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Speaker 1: I'll say, well, let's stop talking about streaming and start

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Speaker 1: talking about something important, which is our guest for this episode,

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Speaker 1: Jason aka Prop the best guy here. I'm so we're

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Speaker 1: back back baby, back in the New York mood. Not really.

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Speaker 2: We got photos back from the live show we did

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Speaker 2: last year, and I was just looking at at it

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Speaker 2: and it's the three of us. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: I gotta frame this ship.

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Speaker 3: We look like.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like our family photo album. I need it.

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Speaker 3: I love you guys, listen.

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Speaker 4: It is a blessing and honor to be here to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: I was just over here jamming some Barrington Levy calling

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Speaker 4: ice murderers.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying I have.

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Speaker 2: I have shocking news to start this episode.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's that.

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Speaker 2: The pastor of this episode is not a man.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're doing We got a lady bastard this,

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Speaker 1: We've got. Things are dark in the old United States

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Speaker 1: these days, so I figured we'd take a trip up

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Speaker 1: north to our our normal and mentally healthy neighbors where

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Speaker 1: nothing crazy ever happens. Obviously in Canada. And let's talk

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Speaker 1: about one of Canada's most notable bastards of the moment,

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Speaker 1: Queen Romana Didulo, the Queen of Canada, which does not

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Speaker 3: Ka who.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So she she is talking about. She's essentially a

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Speaker 1: Queanon influencer who's starting in like twenty twenty one, declared

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Speaker 1: ever since, living in like an RV caravan with all

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, on behalf of everyone who's just nervous.

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Speaker 4: System is beat to crap. Man, Thank you, thank you

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Speaker 4: for giving me some fun.

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Speaker 1: This absurd mystical creature, no gicide, no real body count.

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Speaker 3: She's oh man, I need to do so much.

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Speaker 2: She's you know, and Robert scripts it says she might

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Speaker 2: be an alien.

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Speaker 1: Like I love it. She might be an alien, she

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Speaker 1: might be psychic. But she's definitely a cult leader, right,

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Speaker 1: thanks me. She's not a good one, which we don't

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Speaker 4: I was here for the the Thomas Jefferson's I was

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Speaker 3: I was here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, fun's good. Yes, yeah, we have a

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Speaker 1: your insane will, this is for you. You know, we cannout.

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Speaker 1: You can't all be all Ron Hubbard, can all have

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Speaker 4: You know again, I appreciate you saying this. This is

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Speaker 4: like the the DEI affinity group of That's right, bastards.

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Speaker 1: And trust I appreciate this.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, it's just like, listen, man, all

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Speaker 4: of us don't start off you feel me, Like we

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Speaker 4: all don't start off with the privilege of being a

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Speaker 4: the money endowment where you can just buy land, you

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Speaker 4: feel me. Jim Jones, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 4: some of us got to get it out the mud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to like get people okay with the

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Speaker 1: you know that's enough. You're valid as a could leader.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're telling Romana. You know, I get

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Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: If we talk about Canada, I mean they got stuff

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Speaker 4: they're kind of like they kind of really don't got

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Speaker 4: nothing to complain about, you know, So to get somebody

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Speaker 2: You feel like they have something to complain about.

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Speaker 1: They've got played about largely the cult leader. The Coles

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Speaker 3: Yeah, car Kenny already took care of that.

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Speaker 4: I'd also like to say that, like not that I

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Speaker 1: He was a good little Davos speech.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got his bars OFFNA appreciate that. He was like,

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Speaker 1: And again that's part of why I support the Queen

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Speaker 1: way better. But that doesn't mean there aren't Canadian cult leaders.

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Speaker 1: And today we're going to talk about one right now.

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Speaker 1: As I noted, Americans are better at cults. And so

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Speaker 1: an American cultic movement, The I AM Activity. And it's

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Speaker 1: Am exactly the im activity. Yes, you have to say,

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Speaker 1: So cropped up during the peak of the Great Depression

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Speaker 1: their origins and the Great Depression, and the I AM

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Speaker 1: movement has its roots in the city of Mount Shasta,

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Speaker 1: which is the least surprising thing on earth. You've ever

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Speaker 3: The Californians in the chat Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they're already in cults.

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Speaker 4: You already know liked you, you feel, you feel the

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Speaker 1: Like you live in Mount Shasta, you've already been told

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Speaker 3: Over They guy Rica, brother.

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Speaker 1: It's a lovely town. But Mount Shasta is a big

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Speaker 1: It was a new one kind of Yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 3: Oh, I gotta know, she's a pretty mountain.

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Speaker 3: Shasta would just like white women with dreadlocks.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's there's them there too, but they didn't

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's that's as solid evidence as you're

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a triple source confirmation.

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Any newspaper would print that. Yeah. Anyhow, the

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Speaker 1: root of the proud tradition of kookiness in Mount Shasta

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Speaker 1: hiking on Mount Shasta, received a vision from Saint Germain. Now,

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Speaker 1: probably Catholic. Some Saint visited him, right, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, Catholics are always talking about the Saints visiting them.

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Speaker 1: That's not what Saint Germain is. If you look up

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Speaker 1: is a kind of elderflower liqueur that you've probably seen

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And Guy Ballard is yeah one of these

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Speaker 1: you know, and he says, basically, Saint Germain told me

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Speaker 1: that's the basis of the I Am Activity, right, which

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Speaker 3: Listen like a tribe call quest.

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Speaker 1: on the website New Religious Movements dot org. The core

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Speaker 1: practices such as decree, spoken invocations, and affirmations, followers aim

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Speaker 1: Ballad's teachings also incorporated elements of American patriotism and nationalism.

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Speaker 4: This is so there's so many like like uh, seasonings

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Speaker 3: Bro, Like let me tell you something, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: And that's it's worth it. As you pointed out, the

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Speaker 1: and that's what you know, it's possible. We don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's like I don't know about your faith, buddy. You

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Speaker 1: Because it's it's one of those things. I can imagine

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Speaker 1: But what you pulled out of them, that's chicken gizzard.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna say a lot about fighting the Chinese. This

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Speaker 4: I'm part of the culture. So there are things that

436
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Speaker 4: I could participate in that I can only participate in

437
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Speaker 4: because one of my moms were Filipino.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she is did you Loo. She doesn't inphas

439
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Speaker 1: size that part of her heritage very much. She'll talk

440
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Speaker 1: a little bit about her grandmother, but she's not she's

441
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Speaker 1: not massively like she's more Canadian, I think than anything else.

442
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Speaker 1: Because she leaves she's very young, right, and it doesn't

443
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Speaker 1: seem like she has a ton of contact with her

444
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Speaker 1: her family over there, although that's kind of unclear to me.

445
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Speaker 3: Yeah, does she go to Toronto?

446
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Speaker 1: No? No, Vancouver?

447
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: Oh kill her if she.

