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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we're going with a title for the show. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: we have a title now, but.
Speaker 2: All right, it's old habit hard to break. Today's show
Speaker 2: is entitled I Ran I Ran So Far Away? Or
Speaker 2: Holman Sweet Holman.
Speaker 1: With us. They're both good. That's fantastic. So uh.
Speaker 2: Tom Holman's a guy that they sent Minneapolis to calm
Speaker 2: things down.
Speaker 1: How many people know that he?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: He's been doing immigration stuff since the eighties under different administrations,
Speaker 2: including under Barack Obama. He was given some presidential award
Speaker 2: or something like that for his effectiveness with deportation.
Speaker 1: Because Obama deported a lot of people the Deporter in chief.
Speaker 1: I remember that it was about right.
Speaker 2: Well, Holman was running the thing under Obama and got
Speaker 2: an award for it. I don't know how many people
Speaker 2: are aware of that. Anyway, we'll hear from him in
Speaker 2: a little bit. He's going to try to settle things down.
Speaker 2: But more importantly, he.
Speaker 1: Didn't throw on the Nazi coat, did he? What's that?
Speaker 2: Because you can't throw on the Nazi coat. Just leave
Speaker 2: the long coat in the closets, all right. It's a
Speaker 2: potent reminder of her unfortunate past. Okay, so are you
Speaker 2: ready for this?
Speaker 1: Sure? Through the winters, I send cold down, nigga. Let
Speaker 1: ever knew.
Speaker 2: I was listening to the new Springsteen song that just
Speaker 2: came out yesterday that he wrote about Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: A city of flame, fought fire and ice.
Speaker 4: Nathan occupiers bootsna like this lyric. King Trump's private army
Speaker 4: from the DHS, guns busking to their coats, came to
Speaker 4: Minneapolis to enforce their law, or so the story goes.
Speaker 1: Bo powerful stuff.
Speaker 2: Against smoke and rubber bullets, and the dawn's early light.
Speaker 2: Citizens stood for justice, their voices ringing through the night,
Speaker 2: and there were bloody footprints where mercy should have stood,
Speaker 2: and too dead left to die on snow filled streets.
Speaker 1: Alex Pretty and Rene Good. Oh that's a good rhyme.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I listened to the song on the way
Speaker 2: to work today. It's a really good sounding song, as
Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen is among the best crafters of songs who've
Speaker 2: ever walked to the planet Earth, and he's really really good
Speaker 2: at him. But the lyrics are to me like somebody
Speaker 2: jokingly wrote a man, Bruce Springsteen, you know parody. But
Speaker 2: you know what, aver I just find the whole thing
Speaker 2: now and out today. If you're not aware of this,
Speaker 2: new video came out late in the day yesterday of
Speaker 2: the poor dude that got shot last week getting in
Speaker 2: a melee with the officers and spitting on him and
Speaker 2: kicking their car and all kinds of stuff, kicked out
Speaker 2: their tail light. So the look of him has slightly
Speaker 2: changed in the last twenty four hours. Yeah, well, he
Speaker 2: was a militant, violent opposer of ICE in their activities.
Speaker 2: It's just worth noting. I was just reading something in
Speaker 2: the Dispatch which was which has become indistinguishable from MSNBC
Speaker 2: in some of their coverage talking about how he was
Speaker 2: just passively protesting the activities did trying to help.
Speaker 1: Ohways, it was shameless even without yesterday's video.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure when it was written, but yeah, it
Speaker 2: was well like I said it was indistinguishable from something
Speaker 2: he'd say in the New York Times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, then you always got the any of these
Speaker 2: shootings that are happened.
Speaker 1: You've got the.
Speaker 2: Legal question, which is very important, but you've got the
Speaker 2: political thing, which is also very important. Now it doesn't
Speaker 2: change the legality of things a whole lot, probably, But
Speaker 2: in terms of the politics, I think it changes it
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, you can't claim it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2: What kind of guy he was? If your news coverage
Speaker 2: was end to end with he was a boy scout
Speaker 2: who rescued puppies. Well you thought saying that meant something, Well,
Speaker 2: how about let's include he spit on cops and kicked
Speaker 2: cop cars and tried to get in the way of
Speaker 2: them doing their jobs.
Speaker 1: Ca'se that guy too.
Speaker 2: He is spoiling for a fight, and he brought a
Speaker 2: gun with him for the fight. Now was he intending
Speaker 2: to use it or or what was this in his mind?
Speaker 2: Nobody's quite sure. But yeah, please the whole you know,
Speaker 2: puppy rescuing, boy scout things, just it's it's propaganda.
