the time.

1736
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: If it's true or not. That's the reality we're in

1737
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: right now.

1738
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 3: I mean, perfectly stated from the standpoint of public relations

1739
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: and the responsibility that the NFL has and these franchises

1740
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 3: have to protect the brand because the reality of the

1741
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,839
Speaker 3: situation is they don't know matt Riza either. They're drafting

1742
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 3: a guy who they watched on tape. I don't know

1743
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 3: how many conversations the Bills had with him specifically, but

1744
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,839
Speaker 3: you're drafting a guy a prospect, you're prospecting. It's literally

1745
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 3: like sinking a pick axe into the side of a

1746
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 3: mountain and trying to find gold. It's the same thing.

1747
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 4: You don't know if it's going to pan out until

1748
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 4: you start digging.

1749
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 3: Well, this situation got real ugly publicly immediately for the Bills,

1750
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 3: and they cut Bayton. They ran, and you can't blame

1751
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: them because from a public relations standpoint, imagine if a

1752
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 3: pastor of a congregation, a brand new pastor to a

1753
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 3: congregation got accused of these sort of things, do you

1754
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 3: think he would be speaking at the next mass that

1755
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 3: The answer is no, Oh, he wouldn't you know if

1756
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 3: a CEO was hired at a major tech company and

1757
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,440
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, allegations like this came out. Again allegations,

1758
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 3: but still if they came out publicly, do you think

1759
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 3: he would still be the CEO or would the board

1760
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 3: get rid of him? Because again, you're prospecting when you

1761
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: make a new hire, You're trying to find somebody for

1762
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 3: a role. You're not sure until they're actually, you know,

1763
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 3: getting their hands dirty and working with the with the

1764
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: group that they're tasked to work with. So from the

1765
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 3: NFL team standpoint, it is completely defensible what the Buffalo

1766
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 3: Bills did. Now, from a personal standpoint, I know Matt Riza.

1767
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 3: I've spoken to him personally many times. I've interviewed him

1768
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: on the phone on my radio show many times. I

1769
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 3: watched every single game of his college career. He is

1770
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: inarguably one of the most dominant players. And I played

1771
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 3: with Tom Brady, and I played with Philip Rivers, and

1772
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 3: I played with Randy Moss, and I played with some

1773
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 3: greats at Gronkowski. He is honestly one of the most

1774
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 3: dominant players to ever play his position. I've ever seen

1775
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 3: in person. It was unbelievable. I've never seen a punter

1776
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 3: takeover games, but matt Riza could.

1777
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.

1778
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 3: So to see what happened in this whole situation was surprising,

1779
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 3: It was shocking. I think San Diego State was tasked

1780
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: with an insane amount of pressure to get all these

1781
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 3: things right, and I think they handled it really well.

1782
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 3: I think matt Riza personally handled this extremely well. And

1783
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: here's here's the reality of the situation. I've played with.

1784
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 3: I've played with many players, unfortunately who were accused of things.

1785
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say many, but I played with some guys

1786
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 3: who were accused of things, and later it was found

1787
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 3: out that the accusations were false and it and and

1788
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 3: many of those accusations were along the lines of, you know,

1789
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: a sexual assault allegation against them. You know, a young

1790
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: woman makes a c against a player because maybe there's

1791
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 3: some regret attached to the decisions that she made, or

1792
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 3: maybe something didn't happen at all, but she's looking for attention, Like.

1793
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 4: I promise you, these things happen.

1794
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: And the unfortunate and very scary reality of these situations

1795
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 3: were the player who is wrapped up in this thing

1796
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 3: gets remembered, whether fair or not, as somebody who was

1797
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 3: once alleged to be involved with a sexual misconduct or

1798
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: a rape case, and the person who accuses oftentimes they

1799
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 3: kind of vanish into the ether and nobody remembers that name.

1800
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 4: But you can destroy a life that way, yep.

1801
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 3: And matt Riza for what it's worth, again, the only

1802
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 3: people who know what happened that night are the people

1803
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 3: who are specifically involved. And he's been obviously exonerated from

1804
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 3: any sort of charges that could have been pressed against

1805
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 3: him from a prosecutorial standpoint, and then also from a

1806
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 3: civil standpoint, as this young lady dropped the case against him.

1807
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 4: He lost two years of his life. That's the reality

1808
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 4: of this situation.

1809
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 3: And that's a scary proposition that somebody can accuse you

1810
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 3: of something that you didn't do and it could just poof,

1811
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: It could just take away two years of his most

1812
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: by the way, prime earning years in terms of his career.

1813
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 4: So this is a cautionary tale.

1814
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,440
Speaker 3: It's a scary situation, and it's an unfortunate situation.

1815
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 4: But this happens. This happens a lot, and this.

1816
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 3: Is just a high profile case that got spoken about,

1817
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 3: but it happens a lot. There's a lot of college

1818
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 3: athletes and professional athletes that things like this have happened to,

1819
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 3: and there's not enough attention being paid to the fact

1820
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,799
Speaker 3: that this can destroy people's lives for a good long stretch.

1821
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really tricky. The Trevor Bauer situation is the

1822
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 5: first thing that comes to mind here.

