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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: Gerald McCoy NFL Network analyst and six time Pro bowler,

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Speaker 2: third overall pick and twenty ten out of Oklahoma. You

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Speaker 2: can see him all season long NFL Game Day morning

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Speaker 2: Sundays at nine am Eastern on NFL Network. Great to

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Speaker 2: see you again. What advice would you give Jackson Dart

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Speaker 2: with his style of play?

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Speaker 3: First off, Good morning, Hey doing it Dandy? I always

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Speaker 3: love coming back. First off, Good morning. Secondly, man, b

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Speaker 3: there's a fine line between Charla, make a play and

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Speaker 3: dangerous play. You are pay to deliver the ball with

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Speaker 3: your arm. That's what you're paid to do. Everything outside

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Speaker 3: of that is extra. Okay. He has to start to

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Speaker 3: understand when is the time to run and how to run.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's telling him not to run because we've seen running

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks before, but there's a way to do it. There's

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Speaker 3: a reason that some running quarterbacks don't get hurt, don't

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Speaker 3: get hit the way it gets hit. He wants to

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Speaker 3: get as much as he can out of this run

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Speaker 3: instead of taking what they're giving you. When you see

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield doing the extra or whatever, trying to get

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Speaker 3: the extra yard is necessary at the time. Other than that,

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Speaker 3: you see Lamar JACKSONI he make his move, he make

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Speaker 3: you miss. He get out of bounds when he get down.

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Speaker 3: You see Jalen Hurts, he get his yards whatever he

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Speaker 3: get down. Michael Vick, he run, run, he get down.

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Speaker 3: Cam Newton went through this, and Cam Newton he's six

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Speaker 3: six to sixty and he was taking these hits and

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Speaker 3: even Cam start to understand, forget all that I'm getting

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Speaker 3: down or I'm getting out of bounds. If he wants

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Speaker 3: to have a long career, which he should have because

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Speaker 3: he's extremely talented, he has to understand. Man, there's times

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Speaker 3: when you have to go the extra a mound and

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Speaker 3: then there's times where you need to just get what

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Speaker 3: you can get in there. Get down. He's tried so

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Speaker 3: bad to make a play because of what's around him

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Speaker 3: and everything that he feels like the world is on

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Speaker 3: the shoulders. That's going to be a detriment for him.

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Speaker 3: And you don't want to see the app.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't run like Skataboo does who can take contact.

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Speaker 2: But I would have RG three talk to Jackson dark

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Speaker 2: because RG three might be the fastest quarterback who's ever

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Speaker 2: played that position. But you gotta be You gotta be

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Speaker 2: smart when you scramble, when you decide you want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my brother Key to leave where on the show

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Speaker 3: called The Gridiron, it's about underdog fantasy, and he says

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Speaker 3: that's all the time. If you want to do running

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Speaker 3: back stuff, you have to deal with running back stuff.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to go in there and duck

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Speaker 3: your shoulder and try to run this dude over and

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Speaker 3: all that, you gotta take what comes with that, which

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Speaker 3: is what comes with being a running back, getting hit

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Speaker 3: all in your knees. You might take a couple extra hits,

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Speaker 3: your shoulder's gonna be banged all up and all that.

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Speaker 3: But that's what running backs do. Running Backs are built

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Speaker 3: to deal with it. You are a quarterback, don't do

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Speaker 3: running back stuff, but want to deal with it like

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. If you gonna do running back stuff, you

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Speaker 3: gotta deal with running back stuff. I love that he

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Speaker 3: says that because it's true.

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Speaker 2: What does Jonathan Taylor have to do to win the

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Speaker 2: mv pick Just.