Speaker 1: A little more here, oh boy, there's more here in
Speaker 1: a home they killed in room, didn't the winner of
Speaker 1: twenty six. We remember the names of those who died
Speaker 1: on the streets of Minneapolis. Here you go.
Speaker 2: And then at one point he incorporates the chanting into
Speaker 2: the course, which is actually pretty cool the way he
Speaker 2: does it, Ice go Home.
Speaker 1: The choir singing and everything.
Speaker 2: We need a response, Kid Rock, We're looking to you,
Speaker 2: Okay Rock, we need a counter song. Or although he's apologized,
Speaker 2: so maybe he's off this, Kanye Kanye could come home.
Speaker 2: Who knows. You gotta check day by day, Kanye.
Speaker 1: Kanye comes back. I don't know about Kid Rock versus Springsteen.
Speaker 2: I think Kanye is the one to fix this. He's
Speaker 2: the one to settle things down. Oh my good, Kanwe's house.
Speaker 2: Yesterday's wearing an SS uniform.
Speaker 1: You go today.
Speaker 2: He's apologizing and giving generously to Jewish schools and who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did an interview over the weekend.
Speaker 2: In addition to the apology, he put out Kanye West
Speaker 2: apologizing for the way he treated Jews in the black
Speaker 2: community and saying it's because it was bipolar and his
Speaker 2: car wreck and all this stuff. And it might be true,
Speaker 2: but he also has an album coming out like a.
Speaker 1: Week, So oh yeah, I don't put the timing on that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have a sequel to the Kyle Hitler song,
Speaker 1: does it. No, no, no, no, it's too late to edit that.
Speaker 2: Out or in a different direction, little Kanye kid rock
Speaker 2: collaboration would be interestingly like to see that he or
Speaker 2: that cross pollination. Absolutely fantastic. You know, I was thinking
Speaker 2: about the uh, Christy Nome situation. I've always thought that
Speaker 2: Washington d C. In the media makes way too big
Speaker 2: a deal out of firing people and like it's a
Speaker 2: huge you know oooh, you really got him, you made
Speaker 2: him fire somebody? What a setback for this or that?
Speaker 2: And they just doesn't. It doesn't land that way with
Speaker 2: the people. I don't think. I'll give you, for instance,
Speaker 2: Matt Gates being a point Attorney General and then the
Speaker 2: howls and everything. People went crazy and he pulled the name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we gotta win, we need to pull Who even remembers
Speaker 2: that happen? Who freaking cares? It doesn't make any difference whatsoever,
Speaker 2: really hurt Trump's momentum on Capitol Hill? Whatever, No, nobody
Speaker 2: remembers her cares. So if he if he pulled Christy
Speaker 2: Nome there'd be like one day of coverage acting like
Speaker 2: it's a huge deal. He'd put somebody else in and
Speaker 2: we'd move on. But I think that would be a
Speaker 2: good idea. Speaking for myself, I would prefer a non
Speaker 2: numbskull in the role because she's she is, she's utterly
Speaker 2: over her uh, over her head.
Speaker 1: She's in a position she can't handle.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if you're if you happen to
Speaker 2: be listening and wondering, uh talking about this again.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I think it's worth talking about
Speaker 1: is there.
Speaker 2: Is if things can't get calmed down, there's a chance
Speaker 2: for some crazy makes the history books blood letting one
Speaker 2: direction or another. I mean, it is just it's just
Speaker 2: ripe for that sort of thing. And I really don't
Speaker 2: want that to happen. And that's on my because I
Speaker 2: saw a video and then an interview with one of
Speaker 2: your He was either Ice or Border patrol outside the hotel.
Speaker 1: Some of them were staying in night before last, when that.
Speaker 2: Hotel had been attacked in they're breaking windows and fighting cops,
Speaker 2: are fighting Minneapolis Police Force cops, I mean beating them
Speaker 2: on the streets and trying to get into the hotel
Speaker 2: to get to the Ice agents and the Border patrol
Speaker 2: agents smashing out of the window, spray pinting, you know,
Speaker 2: gas bombs going off, and it's just it's just absolute chaos.
Speaker 2: And if they ever got in there, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: I mean, those guys are gonna have to defend themselves
Speaker 2: and it's gonna get really, really ugly. Anyway, this guy
Speaker 2: standing outside one of the hotels where there were not
Speaker 2: like any police force at the time. He's bloody, his
Speaker 2: face is bleeding, and he's talking.
Speaker 1: To reporters like, where the hell are.
Speaker 2: The police on this situation is people are trying to
Speaker 2: bust into the hotel.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nuts. It's a nuts situation.
