1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Ray drops On today's episode Reality with the King, We're 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: back to discuss the amazing show called The Valley and 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: the most recent episode. And I have a very special guest. 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: He's printed the show. His name is Ryan Bailey. But 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: today how about you say, Ryan, who are you today? 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Caperna, I'm Janet and Jason's third so very 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: excited to be here today as always, Oh. 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: Jan and missus Jackson, if you're nasty? What episode this? Listen? 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: This show is so freaking good. I love it so much. 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I always tell people it's sort of like the best 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: show on Brava. Right now, I can't get enough of 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: these crazy kids and Ryan, I can't wait to recap 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: this episode with you, So let's get right into it. 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: The episode begins with Danny and Jason having a conversation 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: about this alleged drinking problem that Danny has. But by 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: the way, let's just start here, Ryan, do you think 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: Danny has a drinking problem? 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: Well, listen, if. 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: You, I mean, in all honesty, if you are grabbing 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: ass and you do not remember it, that is an issue. 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 4: That is a problem. 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 3: Right. 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: Do I think he is like a daily drinker, that 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: he's like drinking rubbing alcohol? Not a chance in hell. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: But as Jason points out later in the episode, or 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: maybe it was the after show, is just like, hey, 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: if I did that, I would never drink again, Like 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: if somebody told me I did that. 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: So that's an issue. 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: But it is so interesting because this obviously happened close 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: to a year ago, and it's being pulled out for 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: the cameras, when, of course they could have had all 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: of these conversations if they were an actual friend group 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: away from the cameras. So I think you're getting this 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: like kind of double shock of my own behavior having 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: to face that, and then on top of it, like, well, 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: why didn't you tell me this when the cameras were off? 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: Why are why aren't we Why are we having these 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: conversations right now. So, I mean, I do think it's 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: a problem, but my god, we're in a cast with 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: Jax Taylor and Jesse Lally, which, by the way, you 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: should rename this to rehap with the King, because you 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: know your interview with Jesse Lally, anybody that had like 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: anybody that thinks negatively of a cast member, you should 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: they should come on this show. 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: You need to get Janet next and see what you 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: can do for Janet. 55 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: To my Lindy, let's put at the request or Janet, 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: because I really do want to get to talk to Art. 57 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: First of all, Beck, you Rye by exclusive, what Jesse 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Lally was was very fun. I lacked the guy, icked 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: the guy, and I happen to agree with you with 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: terms of the conversations that they're happened with Danny boy. 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: His drinking problem did happen a year ago. But it's 62 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: so interesting is he appears to be very shocked that 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: it is even a topic of discussion. And I think 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: a large part of it has to do with the 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: fact that he's like, are. 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: You fucking kidding me? 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: This happened a year ago, and you're waiting to tell 68 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: a fucking cannon cameras, a round with the fucking diva 69 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: light and overhead lighting and a microphone pack in our 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: Levi jeans. 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm trying to enjoy a hamburger. 72 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: We're having hamburgers and a beer, and like, I didn't 73 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: know this conversation with and this is what happens, Like 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: if Jax Taylor didn't enter a mental health facility, we 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: would not be having this conversation right now. 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: Potentially, No, totally, totally, totally. 77 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: So I had to admit I was sort of caught 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: off guard with Jason, who was pretty much trying to 79 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: tell his boy Danny that, you know, it is kind 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: of a problem because Danny's like, and I'll love a flashback. 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Danny's like, but that's not the message you said to 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: me while it is happen. And I think that this 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: is my theory. I think Janet, miss Jackson, if You're nasty, 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: had pillow talk with Jason, has said, look, motherfucker, when 85 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: you going that scene, I can't look crazy as the 86 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: only person who thinks Danny has a problem. I said 87 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: in the last episode, right, it was obvious. 88 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: Wait, but I mean, like, there is not a doubt 89 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: in my mind. 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you are in a relationship 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: like that, you that is that kind of filter is 92 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: going to happen. You are going to be affected by 93 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: your partner. And you know, Janet is running her mouth 94 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: NonStop about the potent, like she looks at this from 95 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: ten different angles. On top of being a vander Pump 96 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: Rule's reality show fan, which I'm not bashing, but she 97 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: knows how the system works. 98 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: So she even brings. 99 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: Up like, quote detective Doty, which is the name the 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: fans have given Dody over the. 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: Years, So she knows every which way. 102 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: And Jason, you know, he's just he's not a confident messenger. 103 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Luke has this a little bit as well, where they're like, 104 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: in normal life, I wouldn't be doing this, but I 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: guess I to have this tough conversation now where Janet 106 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: runs towards a tough conversation, which is what reality stars 107 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: are supposed to do. 108 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Yes, because one thing I like about miss Jackson is 109 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: the fact that Janet has never met a camera she 110 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: didn't like. You know, listen, I think it's all fair 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: in love and war in this case, in the Valley 112 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: and the rules of banda Pump she wants the gig. 113 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: She is making shit happen. One thing. 114 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: As the producer, I will say Janet is a producer's 115 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: dream because she stands on her own truth. She moves 116 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: story along, and she gives no fucks how she looks 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: as long as the camera's on her. 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: Okay, But Carlos, this is why you're perfect for This 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: is what my curiosity and I think this puts the 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: fans in this driver's seat where we're kind of swept 121 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: up in the story, but we are now in twenty 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: twenty five thinking about production and how you actually make 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: these things. 