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Speaker 3: Be consistent the rest of the year. You know what

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Speaker 3: he's doing right now at this level, it's incredible, and

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Speaker 3: if any year is the year to go win it,

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Speaker 3: it's this year because there's not any quarterback that's like, wow,

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Speaker 3: looking what this guy is doing. Like last year, what

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Speaker 3: Lamar was doing was unprecedented. What Josh Allen was able

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Speaker 3: having was freaking at that game he had out in

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Speaker 3: types of games from quarterbacks. So if he's consistently like

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Speaker 3: what he just did yesterday versus the Falcons, that's an

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Speaker 3: MVP game. So when he wins the award, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: look back to everybody has that game. That's his MVP game.

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Speaker 3: Now he has to have these consistent moments throughout the year.

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Speaker 3: See Saquan any other year would have been the MVP

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor's not up against that this year. So he

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Speaker 3: just has to be consistent with what he's doing, give

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Speaker 3: winning it. I think he'll win MVP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he will because we've created the

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Speaker 2: We're gonna give it to a running back or a

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Speaker 3: What that's Yeah, well that's that's not right because here's

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Speaker 3: the evidence. And this is me, indie fans. I don't

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Speaker 3: care how y'all feel. Y'all are fans of your team?

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Speaker 3: Y'all not paying attention. This is the most valuable player. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Drake may is playing far beyond his years. He's playing great.

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Speaker 3: He is. Matthew Stafford is playing phenomenal. He's playing great. Okay,

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Speaker 3: But you see yesterday and the last two weeks is

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Speaker 3: why Jonathan Taylor should be at the top of the

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Speaker 3: It was not the same team when Jonathan Taylor did

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Speaker 3: not take over the game we seen yesterday. Don't care.

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Speaker 3: Everybody likes to look at numbers. What did your eyes

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Speaker 3: tell you when you're watching this game. Daniel Jones interception,

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Speaker 3: three fumbles, all of them really should have been taken away.

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Speaker 3: But that would have been another two to three turnovers

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Speaker 3: from the quarterback. Okay, so what do we do? Stop

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Speaker 3: depending on him? Give it to the running back, Give

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Speaker 3: it to the running back. Give it to the running back,

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Speaker 3: Give it to the running back. He's the reason that

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Speaker 3: game was even one. Everybody wants to talk about that

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Speaker 3: one throw he made. He's the quarterback. We need you

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Speaker 3: to make a throw. Make a throw, please? Okay, but

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Speaker 3: who made all the key players who put when they

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Speaker 3: needed something to happen, they put it on Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: That is a running back. Why is he running us

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Speaker 3: be doing it? Granted, I understand the Founders are a

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Speaker 3: good pass defense. However, that's not what we've seen yesterday

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Speaker 3: two weeks should be evidence that that guy is the MVP.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst, you can see

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Speaker 2: in NFL Game Day morning Sundays at nine am Eastern

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Speaker 2: on NFL Network. Most disappointing teams so far is who?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Most disappointing team?

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Speaker 2: Ye?

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's a two man race. Now. Granted one

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Speaker 3: of the player's main player got hurt. But the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 3: especially defensively, and the Buffalo Bills, right, but a lot

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Speaker 3: a point now now it's a race of Baltimore gets

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Speaker 3: Then you go down to Miami and it's like, what

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Speaker 3: the heck happened? So I would say both of those

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Speaker 3: losing these games. They shouldn't lose. But Packers were a

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Speaker 3: good team, but they were in the mix. Not people

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Speaker 3: and where they are right now, that's not what we're seeing.

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Speaker 3: So I would say those two teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably. I think the Ravens are gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they have it. They definitely have a shot

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Speaker 3: well I c yeah, lamar, yeah, Like you look at Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: They gotta play Pittsburgh twice. Pittsburgh is so you don't

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Speaker 3: But even so, what we've seen from them all year,

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Speaker 3: You know? So I would say those two teams if

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at like actual disappointing teams for you expected more.

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Speaker 2: You ever land on a quarterback, like try to land

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Speaker 3: Like no, it just happens. You play the game is put.

