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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has problems, but free agency eight.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosa thought what's up boys? Hey Dan? Apologies to the

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Speaker 1: listeners missed the show on Friday. The minute we're all

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Speaker 1: going upstairs, I got a call from around. Hysterical is

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Speaker 1: a strong word. I get in trouble for saying my

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Speaker 1: wife has hysteric but a very upset Emily, saying that

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Speaker 1: she had been in a car accident nearby a few

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Speaker 1: miles away. Everything okay healthwise for my wife and our

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Speaker 1: baby in the back seat, But the car, it's over.

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Speaker 1: For the car, it's older, over for the old Zeuster

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Speaker 1: having a little extra pocket change this summer. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're glad to hear she's doing fine. That's the most

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Speaker 1: important part that that Harry and Emily are fine. But

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Speaker 1: daddy's bank account takes a pop, and it missed an

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Speaker 1: important podcast. So these are like the negatives. And we

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Speaker 1: But that's why I missed the show. I was bummed

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Speaker 1: to miss it because when an action packed so I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it was. Yeah, I mean the positives were the

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Speaker 1: first three news stories of the day, getting an entire

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes of airtime without you here. You gotta

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Speaker 1: keep things moving. Do you feel like? I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: you did the right thing I think in terms of

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Speaker 1: family needs and concerns above the podcast. Well, it's funny

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Speaker 1: should say that because I had it happened so soon

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Speaker 1: before the show that I had the budget, the rundown

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Speaker 1: like an hour. That just handed it to Greg and said,

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Speaker 1: Greg gotta go. Emily has been an accident. And Greg

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Speaker 1: gave me a look like, are you sure that is

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Speaker 1: not Greg rusy fold by a name? Is he something? Friends? On?

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Speaker 1: This is the Judd Apatow movie. Let's trim it down

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Who was that? That came from Chris

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Speaker 1: Kana in London? By the way, Dan's now gotten full

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Speaker 1: damage that he's testing out bits for the show before

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Speaker 1: the show like he did this one before at his death. No,

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Speaker 1: I I gave Greg the rundown. Then Greg did give

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Speaker 1: me a look, but I think it was more like

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Speaker 1: you were a little shocked. Of course I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: I was because all I heard was she was in

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Speaker 1: a terrible But the look you gave me was enough

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Speaker 1: for me to think for a second to myself, I

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Speaker 1: I was just that was the last thing, because you

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Speaker 1: were kind of I've never seen Dan's eyes and just

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Speaker 1: he was very panicked, which I would be. It was

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Speaker 1: not panic, not in this situation. You look like you

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Speaker 1: need you needed me to get out of the conversation

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Speaker 1: that I was in. I was talking to someone else

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Speaker 1: actually about our up to the minute hit, which people

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Speaker 1: should check out. We have another one today Monday. I

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Speaker 1: guess it's too late, but you can check it on TVR,

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Speaker 1: check it online, uh to two o'clock now Easter and

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Speaker 1: every year you were in the middle of telling some

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Speaker 1: sort of a story there and then yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: then then I was out. Well, one last thing, the

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Speaker 1: we've forged on into the show bravely without knowing the

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Speaker 1: how the whole thing wound up. Do you think more

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Speaker 1: I think I think you know the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: All Right, big show today, sponsored of course by St.

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Speaker 1: Flames Economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. Um, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into a little bit later. We also has a

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Speaker 1: foursome had a nice getaway day and pomp Springs for

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Speaker 1: is this you've been missing, young catchy little one? Just

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Speaker 1: one little nugget from the journey. Mark and I drove

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Speaker 1: from the truth, all right, Greg, all right, So yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the news. Uh. This is now

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Speaker 1: one week almost into free agency. So where have where

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Speaker 1: want to make love to Greg. What on earth was

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Speaker 1: that pulled from I have no words? Likes? Is sneaky? Diabolical?

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves retirement news. DeMarcus where one of the best

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Speaker 1: Ware is number three. That's a first ballot, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: had might double. It might work against him in double

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Speaker 1: here because he might not even get more money now,

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Speaker 1: uh than even Marty Bennett. And well, I mean I'd

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Speaker 1: be stunned if he did. And it's it's all about

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Speaker 1: these guys sometimes don't realize stick with the with the

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Speaker 1: positive situation with a great quarterback, it will work out

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Speaker 1: for you in the long run. And because of some

436
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Speaker 1: hard bargaining, he's completely potentially out in the culture making

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Speaker 1: less money with almost certainly a lesser quarterback. Yikes. One

438
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Speaker 1: little note on the Patriots. They Marty Bennett's gonna get

439
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Speaker 1: about seven million a year. Cook's, Dwayne Allen, and Coney

440
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Speaker 1: Eliot are going to combine to make seven and a

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Speaker 1: half million this year. M hmm. They got three players

442
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Speaker 1: instead of one. That's why they have more cap space

443
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Speaker 1: coming into this offseason than almost anyone else. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on Terrell prior he will have a new

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Speaker 1: home in the Former Browns wide receiver has signed a

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Speaker 1: one year deal with the Washington Redskins at eight million

447
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Speaker 1: dollars uh six ft four coming off of one thousand

448
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Speaker 1: yards season and seventy seven receptions in his first U

449
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Speaker 1: real wide receiver year with a terrible Brown's offense, and

450
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Speaker 1: he still managed to put up those numbers. But he

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Speaker 1: gets to prove it contract out of it. Greag I

452
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Speaker 1: gotta ask the question here and now we got with

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Speaker 1: the all the negative comments he got during the season.

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Speaker 1: The Browns, a team with a ton of cap space rebuilding,

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Speaker 1: have a young ascendant wide out, they don't keep him

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Speaker 1: in the building. He gets a one year, proven deal.

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Speaker 1: What is the stink on Terrell Prior? That's how I

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Speaker 1: read this that once again we're having more evidence that

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Speaker 1: there's something about this guy that people don't like. They

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Speaker 1: you just said it. They don't like him. The league

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Speaker 1: doesn't like him, and he liked He is very similar

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Speaker 1: to Cook. He had a much better contract on the

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Speaker 1: table from the Bear from the Browns, a multi year

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Speaker 1: offer reportedly around eight million dollars a year with guarantees

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Speaker 1: into the second year, pretty much the contract that Kenny

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Speaker 1: Britt signed with the Browns. Terrell Prior could have had.

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Speaker 1: He didn't do it, and he ended up getting six

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Speaker 1: It says eight million, but it's a really a six

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Speaker 1: million dollar deal. I mean, that's a eight that's a

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Speaker 1: great low risk, I think, high reward signing by Washington.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's amazing he couldn't do better. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in an off season of ridiculous negatives for the for

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, this is a player who is going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting in this offense. And and maybe it's just

475
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Speaker 1: one season, we'll find out, but I I kind of

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Speaker 1: think that we would have seen some sort of a

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Speaker 1: tail off from Prior in Cleveland because he said it himself.

