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Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

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Speaker 2: So Michael darry Show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: Generals gathered in the masses just like witches at black Massive.

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Speaker 4: I have war anytime.

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Speaker 5: Anytime a person can pay two hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 5: dollars into a campaign and they've been given access for

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Speaker 5: access to the Department of Treasury of the United States

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Speaker 5: of America.

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Speaker 6: We are at war.

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Speaker 3: Yail, What absolute yail?

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Speaker 2: What shagon?

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Speaker 3: Y'all?

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Speaker 5: You will match their energy with unpersonly organizing, morbilogy, mobilizing, agitating.

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Speaker 5: We will see you in the courts, in Congress, in

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Speaker 5: the streets. Elon Musk is a Nazi.

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Speaker 1: Not ball baby God, y'all, we.

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Speaker 6: Are gonna be in your face.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna be on your asses if we.

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Speaker 6: Are gonna make sure.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make.

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Speaker 3: Sure you understand what democracy looks like.

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Speaker 6: This, ain't it. So let me tell you.

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Speaker 3: Something, mister Trump.

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Speaker 6: You gonna learn a few lessons from us, And I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna be the first one you and your little friend

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Speaker 6: off of Twitter, y'all about to find out.

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Speaker 4: Ray God, y'all, Oh yeah, he is a low down, thirty,

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Speaker 4: no good person along with Trump that cannot be trusted

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Speaker 4: and we must not be afraid of them again.

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Speaker 6: When the people fight, when the people fight, when the

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Speaker 6: people say that, you'd better see us, because we damn

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Speaker 6: short see you, walk in life.

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Speaker 1: Take it away, good God, y'all.

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Speaker 6: And the building behind me.

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Speaker 5: Elon Musk is seizing power from.

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Speaker 6: The American people. Elon Musk wants everyone in America to

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Speaker 6: be at the mercy.

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Speaker 3: Of Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: We are here to fight back, John.

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Speaker 5: You'll.

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Speaker 2: Last night in the six o'clock hour, for the entirety

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Speaker 2: of the six o'clock we spoke to Stuart Rhodes, who

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Speaker 2: is the founder of Oathkeepers, about what Oathkeepers is about

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Speaker 2: why he and one hundred Oathkeepers were at the Capitol

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Speaker 2: on January sixth, twenty twenty one, offering voluntary security for

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Speaker 2: various members of the Trump team. We talked about how

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Speaker 2: they ended up inside the Capital. We talked about the

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Speaker 2: year in between him being arrested. We talked about the

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Speaker 2: two years they dragged him by the way they arrested him,

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Speaker 2: threw him in jail, They didn't give him a bond,

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Speaker 2: He didn't get a pre trial opportunity to wait on

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Speaker 2: his court date. He sat in a cage. Do you

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Speaker 2: know that this is what we talk about every day.

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Speaker 2: A guy will walk up on his girlfriend, shooter, got

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Speaker 2: blood splatter all over him. They arrest him, bring him down,

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Speaker 2: book him, and the judge will will release him on

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Speaker 2: a PR bond. They get to go hold. They're back

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Speaker 2: out on the streets before the cop is because he's

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Speaker 2: year of solitary confinement. Solitary confinement. According to the Human

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Speaker 2: Rights Conventions International Convention, solitary confine confinement is in and

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Speaker 2: of itself, a form of cruelty. It's a legal term,

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Speaker 2: As all of our shows are from yesterday evening. We

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Speaker 2: are going to be talking to people who were political

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Speaker 2: John Lemmons, as he's known, is the owner of Anaconda

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Speaker 2: Jiu Jitsu in Galveston, and he was one of those

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Speaker 2: individuals who was pardoned by the way, Stuart Roades was

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Speaker 2: given an eighteen year sentence. Eighteen years so on January twentieth,

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Speaker 2: he has requested of full pardon. Big John Lammons of Galveston,

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Speaker 2: the owner of Anakon to Jiu Jitsu, was pardoned. He's sixty.

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Speaker 2: He is a Royce Gracie black belt, a father, and

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Speaker 2: Big John Lammons, did I get all that right?

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Speaker 3: You sure? Did?

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Speaker 5: You?

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Speaker 3: Spot On? Thank you, my I'm.