124 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: Is that Janet for the. 125 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Most part, is universally disliked by the Brav fan base, 126 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: even me and you. I'm like, I can see what 127 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: she's doing. I can see some positive stuff. It is 128 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: moving story along. But what is that like when you're 129 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: dealing with a cast member that you know is universally 130 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: disliked and you're giving them the hot potato. How do 131 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: you encourage them or keep them in the game or 132 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: is it just their own ego that keeps themselves in 133 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: the game because they've always wanted this and they don't 134 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: care how they get it. 135 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: No, that's a really good question, you have to balance 136 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: them out. 137 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: It's sort of like my study as it is a 138 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: libra you know, it's all about the tipping scales of balance, 139 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: and us libras try our best to be a balance 140 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: human being and we fell miserably at that, but we 141 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: do shout out to my libra range drops. But what 142 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: I will say is you have to balance someone out. 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: So obviously, when I worked on Atlanta Housewives in Jersey, 144 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Kenya Moore and Danielle stob right to two totally different women, 145 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: it's something. They're there their place on this on their 146 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: respective shows, but are called a villain by the Bravo audience. 147 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: So you always try to find your best to show 148 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: the softer side of them, like the Sharman tissue. Let's 149 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: see the softer side of you. 150 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: So like next episode, we're gonna get a scene with 151 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: Janet and her baby potentially. 152 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Right, yes, yes, yes, you want to be The thing 153 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: is this Janet doesn't mind doing her job, and her 154 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: job is and this is when I say job, not 155 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: that she's being a character. We all have our different 156 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: personality traits. That's true to us, right, So when I 157 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: say her job, she knows that her personality is. She 158 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: likes to be nosy, she likes to say what it is, 159 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and yes, she has the propensity to understand that. 160 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: I know how TV works. 161 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of it, but when you're producing someone 162 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: like Janet, you do have to rull her back sometime to. 163 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: Say, look, be messy on you want to we love 164 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: it here. 165 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: However, let's balance you out because you don't want a 166 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Janet to quit the show because then it's sort of 167 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: like Jackson rehaff So, who the fuck do we have 168 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: to start the pot? 169 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's like the big question even in 170 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: this episode, because we have the first appearance of Lala. 171 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: She know, we had an appearance of last week on 172 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: the hike with Michelle, but you know, Lala has her 173 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: scene with Jesse, and you know, my thought is is 174 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: this always planned or were they not scrambling? But like, 175 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: let's do plan B. Now that Jacks is gone for 176 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: seven episodes, let's try to protect this cast with additions, 177 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: even though it does in my personal opinion, it does 178 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: not need this like Lala. 179 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: I mean that's like a that's giving. 180 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: Like an easy hit to Lala, Like, oh, say something 181 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: crappy about Jesse. You can talk about narcissism and walk off, 182 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: and then Sheena, you know, jumps into the scene like 183 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: classic Sheena. But does it really need that? And and 184 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: why do they throw those things in? Was it because 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: of Jack's Was that always the plan? 186 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: Great question. I think it's a little bit of both. Right. 187 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: What I'm starting to see is is this number one. 188 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: We all know that at the end of the day, 189 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: rain Drops the Valley is the quiet spinoff of Vanda 190 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Pump Rules. It's sort of the thing that no one 191 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: wants to really talk about. It's a marketing. 192 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well, I mean why do you why do 193 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: you think it's quiet? I mean because for me, I 194 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: just call it like vander Pump Junior, you know. 195 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: Because people got fired for misbehaving. 196 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is like vander Pump with knee problems, 197 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: like as you get older, this is what happens, you know. 198 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: But I totally I totally get that. 199 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think that's the reason why 200 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: it's like this quiet spinoff, although we kind of know 201 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: what it is. So to answer your question when it 202 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: comes to La La number one, I agree with you. 203 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't think we need Laala, and I'm a fan 204 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: of Laala I think the reason why she was brought back. Yes, 205 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to Jack's you sort of need that. 206 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: That's spitfire. 207 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: That's number one. 208 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: Number two, you want a test to kind of see 209 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: the chemistry that a notable face has with this new 210 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: crop of people. That's number two and number three, which 211 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: to me is the most important. The way Bravo sort 212 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: of sees Housewives as like a soap opera where a 213 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: character leaves and in the world of soap opera, dies 214 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: off and then comes back to Like we're seeing that 215 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: for Paja Parks on Atlanta Housewives. You last saw her 216 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: season nine. She's back for season sixteen. There was a 217 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: seven year gap of no Fadra. Now that she's back, 218 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: everyone presumably is happy. So with La La, it's sort 219 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: of like, let's bring back these characters that the audience 220 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: familiar with. But I think the reason why we all 221 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: love the valley so much is because it's its own specialness. 222 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: And when I see La La La La to me 223 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: will always be bound the plumb rules. Kristin to me, 224 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: And when I say this here met guys, Kristin to 225 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: me fits way more on this show than band the 226 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: pump rules because she fits this world and to me 227 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: on Banda Pump. 228 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: Rules La La Arianna Sheena, they fit that world of 229 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: like we were Bartender, we made a bigger Hollywood in 230 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 5: the entertainment industry, and here we are here us roar 231 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 5: where I think the Valley gives me very much suburban lifestyle. 232 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean don't like last episode they're moving into 233 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: their rental house, you know, in preparation of a family, 234 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: and that is very different than you know, a Jax 235 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: Taylor buying a home with Vander Pump money and then 236 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: you know, obviously you know, not paying the bills for 237 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: three months because he's living beyond its means. You know, 238 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: there's something so like earthy obviously about Dody where it's 239 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: very valley related and not star driven where Lala, you're right, 240 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: Like I watched that premiere of the new season of 241 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: Real Housewives in Miami which comes out in a couple 242 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: of weeks, and. 243 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: I loved it. 244 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: But they were like they're dressed up like superheroes the 245 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: whole time, Like they are so done up in every 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: scene and I loved it. But that's not the valley. 