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Speaker 1: They said, you know today, you mean with reporters, are

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Speaker 1: you Are you sure you don't know how much drama

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Speaker 1: is happening here in Washington said I just played with

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Speaker 1: six quarterbacks in one season. He's like, I, this is

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Speaker 1: different for me as a player. Well, Mark, I have

483
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Speaker 1: to ask you, because one of your great fears as

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Speaker 1: a football fan is the team the player leaving your

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Speaker 1: team and then having big years after he leaves. Prior

486
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Speaker 1: is like the prototypical case for this. Are you unhappy

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Speaker 1: that they decided to get out of business with the

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Speaker 1: only thing that I like about it? By all accounts,

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Speaker 1: the Browns didn't just screw this up necessarily like Prior.

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Speaker 1: I thought he could go get much more. And I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of players find out that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: And I don't like the dynamic of bad team kind

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Speaker 1: of developing player player goes somewhere else. You have to

494
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Speaker 1: stop that. But you also have to know this is

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Speaker 1: our market value for this player. We're not being the

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Speaker 1: guy doesn't want to deal do business with us. We'll

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Speaker 1: find someone else. I'm not I'm not in love with

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Speaker 1: the Kenny Britt signing. It sounds like he went back

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Speaker 1: to the Browns at the end too, and was like

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Speaker 1: you sure you don't want to get in on this.

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00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: I think that there was that report. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: much is that is just trying to save face and

503
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: going back and forth, because I think the Browns set

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Speaker 1: their value when he walked away. They signed someone else.

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Speaker 1: They weren't left with nothing. You have to like any

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Speaker 1: Britt more than a guy close to the the thirties, had

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Speaker 1: knee issues. He's had the field issues prior it. It

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Speaker 1: goes back to the stink thing, like how does Kenny

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Speaker 1: Britt get paid by the Browns? A guy that's had

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Speaker 1: all sorts of issues in his past and prior. You know,

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Speaker 1: he is not even close to the Kenny Britten when

512
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Speaker 1: you look off the field and those type of situations.

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Speaker 1: It just something. It has nothing to do with like

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Speaker 1: me ripping the Browns. I'm curious what the deal that

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Speaker 1: was the signing of all Cleveland. As you talk about

516
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Speaker 1: their strategy is and what they want to do signing

517
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Speaker 1: an aging Kenny Britt did not fitted that that might

518
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Speaker 1: have been we have to get someone. But you also

519
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Speaker 1: drafted a bunch of wide receivers that clearly you don't like,

520
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Speaker 1: and that says that you can you can, you can

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Speaker 1: make these trades. You have to draft players that are

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Speaker 1: that are gonna win for you, that are going to

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Speaker 1: be developed. Because if you're if you're already looking for

524
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Speaker 1: veteran wide receivers to sign over all these guys you drafted,

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Speaker 1: it's not a great sign. Let's talk some brock Osweiler

526
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Speaker 1: because he is a current member of the Cleveland Browns.

527
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Speaker 1: Who knows for how long, but after one year into

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Speaker 1: signing a multi year uh deal with a ton of

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money with the Texans, the Texans wanted them out

530
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Speaker 1: of the building so badly that they're willing to eat

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Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars in a trade that we all uh

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Speaker 1: know about, which happened last week that netted the Browns

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Speaker 1: a second round pick. And there had been some percolations

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Speaker 1: I'll call them greg but what something that may have

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Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes in Houston that led to the

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Speaker 1: Texans Washington has beyond the act that Osweiler stunk last

537
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Speaker 1: year something else and in p f T Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk reported this weekend UH that, per source with knowledge

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Speaker 1: of the situation, UH, the game in week seventeen when

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage was named the starter or was starting in

541
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Speaker 1: that game, went out with a head injury. UH. Osweiler

542
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: went into the game, and then at halftime there was

543
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: a discussion where Savage was told he's out of the

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Speaker 1: game per the concussion protocol, and when Osweiler learned he

545
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Speaker 1: was staying in him and Bill O'Brien got into it

546
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: because something along the lines of oh, you didn't want me,

547
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Speaker 1: and now you have to play me, and that led

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Speaker 1: to almost a physical altercation of some kind. And the

549
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: decision at that point was it was history less, tell

550
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: me about it self. Entitlement of this guy is unbelievable.

551
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Your number two on the depth chart. That's what it means.

552
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: When the first guy gets hurt, you go in. That's

553
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: how football's played, Brock. And for you to hold this

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00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: offense hostage for six teen weeks and then like pull

555
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: a diva move of that nature, well, he he literally

556
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: used the words that he was being held hostage. That

557
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: was those were some of the words, you know, according

558
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: to you know the source here Brian was holding him hostage. Basically,

559
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: you're only using me because you need me, you know that,

560
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: Like that's how it works. It's a football works well. Also,

561
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: the other thing is it should surprise no one that

562
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: there is uh soap opera antics in Bill O'Brien's quarterback room.

563
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: He's he hasn't been able to run that thing in

564
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: two years. At least. Brock is working on it. His

565
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: name and everything about him, including how he's like just

566
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: a little too polished at everything in front of the camera.

567
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: He is like the evil character from a football movie,

568
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback who gets benched. Sounds basically brock solution

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Speaker 1: for the Browns at quarterback. Where is the yeah, because

570
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: I worry about he'll end up landing with the Jets,

571
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: either via trade or some type of signing, or the

572
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Speaker 1: Browns who don't want the Browns the secretly be talking

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00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: themselves into a year of Brock. You don't want him

574
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Speaker 1: on your team now. But here's a weird angle. The Broncos,

575
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: who are willing to give him a lot of money

576
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: last year, they could sign him with like the league minimum.

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Speaker 1: If elways still that thinks he has skill set, does

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Speaker 1: that make any sense? I don't you think there's too

579
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: much water under that break? Probably? Probably? I mean it

580
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: was not a graceful exit. By that's a good point

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Speaker 1: that he he did talk, he spoke out in the

582
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: media about it identity. I don't know if any team

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00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: would refuse to go to the White House. By the way,

584
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Speaker 1: does anyone even see him as a starter at this

585
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: point outside of the most desperate team that No, we're

586
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: just thinking about backup spots. I was thinking Rick Dennison

587
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: is in Buffalo, that was his coordinator in Denver, had

588
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: success under him. That would make sense as a backup job.

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00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think this report is going to help him now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm all in for the Jets kind

591
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: of tanking in a classy way this year. But I

592
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: just don't want to even I don't want to see

593
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: brock osw arder jet Uni. Well, you'll get r G three,

594
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: then print that on T shirt. Taking Keen in a

595
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: classy way. Yeah, I'll take Josh McCown in RG three.

596
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: That's how you work, like haste class bad RG three season.

597
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: You just experienced one. I mean, I don't think that's

598
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: better on the outside than it feels on the inside. Kaepernick,

599
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Brock in RG three, it's like those did. None of

600
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: them are guaranteed to be in the NFL this year.

601
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: I think Kaepernick is getting Barry Bonds In two thousand seven,

602
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds hit almost thirty home runs and led the

603
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: majors on base percentage and never played a game again. Uh,

604
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: and he was like the face of the steroids era.

605
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: I think Kaepernick a totally different situation, but I don't

606
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Speaker 1: think he's going to get a job. Kaepernick doing that

607
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Speaker 1: minus the on field production, right, Wow, except you didn't

608
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Speaker 1: really do anything like that. Most sane people would really

609
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: have that big of a problem with Yeah, but we're

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Speaker 1: talking without you know, I think football related. I think

611
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Speaker 1: that you know, if you've watched Kaepernick over the years,

612
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: you don't do you want him as a quarterback? And

613
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: absolutely he had he had some stretches last year War.