1823
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, that.

1824
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 5: Situation was even more extreme because of how good like

1825
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 5: he was the Cy Young Award, Like, he was like

1826
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 5: the best pitcher in baseball. Obviously, the NFL is king,

1827
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 5: but the punting, you know, fraternity is not king. So

1828
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 5: this wasn't as big of a story because of the

1829
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 5: position Matt plays.

1830
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: If he was a quarterback of.

1831
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 4: The team, I ain't goodness it would have been.

1832
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 1: And the Trevor Bauer stuff was years in the making.

1833
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 5: And I feel I feel for these for these guys

1834
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 5: because I think they're innocent based on what the letter

1835
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 5: of the law says. They are innocent. And that is

1836
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 5: the only opinion I can have because I wasn't there.

1837
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1838
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 5: I am basing it off of the authorities and the

1839
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 5: legal process, and the legal process has spoken on both

1840
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 5: Matt and Trevor and they have both been exonerated from

1841
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 5: their crimes and now you have to pick up the pieces.

1842
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 5: And for Matt, the NFL career is so short to

1843
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 5: begin with. Now, I know punters can have a little

1844
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 5: more of a longer lifespan, but that is terrifying.

1845
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 4: And same thing with Trevor Bauer.

1846
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 5: All I've read for the last week is Trevor Bower

1847
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 5: wants to play baseball again.

1848
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm seeing clips. He looks good, but he hasn't pitched

1849
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:19,440
Speaker 1: in what three years.

1850
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 4: So it's just it.

1851
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 5: And for Matt, I think you can get right back

1852
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 5: on the horse with punting. I think he'll you know,

1853
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 5: he'll be great. You know in Kansas City. He's got

1854
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 5: a great special teams unit there. I think they're one

1855
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 5: of the better special teams units in the NFL. So

1856
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 5: he'll he'll get his career back on track. I don't

1857
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 5: know if Trevor's gonna be able to get his career

1858
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 5: back on track. And I mean these are like, you know,

1859
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 5: shining stars in their sports where a woman decided, I

1860
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 5: don't want this person to have success or fame anymore,

1861
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 5: and that's kind of what the story was, and they

1862
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 5: just undercut him. I mean, it's it's scary to think

1863
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 5: that this can happen. I just always stay away from

1864
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 5: these stories if I can, and I always put myself

1865
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 5: in situations where I'm not going to get set up

1866
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 5: for that, because man, that is scary enough money like

1867
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 5: Trevor does or Matt does, but it's scary that it

1868
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 5: can happen so fast and you're like, wait a minute,

1869
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 5: I wasn't even at the party.

1870
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: What just happened? So yeah, that is a cautionary till

1871
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: for definitely the athletes dealing with it. But the administrative leave,

1872
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,839
Speaker 1: I think is a is a solution for the NFL.

1873
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 5: Like maybe that's the way to fix it is, you know,

1874
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 5: you just put these guys on leave and you can

1875
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 5: keep them on the roster and let things play out.

1876
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,560
Speaker 5: But I don't know what the right you know, operation

1877
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 5: there is, but I know Baseball does the administrative leave

1878
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 5: and it has worked in certain scenarios.

1879
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you the Commissioner's exempt list. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

1880
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 2: Like yeah, you're on the roster, you're still getting paid,

1881
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: but they're just trying to figure out what's what exactly,

1882
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, And look, man, it's these conversations are always difficult,

1883
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 2: and we just have to state the obvious where it

1884
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 2: can work the other way as well, where there is

1885
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 2: an actual crime and the you know, the the person

1886
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: who did the wrongdoing walks or isn't found guilty, right like,

1887
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: So there is that other side of it where something

1888
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 2: did occur. I'm not saying that's what happened in this situation,

1889
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying there are instances where that is

1890
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 2: the case and someone is assaulted and the other person

1891
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 2: isn't brought to justice.

1892
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 4: That does happen.

1893
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: But I just look at stick with what I know.

1894
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: That's a tough spot for the.

1895
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 2: NFL and for NFL teams to be in when they

1896
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 2: have a player who's accused of something so significant that

1897
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 2: they're gonna look awful if they just allow the player

1898
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 2: to play and then he ends up being guilty. It's

1899
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 2: but what do you do? Because it's like you always

1900
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 2: hear this innocent until proven guilty. It doesn't work like

1901
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 2: that for the team or especially the league, because they're

1902
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 2: gonna look awful if they just allow the guy to

1903
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 2: play and then if you're innocent the whole time, what

1904
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 2: do you get?

1905
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, sorry, man, but we kind of have.

1906
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 5: An idea administrative leave, but your money goes to a pool.

1907
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 5: If you're innocent, you get your money. If you're guilty,

1908
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 5: the money goes to the victim.

1909
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: How about that?

1910
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 4: I like you, It's not a terrible idea.

