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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hello, call It crew, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 3: Call It What It Is?

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Speaker 1: Oh Hello, and thank goodness for these for these episodes,

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Speaker 1: because it means I get to see you, because you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't face him all the time.

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Speaker 2: Usually we just call each other. So you called me

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Speaker 2: earlier today and.

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Speaker 1: It made me laugh because most people would like wait

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Speaker 1: for someone to say hello before they started talking.

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Speaker 4: We don't.

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Speaker 3: You know. What's so funny is we often don't even

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Speaker 3: say goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, no, we don't usually say goodbye

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Speaker 1: either hellos and goodbyes.

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, someone's walking in and as the phone

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Speaker 3: goes down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so what are we talking about today?

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Speaker 3: We're talking about triggers. Are triggers your triggers? Not avoiding them,

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Speaker 3: loving them, even engaging with them.

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Speaker 4: Or avoiding them?

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Speaker 1: Yes, because people have different adaptations or coping mechanisms for

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Speaker 1: their triggers.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think we start by just saying the definition of

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Speaker 3: the trigger, because I earlier today was like this, is

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Speaker 3: my trigger, and this is my trigger, and this is

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Speaker 3: my trigger. And then I read the definition, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: those are not triggers.

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Speaker 2: Those are just things.

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Speaker 3: Are really fucking errorg amy.

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Speaker 2: You are not alone. You are not alone.

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Speaker 1: And actually, part of the reason I felt that this

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Speaker 1: was a good thing to talk about is.

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Speaker 2: I think it's no one's fault.

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Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of people walking around

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Speaker 1: the world saying that, you know, there are triggers when

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Speaker 1: it's just something annoying. Yeah, that's just that's that's let's

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Speaker 1: give let's give a trigger. It's fair day in court,

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Speaker 1: and let's get something annoying. It's fair day in court.

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Speaker 3: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So definition of.

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Speaker 1: A trigger anything person, plays thinger, situation causing intense emotional distress,

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Speaker 1: bringing up past trauma, or a challenging experience.

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Speaker 2: Trigger is kind of deep.

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Speaker 4: It is really deep.

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Speaker 3: I have some like really deep triggers that I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: be so honest. It's it's it's the morning for me

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Speaker 3: and I just don't feel like being on the floor talking.

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Speaker 2: Should we shelve this topic? Do we need to turn it?

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Speaker 4: No, it's something to shell. It is certain triggers.

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Speaker 3: I don't need like I would be having an emergency

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Speaker 3: therapy sort of situation after the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Then I have a feeling that in the in your

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Speaker 1: trigger uh dealing with style, you might be Oh, I

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Speaker 1: guess that's the question in what's your style for dealing

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Speaker 1: with a trigger? Are you a little bit like team

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Speaker 1: avoid or you team.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm feeling a trigger, I'm diving in.

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Speaker 4: Oh, there's no dive in.

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Speaker 3: You're in a Okay, great, No, I dive out. I

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Speaker 3: definitely dive out.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you. I will tell you.

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Speaker 4: When I've dived in. Okay.

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Speaker 3: My very first boyfriend, who I've talked about on the show,

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Speaker 3: I'm still friends with him. He was like my high

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Speaker 3: school sweetheart. We did this stupid thing of like pick

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Speaker 3: our song was don't Stop Believing by Journey. There is

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Speaker 3: think if you were in a ca if you guys are,

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Speaker 3: you're like, what is our song gonna be? Please pick

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Speaker 3: something that you're not gonna hear regularly. So if it

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Speaker 3: After the breakup, I heard that song everywhere I went,

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Speaker 3: and it literally I did dive in. I was like

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Speaker 3: And then I was like, that was a dive in,

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, what about you? I feel like

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Speaker 4: You a team avoid team dive in.

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Speaker 1: I would love to say I'm a team dive in,

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Speaker 1: but no, I think I've gotten better at diving in.

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Speaker 2: I've gotten I've gotten better at trying to.

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Speaker 2: You get better at.

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Speaker 1: Doing the hard like you you know that it's something

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Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's a connection that would be

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Speaker 2: You gotta be ready to get a little, a little dirty.

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Speaker 2: You gotta tussle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be ready to rumble on some level, right,

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Speaker 1: Like you gotta go at it. And I think that

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Speaker 1: cope is uh is is like a little bit finding nemo,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a lot of people though.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of us are avoids because like,

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Speaker 3: pick up my kids drown in thirty minutes, do you

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Speaker 4: Like I can't.

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Speaker 3: There's not a I don't want to. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to deal with that, which is not good. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's necessarily good to not just sometimes sit with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: And how many times have you been have you have

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Speaker 1: you like pushed something aside because you didn't have time

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Speaker 3: No, I've I've talked about this in therapy because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was a positive thing.

