Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable
Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,
Speaker 1: Ray drops On today's episode Reality with the King, We're
Speaker 1: back to discuss the amazing show called The Valley and
Speaker 1: the most recent episode. And I have a very special guest.
Speaker 1: He's printed the show. His name is Ryan Bailey. But
Speaker 1: today how about you say, Ryan, who are you today?
Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Caperna, I'm Janet and Jason's third so very
Speaker 2: excited to be here today as always, Oh.
Speaker 3: Jan and missus Jackson, if you're nasty? What episode this? Listen?
Speaker 1: This show is so freaking good. I love it so much.
Speaker 1: I always tell people it's sort of like the best
Speaker 1: show on Brava. Right now, I can't get enough of
Speaker 1: these crazy kids and Ryan, I can't wait to recap
Speaker 1: this episode with you, So let's get right into it.
Speaker 1: The episode begins with Danny and Jason having a conversation
Speaker 1: about this alleged drinking problem that Danny has. But by
Speaker 1: the way, let's just start here, Ryan, do you think
Speaker 1: Danny has a drinking problem?
Speaker 4: Well, listen, if.
Speaker 2: You, I mean, in all honesty, if you are grabbing
Speaker 2: ass and you do not remember it, that is an issue.
Speaker 4: That is a problem.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Do I think he is like a daily drinker, that
Speaker 2: he's like drinking rubbing alcohol? Not a chance in hell.
Speaker 2: But as Jason points out later in the episode, or
Speaker 2: maybe it was the after show, is just like, hey,
Speaker 2: if I did that, I would never drink again, Like
Speaker 2: if somebody told me I did that.
Speaker 4: So that's an issue.
Speaker 2: But it is so interesting because this obviously happened close
Speaker 2: to a year ago, and it's being pulled out for
Speaker 2: the cameras, when, of course they could have had all
Speaker 2: of these conversations if they were an actual friend group
Speaker 2: away from the cameras. So I think you're getting this
Speaker 2: like kind of double shock of my own behavior having
Speaker 2: to face that, and then on top of it, like, well,
Speaker 2: why didn't you tell me this when the cameras were off?
Speaker 2: Why are why aren't we Why are we having these
Speaker 2: conversations right now. So, I mean, I do think it's
Speaker 2: a problem, but my god, we're in a cast with
Speaker 2: Jax Taylor and Jesse Lally, which, by the way, you
Speaker 2: should rename this to rehap with the King, because you
Speaker 2: know your interview with Jesse Lally, anybody that had like
Speaker 2: anybody that thinks negatively of a cast member, you should
Speaker 2: they should come on this show.
Speaker 4: You need to get Janet next and see what you
Speaker 4: can do for Janet.
Speaker 1: To my Lindy, let's put at the request or Janet,
Speaker 1: because I really do want to get to talk to Art.
Speaker 1: First of all, Beck, you Rye by exclusive, what Jesse
Speaker 1: Lally was was very fun. I lacked the guy, icked
Speaker 1: the guy, and I happen to agree with you with
Speaker 1: terms of the conversations that they're happened with Danny boy.
Speaker 1: His drinking problem did happen a year ago. But it's
Speaker 1: so interesting is he appears to be very shocked that
Speaker 1: it is even a topic of discussion. And I think
Speaker 1: a large part of it has to do with the
Speaker 1: fact that he's like, are.
Speaker 3: You fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: This happened a year ago, and you're waiting to tell
Speaker 1: a fucking cannon cameras, a round with the fucking diva
Speaker 1: light and overhead lighting and a microphone pack in our
Speaker 1: Levi jeans.
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm trying to enjoy a hamburger.
Speaker 2: We're having hamburgers and a beer, and like, I didn't
Speaker 2: know this conversation with and this is what happens, Like
Speaker 2: if Jax Taylor didn't enter a mental health facility, we
Speaker 2: would not be having this conversation right now.
Speaker 3: Potentially, No, totally, totally, totally.
Speaker 1: So I had to admit I was sort of caught
Speaker 1: off guard with Jason, who was pretty much trying to
Speaker 1: tell his boy Danny that, you know, it is kind
Speaker 1: of a problem because Danny's like, and I'll love a flashback.
Speaker 1: Danny's like, but that's not the message you said to
Speaker 1: me while it is happen. And I think that this
Speaker 1: is my theory. I think Janet, miss Jackson, if You're nasty,
Speaker 1: had pillow talk with Jason, has said, look, motherfucker, when
Speaker 1: you going that scene, I can't look crazy as the
Speaker 1: only person who thinks Danny has a problem. I said
Speaker 1: in the last episode, right, it was obvious.
Speaker 4: Wait, but I mean, like, there is not a doubt
Speaker 4: in my mind.
Speaker 2: And by the way, if you are in a relationship
Speaker 2: like that, you that is that kind of filter is
Speaker 2: going to happen. You are going to be affected by
Speaker 2: your partner. And you know, Janet is running her mouth
Speaker 2: NonStop about the potent, like she looks at this from
Speaker 2: ten different angles. On top of being a vander Pump
Speaker 2: Rule's reality show fan, which I'm not bashing, but she
Speaker 2: knows how the system works.
Speaker 4: So she even brings.
Speaker 2: Up like, quote detective Doty, which is the name the
Speaker 2: fans have given Dody over the.
Speaker 4: Years, So she knows every which way.
Speaker 2: And Jason, you know, he's just he's not a confident messenger.
Speaker 2: Luke has this a little bit as well, where they're like,
Speaker 2: in normal life, I wouldn't be doing this, but I
Speaker 2: guess I to have this tough conversation now where Janet
Speaker 2: runs towards a tough conversation, which is what reality stars
Speaker 2: are supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Yes, because one thing I like about miss Jackson is
Speaker 1: the fact that Janet has never met a camera she
Speaker 1: didn't like. You know, listen, I think it's all fair
Speaker 1: in love and war in this case, in the Valley
Speaker 1: and the rules of banda Pump she wants the gig.
Speaker 3: She is making shit happen. One thing.
Speaker 1: As the producer, I will say Janet is a producer's
Speaker 1: dream because she stands on her own truth. She moves
Speaker 1: story along, and she gives no fucks how she looks
Speaker 1: as long as the camera's on her.