Speaker 2: And so Holman gets sent there and his thing is
Speaker 2: help us out, help us go into the jail and
Speaker 2: get the bad guys, and then we won't need, you know,
Speaker 2: a giant team of cops to protect ourselves against the
Speaker 2: protesters to get in there. And all these incidents happen
Speaker 2: and everything like that, and then Fry, the mayor, makes
Speaker 2: an announcement late in the day yesterday, we are not
Speaker 2: going to help you.
Speaker 1: We will not help you in any way.
Speaker 2: Right, what the hell is that well on the other
Speaker 2: side of the scale too, which you touched on, and
Speaker 2: I've got to check like Andy nos twitter feed because
Speaker 2: nobody reports on this. The hardcore leftist organizations, your Antifa
Speaker 2: types and Marxists on their social media feeds, it's saying,
Speaker 2: come to Minneapolis Warriors, now is the time. Let's get
Speaker 2: this going right nation what Internationally they're trying to get
Speaker 2: people to go to Minneapolis and do things like smash
Speaker 2: up the hotels and punch the ice guys in the
Speaker 2: face and the rest of it. If you end up
Speaker 2: with a situation where they overwhelm the police at some
Speaker 2: time and people are people like that you're just talking about,
Speaker 2: are pouring into a hotel full of you know, border
Speaker 2: patrol agents or whatever who have their guns and they're
Speaker 2: probably and they got to defend themse it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a crazy situation. You know.
Speaker 1: People talk about.
Speaker 2: Norms in society, which is sometimes just as habits, and
Speaker 2: one of the most stupid norms in like all of
Speaker 2: human society, is that if you're more or less in
Speaker 2: favor of the protesters, you pretend that there are no
Speaker 2: organized bad guys agitators, and if you're against the protesters.
Speaker 2: And this extends, like to the regime in Iran. You
Speaker 2: claim it's all organized, you know, Martists or Jews, or
Speaker 2: Americans in the case of the Iranians, or whatever. And
Speaker 2: you know, it's just so tiring and stupid. And you
Speaker 2: would think there would be at least some segment of
Speaker 2: media and human beings in the middle who could say,
Speaker 2: as we've been saying, Look you got some nice, righteous
Speaker 2: people in Minneapolis who don't like this.
Speaker 1: They're whipped up.
Speaker 2: They're actually citizens, and you know just who don't like it, right,
Speaker 2: they're righteous protesters. I think they're wrong in a lot
Speaker 2: of cases, but there they are. And you have the
Speaker 2: hardcore Marxist crew. Why is it so difficult to recognize
Speaker 2: that both those things are true? I don't get it,
Speaker 2: because then it reminds me, in a way of the
Speaker 2: bums and junkies problem. I refuse to use the term
Speaker 2: homeless because their primary problem is not the lack of
Speaker 2: a fixed address that they're junkies. If you're in favor
Speaker 2: of a more compassionate approach, you never concede that it's
Speaker 2: mostly junkies, which means you can.
Speaker 1: Never solve the problem.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at one quote from Tom Holman, which we're
Speaker 2: about to hear because he's speaking as we went on
Speaker 2: the show today. Borders are Tom Holman Warren's left wing
Speaker 2: groups funding attacks on ice. Justice is coming. Oh boy.
Speaker 2: I don't know when the.
Speaker 1: Contacts do it, but good.
Speaker 2: You've got a militant, violent, organized Marxist groups breaking laws.
Speaker 1: They should be brought to justice.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's
Speaker 2: Joe Getty and how did it already get to be Thursday?
Speaker 2: The week is almost over January twenty nineth to year
Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth or Armstrong and getting we approved of
Speaker 2: this program. Okay, let's begin officially according to FCC rules
Speaker 2: and regulations while Bruce works on his song about Lake
Speaker 2: and Riley and all the other women raped and murdered
Speaker 2: by illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: Good one, here we go, at Mark.
Speaker 3: All we want is to talk to the person that
Speaker 3: local and state law enforcement authorities locked in the jail cell.
Speaker 3: They chose the lockedest person out. That's where we want
Speaker 3: to talk to the public safety track. So that argument
Speaker 3: is that protect victim, witness the crime, but it's it's
Speaker 3: a crap.
Speaker 1: It's crap.
Speaker 2: It's crap. I got most of that. Mister Holman is
Speaker 2: a fine fine law enforcement. Officially, he's got a bit
Speaker 2: of a speech impediment, I guess sometimes makes him slightly
Speaker 2: difficult to understand.