1911
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 3: And then you know, look again, this is a conversation

1912
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: or or really an idea that should be hashed out

1913
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: by somebody smarter than me. But you know, there there

1914
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 3: is there is punishments that are levied against people in

1915
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 3: the court of law because of the mental anguish that

1916
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 3: they that they they they put on people as a

1917
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 3: result of their actions. Like and I mean this is

1918
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 3: beyond mental anguish for Trevor Bauer, for Matt Riza. I mean,

1919
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 3: you're you're affecting their ability to earn Matt Ries I

1920
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 3: know for sure didn't didn't hold a job, and I'm

1921
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 3: not sure if he could have while all the proceedings

1922
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 3: were were coming out in the revelation, probably not out.

1923
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 3: You know, Trevor Bower, he's a rich man, but I mean,

1924
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 3: and he owns his own company as a media company

1925
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 3: that that he worked. But I mean, how how how

1926
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 3: did this affect his viewership on on YouTube or you know,

1927
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 3: his ability to capitalize on his on his name, image

1928
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 3: and likeness during the proceedings. You know, I I don't

1929
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 3: know if it's possible, but because I would never want

1930
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 3: to discourage somebody who actually was a victim of a

1931
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 3: sexual assault crime from coming forward worried that there could

1932
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 3: be retribution against them if their case isn't strong enough

1933
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 3: to hold up in court.

1934
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 4: But it feels like there.

1935
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 3: Has to be something done because in a lot of ways,

1936
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 3: if if, if exactly what was determined by the prosecutors

1937
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 3: and is accurate, right, where's the retribution or the punishment

1938
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 3: for because this, this would not be victimless then, because

1939
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 3: if you want to flip it around, Matt Riza or

1940
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 3: or even Trevor Bauer to a greater or lesser extent,

1941
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 3: becomes a victim here.

1942
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: So they are a Matt and Trevor are victims in

1943
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 1: this scenario.

1944
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 4: And it's one hundred percent it's.

1945
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: One of these where the next actual victim, yes, will

1946
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: be discredited.

1947
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: Story Wow, remember the last time that you were That's

1948
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 2: the that's awful as visible stuff.

1949
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 5: Is really bad, not not to completely derail the convo,

1950
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 5: but I think the Bower stuff is like some of

1951
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:19,560
Speaker 5: the worst heinous stuff I've ever seen ever against him,

1952
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 5: like the the the like, the like, just the scheme

1953
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 5: that went involved, Like he showed the text messages of

1954
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 5: this girl and what she was gonna do like that

1955
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 5: is scary for any professional athlete with money, be careful.

1956
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: This happens a lot and it is a scary scenario.

1957
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 2: Well, we've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared

1958
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 2: Smith with us FSR betting analyst.

1959
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm Brian know coming up. We will uh, we'll do

1960
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: something a lot lighter here.

1961
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 2: You know, that was the conversation it needed to be

1962
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: to be had. This will be a lot more fun.

1963
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 2: Who needs a do over most? This week? The audio

1964
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 2: is absolutely top shelf. We will debate that around the corner.

1965
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1966
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1967
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 2: So I thought we'd have some fun with this. There

1968
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 2: were some comments made during the week and I'm wondering

1969
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 2: who needs a do over the most? If you were

1970
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 2: to say, okay, strike that from the record, just try

1971
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 2: it again, you know what I mean? So these are

1972
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: your four candidates. We will start with Anthony Wren doone

1973
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 2: Angels infielder who was talking about baseball not exactly being

1974
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 2: his top priority.

1975
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: Here you go, That's never been a top priority for me.

1976
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 4: This is a job. So I do this to make

1977
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 4: a living.

1978
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, just doing it, make a living, make

1979
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: ends meet, not a top priority. Okay, We've got Jay Williams.

1980
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: So this was last week on ESPN's College Game Day.

1981
01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 2: He was talking about Iowa sensation Caitlin Clark. Here's what

1982
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 2: Jay Williams said.

1983
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 3: I am unwilling and maybe it's more the the Kobe

1984
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 3: mentorship around me to say that she is great yet.

1985
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 1: Okay, not great yet, y Caitlin Clark.

1986
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 5: We all get better from here, Brian, because those two

1987
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 5: were pretty bad.

1988
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this is stiff competition.

1989
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 2: You can make an argument for any one of these

1990
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: four finalists here who needs to do over the most.

1991
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 1: There was Kenny Smith.

1992
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 2: This was during All Stars Saturday, the shootout between Steph

1993
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: Curry and Sabrina Unescu, the three point challenge. This is

1994
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 2: what Kenny Smith said right after Steph Curry won.

1995
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 1: Sprena Still Suprena there point line that the women.

1996
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 2: Shoot from should have shot from the three point line

1997
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 2: that women shoot from. It was mainly a muscle memory thing.

1998
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 2: He talked about it afterward, which makes sense, but he

1999
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 2: didn't say that after the competition, you know, so we

2000
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 2: were confused, just like Reggie Miller.

2001
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: And then there's this.

2002
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 2: This is a little compilation of Rick Patino crushing crushing

2003
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 2: his own Saint John's team after they lost a seat

2004
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: in the hall.

2005
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 13: We have so non athletic that we can't guard anybody

2006
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 13: without fouling. This has been the most unenjoyable experience I've

2007
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 13: had since I've been coaching. We just lack toughness. It's

2008
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 13: taken me a month to get them to throw bounce passes,

2009
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 13: actually two months to throw bounce passes.