Speaker 2: Okay, But Carlos, this is why you're perfect for This
Speaker 2: is what my curiosity and I think this puts the
Speaker 2: fans in this driver's seat where we're kind of swept
Speaker 2: up in the story, but we are now in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five thinking about production and how you actually make
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 4: Is that Janet for the.
Speaker 2: Most part, is universally disliked by the Brav fan base,
Speaker 2: even me and you. I'm like, I can see what
Speaker 2: she's doing. I can see some positive stuff. It is
Speaker 2: moving story along. But what is that like when you're
Speaker 2: dealing with a cast member that you know is universally
Speaker 2: disliked and you're giving them the hot potato. How do
Speaker 2: you encourage them or keep them in the game or
Speaker 2: is it just their own ego that keeps themselves in
Speaker 2: the game because they've always wanted this and they don't
Speaker 2: care how they get it.
Speaker 3: No, that's a really good question, you have to balance
Speaker 3: them out.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like my study as it is a
Speaker 1: libra you know, it's all about the tipping scales of balance,
Speaker 1: and us libras try our best to be a balance
Speaker 1: human being and we fell miserably at that, but we
Speaker 1: do shout out to my libra range drops. But what
Speaker 1: I will say is you have to balance someone out.
Speaker 1: So obviously, when I worked on Atlanta Housewives in Jersey,
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore and Danielle stob right to two totally different women,
Speaker 1: it's something. They're there their place on this on their
Speaker 1: respective shows, but are called a villain by the Bravo audience.
Speaker 1: So you always try to find your best to show
Speaker 1: the softer side of them, like the Sharman tissue. Let's
Speaker 1: see the softer side of you.
Speaker 2: So like next episode, we're gonna get a scene with
Speaker 2: Janet and her baby potentially.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, yes, yes, you want to be The thing
Speaker 1: is this Janet doesn't mind doing her job, and her
Speaker 1: job is and this is when I say job, not
Speaker 1: that she's being a character. We all have our different
Speaker 1: personality traits. That's true to us, right, So when I
Speaker 1: say her job, she knows that her personality is. She
Speaker 1: likes to be nosy, she likes to say what it is,
Speaker 1: and yes, she has the propensity to understand that.
Speaker 3: I know how TV works.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of it, but when you're producing someone
Speaker 1: like Janet, you do have to rull her back sometime to.
Speaker 3: Say, look, be messy on you want to we love
Speaker 3: it here.
Speaker 1: However, let's balance you out because you don't want a
Speaker 1: Janet to quit the show because then it's sort of
Speaker 1: like Jackson rehaff So, who the fuck do we have
Speaker 1: to start the pot?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's like the big question even in
Speaker 2: this episode, because we have the first appearance of Lala.
Speaker 2: She know, we had an appearance of last week on
Speaker 2: the hike with Michelle, but you know, Lala has her
Speaker 2: scene with Jesse, and you know, my thought is is
Speaker 2: this always planned or were they not scrambling? But like,
Speaker 2: let's do plan B. Now that Jacks is gone for
Speaker 2: seven episodes, let's try to protect this cast with additions,
Speaker 2: even though it does in my personal opinion, it does
Speaker 2: not need this like Lala.
Speaker 4: I mean that's like a that's giving.
Speaker 2: Like an easy hit to Lala, Like, oh, say something
Speaker 2: crappy about Jesse. You can talk about narcissism and walk off,
Speaker 2: and then Sheena, you know, jumps into the scene like
Speaker 2: classic Sheena. But does it really need that? And and
Speaker 2: why do they throw those things in? Was it because
Speaker 2: of Jack's Was that always the plan?
Speaker 3: Great question. I think it's a little bit of both. Right.
Speaker 1: What I'm starting to see is is this number one.
Speaker 1: We all know that at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: rain Drops the Valley is the quiet spinoff of Vanda
Speaker 1: Pump Rules. It's sort of the thing that no one
Speaker 1: wants to really talk about. It's a marketing.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well, I mean why do you why do
Speaker 2: you think it's quiet? I mean because for me, I
Speaker 2: just call it like vander Pump Junior, you know.
Speaker 3: Because people got fired for misbehaving.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is like vander Pump with knee problems,
Speaker 2: like as you get older, this is what happens, you know.
Speaker 4: But I totally I totally get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think that's the reason why
Speaker 1: it's like this quiet spinoff, although we kind of know
Speaker 1: what it is. So to answer your question when it
Speaker 1: comes to La La number one, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think we need Laala, and I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of Laala I think the reason why she was brought back. Yes,
Speaker 1: when it comes to Jack's you sort of need that.
Speaker 1: That's spitfire.
Speaker 3: That's number one.
Speaker 1: Number two, you want a test to kind of see
Speaker 1: the chemistry that a notable face has with this new
Speaker 1: crop of people. That's number two and number three, which
Speaker 1: to me is the most important. The way Bravo sort
Speaker 1: of sees Housewives as like a soap opera where a
Speaker 1: character leaves and in the world of soap opera, dies
Speaker 1: off and then comes back to Like we're seeing that
Speaker 1: for Paja Parks on Atlanta Housewives. You last saw her
Speaker 1: season nine. She's back for season sixteen. There was a
Speaker 1: seven year gap of no Fadra. Now that she's back,
Speaker 1: everyone presumably is happy. So with La La, it's sort
Speaker 1: of like, let's bring back these characters that the audience
Speaker 1: familiar with. But I think the reason why we all
Speaker 1: love the valley so much is because it's its own specialness.
Speaker 1: And when I see La La La La to me
Speaker 1: will always be bound the plumb rules. Kristin to me,
Speaker 1: And when I say this here met guys, Kristin to
Speaker 1: me fits way more on this show than band the
Speaker 1: pump rules because she fits this world and to me
Speaker 1: on Banda Pump.