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Speaker 1: I'd want him as a somebody to compete if I'm

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00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: the Jets with nobody, sure, if you're the Jets, I

616
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: think the Jets are Also there's a couple of teams

617
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: in a weird situation where they're they're the collectors for

618
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: these crappy quarterbacks. I think you'll get a job of

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Speaker 1: those three. I feel most confident. I feel like r

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Speaker 1: G three could be quitting football to you know, take

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Speaker 1: over his consuming life, passion, sloganeering. Maybe he can be

622
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Speaker 1: a uh yeah, I'll leave it at this mark. I

623
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: don't think that the team owned by Woody Johnson is

624
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: going to sign Colin Kaepernick's that's true. Um, let's move on.

625
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: T J. Lange has signed a three year deal with

626
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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, as comes um after the Brown's got

627
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: center to j C. Treader and now Lang gets paid. Uh.

628
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: Lang has been a starting guard for the Packers since

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Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Uh. He's twenty nine years old, the

630
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: former fourth round pick. Uh, and now he joins the

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Speaker 1: law Lion's west. Um, you know every offense is good

632
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: to be an offensive lineman right now? T J. Lange

633
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: got nineteen million? Is this the deal that will work out?

634
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm sort of interested to see how the two thousand

635
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: seventeen Lion season plays out because their GM is getting

636
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: so much praise for these moves. Are we sure that

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00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: Ricky Wagner and T j Lange are going to be

638
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: better than Riley Rife and Larry Warford. I'm not right.

639
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: I it's kind of been a trend that teams with

640
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: oligned problems have just been shuffling them around like one

641
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: guy's one team's problem is another team solution. Lang wasn't

642
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Speaker 1: a problem. I mean Lane langs mostly getting off several surgeries.

643
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Lang is a really good player who's leaving that system

644
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: and coming off hip surgery. And they and they have

645
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: a good history of knowing when to say goodbye to

646
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: their players. But you wouldn't think there's some huge difference

647
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Speaker 1: between the lineman leaving Detroit and the lineman arriving. Maybe

648
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: you know a little better. Get excited about the Lions,

649
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: are you? It's March? I think you have some time

650
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Speaker 1: to build up that excitement. Get my DJ Hayden jersey,

651
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Speaker 1: get your hated jersey official one. You're gonna get the

652
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Speaker 1: ten dollar one. You're gonna get the one. Smart mona

653
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Speaker 1: be there all in, very very fiscally responsible. Uh. Moving on.

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Speaker 1: Jabal Jabal shar It has a new job. NFL Network

655
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: Inside Ian Report reported Friday the former Patriots in Brown's

656
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Speaker 1: pass Russia has agreed to a three year, twenty five

657
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: and a half million dollar deal with almost thirteen million

658
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: guaranteed with the Indianapolis Cults. The Cults later confirmed that

659
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Speaker 1: signing Mark Sessler. Your thoughts on Jabal sher to former

660
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Speaker 1: brown now in the a f C South, Well, I

661
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: know he struggled during part of last year with the Patriots,

662
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Speaker 1: was essentially benched, uh came back to contribute some on

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Speaker 1: One takeaway with him is that I m from watching

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Speaker 1: him for years with the Browns, very tough player, played

665
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Speaker 1: through essentially a something of a fractured foot for for

666
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: game after game for a team that had no real

667
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Speaker 1: reason to make him do that at that point in

668
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: the year, and played under four or five different defensive coordinators,

669
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Speaker 1: whether it was four three or three four. Jabal Shar

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Speaker 1: had always found a way to produce and he was

671
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Speaker 1: I thought it kind of a violent impact player for them.

672
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, coming out of the

673
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: New England thing, if you're getting the same guy but

674
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: always worked hard. I think it's a good signing for

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00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: the Cults who are rebuilt. They're doing things that their

676
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: former GM couldn't get done in three or four years.

677
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: You're adding the kind of players to make your defensive

678
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: lines better. There were offensive line There were multiple games

679
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: last year where the guy on the other side, John Simon,

680
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: was the best player on the Texans defense. And I'm

681
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: not saying he's a pro bowler, but the Colts needed

682
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: younger legs at outside linebacker and they got two of

683
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: them here. They're going They're going for Don Terry Po.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if they get him. They've got Kevin Mentor

685
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Speaker 1: at inside linebacker. Visiting their their new GM after years

686
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: of the old G. I'm not being able to fix

687
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: the defense. At least he's bringing in some quality players.

688
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: I think, right he's not breaking the bank. I think

689
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Speaker 1: he's going after Don Terry Po because post market really

690
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: didn't develop, and he's you know, can you get him

691
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Speaker 1: at a nice little discount value shopping? I like West.

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Speaker 1: How about the idea you've yet to procreate as far

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Speaker 1: as we know. If you like that idea, I do

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Speaker 1: like that idea. But if you have a son, horror daughter,

695
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Speaker 1: Jabal Wesley, Uh probably not. Okay, Hey, listen, everybody else,

696
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Speaker 1: any ideas sounds good. It sounds good. I would call

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Speaker 1: him like the Return of the Mailman Wesley, like or

698
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Maleman too. About Stephan Gilmore naming his daughter Giselle, born

699
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Speaker 1: on the same day he signed with Patriots. Craig, this

700
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Speaker 1: is big for you, Wuminati stuff going up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the reason he did it. Apparently it was.

702
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Speaker 1: That's just quinn. It is one of those names though,

703
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Speaker 1: that it's you gotta be away. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they had that conversation, you know, him and his wife, Um,

705
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Speaker 1: you gotta have the well, you know, our kids get

706
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Speaker 1: you know, there's a famous gazelle. There's some names that

707
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: are just kind of like the name is so famous

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Speaker 1: that you gotta think twice. Is she going to be

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Speaker 1: a super famous I mean maybe she'd probably that's probably

710
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Speaker 1: like the first Lady of America by then. That's the

711
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: kind of foresight that Gilmour's have. And I don't I

712
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: like that, right, Couldn't you see that Tom Brady goes

713
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: right from you know, as long as five years old,

714
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: his son takes over his Patriots quarterback and then he

715
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: assumes the White House. He'll still be under center in

716
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Speaker 1: New England. You got, you know, at the scandal from

717
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: the flake Gate. Any time a politician has a little

718
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: scandal around him, it will never call right. The ship

719
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Speaker 1: is completely Dan brings his gradual decline bit over to

720
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Speaker 1: the politics, switches over. Deitely does not hold in politics.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that. Alright, eight o'clock to the lifetime. Actually,

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Speaker 1: let's hear that. Let's do the Palm Spring song. Oh yeah,

723
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Speaker 1: let's have some fun. Let's that's years old. Eight o'clock

724
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Speaker 1: the light Time. I love this Palm Spring song. Nick

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00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Foles back in Philadelphia, making eleven million dollars on his

726
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: new two year deal, including seven million guarantees. Greg, what

727
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: does that mean for Chase? Dan Sunny used to be

728
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: shining for all Chase. It means he's gone and Philly

729
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: is the place you want to go to. If you're

730
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. You get paid weird career for by the

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Speaker 1: very strange career for Nick Foles moving, I'll go back

732
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: into college football after this. Just syth Daniel week one

733
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Speaker 1: jet starter. Let's take it a little boring, but I'll

734
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Speaker 1: take it. Let's go three and thirteen and we fly.