448
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Speaker 4: Goes to Van Yeah, I was like, cause those are

449
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Speaker 4: two very pretty big, like Filipino populations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't anyway, she may have been closer

451
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Speaker 1: to her family there. We get very little about her

452
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Speaker 1: life before she comes on the scene as a cultier,

453
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Speaker 1: but she doesn't talk much about anything to do with

454
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Speaker 1: her like background, really like because she's very she has

455
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Speaker 1: a vested interest in not having you think about her

456
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: before she was the queen, right like that that's kind

457
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Speaker 1: of why so I just there's not a lot to

458
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Speaker 1: say about that account, right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Her father

459
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Speaker 1: was a lawyer and an engineer, but he dies when

460
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Speaker 1: she's ten. Her mom dies a year later, and so

461
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Speaker 1: she's raised by her grandmother for a couple of years,

462
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Speaker 1: but not long after her parents die. When she's fifteen,

463
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Speaker 1: she moves to Vancouver and she's raised by other relatives there.

464
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Speaker 1: It's kind of unclear, you know, how much of this

465
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Speaker 1: is her grandparents, so they move with her. I actually

466
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Speaker 1: just don't have that information. And that's really about all

467
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Speaker 1: we've got as refers to her early life. We don't

468
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Speaker 1: have any sort of real documentation about her outside of this.

469
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Speaker 1: Sarteeshi and a journalist from Vice, Max Lammereaux, are kind

470
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Speaker 1: of the two people who have really delved into her

471
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: background a lot. So I am, I haven't. There's a

472
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Speaker 1: couple of other things I found just from like shit

473
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: she's written online, but most of what you're going to

474
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Speaker 1: find about her is from those two. And there's just

475
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Speaker 1: not a lot that's known yet about what was she

476
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Speaker 1: doing the first like forty years of her life. Right,

477
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Speaker 1: You know, who doesn't have a public life because they

478
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Speaker 1: live only to serve you and to bring you joy.

479
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: It is known. Yeah, the products and services that support

480
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Speaker 1: this podcast, that's right.

481
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Speaker 3: Glorious.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and we're back. So when Ramana next appears

483
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Speaker 1: on the public record, she's a Canadian citizen and an entrepreneur.

484
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Speaker 1: She seems to have run a couple of different companies,

485
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Speaker 1: and I know Mac Lamora of Vice is someone he's

486
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: reported heavily on her, and he seems to think these

487
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: businesses that she had were some kind of con but

488
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Speaker 1: the specifics of maybe how she was trying to con

489
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: people are unclear. That's at least how I interpret something

490
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Speaker 1: that he said on the qan on Anonymous podcast. Mac,

491
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Speaker 1: if I got your meaning wrong, I apologize. That seems

492
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Speaker 1: credible to me, although again we don't really know what

493
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Speaker 1: she was doing with these businesses. We have very little

494
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, so Teshi right side, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well hold on side.

496
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Speaker 6: Note like.

497
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Speaker 3: QAnon feels like a fever dream right now.

498
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Speaker 1: It's still there, but yeah, I have passed it too.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, wait, that happened at work? Yeah,

500
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Speaker 4: because our nature of work, we know it's still kind

501
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Speaker 4: of there. But I was just like brod Info's wet

502
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Speaker 4: to the They storm the capitol.

503
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: They stormed the capitol. They won, a lot of them

504
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: got into positions of power, and they seem almost to

505
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: like I think a lot of the folks who have

506
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: gotten into power who started out being q pilled and

507
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: east and chunk of them have had to even pull

508
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: back somewhat because once you're in office, you can't like

509
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: there's not a lot that you can carry further from

510
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: a lot of the qan on shit, Right.

511
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Speaker 3: That's a real job. Once you get to it's like,

512
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: this is actually a real job.

513
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: I got like stuffed. I'm in a griftin too, but

514
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: like I can't. I can't keep talking about how all

515
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: of my colleagues that I work with every day have

516
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: secretly been executed. Like that doesn't make much sense with

517
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Speaker 1: this guy.

518
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do love I do love the idea of

519
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 4: a conspiracy theorist, you know, as pilled as that. And

520
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: then you get to finally, like the deputy director of

521
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: the I don't know, interior for agriculture, and you're like, oh,

522
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 4: it's just spreadsheets. Yeah, everybody here is just doing spreadsheets.

523
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: And now I'm one of them, and now what do

524
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Speaker 4: I what do I do?

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Speaker 1: It's the sad thing when you really come to like,

526
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: growing up, I was a conspiracy theorist, not like in

527
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: a literal believer way, but as like a fandom. I

528
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed the conspiracy phantom. Right, it's fun.

529
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Speaker 3: One of my OG's.

530
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Speaker 4: Ok, this is a diversion, but it's very funny. One

531
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Speaker 4: of my OG's told me a joke recently, and like

532
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: he called me, my man Jonathan, he called me, he said,

533
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: he I got a joke for you. He goes, Okay,

534
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: this conspiracy theorist dies and he goes to have it

535
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 4: and he's sitting down and he's talking to Jesus, and

536
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: Jesus says, hey, you know what, ask me anything, and

537
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: the guy goes, all right, JFK, what happened? And then

538
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: Jesus goes, dude, it was Lee Harvey Oswald, third story,

539
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: single shooter, right out the window. He got him three shots,

540
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 4: all from him, and the conspiracy theorist goes, man, So

541
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 4: this thing goes higher than I even thought. Think Jesus

542
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: is in on the conspiracy also anyway, Yeah, yeah, I

543
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: was looking at Sophie.

544
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Speaker 1: I mean I've been saying that for years, because who

545
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: else would have had the power to drop someone like JFK,

546
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, of course, but I so like, I mean,

547
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: obviously Bernie Sanders, but of course, of course you get

548
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: to like you get to this point where you study

549
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: the world enough to realize that, like, there are conspiracies,

550
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: but they're all as you said, they're mostly guys with spreadsheets.

551
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Even the conspiracies are like, they're not usually fun. They're

552
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: like some guys hiding a bunch of financial crimes on

553
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: a spreadsheet, or like hiding the fact that they're bribing

554
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: people to put in place a law that increases their

555
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: bottom line by five and maybe that also kills a

556
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: few hundred thousand people, but they're doing it because it

557
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: makes them like eight percent wealthier, right, Yeah, and.

558
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: It's only usually like four of them, yeah, like and

559
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: nobody doesn't really know the whole story except for maybe

560
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: two of them, dudes. But the idea that like, yeah,

561
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: seventy countries have agreed that we're gonna lie about the

562
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: shape of the earth, like seventy like you know what

563
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm saying, for sixty years.

564
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they couldn't again, like they couldn't keep

565
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: Like we're seeing the actual conspiracy now with like fucking

566
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Alex Pretti's murder right where yeah, we all see the

567
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: video of this man who is completely unarmed and was

568
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: never violent, just getting executed by an ice agent and

569
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: then the government's like, no, he nearly killed him. He

570
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: nearly killed that. And my friend is a conspiracy. But

571
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: it's not like inner, it's not fun. It's just like,

572
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's just a brute force of evil just lying.

573
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: And that's like what conspiracy. It's never seven different kinds

574
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: of alien have gotten together to like hide the fact

575
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: that the world leaders are drinking the blood of children

576
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: in order to get high.

577
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally say the exact same thing with Renee Good.

578
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: She was gonna just gonna run this man over literally.

579
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: No Epstein right where it's like, yeah, there was a conspiracy,

580
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: but you guys looked the other way at this dude's

581
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: shady financial dealings because he provided them with fifteen year

582
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: old girls, right, like that, that's pretty conspiracy. There's no aliens, Yeah.

583
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: Pretty simple.

584
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: It's not blood sacrifices, it's young women. It's, yes, exactly

585
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: the basic debauchery that we all know.