Speaker 5: Rules La La Arianna Sheena, they fit that world of
Speaker 5: like we were Bartender, we made a bigger Hollywood in
Speaker 5: the entertainment industry, and here we are here us roar
Speaker 5: where I think the Valley gives me very much suburban lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean don't like last episode they're moving into
Speaker 2: their rental house, you know, in preparation of a family,
Speaker 2: and that is very different than you know, a Jax
Speaker 2: Taylor buying a home with Vander Pump money and then
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you know, not paying the bills for
Speaker 2: three months because he's living beyond its means. You know,
Speaker 2: there's something so like earthy obviously about Dody where it's
Speaker 2: very valley related and not star driven where Lala, you're right,
Speaker 2: Like I watched that premiere of the new season of
Speaker 2: Real Housewives in Miami which comes out in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, and.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 2: But they were like they're dressed up like superheroes the
Speaker 2: whole time, Like they are so done up in every
Speaker 2: scene and I loved it. But that's not the valley.
Speaker 2: None of these people are done to the nines. I
Speaker 2: love that, and I wouldn't even say it's aspirational, but
Speaker 2: there is something recognizable about the valley that we.
Speaker 4: Can relate to.
Speaker 2: The only thing that I would say is the glaring
Speaker 2: issue is that in no way can we call this
Speaker 2: truly a friend group. Like, you know, if you are
Speaker 2: constantly talking mad you know, sahi t to everybody about
Speaker 2: the person you should be having in the conversation with,
Speaker 2: you would not hang out with that person eventually. So
Speaker 2: it's like this thin tether that keeps all of these
Speaker 2: people together. And that thin tether is just TV. It's
Speaker 2: just the fact of commerce and TV.
Speaker 3: No, it really is, it really, it really is.
Speaker 1: And what they're going to have to figure out is
Speaker 1: sort of like how they can make sense for the
Speaker 1: show to last multiple seasons with exacting.
Speaker 3: That they're real friends.
Speaker 1: Because again, that's the reason why I've had the pot
Speaker 1: rules have to be recast, because it was it was
Speaker 1: glaringly obvious that they just weren't friends. I want to
Speaker 1: get into what you mentioned about Jackson not paying the
Speaker 1: mortgage for three months.
Speaker 2: Classic Jacks, by the way, classic Jacks. Well, Jackson is dangerous. Yes,
Speaker 2: a month, three months, and Brittany was paying for the
Speaker 2: airbnb rental on top of that, and then in this
Speaker 2: episode he just slides it out there to Brittany that
Speaker 2: he assigned a lease on a new place right next
Speaker 2: to Tom Schwartz like and having not still paid the
Speaker 2: rent on the actual property that they own.
Speaker 1: Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with
Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
Speaker 1: the show. To my female listeners, if I didn't learn
Speaker 1: one thing from Teresa Judais going to prison, if you
Speaker 1: read every document your husband putting in front of you
Speaker 1: to sign, that's number one, but number two, know what
Speaker 1: the fuck your husband's doing. You need to listen. I
Speaker 1: want to see the castle check. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to log in if you're paying a mortgage in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, there's a website that you log into.
Speaker 4: Carlo by Carlos here.
Speaker 2: I think at this point, if something happens, we know
Speaker 2: that Brittany and Jackson will get a full pardon. I
Speaker 2: think with recent events, so I think they're safe. I
Speaker 2: think they're safe. I think that's a good third season
Speaker 2: of the Valley. Jackson Brittany get a full pardon for
Speaker 2: any financial misdeeds. But no, you're right, it is shocking
Speaker 2: that they live such public lives and then you realize
Speaker 2: that their private lives are disastrous in some ways, but
Speaker 2: also just the financial aspect of it, which is somewhat
Speaker 2: aspirational to all of us of like, oh wow, they
Speaker 2: can buy cool things. Is that is just full of
Speaker 2: smoke as well. It's all smoke and mirrors, and that
Speaker 2: to me is fascinating to watch the dissolution of even
Speaker 2: though it's really painful to think about their reality.
Speaker 1: No, it's really painful, but it's such an asshole thing
Speaker 1: of Jacks because at the end of the day, this
Speaker 1: is the mother of your child.
Speaker 3: So to risk your child being homeless.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you have enough money to sign a lease to
Speaker 1: live next door to Tom Schwartz, who isn't the babysitter,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So to need cops
Speaker 1: decision is horrible.
Speaker 2: We need to siphon off all of Jackson's Cameo money
Speaker 2: right to Brittany. It should go well, we should contact Cameo,
Speaker 2: but it like I don't.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. And even Jesse brings.
Speaker 2: Us up to a degree too of like the daughter
Speaker 2: or the son and these things, and it makes for good.
Speaker 4: Clips but I'm like, where is the action.
Speaker 2: Jackson will talk till he's blue in the face of
Speaker 2: like I do I'm doing this for my son. I'm
Speaker 2: doing this for my kid, and then when it comes
Speaker 2: down to it, he doesn't do any of the things
Speaker 2: that he knows would be good for his family and
Speaker 2: to put his son above himself, and that never happens.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've lived since twenty thirteen with the character
Speaker 2: of Jax Taylor. He has not really changed that much
Speaker 2: except he has new like buzzwords to speak about, and
Speaker 2: he's able to use therapy as a protection.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, even in the after show, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: the Valley After Show, I so recommend on Peacock. It's
Speaker 2: like thirty minutes each week, but they speak and give
Speaker 2: it more context, and he's like, yeah, I picked a
Speaker 2: park to have that hard conversation with Brittany, and I
Speaker 2: brought my therapist along so you know, they could back
Speaker 2: me up in what I was doing with moving out.
Speaker 2: I want to know what facility this man has gone to,
Speaker 2: because it sounds so lax. He's able to go back home,
Speaker 2: fiddle with the cameras to watch Brittany, He's able to
Speaker 2: be on his phone the entire time. I don't know
Speaker 2: a lot about the mental health industry in terms of
Speaker 2: like rehab, but like it sounds like it's really loose.
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So apparently it's not even a rehab because in real
Speaker 1: rehab you can't leave the premises for a certain amount
Speaker 1: of days minimumly thirty. So it's I agree with you,
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't understand the facility he's in. I
Speaker 1: don't understand why he's able to go to a park
Speaker 1: and with his therapist and see his kids and they
Speaker 1: have to go back to the to the rehab station,
Speaker 1: but also am able to mess with the cameras he's
Speaker 1: watching Brittany, telling her I know what you're wearing. It's
Speaker 1: it's super gross and super controlling in how he's treating Brittany.