2010
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 4: Do you have any second thoughts of taking this job?

2011
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 1: No, not at all.

2012
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,560
Speaker 13: It's not Saint John's.

2013
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 4: It's my team.

2014
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,719
Speaker 2: It's it's not Saint John's fault. It's just these hacks

2015
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to coach up over. So what do you

2016
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 2: guys think? You know, rich, We'll give you first, first crack.

2017
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: There's Anthony Rendon, Jay Williams, Kenny Smith or Rick Patino

2018
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 2: who needs a do over?

2019
01:40:58,560 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 4: The most.

2020
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 3: What it's crazy is the most defensible is Rendon because

2021
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 3: I think life balance is super important. And anybody who

2022
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 3: prioritizes their work over, for example, their family, you know,

2023
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 3: I mean it that that that can break up marriages,

2024
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 3: that could break up families that you know.

2025
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong.

2026
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 3: Work is a priority, but I don't think it should

2027
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 3: ever be the priority in your life. I think I

2028
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 3: think that will lead to a really unfulfilling life for

2029
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:29,719
Speaker 3: a lot of people.

2030
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 4: So maybe he could have couched it.

2031
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, with a little bit more of a pleasant delivery

2032
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 3: message to deliver.

2033
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly it was. It was.

2034
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 3: It was just delivered a little a little uh you know,

2035
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean instead of FedEx, you know, dropping it right

2036
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 3: on the doorstep.

2037
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 4: Maybe it was like punted over the fence.

2038
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 5: Post office was late to go to their pick it

2039
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 5: up and there and the guy made a face at you,

2040
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 5: and yeah, it was a disaster.

2041
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 3: I think the one who got it the most wrong

2042
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 3: was Jay Williams on on on Caitlin Clark, uh, not

2043
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 3: not ready to call her great.

2044
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 4: If if Caton Clark isn't great, I don't I don't really,

2045
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:11,759
Speaker 4: I don't really know the definition of that word.

2046
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 3: Then, like like she is as as good. Well, first

2047
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 3: of all, she's as good of a college a woman's

2048
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 3: college basketball players we've ever seen, maybe maybe our in

2049
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 3: the argument for one of the best college basketball either

2050
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 3: gender we've ever seen in terms of the designations at

2051
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 3: the at at the college basketball level. I mean, she

2052
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 3: is elite, she's sensational, she takes over games on a

2053
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:45,919
Speaker 3: night in, night out basis, and she's smashing.

2054
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 4: Records along the way.

2055
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, if if she isn't great, if you're not

2056
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 3: ready to call her great, I'd love to see, uh,

2057
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,759
Speaker 3: how high the bar is set inside of his mind,

2058
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 3: because I don't then I don't know what great looks like.

2059
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll go quick here. Kenny Smith.

2060
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 5: I give him a pass because it was like a

2061
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 5: weird situation and he was just kind of commenting, and

2062
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 5: you know, the crowd was going nuts behind him, and

2063
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 5: Reggie Miller's you know, in your face asking him questions.

2064
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 5: So I bet if he was able to do that

2065
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 5: over again, he would have explained it a little bit better.

2066
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 5: Rick Patino, I mean, this is just old man yelling

2067
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 5: at the clouds. Guys, he's seventy one years old. He's

2068
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,719
Speaker 5: he's fed up with, you know, going to the diner

2069
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 5: and and the waiter waitress getting his order wrong, and

2070
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 5: so he's gonna finally, you know, pull a Cairn and

2071
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 5: go talk to the manager like it that was. I

2072
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 5: give him, you know, a little bit of a pass

2073
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 5: because of just the scenario he's in. I do think

2074
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 5: the rendoon't stuff. I agree with his premise, but the

2075
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 5: delivery was absolutely terrible. The dude's made like two hundred

2076
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 5: million dollars in like a ten year career. Show a

2077
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 5: little bit of gratitude to what you've done and the sport, right, baseball,

2078
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 5: such a historic sport. Show a little bit more connection

2079
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 5: to your job because so many people that love you

2080
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 5: love the sport, and you're just like, I don't even

2081
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 5: care about that or them. I'm just here to hit

2082
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 5: my dingers and go home. It makes you look a

2083
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 5: little bit jaded. And I just don't think when you

2084
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 5: just got a two hundred and fifty million dollar contract

2085
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 5: from the Angels, which you haven't lived up to at all,

2086
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 5: it's just not the best look.

2087
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 4: I agree.

2088
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 5: I think the Jay Williams stuff is awful. I don't

2089
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 5: understand how you can watch Caitlyn Clark play basketball and

2090
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 5: not say she's great and basketball college basketball It is

2091
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 5: so much more difficult to win the national title because

2092
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 5: of the great teams get knocked out because of the

2093
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 5: march madness element. The best team sometimes don't even make

2094
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 5: it to the final four because you're one and done.

2095
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: So to not call a player great.

2096
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 5: Because the team hasn't accomplished a goal, I think is

2097
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 5: completely shortsighted. You are way only a sith deals in absolutes.