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Speaker 3: This is what I say to anybody, And this is

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Speaker 3: this is what bothers me about these rules is the

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Speaker 3: not just in the game, but practice workouts combine. Are

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Speaker 3: you've seen how fast these athletes move. You've seen how

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Speaker 3: fast this game is. Defensive linemen are taught you have

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Speaker 3: imagine how fast you have to be moving to get

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Speaker 3: why do you think that we glorify a person who

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Speaker 3: it's glorified by everybody. It's called a sack. When you

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Speaker 3: get ten of those, you're put in a different level.

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Speaker 3: There are seventeen games now. The average game you're playing

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Speaker 3: you can't falling. And I heard Michael Straighthead saying something

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Speaker 3: that I love that. He said, they act like quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: are football players. And it's just like you get push

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Speaker 3: this agenda of oh, the game is fair and it's

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Speaker 3: all about protection and all of we just trying to no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: it's about keeping those guys healthy so we can see

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Speaker 3: points so we can make money. Because if we're talking

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Speaker 3: about protection, why that a corner offensive lineman who on

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Speaker 3: average is six two six three and up three hundred

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Speaker 3: who was pulling. Well, now you can't do that anymore.

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Speaker 3: And we're talking about fair or safe. Nah, man, come

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Speaker 3: on stop it. I like y'all.

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Speaker 2: I like y'all fired up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it an that's just they man. The game

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Speaker 3: is too fast for this for y'all to still be like,

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Speaker 3: Of that you ont known example of that. So we

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter if these guys are right here.

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Speaker 3: Some people's launch point is at nine yards, some people's

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Speaker 3: That's why when Warren Sap was doing what he was

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Speaker 2: It great to talk to you. Thanks you always.

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Speaker 2: He is Rick Neuheisel, former head coach analyst for CBS Sports.

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Speaker 2: All Right, did Fernando Mendoza win the Heisman this weekend? Listen?

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Speaker 4: In any other year I would have said yes, because

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Speaker 4: but this year has been so different with the names

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Speaker 4: can't count him out either. All right, let's start to

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Speaker 4: this is going to like you can make declarative statements here.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the SEC What do you think happens?

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Speaker 4: I think the SEC is going to get five. I

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Speaker 4: Well, how about Lane Kiffin having Florida come to town legally?

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Speaker 4: I think that we have the Jedfish at Washington. I

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Speaker 4: he wants to stay. But maybe a little early in

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Speaker 4: the negotiation to be saying such a thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can't remember when we had all of

433
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Speaker 2: these openings during his season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody think everybody think of this, Well, I think so,

435
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Speaker 4: because everybody's trying to get to the head of the class.

436
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Speaker 4: Because we've got an early signing date coming up on

437
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Speaker 4: one of these early Wednesdays in December. We've got a

438
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Speaker 4: transfer portal and now we've only got one transfer portal

439
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Speaker 4: and that's going to start January tewod through the sixteenth.

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Speaker 4: So all these teams that are kind of trying position

441
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Speaker 4: themselves for the CFP, those coaches are going to be

442
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Speaker 4: late to the dance if they get another job, which

443
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Speaker 4: is going to be really chaos. This is why most

444
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Speaker 4: of the athletic directors wanted the one transfer portal to

445
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Speaker 4: be at the end of April, but all the coaches

446
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Speaker 4: want to know who's going to be on my team

447
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Speaker 4: so I can build for the entirety of the year.

448
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Speaker 4: Were bass awkward, as they say in this business, and

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Speaker 4: it spends for some time. If that's been the case.

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Speaker 2: How would you feel if you were the opposing coach

451
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Speaker 2: when USC swaps out their punter and with a different

452
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Speaker 2: jersey number.