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Speaker 2: Honored to have you, sir, Well, thank you. Chad had

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with this, but Ramone and I decided

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Speaker 2: and our executive producer, Chad Nakanishi, and all proceeds going

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Speaker 2: to charity, by which I mean charity me and Ramon.

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Speaker 3: You know Chad Chad?

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Speaker 2: No, what's Chad Chad Knakanishi?

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Speaker 3: No, I've never met him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you're gonna meet him in the cage.

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Speaker 3: Big fellow, Okay, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Are you scared?

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Speaker 2: He's about what do you think Chad is five eleven?

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Speaker 2: But he's trained every day. He overtrains. We tell him,

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Speaker 2: he overtrains, We undertrain, he overtrains. He's had his shoulder

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Speaker 2: he fights every day in his body. He needs to quit.

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Speaker 2: This is what he's Brett far of that last year

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Speaker 3: Now, I still think his ear and his nose, I've

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Speaker 2: Well, he's a.

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Speaker 3: Good looking guy.

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Speaker 2: He's a very good looking guy. But I'm just I

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Speaker 3: You can be.

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Speaker 1: He's like that lip styles of the not so rich

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Speaker 2: Time, y'all don't have to email me that jiu jitsu

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Speaker 3: I love it?

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Speaker 2: The owner of Anaconda Jiu Jitsu in Galveston. Tell me

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Speaker 3: Michael, Just like everybody else, I watched everything go down

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Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, I'm here. I've tried to interrupt less by

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Speaker 2: big John Lemon's of Anakona Jiu Jitsu will with him come.

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Speaker 1: Out Baris Show.

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Speaker 2: Christopher writes, when I was serving overseas, that song kung

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Speaker 2: me back to that hot and sweaty time. Oh. The

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Speaker 2: other song was when Will I See You Again? Very

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Speaker 2: owner of Anaconda Jiu Jitsu. He is a Royce Gracie

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on nineteen. What's next to you?

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Speaker 2: I know, Big John, but I'm not a boi. You're

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm right across from the drunken monkey. I was

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Speaker 2: All I need that, That's all I need. I know

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Speaker 3: So we're in this other area. I was trying to think,

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Speaker 2: Talk, and so how big a boy are you? But

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Speaker 3: Hypeweight six six three two forty two fifty.

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Speaker 3: Pretty solid jiu jitsu for twenty nine years with toys

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Speaker 2: Big mits. I got the picture. I'm looking at a

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Speaker 2: So you've walked up on the scene and it's happening.

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Speaker 3: we'll get through this. Michael. The moment I said that

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, it was on. It was on. All

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Speaker 2: This whole Big John Lemmon's, owner of Anaconda Jiu Jitsu Galveston,

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Speaker 3: So I'm coming out, you know, after all this, I

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Speaker 3: I'm like, are you mad? He's like, no, no, all right,

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Speaker 3: the protest, just that fast, within within an hour or

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Speaker 3: two me being out of there, Michael, my Facebook photos

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00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 3: changed on its own. Uh. The only reason that I

437
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: didn't I wasn't arrested there and had it way easier.

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Speaker 3: I'm very thankful I had it easier was that I

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00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: had my own transportation that I drove up there. So

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Speaker 3: they were catching people at the motels and the airport,

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Speaker 3: and as I'm driving back to Texas is when I

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00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: find out that it's a pretty big fiasco.

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Speaker 2: When you say it's a pretty big fiasco, do you

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Speaker 2: mean that law enforcement is going to make something out

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Speaker 2: of this that it isn't or do you mean that

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Speaker 2: people were hurt and you weren't aware of it?

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't see anybody hurt, Michael. In fact, when

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00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: I got to the front inside when Ashley had been shot.

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00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: When I got to the front right there, when we

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00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: approached those law enforcement, he said stay back because a

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Speaker 3: girl has just been shot and killed in here. And

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Speaker 3: I didn't really believe him, or I was skeptical because

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear any shot. But it's very you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's very common a gunshot go off in

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Speaker 3: a room or house and you not hear it. So

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00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: he said that a girl has just been shot and

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Speaker 3: killed when we were at that little standoff right there.

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Speaker 2: All right, So when were you arrested?

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Speaker 3: So I came back. I drove back, and then you know,

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00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: of course course it's just headlines. So they came. They came,

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00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: They heard I was there, and came and talked to me.