2098
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 5: There is no black and white with this scenario. You

2099
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 5: can be great and not win a title. You can

2100
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 5: also be bad and be on a team that wins

2101
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 5: a title and you're instrumental to that team winning a championship.

2102
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 5: Both of those things can be true, and someone is

2103
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 5: smart and connected to the game like Jay Williams to

2104
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 5: completely miss on that is mind boggling to me.

2105
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: The Rendon stuff is really interesting to me because anybody

2106
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 2: who's ever been in a relationship knows this.

2107
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 1: It's not just what you're saying, it's.

2108
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 2: How you say it, Yeah, and how you frame it

2109
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 2: like that matters a ton for Rendon to be like,

2110
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 2: baseball is not a top priority.

2111
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a job.

2112
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,600
Speaker 2: And he then went on to say, my faith in

2113
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 2: my family, that's those are my top priorities.

2114
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: Which is fair.

2115
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 2: I understand that if he frames it differently, if he says,

2116
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 2: as important as baseball is to me, my career is

2117
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 2: going to end one day, and so my focus has

2118
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 2: always been and always will be first and foremost on

2119
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 2: my faith and my family. Like, that's a different way

2120
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 2: to frame it. It's positively understandable. Yeah, that's right. So

2121
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 2: that part is really interesting. But look, I think of

2122
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 2: it like this, who will have it the toughest going

2123
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 2: forward based on what they said? You know, Rendon, I

2124
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 2: hate to say, but he's a baseball player, right, If

2125
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 2: he's an NFL player in saying this, it's gonna have

2126
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 2: more legs, right, It's it's just not gonna have the scene.

2127
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: Frankly, he never played, right, That's right. That's where it is.

2128
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 2: Beatino could have hurt him on the recruiting trails, sure

2129
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 2: it could.

2130
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: But look, man, it's a coach.

2131
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 2: This isn't the first time a coach has publicly blasted

2132
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 2: his team. I think that it doesn't carry as much

2133
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 2: weight going forward. Kenny Smith, it was clunky. I get

2134
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 2: his explanation. That doesn't have as many as much legs.

2135
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 2: I think the Jay Williams stuff. This is the problem totally.

2136
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 2: Once you start to gain a reputation, it's really hard

2137
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 2: to change it. And so Jay was so off base

2138
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 2: with Caitlin Clark. As great of a player as she is,

2139
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to get so many things right for

2140
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: people to start saying, Man, this Jay Williams is starting

2141
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 2: to crush it over here, you know what I mean?

2142
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,759
Speaker 1: Like that was just a rough, rough moment.

2143
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 2: And if you want to talk about a SoundBite having

2144
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 2: some legs, I can see that one being dusted off

2145
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 2: from time to time of Caitlin Clark's the number one

2146
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 2: overall big and crushing it in the WNBA, you know

2147
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 2: where we just revisit this.

2148
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Hey, aren't you the crazy guy you said she wasn't great. Well,

2149
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 1: she's gonna win like ten w NBA titles now. Yeah.

2150
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 5: And Jay Williams, they should make him do like a

2151
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 5: podcast together, Jay Williams and Caitlin Clark podcast, Please make

2152
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 5: It Happen.

2153
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 2: Or the Jamie Williams Chryl Swoops Podcast on Caitlin Clerk.

2154
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 4: We could do that too as well.

2155
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean think about it, like how often

2156
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 3: will Well like people will revisit the skip Johnny Manziel

2157
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 3: will be a bigger star in Cleveland than.

2158
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 2: Lebron, right, oh gosh, yeah, I mean those have been

2159
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 2: circulating a lot recently because Manzell's recent podcast visit with

2160
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp.

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01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 3: But I mean he also was the one saying to

2162
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 3: Merrill Hodge when Hodge accurately described Manzel as a late

2163
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 3: round draft draft grade on his board.

2164
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 4: He he, I mean, squarely told.

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Speaker 3: Him, this is your worst take metal of all time. Meanwhile,

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01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 3: he was he had no idea, but he was backing

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01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 3: into the worst take of his So.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's right, and that's what we could have here.

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01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 5: So yeah, the Jay Williams stuff is so interesting because

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01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 5: there's so many average players that have won championships on

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01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 5: great teams, and like does that make those players great

2172
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 5: by default? Like his argument logically makes no sense at all,

2173
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 5: Like Matthew Slater, the special teams guy and all those

2174
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 5: great Patriots. Seems like, is he the greatest player ever

2175
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 5: because he won how many championships on the you know,

2176
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 5: as like the the coattails of on the field for

2177
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 5: like eight plays during the game. Like, I just don't

2178
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 5: understand the logic with what he said.

2179
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 2: Well, what was interesting is I was watching the Kentucky

2180
01:48:56,200 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 2: LSU game and this was I forget what day it was,

2181
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 2: during the week, and Dave Pash is doing the game

2182
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 2: with Jay Williams, and they showed Angel Reese in the

2183
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 2: crowd and Dave goes, hey, Jay, is Angel Reese great?