Speaker 1: Here's a little more Springsteen for you. Oh God, he
Speaker 1: won't relent.
Speaker 4: Their claim was self defense. Her just don't believe your eyes.
Speaker 1: It's her blood and bones and these whistles and phones
Speaker 1: against Miller and nomes, dirty lies, bo powerful stuff. Does
Speaker 1: he sing anything about her lip filler so much.
Speaker 4: Collagen swells her lips distracts me from her swinging.
Speaker 1: Hips or something. I don't know. It's on top of
Speaker 1: my head die.
Speaker 2: Shooting dogs and kicking cats.
Speaker 1: Christine Noman. I don't know he'd where it's at. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. The football coach never actually
Speaker 1: had a gun. Bruce, you're you're not helping.
Speaker 2: Uh, we got Katy's headlines on the way stay here.
Speaker 2: Was just ringing, reading and singing the lyrics to the
Speaker 2: new Bruce Springsteen Minneapolis protest song. Not everyone liked it.
Speaker 2: We got this text. Bruce string Cheese is the most
Speaker 2: overrated blowhard phony. At best, his music is predictable, knowing
Speaker 2: and pretentious. What a whiny douchewad poser. That's not a
Speaker 2: good review.
Speaker 1: What did he called? It was a two word review?
Speaker 3: Geese?
Speaker 1: What was the first name?
Speaker 2: Bruce bruised string che bruised Bruce bruised spring.
Speaker 1: How it was like the old spinal tap thing. It
Speaker 1: was a two word review. Hey, let's figure out who's reporting?
Speaker 1: What is sleet? Start with Kitty Green. We're almost not
Speaker 1: a time before we begin.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, the Big Networks ABC new video appears
Speaker 5: to show Alex Preddy clashing with agents eleven days before
Speaker 5: the fatal shooting. NBC orders are Tom Holman speaks in Minneapolis,
Speaker 5: MIT's immigration operations could be improved, and The New York
Speaker 5: Times Freddie shooting after math leaves Homeland Security Department in turmoil.
Speaker 2: Like many bad things, there are a number of reasons
Speaker 2: why they happened, and looking merely at one side or
Speaker 2: the other, it's probably not a good way to approach it.
Speaker 5: From Reuters, Trump warns, I ran to make nuclear deal
Speaker 5: or next attack.
Speaker 1: Will be far worse.
Speaker 2: They've got quite the battery of missiles, more than I'd
Speaker 2: been led to believe.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later now, Okay, you know, we
Speaker 1: should talk to Mike Leines about this. She'll maybe we
Speaker 1: have love that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: From the Wall Street Journal, Dow to cut forty five
Speaker 5: hundred employees in AI overhaul.
Speaker 1: Who is the dow A, Dow Chemical, John Industrial, Dow
Speaker 1: Johnes Industrial. Oh sorry, okay, okay, h New York Post.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course, you get used to it. It's
Speaker 1: part of live.
Speaker 2: Everybody poops, like the classic book says.
Speaker 5: And finally, the Babylon B foul smelling substance used in
Speaker 5: spray attack on elon Omar identified as Somali food.
Speaker 2: So it turned out to be apple vinegar water site, Okay, something.
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing to put in a syringe and
Speaker 2: squirt on a congress person and then spend like fifteen
Speaker 2: years in prison.
Speaker 1: For I would agree.
Speaker 2: And yet, what's a normal thing to squirt onto the
Speaker 2: plows of a congresswoman. Well, you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: anybody to get hurt, but I would think you're trying
Speaker 2: to hurt them or something. I don't know, what are
Speaker 2: you trying to do? Now you're going into prison, I
Speaker 2: don't know what did you accomplish.
Speaker 1: The are you weirdo?
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6: The US military is fortifying its position in case of
Speaker 6: a potential strike on Iran. The USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier
Speaker 6: Strike Group is now in the Indian Ocean. President Trump
Speaker 6: has threatened military action over to Iran's crackdown on anti
Speaker 6: government protesters.
Speaker 1: Rights groups support.
Speaker 6: At least fifty five hundred have been killed, with an
Speaker 6: additional seventeen thousand deaths still being reviewed. Allies are urging
Speaker 6: the US not to strike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you mentioned the other day, this might actually
Speaker 2: be the biggest murdering of protests protesters in history or
Speaker 2: modern history certainly could be, Yeah, surpassing Tianman Square significantly.
Speaker 2: As the blazing guns were sent to many many cities
Speaker 2: in Iran and mowed people down, although I don't know
Speaker 2: how much that has to do with the fact that
Speaker 2: we've got the aircraft carrier headed there, and Trump has
Speaker 2: warned that time is running out for Iran to negotiate
Speaker 2: a deal in its nuclear program or face.
