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Speaker 1: Shooters. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday. It's Monday, which means joining us today is

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Speaker 1: our long lost friend. We've not spoken in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's been a vacation for our mates. But he is back.

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Speaker 1: The one, the only Garrett Vogel.

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Speaker 2: The Summer of Garrett is officially over Robshooter. I am

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Speaker 2: back in action. I'm all yours until you kick me

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Speaker 2: out of here. I thought you were going to change

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Speaker 2: the locks and the password on the zoom room, but no,

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Speaker 2: here we are.

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Speaker 1: How are you you're going nowhere? Hey, I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: had a hot girl summer. I'm glad you had a

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Speaker 1: hot boys summer. You were out there dancing and singing

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Speaker 1: seeing shows.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I have a question, is is things

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Speaker 2: okay in the home front? Because I saw that Bruce

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Speaker 2: looks like he picked up another job.

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Speaker 1: He was furious working. Are you thank you for asking Bruce.

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Speaker 1: My husband is a songwriter, a playwriter. He has a

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Speaker 1: show coming to Broadway called Harmony, and it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of work. They started rehearsals last week. They opened the

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Speaker 1: box office. I shoved him in the box office window

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Speaker 1: with his collaborator Barry Mandelo. They sold tickets and then

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Speaker 1: they started rehearsals. It was wild. They had like a

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Speaker 1: line around the box office. People don't go to box

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Speaker 1: offices anymore. They buy them on ticket Masters, So we

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Speaker 1: wanted to recreate this like old school feel. And so

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Speaker 1: the two of them were in the box office. I

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Speaker 1: think they signed like the first hundred tickets, maybe more.

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Speaker 1: They didn't leave until the line was done, which was

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Speaker 1: an awfully kind thing for them to do. But it

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Speaker 1: was really exciting. And then on Saturday, I was lucky

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Speaker 1: enough to sneak into rehearsals. So everything isn't just okay, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: It's flipping fabulous at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you a little little hint about buying

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Speaker 2: tickets at the box office. If you come to New

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Speaker 2: York or go to any Broadway show, you save. I

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Speaker 2: love the extra charger, all those charges, you know, the

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Speaker 2: the forty five dollars tissue fee, you know like that

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Speaker 2: you get online, Like the sixty five processing fee to print.

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Speaker 1: A digital ticket.

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Speaker 2: My mom has. Every time we get Broadway tickets from

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Speaker 2: my mother and she goes to the box office, she

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Speaker 2: drives into the city, she buys just say she probably

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Speaker 2: she probably loses the money on the calls and she

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Speaker 2: breaks even at the end of the day. But but

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Speaker 2: still it's the it's the idea of that.

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Speaker 1: It's a good tip. Go to the box office. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to pay those fees. Okay, let's jump into

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Speaker 1: a show. What time is it? My friend's tea time? Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a serious story. At the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: so me, Lacunas and Astro and Kutcher are now saying

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Speaker 1: they support victims following the backlash over their letters supporting

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Speaker 1: Danny Masterson. Let me explain. So Ashton and Mila, they

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Speaker 1: wrote several letters asking for leniency in the Danny Masterson sentencing. Now,

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Speaker 1: let me remind you what that is. Masterson was sentenced

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Speaker 1: to thirty years in prison after being convicted for two

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Speaker 1: counts of rape. They starred alongside him in the seventies show.

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Speaker 1: So they sent letters to the judge, to the court

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Speaker 1: letters have come out and these two are really in

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Speaker 1: a firestorm. This is now a convicted rapist that it

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Speaker 1: looks like they were supporting. They said, quote, we are

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Speaker 1: aware of the pain that has been caused by the

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Speaker 1: character letters that we wrote on behalf of Danny. We

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Speaker 1: support victims. We have done this historically through our work

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Speaker 1: and will continue to do it in the future. Now

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Speaker 1: you know things are bad, Garrett when they have to

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Speaker 2: That immediately, not like a week, It was immediately. And

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Speaker 2: it's interesting because then the stories start coming out too,

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Speaker 2: of people going, I don't know, though, he might be

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Speaker 2: a good guy for the past thirty years, but what

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Speaker 2: And I mean even Lea Remi was chiming in, going, well,

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Speaker 2: it looks like scientology can't help him out here here.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, we hear about these underlying stories like

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Speaker 2: the clip of Conan O'Brien from a few thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he seemed to know there was a secret, he said,

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Speaker 1: one day, you'll be caught. Christina Ricci too, She put

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Speaker 1: out a statement on social media really slamming Ashton and Miela,

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Speaker 1: saying that sometimes we can love people who do horrible things.

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Speaker 1: It's very complicated. It opens up this whole discussion, doesn't

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Speaker 1: it that just because somebody's nice to me does not

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Speaker 1: Like now, I think it's quite an easy jump to

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Speaker 1: Ashton believe somebody who committed two rapes should get a

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Speaker 1: like they want it both ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they wanted it. And the other interesting

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Speaker 2: Tolf it looks like Taufer is coming out on the

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Speaker 1: For me, want part of that? Yeah, it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Careful who your friends are, Be careful who you hang

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Speaker 1: out with. It does say a lot about you. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to take the emphasis of him here. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to take it off. This awful this this danny,

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Speaker 1: this monstrous person. But Miela and Ashton did it to

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Speaker 1: themselves by sending these letters. Legally, they didn't have to

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Speaker 1: send them, they wanted to send them. It's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of another example of this, and

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Speaker 1: I remember when Katie Kuric found out about Matt Lauer

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Speaker 1: point that out. Katie said she didn't know this Matt,

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Speaker 2: also he's our friend, you know, and we're gonna we're

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Speaker 2: And then to see them support this, you're like, what

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Speaker 2: that's what you get. There's no right answer, and there's

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Speaker 2: no yet Like it's weird.