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Speaker 1: Kendall Wright joining the Bears on the Chicago joining the

736
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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears on a one year deal worth four million dollars.

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00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: According to rap Sheet, Wright was number fifty nine on

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL's top one on one free agents list.

739
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Difference maker West No, I love the Bears offices and

740
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: philosophy of over paying for everyone else's disappointments. The Cowboys

741
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: at spect right tackle Doug Free to retire uh Free

742
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: thirty three is played in and started one and seven

743
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: of a possible hundred twelve games since two thousand tens.

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00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: The tackles in the final year of restructure three year

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00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: deal mark not easy playing tackle. That body must be

746
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: burnt well, I mean possibly he's he's at the age

747
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: where a lineman would think about leaving. He's now literally

748
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Speaker 1: free to go do whatever he wishes. No, Oh my goodness,

749
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: plan words there, that was terrible. Lorenzo Alexander coming back

750
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Speaker 1: to the Bills on a two year deal. Raps here

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Speaker 1: aboard Saturday of the pass Rusher coming back to Western

752
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: New York two year deal, nine million dollars four point

753
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: one million guaranteed. Oh my goodness, thirty three years old,

754
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: and what does he do? Twelve and a half sacks

755
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: last year? He'll definitely repeat that, right, Greg Hey for that, well,

756
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: no one everyone agreed with you in the NFL. He

757
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: didn't really get a great contract four million. It's good

758
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Speaker 1: for him after a long career bouncing a rapt please

759
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: Western New York. You can buy it like six houses

760
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: for four million bucks. You're doing fine. And and uh

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: rex Ryan's old pickup truck with the Bills decals. The

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00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Jets have signed a new left tackle, Kelvin Beach him

763
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: formally of the Jacks, a three year, twenty four million

764
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Speaker 1: dollar deal. The Jets, of course cut ties with Ryan

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Speaker 1: Clady and Brino Geo Geocomi bio Comini Jacomini. Anyway, beat

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Speaker 1: him signed with Jack's Jackson the last offseason, didn't do

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00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: much and now he's with the Jets. Gonna be a

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00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: rock on that on that leftouds to the town. He's

769
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Speaker 1: a regular tyler Columbus. They guaranteed him twelve million, including

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Speaker 1: money into this year. These tackle contracts are wild for

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00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: players who struggled last year. Speaking of here's d J.

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00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: Fluger on the grid, the Charges tackle heading east, joining

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00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: the New York Giants in a one year deal. Started

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00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: all sixteen games in sixteen, but he's let go by

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00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: the Charges on Tuesday, Mark, I believe it's some off

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00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: the field issues. Uh not, maybe an all time player,

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: but a useful edition for the Giant. Again, at this

778
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: position group, you just keep getting paid over and over again?

779
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Do you have nine lives? So is it? I don't.

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00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: The Giants are not going to send their offense around

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00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: this guy. But finally, Chris Lausson Robert Woods formerly the Bill,

782
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: signed a five year, thirty nine million dollar contract with

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, who last year handed out funny

784
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Speaker 1: money to Tavon Austin and now it's Robert Woods turn.

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Speaker 1: If you want to look at this, with the contracts included,

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00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: it's unfathomable that Robert Woods and Tavon Austin are making

787
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Speaker 1: as much money as they are to get in the

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Speaker 1: end zone of combined five times five touchdowns between the

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00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: two of them last year. I've got I've got a

790
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: pace coming best and worst contracts. Spoiler, Robert Woods is

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00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: on there. Hey, I won't tell you which side. Congratulations

792
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. A little bitter sweet Gregg thinks you're a joke,

793
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: so does West, but you just got paid. He is

794
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: a good number three receiver and he's a good blocker,

795
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: but he doesn't make big plays. It's not a good sign.

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00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: When and I said this on the fantasy podcast. Wow,

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00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: I did. I went to a fantasy podcast, both of you.

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00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: It's a bad sign. It's a bad sign when they

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Speaker 1: send out the tweet of his signing from Adam Schefter

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00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: and it said one of the best blocking wide receivers

801
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 1: in football. Because he's just saying what the agent said.

802
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: That's the best thing they could come up with for

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00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. Well, it's it's a bad sign when two

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Speaker 1: people in the room have not been invited on the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy show and it's t Marlin, thank you very much

806
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: here with NFL dot COM's Greg Rosenthal dot com. NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com dot com. That's still who you are, Greg,

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00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: that's who you are. I got no problem with that.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to winners and losers of the first

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00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: week of free agency. Uh, any takeaways from our Palm

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Speaker 1: Springs trip. I we have haven't been on men uh

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00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: forsome trips. All four of us spent the night, none

813
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: in Palm Springs together. It was a late night. It

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00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: was a weird trip, non work related. I don't think

815
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: we totally non work related. It was a weird trip

816
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: in the sense that we got there. It was a

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00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: three basically a three day um party to celebrate Gonzo's

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Speaker 1: forty birthday and Don gonzalas Colleen Wolf's husband. Yes, I

819
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: mean we've said that a hundred times on this podcast.

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00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: I still bet the percentage of people hearing that on

821
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: this very show is let figure it out. Let the

822
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: let the newbies figure it out. You know. Sometimes you

823
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: help out potential nubies. Sometimes they gotta you know, fly

824
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: with the information as it comes. I've made a conscious

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00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: decision to just detach and Gonzo the legend. All right,

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Speaker 1: do you want to tell the new listeners who Colleen is? Yes,

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: she's a part time I was great, great job on

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00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: the NFL Now coverage all the time. Right, she does

829
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: some t a work of course, on the edge of

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00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: my seat here waiting for this penetrating analysis of the weekend. Anyway, So,

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Speaker 1: and this is a forty birthday party, So you gotta

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00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: understand the clientele. This isn't a party of twenty seven

833
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: year old people. It's a party of people they're around

834
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Speaker 1: forty Okay for the most part, not everybody, but probably

835
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: the majority. So if you have a weekend party and

836
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: it's going Friday, Saturday, Sunday, everyone gets to palm Springs,

837
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: everybody flying in from Philadelphia, the home base of Connie,

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Speaker 1: Fox And and Gonzo. All the old friends, all the

839
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: high school friends, the college buddies, the old friends from

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00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: the old newspaper, the old daily. Uh, you know everyone's

841
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: former co workers. Is what I think you mean to say? Yeah? Whatever,

842
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: and then uh, we are newer friends from the West Coast.