Speaker 1: An attack by the United States.
Speaker 2: In response, Iran said they've got their fingers on the trigger.
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal reporting that despite June's twelve day war,
Speaker 2: where Israel pounded the hell out of Iran, Tran has
Speaker 2: an estimated two thousand mid range ballistic missiles left that
Speaker 2: can reach across the region and to strike as far
Speaker 2: as Israel. I did not know that any attack by
Speaker 2: the United States could quickly escalate, despite President Trump's preference
Speaker 2: for decisive use of force that does turn into a
Speaker 2: regional conflict. As I said yesterday, taking on the United
Speaker 2: States is a bad idea in a war for anybody,
Speaker 2: especially you know, smaller country like Iran. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: if you think the jig is up like this is,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get overthrown. I'm going to die in the
Speaker 2: street anyway, might as well take your shot and hope
Speaker 2: you can get them Gusta back down.
Speaker 1: Right right.
Speaker 2: And you know, even if you win a game fifteen
Speaker 2: to two, if those numbers indicate lives lost, it's a
Speaker 2: terrible cost. And during the June tussle with Israel, eighty
Speaker 2: six percent of the Iranian ballistic missiles were intercepted. Keeping
Speaker 2: in mind, as Jack mentioned, they've got a couple of
Speaker 2: thousand of them, but twenty eight people were killed. And
Speaker 2: then in June Israel neutralized about seventy percent of the
Speaker 2: missile launchers, leaving only like a hundred, but they definitely
Speaker 2: have potential to hurt and kill a number of people.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, I appreciate the fact that the
Speaker 2: Trump administration and Marco Ruvio, who I think is underrated,
Speaker 2: is not continuing the Biden Obama will just let you
Speaker 2: pretend to negotiate and run us around interminably till the
Speaker 2: end until you have nukes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you having a message for the Uranian leadership? Don't.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so seconding to hear. It makes
Speaker 1: my skin crawl.
Speaker 2: Mister Trump, and a message yesterday explicitly compared the build
Speaker 2: up of forces near Iran to what he built up
Speaker 2: near Venezuela late last year, just ahead of the operation
Speaker 2: that sees Maduro. Trump gave no specifics about the deal
Speaker 2: he was demanding on nuclear weapons, saying that only that
Speaker 2: a massive armada was headed toward Iran and the country
Speaker 2: should make a deal. But the United States and European
Speaker 2: are now now I'm reading from the New York Times
Speaker 2: of David Sangers reporting, But the United States and European
Speaker 2: officials say that in talks they have put three demands
Speaker 2: in front of the Uranians. A permanent end to all
Speaker 2: Richmond of uranium and disposal of its current stockpiles, limits
Speaker 2: on the range in number of ballistic missiles, and an
Speaker 2: end to all support for proxy groups in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: including hamas, HESBLA and the Houthis.
Speaker 1: That last one is the heck of a thing.
Speaker 2: That would be an old dog learning some seriously new tricks, yeah,
Speaker 2: or becoming a completely different thing and be like an
Speaker 2: old dog becoming a cat. But I thought this was
Speaker 2: an interesting paragraph, and it's true from David Sanger. Notably
Speaker 2: absent from the demands and any of the truth social
Speaker 2: posts and everything, any reference to the protesters, which is
Speaker 2: in theory what started this whole thing, with Trump promising
Speaker 2: in past social media posts to come to their aid.
Speaker 2: But he hasn't mentioned the protesters now in several weeks,
Speaker 2: and certainly didn't mention him yesterday with all the you know,
Speaker 2: you need to do this, you need to do that,
Speaker 2: he didn't say anything about protesters. Right, Certainly, the humanitarian
Speaker 2: horror at the murder of all those people, and multiples
Speaker 2: of the numbers we threw out earlier are in jail,
Speaker 2: being beaten, tortured, starved, whatever, who knows, and more will
Speaker 2: be hunted down. So on a humanitarian level, it's absolutely awful.
Speaker 2: But the significance of the protesters geopolitically was that they
Speaker 2: indicated there was sufficient energy to overthrow the regime, but
Speaker 2: they needed a little help, which we weren't in.
Speaker 1: A position to give in.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that necessarily would have been successful,
Speaker 2: just that was the significance of the protests. So now
Speaker 2: that the protests have been killed out, killed away, and
Speaker 2: jailed away, would the strike that might have tipped the
Speaker 2: scales weeks ago do any damn good at this point?
Speaker 1: This is interesting.