2184
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 1: And Jay was like, oh man, look at you stirring

2185
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: the pot over here.

2186
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: And so they had this whole conversation about it, and

2187
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 2: this was a brief portion of it.

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01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 4: I guess what I'm.

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01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 3: Trying to with here, You're saying she's great, because it

2190
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 3: came off as if you're saying she wasn't.

2191
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 4: You're saying she's great.

2192
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 11: You're just started putting her in the Brady category of

2193
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 11: you've ever seen And I think that's fair.

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01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 2: So that's what he changed it to. He said, I said, yeah,

2195
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 2: I said she wasn't great. I meant she wasn't the greatest.

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01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 2: And but I don't know if that's a backtrack or

2197
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 2: not owning it, I'm not sure. I don't know, but

2198
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 2: I do know this. This is what's funny to me too.

2199
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,799
Speaker 2: What Jay said in that conversation with Dave Pash.

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01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 5: Lift, Yeah, people didn't hear words like in order to

2201
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 5: be in the pantheon or into the levels of immortality.

2202
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 2: That's my favorite part is it's your guy's fault. Okay,

2203
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 2: you didn't hear me when I said pantheon and all

2204
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:14,759
Speaker 2: these things.

2205
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 1: You guys just picked up on.

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01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 2: Great, it's like because you said it, because that's what

2207
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 2: you said.

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01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: Dude, like that you not great? Like I don't understand

2209
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: how we can misconstrue that.

2210
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 4: No, we can't.

2211
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we its Look, it's I get it from

2212
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 3: the standpoint. Everybody's put their foot in their mouth and

2213
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 3: who hasn't the best way to handle this is be like,

2214
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 3: you know what, I misspoke?

2215
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 4: I really honestly did.

2216
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 3: I got caught up in this, Yeah, I got caught

2217
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 3: up in the sentence I was constructing yep, and was Yeah.

2218
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 3: I was circling the airport. Didn't know exactly where I

2219
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 3: put put the plane down. And you know what, I

2220
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 3: chose freeway. I meant to choose runway.

2221
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:56,759
Speaker 4: I chose freeway.

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01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, grocery store. No one got hurt, you know my bad?

2223
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure, yeah, yeah, But still, I mean, when when

2224
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 4: you're when you're when you're throwing out the the the

2225
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 4: whatever you.

2226
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 3: Call it, the landing stairs in the in the produce section,

2227
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna have some upset passengers, and I totally understand that.

2228
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 4: So that one's on me, Caitlin, You're great.

2229
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 3: I apologize for ruffling feathers because it was not what

2230
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 3: I intended to say.

2231
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 4: And then it's the old people would have been they

2232
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 4: do that. Yeah.

2233
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's the thing about it, like if if

2234
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 5: you are so quick and I listen, we say a

2235
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 5: million words on shows. I do a gajillion shows a week.

2236
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 5: I say dumb things all the time. If someone ever

2237
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 5: walked up to me and was like, you said something

2238
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 5: on a show that was so dumb, and then I

2239
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 5: listened to it, I was like, yeah, that probably doesn't

2240
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:38,719
Speaker 5: make any sense.

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01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 4: I would likely if they came at me.

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01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 5: In not the Kevin Durant way where they were calling

2243
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 5: the explot is, but they actually like nicely approached me

2244
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 5: and said, you know what, I think you're wrong on

2245
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 5: this take and here's why.

2246
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: And if I did agree in.

2247
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 5: This case where it's like obvious that you're wrong, just

2248
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 5: be like, yep, yeah, you're right, I probably got that

2249
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 5: one wrong.

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01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get stuff from all the time. In this business.

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01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 5: It's the ability to overcome that wrongness and how you right?

2252
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 5: I say, I just said it an hour ago. I

2253
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 5: like to look at star athletes and coaches when they lose.

2254
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 5: What is their demeanor when they're losing, when they're getting

2255
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 5: something wrong? Do they still feel like they can overcome it?

2256
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 5: Or do they throw a hissy fin They're like, oh no,

2257
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:11,799
Speaker 5: it's really your problem.

2258
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 2: Well, I just think super fast and we'll get to

2259
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 2: Nick Cope is you'd be shocked. I'll roll like this.

2260
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 2: I don't expect people to be perfect, but I expect

2261
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: you to own it. If you get something wrong, that's it.

2262
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 2: You'd be shocked if you just come out and say,

2263
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 2: my bad, I screwed that up. There aren't as many

2264
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 2: people willing to just rub your nose in it, like

2265
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 2: that's right, you did get it wrong. They're just like, yeah, okay, cool,

2266
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: we've all made mistakes. When people think like that, you're

2267
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 2: better off just saying I screwed it up, man, instead

2268
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: of backtracking or shifting it into something it never was.

2269
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna shift things to Nick Cope right now, an

2270
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 2: upstanding citizen.

2271
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 4: Fine man, he's got the latest force. What's going on? Nick?

2272
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 9: Well, when I heard that audio between Dave Passion, Jay Williams.

2273
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 7: This was all I could think about.