247 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: None of these people are done to the nines. I 248 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: love that, and I wouldn't even say it's aspirational, but 249 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: there is something recognizable about the valley that we. 250 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 4: Can relate to. 251 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: The only thing that I would say is the glaring 252 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: issue is that in no way can we call this 253 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: truly a friend group. Like, you know, if you are 254 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: constantly talking mad you know, sahi t to everybody about 255 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: the person you should be having in the conversation with, 256 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: you would not hang out with that person eventually. So 257 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: it's like this thin tether that keeps all of these 258 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: people together. And that thin tether is just TV. It's 259 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: just the fact of commerce and TV. 260 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: No, it really is, it really, it really is. 261 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: And what they're going to have to figure out is 262 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: sort of like how they can make sense for the 263 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: show to last multiple seasons with exacting. 264 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: That they're real friends. 265 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Because again, that's the reason why I've had the pot 266 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: rules have to be recast, because it was it was 267 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: glaringly obvious that they just weren't friends. I want to 268 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: get into what you mentioned about Jackson not paying the 269 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: mortgage for three months. 270 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Classic Jacks, by the way, classic Jacks. Well, Jackson is dangerous. Yes, 271 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: a month, three months, and Brittany was paying for the 272 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: airbnb rental on top of that, and then in this 273 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: episode he just slides it out there to Brittany that 274 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: he assigned a lease on a new place right next 275 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: to Tom Schwartz like and having not still paid the 276 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: rent on the actual property that they own. 277 00:13:49,960 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with 278 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into 279 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: the show. To my female listeners, if I didn't learn 280 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: one thing from Teresa Judais going to prison, if you 281 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: read every document your husband putting in front of you 282 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: to sign, that's number one, but number two, know what 283 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: the fuck your husband's doing. You need to listen. I 284 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: want to see the castle check. I want to be 285 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: able to log in if you're paying a mortgage in 286 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, there's a website that you log into. 287 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: Carlo by Carlos here. 288 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: I think at this point, if something happens, we know 289 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: that Brittany and Jackson will get a full pardon. I 290 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: think with recent events, so I think they're safe. I 291 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: think they're safe. I think that's a good third season 292 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: of the Valley. Jackson Brittany get a full pardon for 293 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: any financial misdeeds. But no, you're right, it is shocking 294 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: that they live such public lives and then you realize 295 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: that their private lives are disastrous in some ways, but 296 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: also just the financial aspect of it, which is somewhat 297 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: aspirational to all of us of like, oh wow, they 298 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: can buy cool things. Is that is just full of 299 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: smoke as well. It's all smoke and mirrors, and that 300 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: to me is fascinating to watch the dissolution of even 301 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: though it's really painful to think about their reality. 302 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: No, it's really painful, but it's such an asshole thing 303 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: of Jacks because at the end of the day, this 304 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: is the mother of your child. 305 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: So to risk your child being homeless. 306 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you have enough money to sign a lease to 307 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: live next door to Tom Schwartz, who isn't the babysitter, 308 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So to need cops 309 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: decision is horrible. 310 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: We need to siphon off all of Jackson's Cameo money 311 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: right to Brittany. It should go well, we should contact Cameo, 312 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: but it like I don't. 313 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: That's the thing. And even Jesse brings. 314 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: Us up to a degree too of like the daughter 315 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: or the son and these things, and it makes for good. 316 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: Clips but I'm like, where is the action. 317 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: Jackson will talk till he's blue in the face of 318 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: like I do I'm doing this for my son. I'm 319 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: doing this for my kid, and then when it comes 320 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: down to it, he doesn't do any of the things 321 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: that he knows would be good for his family and 322 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: to put his son above himself, and that never happens. 323 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we've lived since twenty thirteen with the character 324 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: of Jax Taylor. He has not really changed that much 325 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: except he has new like buzzwords to speak about, and 326 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: he's able to use therapy as a protection. 327 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: Now. 328 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: You know, even in the after show, which, by the way, 329 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: the Valley After Show, I so recommend on Peacock. It's 330 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: like thirty minutes each week, but they speak and give 331 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: it more context, and he's like, yeah, I picked a 332 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: park to have that hard conversation with Brittany, and I 333 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: brought my therapist along so you know, they could back 334 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: me up in what I was doing with moving out. 335 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: I want to know what facility this man has gone to, 336 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: because it sounds so lax. He's able to go back home, 337 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: fiddle with the cameras to watch Brittany, He's able to 338 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: be on his phone the entire time. I don't know 339 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: a lot about the mental health industry in terms of 340 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: like rehab, but like it sounds like it's really loose. 341 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 4: Well that's the thing. 342 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: So apparently it's not even a rehab because in real 343 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: rehab you can't leave the premises for a certain amount 344 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: of days minimumly thirty. So it's I agree with you, 345 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: it's it's I don't understand the facility he's in. I 346 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: don't understand why he's able to go to a park 347 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: and with his therapist and see his kids and they 348 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: have to go back to the to the rehab station, 349 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: but also am able to mess with the cameras he's 350 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: watching Brittany, telling her I know what you're wearing. It's 351 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: it's super gross and super controlling in how he's treating Brittany. 352 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: And I know Brittany isn't the favorite of the show, 353 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: but no woman deserves to be to succumb to that 354 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: sort of mental abuse that he's displaying with her by 355 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: telling her I'm watching you, I'm not paying the mortgage 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: and Beth bah blah. 357 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: Well that's I mean. 358 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: That's the other thing is that the audience then goes 359 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: into production mode of like, how does a producer determine 360 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: when it's too far? Like obviously they helped or forced 361 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: him into this facility in the first place, you know, 362 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: because they were filming with him. 363 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: It went too far. 364 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: But when somebody is doing this many things like where 365 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: is the point where it does cross this. 366 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: Line of like we can't work with you. These are threats, even. 367 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: Though you're saying they are not, it does get to 368 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: a scary place. Like last episode Lala and the after 369 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: show or no, maybe it was Lalla's podcast or something 370 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: was saying listen, I told Brittany to get out of 371 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: there because I thought she was gonna get hurt if 372 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: she didn't. And I was like, now we're talking or 373 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: insinuating physical violence. 