Speaker 2: So an official who was deeply involved in the interchanges
Speaker 2: told The New York Times that this guy Argatchi, he's
Speaker 2: the foreign minister that we're dealing with is pretty heavily
Speaker 2: constrained because in the complicated Iranian system, there's constant jockeying
Speaker 2: between the Supreme Leader's office, the Revolutionary Guard, which is
Speaker 2: its own power center, the office of the President, which
Speaker 2: is a weird thing there. It's always been a mystery
Speaker 2: and u and you know, and then all the decisions
Speaker 2: and theory have to be made by the Supreme Leader
Speaker 2: Iatola Kameyne, who's eighty six years.
Speaker 1: Old by the way, man needs to gain it on
Speaker 1: Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: So you could have a situation where the Iatola is thinking, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe now's the time to back off the whole nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons thing, and the Revolutionary Guard is saying, no, we're
Speaker 2: not doing that, or vice versa.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, iron watchers will tell you and have three years.
Speaker 2: Nobody's really sure exactly how it works inside their halls
Speaker 2: of power, and it's quite possible they don't know or
Speaker 2: it changes. Yeah, it's not it's not a consistent thing.
Speaker 2: It's a who seems to upper have they upper hand
Speaker 2: this week. Yeah, it's good. This history is weird, you know.
Speaker 2: And I love, I love. That'd be a great title
Speaker 2: for like a super big selling book about history.
Speaker 1: History is weird.
Speaker 2: But if you're kind of like a drive by get
Speaker 2: the headlines person on history, you hear like all these
Speaker 2: really big things, but there's often like a couple of
Speaker 2: lead up things that are super fascinating that get left out,
Speaker 2: And like you could see this unfolding where we go
Speaker 2: to war with Iran, they still have the ability to
Speaker 2: fight back there. I mean, it's a full it's a
Speaker 2: pretty serious war for a week, two weeks, whatever, and
Speaker 2: history will forget that. We're all emboldened by what happened
Speaker 2: in Venezuela a couple of weeks ago. It just went
Speaker 2: so smoothly and so easily that it made us think, wow,
Speaker 2: we can do anything, and.
Speaker 1: Then we got ourselves into this.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear somebody really really learned talk
Speaker 2: about the way power works in Venezuela and how it
Speaker 2: works in Iran, and what it might look like if
Speaker 2: you did the same thing in Iran. You yanked the
Speaker 2: iotola out by his beard, as you've suggested, maybe you
Speaker 2: bring the IRC to its knees, you humble them completely,
Speaker 2: and then you go with the what appears to be
Speaker 2: the very strange current plan of Venezuela, it don't make
Speaker 2: me do it again policy, and just that could be
Speaker 2: in dicks and so now they've come to heal at
Speaker 2: least to some extent. But it's the same people in charge.
Speaker 2: So I can that work again somewhere? Is it going
Speaker 2: to work in Venezuela long term?
Speaker 1: Who knows?
Speaker 2: But if it turned into a hot war and they
Speaker 2: get some missiles off at some of our bases and
Speaker 2: you end up with a dozen ms or yeah, but
Speaker 2: we end up with a dozen twenty eighty you know,
Speaker 2: soldiers killed. I wonder how the country's going to react
Speaker 2: to that. I think the reaction might be, what the
Speaker 2: hell are we doing of fighting Iran? Because people haven't
Speaker 2: been paying attention to the lead up, right, And well,
Speaker 2: even if you are paying attention to the lead up, though,
Speaker 2: I would like to know exactly what we're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 1: Well, it'd be nice if they said it out loud.
Speaker 2: I think are our main enemy for the last half century,
Speaker 2: who's killed more American service members than any other entity
Speaker 2: on the planet, is at its weakest point, and here's
Speaker 2: a chance to take it out. But we haven't said
Speaker 2: we haven't said that out loud to prevent many more
Speaker 2: deaths in the future. It would be the rationale. But
Speaker 2: I would like to hear the rationale, and it needs
Speaker 2: to be since you were talking about the politics of
Speaker 2: it and American support, it would need to be clearly enunciated.
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Speaker 2: could end up being the dominant story for quite a
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Speaker 1: We might talk to Michael Lions either today tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Good an idea of what their military capability actually is
Speaker 2: there in Iran.
Speaker 1: It's a big country, ninety million people.
Speaker 2: They've been involved the military stuff for a long time
Speaker 2: on a regular basis, so it's not like they're not
Speaker 2: used to.
Speaker 1: Fighting, right.