2274
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 9: Back back Chris Berman in a home run derby, back

2275
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 9: back back back. My favorite, though, is Rick Patino saying

2276
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 9: all that, and then he walked it all back a

2277
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 9: couple of days later, saying, I wasn't ripping my players.

2278
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.

2279
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 4: How you call.

2280
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 2: He stood by it, but next day and then after

2281
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 2: a win, he was like, I talked to my wife.

2282
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 3: Seven maybe a bit much, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2283
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 4: I just I probably need some sleep. I was a

2284
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 4: little angry.

2285
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean that lives in Queen's give him some credit.

2286
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,799
Speaker 1: The weather sucks, traffic's terrible, and Cherry's miserable.

2287
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 4: It was.

2288
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 9: It was the definition of ripping your players. And he

2289
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 9: exactly said I did not rip my players. I just

2290
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 9: said they were unathletic and made this the most unenjoyable

2291
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 9: experience of my life.

2292
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just.

2293
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 9: I mean, that's why college basketball coaches are the best.

2294
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 9: I mean, more so even than college football. I think

2295
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 9: they are just an insane breath.

2296
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 1: It was the Rick body doubles like a robot version

2297
01:53:57,479 --> 01:53:59,799
Speaker 1: of Patino. He didn't really realize what he was saying.

2298
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 9: Oh, boy, we do have college basketball coming up here

2299
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 9: in about twenty minutes. Got some good matchups on hand today,

2300
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 9: including at the top of the hour he got number

2301
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 9: two Houston taking on number eleven Baylor. In the NFL,

2302
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 9: we've got the Bengals. They are placing the franchise tag

2303
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 9: on receiver T Higgins. According to NFL Media, the tag

2304
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 9: expected to be valued for receivers at twenty one point

2305
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 9: eight million this year and fully guaranteed. I just saw

2306
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,600
Speaker 9: some comments from Eagles receiver A. J.

2307
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 7: Brown. Some rumors that maybe he's unhappy with the.

2308
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 9: Situation in Philadelphia, but he says no, he's where he.

2309
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 4: Wants to be.

2310
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: Phil J.

2311
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 2: Brown is upsetting it that never happened, never here, stop stop.

2312
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 4: I can't believe this.

2313
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 9: I was I was thinking earlier when you guys talking

2314
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 9: about justin fields like this field doesn't realize he's not

2315
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 9: a receiver or a dB like he's got to stay

2316
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 9: in his lane, like he he can't be pulling this

2317
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 9: diva stuff like a receiver.

2318
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 7: All right, guys.

2319
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 9: In the NBA, the Warriors and Steve Kerr, they've agreed

2320
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 9: on a two year, thirty five million dollar extension and

2321
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 9: makes Kerr the highest paid coach in NBA history. Bucks

2322
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 9: beat the Timberwolves one twelve to one oh seven, Lakers

2323
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 9: over the Spurs one twenty three to one eighteen. Nikolay

2324
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 9: Jokich had a double or a triple double excuse me

2325
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 9: for the second straight night as Denver beat the Blazers

2326
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 9: one twenty seven to one twelve. Women's Gold Cup, the

2327
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 9: US women's national team defeated Argentina for nothing. They clinched

2328
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 9: a spot in the knockout stage. Guys, back to you,

2329
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 9: Thank you.

2330
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 4: Nick.

2331
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm so interested in tomorrow's Creighton Saint

2332
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 2: John's game because of everything that Rick Potito is saying

2333
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 2: about his team.

2334
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 9: Throughout the entire another long one. I think for Saint

2335
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 9: John's and Patino.

2336
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 2: It should be we might have to look to the

2337
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 2: a cover there by Creighton or the team total over.

2338
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 2: The line isn't out yet, but you know, we'll look

2339
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: forward to the lines that are out right now. Got

2340
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 2: some college hoops picks, maybe a little NBA, we'll throw

2341
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 2: them your way. Next, we've got Rich Orenberger, benceted All American,

2342
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR Betting at List, I'm Brian no a

2343
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 2: boatload of picks coming your way.

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01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 1: Next, it's Fox Sports Saturday. Here on Fox Sports Radio.

2345
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,

2346
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 2: shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

2347
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 2: If you missed anything on today's show, be sure to

2348
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,600
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2349
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2351
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:26,640
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2352
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 2: we get off the air. Props to the crew Bo Benson,

2353
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 2: our trusted producer Chris Purfett, technical producer Nick Cope doing

2354
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 2: a great job on the updates. Top the hour, up

2355
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 2: on game, LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman's out of Plexico Burists,

2356
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Speaker 2: don't go anywhere, keep it locked right here on Fox

2357
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. All right, we've got some picks to make.

2358
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 2: Let's do it rapid fire. All right, Rich, I'm sorry, Jared,

2359
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Let's start with you. I've already out of practice here,

2360
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, the Pixoska right.

2361
01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 1: Back into the mix.

2362
01:56:58,080 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 5: I checked in with Shamus, by the way, he likes

2363
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 5: Bama Today on the road, I'm actually on the other

2364
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 5: side of that one on Kentucky. So I won't give

2365
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 5: you that, but I'll give you the shame as special.