374 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: You know. 375 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, reality shows, as you know, have 376 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: changed so much in terms of like what behavior actually 377 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: is acceptable. And I think a lot of behavior obviously 378 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 2: is still acceptable. But where as a producer, I mean, 379 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: we've seen it with James Kennedy, We've seen it with 380 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: all of these people. Where do you draw that line 381 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: and still worry about the overall health of the show. 382 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. 383 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: I think it's something where Brittany has to say out 384 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: loud to them she feels unsafe, right because at the 385 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, they're not paying for the house 386 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: we need. 387 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 3: The production is Brittany's house. It's her situation. 388 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: So if she feels unsafe in her own home, the 389 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: only thing a production can do. 390 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: And I'm not a lawyer, but I just base his office. 391 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: Being a producer is sort of making sure the crew 392 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: is not in the house, making sure she has resources 393 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: to live other places, if you know what I mean. 394 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: But first thing first, she has. 395 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: To vocalize it, because you don't want to step into 396 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: someone's reality and alter it, because God forbid, if you 397 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: do that, something else could happen. And it's because you 398 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: remove somebody from their normal behavior and you're placing them 399 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: in the hands of something else where. They didn't ask 400 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: for you to do that, so it is very tricky. 401 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: But first thing first, Brittany has to first say this 402 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: and explain to them why apparently that hasn't happened yet. Now, 403 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: look in Jackson Fence, they're having verbo spats that we've 404 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: seen across all of these shows. 405 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: I want to make that very clear. 406 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Nothing has gone physical, at least from what Brittany has said, 407 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: all of it just appears to be this asshole of 408 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: a husband she has who is doing asshole shit. And 409 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there's tons of assholes 410 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: who are on all across reality television for being that. 411 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: But and that's not criminal, and that's not criminal. 412 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: That is not criminal to be an asshole, whether you're 413 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: a male or female. Brittany safe word needs to be Bravo, Bravo, 414 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: effing bravo with production, like, if she feels safe, just 415 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: throw that out there and they've got Brittany. 416 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: But I will say also, like do we need Jax Taylor, Like, 417 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: you know. 418 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: Obviously he's not coming back. I think till episode ten, 419 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: the show is sailing along without him. And of course 420 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: we have these little like Blair Witch camera things you know, 421 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: of him checking in, but we don't necessarily. 422 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: Need that because we get it. I mean, it will 423 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: be necessary. 424 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: It will be definitely exciting when he comes back to 425 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: see how he tries to maneuver within the framework that's 426 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: been set up after he left. And you'll, you know 427 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: that if anything, it's like I thought this was Sandobal 428 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: as well, is that the only thing they truly love 429 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 2: is themselves and the show. Like Jackson's like big argument 430 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: with Britney leaving was that you took my dream for 431 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: me and his dream sadly enough, was to get back 432 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: on reality television. 433 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: He said that. 434 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. 435 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they talked about it more on the after show too. 436 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: Was that he was like Brittany was like he. 437 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 4: Said, he I took his dream away from him and 438 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: how dare I do this? Because you know, she was 439 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: the one. 440 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: I think that maybe tipped off production, that it was 441 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: in a really bad place because remember he threw the 442 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 2: chair that we saw the broken chair of in that 443 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: first or second episode. Yeah, well the king, the King 444 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: has paused. 445 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: Wow, well Beth. 446 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. 447 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, when it comes to Jack's, I 448 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: think what we have seen is the show must go on. 449 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: I tell everybody all the time, everyone is replaceable. No 450 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: matter how iconic you are, you are replaceable. When it 451 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: comes to Jack's, Look, the storyline is still alive without 452 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: him being there because he's misbehaving. Wherever he is child rehab. 453 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: Or he's a David Busters Janet loves. 454 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: It, Okay, Yeah, so wherever he's at, the stories alive. 455 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it has to do 456 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: with what his behavior is at this upcoming reunion that 457 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: they already shot weeks ago. 458 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: But as of now, as of now, the. 459 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: Season is great without him, and listen, as a reality star, 460 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: that's not what you want to hear. 461 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: Well, this show is like the Little Engine that could, 462 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: because when it came on, we were all like, who 463 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: needs this show? 464 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm not going to watch this show, And then it 465 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: turned out to be great. 466 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: And then you lose cast members like Jacks and things 467 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: like that, and it still works, and it works in 468 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: this kind of mess of a way where I was noticing, 469 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, I say this every week or every day 470 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: of like this show is so dark, but I don't 471 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: say it in a negative way. 472 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: That's what I've signed up to watch. 473 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: Like, if I want to go watch lighthearted drama, I'll 474 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: go to Summerhouse or another show. But if I want dark, 475 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: there are so there's such darkness, like. 476 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: It truly is. 477 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: Like I said at the very last episode of The Valley, 478 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna find out that it was actually they were 479 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: in hell the whole time. It'll be like, oh, this 480 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: was actually hell. Oh that's why they kept saying it 481 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: was so hot in the Valley. It's in the hell 482 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: because it is any way you cut it. And then 483 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: on top of it, they have kids. So when they 484 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: show the kids like Isabella or something, it really like 485 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: floors you because you're like, oh my god, we never change. 