586
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's not very fun, which is why

587
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: people like Romana Dulo have juice. Right, It's why all

588
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: these conspiracy theory figures, why there's an appeal to them,

589
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: is that, like, anything's better than realizing how fucked up

590
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: the world is in such a banal way and how

591
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: small your power is to actually do anything as an

592
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: individual so you might as well believe that, like this

593
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: guy who you met living in a fucking squat is

594
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: actually secretly in touch with the alien masters of the

595
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: universe and is the secret King of America or whatever.

596
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: And if you just follow him on an RV, you know,

597
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: that's way more fun.

598
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: So much fun.

599
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: Getting back to Romana here, right. Christine Starteghi has charted

600
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: her earliest online presence, which seems to be an October

601
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: two thousand and six article in a business publication that

602
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: describes her as the president and CEO of Global Solutions Canada.

603
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: The company description makes it seem like a rinky dink

604
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: budget version of Sales Force. You know, it's a company

605
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: you have that provides you with hr resources for your

606
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: startup and their specific specialty was recruiting engineers and geologists

607
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: for the oil and gas industry. And again, maybe she

608
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: tried to make a real business and it just failed.

609
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Speaker 1: I am assuming there was an angle here, There was

610
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Speaker 1: some way in which this was fraudulent because of who

611
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: she is, right.

612
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Speaker 4: Yeah, me and my buddies try to come up with

613
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Speaker 4: this like a sentence to describe, like what some sort

614
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: of company like that, Oh, Global Solutions LLC.

615
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: What do we do?

616
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Speaker 1: What we do Global Solutions lzie sounds real.

617
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, what we do is we try to integrate

618
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: and synergize between two different operating systems to make sure

619
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: that we can streamline the the processes for the We

620
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: just we synergies, like just just putting together a bunch

621
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Speaker 4: of words.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up synergy because during our first

623
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Speaker 1: meetings with Netflix, they told us how important synergy was

624
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: to them, and I said, guys, I love sinning. I'm

625
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: sinning right now. I got so much synergy. I've got

626
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: endless energy to sin. Never met sin out of me? Yeah,

627
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: for lea reasons, never it happens. So Global Solutions, Geology,

628
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: salesforce business whatever. That really was her subsequent venture. She

629
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: has a series of real estate corporations that are described

630
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Speaker 1: by Starteghi as shell corporations. And I have to assume

631
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Speaker 1: that's definitely some sort of of course, right, Startegi concludes,

632
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: did you lo also has two additional open businesses in

633
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: London and Wales. Uh. No, substantial activity with these corporations

634
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: is known. Success in the business world seems to have

635
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: eluded her. Right, She's not successful, She's not making money.

636
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what does your real estate company do? Oh well,

637
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Speaker 3: we we.

638
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Make sure stuff mostly the.

639
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: Integration of you know, our our HR systems and our

640
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: you know, you know.

641
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Send me fifteen hundred bucks and you'll find.

642
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Out things and I'll help you out.

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Speaker 6: Man.

644
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: We could set you guys up, you know.

645
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you guys getting a gang of emails that

646
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: are clearly written by AI about how you can synergize

647
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: your companies.

648
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: I get a lot of oh yeah, I get a

649
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: lot of them from PR people being like, here's an

650
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: article for your website that we think your readers would love.

651
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: You can post it, and it's just like talking about

652
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Speaker 1: how cool the CEO of this company that's going to

653
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: fail in five months is. I love PR emails.

654
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: Oh man, They're so great.

655
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: And then I'll get a follow up page just making

656
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: sure you saw our last email. And I'm like, I

657
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: saw it go into my spam fold.

658
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, so, I can't judge you. I have

659
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: in my secondary email forty nine thousand done ready emails.

660
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: So oh yes, like, you know, for the for the

661
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: listeners and observers, like the the bit about Robert is

662
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: he's actually a very good businessman. And it's it's pretty

663
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: funny to see you.

664
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Click Sophie businessman.

665
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, let me finish, Let me finish.

666
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: Is when I see like the and the switch is

667
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: so quick because Sophie is like cutthroat, this will be

668
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: here for this what we're finna do right?

669
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: Like this, what I need?

670
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: This? The bag where my money? Talk to me with

671
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: my money ready, right, that's Sophie. And then but you

672
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 4: don't realize because you know Robert's being goofy, and all

673
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: of a sudden he clicks in and he says, well, actually,

674
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: I think that really if we set up and you're

675
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: just like whoa like so I just want to like

676
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: put that out there, like Robert got a switch he got.

677
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: Did I get my MBA from Harvard?

678
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: No?

679
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: No, no, let me into Harvard? I had like a

680
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: two point eight GPA. What do you think they let

681
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: me in?

682
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 5: Did you?

683
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: Did you see my face when you started this? And

684
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: it's almost like wait, but Provert's a fantastic business partner

685
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: because he listens to me.

686
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a fantastic business partner because I let Sophie

687
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: run things while I write about the Queen of Canada,

688
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: much much like Bill Gates. So from other interviews conducted

689
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: with people who saw her, and from other interviews conducted

690
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: with people who saw the queen in her home prior

691
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: to announcing that she was the queen, we can say

692
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: that Didulo did not live well. People have described her

693
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: his living in squalor and maybe having been something of

694
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: a hoarder. She was I don't know if she was

695
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: like poor poor, but she's like not, She's like lower

696
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: middle class at best in terms of like income level.

697
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: She seems to be struggling financially. Right, we don't have

698
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: a lot of context here, but this is people who

699
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: saw her house were like, she was not living well.

700
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: She had a room, it was crowded and not very cleaner,

701
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: and eyes like she's like, this is someone who's doing

702
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: about as well as you'd expect someone who's orphaned at

703
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: eleven and then has to immigrate to her new country

704
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: to be doing right. Like, She's not someone who's living

705
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: in a rarefied air. She's struggling, and she does not

706
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: seem to have a particular position of respect or to

707
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: be very well known by her neighbors. Right, and part

708
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: because very few of them have come forward, is she's

709
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: gotten more famous to even say negative things about her,

710
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: which to me kind of suggests maybe she just maybe

711
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: in this previous areas of her life, she was, if

712
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: not like a shut in, then just not someone who

713
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: was very much a part of the social life in

714
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: her community. Right, Maybe someone who was very isolated given

715
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: her proclivities, we can say, probably someone who spent way

716
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: too much time on the internet, watching YouTube videos and

717
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: reading articles about conspiracy theories. Right.

718
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: I feel like she was in her own head for

719
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: most of.

720
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: Her life, just like the vibey idiot. Yeah right, that's

721
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: the vibe. I kind of get vices. Mac Lamoreau has

722
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: noted that in one live stream, she's claimed to have

723
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: been homeless at one point and to have slept on

724
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: the floor of a friend's nail salon. I don't see

725
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: any real reason to doubt this. It seems pretty she

726
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: lies about a lot, but that's that's I've known friends

727
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: who've been in the same situation. You would they had

728
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: to sleep on a few floors, you know, for her,

729
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: as for millions of other people in similar situations, the

730
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty COVID nineteen pandemic offered a lifeline. That year,

731
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: she took the lockdown and the attendant explosion in conspiracy

732
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: culture and fringe political organizing as an impetus to start

733
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: her own political party, the Canada First Party of Canada

734
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: and that of Canada, because what it could be a

735
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: Canada First Party of I'm going to start the Canada

736
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: First Party of America. I guess politics should be entirely

737
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: geared towards what's best for Canada. First. Off of them

738
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: are nukes. You know, they're better suited to them. And

739
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: you know what, you guys can have Maine.