Speaker 1: And I know Brittany isn't the favorite of the show,
Speaker 1: but no woman deserves to be to succumb to that
Speaker 1: sort of mental abuse that he's displaying with her by
Speaker 1: telling her I'm watching you, I'm not paying the mortgage
Speaker 1: and Beth bah blah.
Speaker 4: Well that's I mean.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing is that the audience then goes
Speaker 2: into production mode of like, how does a producer determine
Speaker 2: when it's too far? Like obviously they helped or forced
Speaker 2: him into this facility in the first place, you know,
Speaker 2: because they were filming with him.
Speaker 4: It went too far.
Speaker 2: But when somebody is doing this many things like where
Speaker 2: is the point where it does cross this.
Speaker 4: Line of like we can't work with you. These are threats, even.
Speaker 2: Though you're saying they are not, it does get to
Speaker 2: a scary place. Like last episode Lala and the after
Speaker 2: show or no, maybe it was Lalla's podcast or something
Speaker 2: was saying listen, I told Brittany to get out of
Speaker 2: there because I thought she was gonna get hurt if
Speaker 2: she didn't. And I was like, now we're talking or
Speaker 2: insinuating physical violence.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, reality shows, as you know, have
Speaker 2: changed so much in terms of like what behavior actually
Speaker 2: is acceptable. And I think a lot of behavior obviously
Speaker 2: is still acceptable. But where as a producer, I mean,
Speaker 2: we've seen it with James Kennedy, We've seen it with
Speaker 2: all of these people. Where do you draw that line
Speaker 2: and still worry about the overall health of the show.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's something where Brittany has to say out
Speaker 1: loud to them she feels unsafe, right because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, they're not paying for the house
Speaker 1: we need.
Speaker 3: The production is Brittany's house. It's her situation.
Speaker 1: So if she feels unsafe in her own home, the
Speaker 1: only thing a production can do.
Speaker 3: And I'm not a lawyer, but I just base his office.
Speaker 1: Being a producer is sort of making sure the crew
Speaker 1: is not in the house, making sure she has resources
Speaker 1: to live other places, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But first thing first, she has.
Speaker 1: To vocalize it, because you don't want to step into
Speaker 1: someone's reality and alter it, because God forbid, if you
Speaker 1: do that, something else could happen. And it's because you
Speaker 1: remove somebody from their normal behavior and you're placing them
Speaker 1: in the hands of something else where. They didn't ask
Speaker 1: for you to do that, so it is very tricky.
Speaker 1: But first thing first, Brittany has to first say this
Speaker 1: and explain to them why apparently that hasn't happened yet. Now,
Speaker 1: look in Jackson Fence, they're having verbo spats that we've
Speaker 1: seen across all of these shows.
Speaker 3: I want to make that very clear.
Speaker 1: Nothing has gone physical, at least from what Brittany has said,
Speaker 1: all of it just appears to be this asshole of
Speaker 1: a husband she has who is doing asshole shit. And
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there's tons of assholes
Speaker 1: who are on all across reality television for being that.
Speaker 4: But and that's not criminal, and that's not criminal.
Speaker 2: That is not criminal to be an asshole, whether you're
Speaker 2: a male or female. Brittany safe word needs to be Bravo, Bravo,
Speaker 2: effing bravo with production, like, if she feels safe, just
Speaker 2: throw that out there and they've got Brittany.
Speaker 4: But I will say also, like do we need Jax Taylor, Like,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Obviously he's not coming back. I think till episode ten,
Speaker 2: the show is sailing along without him. And of course
Speaker 2: we have these little like Blair Witch camera things you know,
Speaker 2: of him checking in, but we don't necessarily.
Speaker 4: Need that because we get it. I mean, it will
Speaker 4: be necessary.
Speaker 2: It will be definitely exciting when he comes back to
Speaker 2: see how he tries to maneuver within the framework that's
Speaker 2: been set up after he left. And you'll, you know
Speaker 2: that if anything, it's like I thought this was Sandobal
Speaker 2: as well, is that the only thing they truly love
Speaker 2: is themselves and the show. Like Jackson's like big argument
Speaker 2: with Britney leaving was that you took my dream for
Speaker 2: me and his dream sadly enough, was to get back
Speaker 2: on reality television.
Speaker 3: He said that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they talked about it more on the after show too.
Speaker 2: Was that he was like Brittany was like he.
Speaker 4: Said, he I took his dream away from him and
Speaker 4: how dare I do this? Because you know, she was
Speaker 4: the one.
Speaker 2: I think that maybe tipped off production, that it was
Speaker 2: in a really bad place because remember he threw the
Speaker 2: chair that we saw the broken chair of in that
Speaker 2: first or second episode. Yeah, well the king, the King
Speaker 2: has paused.
Speaker 4: Wow, well Beth.
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, when it comes to Jack's, I
Speaker 1: think what we have seen is the show must go on.
Speaker 1: I tell everybody all the time, everyone is replaceable. No
Speaker 1: matter how iconic you are, you are replaceable. When it
Speaker 1: comes to Jack's, Look, the storyline is still alive without
Speaker 1: him being there because he's misbehaving. Wherever he is child rehab.
Speaker 4: Or he's a David Busters Janet loves.
Speaker 1: It, Okay, Yeah, so wherever he's at, the stories alive.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it has to do
Speaker 1: with what his behavior is at this upcoming reunion that
Speaker 1: they already shot weeks ago.
Speaker 3: But as of now, as of now, the.
Speaker 1: Season is great without him, and listen, as a reality star,
Speaker 1: that's not what you want to hear.
Speaker 2: Well, this show is like the Little Engine that could,
Speaker 2: because when it came on, we were all like, who
Speaker 2: needs this show?
Speaker 4: I'm not going to watch this show, And then it
Speaker 4: turned out to be great.
Speaker 2: And then you lose cast members like Jacks and things
Speaker 2: like that, and it still works, and it works in
Speaker 2: this kind of mess of a way where I was noticing,
Speaker 2: you know, I say this every week or every day
Speaker 2: of like this show is so dark, but I don't
Speaker 2: say it in a negative way.