486 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: We never change. We only just make like small adjustments 487 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: to our lives. And I'm curious to see Jesse Lalley 488 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: next season, like because you can almost forgive certain aspects, 489 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: like he had that great talking head of like, Okay, 490 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: she is a liar and a cheater, but maybe I 491 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: shouldn't have said whore, you know, Like he's still with 492 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: those two things. So I'm curious what his behavior is 493 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: like a year from now, once the actual anger and 494 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: resentment dissipates, if it ever does, to see who Jesse 495 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: really is, Like is he a villain? Is he a 496 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: bad guy? Or is he somebody that like really misjudged 497 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: actions in a relationship and lost something that he never 498 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: thought he would lose. But he's not like vindictive in 499 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: the entirety of his life. 500 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree. 501 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: He gives me like this bad boy who really tries 502 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: to do right, but he's battled between both worlds. 503 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: So Charlae, wait, wait, Carlos, would you ever, wait, would 504 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 4: you ever send Jesse Lalley twenty five hundred dollars Venmo 505 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: for his birthday? Would you ever send him money. 506 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: If I was a girl? No? 507 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean remember that was on the episode a couple 508 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, is that we found out get a 509 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: gay man sent him money, and then they repealed it 510 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: was twenty five hundred dollars on his birthday, and I 511 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 2: was like, that's a great friend. 512 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a gay man, I think another straight well, 513 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: as a gay man sending a straight man twenty five 514 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, I'm not doing that under any circumstance. 515 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: If I'm a girl and I'm. 516 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: Sitting this hot guy, twenty five hundred dollars is because 517 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: I want them. 518 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: So, guys, everybody, Benmo requests Carlos today, twenty five hundred dollars. 519 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: Everybody everybody listening, ring drops. Benmo requests Carlos. 520 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: You can find me under my government name. I'm teasy. 521 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: I did think that was strange, but nothing to me 522 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: was more stranger than Kristen claiming that Jason doesn't wear 523 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: his bread his wedding ring because he's up to something 524 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: no good. And then we have messy as Zach, who 525 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: I love, by the way, who is telling Christ and 526 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: obviously Christ is in her villain era and she's owning it. 527 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: She's like, you fuck with Nia, I'm a fuck with you. 528 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: But she says she's ethereal. 529 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: She's an ethereal villain like she was, so she was 530 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: a different form of villain on vander Pump Rules, and 531 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: now she's like mother villain, like Mother Earth, mother villain. 532 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: Like it's almost spiritual in the way that she's a 533 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: villain on the Valley, which is very different. But this 534 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about is that it is like 535 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: it's like a separate government agency where they're all keeping 536 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: files on each other and then they choose when to 537 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: reveal the information and show their cards. And so this 538 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: rumor about Jason Caperna about the wedding ring went back 539 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: like a year and a half or something, and she said, 540 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: I don't like what they're doing to Nia and Danny, 541 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna put this card on the table, and Janet, 542 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: you know, really laughed that off immediately. Jason was like, 543 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: oh my god, thank god, it's just that I thought 544 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: it was going to be something different, But no, that's 545 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: not true at all, And I just thought it's one 546 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: of those other things if you really stop and think 547 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: about it, of like, why are we not having these 548 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: conversations when it's revealed? And by the way, shout out 549 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: to Jasmine as well. A lot of this stuff seems 550 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: to be coming from Jasmine, which I'm like, has anybody 551 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: talked with Jasmine about why she doesn't actually talk directly 552 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: to people and just really has the power behind people's backs, 553 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: which I find interesting to explore. But yeah, I mean, 554 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: I think this is typical Dody, but just in a 555 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: new a new age Dody, which I'm here for. 556 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: But then you have Janet. 557 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: You have two people, and Janet realizes the power of Dody, 558 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: and Janet almost aspires to be Doty like and Dody. 559 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: You know, Doty has had a new level of respect 560 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: the last three years, but I remember a time when 561 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: people were really against Doty, so it's interesting to see 562 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: her come into her power and Janet really wants want 563 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: that power. So if you watch this show of like 564 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: a Battle for Power, it's another additional way to enjoy 565 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: the show because they're all making these weird chess moves. 566 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: If you look into it and Janet has studied from 567 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: past seasons of Doty, so she's like I knew Dody 568 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: would make this move and I knew and you're like, god, 569 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: this is so calculated, Like you know, they all have binders, 570 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: Like that's what I want if anybody has Janet's binder 571 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: of information to use, I mean, that would be better 572 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: than Monique's receipts from Potomac. 573 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: Like we need find her. 574 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: Yes, what are your thoughts of Jasmine? 575 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: Because she is sort of under the radar, sort of 576 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: like you know, discussing things like Danny's you know, lack 577 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: of sobriety sort of moving things around, but she's still 578 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: very much isn't as she's not as in the forefront 579 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: of everything the way Kristen is. Why is that you 580 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: think is that purposeful of Jasmine being very smart in 581 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: terms of let me drop it and then hide my hands. 582 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: What do you feel? 583 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: I mean, what we have like this? 584 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: I mean we now know that Jasmine obviously is a 585 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: reality show veteran. She was on Nick Vile season of 586 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: The Bachelor. You know, she knows her way around the 587 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: credit camera. I think at one point she was about 588 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: to be on BANDR Pump Rules and it didn't happen. 589 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: Years and years ago. 590 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: I like that they have natural friendships with these people, 591 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: like I can attest that that is completely real. The 592 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: thing with her, I think maybe this is also a 593 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: production of using her at like key moments, like she's 594 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: key in the evidence portion of Danny, the persecution of Danny, 595 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: and you can't take away her experience with her girlfriend. 596 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 4: That has to be horrific. 597 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: And what I love about Jasmine was that concept that 598 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: I was unfamiliar with, of man, you don't understand a 599 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: lesbian relationship. 