740
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: It reminds me of we went to the R and

741
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: C and they had all those signs everywhere that said

742
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: make America great once again.

743
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: You're like, didn't we already do it?

744
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: You just added once?

745
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

746
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: No, the Canada First Party of cant And she's seeing

747
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: the Party of Canada.

748
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: The Canada First Party of Canada, the Los Angeles Angels

749
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: of Anaheim.

750
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Glorious, She's seeing all these. Number one, she's stuck inside, yes,

751
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: but everyone's stuck inside, and she's seeing traffic explode. Probably

752
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: just because of the things that she knows and brings up.

753
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: She is familiar with a bunch of weird little particularly

754
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: a lot of alien focused conspiracy worlds. She talks a

755
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: lot about like the hidden secret bases that the Army's

756
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: supposed to run, which we talked about in our UFO episodes.

757
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: This starts out in like New Mexico because people are

758
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: trying to hide the results of some like nuclear tests,

759
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: but it's turned into today there's people believe like the

760
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: Getty and Los Angeles has like a deep underground military

761
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: base where they're like taking adrenachrome out of children. She's

762
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: she's big into all that. She believes in med beds,

763
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: which is this, these extraterrestrial aliens have these beds that

764
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: will heal any sickness, and they're trying to give them

765
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: to us, but some group of evil elites is keeping

766
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: them away from us. Right, she leaves all of that stuff.

767
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: Was I on this was I on the show for

768
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 4: the for the for the alien conspiracy ones when.

769
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: You don't remember who our guests.

770
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: Was, Yeah, I remember us doing it.

771
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: And then and how like the CIA or the Yeah,

772
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: the government was like because it was like.

773
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: The d i A or the military intelligence even that

774
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: was fucking around more than the CIA with this.

775
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: And they kept feeding secrets the Whomeboy.

776
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, now you're you're tapped into the conspiracy.

777
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: Brother, you might be on it, bro, you might be

778
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: on the something.

779
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so great.

780
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a few Sometimes it's like you all, like

781
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 4: the reality is if he wasn't such like a flaming

782
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: piece of vomit, like Trump is hilarious so far.

783
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's funny, man.

784
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: But if he wasn't so evil, you'd be the funny

785
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: so evil.

786
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: So for the government to be like you wait, you

787
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: think Area fifty one is aliens?

788
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you.

789
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: Some more like that. Fun he's even more going on.

790
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, you don't even know to have homeie.

791
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: So that's a chunk of the conspiracy culture that she

792
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: seems to be most inundated in. And during twenty twenty,

793
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: she's watching traffic to all of the different people that

794
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: she watched all these videos. It's all going up, and

795
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: she's seeing, you know, she's watching the news. She's seeing

796
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: the protests and stuff all over the in the US.

797
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: But she's also seen like the anti lockdown protests in general.

798
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: It's hard not if you have and I think most

799
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: people who have cult leader Jews have a kind of

800
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: sixth sense for timing for the lick yep, and I

801
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: think for her, it's like, this is the time to

802
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: try something. People are uniquely vulnerable and I can maybe

803
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 1: get it and maybe change my shitty life if I guess,

804
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: if I can rally a following around me. So she

805
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: starts the Canada First Party of Canada. Know Your Meme

806
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: describes the party platform as generally opposed to progressive, socialist

807
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: and liberal ideologies, as well as what it describes as

808
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: the U wins and globalist plans to turn Canada into

809
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: a third world country. The website for the party seems

810
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: to have been created sometime during the early summer, and

811
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: by August it's telegram page had about seventeen thousand members,

812
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: which probably didn't translate to more than a few hundred

813
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: Canadians who would call themselves members of the party. But

814
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: first off, for someone who's living alone in like a

815
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: in hoarding and like a tiny room, suddenly got seventeen

816
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: thousand people on your telegram page saying they believe it,

817
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: that's got to be addicting, right, That's like.

818
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: That's got to feel amazing.

819
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: That's like giving someone with a congenital predisposition towards addictive

820
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: behavior their first hit a heroin where they're like, oh.

821
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: No oh, no oh, changed, Yeah, this is what I've

822
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: been waiting.

823
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've been looking for a drug to destroy

824
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: my life. Thank god, my lord.

825
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: You know it's also interesting too, like.

826
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 4: And it's like, this is the part about like con

827
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: artists and hustlers that I still like, I still kind

828
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: of trip out on because I'm like, Okay, so when

829
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: I think about, like, there are some I can think

830
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: of three dudes that I grew up with that I'm like,

831
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 4: I have known for over twenty years, and I realize

832
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: I know nothing about you, Like there's a way that

833
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 4: they and and there there are a lot of them

834
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 4: are like like hustlers, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

835
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: but there was there's a way for them to like

836
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: really the knowledge of knowing how much to tell you

837
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: and how much not to tell you, and but you

838
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: but it feel like it feels like we're friends, you

839
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I do believe, like you

840
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, this person like thinks one of

841
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: the homies. I remember it was like I looked up

842
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: like this dude was in Cuba. I was like, what

843
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: are you like he's visiting Cuba, like he just went

844
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: to Like you know what I'm saying, I'm like, you

845
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: went to go visit Like I'm like, I have known

846
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: you for twenty years, you know. I mean like I've

847
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: been to your house and I realize I don't really

848
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: know you, you know, So I think that there's but

849
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: there's this sense of like you said, just like sentence

850
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: to know, like time to talk, time to shut up,

851
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: time to go, time to get out, Like I notice

852
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 4: this the moment.

853
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always it's it's always interesting when you run

854
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: into people who have that like skill for for leaving

855
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: some stuff on the table. I had an older friend

856
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties, like I was a

857
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: lot older, and we would we did like a biking

858
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: club and stuff together and would hang out. And I'd

859
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: known him for like two years, and I don't even

860
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: remember how it came out, but he was just like, yeah,

861
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: I did three tours in Vietnam. What Like what's like?

862
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 6: What?

863
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't you never mentioned anything like three is

864
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot. Most people didn't do that. Yeah that says something.

865
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: What Yeah, but yeah, that's so even us knowing like

866
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: what we know about her and then how much we

867
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: don't know about her is like, yeah, you know, but

868
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 4: but I feel like the people that are able to

869
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: stay in the hustle are the ones that don't get

870
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: addicted to the attention.

871
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: Like, well, when they get the attention, that's going to

872
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: be the downfall.

873
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I think, because I think most

874
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: cote leaders are addicted to the attention. But you're right,

875
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: there's something, there's a degree, there's a degree of separation

876
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: you have to have from the bullshit in order to

877
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: be like el Ron Hubbard. I think always knew exactly

878
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: what the bullshit was, right, and that's why he had

879
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: the staying power and the success he did. It's not

880
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: that he wasn't deluded about certain things, but I think

881
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: he was generally pretty aware of what reality was and

882
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: was just conscious consciously and he loved the attention. He

883
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: loved being worshiped, but he it never I mean it

884
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: did near the end of his life. It eventually did

885
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of overwhelm him, But for a very long time

886
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: he was able to keep enough of an understanding of

887
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: reality a distance to stay ahead of the authorities, right,

888
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: ya say, even about and I want to say, like

889
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: al Ron Hubbard was perfectly sane and rational. No no, no no,

890
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: but he kept enough, he had enough of an understanding

891
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: of what reality was that he didn't fall victim to

892
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: his own bullshit. He lived a long life and died free.