Speaker 4: That's what I've signed up to watch.
Speaker 2: Like, if I want to go watch lighthearted drama, I'll
Speaker 2: go to Summerhouse or another show. But if I want dark,
Speaker 2: there are so there's such darkness, like.
Speaker 4: It truly is.
Speaker 2: Like I said at the very last episode of The Valley,
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out that it was actually they were
Speaker 2: in hell the whole time. It'll be like, oh, this
Speaker 2: was actually hell. Oh that's why they kept saying it
Speaker 2: was so hot in the Valley. It's in the hell
Speaker 2: because it is any way you cut it. And then
Speaker 2: on top of it, they have kids. So when they
Speaker 2: show the kids like Isabella or something, it really like
Speaker 2: floors you because you're like, oh my god, we never change.
Speaker 2: We never change. We only just make like small adjustments
Speaker 2: to our lives. And I'm curious to see Jesse Lalley
Speaker 2: next season, like because you can almost forgive certain aspects,
Speaker 2: like he had that great talking head of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: she is a liar and a cheater, but maybe I
Speaker 2: shouldn't have said whore, you know, Like he's still with
Speaker 2: those two things. So I'm curious what his behavior is
Speaker 2: like a year from now, once the actual anger and
Speaker 2: resentment dissipates, if it ever does, to see who Jesse
Speaker 2: really is, Like is he a villain? Is he a
Speaker 2: bad guy? Or is he somebody that like really misjudged
Speaker 2: actions in a relationship and lost something that he never
Speaker 2: thought he would lose. But he's not like vindictive in
Speaker 2: the entirety of his life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: He gives me like this bad boy who really tries
Speaker 1: to do right, but he's battled between both worlds.
Speaker 4: So Charlae, wait, wait, Carlos, would you ever, wait, would
Speaker 4: you ever send Jesse Lalley twenty five hundred dollars Venmo
Speaker 4: for his birthday? Would you ever send him money.
Speaker 3: If I was a girl? No?
Speaker 2: I mean remember that was on the episode a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, is that we found out get a
Speaker 2: gay man sent him money, and then they repealed it
Speaker 2: was twenty five hundred dollars on his birthday, and I
Speaker 2: was like, that's a great friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a gay man, I think another straight well,
Speaker 1: as a gay man sending a straight man twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, I'm not doing that under any circumstance.
Speaker 3: If I'm a girl and I'm.
Speaker 1: Sitting this hot guy, twenty five hundred dollars is because
Speaker 1: I want them.
Speaker 2: So, guys, everybody, Benmo requests Carlos today, twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Everybody everybody listening, ring drops. Benmo requests Carlos.
Speaker 3: You can find me under my government name. I'm teasy.
Speaker 1: I did think that was strange, but nothing to me
Speaker 1: was more stranger than Kristen claiming that Jason doesn't wear
Speaker 1: his bread his wedding ring because he's up to something
Speaker 1: no good. And then we have messy as Zach, who
Speaker 1: I love, by the way, who is telling Christ and
Speaker 1: obviously Christ is in her villain era and she's owning it.
Speaker 1: She's like, you fuck with Nia, I'm a fuck with you.
Speaker 4: But she says she's ethereal.
Speaker 2: She's an ethereal villain like she was, so she was
Speaker 2: a different form of villain on vander Pump Rules, and
Speaker 2: now she's like mother villain, like Mother Earth, mother villain.
Speaker 2: Like it's almost spiritual in the way that she's a
Speaker 2: villain on the Valley, which is very different. But this
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about is that it is like
Speaker 2: it's like a separate government agency where they're all keeping
Speaker 2: files on each other and then they choose when to
Speaker 2: reveal the information and show their cards. And so this
Speaker 2: rumor about Jason Caperna about the wedding ring went back
Speaker 2: like a year and a half or something, and she said,
Speaker 2: I don't like what they're doing to Nia and Danny,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna put this card on the table, and Janet,
Speaker 2: you know, really laughed that off immediately. Jason was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, thank god, it's just that I thought
Speaker 2: it was going to be something different, But no, that's
Speaker 2: not true at all, And I just thought it's one
Speaker 2: of those other things if you really stop and think
Speaker 2: about it, of like, why are we not having these
Speaker 2: conversations when it's revealed? And by the way, shout out
Speaker 2: to Jasmine as well. A lot of this stuff seems
Speaker 2: to be coming from Jasmine, which I'm like, has anybody
Speaker 2: talked with Jasmine about why she doesn't actually talk directly
Speaker 2: to people and just really has the power behind people's backs,
Speaker 2: which I find interesting to explore. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think this is typical Dody, but just in a
Speaker 2: new a new age Dody, which I'm here for.
Speaker 4: But then you have Janet.
Speaker 2: You have two people, and Janet realizes the power of Dody,
Speaker 2: and Janet almost aspires to be Doty like and Dody.
Speaker 2: You know, Doty has had a new level of respect
Speaker 2: the last three years, but I remember a time when
Speaker 2: people were really against Doty, so it's interesting to see
Speaker 2: her come into her power and Janet really wants want
Speaker 2: that power. So if you watch this show of like
Speaker 2: a Battle for Power, it's another additional way to enjoy
Speaker 2: the show because they're all making these weird chess moves.
Speaker 2: If you look into it and Janet has studied from
Speaker 2: past seasons of Doty, so she's like I knew Dody
Speaker 2: would make this move and I knew and you're like, god,
Speaker 2: this is so calculated, Like you know, they all have binders,
Speaker 2: Like that's what I want if anybody has Janet's binder
Speaker 2: of information to use, I mean, that would be better
Speaker 2: than Monique's receipts from Potomac.
Speaker 4: Like we need find her.
Speaker 3: Yes, what are your thoughts of Jasmine?
Speaker 1: Because she is sort of under the radar, sort of
Speaker 1: like you know, discussing things like Danny's you know, lack
Speaker 1: of sobriety sort of moving things around, but she's still
Speaker 1: very much isn't as she's not as in the forefront
Speaker 1: of everything the way Kristen is. Why is that you
Speaker 1: think is that purposeful of Jasmine being very smart in
Speaker 1: terms of let me drop it and then hide my hands.