843
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: Very very kind of Colleen to invite us. It was

844
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: a surprise party, and I think Gonzo was very happy

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00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: to see the four of us. Uh. But here's my point,

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00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna rage when they touched down in Palm Springs

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Speaker 1: and they had a great old time West. I think

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00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: you were there Friday. I was there, The Paramore and

849
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I were there Friday night. A lot of cornhole, beer pong. Yes,

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00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: your your theory is correct. The revelry was going strong

851
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: Friday night. Now, if if this was a thirtieth birthday

852
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: surprise weekend, people are flying high on Saturday, probably, yes,

853
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: no doubt. But per my theory, because you don't bounce

854
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: back as quickly as you age, it was a little

855
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: more quiet on Saturday. Uh. And and Mark and I

856
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: and Greg was there when we when we arrived. But

857
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: Mark and I landed with like like a major splash

858
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: on the scene. We're looking to get like messed up

859
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: and have fun and party. It's kind of a hurricane,

860
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: and people weren't really prepared for the hurricane because it

861
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 1: was more the come after the storm situation at the house,

862
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: and it was like, don't play the music too loud,

863
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody kind of everybody, you know, pipe

864
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: down a little bit, people trying to slip keep people

865
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: fell asleep. Um, but we still had a great time.

866
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: It was just a little bit. And then I wondered,

867
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: west because you stayed Sunday, did it return to powerhouse

868
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: levels on Sunday the way it wasn't Friday? Did we

869
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: just completely miss uh? Really the sweet spot to be

870
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: all together? Honest, there are some holes in my memory

871
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: from yesterday. We did have fun, but I can't say

872
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: with scientific fact whether it returned to Friday night. Well,

873
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: the in in fairness to this group that was here before,

874
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: twisted greggul No, no no, no, I'm not. I'm not twisting

875
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: at all. I'm saying a big factor why it calmed

876
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: down is because authorities came over from the middle of

877
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: the afternoon Saturday afternoon revelry. I think even in a

878
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: few hours that I got there before, before you guys,

879
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: it was kind of going Saturday afternoon and then people,

880
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, people came up. We got a couple of knocks.

881
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of knocks on the door. And

882
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: that's really when the chill say. Personally, I think he

883
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: showed up like fireballs from the sky. And I don't care.

884
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: There was some fake it was fake police. It wasn't

885
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: the real. It was like fake police that showed up

886
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: at the door. And I get all that, and I'm

887
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: not the person organizing the party. I would have had

888
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: a whole different mindset. But I came in none of

889
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: these dynamics. Uh convinced me to slow my act down,

890
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: and I had a fantastic time from I have very

891
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: little memory of the entire thing. By both of you guys.

892
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: I thought, thanks West, and we all had fun the

893
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: time we spent together, and it was a great party.

894
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: And Colleen did a great job with a great great

895
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: wife work. That's how I tell please my wife when

896
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: she's on point with things. So this is just great

897
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: white work, wife work. And that was she didn't Actually

898
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: it was months of and you know Gonza doesn't know this.

899
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: He thought that they were flying up to Vancouver and

900
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: then doing a road trip south back to l A,

901
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: which you know also sounds a great idea. I would

902
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: have maybe high have to go to well, I said,

903
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: we have to go, you know, see someone's aunt and

904
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: uncle where you're not so when you find out when

905
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: it really is, she'd be super excited. But I would

906
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: say this, like what months and months of planning she

907
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: put in to this emails, all this stuff and a

908
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: plus job explained to the honest that might not know

909
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: what an email is. I stand behind my name checking

910
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Gonzo everything the hell's Gonzo? All right? So that was

911
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: and then Mark and I drove back and did the

912
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: live pariscope. But you could check out, especially at the

913
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: top of the show. You're probably curious about some of

914
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: the topics. It wasn't just football, was football life and

915
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: we want to do more of those, right, Mark the

916
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: group that we should do some of these. I like

917
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: them a lot. I thought it was quite fun. I

918
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you know. In the in the twenty

919
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: four hours after, I want to sound bite going viral

920
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: two seconds pulled out of I mean, I said that

921
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: completely ridiculous to Greg. That's see, that's exactly should have

922
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: been going during during Mark's uh sublime performance at brunch, Yeah,

923
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Brench was fun. Mark had a lot of statement about

924
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: domestic life. Complicably. I have commentaries about certain things, and

925
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: I unleashed them. Dan desares credit too for dropping about

926
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: twenty five burgers on the grill, doing a great job

927
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: and feeding the people grilled, grilled for the for the

928
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: people I did. I did my duty. I don't think

929
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: that you were adequately uh celebrated for that. Well, I

930
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: just didn't you know. In the I was pounding those burgers.

931
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: They were delicious, good. I'm happy everybody enjoyed their burgers.

932
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: Let's now move on good weekend fun weekend winners and

933
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: losers the first week and West, I didn't even mention

934
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: that I beat you in Cornwall. I was just being

935
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: respectful of you. That's I mean. I don't I don't

936
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: want to get into alibis or anything. So I've just

937
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I'll just pipe down winners and losers of the first

938
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: week of free agency. So let's let's have fun. Let's

939
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: let's kick the ball around. So it's an old podcast expression,

940
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: just kick the ball around. A little bit and share

941
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: some winners and losers, and and Greg, I know you're

942
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: itching to get this thing going, so give me a winner.

943
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's start out. You could throw out a winner

944
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: or loose whatever you want to do, folks, But Greg,

945
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: why don't you just kick us off with the winner. Okay,

946
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fall for the Jaguars this year. Usually I'm

947
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: not the one. Usually I'm not the one falling for

948
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Doesn't make it right that you're doing it

949
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: this time. At this point, I think everyone's just so

950
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: tired of liking what the Jaguars doing the off season.

951
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, you know, wolf, what is

952
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: it girl that sheep that cries wolf? Out of the podcast.

953
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: It's over. I'm retiring, it's over, I'm leaving the Company's

954
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: not the sheep that cried wolf, the boy that cried wolf.

955
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: Sheep can't speak, which is a major problem. Anyway, go ahead.

956
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: So you almost like ignore their moves at this point

957
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: because it's like, Okay, this is just what they do.

958
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't care. I love Clais Campbell. I think Boo

959
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: y A and Jalen Ramsey next to each other. I

960
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: think they have reached the tipping point where the coaching

961
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: staff cannot screw this up. I'm not sure about the offense. Well,

962
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. It doesn't change my mind on boardles.

963
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: This team hasn't won more than five games since two

964
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: thousand and ten. They're a disaster, and I think this

965
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: time they just have so much on the defensive side.

966
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: I think it works and there are a great defense

967
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: and there are a lot more fun to watch this year.

968
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: What you're gonna just drop at three and thirteen, I mean, yeah,

969
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: but you're making a lot of sense, right. I haven't

970
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: been on them these what's the flip side of this though?

971
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Who have that released in the last couple of weeks.