893
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: You know.

894
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing.

895
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: If you can hold on to something that's like this,

896
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: I know is this is what I really am. You know,

897
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying this is why I really am.

898
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: This is work.

899
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

900
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 5: So.

901
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: On November twenty, twenty twenty, Ramana uploaded the first YouTube

902
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: video to the Canada First Party of Canada's YouTube account,

903
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: featuring a song that made it sound like every movie

904
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: trailer from a decade earlier. The video otherwise had minimum featured,

905
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: minimally competent editing and fairly clear audio, which sets her

906
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: apart from a lot of people trying to like make

907
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: fake vanity political parties. In this time, Sophie's gonna play

908
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: you a little bit of the Canada First Party for

909
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Canada's ad here so you can this is her first,

910
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 1: her first documented grift, So we gotta see this.

911
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: Yes, but before you play this, like, I'm I'm gonna

912
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: laugh every time you say that Canada First Party.

913
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: Of Canada, Party of Canada. I'm a laugh every time.

914
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 6: Okay, Hello Canada. I'm Romana Didulo. I'm the founder and

915
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 6: the leader of Canada. First, it's time for us to

916
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: clean up the swamp in Ottawa, to put an end

917
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 6: the corruption, criminality, incompetence and lives in the government.

918
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: See, you know, she is not pretty all what I

919
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: think she would be. No, no, And that's the thing.

920
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: She's not very charismatic. She's not a great speagrece. It's

921
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: it's zero riz. There's again, there's effort, because that's a

922
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: competently it's not like unclear the audios, it's not like good,

923
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: but you're not. I've listened to a lot of these.

924
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: Usually the audios worse and stuff like this. Usually the

925
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: editing's worse. Like it was like she hit a minimum

926
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: bar of competence. Yeah, which is how I generally describe

927
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: her as a cult leader. She's not a good one.

928
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: She's a minimally competent cult leader. And what's interesting is

929
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: that she's managed to get a lot more attention than

930
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: you'd expect given her generally low level of competence, which

931
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: I find compelling.

932
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: It's also a to me that like, this isn't like

933
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: she's using the exact same Like it's like this is

934
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: a bite, this is currently what we're saying, Like there's

935
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: already currently this. Do you copy my whole flow bar

936
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 4: for bar, Like it's already currently We're already doing the

937
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: drain this.

938
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: Swamp, Like yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just a ripoff of

939
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: Trump is populism mixed with you know, Trump is objectively charismatic.

940
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: You may not like it, most of us don't, but

941
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: he's to the people. He's able, a lot of people do,

942
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people pick up what he's putting down.

943
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: He can give us, you know, you know he used

944
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: to be better when he was younger. But he can

945
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: give a speech. She's not good at that. Right, she

946
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: has no stage presence. It's one of the least energetic

947
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: examples of vo I've heard in the right wing populist

948
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: politics game. And this is kind of the big mystery

949
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: about her. Right, she doesn't have any money, she doesn't

950
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: have any power, and she's boring us. How why is

951
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: anyone talking about the quate of Canada?

952
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: Right?

953
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Because she's she's had a lot more of an impact

954
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: than you'd guess, given all this, and I think the

955
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: answer I have to give is sheer persistence. She seems

956
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: to have committed to launching a career for herself out

957
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 1: of the right wing fever swamps in the early days

958
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, and she's stuck to it tenaciously. I

959
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: can imagine that watching the first four years of Trump's presidence,

960
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: her first three years had given her a lot of

961
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: ideas as to content and made it clear that there

962
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: was no bottom floor of credibility as long as you

963
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: hated vaccines in the un right, That's all she needed

964
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: to say, and it didn't matter how much bullshit she

965
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: was otherwise. Right. That's what works with these This first

966
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: video only gets about twenty four thousand views in eighteen months,

967
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: and the Canada First Party of Canada sputters out and

968
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: there's not really anything memorable anecdote wise about it. They

969
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: don't have any fun moments, they don't have any big conventions.

970
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: It's a failed grift. It's mainly interesting because of what

971
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: comes next. She pivots immediately from the failure of this

972
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: political party to announcing herself as the Queen of Canada,

973
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: and from the outside, that seems like a desperation move right,

974
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: that probably shouldn't work. It's like if Trump, if like

975
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: the campaign hadn't worked, and then he just started telling

976
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: everyone he was secretly the king of America, you know,

977
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: like that that wouldn't seem like a well considered pivot, right, Yeah,

978
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: but it's going to work, right, And that's that's kind

979
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: of what's most interesting to me about her. On May thirtieth,

980
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Digulo uploaded the first video on her

981
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: personal channel announcing that she was Commander in Chief of Canada.

982
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: That's before she's queen. She says that she's the commander

983
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: in chief. The language in the video deliberately apes QAnon.

984
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: She describes herself as as opposed by a deep state

985
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: cabal tied to a global pedophile conspiracy that she was

986
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: battling alongside white hats okay, which is a term that

987
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: comes out of like the hacking world. Right. You've got

988
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: like black hat hackers and white hat hackers, right, And

989
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: the black hats are people who are trying to fuck

990
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: up systems for their own benefit generally. The white hats

991
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: are like the people who are generally defending against malicious hacking, right, Like,

992
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of the basic idea. I don't actually have

993
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: a great handling on why white hat got taken up

994
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: by the QAnon people, but it does. This is way

995
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: pre didulo. This is the early years of Trump that

996
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: they're starting to use the term white hats to talk

997
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: about like and these are when they use it. It

998
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: means the members of the government and the intelligence services

999
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: in the military who aren't part of the deep state cabal, right,

1000
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: They're the good guys who are fighting this secret war.

1001
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: You know.

1002
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: Now, I can't find her first video, but if you've

1003
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: seen one of her pronouncements, you've seen most of them.

1004
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: So here's an example from less than a year after

1005
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: when she first makes her video. This is just to

1006
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: give you an idea of what it looks like when

1007
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: she addresses her subjects. This is filmed in an RV.

1008
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 3: Wait what you said, This is filmed in an RV.

1009
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: It sure is?

1010
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: What the hell?

1011
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 1: Okay those are r V grade curtains man. Yeah, all right,

1012
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: let's go.

1013
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 5: My fellow Canadians, I address you today as your Queen

1014
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 5: and commander in chief. We are on the eve of

1015
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 5: World War three. I asked that everyone come as one

1016
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 5: people and one nation and to work with the United

1017
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 5: States and all of our allies around the world. God

1018
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 5: help us and God speed.

1019
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: Oh my lord?

1020
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is she?

1021
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: Who are you?

1022
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's interesting because again, no charisma, no juice. Seemingly,

1023
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: I will say, she's putting some effort into dressing up.