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Speaker 4: Thinking that this might be a topic of conversation with you,

454
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Speaker 4: I read from the hymnal. Otherwise the NCAA rule book

455
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Speaker 4: the following are considered unethical practices changing numbers during a

456
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Speaker 4: game to deceive an opponent. Now, to be fair to Lincoln,

457
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Speaker 4: he did this before the game. But the Big ten

458
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Speaker 4: is saying you can't have two guys at the same

459
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Speaker 4: position wearing the same number. And so now this is

460
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Speaker 4: going to be like Dan Lanning last year putting the

461
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Speaker 4: twelfth guy on the field against Ohio State. This is

462
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Speaker 4: going to be a rule change. It may be within

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Speaker 4: the week that will get.

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Speaker 3: The rule change.

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Speaker 4: But some would call that clever, some would call that

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Speaker 4: a dirty, dirty trick. I pat David Brown on the

467
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Speaker 4: back for making no such claim. Good to talk to

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Speaker 4: you as always. Always a treat, my friend. Good games

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Speaker 4: they remember are played in November. You owe me a

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Speaker 4: song here soon? Oh next time, next time, I'll have something. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how about yeah before Christmas? The games in November are

472
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Speaker 4: the ones we remember. There you go, something just sultry

473
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Speaker 4: like that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Bud, You got a pal, Rick new Isle.

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Speaker 2: I asked Fritzy reach out to Jeff Passing. Does a

489
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Speaker 2: wonderful job covering baseball their MLB insider. I know he's

490
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Speaker 2: busy because they have the UH I think the GM

491
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Speaker 2: meetings in Las Vegas. But you also have a controversy

492
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Speaker 2: here with a pair of pictures with the Guardians, and

493
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Speaker 2: they could be headed to prison. Jeff Passing kind enough

494
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Speaker 2: to join us. Jeff, thanks for joining us. Bring us

495
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Speaker 2: up to speed. Can you explain the situation with the

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Speaker 2: Guardians pitchers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not great, Dan, and this is really the

498
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Speaker 6: intersection of gambling and sports and where it allegedly can

499
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Speaker 6: go wrong. An indictment was unsealed yesterday by the Eastern

500
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Speaker 6: District of New York, which at the same US Attorney's

501
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Speaker 6: office that indicted Damon Jones and Terry Rozier and others

502
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Speaker 6: involved in a separate alleged gambling scheme. In this case,

503
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Speaker 6: Luis Ortiz, a Cleveland Guardians pitcher, and Emmanuel Classe, who

504
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Speaker 6: is widely regarded as one of the best closers in

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Speaker 6: Major League Baseball, three time All Star, two time Mariano rivera.

506
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Speaker 3: Reliever of the Year in the American League.

507
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Speaker 6: Allegedly conspired with betters to place proposition bets on individual

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Speaker 6: pitches so, for example, you can bet whether a single

509
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 6: pitch is going to be a ball or a strike,

510
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 6: and they would get together, according to prosecutors beforehand, and

511
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Speaker 6: say this pitch in, this is going to be a ball.

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Speaker 6: And what would happen is, you know, ten thousand or

513
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Speaker 6: so dollars would be wagered.

514
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it was more, sometimes it was less.

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Speaker 6: This allegedly happened a significant number of times, up to

516
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Speaker 6: the point where the government alleges that more than four

517
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Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars was made on Emmanuel Classe's pitches alone.

518
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Speaker 6: And then this is something that's going back down allegedly

519
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Speaker 6: to May. At twenty twenty three, orties came in, according

520
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Speaker 6: to prosecutors, joined the scheme.

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Speaker 3: This year and on June fifteenth through a ball.

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Speaker 6: Then was paid five thousand dollars to do so, and

523
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Speaker 6: class got five thousand dollars for facilitating it. On June

524
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Speaker 6: twenty seventh, did that one more time and the payment

525
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Speaker 6: was seven thousand dollars. Now, Ortiz's attorney came out and

526
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Speaker 6: said he is completely innocent of all charge. Jes Basse's

527
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Speaker 6: attorney was not quite as vociferous, but said, essentially we

528
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Speaker 6: will have our day in court and.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing.