Speaker 3: What do you feel?
Speaker 4: I mean, what we have like this?
Speaker 2: I mean we now know that Jasmine obviously is a
Speaker 2: reality show veteran. She was on Nick Vile season of
Speaker 2: The Bachelor. You know, she knows her way around the
Speaker 2: credit camera. I think at one point she was about
Speaker 2: to be on BANDR Pump Rules and it didn't happen.
Speaker 4: Years and years ago.
Speaker 2: I like that they have natural friendships with these people,
Speaker 2: like I can attest that that is completely real. The
Speaker 2: thing with her, I think maybe this is also a
Speaker 2: production of using her at like key moments, like she's
Speaker 2: key in the evidence portion of Danny, the persecution of Danny,
Speaker 2: and you can't take away her experience with her girlfriend.
Speaker 4: That has to be horrific.
Speaker 2: And what I love about Jasmine was that concept that
Speaker 2: I was unfamiliar with, of man, you don't understand a
Speaker 2: lesbian relationship.
Speaker 4: We are fetishized. We are you know, we come in.
Speaker 2: People are not respecting us in the way you do
Speaker 2: with the straight relationship. And that thought was so foreign
Speaker 2: to me, and I was like, oh, wow, you're actually
Speaker 2: I'm learning something from this. But she is just as
Speaker 2: messy as the rest of them. And when the show
Speaker 2: chooses to highlight that mess like we're seeing her talk
Speaker 2: about you know, she started the Jason stuff like texting
Speaker 2: Zach and Janet, like she seems to be in that
Speaker 2: kind of Janet Kaperna lane where they really do disc
Speaker 2: collect information and talk mad shit about everybody, even if
Speaker 2: you're friends with them. And so I think Jasmine is
Speaker 2: going to be a key player in Seasons to come.
Speaker 2: You know, Zach does it in a comedia like there's
Speaker 2: all a commune. But Jasmine also gets the angriest talking
Speaker 2: about a situation after the person she's angry with has left,
Speaker 2: like Nia last week. You know, they had this conversation
Speaker 2: like and Nia's like, I just don't want you to
Speaker 2: do it behind my back and da da da, and
Speaker 2: she's like They're all like great, and then Nia leaves
Speaker 2: and everybody's like She's like, what I don't like about
Speaker 2: Nia is this? And Danny did this, and she got
Speaker 2: all fiery, and I'm like, where was that fire when
Speaker 2: Nia was there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sorry, I get wait too into this, Carlow. So I'm like, now, good.
Speaker 1: Point, listen, Ryan, points are made.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you there.
Speaker 1: When you saw Jason come front Kristen about you know,
Speaker 1: him not wearing his wedding ring, I'm kind of on
Speaker 1: Jason's side. I don't think he's doing it maliciously. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's trying to cheat on Janet.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I think Kristen is definitely just
Speaker 1: trying to like something happen.
Speaker 3: I think it fell flat.
Speaker 4: Well, it's in.
Speaker 2: It's in like that Jesse Lallely on the first first
Speaker 2: episode of like, did you start that fight about Newport
Speaker 2: Beach on purpose to bother her?
Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, of course, Like Dody is like.
Speaker 2: That, and Dody says that admittedly, if you f with somebody,
Speaker 2: I like, I'm going to come for you. And so
Speaker 2: this information has been in their back pocket for a minute.
Speaker 2: Even Luke was like, I don't know if you should
Speaker 2: be doing. I always love like people like Luke and
Speaker 2: Jason that are like, yo, this isn't like the reality showed.
Speaker 2: This isn't good for our souls in a like a way,
Speaker 2: like you can just tell there's like trouble, you know.
Speaker 2: So they're always really tentative. Even in the confrontations or
Speaker 2: Jason having to talk to Danny, you can tell they
Speaker 2: probably really stress. It natural for Dody and it just
Speaker 2: rolls off the tongue. But I don't think I think
Speaker 2: Jason obvious. I don't think Jason did anything. I truly
Speaker 2: think this was a rumor. But also the show will
Speaker 2: suss this out. Like the show, the show will uncover
Speaker 2: any sort of criminal activity.
Speaker 4: You just have to give it time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jason's doing any What I did like
Speaker 1: towards the end of the episode was obviously not only
Speaker 1: Britney sharing with the group what her and jacksonre going through.
Speaker 1: I did like the fact that we had Tom Schortz
Speaker 1: making appearance at the end of the episode.
Speaker 2: It was like, his whole career is listening to people
Speaker 2: complain about his best friends.
Speaker 4: Like, that's his whole career at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that upon is all about Sandoval, and on this show,
Speaker 1: it's all about Jack's. Brittany is confiding at him about
Speaker 1: what has been going on, and Shorts just seems to
Speaker 1: be like, look, I don't know what this has to
Speaker 1: do with me.
Speaker 3: That's your husband. I feel bad this is happening to you.
Speaker 1: But the since I got from Schwartz is that's not
Speaker 1: going to prevent me from being this guy's friend.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so what are we doing here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean there is a boy's code, there's a boy's chat,
Speaker 2: there's all of these you know, you talk about girls code,
Speaker 2: there is guys code. And at this point, if Schwartz
Speaker 2: has not left Jack's, and Schwartz is not left sand
Speaker 2: he's never going to leave.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, he's an abused friend, but he
Speaker 2: is so used to Jack's behavior that I think they're
Speaker 2: all desensitized to it. Like Brittany, like everything's coming out
Speaker 2: about Jacks from like the previous ten years of their relationship,
Speaker 2: and everybody's super aware of all of the things he's done.
Speaker 2: But Jack's has some sort of I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's star quality or charisma where everybody's like yeah, because
Speaker 2: I was like you in person, he must just be
Speaker 2: so sincere that you can't help but like almost feel
Speaker 2: bad for him or just go, well.