1024
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: You know, the white the white jacket thing is a

1025
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: good call because it does kind of look vaguely regal,

1026
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, don't give her that she got flags again,

1027
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: she puts in some effort, like it's not the zero

1028
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: effort version like she's got. She makes sure everything's white

1029
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: behind her. It looks vaguely, but it looks almost like

1030
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: kind of like an Air Force one type video. It's

1031
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: just her RV.

1032
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like production but the production value is

1033
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: like West Wing nineteen ninety seven very much.

1034
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: It's very much a TV show. Yeah in the nineties,

1035
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah about nineties.

1036
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: She's trying, but she doesn't have a lot of resources

1037
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: to try with, right, so she's taking as much as

1038
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: she can with what she has.

1039
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 4: I think I'm starting to realize how she even made

1040
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: it to your radar and into this podcast, because it's like, yeah,

1041
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: this is a very much of against all odds, because

1042
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: I there is no reason we should know anything about

1043
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 4: this person based on the two things that you just

1044
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: showed me.

1045
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: No, she should never have hit our art. But here's

1046
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: the thing. Part of why I'm doing this prop this

1047
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: is she's in our top four or five most requested subjects.

1048
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: That is, like anytime you go online to where people

1049
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: talk about, like, hey, what who should we do next,

1050
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: she's always prominent. I love. That's why doing her I.

1051
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 4: Think now I get like I'm telling you, man, like

1052
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 4: the vision is becoming very clear to me, like where

1053
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: you that you was like, Okay, she's definitely like a

1054
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: C minus thing. But the but the tenacity of like

1055
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: how you managed to poke through and get a number

1056
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 4: one record, it's just that's crazy.

1057
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah with no bombs. Yeah, and I yeah, that's kind

1058
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: of the big mystery of her. So her first and

1059
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: second video she she puts out trying to claim that

1060
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: she's now in charge of Canada get roughly like fourteen

1061
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: thousand views in their first year each. So there's no

1062
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: sign yet that this Queen Grift is going to take

1063
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: her any further than the Canada First Party of Canada.

1064
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: It's a little less successful, it looks like initially, but

1065
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: trying your hat becoming a figure in the right wing

1066
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: fever swamps. It's a little like playing the slots right

1067
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: each time you pull that lever. Actually it's generally just

1068
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: a button the levers, the levers or anymore les. Yeah, whatever.

1069
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: Every time you say go right, you have a random

1070
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: chance of winning. And in this case, when it comes

1071
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: to being a right wing kind of conspiracy cult figure,

1072
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: winning means someone bigger in the movement catches onto your

1073
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: content and decides to either direct their followers your way

1074
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: or to play in with your bits. This is a

1075
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: big thing. This has been an aspect of UFO culture

1076
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: of like like the psychic you know, the whole new

1077
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: agent that believes that we have psychic powers where people

1078
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: will be like I'll play along. Yeah, I saw those

1079
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: aliens too, or that alien she's in psychic contact with.

1080
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm also in psychic contact with, so you can trust her, right,

1081
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, like.

1082
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 4: Are they just like a are are people like you know,

1083
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: posting and sharing it because they think it's funny or

1084
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 4: like you said, like that's what I was thinking. I

1085
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: was like, I feel like people are doing this ironically, But.

1086
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: Then I think that's a good chunk of it.

1087
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, even within the right wing, because it's like

1088
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: even the.

1089
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 4: Brain cooked folks still got some sense.

1090
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: To be like, well, this is just funny, this.

1091
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: Seems not Yeah, And I think I think most even

1092
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: most people on the right who are aware of her, like, well,

1093
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: this lady's a kok, right, and most of the kooky

1094
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: people on the right are aware that this lady is

1095
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: a kook. But in part, being made fun of and

1096
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: being ridiculous enough that you get elevated by people talking

1097
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: about what a bad con artist you are is part

1098
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: of how you get success in this field, because it

1099
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: just raises your general visibility, you know, like when people

1100
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: are talking about you and laughing about how silly you are.

1101
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: That also, that's another it's a free play of the slot, right,

1102
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: because maybe somebody who can burnish your reputation somebody else

1103
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: and will come across your shit that way and will

1104
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: decide to play in right or to share your stuff.

1105
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily bad for you to be initially

1106
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: just seen as a figure of like mockery, you know,

1107
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: which I think is kind of what happens to her.

1108
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: But as mac Lamora writes for a Vice quote, the

1109
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: Outlander self promotion went nowhere until a well known QAnon

1110
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: figure confirmed her in early twenty twenty one. At the time,

1111
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: the titular Q who drops clues for the community on

1112
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: Aitkun had disappeared and did Julo stepped into the power

1113
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: vacuum and if a matter of months, her popularity exploded.

1114
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: And this is important. We're in early twenty twenty one.

1115
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: Joe Biden has taken office. Trump is at least temporarily

1116
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: seems like he might be out of the game, right

1117
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: He was not wildly popular for the first couple of

1118
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: months after January sixth, and Q's not doing drops anymore.

1119
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: So there's still just as much as we're all aware of,

1120
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: just as much interest in this stuff, just as many

1121
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: people who are on board for these nonsense right wing

1122
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, but the most prominent people have kind of

1123
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: dropped out temporarily. And so part of why she gets

1124
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: success is she just starts trying to make a name

1125
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: for herself at a point in which there's nothing on TV.

1126
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like one of those shows

1127
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been a hit if there'd been anything

1128
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: geeral on, but because there's not, you know, yeah, like Okay.

1129
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, so this prominent QAnon figure who is the

1130
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: first guy who really gives your credibility, seems to have

1131
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: been a fellow who went by the user name Whiplash

1132
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: three four seven. He runs a telegram channel with about

1133
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand followers, which makes him a fairly large

1134
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: fixture in the QAnon community, and like many influential q heads,

1135
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: he claims to have close personal ties to Elon Musk,

1136
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and JFK. Junior, who is deceased but they

1137
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: believe is secretly alive.

1138
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, forgot, he's alive.

1139
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 4: My bad.

1140
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: I gotta keep it.

1141
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And you know what never dies? Prop Oh? Man,

1142
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: gooneys the girl they had that that's actually the one

1143
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: of the Goonies must.

1144
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: Have died, right, Goonies never say die.

1145
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 3: They never say die.

1146
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: Figure figure out if one of the Goonies has died,

1147
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: and if they're all alive, hunt one of them down,

1148
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: and then Jesus off to ads. Jesus Christ, we're back.

1149
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: Sophie is telling me that we are not allowed to

1150
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: tell people to hunt down the cast of the of

1151
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: the classic film Goonies. They're wonderful people, They're wonderful people

1152
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: probably don't hunt them down unless you have like a

1153
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: really good shot at it.

1154
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna get kicked out of Oregon for that tick

1155
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: because that was shot in the.

1156
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 3: Organ very much organ.

1157
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: I think it mostly annoys people from Oregon though, because

1158
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: that house, you know, that whole neighborhood probably property values

1159
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: You're swollen as a result.

1160
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: Dude.

1161
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 4: Imagine, Yeah, like every morning I kind of live next

1162
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 4: to a kind of like a cult classic location.

1163
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: I won't say exactly.

1164
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: Say which it is, say which it is. Let's move

1165
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: on from this. Yeah, you got.

1166
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: Too many listeners.