2366
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 5: He does like Bama on the road today as a dog,

2367
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 5: and the total in that game is in like one

2368
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 5: seventy five range. That's gonna be an insane tempo. That

2369
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 5: Kentucky Bama game should be one of the best games

2370
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 5: of the year. I'm not betting it for the show purposes,

2371
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 5: but I am on Kentucky for my own personal reasons.

2372
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 5: But let's give you the three official picks for the show.

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01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 5: I'm on the over one forty and a half. Yale

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Speaker 5: and Columbia Little IVY League action today.

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01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 1: Columbia is one of.

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01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 5: The best three pointing shooting teams in the country until

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01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 5: yesterday when they were brick City against Brown. I bet

2378
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 5: Columbia yesterday and lost, and I think they bounced back today.

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 5: Yale's also a really good shooting team. Didn't shoot it

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01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 5: that well at Cornell yesterday, so I think both teams

2381
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 5: positively regress. We'll go over one forty and a half

2382
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 5: in the IVY. I'll give you Iowa State Land seventeen

2383
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,879
Speaker 5: and a half. Today at Hilton they're facing West Virginia,

2384
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 5: who has not won a road game all year, and

2385
01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 5: I think Hilton and AM's like one of the toughest

2386
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 5: places to play. Iowa State bounced back after they lost

2387
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 5: to Houston earlier this week.

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01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 1: I think they put up a big number on the Mountaineers.

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01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 5: And we talked about coach Hurley walking off the court

2390
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 5: and Creighton. I think you con gets a big bounce

2391
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 5: back win today against Villanova.

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01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 1: I will lay eleven and a half points with the Huskies.

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01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, I love it. Okay.

2394
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 3: Mountwest highly competitive this year. A lot of teams I'm gonna.

2395
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 4: Be making the tournament.

2396
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 3: San Diego State is where I focus my gaze because

2397
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 3: they're coming off a rough loss against the Utah State

2398
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 3: Aggies for the lone claim of the Mountwest one seed

2399
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 3: for now. The Assex go to Fresno State. Now, this

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01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 3: team they beat up on earlier in this season. They're

2401
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 3: favored by thirteen points. I think they have a big

2402
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,760
Speaker 3: bounce back night after licking their wounds a little bit

2403
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 3: over the course of this week. They're back to back

2404
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 3: road games, but they need to get a big win

2405
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 3: on the road. I think they need a statement win

2406
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 3: on the road. I think it happens here. So I

2407
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 3: have Aztecs favored by thirteen and they have two NBA

2408
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 3: props from later tonight. Oh nice, I like this, Yeah,

2409
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 3: I like this. This game to be high scoring between

2410
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 3: Boston and New York. Jalen Brunson. His point total is

2411
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 3: at twenty eight and a half. Give me the over.

2412
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum on the other side, twenty six and a hook,

2413
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 3: give me the over all, Right, interesting stuff.

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01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna stick with college hoops because we only

2415
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: have three NBA games.

2416
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 2: I've got my eye on a few of these college

2417
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 2: hoops games. Give me Wake give me Wake Forest minus

2418
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 2: two and a half.

2419
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Take it on Duke.

2420
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 2: This has been a trend so top ten teams on

2421
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 2: the road against unranked teams. They've got a losing record

2422
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 2: outright this season. It's crazy. So I'll take the Demon

2423
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: Deakins minus the two and a half against the top

2424
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 2: ten Duke team.

2425
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: That line is staring at you.

2426
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 2: In the face saying this doesn't smell right, doesn't, Yeah,

2427
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't. There's a reason why it doesn't smell right.

2428
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Kansas State plus a point and a half.

2429
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 2: They're at home taking on BYU, and I'm gonna go

2430
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 2: Rock fight here Houston Baylor. I'm looking at the first half.

2431
01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 2: Give me under sixty three and a half. I think

2432
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 2: it gets off to a very very slow start.

2433
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 4: So there you go.

2434
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 2: Do you have any great ideas for our you know,

2435
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 2: non football season picks?

2436
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: We'll keep crack.

2437
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think rich has had enough mayonnaise for

2438
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:15,839
Speaker 5: one lifetime.

2439
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 4: This is a good segment. I like, maybe we should.

2440
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 4: Maybe next week we'll do.

2441
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 5: Instead of the reright. This week, we did the recap

2442
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:25,800
Speaker 5: during that seven o'clock hour. Maybe next week in that

2443
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 5: segment we can come up with a brainstorming idea, like

2444
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 5: we can do come up with our best two or

2445
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 5: three stipulations for the lose like that, and we can

2446
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 5: throw it around and see which one is the better.

2447
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 4: We'll win. Maybe we could put out a Twitter poll,

2448
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 4: gets social media and could be a fit.

2449
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 2: The first thing I thought of, and this is a

2450
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 2: horrible idea. We've done the Will Levice Mayo and the coffee.

2451
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 2: I thought about the Will Levis eating the banana.

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02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 1: Yes they yes, I like that. Put that on the

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02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 1: list good ones.

2454
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 4: Just a horrible thing. It gonna be me. It's gonna

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02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:58,160
Speaker 4: be a whole banana