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Speaker 6: It's just really interesting to me, Dan that I'm in

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Speaker 6: Las Vegas right now for a Major League Baseball event

532
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Speaker 6: when this is happening, and it shows the way that

533
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Speaker 6: gambling has infiltrated professional sports, and you really do wonder,

534
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Speaker 6: can the toothpaste be put back in the tube or

535
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Speaker 6: is this the new norm?

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Speaker 2: They don't cap prop bit.

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Speaker 6: I think it just depends on where you're doing the gambling.

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Speaker 6: And the reason that this was caught in the first

539
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Speaker 6: place is because they're betting integrity firms out there that

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Speaker 6: tracked this sort of thing, and they saw that Luis

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Speaker 6: Ortiz had a pretty significant amount of money placed on

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Speaker 6: one of his pitches.

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Speaker 3: And then that's interesting.

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Speaker 6: You know, With Class A, I suppose it's a little

545
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Speaker 6: bit different because he's as good as he is, he's

546
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Speaker 6: as well known as he is. With with Ortiz, a

547
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Speaker 6: little bit different. Who you know, nobody knows who Luis

548
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Speaker 6: Ortiz is. And so it happens a second time. And

549
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 6: once it happened the second time, the betting integrity firms

550
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 6: flagged the books and Major League Baseball was informed, and

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Speaker 6: almost immediately both Ortiz and class were placed on non

552
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Speaker 6: disciplinary paid leave and have been gone from the Guardian

553
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Speaker 6: since July. And you know, regardless of how this turns

554
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Speaker 6: out in court, the notion that they are going to

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Speaker 6: be back pitching at any point in Major League Baseball

556
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Speaker 6: seems unlikely.

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Speaker 2: And I've mentioned this before that you'll have guys who

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Speaker 2: are on the periphree. They live in a vacuum because

559
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Speaker 2: they're probably thinking nobody's going to be tracking this. You know,

560
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Speaker 2: I'm nobody. I can throw this pitch, my buddies can

561
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Speaker 2: make some money. I get a little kick back here,

562
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: just like Johntay Porter with the Raptors. He's a no

563
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: name player, and hey, I got an over under and

564
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be under. I'm going to take myself out

565
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: of the game. Terry Rogier. That's the problem. It's not

566
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Speaker 2: star players, it's the guys who don't think anybody's watching.

567
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Speaker 2: But Vegas has to watch.

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Speaker 6: Of course, Vegas has to watch, and frankly, all of

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Speaker 6: us as sports fans, should be apoplectic about this. Games

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Speaker 6: are only as good as they are believable. And the

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Speaker 6: second that you start chipping away at the idea that

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Speaker 6: what we're watching is real, what we're watching is on

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Speaker 6: the up and up. What's the point of watching sports

574
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Speaker 6: if you don't feel like there's real competition. And it's

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Speaker 6: so interesting to me that it's almost taken gambling to

576
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Speaker 6: remind us of this point. Why people were so angry

577
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Speaker 6: about the Houston Astros cheating is because the expectation of

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Speaker 6: fair play of both sides doing this the right way.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think I even need to use air

580
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 6: quotes for that. There is a right way and there

581
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Speaker 6: is a wrong way, and what the Astros did was wrong.

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Speaker 6: And even though Emmanuel Classe and Luis Ortiz, if they

583
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Speaker 6: did this, could say, hey, it's just one ball, I

584
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Speaker 6: can get back into the count. Class A in twenty

585
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Speaker 6: twenty four had one of the best relief seasons in

586
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Speaker 6: Major League history. Even though all of those things are true,

587
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Speaker 6: it's just the fact that if this exists at one point,

588
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 6: is it not a slippery slope. Hey, you know, I

589
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: threw one ball. I can come back from a two

590
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Speaker 6: to zero count. Or if it's the third pitch in

591
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: it bat and the guy is down two, can waste

592
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Speaker 6: a pitch.

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Speaker 3: I can waste two pitches.