1167
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. H So, in the space of a year, from

1168
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: like early twenty twenty one to early twenty twenty two,

1169
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: Didulo goes from someone who couldn't crack fifteen thousand views

1170
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: on a YouTube video to someone who, in May of

1171
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one head close to twenty thousand followers on

1172
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: her personal telegram channel amazing, and at least hundreds of

1173
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: people claim to embrace her as their rightful sovereign and leaders.

1174
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: She's eventually going to get close to like it's going

1175
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: to be like eighty thousand or something like that on

1176
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: her telegram channel. So again, you know the guy who

1177
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: kind of vouches for her has like three hundred thousand

1178
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: followers on telegram, so she's never up to his level.

1179
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: But that's enough. When you've got like eighty thousand people

1180
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: following your telegram, you can pull out a couple a

1181
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: dozen folks who are going to be willing to change

1182
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: their lives to follow you in the real world. Oh no,

1183
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: that right, Yeah, that's enough. You know, it's not enough

1184
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: to be a big deal, but it's enough to change

1185
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: your your shitty life into something more fun. So during

1186
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: this first year, she's not out in public yet, no

1187
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: one's seen her. She's not traveling immediately, right, she's mostly

1188
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: for the first kind of few months that she's the

1189
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: Queen of Canada, she's just making videos and she's expanding

1190
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: the law about herself. She's doing a lot of live streams,

1191
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: she's talking a lot in her telegram, and you know

1192
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: she's thought this through to some extent. She knows that

1193
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: royalty doesn't just conjure itself up out of thin air.

1194
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: It's appointed by other royalty. Right, you can't just say

1195
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm the queen. Some other king or something has to

1196
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: say I'm the queen. Kind of how it works. Generally,

1197
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean, initially, there's always some guy who's like, I'm

1198
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: the king. Here's what a king is. Right, by this point,

1199
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: we've got a fairly robust system of royalty in the world.

1200
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: Someone knows about. Think we kind of know now yeah, yeah,

1201
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: now here's how researcher Christine Sarteghi summarizes Digulo's description of

1202
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: her own rise to power is recounted over a series

1203
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: of live streams and YouTube videos. Digito had been living

1204
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: with a roommate in Victoria, British Columbia, working a regular

1205
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: nine to five job. The two were living in a basement.

1206
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: At night and after working her day job, Romana was

1207
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: secretly interacting with a man she would later reveal as

1208
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: his Highness David J. Carlson, married to her Highness Sarah MG. Carlson,

1209
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: who is acting in the role of Commander in Chief

1210
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: of the United States Air Force Academy's Civilian Command of

1211
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: Military Operations, which what who what? That's not Commander in

1212
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: Chief of the Air Force Academy Civilian Command.

1213
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: Of what you're saying words.

1214
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 4: Again, Like the commander is making sure that there's a

1215
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 4: connection between the two.

1216
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, She'll just call David Carlson, the commander in chief

1217
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: of the United States and king. There's a lot that's

1218
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: wrong about this. It's what you'd expect. She's she understands

1219
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: America as well as you'd expect from a woman from

1220
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: the Philippines who's lived in Canada most of her life,

1221
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: which is not at all. First off, the commander in

1222
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: chief is a role that the president has president where

1223
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: they're in charge of the military, because we're supposed to

1224
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: have a civilian who's in charge of the military. Right,

1225
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you king, It shouldn't, right. And it's

1226
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: also there's not a commander in chief just of the

1227
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: United States, because that's also that's not what the job is.

1228
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: The commander in chief is like oversight of the military,

1229
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: commanding in chief of the country.

1230
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: So funny, it's so funny, dude, Like.

1231
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot that's wrong about this.

1232
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: That's why I'm like, that's why I'm like, y'all have

1233
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: to be laughing at her, because that is it's funny.

1234
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: She does this too with Canada, where she will kind

1235
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: of sometimes, especially earlier on, she would sort of she

1236
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: would refer to herself as the commander in chief and

1237
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: the Queen as if they were the same job and

1238
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: they're not. They never have been. It's just kind of,

1239
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: I think, a misunderstanding, or she just likes the way

1240
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: the terms sound.

1241
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 3: Also Canadians.

1242
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 4: Canadians, from my experience, are actually pretty well versed in

1243
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: like American history and politics, so.

1244
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: Like Romana not Romana. Yeah, for a while, I think

1245
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: the overwhelming suspicion was that David Carlson was not a

1246
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: real dude. But after she mentioned him, he pops up

1247
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: being a very real guy. And Arizona, who does in

1248
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: fact claim to be the king of the Kingdom of

1249
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,959
Speaker 1: America every time?

1250
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: Yes, Los Angeles angel every time?

1251
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I don't know marking behind the scenes, right, Like,

1252
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: was he pretending to be the king to her and

1253
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: she found him on like his weird king website and

1254
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: they started talking and he appointed her I don't know,

1255
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: or did she start claiming this about him and then

1256
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: he came like it's a little unclear to me what

1257
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: came first, like with the chicken or the egg is

1258
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: in this situation, But she claims David appoint did her

1259
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: Queen of Canada in twenty seventeen. Now, this can't be true, right,

1260
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: there's no evidence of her. She wasn't a figure back then, right,

1261
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: she wasn't saying shit. It was the evidence that right.

1262
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: We have no evidence she thought of this until twenty

1263
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: twenty one, But the story needs to date back to

1264
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen to make room for another crucial piece of

1265
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: Romana's hastily contrived and poorly conceived backstory. According to this tale,

1266
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: King David Carlson became aware of Romana and made her

1267
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: the Queen of Canada after she saved Canada from an

1268
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: underground invasion by the Chinese Communist military.

1269
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 4: Oh, single handle, that is wonderful.

1270
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: Now you have a reaction. I think a lot of

1271
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: Canadians are going to have a similar reaction because and

1272
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: it's sad. You know, in America we have the Korean

1273
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: War is our forgotten war, right, Americas just don't know

1274
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: a lot about the Korean War.

1275
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1276
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: And I think Canada, we can all agree. Canada's forgotten

1277
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: war is that time China invaded through a series of

1278
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: underground under turned back by a woman in her fifties. Oh,

1279
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: my lord, from underground, from underground, that is from underground.

1280
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: I love. Everything's got to take place underground. She's from

1281
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: that chunk of the UFO come where everything's happening underground everything.

1282
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: If you're like China invaded Canada, Canadians are gonna be like,

1283
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: I've lived in Canada and I didn't see anything. But

1284
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: if you're like, no, no, no, they came up underground.

1285
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: They were in the tunnels, like, well, maybe I haven't

1286
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: been to the top.

1287
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: One was up in the UK.

1288
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 4: It was underground. Its pretty cold up there. I don't

1289
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 4: think you could borrow dude.

1290
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't think a cold place for tunnels.

1291
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: Why would they do that.

1292
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm imagining like in a sort of situation here, which

1293
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: is what they're imagining right as part of what that

1294
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: movie was inspired by. As the story goes, there were

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Speaker 1: Chinese soldiers that were like being stationed in tunnels that

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Speaker 1: ran from Canada through the US down to Mexico. And

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Speaker 1: the Chinese army was go to invade, and they were

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Speaker 1: going to invade like Canada in the US and I

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Speaker 1: guess Mexico simultaneously. And as they were preparing and getting

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Speaker 1: their army in place, they were using the tunnels. Because

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Speaker 1: if you've got these tunnels before they're filled with soldiers,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of a real estate outlay to buy

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Speaker 1: these tunnels, so you're gonna use them for something, and

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Speaker 1: the Chinese army use them to harvest adrenochrome from children.