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Speaker 1: It's weird, isn't it. That's what I'm talking about it

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Speaker 1: here on the Naughty but Nice Show. We're friends here,

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Speaker 1: we can we can do this. But it brings us

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Speaker 1: to our whole question of the day. I want to

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Speaker 1: know what you think about this. Amela and Ashton say

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Speaker 1: that they do support victims following the backlash over their

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Speaker 1: letters supporting Do you think they want it both ways?

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Speaker 1: Do they want it both ways? That's a tough question. Hey,

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your results. Another tough story, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: What are you working on? All? Right?

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Speaker 2: So we all know Joe Jonas, Sophie Turner, the back

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Speaker 2: and forth up until last week of are they married?

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Speaker 2: They're not married? Well, they are getting a divorce unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: And it turns out that all these other stories are

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Speaker 2: coming out now of like a Nickelodeon alum, Alexa Nicholas

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Speaker 2: said that Joe Jonas, she was on Zoe one on one,

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Speaker 2: by the way, with Britney Spears's sister back in the

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Speaker 2: day that when they were teenagers, Joe Jonas asked for

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Speaker 2: nudes on Twitter or X I met Joe Jonas when

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Speaker 2: we were teens. Let's just say he's the guy who

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Speaker 2: who wore a purity ring but asked for nudes. Here's

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Speaker 2: my feelings towards that. I get that it could have happened,

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Speaker 2: but why why now? Why not that up then in

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Speaker 2: the midst of a divorce. You know, he's not getting

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Speaker 2: divorced over these these pictures or the claims. It's just

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Speaker 2: it feels like bad timing on that one. But Joejonas,

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Speaker 2: even on over the weekend, him and the Brothers were

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Speaker 2: out in Dodger Stadium and Joejonas kind of addressed all

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Speaker 2: the rumors that are out there pretty much just said,

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Speaker 2: if you don't hear it from my mouth, don't believe it,

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Speaker 2: which you could take it anyway you want, but at

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Speaker 2: least he kind of addressed it because there are some

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Speaker 2: crazy rumors coming from both sides of the Sophie Turner

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Speaker 2: Joe Jonas divorce, of ring cameras and drinking, and so

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Speaker 2: Jojonas kind of addressing it, which you really don't see really.

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Speaker 2: Everybody just normally stays quiet and let their quote unquote

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Speaker 2: friends and closest sis talks with them, right.

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Speaker 1: Talk to people like me. I sort of agree with

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Speaker 1: you here. However, Joe didn't tell us anything. Telling us

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Speaker 1: only to believe what he say is right is something

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Speaker 1: that I'm not totally buying here. He's not the messiah

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Speaker 1: like Joe. Just because you don't say it that mean

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Speaker 1: it's not true. Like Joe didn't really tell us about

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Speaker 1: the divorce reporting did. Joe didn't tell us about these

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Speaker 1: nude pictures. The lady in the Nickelodeon show did. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of really good reporting out here. I

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Speaker 1: think what's going on there when you talk about timing,

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Speaker 1: is that when they broke up, it felt to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, maybe even Alexa, that Joe's team, Let's

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Speaker 1: not say Joe, let's say his team. His friends were

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Speaker 1: pushing this narrative that Sophie was a terrible mother. He

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Speaker 1: even had some paparazzi pictures taken of him and the

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Speaker 1: kids in La being all perfect together. They looked very

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Speaker 1: stage to me. And then we hear about a doorbell. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people who can know about that.

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Speaker 1: It feels now like her team are saying, if you

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Speaker 1: want to play this nasty game, we'll fight back. I've

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Speaker 1: been through this. I went through it with Jessica and

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Speaker 1: Nick when I was Jessica's publicist. Jessica played rough. Jessica

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Speaker 1: played rough. I went through it with j Lo and

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Speaker 1: Ben Affleck. Jennifer doesn't lie down either. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying too much here. But what I am telling you

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Speaker 1: is that when these divorces happen, you have a choice,

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Speaker 1: and you have this in your private life. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to be a celebrity to agree here. Do you

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Speaker 1: want this to be decent, and do you want this

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Speaker 1: to be amicable or do you want to play dirty

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Speaker 1: and your feelings are hurt. You're probably upset, you want

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Speaker 1: to slap somebody. You want to throw a punch, not

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Speaker 1: a pinch. And that's a horrible spiral that I think

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Speaker 1: these both of them are going down.

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Speaker 2: If it's any anything amicable, you would think at least

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Speaker 2: in some form of way. Yes, they put out the

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Well, let's talk about Marilyn

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Speaker 2: So her Brentwood home out in LA was granted a

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Speaker 1: Why they're gonna knock down Marilyn Monroe's house?

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Speaker 2: What like you you would like but but you know what,

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