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00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: They left, and I didn't hear anything from him again, Michael,

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00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: until one year. So one year later, the FBI calls

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Speaker 3: me up on the phone and it says, we have

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Speaker 3: to arrest you. Says, you don't want to know what

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Speaker 3: I think about this, but it's my job and I

467
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: have to come get you. So they arrest me, take

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Speaker 3: me to the Federal Detention Center here in Galveston on

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Speaker 3: twenty fifth, used to be the post office, and take

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Speaker 3: me upstairs and lock me up. Before we go in,

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Speaker 3: the FBI tells me that he's thoroughly disgusted with this,

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00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: and that off the record, you know, he gave me

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00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: a couple of pointers about what they were looking at.

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00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: They were looking at me saying hold your ground, which

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00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: would show that I was with the crew or again

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00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: know a group, and you know something else. I forget

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00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: what it was he said, but he was, you know,

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00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: he was remorseful for having to do this. So they

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00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: get me inside and then he turns me over to

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Speaker 3: the federal marshals. Two marshals take me upstairs, take the

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Speaker 3: handcuffs off of me, take me into their booking area.

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Speaker 3: Brand News. They've turned that into a jail up there now,

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00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 3: so there's like four seals on the top. Before they

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00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: put me in the cell, they start doing their paperwork

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00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: on the computer. So I'm standing there behind these two

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Speaker 3: federal marshals with no handcuffs, maybe a foot behind them,

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00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: two feet behind them, and they're typing all this stuff

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00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: in and they get to a point where they asked

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Speaker 3: me do you have any former martial arts training? And

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00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: I say yes, and they say what style? I say,

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00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: gracie jiu jitsu? Are you a do you have a

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00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: boat level? Yes, I'm a black dog. At that moment,

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Speaker 3: they stopped typing, turned around, handcuffed me, took me over

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Speaker 3: about twenty feet away, and put my face against the wall,

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Speaker 3: and then continued typing.

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Speaker 2: After you answered a question, they.

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: Asked, yes, okay, so they locked me up.

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Speaker 2: You know what this you know what this feels. This

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00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: feels so Keystone Cops. You remember at the diner when

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Speaker 2: Jackie Gleason in smoking the band goes in to get

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00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: a Diablo sandwich at a dr Pepper and Burt Reynolds

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00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: says and he says, I'm chasing these really bad guys.

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Speaker 2: And Burt Reynolds says, what are they bank robbers, and

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00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: he said bank robbers, bank robbers are a tich tud

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00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: compared to this guy. You remember that. And he's a fool.

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Speaker 2: Just this whole concept of how foolish he is, and

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Speaker 2: that's they're going to ask you a question and then

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Speaker 2: oh wait, we better get him locked up. Okay, I'm sorry,

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00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry overreaction. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing is when I bonded out, I bonded

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Speaker 3: out on them. I wasn't I didn't spend one dollar

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Speaker 3: on this. In fact, Hooyce paid my fine for me.

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00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: I didn't want him to, but he forked out five

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Speaker 3: hundred bucks and paid my fine. So I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to spend one penny on this. I'll just do the

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Speaker 3: time or whatever. I'm not spending the dollar. So I

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00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: bonded out on the government. Uh So they took the

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00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: cuffs off of me the same Marshalls took me down

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00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: the elevator. Now their demeanor has completely changed. As they're

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00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: taking me down the elevator, they're asking me what's the

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00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: difference between Gracie jiu jitsu and Brazilian jiu jitsu and

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Speaker 3: how long does it take? So I tell him, you know,

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Speaker 3: if everything works out, and I'd get a chance. Maybe

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00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: with community service, I could teach them some basic self defense.

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00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: So it was fun watching their demeanor change. Is they

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Speaker 3: you know now that I got the handcuffs off again

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Speaker 3: and I'm free.

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Speaker 2: Hold on just about Big John Lemons as our guest

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00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: anaconda jiu jitsu on the strand in Galveston. He's just

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00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: been arrested as a political prisoner of January sixth. Take

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Speaker 2: it up to the day January twentieth, twenty five when

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Speaker 2: President Trump pardoned all but I believe fourteen and commuted

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Speaker 2: the sentences of those