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Speaker 3: Is that not? Apparently not really.

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Speaker 1: I literally said it like two weeks ago, like it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so did I.

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Speaker 3: I was like boasting about it in therapy, and she

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Speaker 1: Hold on, but seriously, you're not allowed to like have

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put you over here for a second.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but the problem with me, like I'll tell you.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that like I was dealing with

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Speaker 3: that with it was grief over my mom.

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Speaker 4: I had like boxed that up.

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Speaker 3: That's a deep one, right. So the box just like

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Speaker 4: And then you did have to die.

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Speaker 3: And then I have I've done a deep dive in

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Speaker 3: I had a lot of conversation. I know this is

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Speaker 3: I had a lot of conversations about like why why

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Speaker 3: get a release from it, but I really did not.

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Speaker 3: You do, but it's you're wading through the water, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And also that when you face it, which I guess

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Speaker 1: you were team dive in, you kind of prove to

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Speaker 2: Like if I actually dove in, I die.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've said these kinds of things in therapy before,

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Speaker 1: of that thing, Like I would just die. I know,

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Speaker 2: Pain of it might just take me down.

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Speaker 3: I think that's so real. I think that's something that

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Speaker 3: so many people listening will relate to because that's the

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Speaker 3: way you described is exactly how I felt. I felt

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Speaker 3: like I'm just gonna drown. Yeah, what's the fucking point

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Speaker 1: Because I think that's the other thing that's it's talked about,

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Speaker 1: to stay engaged with something, you have to be hopeful

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Speaker 1: that it will get better. But when you feel hopeless,

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Speaker 1: not You're not in that lack of in the vacuum

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. Okay, So, uh, do you have times where

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Speaker 1: you will find yourself overreacting to something that someone said

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Speaker 1: or did and then you actually realized later that it

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Speaker 1: actually had nothing to do with them, but it was

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Speaker 1: about something that that was that person, place, thing or

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Speaker 1: situation that recalls this like intense emotional distress.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it probably happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: Dayly. Is there something that, like for you can think

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Speaker 3: of right now.

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Speaker 1: Because you're too many examples you like before, what happened

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Speaker 1: this morning? Oh, I think I find it, So tell

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Speaker 1: me if this happens.

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Speaker 2: To you anyone.

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Speaker 1: I find when I'm trying to do it all, which

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Speaker 1: of course we all know, is like there's no virtue

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Speaker 2: That's just so ridiculous. You can't do it all. But

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Speaker 2: when you're when I'm on the hamster wheel, like when

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: Is I am triggered by it.

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Speaker 3: But I think that maybe in this moment, I'm taking

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Speaker 1: There's so much about that, and I mean, I really

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Speaker 4: I have a question for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I am good at that.

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Speaker 2: I was always very yes. Number one, of course you

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Speaker 2: I get defensive of her, like if people, oh not often,

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Speaker 1: You know that are kind of flippant or like say

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Speaker 2: You don't talk about her like that.

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Speaker 4: Watched the episode.

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Speaker 3: One of the things we have here is what's the

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Speaker 4: Yes, because here's here.

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Speaker 3: I was, Okay, so I was dropping one of my

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Speaker 3: I was like, when we go to a restaurant, you

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Speaker 4: And then he was like, oh, you know why I

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Speaker 3: You know why because I like a spot that's away

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I like, I.

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Speaker 3: Literally can't even watch, Like I have to just like

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Speaker 4: You know when people are like, take a deep breath.

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Speaker 2: And then I like that.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I compartmentalize. My body knows it's being reversed because

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Speaker 1: I imagine you sitting like a yogi with your your

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Speaker 4: I'm just forced to move backwards in a reverse.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I completely identify with this. This happens

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Speaker 2: I love walking.

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Speaker 3: I walk.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to walk.

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Speaker 1: Like when people are and when I'm you know, going anywhere,

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Speaker 2: You want to walk?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, walk, walk, But when I'm in my

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Speaker 2: One pole position spot in a parking lot.

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Speaker 3: I call that princess parking. You want the princess parking spot.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want. But it's not about walking. So

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Speaker 2: what's it about?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel when there's one person in front

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And you know what, when I was younger.

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Speaker 1: I have said before and I will say again that

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Speaker 2: I do a lot, and I will truly say to myself, like,

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Speaker 2: You weren't here. You were here.

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Speaker 3: But that's honestly, that's what I'm doing. I'm Matt Reversus

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's okay, you'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's almost done.

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Speaker 2: By the time you get out of the car.