Speaker 4: He's been good to me. He's been good to me,
Speaker 4: and that seems to be that lane that Jax lives in.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I would love Even on the after show,
Speaker 4: Schwartz has paired up with Jesse and Jacks and Schwartz
Speaker 4: even this week's episode was just like I hate to play,
Speaker 4: you know, like I hate to be like negative about this,
Speaker 4: but like, you know, if you took care of Brittany,
Speaker 4: that would kind of be taking care of your son, right,
Speaker 4: And it's just like, dude, you have to talk to
Speaker 4: Jack's like he's a child because you're scared that he's
Speaker 4: gonna be angry at you, so you have to present
Speaker 4: your argument, which is the right argument of taking care
Speaker 4: of your son in such a delicate way. And I don't,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: There's a mystery to Jacks that I don't think is
Speaker 2: worth uncovering. But it's just in mystery how he's gotten
Speaker 2: this far doing the same behavior again and again and again.
Speaker 2: He's putting out the same album every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is why it was interesting to see
Speaker 1: the highlight of bringing a Jack sort of montage at
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I'm like, why don't they just do
Speaker 2: a full hour of montage, Like there are so many
Speaker 2: clips that you could pull from Jack's on vander Pump Rules,
Speaker 2: which they have all the footage of, and like even
Speaker 2: the never before seen stuff, like you would just do
Speaker 2: a super cut or do like a power hour for
Speaker 2: frat people to drink to of Like every minute you
Speaker 2: see a new Jack's angry, Jack's are arguing Jack's upset
Speaker 2: and you have like this entire history, Like that's why
Speaker 2: it's like open the schools. We have these ink of
Speaker 2: past Bravo shows to study and it's the same behavior
Speaker 2: and it's the same thing. You know, he'll call it
Speaker 2: work in progress or he'll call it something new.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I do want
Speaker 4: Jacks to be okay.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if reality shows are like overall
Speaker 2: good mentally. I know financially they're good, but I get
Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, the Valley could get darker. You know,
Speaker 2: we think it's dark now, it could get way darker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm hoping it doesn't because listen, it was
Speaker 1: another great episode. I really do enjoy this show because
Speaker 1: it's not about the fluff and the pompous circumstance, the money,
Speaker 1: the riches and all of that. It really is about
Speaker 1: this group of people who live in this certain part
Speaker 1: of California and they're trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3: And I like the fact that.
Speaker 1: It just feels way more normal than, like you said,
Speaker 1: on Miami Housewives or any Housewives by that matter, which
Speaker 1: is about the riches and everything else that I described earlier.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't get dark, And I think I
Speaker 1: just hope that each of these cast members take a
Speaker 1: page out of what did not work towards the end
Speaker 1: of Vanda Pump Rules and they don't allow to happen
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 4: And what would you in your opinion, what happened to
Speaker 4: vander pump Rules. Was it just the.
Speaker 1: They Oh, for sure, they drank the kool aid and
Speaker 1: everybody thought they were the Beyonce of the show. Everybody
Speaker 1: thought that they did not have to give as much
Speaker 1: reality as they normally would. They got comfortable just becoming
Speaker 1: people that we didn't recognize anymore because they became guarded
Speaker 1: because listen and listen, no blank to them, right, there's
Speaker 1: no instruction manual that one has. The moment you come
Speaker 1: from obscurity to being on a hit show. You know,
Speaker 1: they were once waiters and waitresses and hosts and hostesses,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're out of their apartment
Speaker 1: and they're living in multi million dollar homes in West
Speaker 1: Hollywood at the time. So it does something to your psyche.
Speaker 1: But you always got to keep your eyes on the prize,
Speaker 1: and that's why you don't look. Kyle isn't having the
Speaker 1: best seasons for the past couple of seas. Julie Hills
Speaker 1: Kyle Richard's, but she's the only standing o g on
Speaker 1: that show because she understands the importance of the show
Speaker 1: and her role, and I want everybody else to be
Speaker 1: that way. The same thing with Giselle Bryant, the same
Speaker 1: thing with or I'll even give you another example of
Speaker 1: what not to do. Don't do what Jersey did. Don't
Speaker 1: don't divide the cast, and don't develop an ego like
Speaker 1: stick it strictly to this is working and let's not
Speaker 1: mess up with the formula.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean to your point.
Speaker 2: I just rewatched season two of Real Housewives Beverly Hills
Speaker 2: because I was talking about the valley being so dark.
Speaker 2: And then I went back and watched season two of
Speaker 2: realized I was a Beverly Hills and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, forget what I say about the valley.
Speaker 4: That season of Beverly Hills was insanely dark.
Speaker 2: You had the coming off of Kyle, you know, calling
Speaker 2: Kim an alcoholic. You had the tailor Armstrong stuff. And
Speaker 2: by the way, I was drinking, don't watch these shows
Speaker 2: while you drink wine.
Speaker 4: Because then I.
Speaker 2: Bought a used edition of Kyle Richard's Life is Not
Speaker 2: a Reality Show. I was like, I gotta, I gotta,
Speaker 2: I gotta dig into this, I gotta, I gotta check out.
Speaker 2: And you got a little Porsche there on the cover,
Speaker 2: and I like, I bought a US copy, that's how
Speaker 2: desperate I was. But there is something too, like watching
Speaker 2: Old Kyle at how they used to produce that show
Speaker 2: and New Beverly Hills. It's so different than that second season,
Speaker 2: and so that's why I think The Valley works. It's
Speaker 2: like the second season of Beverly Hills, where it is
Speaker 2: you sense a reality there, you sense a struggle that
Speaker 2: sometimes with other Housewives iterations, you don't sense a struggle
Speaker 2: at a certain point, even though you know it's there,
Speaker 2: we're just not seeing it.
Speaker 4: And the Valley you see it.
Speaker 2: And I also hope they don't podcasts because they all
Speaker 2: have podcasts and they all have you know. But I
Speaker 2: think it's one of those shows that I really look
Speaker 2: forward to each week, and even though it shouldn't work,
Speaker 2: it completely works. I just don't know how you keep
Speaker 2: that momentum going. And that's why I'm like always so
Speaker 2: fascinated to talk to you, because I'm like, you know
Speaker 2: the inner workings of how this stuff is made, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's like you can blame it at it,
Speaker 2: you can blame this, but at the same time we
Speaker 2: are seeing a version of actual reality of their lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we are, we are, we are,
Speaker 3: and that's why for me, I just want them to
Speaker 3: stick to what it works.