972
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas, Jared Addrick, Devon House, all these guys who

973
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: were the they were the Ballyhood class of two thousand

974
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: fifteen free agency for Jacksonville. And the thing that you

975
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: glossed over not I don't think in in evil way,

976
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: But you said I still don't like Blake Boards. Well,

977
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: he's still the quarterback. He could foul up everything. You

978
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: can't you can't. I hate that. I've said that a

979
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: million times this offseason. But that's they're just they've made

980
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: that decision. I like the other stuff they're doing. All right,

981
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: who's going I'll give you a loser. A loser this

982
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: year's draft eligible quarterbacks because instead of teams not having

983
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: any sort of an answer in the first round for

984
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: that position, and these guys being overvalued and overdrafted, not

985
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: unlike maybe would have happened in two thousand and eleven

986
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: other years where guys who should be third fourth rounders

987
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: are going in the second and first. I think when

988
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: you see the Bears go get Mike Glenn and you

989
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: see the Niners basically tell you that Brian Hoyer is

990
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: going to be their starter this year, and a team

991
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: like the Browns could go get Jimmy g Still that

992
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: the prospect for any of these guys making first round

993
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: money or emerging as sort of the answer going into

994
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: this season for teams has been diminished incredibly over the

995
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: last few weeks that the It was already considered not

996
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 1: a great class, but if you look up and down

997
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: the list, it's hard to pinpoint teams that are going

998
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: to take a first round quarterback. Maybe the Jets, but

999
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: it's six that feels very rich based on guys that

1000
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: were that what we know about these draftable guys. Cleveland

1001
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: at twelve maybe, but there's no indication that they're in

1002
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: love with any of these guys in the draft. And

1003
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: you have to look down at teams like maybe Arizona

1004
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: takes a chance later in round one tops. I just

1005
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's a bad year for quarterbacks

1006
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: and teams this time around, first draft, first round wise

1007
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: aren't falling for it. It could be similar in most cases,

1008
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: it ends up we hear this people talk like this

1009
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: in January, February, March, and then by the time you

1010
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: get to April or May, two or three guys go

1011
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: in the first round anyway or more. But it could

1012
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: be like the what was that the two thousand and

1013
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: thirteen draft where e J Manuel went in the first round,

1014
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: Gino Smith came off the board early in the second round,

1015
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: And it could be that type of draft. But I

1016
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: I can't speak to like the quarterbacks that are coming

1017
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: into the league. But it makes sense because the teams

1018
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: that need the quarterbacks most seems to be taking a

1019
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: different approach right now. I think I nailed that one

1020
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: West winner losers. Oh, let's do two losers for the

1021
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: same reasons. I think the Cardinals found out that the

1022
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: answer to all or nothing is nothing. They looked a

1023
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: year and a half ago like they were about to

1024
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: go on multi year Super Bowl contending run, and now

1025
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: they look like a team that their window passed and

1026
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: by the Bengals very similarly, one of the from one

1027
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: of the strongest rosters in the league now to a

1028
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: blow average roster. I think in Cincinnati and the Cardinals,

1029
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: you lose Calais Campbell, Tony Jefferson, possibly Kevin mintor three

1030
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: of your starters. I that the Cardinals, I I see

1031
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: where you're going with the Bengals. I think losing Klais

1032
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: Campbell hurts. Otherwise, at this point last year, what are

1033
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: we saying about Tony Jefferson? What are we saying about DJ? Sweringer?

1034
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: To me, those are guys that they helped coach up

1035
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: and make look good in their system with that aren't

1036
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: necessarily the most talented guys in the world. Yeah, but

1037
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: they were caught a little bit with cap problems, and

1038
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: then I want to see what else they do, because

1039
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: I like Steve Kim, it's early in their process. They

1040
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: do sometimes some very good value signings. DJ Swereinger is

1041
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: a good example of a guy that they picked for

1042
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: nothing basically and got to be a big time contributor.

1043
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: That's fine, but talents walking out the door, and it's not.

1044
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: There's nothing to replace him. They got caught last year

1045
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: trying to replace guys with d J Humphries and Robert

1046
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: kim DJ and they weren't ready. So to say that

1047
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 1: they have someone ready to come in and beat Tony

1048
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: Jefferson or Clais Campbell, I don't. I don't see that. Well,

1049
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: they're not in the roster yet. It's March. This is

1050
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: also a team that went from being reliant upon their

1051
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: offense to reliant upon their defense last year. And now

1052
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: what's the strength David Johnson and what else I think

1053
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: you're counting on. I agree they're kind of just hoping

1054
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: d J. Humphreys in their line works out, But I

1055
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: think you're counting on their offense becoming great again, or

1056
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: else you wouldn't be excited about Michael Floyd walked out

1057
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: the wind, walked out the door. Actually it was kim DJ.

1058
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: They walked out the window. That's true. Chicken D Chicken

1059
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: D chickim D J, Kim d J. Can you make

1060
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: any impact. Aye or two. You're right about Cincinnati, by

1061
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: the way, I was a proponent. Sometimes I fall into

1062
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: this trap as a sports fan when a team that

1063
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: I thought a lot of kind of gets banged for

1064
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: whatever reason, whether it's bad luck or a bad injury. Uh.

1065
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: And and then you say, oh, let's bring back that

1066
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: team next year, and well, and we'll everything will work out.

1067
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati had a really really good team in and they

1068
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: got banged by the Andy Dalton thumb injury and will

1069
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: never know if they could have broke that playoff streak,

1070
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: uh cold streak. And then last year a couple of

1071
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: things went wrong, and I said, Okay, I'd be willing

1072
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: to look past last year as a last year, bring

1073
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: back that team again and see if they can get

1074
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: things gone. But it seems like, and it feels the

1075
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: way West was explaining it, like they've lost parts now

1076
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: and the offensive line is not as good as Andy Dalton.

1077
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: Gonna ever get back to Dalton if he has a

1078
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: subpar offensive line. I mean, they're just some things that

1079
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: don't feel right. U was Cincinnati. I'd be worried if

1080
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: I was a Bengals fan that your window closed in

1081
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: a in a cruel way in. I got a winner

1082
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: and a loser, all right, groups, and we kind of

1083
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: touched down, uh touched on one of them first middling

1084
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. What a time to be alive. And these

1085
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: two groups, uh connect with each other. Matt Khalil, Russell Okun,

1086
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham, Who am I missing? There's there's there's been

1087
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: so many signs like Watson got decent money, so much

1088
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: money guaranteed money going to guys that are clear. I

1089
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: don't think these teams even think they're the answer. They

1090
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: just think they're better than what they have and they're

1091
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: not gonna find something better than the draft. So what

1092
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: else do you do When you have a ton of money.

1093
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: You just throw it at guys that you probably understand.

1094
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: There's a good chance that doesn't work out. But these

1095
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: guys still get paid despite it. And then you have

1096
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: on the flip side the losers the running back. So

1097
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: if you're a bad offensive lineman and are kind of

1098
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: a middle of the road or underachieving offensive and you

1099
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: can still get paid a lot of money guys without jobs.

1100
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: After a week on Adrian Peterson, Eddie Lazy, Jamal Charles Latavius,

1101
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Murray's not in that group in terms of resume, but

1102
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: the guys that probably could definitely help a team g

1103
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Blunt except I think we're seeing the reflection of what

1104
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: these teams think about the upcoming draft, because it's not

1105
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: considered in any way a good draft for tackles, and

1106
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: so they're so hard to find. If you don't have,

1107
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: you already know if you have that guy on your

1108
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: roster or not. So these guys, they're reaching potentially financially

1109
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: for these available veteran tackles. The flip side, the running

1110
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: back class looks fascinating. So why do you go pay

1111
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: for some guy who's thirty two years old and overpay

1112
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: them when you could draft someone that's on your team

1113
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: for the next five years. There are like this could

1114
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: be all this stuff out. Running backs no longer a

1115
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: first round type of player, which is already where I

1116
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: think that stuff always changes, but there could be a

1117
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: number of first round draft picks running backwise. This time around.