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Speaker 3: You're mad at him, for sure. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: I do think the word gets thrown around too much.

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Speaker 4: Way way more than it really should.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have a question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is like I want to say, it's

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Speaker 1: keeps on giving. I don't know that it's going to

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Speaker 1: be over. I think we get I think it's still

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be on.

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Speaker 1: Well, both you and I have said that we have

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Speaker 4: Concert, Jessica, that that is not going away.

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Speaker 3: That has legs because more information keeps coming out, and

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Speaker 3: are we so obsessed because of the audacity?

446
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: Uh huh?

447
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: Like you really think, like if you're gonna cheat on me,

448
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 3: be in like the corner of like a shady bar,

449
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 3: and like be trying to hide it if you're in

450
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, clearly a good section of the Cold

451
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 3: Play concert, right, Like, first off, I'm pissed off because

452
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: you have good seats right right, and you're like like that,

453
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: oh huggy, huggy and smiling and listening to no not

454
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: on my watch, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

455
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: And I also think in the world climate of misbehavior,

456
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many people who seem to be

457
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: getting away with stuff. Yeah right, Like there's just so

458
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: many things and so many different areas of life where

459
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: it's like people.

460
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: Do things in like okay, like they just get away

461
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: with it.

462
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: Or like the public court of public opinion doesn't even

463
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: like up they're not even upset, or they move on

464
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, and everyone comes up with their ideas or

465
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: reasons why that is.

466
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: But you know, who knows.

467
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: But for some reason, this couple seems to have gotten

468
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: a vast majority or at least the very vocal majority

469
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: to be.

470
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: Like, no, you don't get away with this.

471
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: You are going to be held accountable and you did

472
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: this and this is not okay, and they're just.

473
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 2: Rolling with it.

474
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 4: Do you know what.

475
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: I have a theory on it, though, because I don't

476
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 3: think it's just two people cheating. I think it's the

477
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: fact and maybe I'm wrong because I just made this

478
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 3: up in my head. I think it's the fact that

479
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: she's hr for a company that she he's a CEO,

480
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: and people are like, and that's corporate America.

481
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, that's.

482
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: Exactly what it is in a Cold Play concert, hug.

483
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 3: And I think that is what for some people is

484
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: really triggering. And you can use the word like it

485
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: just like it's it's more than just like your potentially

486
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: having an affair. Yeah, I do feel I have to say, though,

487
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: I did see a picture of the lady and she

488
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: has young kids, and.

489
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: I felt just the woman in the head of ahs

490
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: and it just made me she's married too.

491
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that the whole story.

492
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: She is married too.

493
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh, they're both married.

494
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: They're both married, and she has kids that are like young,

495
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: and it just made me like just the whole, like

496
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: public scrutiny of it is intense. But I think that CEO,

497
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: CEO and HR part of it.

498
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: Is I'm a part of the story.

499
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was making it stick.

500
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

501
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be me if I didn't bring up

502
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: this part, which is like, and I think it's kind

503
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: of fascinating. It's like, listen, people cheat, right, Like this

504
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: is not this is this is completely not a new thing.

505
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: And sometimes we're willing to just be like, yeah, oh

506
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: they cheated and it was no big deal. But I

507
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: think that's what I'm trying to say, is like this,

508
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: for some reason is just like people really really really

509
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not without I know this, maybe this is provocative.

510
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm not without empathy. I mean, I agree it's audacious.

511
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: The two things can be true. It's audacious and it's hurtful.

512
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: And you and I both said being cheated on is

513
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: the worst I think personally, like triggering part, although this

514
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: didn't trigger me, is how public. I think that's what

515
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: it is if you, if you weren't just feeling your

516
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: own personal pain, like someone just cheated on me, Like

517
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: my personal pain of being cheated on was small, and

518
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: my own personal pain, and I was the only one

519
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: that was, you know, living with it, and if it

520
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: was with the whole world, I think it would just

521
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: be so horrible. But that's where I say, on the

522
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: other side of the coin, I have this empathy for

523
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: the people who did it too, because I'm like, ugh,

524
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: your audacity and you're this, this terrible thing that you've

525
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: done is now going to hurt so many people that

526
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: you love, and there's no doubt, there's no way that

527
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: you're escaping that you're going to have to live.

528
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: So publicly with the fact that you made.

529
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: This terrible choice and now in perpetuity you will have

530
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: been the Coldplay cheaters.

531
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

532
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's terrible. Like everyone loses.

533
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, there's there's no nobody's

534
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: winning in that situation. I think that I think when

535
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: something's up for public consumption like that, people are one

536
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: hundred percent projecting, right, because I'm like the audacity.

537
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: If anybody everyone, you know, it's like you.