Speaker 1: And I think based on how Jason I'm not Jason,
Speaker 1: how Jesse Lally came across a likable in my interview.
Speaker 2: Somebody's got a cross on Jesse. You guys, somebody's a.
Speaker 3: Question on Jesse.
Speaker 4: Do not tell Jesse check check yes or no. Jesse.
Speaker 2: There's a certain producer slash podcaster, slash entrepreneur that wants
Speaker 2: to that likes you. Are you interested to hand back
Speaker 2: this note to Bravo HQ by five o'clock on Friday.
Speaker 1: Regardless if I have a crush or Jesse or not,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving him twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Can we get it down to twelve hundred? Jesse? Jesse,
Speaker 4: if you're listening, can we can we get it down?
Speaker 2: We do want to support, like I'll even pitch it
Speaker 2: a couple bucks, But like a.
Speaker 3: Ryan, am I blushing anyway?
Speaker 1: All I'm saying Ryan is Jesse showed me that he's
Speaker 1: a work in progress.
Speaker 3: And what I want for all of the cast is
Speaker 3: to be a work in progress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Carlos have we just like taken all the
Speaker 2: power out of the phrase work in progress because we've
Speaker 2: seen Jacks try for thirteen years, so it's like you're
Speaker 2: all in no saying, but like when you say you're
Speaker 2: a work in progress on a Bravo reality show, it's
Speaker 2: attributed to Jack's and then like it almost kind of
Speaker 2: like cuts you at the knees of like, oh right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well I'll know it when I see.
Speaker 4: It, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, Laala was able to brush Jesse off like
Speaker 2: like you know, they gave Lala that easy layup with which,
Speaker 2: by the way, kind of a dumb move overall with
Speaker 2: La La because it's like, yeah, you want that moment,
Speaker 2: but if you are trying to audition for a space
Speaker 2: on the valley, you can't just cut people off like that.
Speaker 2: It's good for the moment, but that's all it is
Speaker 2: is a moment, and then it makes it reminds people
Speaker 2: of what they didn't like about her on the last
Speaker 2: season of vander Pump Rules instead of maybe a different
Speaker 2: side of La La that we haven't seen, if there
Speaker 2: is one, because you know, what is like the feeder
Speaker 2: system is house of villains traders like you know what,
Speaker 2: other whatever, other reality shows that there's a feeder system
Speaker 2: from this one. So I do wonder sometimes about these
Speaker 2: people if they feel pressure to try to get more
Speaker 2: on the valley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, awkward.
Speaker 1: I think La LA's choice should have been to not
Speaker 1: give what's expected, and it would have been a nice
Speaker 1: surprise for us to see her still be La La
Speaker 1: and spicy. But I think that she was very aggressive
Speaker 1: and that's why Jesse gave her nothing.
Speaker 3: Because he knew she was auditioning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2: Want to get popped, let's go. Also, I mean, if
Speaker 2: she was smart, she would have tried to make out
Speaker 2: with Jesse. Don't get jealous, Carla, don't get jealous. Don't
Speaker 2: don't get upset. Carlos God, it's okay, he loves you,
Speaker 2: but like you gotta let him. You gotta let him cook.
Speaker 3: You know, ah rot I to talk to you on
Speaker 3: that you are so.
Speaker 4: I know you guys.
Speaker 2: I know I overtalk, but I get so sad because
Speaker 2: I know we're like probably at the end of this,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I just love I love talking to.
Speaker 3: Carlos so much, soy please, I love our banter. I really,
Speaker 3: really do.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming into roality with the King,
Speaker 1: but you have your own very hugely, wildly successful podcast.
Speaker 1: And I, first of all not sure if I mentioned
Speaker 1: this to you. Maybe I did, but I'll do it
Speaker 1: again if I did. I really enjoyed your integration with
Speaker 1: The Valley by the way, oh thank you yea from
Speaker 1: only getting in.
Speaker 2: The car and oh yeah, I did the Valley Van,
Speaker 2: which I mean, talk about being scared out of my mind.
Speaker 2: I was in a car with Jax, Jesse and Schwartz
Speaker 2: and you know, I've talked mad shit about Jack's for
Speaker 2: years and like, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 2: do want him to be okay, but it's like we
Speaker 2: talk about these reality shows and you do, like I
Speaker 2: make jokes about it, like I'm critical about it. But
Speaker 2: he was like, do you talk shit about me? And
Speaker 2: I was like, I've had some opinions over the years,
Speaker 2: like I thought I was gonna and the dudes put
Speaker 2: on like fifteen pounds of muscle. But he was actually
Speaker 2: a super fun experience and in that way, they were
Speaker 2: all like nice guys, you know when you're dealing with
Speaker 2: them in that kind of situation. But it was like
Speaker 2: Jack's just kept saying, it's the it's the worst year
Speaker 2: of my life. This has been the worst year of
Speaker 2: my life. And Schwartz was kind of making fun of
Speaker 2: him in the backseat of like, oh, you're working PRIs.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, it's like it's it was. I felt
Speaker 2: like I was on an acid trip. I was like,
Speaker 2: there is no way I'm in this car with these
Speaker 2: three men right now.
Speaker 3: Well I've joined it. I joined it.
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Speaker 2: There's a Patreon as well, but we cover like Valley
Speaker 2: in Summerhouse and I'll do huge recaps of that.
Speaker 4: We do a pop culture round up.
Speaker 2: I had the director of that new Sherry Peppini, uh
Speaker 2: four part docu series that was insane. We just had
Speaker 2: Philip Solomon from Dealer No Deal Island. Who's actually you
Speaker 2: would love Philip Solomon. He was He was so good
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Speaker 1: based on this episode. He has such passion when it
Speaker 1: comes to these episodes, so it's always good to know
Speaker 1: that the person you're listening to loves it just just
Speaker 1: as much as we love listening to it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's it. I mean, it really is about love.
Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: I we know that sounds so cheesy, but it's like, God,
Speaker 2: I just feel so lucky to be able to talk
Speaker 2: about this stuff and whatever I can do to like
Speaker 2: keep doing this.
Speaker 4: I'm just thrilled.
Speaker 2: Like I never thought I would talk to you one day,
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