Speaker 2: So coming up, I'm really excited about mailbag. We have
Speaker 2: a couple of insightful, knowledgeable emails about the Frankus in Minneapolis,
Speaker 2: specifically the shooting of the nurse fella Alex Pretty and
Speaker 2: that whole freak is really good stuff.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Look forward to getting into that. And if you haven't
Speaker 2: heard the latest the latest video that came out from
Speaker 2: the gentle peaceful protester and what he was doing a
Speaker 2: week ago, that's pretty interesting. If you haven't been on
Speaker 2: top of that, we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: Stay here. Seahawks currently about.
Speaker 2: Five point favorites four and a half point favorites in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. That's what the betting line is currently.
Speaker 2: Have I mentioned it's all about the matchups? I think
Speaker 2: I did work that in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's your freedom loving quote of the day.
Speaker 2: Continuing our series from Ben Franklin, the last two today
Speaker 2: and tomorrow will be about aging, both terrific. This one
Speaker 2: is really interesting. He's talking about the idea of social
Speaker 2: programs for older people, pension programs in effect, and he said,
Speaker 2: I fear the giving mankind. A dependence on anything for
Speaker 2: support in age or sickness, besides industry and frugality during
Speaker 2: youth and health, tends to flatter our natural indolence, to
Speaker 2: encourage idleness and prodigality, and thereby to promote and increase poverty, the.
Speaker 1: Very evil it was intended to cure.
Speaker 2: The founding fathers understood human nature in a way that
Speaker 2: we ignore well, right, their highest priority was understanding human
Speaker 2: nature and being. Really, if you set up a welfare
Speaker 2: state for the old, some people are going to live
Speaker 2: their lives and not the best way.
Speaker 1: Counting on that.
Speaker 2: Well right as opposed to Look, if I'm going to
Speaker 2: have a decent old age, I need to be frugal
Speaker 2: and I need to work hard. And everybody knows that
Speaker 2: there are no exceptions. Everybody knows that every day of
Speaker 2: their lives, or you flatter their natural laziness and encourage
Speaker 2: you know, wild spending and well laziness. Well done, Ben,
Speaker 2: Well done. Mailbag prov's note Mailbag at Armstrong Yetdy dot com.
Speaker 2: Often I will lead up to the featured emails, but
Speaker 2: I want to make sure there's time for them. So
Speaker 2: here we go on the topic of the unfortunate shooting
Speaker 2: of mister Pretty in Minneapolis. Two emails of note this
Speaker 2: from Drew the Millennial. Regarding the shooting in Minneapolis, people
Speaker 2: seem to struggle with two concepts, what should happen and
Speaker 2: what will happen? Also what you can and what you should?
Speaker 2: Can you take a concealed handgun to a federal agent
Speaker 2: operation legally?
Speaker 1: Yes? Should you inject yourself into that situation? While armed.
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 2: You're not interacting with a piece of paper that has
Speaker 2: a law written on it. You're confronting a fallible human
Speaker 2: being just as capable of making mistakes as you are.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter if the law says it can
Speaker 2: or cannot happen. The law is only as reliable as
Speaker 2: the people enforcing it. So should that man have been shot,
Speaker 2: probably not. Will you get shot if you do what
Speaker 2: he did, pretty good chance. Yeah, You're putting your lives
Speaker 2: in the hands of other flawed human beings.
Speaker 1: Avoid that when you can.
Speaker 2: You know what drew the Ben Franklin, you know, great
Speaker 2: great grandson.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I've said that sort of thing to my kid, ending
Speaker 2: with that sort of statement, avoid.
Speaker 1: That if you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed. And then this terrific note from U Will
Speaker 2: from Sacto. Guys, your coverage of the shooting the man
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis with firearms seems misguided in some ways. I
Speaker 2: agree one hundred percent that you should be able to
Speaker 2: protest while armed, you know, And we've gone over this.
Speaker 2: It's just one of the difficulties of not listening to
Speaker 2: every minute of the show is we can't take on
Speaker 2: every single angle of every single story, every single time
Speaker 2: it comes out, And what is.
Speaker 1: Your excuse for not listening to every minute of the show?
Speaker 2: Exactly my point? Yeah, yeah, what were you doing that
Speaker 2: was more important?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 2: Back to Willex CD, who can blame it? Was that
Speaker 2: the new Bruce saw? All right, more on that to come,
Speaker 2: But he writes carrying a firearm carries special responsibilities. I
Speaker 2: have three times pulled a legally carried firearm on people.
Speaker 2: Once I saved a woman who was getting beaten to death.