538
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: Can't help but do that, and then you're so frustrating,

539
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: you're so angry, and I honestly I hope for everyone

540
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: involved it probably does go away and it doesn't have

541
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: lights and it will right, like it's a news cycle.

542
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: I think that people were just so shocked at shocked

543
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: at like, well, I shocked at the way they got

544
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: caught to be honest.

545
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it does seem like a complete one in

546
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: a million. I also think I'm gonna throw in there.

547
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: I think people are I see on on on all

548
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: the socials. I think people are also very taken aback

549
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: by their interest in it. I am I'm I'm taken

550
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: aback by why I care. I'm taken aback why I've

551
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: asked one more follow up question.

552
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: I think it's because of the CEO HR thing I do.

553
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: I think if they were just like in the here's

554
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: the thing that I said to somebody, I said, you know,

555
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: what is the truth. And I don't know why I

556
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: care about this part because it's like a mood point.

557
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: But like if they had honestly just like waved at

558
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: the camera, I'm not a ducked I don't even think

559
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: it would have gotten any traction.

560
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: But they full on.

561
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: The guy hit the floor, he almost knocked himself out.

562
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 4: It was so obvious in two.

563
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Seconds that they were yes. And then Chris Martin's I mean, well,

564
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: but that's what set it all up.

565
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: Right, he's like either a camera shy or something like that.

566
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: Oh I'm having an affair. Yeah, what kind of psychic

567
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 2: powers did he have? Oh? I agree with you though.

568
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: If they just carried on like every other kiss cam

569
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: and like whatever, I think that for sure, no doubt,

570
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: no way, no how someone was going to see them

571
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: and be like was that so and so that I

572
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: saw on the And I mean.

573
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: Listen, they were caught. They were caught, no matter how.

574
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: Yes, but if you just done like a wave, if

575
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: you just don't a wave, you could have played it

576
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: off like sorry, we were just like kind of dancing clothes,

577
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry about that.

578
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: The fact that you literally what.

579
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Do you think you would have done?

580
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: The wife?

581
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Or if I'd been in that situation? No, Like I

582
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: mean in I'm met cold, it's not my thing. But

583
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: like me and you were having an affair and where

584
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: your arms wrapped.

585
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: Around me, I had my arms wrapped around you.

586
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: I don't think I would have thought to wave with you.

587
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: I think I would have hit the floor.

588
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: No, you would have been turning.

589
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: Oh I would have been the one. Why am I turning?

590
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: I would have hit the floor. No, I think we

591
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: both would have hit the floor. You just not have

592
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: seen us anymore.

593
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: We are disappearing.

594
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: See, this is why people are talking about it.

595
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: It's it just doesn't stop.

596
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't well, this is why we can't have an

597
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: affair together, just because we will.

598
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: Get caught by the way.

599
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, I know we're on the topic

600
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: of triggers, but I just affairs sound terrible.

601
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: That I can't the worst.

602
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: Why would you spose to keep that up?

603
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: Also, I can't, like I'm not a good liar, Like

604
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: I can't even do a surprise like the guilt I

605
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: would feel over anything, like I'm buy not a birthday gift.

606
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: And I tell him as I'm walking through the door

607
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: what it is. I cannot keep anything seeker.

608
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is a shoe, do you know what

609
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: I mean?

610
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: He's like, just one, just one, I got your shoe.

611
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: Talk about compartmentalizing, YEA, how you can come home and

612
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 3: like be with your family and know that you're doing that.

613
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't understand it.

614
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: But you know what, you just just going back to

615
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: what we said before.

616
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: You never know what people are coming from or going to,

617
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: and it definitely, as I understand it.

618
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: It takes two to tango, and you.

619
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: Know there's always more than you know and think. So

620
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: I am I do have to say not to gloss

621
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: over it. I wish everyone in the scenario. I hope

622
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: that the news cycle stops, and I wish them grace

623
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: and healing.

624
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to be just horrible.

625
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: The duck and roll.

626
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: I think that was what gave people permission to laugh

627
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: at it. It was the duck and roll. The duck

628
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: and roll was funny. It was never not gone.

629
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: A casual wave. They would have moved on.

630
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: The duck and roll was terrible.

631
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: There's the duck and roll, the army crawl out and

632
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: like it was just not that we're giving tips to now.

633
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: I feel like we're like giving you, like this is

634
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: how you do it better.

635
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: Next time you're cheating on the kiss, gam don need

636
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: to gull what it is with the tips.

637
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: Don't do it.

638
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: We got okay, then we're ending there, We're ending there,

639
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: we're ending there.

640
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god. All right, well let's call it your

641
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: first let's call it the end of the episode.