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Speaker 4: You know, So a multi national tunnel, like you say

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Speaker 4: it through through three countries.

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Speaker 1: Three three countries, a tunnel system presently underneath like all

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Speaker 1: of the major habitation areas of those cities, right, I

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Speaker 1: would assume.

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Speaker 3: This is incredibleose countries. It's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now again she's cribbing from some old and

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Speaker 1: well established conspiracy theories, which all have underground bases and

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Speaker 1: cities and stuff about the you know, children being abducted

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Speaker 1: to prevent organs and arcotics for the elite. This is

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01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: none of this is new. She's just wrapping old stuff

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Speaker 1: in her conspiracy theory. Christine Starteghi continues. Didulo claims that

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Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist military is a front for the New

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01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: World Order, Satanists and individuals who want to engage in eugenics.

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Speaker 1: Did you. Loo asserts that she single handedly removed the

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Speaker 1: Chinese Communist military from Canada and additionally the remainder of

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Speaker 1: the world. It's got to be news to China. Didulo

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: maintains that if the Chinese communist military attacked the United

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: States as was planned, that it would have sparked a

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Speaker 1: World war. She contends that her subterranean military achievements thus

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Speaker 1: prevented World War three. For that, she was awarded her

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Speaker 1: title ast Queen. The entire world, she explains, should be

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Speaker 1: thankful for her monumental efforts. And you know what, prop

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Speaker 1: let's end this episode right now by just just saying

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Speaker 1: thank you Romana for stopping the Chinese communists from destroying Canada.

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Speaker 1: And I guess also, America.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious as to why your commander in chief in Arizona,

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Speaker 4: Like why he ain't do nothing about it before he even.

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Speaker 3: Got to Canada, Like why was he not? And why

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01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: would you? Like, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: He was the King of America, King of America.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I would have an issue.

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: Maybe he's down in Arizona. They haven't made it there yet.

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01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: Way down south. You could have gave me a heads

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01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 4: up that they was coming, yeah, saying.

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: I feel like that they were kind of invade, you

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah. One thing I love about

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: this is that it is very clearly the kind of

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: grift that like someone who doesn't know much about Canada

1344
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: or the United States really would make there's this almost

1345
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: like childlike vantage point where like, obviously, if there's a

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01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: queen in Canada, she must have been appointed by the

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01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: King of America, right obviously does that just makes sense

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01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: because of course, which is you know, I think kind

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01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: of offensive to most Canadian most even most crazy Canadians,

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01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: But it makes a lot of sense when you think

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01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: about like Romana's backstory that she's she does have this

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: kind of outsider look where she's like, Okay, I gotta

1353
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: find someone who who could make me Queen of Canada,

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: King of America about the King of America.

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01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: Right, that's so great, This is wonderful.

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01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm still curious, which we'll probably get into the next episode,

1357
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 4: is like okay, but where's the back where's the money at?

1358
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 4: Where's the bag at? Like what are we are? When

1359
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 4: do you when does she get to the money? Like

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01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 4: what is the Yeah?

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01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: What is the thing? Yeah?

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01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 1: It was the I mean the grift is she's going

1363
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: to raise money to support her quest to save Canada.

1364
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: Like that that's what it's going to be. You get

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: followers and you take their money. Right and again, when

1366
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: I first read about her exploits tunnel fighting the Chinese army.

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: I had the same question you're all asking, how did

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: she do that? And unfortunately she never gives us to tails.

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01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: She just says that she was unable to eat or

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: sleep or think while fighting off China's invasion, and when

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01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: she finally achieved victory, she wept and was allowed to

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: eat and sleep again. I think, based on my knowledge

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01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: general knowledge of these kinds of movements, that she she

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01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: thinks she's claiming this was a psychic battle. She wasn't

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: fighting them in a hand to hand combat. She was

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01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: sitting in her house and became aware psychically that Chinese

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01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: psychers were in tunnels underneath Canada, and she fought off

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: China psychic warriors. So using psychic powers right basically? Like

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01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: so that's a little unclear to me. Prop I think so.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think she fought them physically.

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Why would they physical?

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 4: Why am I asking about logic? But that means that see,

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01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 4: but see we learn it here we learn and biomissions.

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 4: See that means that, like your psychic fighting abilities has

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01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: a range. It's more like radio rather than satellite. So

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 4: you got to be a little closer to Canada. So

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 4: that's the best way you might be in psychic war.

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01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,480
Speaker 4: You got to actually physically be on the Western hemisphere

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 4: under our radio sig.

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Speaker 1: That's why again, Arizona was just too far the King

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01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: of America's psychic.

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 6: Try.

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01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 3: It's just a signal was to triumph.

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: Maybe the caves were made out of dolomite, which we

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01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: all know block psychic res. You know, no way to know,

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01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: so uh. The Queen claims that after she finished defeating

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01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: the Chinese, her roommate. It sounds like she's saying her

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01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: roommate walked in on her. She doesn't exactly say this,

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01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing she was astral projecting. And then afterwards

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: her roommate Caesar and is like, hey, what happened, And

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01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: she's like, I am the Queen and commander in chief

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: of Canada. I defeated the Chinese communists and if you

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: tell anyone, I'm going to have to kill you. And

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01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: that's not a joke, right.

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: Queen having a roommate is really funny, It's very funny.

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: It's really funny.

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01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just call uber e bro, Like, if you

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 3: want to.

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: Do anything, Yeah, I'm the queen. I'm gonna need your

1410
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: half of the utilities bill.

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01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing. What's funny to me is

1413
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: this is part of her story to her followers about

1414
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: like how she came to power, is like, and then

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: I told my roommate, and my roommates started calling me

1416
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: your majesty from then on. Of course, she she's like

1417
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: he immediately recognized that I was the queen. I think

1418
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: this guy might have been both joking and also like, well,

1419
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: she's just threatened to kill me, so I probably don't

1420
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: want to push her too far. This is clearly an

1421
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: unwell person that I lived with. I mus kind of

1422
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: say your majesty and get on Craigslist to look for another.

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Okay, your majesty, will is your turn do the bathroom?

1424
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you got any of your

1425
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 4: royal subjects to come do this. It is your turn.

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01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you still got to clean the bathroom.

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01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: I was also interested in your your your acknowledgment of

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01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 4: the tunnels being made of dolomite, and well.

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: I assume it it blocks psychic powers. Maybe not her

1431
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: psychic powers, but maybe the King of America.

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 4: I'm just saying my only reference to dolomite was a

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01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 4: pimp from the Gripes.

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01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: Oh, it was also a pimp. Maybe the tunnels in

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,440
Speaker 1: Canada were made from a pimp from the sa Okay.

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 3: Cool, Wow, dolomite was a real thing.

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, well, everybody killing me. That's this episode of

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards Until next time. You know what you

1440
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:51,280
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Speaker 2: Listen to hood politics you.

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01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: Could, Yeah, sure, listen to hood politics. Listen to hood politics,

1443
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: and declare yourself or queen of whatever country you happen

1444
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: to be in. You know, all you have to do

1445
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: is defeat the Chinese military underground using your sage with

1446
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: your brain.

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