1118
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: It feels it's not even like oh, age thirty fall

1119
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: off the cliff in the running back It's like if

1120
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: you're twenty seven or something, you can't even get work anymore.

1121
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: It feels like it's just a tough position to play

1122
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: and make money. And I think what you said about

1123
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: tackles in offensive alignment so true. And I think it's

1124
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: partly like panic. I think teams do a good job,

1125
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's a reflection of their bad coaching.

1126
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the Broncos said this. They're kind of putting

1127
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: it out there that they thought last year was kind

1128
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: of about bad offensive line coaching. So they think Donald

1129
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: Stevenson can be fine at tackle, and we'll see if

1130
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: that's right or not. But there's no other reason to

1131
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: panic and give Kelvin Beecham that much guaranteed money into

1132
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: year two. Okung and Khalil got twenty five million guaranteed.

1133
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: That's like two That's basically the best you can now

1134
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: do as an NFL player is get two years, maybe

1135
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: a summoned to a third fully guaranteed. And they all

1136
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: got it despite disastrous years. Like it's it's wild. It's

1137
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: at a position where you normally can coach guys up,

1138
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: where if you have a good system, you can find

1139
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: despirate guys and coach them up. Here's a winner about

1140
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: Russell Okung's agent, also known as Russell Okung. He was

1141
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: laughed at in the past four wanting to be his

1142
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: own guy, and like he looks very capable. In fact,

1143
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: it kind of makes you wonder if more players will

1144
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: try to do the same thing down the road. Counterpoint,

1145
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: he got lucky. He signed a bad contract last year,

1146
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: and then because he signed a bad contract, he got

1147
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: cut loose and fell into an amazing market for mid

1148
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: tier offensive lineman where it worked out for him the

1149
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: second time around. Well, he stuck to his guns at

1150
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: least if he if he had packed pedaled and hired

1151
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: an agent or a whole team of people and then

1152
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: he got the money, you know, so will never try

1153
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: that again. It's a reminder, though, I think that luck

1154
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: is probably the number one factor in like if you

1155
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: get your money or not, like if things are Yeah,

1156
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: it depends on the year, it depends on the draft,

1157
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: it depends like what the cap spaces out there. It's

1158
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: like if Alshon Jeffrey, I think got unlucky. You know,

1159
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: I think if he had gone into different situations, he

1160
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: could have done better than nine point five million dollars.

1161
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: And that's what that's just what happened to him. He

1162
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: timed it well, way to go, Oh, come West, give

1163
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: me another winner the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I love to

1164
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: fit with the Sean Jackson his strengths versus what the

1165
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: Buccaneers needed. They didn't need a now Sean Jeffrey. They

1166
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: already have a big body, wide receiver who can jump

1167
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: ball jump ball specialists. They needed a deep threat to

1168
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson will make Jamis Winston a better deep ball thrower.

1169
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: And Chris Baker on the other side of the defensive line.

1170
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: One of the most underrated free agents out there. I

1171
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: think it's time to bring back with the last named

1172
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: Baker the touchdown maker. Wrong position possibly, yeah, but maybe

1173
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: Chris Baker. Chris Baker the touchdown prevent er. Yeah, but

1174
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: like I mean the makers, Like, you know, he's a

1175
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: guy that like not only is he gonna, you know,

1176
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: take down the courterback, he's gonna strip the ball running

1177
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: in he makes touch That's true. It would be very relevant,

1178
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: probably at most one more time in his career. Chris Baker,

1179
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: the one time touchdown maker. Uh, go ahead. I was

1180
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna say, how about how about winners agents again? Just

1181
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: for getting John Lynch into the league. It's just like, hey,

1182
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: you guys want some money. Here's like the United States

1183
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: Bank of Lynch. Just let's overpay like different, Mark gets

1184
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: triple the salary. Let's go to the forty nine is

1185
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: to give us some cash. I would I want to say,

1186
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, we've mentioned them quickly, but think about what

1187
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: the cults were, you know in recent history, Ryan Grigson,

1188
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: not getting along with the head coach, Ryan Grigson, not

1189
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: identifying the team's biggest needs and why either hitting them

1190
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: on them in the draft or in free agency. Chris

1191
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: Ballard had an amazing opening press conference number one. I

1192
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: think he set the tone and they're already talking about players,

1193
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: saying that they're attracted to what he's had to offer,

1194
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: what he said he's about in the organization, and they've

1195
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: quickly started to address. They kept Jack Doyle. That was

1196
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: a good son. They could have lost that guy. You

1197
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: get cheered, you get John Simon. You're starting to address

1198
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: the issues that the cults have had for years under Griggson.

1199
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: Nice move, Mark, Greg You and I were both uh

1200
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: feed away from Ballard in his press Cotta what are

1201
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts about him? I agree with Mark. I I

1202
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: wasn't impressed by him. He's an interesting I don't know

1203
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: there what's happened. There's there's there's a strange energy coming

1204
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: from Chris Ballards investigate. He's got a lot going on.

1205
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: I liked it. There was pressed, but it was there's

1206
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: just a lot going on. We need to dig in more. Well,

1207
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: you have thoughts. You have thoughts too, I think in

1208
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: terms of what we can say, um into a microphone. Yeah,

1209
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: suddenly you two are reading. There was an energy issue,

1210
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: whether good or bad or just you know, something in

1211
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: the air. Hair. Recognize his hair though, it's good hair, solid, hairy,

1212
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: it's no sneety no, But who is here's here's a loser? Uh,

1213
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: the New York Jets and the rest of the a

1214
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: f C East after what the Patriots have done, and

1215
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: the Jets especially because they went all out during this

1216
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: donta High Tower visit. Uh, put happy Birthday donta High

1217
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: Tower on all the screens inside the facility and made

1218
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: him cupcakes. I mean that they had a little tossed

1219
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: out on him. It's very desperate. Is of desperate team.

1220
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,959
Speaker 1: Cupcakes aren't gonna cut it. How do you know? Maybe

1221
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: that's what charges everything that the cupcakes in here? Cupcakes

1222
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: I may really do that. Yeah, that's Uh. I was

1223
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: thinking of breaking news the show with that. But yeah,

1224
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: how many ex Patriots spending their birthday with the New

1225
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: York Jets. Very strange not ex Patriot yet. Well, you

1226
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: know he'll end up back there because the Patriots have

1227
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: manipulated the cap. I think Belichick loves this though. He

1228
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: can convince this team that we're not the super Bowl champions.

1229
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's always his goal, is convincing them we're

1230
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: not defending anything that's nonsense. Every year is a totally

1231
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: new thing, and he's gonna have a very new, different

1232
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: sort of team. It's gonna be an easy sell winner

1233
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: Patriots fans always and forever. Because I had under Losers.

1234
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: You you you stuck to the a f C. East.