600 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: We are fetishized. We are you know, we come in. 601 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: People are not respecting us in the way you do 602 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: with the straight relationship. And that thought was so foreign 603 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: to me, and I was like, oh, wow, you're actually 604 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm learning something from this. But she is just as 605 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: messy as the rest of them. And when the show 606 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: chooses to highlight that mess like we're seeing her talk 607 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: about you know, she started the Jason stuff like texting 608 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 2: Zach and Janet, like she seems to be in that 609 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: kind of Janet Kaperna lane where they really do disc 610 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: collect information and talk mad shit about everybody, even if 611 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: you're friends with them. And so I think Jasmine is 612 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: going to be a key player in Seasons to come. 613 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: You know, Zach does it in a comedia like there's 614 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: all a commune. But Jasmine also gets the angriest talking 615 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: about a situation after the person she's angry with has left, 616 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: like Nia last week. You know, they had this conversation 617 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: like and Nia's like, I just don't want you to 618 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: do it behind my back and da da da, and 619 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 2: she's like They're all like great, and then Nia leaves 620 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: and everybody's like She's like, what I don't like about 621 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: Nia is this? And Danny did this, and she got 622 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: all fiery, and I'm like, where was that fire when 623 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Nia was there? 624 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 625 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: Sorry, I get wait too into this, Carlow. So I'm like, now, good. 626 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: Point, listen, Ryan, points are made. 627 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: So I'm with you there. 628 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: When you saw Jason come front Kristen about you know, 629 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: him not wearing his wedding ring, I'm kind of on 630 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Jason's side. I don't think he's doing it maliciously. I 631 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: don't think he's trying to cheat on Janet. 632 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: No. 633 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: I just you know, I think Kristen is definitely just 634 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: trying to like something happen. 635 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: I think it fell flat. 636 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's in. 637 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: It's in like that Jesse Lallely on the first first 638 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: episode of like, did you start that fight about Newport 639 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: Beach on purpose to bother her? 640 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, of course, Like Dody is like. 641 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: That, and Dody says that admittedly, if you f with somebody, 642 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: I like, I'm going to come for you. And so 643 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: this information has been in their back pocket for a minute. 644 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: Even Luke was like, I don't know if you should 645 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: be doing. I always love like people like Luke and 646 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: Jason that are like, yo, this isn't like the reality showed. 647 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: This isn't good for our souls in a like a way, 648 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: like you can just tell there's like trouble, you know. 649 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: So they're always really tentative. Even in the confrontations or 650 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: Jason having to talk to Danny, you can tell they 651 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: probably really stress. It natural for Dody and it just 652 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: rolls off the tongue. But I don't think I think 653 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: Jason obvious. I don't think Jason did anything. I truly 654 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: think this was a rumor. But also the show will 655 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: suss this out. Like the show, the show will uncover 656 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: any sort of criminal activity. 657 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 4: You just have to give it time. 658 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. 659 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't think Jason's doing any What I did like 660 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: towards the end of the episode was obviously not only 661 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: Britney sharing with the group what her and jacksonre going through. 662 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: I did like the fact that we had Tom Schortz 663 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: making appearance at the end of the episode. 664 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: It was like, his whole career is listening to people 665 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: complain about his best friends. 666 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 4: Like, that's his whole career at this point. 667 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that upon is all about Sandoval, and on this show, 668 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: it's all about Jack's. Brittany is confiding at him about 669 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: what has been going on, and Shorts just seems to 670 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: be like, look, I don't know what this has to 671 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: do with me. 672 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: That's your husband. I feel bad this is happening to you. 673 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: But the since I got from Schwartz is that's not 674 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: going to prevent me from being this guy's friend. 675 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so what are we doing here? Yeah? 676 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: I mean there is a boy's code, there's a boy's chat, 677 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: there's all of these you know, you talk about girls code, 678 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: there is guys code. And at this point, if Schwartz 679 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: has not left Jack's, and Schwartz is not left sand 680 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: he's never going to leave. 681 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying. 682 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: He's like, you know, he's an abused friend, but he 683 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: is so used to Jack's behavior that I think they're 684 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: all desensitized to it. Like Brittany, like everything's coming out 685 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: about Jacks from like the previous ten years of their relationship, 686 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: and everybody's super aware of all of the things he's done. 687 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: But Jack's has some sort of I don't know if 688 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: it's star quality or charisma where everybody's like yeah, because 689 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: I was like you in person, he must just be 690 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: so sincere that you can't help but like almost feel 691 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: bad for him or just go, well. 692 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: He's been good to me. He's been good to me, 693 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 4: and that seems to be that lane that Jax lives in. 694 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, I would love Even on the after show, 695 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: Schwartz has paired up with Jesse and Jacks and Schwartz 696 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: even this week's episode was just like I hate to play, 697 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: you know, like I hate to be like negative about this, 698 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: but like, you know, if you took care of Brittany, 699 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: that would kind of be taking care of your son, right, 700 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: And it's just like, dude, you have to talk to 701 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: Jack's like he's a child because you're scared that he's 702 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: gonna be angry at you, so you have to present 703 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: your argument, which is the right argument of taking care 704 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 4: of your son in such a delicate way. And I don't, 705 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: I don't. 706 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: There's a mystery to Jacks that I don't think is 707 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: worth uncovering. But it's just in mystery how he's gotten 708 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: this far doing the same behavior again and again and again. 