Speaker 2: Once I saved my ex wife ninety pounds from a
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty pound man and tried to attack her. Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred and fifty pounds five force. She may
Speaker 2: have died if I didn't have a firearm. I've been
Speaker 2: pulled over three times by local police or the HP
Speaker 2: while legally carrying I have served as a twelve be
Speaker 2: combat engineer for eight years, and I have extensive training
Speaker 2: and understanding of how to act when you have a firearm.
Speaker 2: In each of these cases, once law enforcement made contact
Speaker 2: with me, I placed my firearms. Spit around first, you
Speaker 2: spit on the cop, kicked out the tail lights and
Speaker 2: tried to fight them. No, when law enforcement made contact
Speaker 2: with me, I placed my firearm on the ground, got
Speaker 2: on my knees, and placed my hands on my head
Speaker 2: to signal to the police that I'm disarmed and I'm
Speaker 2: not a threat because getting shot ain't on my BINGO
Speaker 2: card if I was ever armed, and law enforcement tried
Speaker 2: to arrest me, even if I was innocent, last thing
Speaker 2: I'm doing is resisting arrest. This man had a firearm,
Speaker 2: actively got in the face of officers in their legal duties,
Speaker 2: and then when detained, fought them to the point it
Speaker 2: took like six cops to subdue him. Your legal right
Speaker 2: to carry a weapon goes out the window when you
Speaker 2: start fighting cops or otherwise commit a crime. There will
Speaker 2: be no tears or sympathy from me. You don't fight cops,
Speaker 2: You accept your arrest and you fight it in front
Speaker 2: of the judge with a lawyer. Even unarmed. Fighting cops
Speaker 2: is something you do when your IQ is below freezing.
Speaker 2: And believe me, I cannot stand government or police abuses.
Speaker 2: All this, plus the fact that these officers are routinely attacked,
Speaker 2: are you taking chances when it's your life and your
Speaker 2: ability to be a father to your kids when it's
Speaker 2: in a situation where agitators are attacking you, you can't
Speaker 2: hear anything because of their whistles. You're subduing an aggressive
Speaker 2: male who is armed and is reaching for his holster.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's when you're fighting somebody, it's hard to interpret
Speaker 2: what arm motion is doing what. But and then you
Speaker 2: hear a shot go off me, I'm turning that man
Speaker 2: into Swiss cheese and like three seconds and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: even feel a moment of regret or sorrow for doing so.
Speaker 2: I'm coming home to my family after my deployment that
Speaker 2: I go on to make my country safe for the
Speaker 2: arm man who gets in my face can enjoy the
Speaker 2: rest of time six feet under.
Speaker 1: That's some cold stuff. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you probably would feel regret.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I probably should. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you absolutely should.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it illustrates the many steps
Speaker 2: down the road of this is really really stupid.
Speaker 1: This guy took.
Speaker 2: Well, now that we've seen the video that came out
Speaker 2: yesterday and we can talk more about that later, but
Speaker 2: spitting on cops, kicking the car, I mean, you were
Speaker 2: not a peaceful protester. You were an active interventionist, aggressive,
Speaker 2: you know, a part of the whole melee.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And on a different topic, I love this from JT
Speaker 2: and Livermore. We mentioned that the Democratic Socialists of America
Speaker 2: are actively pursuing ties with the Chinese Communist Party to
Speaker 2: promote anti imperialism against the US.
Speaker 1: JT.
Speaker 2: Rights, Wait, what the Democratic Socialists are working with China
Speaker 2: and agenda based on anti imperialism against the US?
Speaker 1: WTF?
Speaker 2: China the country that's flexing its imperialist ambitions against Taiwan,
Speaker 2: the Philippines, and Japan, the country making and militarizing islands
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Ocean. The country is supporting Russian it's
Speaker 2: imperialistic attack and takeover of Ukraine. How stupid are these people? Well,
Speaker 2: they are stupid, JT. But they're also friends of convenience
Speaker 2: in the way that revolutionaries always have been. We need
Speaker 2: to bring down the power. You want to bring down
Speaker 2: the power, Hey, we want to bring down the power.
Speaker 2: You know, we're going to have to fight it out
Speaker 2: amongst ourselves when the revolution's over, but we both know that,
Speaker 2: and it's just the way it goes. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And the Mayor of New York belongs to that party,
Speaker 2: building active ties to Chinese communists. What are the best
Speaker 2: exercises to keep your old age the way you would
Speaker 2: like to be the last years of your life. New
Speaker 2: York Times is an interesting article. Maybe we'll get to
Speaker 2: that a little bit later. Something that's not controversial or
Speaker 2: frightening or depressing. If you missed a segment of the
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