1235
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: I put the rest of the NFL in our NFL

1236
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: network kid that we did today. The season's over. Everybody

1237
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: go home, Patriots. I listen. I've been saying it for

1238
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: a year, to cancel the Patriots hashtag say football. It

1239
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: has never been more dire And if there, if there

1240
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: was one year to be relegated from the NFL, as

1241
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: the Jets are this year, I am totally fine with

1242
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: not even like having flirtations. In my mind, about having

1243
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: a good season. Because the season's over. The Patriots gonna

1244
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: be back in the super Bowl next year, and there's

1245
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: almost absolute certainty they win another super Bowl. How exciting

1246
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 1: for the entirely absolute certain what you're doing. We see

1247
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Quarterback just reached his prime. I think

1248
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: you could be right. Yeah, I mean Tom Brady will

1249
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: never get old. I mean, so that's the only chance

1250
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL has And now that he's cheated father time,

1251
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: there's nothing left. But I like how you threw cheated him.

1252
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: Can't wait to get overly excited about some week five

1253
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: Bears win over the Lions. Uh, you know, I like,

1254
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: here's a winner, Carson Wentz. Uh. We talked all year about, oh,

1255
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: this guy's getting banged in a big spot. To these

1256
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers. They they're terrible. I mean, they just they suck,

1257
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: these wide receivers, with the exception of Jordan Matthews. But

1258
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: then alshon Jeffrey Wes. I I know you don't view

1259
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: him as a prototypical number one, but I think he

1260
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: has that that that top level ability tory. And he's

1261
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: better than Nelson Aglor. He's certainly better than Nelson al

1262
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: Tori Smith. I think he is a prime candidate for

1263
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: a bounce back season. Uh if if Carson Wentz developed, so,

1264
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: then you've got Jordan Matthews back in the slot and

1265
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: they could they could do some damage all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: I really like that wide receiver corps and that changed

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Speaker 1: very quickly. Free agency will do that for you. Winner

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, who could have been a Brown Mark, Well,

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Speaker 1: we might have Jimmy Jean a month. If you're a

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Speaker 1: Browns fans, so and I'll have nothing, I'm giving them

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Speaker 1: taking that corner, Mark, I'm coming. I'd be happy for

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Speaker 1: you to not made over the course of three or

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Speaker 1: four months. The Browns have been suffering for twenty plus years.

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Speaker 1: At this point, Jets have had a great time. Jets

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01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: have been to two AFC title games since we worked here.

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Speaker 1: What a long time ago? That was actually one all right,

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01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 1: then one year before we worked here, Okay, go ahead,

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: and another one. I was gonna give the Bears a loser.

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: Any team that gives Marcus Wheat in the same contract

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: as Brandon Marshall is a loser. Like, what a weird contract.

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: They gave the den Sims a ton of money. The Bears,

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01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: I think wanted to spend money and they got caught.

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: They didn't get stuff on Gilmore like they expected. I

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01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: think that Glennon I have no I like the Mike

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01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: Glennon contract. I'm I like Mike Glennon, so I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with that. But the rest of the announced, he's a starter.

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01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: Just so everyone's clear, he is our starter Week one.

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Speaker 1: The the rest of it, though, the Dion Sims and

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01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: Marcus Wheaton, And one of one of the things I've

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Speaker 1: learned the older I got is that it's a little

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: bit you're a little bit disappointed to find out that

1292
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: sometimes corporations just earmark money to be spent and that's

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01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: how people get paid. We got money to spend and

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01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: somebody's getting it. Dion Sims, Marcus never us. It's never

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01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: us what our corporations spending money on us. That there

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01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: could be more of that. Um, I have a I

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: had Malcolm Butler here, we kind of touched on that,

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: but he he can't be happy right now after they

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: they're now paying another quarterback on the roster like a quarterback,

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: and I don't. I can't. I can't hit this any harder. Uh,

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01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: But we've already talked about what it needs to be said,

1302
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: the ultimate loser. I think of this entire free agency process,

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01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: even though he's not technically a free agent yet, is

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01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: gonna be brock Oswiler. The fact that not only uh

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01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: did he get sent away in a trade. Uh, and

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: then now is on the Browns, which I was obviously

1307
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: we know is quarterback purgatory or hell, depending how you

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01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: look at it. And he might not even stay there.

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01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: And on top of it, West, as you alluded to

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Speaker 1: the fact that this report now came out, that's like, oh,

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01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: he might be a bad dude to have in your

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01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: locker room too, that borderline. Maybe quit on his team

1313
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 1: last year. Uh. Nothing good came out of brock Oswaller's life.

1314
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: I opened his personal life. Things are going well, well,

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01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: he's an an incredibly rich individual, but that's not all

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01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: that life comes down to. Enhance the money untall. He's

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01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: got some positive thing is working. But in terms of

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01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: the first week Tall and Rich got most of the

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01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: box has checked. Most of those are, like Bill O'Brien said,

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:19,839
Speaker 1: he checks every box. That's anybody got something else, like

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: like the g ms and corporations. We don't have to

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: force it. The rest of mine secret. I'm waiting this

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01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: whole segment for Greg to start trashing the Redskins. Somebody

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01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: trashing Well, we've done that every episode essentially. What I mean,

1325
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: I like to thrill prior move at least, But yeah,

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: we've done that. They they've They're an embarrassment right now.

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01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: They know that, all right. I don't think they know that.

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01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: They probably they're not even fighting back at at at

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 1: people calling them these sort of names right now. I

1330
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: think they're just trying to get past it. I've heard

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01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: multiple locals in Washington, d C. Judge this last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks as the low point of the of the

1333
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: Engil Snyder Wow. And there's competition for that and I

1334
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: and on the football side, I mean, Terrell McClean and

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01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: Stacy McGee getting huge money was curious too. It was

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: kind of weird. I guess I was a little surprised

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01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: that they stuck with Scott McLuhan's free agency board. I

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: read that in several places that they stayed true to

1339
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: his board. That seems dirt. It's probably just that is

1340
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: input from not just Scott mcluen, but other people too.

1341
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: And then what do you reorganize in the course of

1342
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: three or four hours with with bullets flying, It's it's

1343
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: hard to do. I forgot I did have one more winner,

1344
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: but winner NFL Network producers, because the Tony Romo thing

1345
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: is just still hanging out there. We can hammer, ohway

1346
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: on all the Romo. It's just sitting there losing the world.

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Speaker 1: There you go, winners and losers of the first week

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Speaker 1: of free agency. That's it for today's show. We'll be

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01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. Three shows this week, so tune in

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: while the show on Wednesday and another show on Friday.

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: Um and I'm I'm gonna tease it here and it

1352
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: maybe this week, it maybe next week, but pretty soon.

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01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: Back on the Around the NFL podcast, one of the

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01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: most popular fans segments ever done on the show makes

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01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: its return the very near future. I know what it is,

1356
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tease. What's keep it where

1357
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,959
Speaker 1: it is? I won't say a word in the shadows.

1358
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 1: Do you know what it was? I have a feeling.

1359
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: Mark and I both believe it's the same thing. And

1360
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: we both know, Okay, great, we're gonna bring Greg Hardy back.

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy's sitting in In fact, the full time member,

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: a new hero, Greg No, all right, that's it. So

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Speaker 1: thanks to everybody for listening. This is Dan Hands signing

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: up for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the Boss, the new

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01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: Money behind the Glass. How did you get all that money?

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Speaker 1: Listeners until Wednesday,