709 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: He's putting out the same album every year. 710 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is why it was interesting to see 711 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: the highlight of bringing a Jack sort of montage at 712 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: the end. 713 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I'm like, why don't they just do 714 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: a full hour of montage, Like there are so many 715 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: clips that you could pull from Jack's on vander Pump Rules, 716 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: which they have all the footage of, and like even 717 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: the never before seen stuff, like you would just do 718 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: a super cut or do like a power hour for 719 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: frat people to drink to of Like every minute you 720 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: see a new Jack's angry, Jack's are arguing Jack's upset 721 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: and you have like this entire history, Like that's why 722 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: it's like open the schools. We have these ink of 723 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 2: past Bravo shows to study and it's the same behavior 724 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: and it's the same thing. You know, he'll call it 725 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: work in progress or he'll call it something new. 726 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I do want 727 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 4: Jacks to be okay. 728 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: I just don't know if reality shows are like overall 729 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: good mentally. I know financially they're good, but I get 730 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, the Valley could get darker. You know, 731 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: we think it's dark now, it could get way darker. 732 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm hoping it doesn't because listen, it was 733 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: another great episode. I really do enjoy this show because 734 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: it's not about the fluff and the pompous circumstance, the money, 735 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: the riches and all of that. It really is about 736 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: this group of people who live in this certain part 737 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: of California and they're trying to figure things out. 738 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: And I like the fact that. 739 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: It just feels way more normal than, like you said, 740 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: on Miami Housewives or any Housewives by that matter, which 741 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 1: is about the riches and everything else that I described earlier. 742 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: So I'm with you. 743 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't get dark, And I think I 744 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: just hope that each of these cast members take a 745 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: page out of what did not work towards the end 746 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: of Vanda Pump Rules and they don't allow to happen 747 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: to them. 748 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 4: And what would you in your opinion, what happened to 749 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 4: vander pump Rules. Was it just the. 750 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: They Oh, for sure, they drank the kool aid and 751 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: everybody thought they were the Beyonce of the show. Everybody 752 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: thought that they did not have to give as much 753 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: reality as they normally would. They got comfortable just becoming 754 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: people that we didn't recognize anymore because they became guarded 755 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: because listen and listen, no blank to them, right, there's 756 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: no instruction manual that one has. The moment you come 757 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: from obscurity to being on a hit show. You know, 758 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: they were once waiters and waitresses and hosts and hostesses, 759 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're out of their apartment 760 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: and they're living in multi million dollar homes in West 761 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: Hollywood at the time. So it does something to your psyche. 762 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: But you always got to keep your eyes on the prize, 763 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: and that's why you don't look. Kyle isn't having the 764 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: best seasons for the past couple of seas. Julie Hills 765 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: Kyle Richard's, but she's the only standing o g on 766 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: that show because she understands the importance of the show 767 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: and her role, and I want everybody else to be 768 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: that way. The same thing with Giselle Bryant, the same 769 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: thing with or I'll even give you another example of 770 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: what not to do. Don't do what Jersey did. Don't 771 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: don't divide the cast, and don't develop an ego like 772 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: stick it strictly to this is working and let's not 773 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: mess up with the formula. 774 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 4: Well, I mean to your point. 775 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 2: I just rewatched season two of Real Housewives Beverly Hills 776 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: because I was talking about the valley being so dark. 777 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: And then I went back and watched season two of 778 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: realized I was a Beverly Hills and I was like, oh 779 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: my god, forget what I say about the valley. 780 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 4: That season of Beverly Hills was insanely dark. 781 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 2: You had the coming off of Kyle, you know, calling 782 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 2: Kim an alcoholic. You had the tailor Armstrong stuff. And 783 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,479 Speaker 2: by the way, I was drinking, don't watch these shows 784 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: while you drink wine. 785 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 4: Because then I. 786 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: Bought a used edition of Kyle Richard's Life is Not 787 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: a Reality Show. I was like, I gotta, I gotta, 788 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: I gotta dig into this, I gotta, I gotta check out. 789 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: And you got a little Porsche there on the cover, 790 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: and I like, I bought a US copy, that's how 791 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: desperate I was. But there is something too, like watching 792 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: Old Kyle at how they used to produce that show 793 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: and New Beverly Hills. It's so different than that second season, 794 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: and so that's why I think The Valley works. It's 795 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: like the second season of Beverly Hills, where it is 796 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: you sense a reality there, you sense a struggle that 797 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: sometimes with other Housewives iterations, you don't sense a struggle 798 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: at a certain point, even though you know it's there, 799 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: we're just not seeing it. 800 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 4: And the Valley you see it. 801 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: And I also hope they don't podcasts because they all 802 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 2: have podcasts and they all have you know. But I 803 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: think it's one of those shows that I really look 804 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: forward to each week, and even though it shouldn't work, 805 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: it completely works. I just don't know how you keep 806 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 2: that momentum going. And that's why I'm like always so 807 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: fascinated to talk to you, because I'm like, you know 808 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: the inner workings of how this stuff is made, and 809 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's like you can blame it at it, 810 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: you can blame this, but at the same time we 811 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: are seeing a version of actual reality of their lives. 812 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we are, we are, we are, 813 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: and that's why for me, I just want them to 814 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: stick to what it works. 815 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: And I think based on how Jason I'm not Jason, 816 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: how Jesse Lally came across a likable in my interview. 817 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: Somebody's got a cross on Jesse. You guys, somebody's a. 818 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 3: Question on Jesse. 819 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 4: Do not tell Jesse check check yes or no. Jesse. 820 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 2: There's a certain producer slash podcaster, slash entrepreneur that wants 821 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: to that likes you. Are you interested to hand back 822 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: this note to Bravo HQ by five o'clock on Friday. 823 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: Regardless if I have a crush or Jesse or not, 824 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm not giving him twenty five hundred dollars. 825 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 4: Can we get it down to twelve hundred? Jesse? Jesse, 826 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 4: if you're listening, can we can we get it down? 827 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: We do want to support, like I'll even pitch it 828 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 2: a couple bucks, But like a. 829 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 3: Ryan, am I blushing anyway? 830 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 1: All I'm saying Ryan is Jesse showed me that he's 831 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: a work in progress. 832 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: And what I want for all of the cast is 833 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: to be a work in progress. 