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Speaker 6: And then you get to the point, Dan where it's

595
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Speaker 6: like if you open the door to that, then you're

596
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 6: just inviting more and more and more.

597
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Speaker 2: Talking to Jeff Passing, ESPN Senior Baseball Insider, what's the

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Speaker 2: spicy topic there in Vegas?

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Speaker 6: Oh boy, Well, it's the Major League Baseball off season,

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00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 6: so spiciness it's it's muted, like we don't have a

601
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 6: ton of spice going, Okay, we need some more, we

602
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 6: need some more flavor to the off season. I don't

603
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Speaker 6: anticipate there's going to be any big free agent signings

604
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Speaker 6: this week. I don't think that, frankly, we're going to

605
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Speaker 6: have a big trade go down. This week is more

606
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Speaker 6: about just feeling out what the market is going to

607
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 6: look like. And because MLB does not have a salary cap,

608
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: that's off season is accordingly slow. Teams you know, they

609
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Speaker 6: are able to maneuver around and respond to the market

610
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Speaker 6: and don't feel like they have to go out and

611
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Speaker 6: spend all this money early on to take up their

612
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Speaker 6: cap space.

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Speaker 3: And it's one of the things I appreciate about.

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Speaker 6: Baseball likes it's an actual market and it operates that

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Speaker 6: way without those sorts of restrictions.

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Speaker 2: You got a couple of Japanese players who I think

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Speaker 2: are being posted. Is it just a pipeline to the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers if they want them.

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Speaker 6: They don't anticipate that this offseason because if you look

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Speaker 6: at now, I think it's twofold number one. If you

621
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Speaker 6: look at what the Dodgers need. Of course, they could

622
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Speaker 6: always use another starting pitcher, but among the four that

623
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Speaker 6: they had starting for them this postseason with Yoshinobu Yamamoto,

624
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Speaker 6: Blake Snell, Tyler Glasnam, Shoho Tani, you add to that

625
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Speaker 6: two more guys on their roster, Justin Robleski and Roki Sasaki,

626
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Speaker 6: who are starting pitchers, and you throw Gavin Stone and

627
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Speaker 6: River Ryan coming back from major arm.

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Speaker 3: Surgeries in there.

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Speaker 6: The Dodgers have pitching depth, like real pitching depth, frankly,

630
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Speaker 6: from which they can trade. And Morikami they just signed

631
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Speaker 6: or they just picked up Max Mounsey's option. Now that

632
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 6: that does not keep them from pursuing Lunataka Morikami, who

633
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 6: is a massive power left handed hitter, hit fifty six

634
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Speaker 6: home runs in a season twenty two years old, and

635
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 6: has a chance just an enormous ceiling.

636
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Speaker 3: But between him and Tatsuya am I.

637
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Speaker 6: Who's a right hander who's about Yamamoto size and has

638
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 6: that kind of high octane fastball, really good command, and

639
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 6: good off speed stuff as well. I think the bigger

640
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 6: thing dan other teams want Japanese players to other teams

641
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 6: understand there's enormous talent to be mined in Japan and

642
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 6: you're not going to get those top end guys in

643
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Speaker 6: the future if you haven't illustrated in the past that

644
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 6: you're a landing spot for Japanese players, that you are

645
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 6: friendly to the Japanese culture, that you understand and the

646
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: mindset of Japanese players coming over the Dodgers. One of

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Speaker 6: the best things that they did was corner the market

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Speaker 6: in Japan and say we want everyone in Japan to

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Speaker 6: be wearing Dodger blue. It was brilliant, not just in

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Speaker 6: a baseball sense, but in a financial sense as well.

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Speaker 6: And I think all the other teams around the league

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Speaker 6: are like, well, you know, if you can't beat them

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Speaker 6: and join.

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Speaker 2: Them, behave there in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Okay, I make no promises, then.

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Speaker 2: You already look guilty. Thank you, bun.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Passon