834 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Carlos have we just like taken all the 835 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 2: power out of the phrase work in progress because we've 836 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 2: seen Jacks try for thirteen years, so it's like you're 837 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: all in no saying, but like when you say you're 838 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: a work in progress on a Bravo reality show, it's 839 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: attributed to Jack's and then like it almost kind of 840 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: like cuts you at the knees of like, oh right, yeah, okay, 841 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: well I'll know it when I see. 842 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 4: It, you know. 843 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 2: I mean, Laala was able to brush Jesse off like 844 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: like you know, they gave Lala that easy layup with which, 845 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: by the way, kind of a dumb move overall with 846 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: La La because it's like, yeah, you want that moment, 847 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 2: but if you are trying to audition for a space 848 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 2: on the valley, you can't just cut people off like that. 849 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 2: It's good for the moment, but that's all it is 850 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 2: is a moment, and then it makes it reminds people 851 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: of what they didn't like about her on the last 852 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: season of vander Pump Rules instead of maybe a different 853 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: side of La La that we haven't seen, if there 854 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: is one, because you know, what is like the feeder 855 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: system is house of villains traders like you know what, 856 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: other whatever, other reality shows that there's a feeder system 857 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: from this one. So I do wonder sometimes about these 858 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 2: people if they feel pressure to try to get more 859 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: on the valley. 860 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, awkward. 861 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: I think La LA's choice should have been to not 862 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: give what's expected, and it would have been a nice 863 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: surprise for us to see her still be La La 864 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: and spicy. But I think that she was very aggressive 865 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: and that's why Jesse gave her nothing. 866 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 3: Because he knew she was auditioning. 867 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you. 868 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 2: Want to get popped, let's go. Also, I mean, if 869 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 2: she was smart, she would have tried to make out 870 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: with Jesse. Don't get jealous, Carla, don't get jealous. Don't 871 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 2: don't get upset. Carlos God, it's okay, he loves you, 872 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: but like you gotta let him. You gotta let him cook. 873 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 3: You know, ah rot I to talk to you on 874 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: that you are so. 875 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 4: I know you guys. 876 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: I know I overtalk, but I get so sad because 877 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: I know we're like probably at the end of this, 878 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I just love I love talking to. 879 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: Carlos so much, soy please, I love our banter. I really, 880 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: really do. 881 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming into roality with the King, 882 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: but you have your own very hugely, wildly successful podcast. 883 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: And I, first of all not sure if I mentioned 884 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: this to you. Maybe I did, but I'll do it 885 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: again if I did. I really enjoyed your integration with 886 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: The Valley by the way, oh thank you yea from 887 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: only getting in. 888 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: The car and oh yeah, I did the Valley Van, 889 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 2: which I mean, talk about being scared out of my mind. 890 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 2: I was in a car with Jax, Jesse and Schwartz 891 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 2: and you know, I've talked mad shit about Jack's for 892 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: years and like, at the end of the day, I 893 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 2: do want him to be okay, but it's like we 894 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: talk about these reality shows and you do, like I 895 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: make jokes about it, like I'm critical about it. But 896 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: he was like, do you talk shit about me? And 897 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 2: I was like, I've had some opinions over the years, 898 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: like I thought I was gonna and the dudes put 899 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: on like fifteen pounds of muscle. But he was actually 900 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: a super fun experience and in that way, they were 901 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: all like nice guys, you know when you're dealing with 902 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: them in that kind of situation. But it was like 903 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: Jack's just kept saying, it's the it's the worst year 904 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: of my life. This has been the worst year of 905 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: my life. And Schwartz was kind of making fun of 906 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 2: him in the backseat of like, oh, you're working PRIs. 907 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: Oh you know, it's like it's it was. I felt 908 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 2: like I was on an acid trip. I was like, 909 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 2: there is no way I'm in this car with these 910 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: three men right now. 911 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 3: Well I've joined it. I joined it. 912 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: But let my Raindoss know where the kids support subscribe. 913 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and like your podcasts, Yeah, it's called so 914 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: Bad It's good. We do shows pretty much like every day. 915 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: There's a Patreon as well, but we cover like Valley 916 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 2: in Summerhouse and I'll do huge recaps of that. 917 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 4: We do a pop culture round up. 918 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 2: I had the director of that new Sherry Peppini, uh 919 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 2: four part docu series that was insane. We just had 920 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: Philip Solomon from Dealer No Deal Island. Who's actually you 921 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 2: would love Philip Solomon. He was He was so good 922 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: on today's episode. But yeah, there's different guests every week, 923 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 2: so it's interview, pop culture and recap. So if you 924 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: ever want something, it's always there, but no pressure at 925 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: all to check it. 926 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: Out rain Drops. Check it out if you have it, 927 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: I know you have, but just check it out. 928 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 4: If you haven't. 929 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: For those who did it, subscribe to like it. It's 930 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: very diverse in terms of what he's talking about with 931 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: these shows, and he gives. As you all can tell 932 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: based on this episode. He has such passion when it 933 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: comes to these episodes, so it's always good to know 934 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: that the person you're listening to loves it just just 935 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: as much as we love listening to it. 936 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's it. I mean, it really is about love. 937 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day. 938 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: I we know that sounds so cheesy, but it's like, God, 939 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 2: I just feel so lucky to be able to talk 940 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 2: about this stuff and whatever I can do to like 941 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: keep doing this. 942 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm just thrilled. 943 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: Like I never thought I would talk to you one day, 944 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 2: Like I remember five years ago knowing who you were 945 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: and going, oh man, I'll never so like stuff like this. 946 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 2: I always feel like it's like this make a wish foundation. 947 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: So it's awesome. I just really appreciated. 948 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 3: I love that. No, this is great. This is great. 949 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: Ryan. 950 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 3: We'll love to have you back. 951 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: On and rain Drops. 952 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 3: Check out his podcast. 953 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: Please good luck with Jesse, dude, let me get let 954 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: me get my cash appen zel together. 955 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 4: Ryan, Bye, dude. 956 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Reality with the Kings. 957 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 1: New episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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